The swing at 7:20 shows how Hogan started the back swing by turning his right hip back. He said NOT to do that. There are videos of Nicklaus doing the same thing.
more than helpful thanks, the left knee is the one pivotal key that holds a good swing together i believe, in particular it should initiate the take away, by moving toward the ball at adress, that opens the right hip rotation about the pelvis, that clears the path for shoulder/arm position,then as the left knee straightens the hips can follow on what i call cruise control, hogan worked so persistently at that chain of events in his clubhead delivery ,,genius !🤫😇
Very nice analysis. I had a series of lessons at Golftech that had me imagine a big ball between my legs keeping my lower body quiet during the swing and not allow my left knee to tip in or bow out, but to be steady. Seemed easier to be accurate but you have to admit, the full-body commitment to the swing that Hogan commits looks very satisfying and worth trying. We can always go back to quieting the lower body but think the superior swing requires the type of movements Hogan did and shows. Can everyone do this? Who knows. But again, worth a try. Sequence, timing, and taking it easy I think are also important regardless of whether any of us put it together in the same way Hogan did. Hand-eye coordination is not as important as feel that can lead to confidence. You can't correct the position of the golf-head during the swing. Hogan pointed this out as well; it just happens to fast to allow this to be effective.
I dont think it matters straight or bent at impact. Thats an individuals timing issue squaring the club. How much one turns. What I think most important, most dont do, is tilt the left knee back behind ball then throw it forward of the ball to start the down swing. The left knee is the last motion in the backswing & 1st motion of the downswing. TADA Most start by throwing their chest, arms & hands out at the ball, instead of letting the arms fall down "along for the ride" from throwing the left knee out in front of the ball to lead the swing. Not getting the left knee out in front of the ball doesnt allow the hips to be open at impact. The back of the left hand ends up either cutting across the ball or flipped to square up. Dont steer the hands, steer the knees & hips. pls RT
It appears to me it looks like a stack/tilt move going back with that left hip slanted. The knees would have to be flexed through 3/4 of the swing and he then gets taller in posture on the finish with his leg less flexed or straight after the shot... Thanks for this video, your thoughts. Paul
At impact, the left knee should be past the ball.....AND BENT. If the left knee straightens before impact, The chest and shoulders go backwards… A big no-no.
the whole hogan thing is great and admirable, but like tiger, he just has too much going on to be able to try and mimic it, I think. I'd rather the simplicity of the sam snead swing. I'm trying to quiten my over active left knee, and watching hogan... I just think his knees look wild and out of control. All fine, if you have super hand eye, but I do not. 20hcpr
Your model is only as good as the person digitizing it. I could easily out digitize your model and probably get the knees a little more accurately. Did you use any mathematical smoothing routines, looked really bumpy.
Feel free to contact Gregg McHatton on this one, His team at Silicon Graphics did the modeling back in the 90's and it's the only model of his swing available anywhere.
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The swing at 7:20 shows how Hogan started the back swing by turning his right hip back. He said NOT to do that. There are videos of Nicklaus doing the same thing.
more than helpful thanks, the left knee is the one pivotal key
that holds a good swing together i believe, in particular it
should initiate the take away, by moving toward the ball at
adress, that opens the right hip rotation about the pelvis,
that clears the path for shoulder/arm position,then as the
left knee straightens the hips can follow on what i call
cruise control, hogan worked so persistently at that
chain of events in his clubhead delivery ,,genius !🤫😇
I let my arms pull my left knee to my right knee on the back swing. I then initiate my d/s with my left knee widening the gap between my knees.
Very nice analysis. I had a series of lessons at Golftech that had me imagine a big ball between my legs keeping my lower body quiet during the swing and not allow my left knee to tip in or bow out, but to be steady. Seemed easier to be accurate but you have to admit, the full-body commitment to the swing that Hogan commits looks very satisfying and worth trying. We can always go back to quieting the lower body but think the superior swing requires the type of movements Hogan did and shows. Can everyone do this? Who knows. But again, worth a try. Sequence, timing, and taking it easy I think are also important regardless of whether any of us put it together in the same way Hogan did. Hand-eye coordination is not as important as feel that can lead to confidence. You can't correct the position of the golf-head during the swing. Hogan pointed this out as well; it just happens to fast to allow this to be effective.
Check out Hogan's lateral side bend as he hits the ball.
I dont think it matters straight or bent at impact. Thats an individuals timing issue squaring the club. How much one turns.
What I think most important, most dont do, is tilt the left knee back behind ball then throw it forward of the ball to start the down swing. The left knee is the last motion in the backswing & 1st motion of the downswing. TADA
Most start by throwing their chest, arms & hands out at the ball, instead of letting the arms fall down "along for the ride" from throwing the left knee out in front of the ball to lead the swing. Not getting the left knee out in front of the ball doesnt allow the hips to be open at impact. The back of the left hand ends up either cutting across the ball or flipped to square up. Dont steer the hands, steer the knees & hips.
pls RT
very nice and detailed analysis.
It appears to me it looks like a stack/tilt move going back with that left hip slanted. The knees would have to be flexed through 3/4 of the swing and he then gets taller in posture on the finish with his leg less flexed or straight after the shot... Thanks for this video, your thoughts. Paul
Greatest swing ever
I wonder if this is why I keep losing my tush line. I try too hard to lock the knee and don't try hard enough to rotate the knee around my foot?
Very good, thanks
Our pleasure!
What we see here is consistent with his book.
Pg92 - left leg begins to break back and the left knee turns a little to the target.
thought that "turning left knee toward the target" is a great tip that i had never heard before reading the book; thanks for reminding me of it. ♡
Why in the model does it look like his left hip is over his left footi at address. was this after he bumped his hips forward or just a camera angle
You need to look at driver. Not short iron. More energy.
Left knee really bent in Byron Nelson's swing.
At impact, the left knee should be past the ball.....AND BENT. If the left knee straightens before impact, The chest and shoulders go backwards… A big no-no.
the whole hogan thing is great and admirable, but like tiger, he just has too much going on to be able to try and mimic it, I think.
I'd rather the simplicity of the sam snead swing. I'm trying to quiten my over active left knee, and watching hogan... I just think his knees look wild and out of control. All fine, if you have super hand eye, but I do not. 20hcpr
Snead is leggier methinks
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Your model is only as good as the person digitizing it. I could easily out digitize your model and probably get the knees a little more accurately. Did you use any mathematical smoothing routines, looked really bumpy.
Feel free to contact Gregg McHatton on this one, His team at Silicon Graphics did the modeling back in the 90's and it's the only model of his swing available anywhere.