Awesome video. Thank you for being so informative and I too don't mind the longer videos. I have watched quite a few videos on the EDP Ultra and the Smart Panel 2. Yours is the best one yet. Thanks for going into so much detail. I can't wait the second one to come out.
This electrification technology is super exciting. A properly sized solar system/battery system to electric usage is key to the many drawbacks voiced in the comments. We have solar panels on our house just grid tied with net metering and I would never go back to just the grid. I will be putting batteries in as soon as I can afford them. The peace of mind without having to fully rely on the grid is something I'm greatly looking forward to. I'll probably pull the trigger when a 200 amp Eco Flow smartswitch panel comes out. I'm a huge fan of energy democracy and not the age old energy monopoly that we are coming out from under. Yes it is more expensive but I don't care. True freedom is more expensive no matter what area you talk about in life.
Great video, Rick! Love how you break things down and keep it real. Super helpful for those of us who aren't tech experts. Keep up the awesome work! 👍⚡
Super high quality video, def gonna need to watch this entire thing across some time. I love my my natural gas genny but this is crazy to see this type of solution actually hitting the market! Glad you got to work with ECO Flow. Keep up the work rick, quality over quantity. You're doing a great job.
The picture was not as sharp as it should have been. I wasn’t happy with that. It’s probably because of the horrible lighting in the basement even though I was using extra lights, but I am using a different app on my phone so hopefully the next one’s gonna be better. But I really appreciate the support man. Thank you.!
Finally got to watch the whole thing, what a awesome set up. The apps make it seem to easy to use and watch whats going on. The fact you can do it when you arent even home is a gamechanger compared to my setup. I see what youre saying about the lighting but overall what a great video.
EcoFlow decided to have me talk more about the Delta pro 3, so I didn’t get a chance to do that video. Basically depending on the age of the generator you have more maintenance and likely more problems. But we don’t know how many years these power stations will last past the 5yr warranty.
Point of interest; I installed a soft start on my well circuit to reduce the 240 start up from 40 amps to 17 amps. It runs at 6.5 amps. Just make sure to watch watch your pressure gage to make sure you keep the starting voltage high enough to show the pressure increases immediately when starting. You don't want to burn the motor out.
I have 2 of these DPUs with 3 batteries each totaling 36kWh. I'm running them with 50amp Hub into inlet with interlock on main amd manually managingbload. I love having the option of using these at night and then gennie during the day. I have had a cpl of weather related outtages and we've had no issues at all. Love these monsters. What screws me is the location of our service panel. Our basement is originally finished, and they stuck our service panel in the corner of our laundry room. Of all places, it sits above and to the left of our dryer. Anytime you open the panel, you are looking at it in a weird angle. Eventually, I may get it relocated out of the laundry room to another area and make it a more direct purpose utility room so I can get the SHP2 installed and take full advantage of these capabilities.
That would make it more difficult. I wish they gave an option for a whole house transfer switch versus the independent circuits like they did. Oh well, then you could’ve mounted it outside at the meter base and been done with it.
Great setup. If i could give you som constructive feedback it would be to move your smoke alarms to a circuit with something else on it (like a lighting circuit). By doing it this way, you have a quick way to verify that your smoke detectors have power going to them.
They are battery operated with 120 V going to them and they’re inner linked. Plus I have a security system that has smoke detectors as well. That was the only reason why they were on their own circuit was because they’re linked with 14 three wire.
@@TerryFrenchy EcoFlow decided to have me do review the delta pro 3 vs the ultra but I have had a few people ask about part 2. What would you like to see in a part two?
EcoFlow changed format on me and had me go jump right into the Delta pro three. They said the Ultra had been out for a while and they weren’t as interested in it.
They told me they would like it released in July. I can confirm it’s capable of doing everything you’re wanting it to do. I’ve been really impressed with it.
It seems like you’re like me, like the old stuff built better and last longer. Mechanical technology, will always last longer than electrical technology. You don’t conform to that energy efficient crap that everyone pushes down your throat. How energy efficient is it if we are replacing it more often. Planed obsolescence. So if you’re saying you like this new system and it’s well made, I have to take note, I don’t think you would say you like something just because you’re endorsed by a product. Well done. Love your videos.
I got the product for free, but they aren’t paying me and in our letter of agreement. I had the right to give my fair honest opinion and if they didn’t like what I said, then they could choose not to have the video posted. I’ve done reviews for All Powers and Oupes and EcoFlow has been the best built and the most friendly I’ve seen. You can feel the quality. It’s a lot of money but if you want simple, turn key without calculation that this might be the one.
Great info! I do have a question. I am setting up a job site tool trailer. I want small 110 electric heat. Basic power/ charging batteries and lights everywhere. What in your opinion is the best way to wire it? I'm leaning toward small panel/transfer switch that I can plut into house. Primarily ecoflo type system. Only need 110v
The trifecta is solar, battery and tri-fuel inverter/generator then you can go off grid. I have a battery that will run the house for 24 hours - 9 months of the year. In summer the central air taxes the system but I can continue by using one of my inverter generators late in the evening to top off the batteries before bed.
I dont know if you have added solar yet, which i intend to do, but i like the rest of how you set up your system. I am not electrically savvy and would have to get an electrician to wire smart panel anyway. Do you have a wiring diagram showing your setup that you would be willing to share?
I pretty much followed what’s in your instruction booklet? There’s really not much to explain. I ran a number two wire on a 100 amp breaker over to the transfer panel and then use 12 gauge for all my 20 amp circuits,
It’s running my 2.5 ton AC. I mention the locked rotor amp rating to look at in your AC to see if it will work. Soft start or hard start would definitely help
Thanks for the reply, I saw a TH-cam short that says these units put out “dirty electricity” something about Radio Frequency Interference? Here’s the link th-cam.com/users/shortsCAdkLQyaDDI?si=8NJTRquffBuRdsAL Way over my head, do you know anything about that stuff?
Great video unbelievably comprehensive but I followed most of it just going to have to go back through and write a few things down. What is the link for the next video which covers your installation? I could not find it on a quick search of your Channel?
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your feedback. Check my links to verify against Costco. They’re giving away two solar panels on one of the offers that I have listed and the prices are constantly changing on their site so keep that in mind.
That’s because EcoFlow said they weren’t as interested in me doing the part two dedicated to only the ultra. So I compared the ultra to the Delta pro three. th-cam.com/video/-yeyNBo_ALQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=3toDoZsRLCJ5oM1P
Thanks for good details in the video. Seeking a solar plus battery backup solution for a home already powered by a AC-tied solar rooftop under a NET metering setup. For such a home with solar rooftop that is AC-tied (due to existing solar microinverters under each PV panel) : 1. Will the Delta Pro Ultra battery and inverter unit (portable system) be capable of operating while off grid to supply small house loads, and also charge from excess solar electricity produced by the AC-tied solar rooftop array while the home is off grid? 2. Can both charging and discharging of the battery be done with a bidirectional port off the battery unit? 3. If go with an interlock switch in the main panel and plug the battery in a generator outlet , can the battery be charged by the solar rooftop without install of the Smart Home Panel 2 nor reconfiguring the AC tied solar system?
I'm planning to get one of these DPUs with a couple of batteries but no the smart panel. I am just planning to use my generator cutover plugin straight into the breaker panel like you did on the second half of this video. Then I am going to use my remote start generator to charge the GPU batteries via the side connector at 240V. I've read that the DPU can now do a charge through that side plug while simultaneously supplying power to the house at 240V. Have you tried this? I read that it may take a firmware update to do it.
You can charge through the power plug that I used for the smart panel. It takes an adapter to adapt from that plug that’s on the power station and adapt it to a L 14 plug.
Thanks Rick. Great Video! I apologize for a silly question but I have not been able to figure this out. Utilizing the Smart Home 2 Panel, assuming grid goes down and batteries kick in, when the grid power returns, will the batteries recharge as you had it connected or do you have to run a separate dedicated circuit/wire to recharge the batteries? I am hopeful the answer is the former rather than the latter. Thanks!
The same power wire that feeds the transfer switch from the ultra also charges the ultra. That’s why I recommended the smart panel. It makes it brain dead simple
crazy discovery today with the 50A hub... was updating the wifi firmware and I noticed I had output on the standard AC outlets and also had 240v output on the hub. (in the past, connecting the 50A hub disabled the outlets on the inverter)
Awesome video. About to purchase the Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra inverter, 5 batteries and the smart panel 2. I would like to have my home 3 ton ac unit (30 amp) to the smart panel. My concern is the fan on the air handler gets it power from the heating breaker (60 amp). I do not plan to ever power the heating system using batteries (we don't get that cold here often). But how do I power the blower so the ac works properly? I will not install the panel myself but would want some knowledge when getting quotes from licensed electricians. Thanks for any advice.
@@jstcs61 like I mentioned in the video, you can add three of these together to triple the output. And you’ll need to add several batteries to be able to power that water heater. So if money is no object, absolutely you can do it.
With the current price of solar panels in Europe I would just hook a few of them up to this thing and grab some free kWh :D You can get 440W Panel from Trina (Tier A manufacturer ) for 76€ or $82,50 including tax here in Germany. That's in quantity of one, will get cheaper if you buy a full pallet. Hope the prices are not too bad in the US :D The modern 144 cell ones work decently even when not perfectly installed and slightly shaded.
I know I’ve been looking on Facebook marketplace and finding them fairly reasonable. It might be better for me to get solar panels instead of extra batteries.
@@HVACRSurvival If you're interested in getting some solar panels, I have accounts with Krannich, and Soligent, both are distributors for SolarEdge etc, I've installed a few large grid tied systems for a few customers, one guy has 4 inverters, 105 solar panels, plus a 48 kw Generac at his house :D
Great video. Wondering your thoughts on a system like the power station vs a custom PV, charger, inverter, battery bank as primary power source for cottage (pro, cons). Gas generator would be used for backup or low sun days.
All your critical circuits are on the SHP2, which is a point of failure. Can the SHP2 bypass it's electronics if it fails (or has issues) to keep power on to the backed up circuits?
If you did have solar, say going to your Main panel, which then goes out to the grid. how would you hook the solar to the Ecoflow? Another switch with over connectors from the breaker panel?
If you have solar going straight to the main panel, then you must have a converter in between that because you can't just took DC voltage straight to AC and back feed it into the service entrance. You would need the DC voltage straight from the solar panel and plug it directly into the power station as long as the open voltage and amps is within the range of the power station.
I’ve tested several different brands and they are by far one of the leaders of the pack. None of them are perfect, but they appear to be one of the better built ones I’ve seen and tested.
Still at a loss for AC coupling. Trying to understand how this battery inverter system charges without a generator and without PV DC inputs. Does it charge using AC coupling though its output circuit? To clarify, my customer has a 7.6KW Enphase system feeding their main panel. During GRID TIE normal operation will this unit pull power through its output circuit to charge and back fed at night when the customer wants to offset their "utility time of use" rate in grid tie mode or is it strictly necessary to have a DC Solar input to charge and only operate as back up.
You must not have caught in the beginning that I told you it has 2 solar inputs, high and low voltage both and the wattage and voltage that it can charge at. You can charge it with 120 V or 240 V AC power through a plug that I showed in the video or through the smart panel that I showed in the video. I watched statistics on how long people watch and generally no one really watches the whole video even though I spend hours and hours making it. And just from what you're telling me, it sounds like you didn't watch it.
Hi Rick, I'm very interested in this setup but my issue is my Main breaker panel is outside my house along my garage wall. Would installers be able to mount the smart panel outside but leave the lower half(Where the delta pro ultra connects to smart panel) inside the garage along the same wall and just connect it to the smart panel through the wall? I know you mention this at 11:18 but want to ensure I'm having the right idea here.
Yes, absolutely 👍. They need to run wire from the transfer panel to the plug-in device that actually goes inside where it’s safe to mount it. The actual breaker panel section is Nema three rated, which means outdoor rated and has a spot for a lock.
Thx for the great video! I'm getting ready to have a whole-home ECF setup installed. 3xDPUs, 2SP2s, total of 5 batteries. Like you, we have a heavy load here. Q: Does the power cable you show (7.1'?) connecting the Sp2 to inverter come with the panels...or need to order separately? Is there a cable with the inverters capable of connecting to the Sp2? Cant tell from their website.. Thx again for all the good info!
Great video, though I do have one question: is there a pair of current sensors which have to be clamped onto the main panel input? I ask because I saw that the grid power was shown as roughly 2kW; however, it looks as though you have only a single conduit (1") running from the main panel. I guess it's time to find the manual. (I am in the early stages of research of which product line to purchase.)
The smart panel two has a full-blown circuitboard system underneath the breakers, it measures each individuals circuit and gives you a total total or individual reading, depending on where you’re looking at.
Thank you for the informative video. Will watch your other videos. If I have two electrical panels - that are on different floors - do I have to get two EcoFlow systems with two EcoFow panels? Also, since the EcoFlow panel does not have as many spaces for circuits as a regular electrical panel, do you combine circuits? In other words, can a Ecoflow panel circuit handle more than one circuit from the house electrical panel? Thanks.
You can use tandem breakers to add extra circus, but you need an electrician to look at your system and advise you of your options. I can’t do that without seeing it and knowing what your local code calls for.
My house was built with two separate 200amp panels, and each is only around half full of circuits. Total overkill, but what's the best way to create a back-up system? Do i have to have a gen-disconnect for each panel? Or would a separate panel like ecosmart panel be able to disect the circuits from both panels. Scratching my head here on best way to set up a battery backup like yours. Ugh
Great vid. I’d really like to hear your opinion on this vs a generac for “grid-down” situations. Is this a better option even without solar panels? It’s also my understanding that the Inflation Reduction Act will cover this too. If so, does that make this a better value than a generac?
I have heard there’s a 30% tax credit available. One of the things to consider is when your gas generators is running and you don’t have any loads on it, you’re still burning gas….so if you don’t have solar, you could always charge it with the generator in anywhere from one to a couple hours, and then shut the gas generator off for several hours compared to the gas generator running nonstop
Sir I have a smart home panel 2 and the DPU with 3 batteries. How can I connect the inverter generator to the until and still charge it? Do I need a generator transfer switch? Or can it be done without it? While still powering the home.
Great review. Question on generator, do you plan to connect a generator directly to the DPU or through your existing generator connector? I will have a similar setup - no solar.
That's the plan! I was hoping to run my 120v 2200watt continuous generator for when it’s not loaded down, but I’ll probably run my 8000 W 230 V generator just because I can power this thing up in about an hour and a half to two hours.
@@HVACRSurvival You already have your generator on the main panel. Just curious if you were going to move it to the SHP2. Do you know if any generator will work on the DPU/SHP2 or would I need an inverter generator? I'll probably do a dual fuel one.
Really hot is not an exact number so I would need to know what the exact number is to compare it to what the Factory has stated on their manual. I believe it’s 113° but that’s out of memory.
EcoFlow decided that since the ultra has been out for a while and the Delta pro 3 had just been released that it would be better for me to compare the two against each other. I showed basics of inside the panel and you can see how I wired it up.
Thanks you the review, but hear me out. My gas generator plus circuit cost me 1100 dolars with a max output of 7.5k and it runs for 8 hours with a full tank of gas. This setup cost aroung 8k. Moneywise make not sense to me but you gave an idea in case i change my mind
The factory told me to focus on the delta pro 3 when they released it so I didn’t do it. It also might have been because they want you to use an electrician because of how many people screw up the equipment by wiring it wrong then want them to warranty it.
Hi Rick, great Video! As the Smart home panel 2 can handle only 12 breakers could I add another shp2 to my system and have my whole house backed up by Ecoflow?
Question so I’m looking to throw this into a camper trailer and convert the trailer to solar but my question is could I charge the unit with shore power from a campsite when I do decide to use a campground?? Can I just plug the shore power into the generator plug and would I need to u plug the solar to the unit while charging it off shore power
Yes, it’s got seven different ways that you can charge it. Plug it into the wall, plug it into a transfer switch, plug it into a generator plug it into another power station plug it into solar you can do all at the same time you can plug it into a car You name it.
Can you rephrase that a little differently? I’m not 100% sure I’m following you. I’m assuming you’re using a manual transfer switch? What method are you using to charge it? Are you using the standard 120 V 15 amp plug or are you doing it through the Plug on the back of it and which plug are you using to power things with?
If you had an AC coupled solar system, how would that work with regards to charging with solar via the AC back feed to grid? What happens during an outage when the AC coupled panels shut off? Is there a way to hook it up so that the solar can still be used during an outage but still on battery backup? (AC coupled panels)
This does not have an option for Back feeding to the grid. The thought process behind this system is charging your batteries and powering your home with your solar panels during the daylight hours and living off the batteries in the evening. All that would be dependent on the size of your solar panels and your battery capacity. EcoFlow also offers a gas generator that charges the battery DC to DC and communicates with the system and charges when it needs to automatically.
With the tandem breakers you used, can you power the entire house when using the EDP Ultra through the EcoFlow Smart Home Panel 2? With only 12 circuits on the Smart Home Panel 2, seems like you wouldn't be able to power the entire house but I am not familiar with breakers. Thanks!
EcoFlow chose to have me do the DP three review and compare it with the DPU instead of having me do the other. Let me ask you, what part of part two was you more interested in? (Comparison between Generac and the power station, the installation of the Smart home panel or further testing?) which is most important to you?
@@HVACRSurvival I was interested in a couple of aspects. We were looking at a Generac, and were 1 email away from pulling the trigger, but the company that was going to install it got a little funny about a couple of the line items on the quote, so we hit pause. That's when I started looking at alternatives, and the EcoFlow DPUs caught my eye. I like the idea of the Smart Panel 2 for automatically switching over in case of an outage, but it only has space for a limited number of circuits. Still, I was interested in how you chose and moved circuits over to the Smart Panel from your main. It looked like you have all of the lines running from the main to the Smart Panel through that single large conduit. I also like how I can scale up the DPUs over time. At this point, I'm leaning toward getting a pair of DPUs with a single battery each, connecting them to the 50A hub, then plugging the hub into a 50A inlet with an interlock/breaker in the main panel. This would allow me to feed the whole main panel from the DPUs, though I realize I would need to self-limit what we use when it's active. I could then see what the load looks like and add more batteries if needed.
Hello, not sure if you can answer this, but I already currently have 10 panels on my roof which generates about 4 kW of solar power anyway, I can tie this into the ultra? Or would I need to get separate panels to tie it into the ultra?
You need to add up your voltage and wattage and put it in the correct input. The ultra has some of the highest ratings out there. I would not see why you couldn’t do it. As long as you know how to wire them up.
@HVACRsurvival Is there a max THD on the Smart Home Panel 2? You mentioned 10% on the Ultra but if the Ultra is disconnected and I’m running solely off of a propane generator with a THD of 20%, would that be an issue?
Most decent generators are only 5% or less. Why would you have a generate that it puts out 20%? Have you actually checked it with a meter to see if that is what it is?
@@HVACRSurvival , unfortunately when I bought a generator a few years ago, I wasn’t concerned about it and ended up getting one that says in the manual it could be up to 20%. I installed a 50 amp outlet and have been running my home with it when the power goes out. Eventually I’ll upgrade to a better generator but it’s what I’ve got for now. If the THD will be an issue for the Smart Panel then I’ll just have to replace the generator first since we tend to lose grid power pretty often and occasionally for several days at a time.
How many batteries would I need for three day with normal appliances. Fridge, lights tv etc.. I don't want to spend for 5 batteries because it's expensive
Best thing to do is either buy a meter that keeps track of how ow many watts your using or look at your power bill and see how many kilowatts you’re using per day. Everyone’s gonna be different. Also depends if you have a lot of heavy electrical appliances like electric range, electric water heater, electric dryer, all those things are gonna change the numbers. There’s nothing cheap about any of these systems.
Can I use my CyberTruck bed outlets to rechard the DPU? The outlets of the Cybertruck are two 120V outlets (up to 20A) in the cabin plus two 120V outlets (up to 20A) and one 240V outlet (up to 40A) in the cargo bed. All outlets together can supply up to 9.6kW.
I know this can be charged with the adapter at the charging station. I don’t know what your plugs look like? if they’re just regular outlet looking plugs then you could always plug it in there, but you’ll get the most power transfer by using the power plug I used the video
If we are planning to have this unit in case of a multi day power loss like a hurricane and want it to run our home HVAC along with essentials (fridges, deep freeze, micro, cpap, pool equip), do we add up the amount of wattage each of these appliances use and buy enough DPU batteries to cover the wattage?
If you’re wanting to live life like you’re not on a reserve power with a battery system plan on spending allot of money on extra batteries and extra inverters. You’re definitely going to need solar cells or a gas generator to recharge it if you’re planning for a hurricane where the power can be out for several days if not longer. Pool equipment is not an necessity when you have no power, that eats up a lot of power. The easiest thing to do is look at your power bill and see how many kilowatts a day you use on average, that will tell you what you need to know and just add up how many days you want power for.
I purchased this exact setup with 2 batteries and the ecoflow smart panel 2. I have a solar panel array in my backyard. I know there is a way to wire it so when the grid is down it will charge the ecoflow batteries instead. I've contacted multiple electricians in the area and they say they would have to run a DC line from the solar panel inverter to the house. I already have lines ran from the solar panel inverter to my breaker box inside the house. Can't you use the lines that are already ran to the house already?
I’m not sure what you mean by a solar panel inverter? Generally, you take the voltage from the panels that are outside and run them directly to your EcoFlow power station. The power station has two solar inputs, one is for high voltage and one is for lower voltage. You need to measure and see what your total voltage is and make sure that your wattage is not over the rating plate for the input you’re using. You plug this strait into the EcoFlow. This is a pretty simple thing to do, you just gotta make sure you have the right size gauge wiring to handle the voltage and wattage that’s coming from the panels so that you don’t have a large voltage drop.
@@HVACRSurvival When the solar input is low will a generac generator automatically start charging an ecoflow ultra after it drops below say 35% charge?
Seems like the direct 50amp hookup in your house to your main panel is enough to control all of your house circuits without needing to buy or install the smart panel 2. What benefit does smart panel2 provide to outweigh the cost of purchasing installing and rewiring a dozen circuits if all the remaining main panel circuits would be useless when off grid power?
If the power fails while I’m not home there’s no way for it to switch it over if I was doing it the old way. It’s peace of mind not needing to rush home to switch it over. It’s an easy install. 3 hrs tops.
@@HVACRSurvival ahhh so the smart panel 2 is great for remote access! Thanks.for your video and reply! Is there any way to simply utilize your internal house direct connect 50amp (or any high amperage connection) that allows for some advanced Ecoflow Delta model(s) to intelligently act in “UPS” mode so no manual intervention would be required?
I’m interested in this product for whole house backup. I’m hoping to build a setup for a 3-4 day back up. I don’t know the math to calculate what I would need. Could you help me decipher how to do this using your language of watts amps etc? Thank you
If you have a digital electric meter, your power company should be able to tell you exactly how much power you’re pulling per day, I can see how much power I’m pulling per hour. It’s kind of scary how much information they have. Otherwise the next step would be to buy a power meter like I showed in the video. They’re only $15-$20. Your biggest energy hog is going to be your air conditioner. Here’s a link amzn.to/40ejIxA
This is super easy if your electric company has installed a smart meter on your house. They will probably have a 1 hour or 15 minute breakdown of your power usage for several years. You can see charts of your daily usage also. Between these 2 you can figure out your average usage for any period of time and your peak usage (almost). I say almost because 15 minutes or an hour breakdown isn't the peak usage. It's still an average but for a short time period. For an actual peak you would have to take a look at the inrush currents that your appliances use, especially HVAC, 240V water pumps etc. Since you want to use it as a whole house backup for 4 days you simply find the day of the year you used the most KwH and then size the batteries to supply that without running below say 20% so divide the KwH by 0.8 and you get how much battery you need. To be safe you might find the day you used the most and multiply that by 4. More than likely it's either going to be on the hottest or the coldest day of the year depending if your electric bills are higher in winter or summer. Now that you know how much battery you need you now need to figure out your current requirements. You probably have a 200 amp main breaker so you could just get 24KW (200A * 120V = 24KW) from your system now but that would be overkill IMO. I don't know what experts would say but I would probably double my max 15 minute average usage and use this along with the inrush to come to a good number for current.
I have a DPU and a Manual Transfer switch. Can I leave the MTS with my circuits left on "GEN" and have the DPU plugged in to my regular 200 amp panel without issue? Looking to run the DPU as a whole home UPS. So When the power goes out the DPU batteries kick in without me having to be around to flip switches should the power go out. Or does this cause a looping issue?
The 30 amp plug has UPS built into it but that’s only 120 V. I think you’re gonna have a hard time doing what you’re explaining because of the amount of amperage looping through the machine. I don’t think you’re gonna be able to recoup fast enough. The safest bet is to get the automatic transfer switch.
Thank you for the video! I live in Texas and am trying to determine who to get in touch with at their company in regard to the consultation you mentioned for TX and CA residents. Do you know if there is a specific number or Email I need to contact?
@@HVACRSurvival Thank you! Would that be the link where you need to have already purchased the package in order to qualify for the free consultation/install?
QUESTION My ecoflow ultra was half delivered today. Expecting the other half shortly. My electrical panel is outside. I plan on using a generator outlet and an interlock. Can that generator outlet be placed inside the house even though the panel is outside? Using SS2-50P/L1430/L1430P to SS2-50R
Yes, if I’m understanding you correctly, you’re gonna have the interlock switch outside at your breaker panel and you want to mount the inlet box on the inside of the house like I did at my panel in the video? Of course, that means you have to run your generator cable into the house to reach the inlet box? Normally, the inlet box is mounted outside so that it’s convenient to hook up the generator outside and not have to run the wires into the house.
This is a wonderful review but I have so many questions. I have a Whole House Generac 22KW. I want the Ecoflow Smart Panel 2 and a EcoFlow DELTA Pro 3 Portable Power Station DELTA Pro 3 + DELTA Pro 3 Extra Battery because I want to turn off the Generac at around 10 pm at night (Very Noisy and neighbors really near) and run only a few circuits including 4 Ton AC u unit. My idea is to run this until sunrise. I need help in configuration but it will be installed by a licensed Electrician. How can I contact you?
@thompsonp86 i’m not available to do sizing or give advice. Your application could vary compared to mine. A 4 ton AC unit is bigger than what I’ve got and it’s larger than what they rated it for, you’re better off with the delta pro ultra over the DP3 because of the size of your AC. You likely will need to have an HVAC contractor come out and see see what the inrush of your AC is to see if the DP 3 could handle it. The contractor could always add a soft start or hard start to the AC to with the starting amps. A Electrician should be able to calculate what your normal running load is to see if one battery is going to be enough. That’s about as much advice as I can give you without seeing it and testing it.
This is the best review on the EF Delta 3 and Smart Panel. Well done.
Thank you Mr Happy! 🤜🤛👍👍
Awesome video. Thank you for being so informative and I too don't mind the longer videos. I have watched quite a few videos on the EDP Ultra and the Smart Panel 2. Yours is the best one yet. Thanks for going into so much detail. I can't wait the second one to come out.
Awesome! Thank you!
This electrification technology is super exciting. A properly sized solar system/battery system to electric usage is key to the many drawbacks voiced in the comments. We have solar panels on our house just grid tied with net metering and I would never go back to just the grid. I will be putting batteries in as soon as I can afford them. The peace of mind without having to fully rely on the grid is something I'm greatly looking forward to. I'll probably pull the trigger when a 200 amp Eco Flow smartswitch panel comes out. I'm a huge fan of energy democracy and not the age old energy monopoly that we are coming out from under. Yes it is more expensive but I don't care. True freedom is more expensive no matter what area you talk about in life.
I agree fully 🤜🤛🙏
As many before have commented, this was an excellent, excellent review.
Much appreciated!
This was a great video! Very informative and it was awesome how you showed both the smart panel use as well as using the interlock.
Glad you enjoyed it! I really appreciate your feedback!
This is exactly the set up I have been hoping to install....thank you.
Great video, Rick! Love how you break things down and keep it real. Super helpful for those of us who aren't tech experts. Keep up the awesome work! 👍⚡
I appreciate that!
Your like an old school version of Motorweek on PBS...time for you to get on a cable TV network.
You know I sometimes do feel like that guy lol they got that delay. Pause at the end lol
Who needs cable. TH-cam is a bigger audience potential then cable 👍
Super high quality video, def gonna need to watch this entire thing across some time. I love my my natural gas genny but this is crazy to see this type of solution actually hitting the market!
Glad you got to work with ECO Flow. Keep up the work rick, quality over quantity. You're doing a great job.
The picture was not as sharp as it should have been. I wasn’t happy with that. It’s probably because of the horrible lighting in the basement even though I was using extra lights, but I am using a different app on my phone so hopefully the next one’s gonna be better. But I really appreciate the support man. Thank you.!
Great video. Where is part two? 🤗
EcoFlow chose to have me do something else. If there’s anything in particular, you wanna know just email me.
wow, that’s a nice back up system Nice review video.
I appreciate that. This thing took so much time and I’m still not done. I’ve got to do another whole video +2 integrated videos.
Finally got to watch the whole thing, what a awesome set up. The apps make it seem to easy to use and watch whats going on. The fact you can do it when you arent even home is a gamechanger compared to my setup. I see what youre saying about the lighting but overall what a great video.
Thank you for the feedback! It is a pretty amazing system.
You never made part 2, I’d be interested in seeing it, if you already took the footage, thanks
Exceptionally well done! This video is what I've been looking for, thank you! I'm looking forward to your Generac comparison video. New subscriber.
EcoFlow decided to have me talk more about the Delta pro 3, so I didn’t get a chance to do that video. Basically depending on the age of the generator you have more maintenance and likely more problems. But we don’t know how many years these power stations will last past the 5yr warranty.
Point of interest; I installed a soft start on my well circuit to reduce the 240 start up from 40 amps to 17 amps. It runs at 6.5 amps. Just make sure to watch watch your pressure gage to make sure you keep the starting voltage high enough to show the pressure increases immediately when starting. You don't want to burn the motor out.
I have 2 of these DPUs with 3 batteries each totaling 36kWh. I'm running them with 50amp Hub into inlet with interlock on main amd manually managingbload. I love having the option of using these at night and then gennie during the day. I have had a cpl of weather related outtages and we've had no issues at all. Love these monsters. What screws me is the location of our service panel. Our basement is originally finished, and they stuck our service panel in the corner of our laundry room. Of all places, it sits above and to the left of our dryer. Anytime you open the panel, you are looking at it in a weird angle. Eventually, I may get it relocated out of the laundry room to another area and make it a more direct purpose utility room so I can get the SHP2 installed and take full advantage of these capabilities.
That would make it more difficult. I wish they gave an option for a whole house transfer switch versus the independent circuits like they did. Oh well, then you could’ve mounted it outside at the meter base and been done with it.
Excellent video. You answered my questions regarding the DFG, and SHP2. Looking forward to future videos. Thank you.
Great! I’m releasing the follow up video on prime day but it will also have the DP3 vs the DPU to show the differences.
Do a review of the Zendure Superbase V.
Ok, will see. I want to see you try to get a replacement voltage control board for that system 8 years from now.
8 years, boy are you trusting.
Glad that your video found me. Can the smart panel 2 be used only or do I need a breaker panel as well? Building a small home that will be offgrid.
If you only need the amount of circuits that it offers, then you could use it as your main breaker panel. It has a main breaker at the top.
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Thank you for the response. It will work great since our home is only 676. Solar powered home.
very cool, enjoyed your video
Thanks for watching! I’m glad you liked it.
Great setup. If i could give you som constructive feedback it would be to move your smoke alarms to a circuit with something else on it (like a lighting circuit). By doing it this way, you have a quick way to verify that your smoke detectors have power going to them.
They are battery operated with 120 V going to them and they’re inner linked. Plus I have a security system that has smoke detectors as well. That was the only reason why they were on their own circuit was because they’re linked with 14 three wire.
Have you published part 2? I cannot find it on your channel. Thanks!
@@TerryFrenchy EcoFlow decided to have me do review the delta pro 3 vs the ultra but I have had a few people ask about part 2. What would you like to see in a part two?
Awesome! I have three DPUs and a total of 5 batteries, and Home Panel 2. Is the second video available yet? Thanks so much!
EcoFlow changed format on me and had me go jump right into the Delta pro three. They said the Ultra had been out for a while and they weren’t as interested in it.
Hi from Texas! When do you think Part 2 will be coming out? Thank you so much for what you do to help us all of and when a crisis occurs.
They told me they would like it released in July. I can confirm it’s capable of doing everything you’re wanting it to do. I’ve been really impressed with it.
It seems like you’re like me, like the old stuff built better and last longer. Mechanical technology, will always last longer than electrical technology. You don’t conform to that energy efficient crap that everyone pushes down your throat. How energy efficient is it if we are replacing it more often. Planed obsolescence. So if you’re saying you like this new system and it’s well made, I have to take note, I don’t think you would say you like something just because you’re endorsed by a product. Well done. Love your videos.
I got the product for free, but they aren’t paying me and in our letter of agreement. I had the right to give my fair honest opinion and if they didn’t like what I said, then they could choose not to have the video posted. I’ve done reviews for All Powers and Oupes and EcoFlow has been the best built and the most friendly I’ve seen. You can feel the quality. It’s a lot of money but if you want simple, turn key without calculation that this might be the one.
Great video. Thank you for sharing. This is nice generator
Thanks for watching!
Great info! I do have a question. I am setting up a job site tool trailer. I want small 110 electric heat. Basic power/ charging batteries and lights everywhere. What in your opinion is the best way to wire it? I'm leaning toward small panel/transfer switch that I can plut into house. Primarily ecoflo type system. Only need 110v
The electric heater is going to drain the battery fast is my only concern. Far as running the lights, just wire them up like normal and power them.
The trifecta is solar, battery and tri-fuel inverter/generator then you can go off grid. I have a battery that will run the house for 24 hours - 9 months of the year. In summer the central air taxes the system but I can continue by using one of my inverter generators late in the evening to top off the batteries before bed.
Great information Rick
Thanks brother!
@@HVACRSurvival you're welcome
This was a well informed video.
I dont know if you have added solar yet, which i intend to do, but i like the rest of how you set up your system.
I am not electrically savvy and would have to get an electrician to wire smart panel anyway.
Do you have a wiring diagram showing your setup that you would be willing to share?
I pretty much followed what’s in your instruction booklet? There’s really not much to explain. I ran a number two wire on a 100 amp breaker over to the transfer panel and then use 12 gauge for all my 20 amp circuits,
WOW, WOW, WOW! BEST REVIEW EVER!
Thank you! I try to be different than the others.
Does these batteries power the home during the day regardless power outage or not?
Only if you program the smart panel to do that. I however do not do that because I don’t have enough solar.
Looking forward to part two, also wondering if this thing can power my central air if I install a soft starter.
It’s running my 2.5 ton AC. I mention the locked rotor amp rating to look at in your AC to see if it will work. Soft start or hard start would definitely help
Thanks for the reply, I saw a TH-cam short that says these units put out “dirty electricity” something about Radio Frequency Interference? Here’s the link th-cam.com/users/shortsCAdkLQyaDDI?si=8NJTRquffBuRdsAL Way over my head, do you know anything about that stuff?
Great video unbelievably comprehensive but I followed most of it just going to have to go back through and write a few things down. What is the link for the next video which covers your installation? I could not find it on a quick search of your Channel?
EcoFlow said they’d prefer I compared the Delta Pro three to the ultra and not show the installation. So I didn’t.
True engineering rick
I’m really impressed with this and the other new one I’ll be doing next month. That switch is awesome.
Thanks for the content. Looking to buy this from costco and doing research.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your feedback. Check my links to verify against Costco. They’re giving away two solar panels on one of the offers that I have listed and the prices are constantly changing on their site so keep that in mind.
Rattle on mate, all good 👍
Thanks my friend ✌️👍👍
This is the review I was looking for. It says it's part 1 of 2, but I can't seem to find part 2. Would you link that in this video for easy finding?
That’s because EcoFlow said they weren’t as interested in me doing the part two dedicated to only the ultra. So I compared the ultra to the Delta pro three. th-cam.com/video/-yeyNBo_ALQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=3toDoZsRLCJ5oM1P
Thanks for good details in the video. Seeking a solar plus battery backup solution for a home already powered by a AC-tied solar rooftop under a NET metering setup. For such a home with solar rooftop that is AC-tied (due to existing solar microinverters under each PV panel) :
1. Will the Delta Pro Ultra battery and inverter unit (portable system) be capable of operating while off grid to supply small house loads, and also charge from excess solar electricity produced by the AC-tied solar rooftop array while the home is off grid?
2. Can both charging and discharging of the battery be done with a bidirectional port off the battery unit?
3. If go with an interlock switch in the main panel and plug the battery in a generator outlet , can the battery be charged by the solar rooftop without install of the Smart Home Panel 2 nor reconfiguring the AC tied solar system?
Yes, yes, yes 👍
Awesome video!
Thank You!
I'm planning to get one of these DPUs with a couple of batteries but no the smart panel. I am just planning to use my generator cutover plugin straight into the breaker panel like you did on the second half of this video. Then I am going to use my remote start generator to charge the GPU batteries via the side connector at 240V. I've read that the DPU can now do a charge through that side plug while simultaneously supplying power to the house at 240V. Have you tried this? I read that it may take a firmware update to do it.
You can charge through the power plug that I used for the smart panel. It takes an adapter to adapt from that plug that’s on the power station and adapt it to a L 14 plug.
Thanks Rick. Great Video! I apologize for a silly question but I have not been able to figure this out. Utilizing the Smart Home 2 Panel, assuming grid goes down and batteries kick in, when the grid power returns, will the batteries recharge as you had it connected or do you have to run a separate dedicated circuit/wire to recharge the batteries? I am hopeful the answer is the former rather than the latter. Thanks!
The same power wire that feeds the transfer switch from the ultra also charges the ultra. That’s why I recommended the smart panel. It makes it brain dead simple
crazy discovery today with the 50A hub... was updating the wifi firmware and I noticed I had output on the standard AC outlets and also had 240v output on the hub. (in the past, connecting the 50A hub disabled the outlets on the inverter)
Interesting, I don't have that with the smart switch
Love this EcoFlow system. Is the product UL Listed? (need to make sure it complies with home insurance)
According to what I read earlier, yes
Awesome video. About to purchase the Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra inverter, 5 batteries and the smart panel 2. I would like to have my home 3 ton ac unit (30 amp) to the smart panel. My concern is the fan on the air handler gets it power from the heating breaker (60 amp). I do not plan to ever power the heating system using batteries (we don't get that cold here often). But how do I power the blower so the ac works properly? I will not install the panel myself but would want some knowledge when getting quotes from licensed electricians. Thanks for any advice.
You need to wire it so it only lets the fan run. It will take some relays to lock out the electric heat when it’s on battery power.
would this also power a tankless water heater 27kw?
@@jstcs61 like I mentioned in the video, you can add three of these together to triple the output. And you’ll need to add several batteries to be able to power that water heater. So if money is no object, absolutely you can do it.
3 EcoFlow delta pro ultra system 90,000 KWH power whole house great😊 👍
That’s a monster 😁
That will cost more than some houses.
Can these be used in a cold garage? Thanks
Yep, I covered it in the video. They have heaters built into the batteries.
@HVACRSurvival thank you! I'll watch!
With the current price of solar panels in Europe I would just hook a few of them up to this thing and grab some free kWh :D You can get 440W Panel from Trina (Tier A manufacturer ) for 76€ or $82,50 including tax here in Germany. That's in quantity of one, will get cheaper if you buy a full pallet. Hope the prices are not too bad in the US :D The modern 144 cell ones work decently even when not perfectly installed and slightly shaded.
I know I’ve been looking on Facebook marketplace and finding them fairly reasonable. It might be better for me to get solar panels instead of extra batteries.
@@HVACRSurvival If you're interested in getting some solar panels, I have accounts with Krannich, and Soligent, both are distributors for SolarEdge etc, I've installed a few large grid tied systems for a few customers, one guy has 4 inverters, 105 solar panels, plus a 48 kw Generac at his house :D
Great video. Wondering your thoughts on a system like the power station vs a custom PV, charger, inverter, battery bank as primary power source for cottage (pro, cons). Gas generator would be used for backup or low sun days.
This is plug and play and portable. It likely will cost more money but that’s the price you pay for convenience.
Good deal Rick.........
All your critical circuits are on the SHP2, which is a point of failure. Can the SHP2 bypass it's electronics if it fails (or has issues) to keep power on to the backed up circuits?
It has a manual transfer switch at the top. But If it craps out I’ll rip it out and wire it back to using just the interlock switch
What's the texas program you mentioned. I don't see anything on their site.
There should've been something on their website about it. I'm in Ohio so it didn't affect me. I didn't read much about it.
If you did have solar, say going to your Main panel, which then goes out to the grid. how would you hook the solar to the Ecoflow? Another switch with over connectors from the breaker panel?
If you have solar going straight to the main panel, then you must have a converter in between that because you can't just took DC voltage straight to AC and back feed it into the service entrance. You would need the DC voltage straight from the solar panel and plug it directly into the power station as long as the open voltage and amps is within the range of the power station.
@@HVACRSurvival of course there is a converter and a shutoff before the breaker. my question is what switch can be used from the solar breaker
I've heard the ecoflow brand tends to run into more problems with the device malfunctioning but I don't know if it's true or not
I’ve tested several different brands and they are by far one of the leaders of the pack. None of them are perfect, but they appear to be one of the better built ones I’ve seen and tested.
Thanks very good information and very well put. do you offer any help with problems with the Ecoflow?
I only know the two models that I have reviewed. They have technical support, have you tried contacting them?
Still at a loss for AC coupling. Trying to understand how this battery inverter system charges without a generator and without PV DC inputs. Does it charge using AC coupling though its output circuit? To clarify, my customer has a 7.6KW Enphase system feeding their main panel. During GRID TIE normal operation will this unit pull power through its output circuit to charge and back fed at night when the customer wants to offset their "utility time of use" rate in grid tie mode or is it strictly necessary to have a DC Solar input to charge and only operate as back up.
You must not have caught in the beginning that I told you it has 2 solar inputs, high and low voltage both and the wattage and voltage that it can charge at. You can charge it with 120 V or 240 V AC power through a plug that I showed in the video or through the smart panel that I showed in the video. I watched statistics on how long people watch and generally no one really watches the whole video even though I spend hours and hours making it. And just from what you're telling me, it sounds like you didn't watch it.
Great video. Know any installer in NYC.
Unfortunately no but if you email EcoFlow they should have people who can help.
Just a heads up for those in the comments, an interlock is illegal in many jurisdictions, make sure to check code before installing.
@@robertt9342 that’s exactly why EcoFlow tells them to get a licensed electrician.👍👍
Hi Rick, I'm very interested in this setup but my issue is my Main breaker panel is outside my house along my garage wall. Would installers be able to mount the smart panel outside but leave the lower half(Where the delta pro ultra connects to smart panel) inside the garage along the same wall and just connect it to the smart panel through the wall? I know you mention this at 11:18 but want to ensure I'm having the right idea here.
Yes, absolutely 👍. They need to run wire from the transfer panel to the plug-in device that actually goes inside where it’s safe to mount it. The actual breaker panel section is Nema three rated, which means outdoor rated and has a spot for a lock.
Thx for the great video! I'm getting ready to have a whole-home ECF setup installed. 3xDPUs, 2SP2s, total of 5 batteries. Like you, we have a heavy load here. Q: Does the power cable you show (7.1'?) connecting the Sp2 to inverter come with the panels...or need to order separately? Is there a cable with the inverters capable of connecting to the Sp2? Cant tell from their website.. Thx again for all the good info!
I believe it came with the SHP2
Great video, though I do have one question: is there a pair of current sensors which have to be clamped onto the main panel input? I ask because I saw that the grid power was shown as roughly 2kW; however, it looks as though you have only a single conduit (1") running from the main panel. I guess it's time to find the manual. (I am in the early stages of research of which product line to purchase.)
The smart panel two has a full-blown circuitboard system underneath the breakers, it measures each individuals circuit and gives you a total total or individual reading, depending on where you’re looking at.
@@HVACRSurvival So, the "grid" according to the display is actually the feeder current from the main panel, not the service drop current.
Thank you for the informative video. Will watch your other videos.
If I have two electrical panels - that are on different floors - do I have to get two EcoFlow systems with two EcoFow panels?
Also, since the EcoFlow panel does not have as many spaces for circuits as a regular electrical panel, do you combine circuits? In other words, can a Ecoflow panel circuit handle more than one circuit from the house electrical panel?
Thanks.
You can use tandem breakers to add extra circus, but you need an electrician to look at your system and advise you of your options. I can’t do that without seeing it and knowing what your local code calls for.
My house was built with two separate 200amp panels, and each is only around half full of circuits. Total overkill, but what's the best way to create a back-up system? Do i have to have a gen-disconnect for each panel? Or would a separate panel like ecosmart panel be able to disect the circuits from both panels. Scratching my head here on best way to set up a battery backup like yours. Ugh
You could do it with either one of the options you’re mentioning. It all depends what your running and for eat you want to make it fit your self
Great vid. I’d really like to hear your opinion on this vs a generac for “grid-down” situations. Is this a better option even without solar panels?
It’s also my understanding that the Inflation Reduction Act will cover this too. If so, does that make this a better value than a generac?
I have heard there’s a 30% tax credit available. One of the things to consider is when your gas generators is running and you don’t have any loads on it, you’re still burning gas….so if you don’t have solar, you could always charge it with the generator in anywhere from one to a couple hours, and then shut the gas generator off for several hours compared to the gas generator running nonstop
Sir I have a smart home panel 2 and the DPU with 3 batteries. How can I connect the inverter generator to the until and still charge it? Do I need a generator transfer switch? Or can it be done without it? While still powering the home.
Yes. Please let us know
Great review. Question on generator, do you plan to connect a generator directly to the DPU or through your existing generator connector? I will have a similar setup - no solar.
That's the plan! I was hoping to run my 120v 2200watt continuous generator for when it’s not loaded down, but I’ll probably run my 8000 W 230 V generator just because I can power this thing up in about an hour and a half to two hours.
@@HVACRSurvival You already have your generator on the main panel. Just curious if you were going to move it to the SHP2. Do you know if any generator will work on the DPU/SHP2 or would I need an inverter generator? I'll probably do a dual fuel one.
My garage gets really hot during the summer..can these batteries be stored and kept in the garage.
Really hot is not an exact number so I would need to know what the exact number is to compare it to what the Factory has stated on their manual. I believe it’s 113° but that’s out of memory.
Do you have the installation video up. I would like to watch
EcoFlow decided that since the ultra has been out for a while and the Delta pro 3 had just been released that it would be better for me to compare the two against each other. I showed basics of inside the panel and you can see how I wired it up.
@@HVACRSurvivalthank you I appreciate that
Thanks you the review, but hear me out. My gas generator plus circuit cost me 1100 dolars with a max output of 7.5k and it runs for 8 hours with a full tank of gas. This setup cost aroung 8k. Moneywise make not sense to me but you gave an idea in case i change my mind
Your right. The gas is cheaper but so are gas cars but people buy Teslas everyday. Plus it can do solar.
Where is the video on installation I'm in process of installing my smart home panel 2. I want to see all the different ways to install
The factory told me to focus on the delta pro 3 when they released it so I didn’t do it. It also might have been because they want you to use an electrician because of how many people screw up the equipment by wiring it wrong then want them to warranty it.
Hi Rick, great Video! As the Smart home panel 2 can handle only 12 breakers could I add another shp2 to my system and have my whole house backed up by Ecoflow?
I’ll have to ask and find out. I just looked to the manual and don’t see anything in there.
@@HVACRSurvival thank you!
Good stuff.. thanks!
It seems like such a great product, but the cost... wishing it were at least $1K - 1.5K less than current pricing.
Can the inverter handle the cold also like the batteries
It has the warmer built into the batteries with the DP Ultra.
@@HVACRSurvival and the batteries warm up the inverter?
The batteries have a heater in them only. I don’t believe the inverter has any heaters. I wouldn’t think it would need them.
Question so I’m looking to throw this into a camper trailer and convert the trailer to solar but my question is could I charge the unit with shore power from a campsite when I do decide to use a campground?? Can I just plug the shore power into the generator plug and would I need to u plug the solar to the unit while charging it off shore power
Yes, it’s got seven different ways that you can charge it. Plug it into the wall, plug it into a transfer switch, plug it into a generator plug it into another power station plug it into solar you can do all at the same time you can plug it into a car You name it.
Great Video! Thank you! Can I charge it with my Ford F150 powerboost, I have the 7.2 kw inverter and keep on using the battery power at the same time?
I’m not familiar with the Ford power system. What is the voltage and is it DC or AC. ?
Rick- why I can't plug DPU into my house inlet, when I'm output, when using battery, when charging whole house?
Can you rephrase that a little differently? I’m not 100% sure I’m following you.
I’m assuming you’re using a manual transfer switch? What method are you using to charge it? Are you using the standard 120 V 15 amp plug or are you doing it through the Plug on the back of it and which plug are you using to power things with?
If you had an AC coupled solar system, how would that work with regards to charging with solar via the AC back feed to grid? What happens during an outage when the AC coupled panels shut off? Is there a way to hook it up so that the solar can still be used during an outage but still on battery backup? (AC coupled panels)
This does not have an option for Back feeding to the grid. The thought process behind this system is charging your batteries and powering your home with your solar panels during the daylight hours and living off the batteries in the evening. All that would be dependent on the size of your solar panels and your battery capacity. EcoFlow also offers a gas generator that charges the battery DC to DC and communicates with the system and charges when it needs to automatically.
With the tandem breakers you used, can you power the entire house when using the EDP Ultra through the EcoFlow Smart Home Panel 2? With only 12 circuits on the Smart Home Panel 2, seems like you wouldn't be able to power the entire house but I am not familiar with breakers. Thanks!
Yes I’m powering all the circuits I feel are most important. That’s a possibility of 24 circuits.
@@HVACRSurvival up to 24, good to know, thanks!
Can you post a link to part 2?
EcoFlow chose to have me do the DP three review and compare it with the DPU instead of having me do the other. Let me ask you, what part of part two was you more interested in? (Comparison between Generac and the power station, the installation of the Smart home panel or further testing?) which is most important to you?
@@HVACRSurvival I was interested in a couple of aspects. We were looking at a Generac, and were 1 email away from pulling the trigger, but the company that was going to install it got a little funny about a couple of the line items on the quote, so we hit pause. That's when I started looking at alternatives, and the EcoFlow DPUs caught my eye.
I like the idea of the Smart Panel 2 for automatically switching over in case of an outage, but it only has space for a limited number of circuits. Still, I was interested in how you chose and moved circuits over to the Smart Panel from your main. It looked like you have all of the lines running from the main to the Smart Panel through that single large conduit.
I also like how I can scale up the DPUs over time. At this point, I'm leaning toward getting a pair of DPUs with a single battery each, connecting them to the 50A hub, then plugging the hub into a 50A inlet with an interlock/breaker in the main panel. This would allow me to feed the whole main panel from the DPUs, though I realize I would need to self-limit what we use when it's active. I could then see what the load looks like and add more batteries if needed.
Hello, not sure if you can answer this, but I already currently have 10 panels on my roof which generates about 4 kW of solar power anyway, I can tie this into the ultra? Or would I need to get separate panels to tie it into the ultra?
You need to add up your voltage and wattage and put it in the correct input. The ultra has some of the highest ratings out there. I would not see why you couldn’t do it. As long as you know how to wire them up.
@HVACRsurvival Is there a max THD on the Smart Home Panel 2? You mentioned 10% on the Ultra but if the Ultra is disconnected and I’m running solely off of a propane generator with a THD of 20%, would that be an issue?
Most decent generators are only 5% or less. Why would you have a generate that it puts out 20%? Have you actually checked it with a meter to see if that is what it is?
@@HVACRSurvival , unfortunately when I bought a generator a few years ago, I wasn’t concerned about it and ended up getting one that says in the manual it could be up to 20%. I installed a 50 amp outlet and have been running my home with it when the power goes out. Eventually I’ll upgrade to a better generator but it’s what I’ve got for now. If the THD will be an issue for the Smart Panel then I’ll just have to replace the generator first since we tend to lose grid power pretty often and occasionally for several days at a time.
How many batteries would I need for three day with normal appliances. Fridge, lights tv etc.. I don't want to spend for 5 batteries because it's expensive
Best thing to do is either buy a meter that keeps track of how ow many watts your using or look at your power bill and see how many kilowatts you’re using per day. Everyone’s gonna be different. Also depends if you have a lot of heavy electrical appliances like electric range, electric water heater, electric dryer, all those things are gonna change the numbers. There’s nothing cheap about any of these systems.
Can I use my CyberTruck bed outlets to rechard the DPU? The outlets of the Cybertruck are two 120V outlets (up to 20A) in the cabin plus two 120V outlets (up to 20A) and one 240V outlet (up to 40A) in the cargo bed. All outlets together can supply up to 9.6kW.
I know this can be charged with the adapter at the charging station. I don’t know what your plugs look like? if they’re just regular outlet looking plugs then you could always plug it in there, but you’ll get the most power transfer by using the power plug I used the video
If we are planning to have this unit in case of a multi day power loss like a hurricane and want it to run our home HVAC along with essentials (fridges, deep freeze, micro, cpap, pool equip), do we add up the amount of wattage each of these appliances use and buy enough DPU batteries to cover the wattage?
If you’re wanting to live life like you’re not on a reserve power with a battery system plan on spending allot of money on extra batteries and extra inverters. You’re definitely going to need solar cells or a gas generator to recharge it if you’re planning for a hurricane where the power can be out for several days if not longer. Pool equipment is not an necessity when you have no power, that eats up a lot of power. The easiest thing to do is look at your power bill and see how many kilowatts a day you use on average, that will tell you what you need to know and just add up how many days you want power for.
I purchased this exact setup with 2 batteries and the ecoflow smart panel 2. I have a solar panel array in my backyard. I know there is a way to wire it so when the grid is down it will charge the ecoflow batteries instead. I've contacted multiple electricians in the area and they say they would have to run a DC line from the solar panel inverter to the house. I already have lines ran from the solar panel inverter to my breaker box inside the house. Can't you use the lines that are already ran to the house already?
I’m not sure what you mean by a solar panel inverter? Generally, you take the voltage from the panels that are outside and run them directly to your EcoFlow power station. The power station has two solar inputs, one is for high voltage and one is for lower voltage. You need to measure and see what your total voltage is and make sure that your wattage is not over the rating plate for the input you’re using. You plug this strait into the EcoFlow. This is a pretty simple thing to do, you just gotta make sure you have the right size gauge wiring to handle the voltage and wattage that’s coming from the panels so that you don’t have a large voltage drop.
@@HVACRSurvival When the solar input is low will a generac generator automatically start charging an ecoflow ultra after it drops below say 35% charge?
Seems like the direct 50amp hookup in your house to your main panel is enough to control all of your house circuits without needing to buy or install the smart panel 2. What benefit does smart panel2 provide to outweigh the cost of purchasing installing and rewiring a dozen circuits if all the remaining main panel circuits would be useless when off grid power?
If the power fails while I’m not home there’s no way for it to switch it over if I was doing it the old way. It’s peace of mind not needing to rush home to switch it over. It’s an easy install. 3 hrs tops.
@@HVACRSurvival ahhh so the smart panel 2 is great for remote access! Thanks.for your video and reply! Is there any way to simply utilize your internal house direct connect 50amp (or any high amperage connection) that allows for some advanced Ecoflow Delta model(s) to intelligently act in “UPS” mode so no manual intervention would be required?
Can I hire you to setup my system?
@@angelkern I’m likely no where close to you. I’m in ohio
I’m interested in this product for whole house backup. I’m hoping to build a setup for a 3-4 day back up. I don’t know the math to calculate what I would need. Could you help me decipher how to do this using your language of watts amps etc? Thank you
If you have a digital electric meter, your power company should be able to tell you exactly how much power you’re pulling per day, I can see how much power I’m pulling per hour. It’s kind of scary how much information they have. Otherwise the next step would be to buy a power meter like I showed in the video. They’re only $15-$20. Your biggest energy hog is going to be your air conditioner. Here’s a link amzn.to/40ejIxA
This is super easy if your electric company has installed a smart meter on your house. They will probably have a 1 hour or 15 minute breakdown of your power usage for several years. You can see charts of your daily usage also. Between these 2 you can figure out your average usage for any period of time and your peak usage (almost). I say almost because 15 minutes or an hour breakdown isn't the peak usage. It's still an average but for a short time period. For an actual peak you would have to take a look at the inrush currents that your appliances use, especially HVAC, 240V water pumps etc. Since you want to use it as a whole house backup for 4 days you simply find the day of the year you used the most KwH and then size the batteries to supply that without running below say 20% so divide the KwH by 0.8 and you get how much battery you need. To be safe you might find the day you used the most and multiply that by 4. More than likely it's either going to be on the hottest or the coldest day of the year depending if your electric bills are higher in winter or summer. Now that you know how much battery you need you now need to figure out your current requirements. You probably have a 200 amp main breaker so you could just get 24KW (200A * 120V = 24KW) from your system now but that would be overkill IMO. I don't know what experts would say but I would probably double my max 15 minute average usage and use this along with the inrush to come to a good number for current.
I have a DPU and a Manual Transfer switch. Can I leave the MTS with my circuits left on "GEN" and have the DPU plugged in to my regular 200 amp panel without issue? Looking to run the DPU as a whole home UPS. So When the power goes out the DPU batteries kick in without me having to be around to flip switches should the power go out. Or does this cause a looping issue?
The 30 amp plug has UPS built into it but that’s only 120 V. I think you’re gonna have a hard time doing what you’re explaining because of the amount of amperage looping through the machine. I don’t think you’re gonna be able to recoup fast enough. The safest bet is to get the automatic transfer switch.
I was quoted 14k to buy and install 26kw Generac with 200a switch
I had a Generac installed last year. It'll run the entire house and run for weeks on end.
Thank you for the video! I live in Texas and am trying to determine who to get in touch with at their company in regard to the consultation you mentioned for TX and CA residents. Do you know if there is a specific number or Email I need to contact?
They’re supposed to be a link on their main website. If you go in my description down below, I have a link to their site that should take you to it.
@@HVACRSurvival Thank you! Would that be the link where you need to have already purchased the package in order to qualify for the free consultation/install?
does this product work outside the USA/Canada?
@@ThomasWhittaker this particular unit is 60 Hz 230 V 120 V. You might be able to get it in 50 Hz but it have to be specifically purchased that way.
QUESTION My ecoflow ultra was half delivered today. Expecting the other half shortly. My electrical panel is outside. I plan on using a generator outlet and an interlock. Can that generator outlet be placed inside the house even though the panel is outside? Using SS2-50P/L1430/L1430P to SS2-50R
Yes, if I’m understanding you correctly, you’re gonna have the interlock switch outside at your breaker panel and you want to mount the inlet box on the inside of the house like I did at my panel in the video? Of course, that means you have to run your generator cable into the house to reach the inlet box? Normally, the inlet box is mounted outside so that it’s convenient to hook up the generator outside and not have to run the wires into the house.
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This is a wonderful review but I have so many questions. I have a Whole House Generac 22KW. I want the Ecoflow Smart Panel 2 and a EcoFlow DELTA Pro 3 Portable Power Station
DELTA Pro 3 + DELTA Pro 3 Extra Battery because I want to turn off the Generac at around 10 pm at night (Very Noisy and neighbors really near) and run only a few circuits including 4 Ton AC u
unit. My idea is to run this until sunrise. I need help in configuration but it will be installed by a licensed Electrician. How can I contact you?
@thompsonp86 i’m not available to do sizing or give advice. Your application could vary compared to mine. A 4 ton AC unit is bigger than what I’ve got and it’s larger than what they rated it for, you’re better off with the delta pro ultra over the DP3 because of the size of your AC. You likely will need to have an HVAC contractor come out and see see what the inrush of your AC is to see if the DP 3 could handle it. The contractor could always add a soft start or hard start to the AC to with the starting amps. A Electrician should be able to calculate what your normal running load is to see if one battery is going to be enough. That’s about as much advice as I can give you without seeing it and testing it.
Which solar panel specs is compatible with DPU?
The manual is on the the factory’s site and I covered the voltage and wattage in the video
where do I find part two?
Like I mentioned in other spots in the comments, Eco Flow decided to not have me not do it.