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I have a wind turbine and mounted it on my garage.... The whole time you were setting it up I was saying to my wife, "It's not high enough." I went through the same ordeal. Get them solar panels and tie it into your system. That wind turbine WILL work, just 20% of the time. Good luck
Since it's a pretty small turbine you might try looking out for someone selling a ham radio mast, you can sometimes pick them up for cheap or even free from people moving home and having to get rid of the mast as part of the home sale.
I’ve been living off grid for 3 years now . I have had great success with these small wind turbines. They produce over 70% of my power . Solar only works in daylight and output is reduced in cloudy overcast days. The wind on the prairies blows day and night . It’s not unusual for me to wake up and have my battery charge levels higher than when I went to bed . This has been my real world experience.
I think this is the first positive comment I have seen on these small turbines. How much power does your turbine produce on a good windy day in amp hours? I never see this talked about very much, and it seems to be for good reason. From what I see so far, there is no comparison to solar panels with batteries. Yes there are cloudy days, but there are also calm days. My solar array on my 16 ft long solar powered RV can charge my LiFePO4 batteries at over 100 amps at peak sun. I have 2050 watts of solar panels and 900 amp hours of lithium iron phosphate batteries. 1300 watts on the roof and 750 watts in 3 ground panels. I use about 350 amp hours of electricity a day, and solar provides it all. I have never seen a small wind tubine system that can come close to that.
@@frostyfroze7352 you just have to follow the rules and they work. 1 be in an area where you have wind. 2 1t least minimum 100 yards from any obstruction and 10 yards above any obstruction. Note there are terrain features that can greatly improve air low. I.G two building that make a natural funnel orientated to the prevailing winds. or cliffs
@@frostyfroze7352these aerodynamic horizontal-axis wind turbines *_really_* can't cope with turbulence. Take a piece of paper, sketch the ground & a tree, then draw a line 45° up from the top of the tree to double the tree's height & from there back down again at about 0.5°. If your horizontal-axis wind turbine is in that shadowed area you won't get useful power from it, also if it's less than about 30 feet (10 metres) above the ground it's not going to work well. The cruder vertical-axis Savonius types don't produce _anything like_ as much power for their size but they're more tolerant of turbulence (basically if your clothes flap about a Savonius will work) so at the end of a week you'll have more Watt-hours in your battery unless you're somewhere absolutely ideal - at sea, on top of a bare mountain, a salt lake, prairie, that sort of thing. The tiny (200W -ish) ones work better because they're light enough to react to gusts but even they're not brilliant unless your terrain is ideal.
I'm retired now, but my background is in construction and building maintenance, and after watching you now for about a year, I have to say I'm impressed with everything you guys do. Very thorough and well thought out. Top notch!
You have convinced me. I am going to do this myself for my Greenhouse with one of those cool batteries. Just some constructive criticism. I am not an Electrician either but, if you decide to do this again, when splicing wires make each one a little longer than the other. That way if the taping material you use to wrap them deteriorates the naked wire will still have to get through the original insulation on the other wire is taped beside. Also, when you put wires together like that, wipe some un-scented Vaseline on them over the tape before sliding on the Heat-shrinking sleeve. Vaseline is like an insulator and if the heat-shrink deteriorates (or not), it will keep out moisture for a long time. Careful, Vaseline is flammable. I personally would have put the wires down the Galvanized tube into the container not over it. If not put the wires inside PVC pipe or Conduit. I was told by a Wire Production company employee that some companies clean and lube their wire insulation to make it last longer with peanut oil and critters love to chew on the insulation. Thanks for the Posting. I just know you are going to love this and build a bigger one for more power. I can't wait to see the next one. Sorry, this comment was so long but I absolutely loved this Video.
Can you post total Watt hour generation over the first month? And if a storm rips through, will be cool to see how it manages. These small units are very difficult to pull significant power from. And they seem to break easily. Will be cool to see your long term test data.
Its almost worth putting larger blades on them to get some extra spinning torque i think. Trying to get 100w in to blades that size would be a struggle id susggest
I work in wind research, and due to wind shear, it’s very challenging to achieve meaningful power generation close to the ground. I recommend checking out the GlobalWindAtlas, where you can explore the wind power potential for locations worldwide. It allows you to compare wind resources at different hub heights. For example, in urban Las Vegas, you can expect about 70 W/m² of rotor area at a 10 m hub height and approximately 170 W/m² at 50 m. If you’re planning a turbine to produce an average of 1 kW at 10 m in urban Las Vegas, the rotor would need to be about 4.3 m in diameter.
It seems to be this is an entire video of "watt" not to do. I also have not seen any promising results from these cheap wind turbines. Also the output says 48v, if it could achieve that, which I doubt, how would that be able to charge at battery at 52v?
@@dcmtrader Nominal voltage for both turbine and battery is 48V. My assumption is turbine will reach 60 to 70V open circuit. As well as an old car generator gives 14 to 15V. Else your car battery will die. I would like to see the turbine in a better location, else they did an ok job.
@@WillProwse float 13.5 volts , charge at 14.5 volts , wind braking at 20 volts and charge controller shut down at 12.3 volts . Wind in my main producer of electricity through the winter months . I also have a 48 volt system that I am still setting up.
Off grid 95% of my life (I'm 66) still using one wind turbine I've had over 40 years. I'm in Alaska, not much sun during winter. Things blocking wind from your turbine are equal to putting solar panels in the shade. Big turbines can cause big problems. I'd rather have a few small ones than one big one. It helps if you want to use wind, to learn about Alternating Current. I run 12 volt AC next to the batteries and rectify it to DC there. This way I have minimal power loss using an outdoor 3 wire extension cord instead of loosing a lot of power running it DC from the tower to the batteries with extremely expensive heavy copper wire. I learned that the hard way after spending more on those cables than I did on the wind generator. Most of my power is solar, but it's a real nice blessing at times when I'm low on sunshine, to have bright lights on long winter nights from the winter winds. My backup gas generator died 3 years ago and I don't miss it.😊
Wow you must have a good wind turbine! The reviews I read about the ones you can buy online today are sorry as hell and it seems they rarely last more than a few months
@zulubob5824 one, owner rebuilt Air403, one homemade, and another with the blades tied down because I get to much power in high winds. Cloudy right now and bad batteries, those two turbines are what's powering this comment.
Homemade from old car generator been running over 35 years not sure exactly my dad built all four that he had. He passed away in February 1993 I inherited two, not sure what or who might have the gotten other two? I'm just glad to have mine.
That's a good comment - I had a grate uncle that started working on water wheel chargers and wind chargers in the 1880s then moved up to steam chargers - my grandfather was his apprentice till 1900 or so - on the Gulf coast my grand father said many had 6 volt wind chargers up till the early 1930s - After the 1930s they started marketing refrigerators and freezers but they were 32 volts DC so many upgraded to 32 volts DC - On the Gulf coast wind charger were common but they did require a bit of maintenance - my grand father said - also a gas or oil burning generator was needed to equalize the battery's at least once a month - Up north because of temperature drops they used a stronger acid solution - but down here it rarely gets real cold - on the costal areas they used a acid strength in lead acid batterys of 1.195 of less - With the weak acid solution you loose a lot of capacity so you have to have a battery bank that is 2 to 3 times larger - Also the freezing point of the cells is 0° F - but cells with weaker solution of acid are known to last at least 60 yrs if there not equalized regularly and in that case there easily desulfated .I really don't know how long battery's with 1.195 gravity acid will last - my grand father just said 60;to 70 yrs of daily use as long as the plates don't shed or swell - He didn't live long enough to say if they will last longer - I know after 80 yrs the cells don't shed material or swell from what I've seen - Were I live when REA strung power lines it was $500 to set a pole and transformer up for a house and 35 cents a kw for the powerc- So the older people knew with there rural 32 volt light plants - they were generating there own power for about 1.4 cents a kw or so - the gas 32 volt generators ran at about 1000 RPMs and generated 9000 watts per gallon of gas burned - Red farm gas was 12 cents a gallon in 1960 when I was a kid down here - so many out here could not see any advantage to having 120 volts AC - Also they had motor inverters that could generate 120 volts AC sign wave when needed - they had 32 volt fridges, lights, window fans, ceiling fans, water pumps ect - Many of the older people were I live at stayed off grid till they died - Living off grid is not new at all -
@able880 wow! That's a lot of valuable information. I'm busy at the moment but I'm coming back here to read this, likely a few times. Thank you huge able880!!!
A windmill should be placed 30 feet above any obstacle within 100 yards of it for best performance. And wind flows downward at approximately 3 degrees.
The beauty of you setting it up is it gives everyone an understanding about where to set it up. Possibly put up a ‘telephone pole’ in a brush like field. I really feel this has potential where you are located. Don’t give up just yet. You have the source, you just need to find it. 😊
As an electrician you did an excellent job by adding heat shrink any area that might short like he was pointing out we would use an anti-short which is a little piece of plastic that wraps around the wires slide in to MC metal conduit there's flexi and there's non flexible metal conduit what I'm referring to is the flexible metal conduit you put the anti short around all your wires so when you put your ends on the end of the conduit itself does not cut into the wires while being moved around or manipulated,
I bought a 400 watt version of that turbine last year. I expected 200 watts. I only saw my inline meter charge a whopping 1.5 watts during an extremely stormy day. It is roof art.
La mayoría de los videos que he visto con esas turbinas chinas dan resultados negativos, estoy armando un proyecto con un motor Inverter de lavadora, genera hasta 8 amperios a 24 voltios, pero el torque es bastante fuerte, por lo que las aspas deben tener la capacidad de atrapar mucho aire para poder contrarrestar el torque.
I think you did a darn good job building your system. The problem is, it's never going to work. The deciding factor on wind power is always based on available wind energy. The way you've got it set up, you've got a yard ornament. Even a cheap anemometer can help with location choice. It was fun to watch anyhow.
I live off grid in a solar powered RV. I have been following the evolution of these small wind turbines with great interest. Unfortunately, the high hopes of the new turbine owners are never met. Much lower than expected power output, the need to get it high in the air for it to work well, the short life span of some components and the cost and hassle to replace those parts means that it is likely a better idea to just buy a few more long lasting solar panels and a charge controller to add to your existing system.
For the most part I'd agree about these turbines. The idea behind them is intriguing though. I can about double my solar system before going to 24v or 48v makes sense. And / or use a DC to DC charge controller and just use the tractor or vehicle if need be.
@@NYCamper62 I have sixteen 100 watts panels on mine. It's 24 volts. I used four 24 v 100 aH lithium batteries and four 31 series lead acid batteries on the solar part. My wind generator has sixteen marine batteries on it. It's 12 volts because they sent me a 12 volts turbine. I had ordered a 24 volts one and the sticker on it said 24 v, but it's a 12 volts one. It has been up for almost two years. I haven't had to do anything to it. It's mainly for winter when the sun ☀️ is less strong and it's cloudy here a lot. I'm going to build another one. I already have five blades and a hub, which will help output in lower wind speeds. My 600 watts B&C wind turbine was putting out 320 watts earlier, for a couple of hours. I live on a hill, where it works pretty well most of the time.
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You may have to check the manual but horizonal turbines are equipped with a brake. The brake is usually applied during excessive winds and they are usually on during installation so it doesn't back feed while hooking up the wiring. Almost all wind turbines work effortlessly with about 5 to 6 mph winds speeds.
I have mounted my wind chargers on a telescoping post , so I can raise and lower them for maintenance. A 48 volt system is a really cost effective system to start with.
I bought my wind generator in March 2023, it's 600 watts. I ordered a 24 volts one, but the one they sent was 12 volts. I used it anyway. I live almost at the top of hill, so I can only have it as high as it is, 16.5 feet. The stub pipe that's concreted into the ground next to the barn was supposed to raise it to 20 feet, but it's strapped to the side of it with a chain instead because if I raise it any, it will be hit by lightning ⚡. I made and angle iron bracket that I lag screwed into the barn rafters with a U shaped piece of strap welded to it that has a long bolt on the top of the U so I can take it down if needed. I had twenty marine batteries, 100 aH each on my solar panels so I switched to four 24 v, 100 aH lithium batteries and four 31 series heavy duty lead acid batteries which were brand new. Full charged is 26.6 v. I took the other 16 marine batteries and used them on the wind generator. I just welded the flange to a 16 foot piece of 11/2 inch ID pipe. I used a 50 foot #12 extension cord for the cable, which is soldered to the three red wires. It's connected to a 250 amps rectifier and the 16 batteries. So, I had to get a second inverter, for the wind generator. It storms a lot here in Oklahoma, and the wind comes afterwards but sometimes before too. The wind generator I bought, they sent the wrong crush plate which I had to re drill the holes, and they sent cheesy soft bolts, which I replaced with grade 8 bolts, long enough to go all the way through the hub I made them long enough to use locknuts on the back side of the hub. I also added fender washers and lock washers to the bolt heads. There was a small twister 🌀 last spring that hit it and ripped the aluminum tail fin in half. I made a new one out of old amplifier cover which was steel. The wind was 96 mph for about five minutes, and the meter was showing 1055 watts for about five minutes. It still works fine. I am using sixteen 100 watts panels for the solar wired in 8 pairs to a 40 amp Epever charge controller and the 600 aH 24 volts battery 🔋 bank. I had to install the power and control boards in my Aims Power inverter and charger 24 volts to 120 volts when it overheated in August of 2021. It has worked since then with no problem. I have a set of five blades and a hub for the next wind generator which are balanced to 144 mph. I plan on going to 48 volts, so the battery 🔋 you're going to give away looks very interesting 🤔👍😎.
If you want to get above the tree line, use a steel tube CB antenna. They're cheap to build compared to others, and easy to install since they are light enough to assemble on the ground and stand up, and strong enough to handle that little turbine. Plus you could also add a lightning rod, wifi antenna, and tv antenna. Wouldn't hurt to have a cell booster for emergencies also.
Those micro turbines only work in really really windy areas. I have a 1kw SM2 turbine and extended the tail. It has got a peak of 760W in 100 kmh winds. Much better to just go solar 👍
Off grid Australia here have solar 24V and a separate 12V system for LED house lighting, bought a cheap wind turbine and have found that it keeps my batteries topped up at night like a trickle charger hence improving battery life.
I have both, wind and solar. The Sun 🌞 is a lot more dependable than the wind. But I enjoy the wind generator too, when it's running the electric blanket and coffeepot. Saves drawing power from the solar battery 🔋 bank. when solar wattage is lower in winter ❄️ . I have 1600 watts of solar panels and a 600 watts wind generator. My solar batteries are showing 26.5 volts, and the wind ones are showing 12.77 volts, at 8 p. m. As the days get shorter, I use the wind power more, keeps the voltage up on all the batteries. I have 20 lead acid batteries and four lithium batteries on my system.
OFF GRID POWER #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS, Very nice welding practice and beads, I am planning a solar setup when I move to my property and have, like you, been toying with the idea of adding wind for those cloudy winter days. Wile I can't test yet, I have a ridge that is bare and of the times I have been to walk the property it is invariably windy. Fairly convinced that LiFePo batteries are the way and light for off grid storage given their resilience so I am adding Vatrer to my suppliers list for when it comes time to buy my main storage batteries. Thanks for the efforts at sharing your journey.👍
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I live on the ocean, so no tree blockage, however I am from Oregon originally, and I’m thinkin you top one of those big trees and cut off some limbs just below, and mount that thing right up there above the canopy. The coastal range is so beautiful, and I love the container home idea too, almost did it myself…. Cheers and safe sailing !!
I like that you placed the heat shrink sleeve into the wire egress hole. Notice the wire size determined the maximum current flow for the generator. While the manufacturer claimed it is a 1600 watt generator the output voltage would have to be about ... Let's start with the battery voltage. 48 volts I think. 1600 watts ÷ 48 volts = 34 amps The AWG wire size chart for 34 amps is 6 AWG wire. The wire coming out from the generator looks like it might be smaller than 6 AWG wire. I think at best they use 14 AWG wire and on some of the generators I've seen wire that is 16 AWG. Grant it the length of very short. I'm using at least 14 AWG wire to get down to the charge controller, hoping the input voltage to the charge controller is way higher than the battery voltage. Going from the charge controller to the battery should be at last 6 AWG wire. We will have to test the maximum sustained current level to finalize the size of the wire. The longer the wire going to the battery the thicker it needs to be.
You may have forgotten that the amperage has to be divided by 3. Therefore, 45 amps would be 15 per wire. A 14 gauge wire is sufficient for that, since you're only dealing with 34 amps. That's like 11 amps per wire. I used #12 on mine, and it works fine. The short length of #14 doesn't matter.
The wind turbines are the best that I have seen used if there is steady wind. It is great to see the most beloved "RAD" and "Burning Man" couple that I have viewed and met. So happy to see your adventures that worked out for the happiest and positive people who know the law of attraction. I however am going to bounce from one country to another but I have a very rad place for both of you to stay at in Fountain Hills, Az when you want a place to get away. Enjoy your "creation".
OFF GRID POWER! Oh man, this was exactly the video that I needed to watch! I recently inherited a small cottage/cabin when my father passed and I have been wondering if a wind turbine would be a possible option to provide backup power to some essential items. The house is nestled very deep in the Appalachian of Pennsylvania and the winds are relentless. I can't even have wind chimes, lol. Even though my property is more open, I still think that I would have difficulty generating enough power to run my sump pump, essential lights and to charge tools. I have an array of panels but I still need to mount them (waiting on a new roof). Anyway, your video inspired me and I learned a lot! Happy Holidays everybody! #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways P.S. That shot of the sun rays coming through the pines was absolutely magical!
You’re dealing with two fundamental issues: - The Betz Limit - The Power in Wind equation The Betz Limit is basically a theoretical number of the maximum efficiency you can possibly get. At most, only 59.3% of the kinetic wind energy can be used to spin the turbine and generate electricity. Remember this is a theoretical limit; in practice, you’re going to be closer to 40%. The Power in Wind equation is given as: P = 1/2 x ρ x A x V³ With: P = power in Watts ρ = air density (kg/m³, at about 1.2 at sea level) A = Swept area of the blades (m²) V = Velocity of the wind So, no matter how good your turbine is, you will get in practice at most 40% of the wind energy converted to electricity. To capture the wind energy in the first place, you have two variables to increase (one in your control, the other not): swept area and wind velocity. The smaller you make the turbine, the faster you need to spin to make any meaningful energy. The only variable you control is the swept area, which means making the blades as big as possible. Note that the velocity is cubed in that equation, so you’ll generate much, much less power at low wind speeds. In other words, small wind turbines don’t work except in ideal situations (think wide open plains with constant high wind) because physics.
@@WillProwseHave you seen this guys stuff? the only dude that made sense of wind for me, and he's got the details.$300 or less wind turbines that kick butt. Let me know what you think. He has solutions for low wind, high wind scenarios, and links to what he's buying and how to wire up. It's not as simple as I thought. Lots of quirks to wind power for the average Joe like me. th-cam.com/video/QSfWnIscDTM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bw59zMEmkV8DzFqF
@upnorthandpersonal turbulence from obstructions is the issue with these low-to-the-ground installations, your turbine needs to be twice the height of any obstruction within 100 yards (metres) or more & at least 30 feet (10 metres) off the ground 😢
@@WillProwse @PacificPinesRanch If you want a wind turbine to power an entire home that has a typical 100-200 amp service panel, you need to go Big AND Tall. To do that, you'll need at least ~2 acres of preferably Clear Land with only low-lying foliage, trees, or nearby structures. Simply take a look at any commercially installed wind turbine farm! They are always in relatively wide open areas and are all on tall enough towers to operate in the "clean linear airflow" that is well above the turbulence from the ground effect, well above any nearby trees/buildings/structures. For every 10 feet or so in additional tower and turbine height, the wind potential increases exponentially. However,.even on clear, flat land, you will not approach a worthwhile or suitable efficiency potential for positive power generation with turbine heights below ~60ft above ground level. If you are still interested, look into the Bergey Excel 10kw+ wind turbines. These are simple, direct-drive systems and have a 21 ft to 23 ft blade diameter depending on which blades are mounted. I live on 5 acres in one of the high-desert areas of California that has only low-lying Junipers and Joshua/Yucca trees, and only a few scattered tall pines less than 60ft tall. My Bergey Excel turbine is mounted atop a 100ft guyed-lattice tower on a high point of the property, as well as in a clear, open area. Consistent wind is common here, but we do have some days with dead wind/no wind, particularly during the fall months. However, the turbine needs just 6-7mph of wind to start, and at the 100ft elevation, this wind speed is quite common even when there is a barely perceptible breeze at ground level. Even during a calm day and in the calmness of the evening hours with a barely perceptible breeze at ground level, it will consistently spin at a low whirr that is fast enough to engage the inverter and provide usable power, and will typically spin consistently at a moderate rate all night long. The Bergey Excel turbines have a built-in auto-furling mechanism attached to the tail wind vane, as well as a cable with a simple crank system at the base of the tower to engage the furling system in the event of consistently high winds above 85+ mph. IIRC, the system is safety rated for up to 120+ mph winds. This system provides up to 135% of our required power for an active 1,900 SQ FT, 3-bed/2-bath home, which includes a 650 SF detached woodshop & machine shop. It has been installed since 2007 and paid for itself in roughly 7 years. It is a simple direct-drive alternator/generator with no gearbox, so the only basic maintenance needed is replacement of the front and rear sealed shaft bearings and the pivot bearing. It's very dusty here in the high desert as opposed to the prairies/grasslands, and unfortunately this contributes to a bit shorter bearing life. In addition, for dusty environments, they use a clear protective tape on the front & leading edges of each laminated fiberglass blade to prevent deterioration from the "sand-blasting" effect of the rotors cutting through the dust-filled air. Depending on UV/precipitation/ice/snow/heat/cold/dust exposure, this protective film needs to be replaced every 5-10 years, which has been performed twice so far at the cost of ~$350 each time. $150 of that was a flat rate tower-climbing fee, then about 1.25 hours labor to replace the film on all 3 blades. The bearings needed replacement in late 2022 at the cost of $560 with installation labor. However, we offset these costs and also supplemented our monthly & annual income by leasing our tower to T-Mobile cellular. They installed cellular repeater antennas to the tower which are powered by T-taps into the turbine's power wires that then feed into their own small inverter, power supply, and backup battery mounted on the tower with the cellular antennas. Cellular antennas are relatively directional or "hyper-cardioid" in dispersion in the horizontal plane, and even more directional in the vertical plane. We requested that none of the antennas be pointed in any proximity towards our home, and they complied. Even with this added power draw, the turbine still produces an average monthly excess of 15% to 30% above & beyond our needs. When the system was installed in 2007 it cost roughly $51k. However, at that time there were combined Federal, State, and local utility company Rebates which cut the total out-of-pocket cost basically in half to just $26k. For the area we live in, the wind turbine system was more efficient and more cost-effective than an equivalent output system using solar PV panels...and we have PLENTY of sunshine here. A good part of that efficiency is the potential for the wind turbine system to produce power 24/7, as well as being less subject to seasonal changes in sun exposure times, and not being affected by snowfall or other PV panel obstructions. Since the system's installation in 2007, we have never paid a power bill, and in fact, for about half of that time and continuing to this day, we have a net positive income from the system. For anyone that may be curious, since its installation in 2007, we have never witnessed or experienced any type of bird strike or bird fatality due to the wind turbine, and I can guarantee that we have a plethora of all types of birds in this area! However, it's possible that the local coyotes or other predators (including road-runners/hawks/raptors/owls/golden eagles) have removed any of this evidence before we've had the chance to see it. So this isn't definitive. However, I CAN say that we have witnessed MANY a birds' demise due to the hunting of the above-mentioned natural predators, completely unrelated to the wind turbine, so there's that. Unfortunately, the trial "wind turbine system installation" demonstrated in this video was an exercise in failure from the very beginning due to lack of research and understanding of the conditions & requirements that need to be met before even considering such a project and installation. Even an ornamental windmill will fail to consistently spin when surrounded by wildly turbulent ground-effect air. In fact, the position where their turbine was mounted on the corner of the shipping container was potentially the worst possible place for it. :/ A basic study in fluid dynamics and airflow/air currents around & over common building structures would have revealed this. Updrafts, downdrafts, vortexes, and turbulence are no friends to a wind turbine! :/
"Off Grid Power" It's a good thing those trees are there to slow the wind from punishing your home. Hopefully they're all healthy and stay rooted. Thanks for sharing!
It won't work as you think its going to. All those trees attenuate the wind. You need a tower that rises well above them. Also its just plain windier up there anyway as the ground slows it down. Also do not mount it on your house. Turbines vibrate and make noise that you don't want conducting into your house. Get one of the books by Paul Gipe on the subject.
Just been recommended as a watch, and have to say the work you've both put in isawesome, not afraid to get your hands dirty, and you're very relaxing to watch
☹ You will have to heat and cool the trailer so the battiers don't get to hot in the summer or to cold in the winter. The power out put of one wind generator wont do the job. I did like your install it was a good job.
NGL i absolutely love that LIKE MYSELF you not only wear a welding HELMET but also a respirator ! GOOD JOB . all you need now is a NECK BIB and youre set to WELD THE WORLD TOGETHER!
also side note ... youre gonna need at least 4 or 5 of those turbines just to keep a 100watt bulb lit for 24 hrs off that battery. Im very well versed at off-grid setups if you ever need a hand let me know (electrical & structural engineer )
OFF GRID POWER #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAY I own a Vatrer battery, got it for my RV. Works great and has low temp cutoff with a built in heater. Perfect Nor-Cali.
Maybe think about some Locktite on those bolts for the wind turbine - again, vibrations will loosen them over time. Keep in mind, heat is the enemy of electronics. Don't put that heater next to your electronics, please! There are towers you can self-raise to get your turbine higher. You can push it up from below so you don't have to have a super-high reach with ladders. Ms/Mrs. Pacific Pines Ranch, I think you probably need a license for the level of cuteness you hit in this video!
OFF GRID POWER #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS Good content. Hope to learn from your experiences. Quality battery storage is a "no-brainer" because many different forms of energy can be used to supply it. I aim to rely less on the grid and wind and solar are very promising in the Texas Panhandle so that is the route I plan to take. Experience is the best teacher y'all and I hope all works out well for you.
I just started watching your shows I totally inspire them I've been homeless a couple times this past year due to health issues and my car catching on fire. Maybe this is my luck chance of getting better hope I win lol. Sorry about the spelling any punctuation my phone is cracked also and I can't mash no punctuation buttons hardly
OFF GRID POWER #VATER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS I have been looking at this exact battery for my off grid project. Thank you for showing the wind option. We have been interested in its possibilities on our windy hill.
Amazing. Very usefull information, great video I just loved. My best wishes for you from Costa Rica , can wait to see more videos like this in your channel.
if you can get an old radio tower for cheap - thos old triangular towers that use some guy wires to support them - 100 feet up there may be better wind result. great vid, thanks for putting all the work into it and filming - we know this takes a ton of extra effort.
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Yah i have been resurching wind power alot and the way it says you kind of have to have 20 mph wind ona regular basis or it wont charge the batteries. than toget it high enough it is recomended you have atleast a acre of land in introupted by trees that is just so you dont have to go to high but than the cost of the platforms and wires to get it to work may cost triple the wind turbine cost as hidden costs.. than still its dependent on 20 mph wind inorder to register a charge on the generator or battery back up power even as a trickle. I have a wind break i am in nebraska and even though i have a acre it may not be windy enough.. Your videos are very helpfull and futher direct my resurch in the pros and cons of wind power over solar.. still think it may be viable on cold windy days when we just dont ge solar power. keep up the good work i am learning one way or the other. thank you.
Great video as always... Something to consider adding is a safety feature for Wind Turbans and that's a Wind Break, Google it. What a wind break is, is a way for the turban to be controlled if it's getting too much wind. It's typically resistors, like a heating element, that the energy is diverted too so it won't overcharge the battery, despite the BMS. Also it's a way to cut power from the Wind Turban too. Seems to me that a bridge rectifier needs to be added as well to control the amount of energy the Turban can produce. And something about Phase seems to ring a few bells that I think the Bridge Rectifier aids with too. Typically I've seen the Bridge Rectifier attached to the 3 leads that leave the turban then a different wire is added after that, but I'm sure you can add one inside near the Battery too. I seem to recall an issue with connecting the Turban directly to the battery. I could be wrong, and things may have changed, it's been a few years since last I researched Wind Turbans so take my comment with a huge grain of Salt... Good luck with your project, I look forward to seeing what you get into next...
Good job🎉 I would attach the Windvane to a top of a tree. Saw the top off to get a flat pad. Create a bucket like metal base to cover the tree top with pre drilled holes.
New sub here remote rural off grid Australia solar and wind , am trialling a small wind turbine at the moment have a 24V setup with a separate 12V battery bank for led system for house lighting. So far I have found that the small wind turbine keeps my batteries topped up at night hence supporting battery life , may get a more expensive one but have figured out that wind turbine alone would not provide me with my power requirements, unless I spent an very large pile of money. Great upload will follow your channel with interest.
i've seen really massive foundations being laid for smaller wind turbines relative to their size. the constant vibration, the pressure generated by the wind and so on can cause problems over an extended period of time. But it is still a great project, wish you all the best.
A lot of those little wind turbines have electromagnetic brakes by way of shorting the cables. That could be why it's not spinning much at all. I would try disconnect the bridge rectifier (turn the breakers off), then measure continuity with a multi meter to ensure there are no shorts between each of the 3 phases coming from the turbine. Also see if it spins more when it's open circuit. See if you can spin the blades manually, they should spin freely when the battery is disconnected. You may also need to install a charge regulator between the battery and the generator if you haven't already. Consequently, once it's up and running, if you need to access the wind turbine for maintenance and it's spinning, short out at least two of the phases and it should stop it spinning for safer access :) You can do this by adding another breaker / switch across two or more of the phases.
I like LiFePo4 batteries ... got 200Ah 13.2V system with 12V output ( 20A fuse ) for charging cell phones or small car inverters (60W ) and 3000W pure sinewave inverter for anything else . I build it for power outages ( we had 3hrs no power one night , I connected cord to power bar for tv and internet and lights while neighbor hood was all dark ).
I like this idea of solar power. I hope my family and my neighbors can make something similar to do a clean energy environment. God bless you guys. Keep making the difference on the world 🌎 #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways
Wind turbines are nice I live on a sailboat I have 400 w solar panel and to a 200 watt wind turbine and for my needs and use on my 34 ft sailboat it works great
"OFF GRID POWER" AKA Pacific Pines Ranch, it's interesting that you could not get the wind to cooperate with the turbine and the #VATRER battery. The reason I moved inland from the Oregon coast was to get away from the wind! I hope the #VATRERGIVEAWAYS goes well. Thanks for the video.
You might consider having an expert climb the tallest tree near your home and toping it so your can mount the wind generator up at the tops of trees for better performance,. Even consider topping the closest trees around your wind generator help clear wind access for the wind generator. Nice video.
#Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways I taught myself about LiFpo battery packs and BMS recently, (before seeing this video), while converting an automobile from gasoline to electric. 144 volt system. A farmer I know could use this kind of set up to run his off grid electric fence and water well pump. Good work Pacific Pines!
alot of ppl are new to DC-volt power thanks to alot of factors around the world .. me, i am trying to learn it to run a shade house. sadly the groups im in over the last few years are giving me the same basic info that i already know as its not rocket science, but honestly teh Voltage and type of wiring used is, for a better and safer use. i can see the set up you have used, pause the video and draw it down, but not really sure why used a larger classed wire connected from turbine to were ever they go. a end or mid schematic in vids , i may start asking this on most DC now as it been helpful in some, and why certain grades used are better.. so people dont set fire to their stuff.. which i have personally seen in utilities .. cuase it shorted out or over heated the wrong size connection or bad crimp vids chill, cozy and clearly keep it up
I did wonder why you were fitting a turbine in somewhere sheltered by tree's. Where i live is perfect with no obstacles other than a few trees around the house. 🤔💚💛❤️ You can get more efficient blades. Look at the one that looks like a spiral. It can be used at any angle 💚👍
Just a thought from a DIYer myself, but you should probably have put a flat plate on the post and welded it on to prevent water from getting in where the holes are around the base of the turbine unit. The post being hollow, I would have ran the power through it and not outside attached with zip tie cords. A removeable access panel that clips in place would be sufficient. Just my 2 cents.
If you triangulate supports from the two set points next to each other and the one directly across from them , you would be able to raise the windmill up into the air quite a bit. Using the extra box steel would be perfect! A nice solar array could accompany it as well 😊❤! The combination of that along with a generator and battery 🔋 bank would probably meet your needs. Hopefully lol 😆 The higher you get it, the stronger the wind. 🌬️ 💨 Believe it or not you’ll still get some solar energy during the winter months as well! ☀️ Are you considering a split level heat pump? Just curious 😅 If I haven’t mentioned it before you are a gifted welder and I am totally jealous lol 😂! I have tried and tried. I was in factory maintenance for years and still I don’t have the nice dime rolls you do! It’s refreshing to see a couple determined to make it all work! My parents have a large propane tank that powers their generator as a backup for the grid. Best of luck!
Good looking battery, it's recommended to setup a 51,2 volt battery to work with a 51,2 volt charge controller and inverter. By using it in a 48 vdc setup will have battery constantly run at low voltage.
So, get a tree climber like deer hunters use. Climb one of those tall pines, cut off a few limbs to make a good opening, attach a small platform, and mount your wind turbine up there. Or, you might be able to build a get an experienced tree climber to do that for you.
To give that turbine the best wind you should get above the tree tops. A simple tower would the right thing to get the turbine up high where the good wind is.
"OFF GRID POWER" HASHTAGS #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS I am looking into installing solar and battery backup for my home and this was good to see someone starting up too. Keep up the good work.
You may want to consider a few new options. Too either try and put your wind generator at the top of a taller tree and run power lines from it to the house or cutting down some of the trees to get more straight line wind generation. If that works then buy more wind generators and set up a field of wind generators in either series or parallel to increase your amperage to charge your batteries and then add solar to the same area to double dip of the gains to use renewable energy to sustain your energy consumption. The trees that you fall can always be used to warm your place or to create wood & lumber material to build with on future projects because a new homestead will always have needs of new storage or build materials. I enjoy your content.
Usually, a rule of thumb is that the turbine should be 10 meters above the surroundings. In the very best case, you can get 200 watts per square meter of swept area as a maximum. In most cases, don't expect more than 100 watts. Try the Hugh Piggott wind turbine. It is of high quality and perfect for DIY projects.
very interesting (and disillusioning) experiment, thanks for sharing 👍 I wonder if a vertical axis would perform better with all the turbulences caused by the trees 🤔
I found your site, OFF GRID POWER, fro a TH-cam suggestion. I enjoyed the post. I am looking into battery backups and solar power for emergency backup use. I never considered wind and I was not surprised the little turbine did not perform well. They do not seem to have very good reviews online. I also follow Will Prowse and his TH-cam Channel and am learning so much. Thank you. #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS
Great video and a way to think outside the box (pun intended) for your off-grid power needs. Having a wind turbine is an excellent opinion #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways
I've noticed that during the worst storms and when there is no solar you'll get gusts at a minimum. Those will not completely charge the battery but will help and if your lucky an on shore breeze will probably fill it . Good luck.
Thank you guys for your videos, can you find someone to climb a tree and fix your windmill up there? Or buy some used scaffold poles with joiners and keep adding till you get above the trees fixing it to the tree as you go 😂😂.love your new home , you 2 have done so well and isn’t life enjoyable when you are both young enough to enjoy doing the work. Do you get much wild life round there like Bears or Moose? And do you have dogs? Thanks again and good luck. Jon 🇦🇺 West Australia.
Chop-off 4 (or more) tree-tops. Build a platform on those tree-tops. Put a small tower on the platform (or just use the mast you’re using). For extra security, run some guy-cables to the trees. It’s a lot of effort (and money), but it will work. Good luck.
Might wanna put a lot more weld on that base mount. Maybe a couple of gussets. The top of the box member is a long way away and the moment arm can generate a lot of force.
Nice job with your project. I am currently awaiting a Fablestoryem 10000 watt wind Turbine, to supplement my 640w solar array. I think your building are with in falling distance of tree's. Pick one to mount on wooden beam, wind speed is higher above 50-100ft of ground level. Additionally a ground should be added to your galvanized pole. Solar would help, some panels charge even with cloudy skies. I use RENOGY
I think the seasonal winds change direction and for six months out of the year your turbine may be productive. Put some solar panels on top of that shipping container and produce electricity year round. I was delighted to learn that battery can output 100 amps continuous as I wish to power a remote workshop and have the ability to use a welder.
Check wind charts for your area. Many of the turbines require a minimum 15mph windspeed. A huge majority of locations don't have enough sustained wind at high enough speeds. Really need to be above the tree line
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How much was the battery?, how many watts coming out of the generator? Wind turbine
I have a wind turbine and mounted it on my garage.... The whole time you were setting it up I was saying to my wife, "It's not high enough." I went through the same ordeal. Get them solar panels and tie it into your system. That wind turbine WILL work, just 20% of the time. Good luck
Since it's a pretty small turbine you might try looking out for someone selling a ham radio mast, you can sometimes pick them up for cheap or even free from people moving home and having to get rid of the mast as part of the home sale.
I’ve been living off grid for 3 years now . I have had great success with these small wind turbines. They produce over 70% of my power . Solar only works in daylight and output is reduced in cloudy overcast days. The wind on the prairies blows day and night . It’s not unusual for me to wake up and have my battery charge levels higher than when I went to bed . This has been my real world experience.
I think this is the first positive comment I have seen on these small turbines. How much power does your turbine produce on a good windy day in amp hours? I never see this talked about very much, and it seems to be for good reason. From what I see so far, there is no comparison to solar panels with batteries. Yes there are cloudy days, but there are also calm days. My solar array on my 16 ft long solar powered RV can charge my LiFePO4 batteries at over 100 amps at peak sun. I have 2050 watts of solar panels and 900 amp hours of lithium iron phosphate batteries. 1300 watts on the roof and 750 watts in 3 ground panels. I use about 350 amp hours of electricity a day, and solar provides it all. I have never seen a small wind tubine system that can come close to that.
Pls do make make a video on how you are successful with these small wind toys, you could help out a lot ppl
@@frostyfroze7352 you just have to follow the rules and they work. 1 be in an area where you have wind. 2 1t least minimum 100 yards from any obstruction and 10 yards above any obstruction. Note there are terrain features that can greatly improve air low. I.G two building that make a natural funnel orientated to the prevailing winds. or cliffs
@@frostyfroze7352these aerodynamic horizontal-axis wind turbines *_really_* can't cope with turbulence.
Take a piece of paper, sketch the ground & a tree, then draw a line 45° up from the top of the tree to double the tree's height & from there back down again at about 0.5°. If your horizontal-axis wind turbine is in that shadowed area you won't get useful power from it, also if it's less than about 30 feet (10 metres) above the ground it's not going to work well.
The cruder vertical-axis Savonius types don't produce _anything like_ as much power for their size but they're more tolerant of turbulence (basically if your clothes flap about a Savonius will work) so at the end of a week you'll have more Watt-hours in your battery unless you're somewhere absolutely ideal - at sea, on top of a bare mountain, a salt lake, prairie, that sort of thing.
The tiny (200W -ish) ones work better because they're light enough to react to gusts but even they're not brilliant unless your terrain is ideal.
Wait, are you telling us that if one lives in a windy place, a wind turbine can produce power?
I'm retired now, but my background is in construction and building maintenance, and after watching you now for about a year, I have to say I'm impressed with everything you guys do. Very thorough and well thought out. Top notch!
You have convinced me. I am going to do this myself for my Greenhouse with one of those cool batteries. Just some constructive criticism. I am not an Electrician either but, if you decide to do this again, when splicing wires make each one a little longer than the other. That way if the taping material you use to wrap them deteriorates the naked wire will still have to get through the original insulation on the other wire is taped beside. Also, when you put wires together like that, wipe some un-scented Vaseline on them over the tape before sliding on the Heat-shrinking sleeve. Vaseline is like an insulator and if the heat-shrink deteriorates (or not), it will keep out moisture for a long time. Careful, Vaseline is flammable. I personally would have put the wires down the Galvanized tube into the container not over it. If not put the wires inside PVC pipe or Conduit. I was told by a Wire Production company employee that some companies clean and lube their wire insulation to make it last longer with peanut oil and critters love to chew on the insulation. Thanks for the Posting. I just know you are going to love this and build a bigger one for more power. I can't wait to see the next one. Sorry, this comment was so long but I absolutely loved this Video.
Can you post total Watt hour generation over the first month? And if a storm rips through, will be cool to see how it manages. These small units are very difficult to pull significant power from. And they seem to break easily. Will be cool to see your long term test data.
Its almost worth putting larger blades on them to get some extra spinning torque i think. Trying to get 100w in to blades that size would be a struggle id susggest
I work in wind research, and due to wind shear, it’s very challenging to achieve meaningful power generation close to the ground. I recommend checking out the GlobalWindAtlas, where you can explore the wind power potential for locations worldwide. It allows you to compare wind resources at different hub heights. For example, in urban Las Vegas, you can expect about 70 W/m² of rotor area at a 10 m hub height and approximately 170 W/m² at 50 m.
If you’re planning a turbine to produce an average of 1 kW at 10 m in urban Las Vegas, the rotor would need to be about 4.3 m in diameter.
It seems to be this is an entire video of "watt" not to do. I also have not seen any promising results from these cheap wind turbines.
Also the output says 48v, if it could achieve that, which I doubt, how would that be able to charge at battery at 52v?
@@dcmtrader Nominal voltage for both turbine and battery is 48V. My assumption is turbine will reach 60 to 70V open circuit. As well as an old car generator gives 14 to 15V. Else your car battery will die.
I would like to see the turbine in a better location, else they did an ok job.
@@WillProwse float 13.5 volts , charge at 14.5 volts , wind braking at 20 volts and charge controller shut down at 12.3 volts . Wind in my main producer of electricity through the winter months . I also have a 48 volt system that I am still setting up.
Off grid 95% of my life (I'm 66) still using one wind turbine I've had over 40 years. I'm in Alaska, not much sun during winter. Things blocking wind from your turbine are equal to putting solar panels in the shade. Big turbines can cause big problems. I'd rather have a few small ones than one big one. It helps if you want to use wind, to learn about Alternating Current. I run 12 volt AC next to the batteries and rectify it to DC there. This way I have minimal power loss using an outdoor 3 wire extension cord instead of loosing a lot of power running it DC from the tower to the batteries with extremely expensive heavy copper wire. I learned that the hard way after spending more on those cables than I did on the wind generator. Most of my power is solar, but it's a real nice blessing at times when I'm low on sunshine, to have bright lights on long winter nights from the winter winds. My backup gas generator died 3 years ago and I don't miss it.😊
Wow you must have a good wind turbine! The reviews I read about the ones you can buy online today are sorry as hell and it seems they rarely last more than a few months
@zulubob5824 one, owner rebuilt Air403, one homemade, and another with the blades tied down because I get to much power in high winds. Cloudy right now and bad batteries, those two turbines are what's powering this comment.
Homemade from old car generator been running over 35 years not sure exactly my dad built all four that he had. He passed away in February 1993 I inherited two, not sure what or who might have the gotten other two? I'm just glad to have mine.
That's a good comment - I had a grate uncle that started working on water wheel chargers and wind chargers in the 1880s then moved up to steam chargers - my grandfather was his apprentice till 1900 or so -
on the Gulf coast my grand father said many had 6 volt wind chargers up till the early 1930s -
After the 1930s they started marketing refrigerators and freezers but they were 32 volts DC so many upgraded to 32 volts DC -
On the Gulf coast wind charger were common but they did require a bit of maintenance - my grand father said - also a gas or oil burning generator was needed to equalize the battery's at least once a month -
Up north because of temperature drops they used a stronger acid solution - but down here it rarely gets real cold - on the costal areas they used a acid strength in lead acid batterys of 1.195 of less -
With the weak acid solution you loose a lot of capacity so you have to have a battery bank that is 2 to 3 times larger -
Also the freezing point of the cells is 0° F - but cells with weaker solution of acid are known to last at least 60 yrs if there not equalized regularly and in that case there easily desulfated
.I really don't know how long battery's with 1.195 gravity acid will last - my grand father just said 60;to 70 yrs of daily use as long as the plates don't shed or swell -
He didn't live long enough to say if they will last longer - I know after 80 yrs the cells don't shed material or swell from what I've seen -
Were I live when REA strung power lines it was $500 to set a pole and transformer up for a house and 35 cents a kw for the powerc-
So the older people knew with there rural 32 volt light plants - they were generating there own power for about 1.4 cents a kw or so - the gas 32 volt generators ran at about 1000 RPMs and generated 9000 watts per gallon of gas burned -
Red farm gas was 12 cents a gallon in 1960 when I was a kid down here - so many out here could not see any advantage to having 120 volts AC -
Also they had motor inverters that could generate 120 volts AC sign wave when needed - they had 32 volt fridges, lights, window fans, ceiling fans, water pumps ect -
Many of the older people were I live at stayed off grid till they died -
Living off grid is not new at all -
@able880 wow! That's a lot of valuable information. I'm busy at the moment but I'm coming back here to read this, likely a few times. Thank you huge able880!!!
For any Windmill generator to be highly effective it must be above the tree line. 👍👍🤠
A windmill should be placed 30 feet above any obstacle within 100 yards of it for best performance. And wind flows downward at approximately 3 degrees.
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The beauty of you setting it up is it gives everyone an understanding about where to set it up. Possibly put up a ‘telephone pole’ in a brush like field. I really feel this has potential where you are located. Don’t give up just yet. You have the source, you just need to find it. 😊
As an electrician you did an excellent job by adding heat shrink any area that might short like he was pointing out we would use an anti-short which is a little piece of plastic that wraps around the wires slide in to MC metal conduit there's flexi and there's non flexible metal conduit what I'm referring to is the flexible metal conduit you put the anti short around all your wires so when you put your ends on the end of the conduit itself does not cut into the wires while being moved around or manipulated,
I bought a 400 watt version of that turbine last year. I expected 200 watts. I only saw my inline meter charge a whopping 1.5 watts during an extremely stormy day. It is roof art.
See my comment above uninstallation. You need a tower in most instances, if you put it on the roof it is “roof art.”
Yes they need to take down some trees to let the wind through.
La mayoría de los videos que he visto con esas turbinas chinas dan resultados negativos, estoy armando un proyecto con un motor Inverter de lavadora, genera hasta 8 amperios a 24 voltios, pero el torque es bastante fuerte, por lo que las aspas deben tener la capacidad de atrapar mucho aire para poder contrarrestar el torque.
I bought the 600 watts version, and I routinely get 250-320 watts in a good 25 mph wind. In a 35 mph steady wind, it'll be 350- 400 watts.
I think you did a darn good job building your system.
The problem is, it's never going to work.
The deciding factor on wind power is always based on available wind energy.
The way you've got it set up, you've got a yard ornament.
Even a cheap anemometer can help with location choice.
It was fun to watch anyhow.
I admire what you two are doing!
I live off grid in a solar powered RV. I have been following the evolution of these small wind turbines with great interest. Unfortunately, the high hopes of the new turbine owners are never met. Much lower than expected power output, the need to get it high in the air for it to work well, the short life span of some components and the cost and hassle to replace those parts means that it is likely a better idea to just buy a few more long lasting solar panels and a charge controller to add to your existing system.
I maxed out on the amount of solar panels that I can hook to the charge controller, then added a wind generator.
For the most part I'd agree about these turbines. The idea behind them is intriguing though.
I can about double my solar system before going to 24v or 48v makes sense. And / or use a DC to DC charge controller and just use the tractor or vehicle if need be.
@@NYCamper62 I have sixteen 100 watts panels on mine. It's 24 volts. I used four 24 v 100 aH lithium batteries and four 31 series lead acid batteries on the solar part. My wind generator has sixteen marine batteries on it. It's 12 volts because they sent me a 12 volts turbine. I had ordered a 24 volts one and the sticker on it said 24 v, but it's a 12 volts one. It has been up for almost two years. I haven't had to do anything to it. It's mainly for winter when the sun ☀️ is less strong and it's cloudy here a lot. I'm going to build another one. I already have five blades and a hub, which will help output in lower wind speeds. My 600 watts B&C wind turbine was putting out 320 watts earlier, for a couple of hours. I live on a hill, where it works pretty well most of the time.
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You may have to check the manual but horizonal turbines are equipped with a brake. The brake is usually applied during excessive winds and they are usually on during installation so it doesn't back feed while hooking up the wiring. Almost all wind turbines work effortlessly with about 5 to 6 mph winds speeds.
I have mounted my wind chargers on a telescoping post , so I can raise and lower them for maintenance. A 48 volt system is a really cost effective system to start with.
I bought my wind generator in March 2023, it's 600 watts. I ordered a 24 volts one, but the one they sent was 12 volts. I used it anyway. I live almost at the top of hill, so I can only have it as high as it is, 16.5 feet. The stub pipe that's concreted into the ground next to the barn was supposed to raise it to 20 feet, but it's strapped to the side of it with a chain instead because if I raise it any, it will be hit by lightning ⚡. I made and angle iron bracket that I lag screwed into the barn rafters with a U shaped piece of strap welded to it that has a long bolt on the top of the U so I can take it down if needed. I had twenty marine batteries, 100 aH each on my solar panels so I switched to four 24 v, 100 aH lithium batteries and four 31 series heavy duty lead acid batteries which were brand new. Full charged is 26.6 v. I took the other 16 marine batteries and used them on the wind generator. I just welded the flange to a 16 foot piece of 11/2 inch ID pipe. I used a 50 foot #12 extension cord for the cable, which is soldered to the three red wires. It's connected to a 250 amps rectifier and the 16 batteries. So, I had to get a second inverter, for the wind generator. It storms a lot here in Oklahoma, and the wind comes afterwards but sometimes before too. The wind generator I bought, they sent the wrong crush plate which I had to re drill the holes, and they sent cheesy soft bolts, which I replaced with grade 8 bolts, long enough to go all the way through the hub I made them long enough to use locknuts on the back side of the hub. I also added fender washers and lock washers to the bolt heads. There was a small twister 🌀 last spring that hit it and ripped the aluminum tail fin in half. I made a new one out of old amplifier cover which was steel. The wind was 96 mph for about five minutes, and the meter was showing 1055 watts for about five minutes. It still works fine. I am using sixteen 100 watts panels for the solar wired in 8 pairs to a 40 amp Epever charge controller and the 600 aH 24 volts battery 🔋 bank. I had to install the power and control boards in my Aims Power inverter and charger 24 volts to 120 volts when it overheated in August of 2021. It has worked since then with no problem. I have a set of five blades and a hub for the next wind generator which are balanced to 144 mph. I plan on going to 48 volts, so the battery 🔋 you're going to give away looks very interesting 🤔👍😎.
If you want to get above the tree line, use a steel tube CB antenna. They're cheap to build compared to others, and easy to install since they are light enough to assemble on the ground and stand up, and strong enough to handle that little turbine. Plus you could also add a lightning rod, wifi antenna, and tv antenna. Wouldn't hurt to have a cell booster for emergencies also.
Those micro turbines only work in really really windy areas. I have a 1kw SM2 turbine and extended the tail. It has got a peak of 760W in 100 kmh winds. Much better to just go solar 👍
Off grid Australia here have solar 24V and a separate 12V system for LED house lighting, bought a cheap wind turbine and have found that it keeps my batteries topped up at night like a trickle charger hence improving battery life.
@@TheSilmarillian Not if they are liFePO4, which does NOT like being held at full charge. If using lead acid then it is just throwing money away.
I have both, wind and solar. The Sun 🌞 is a lot more dependable than the wind. But I enjoy the wind generator too, when it's running the electric blanket and coffeepot. Saves drawing power from the solar battery 🔋 bank. when solar wattage is lower in winter ❄️ . I have 1600 watts of solar panels and a 600 watts wind generator. My solar batteries are showing 26.5 volts, and the wind ones are showing 12.77 volts, at 8 p. m. As the days get shorter, I use the wind power more, keeps the voltage up on all the batteries. I have 20 lead acid batteries and four lithium batteries on my system.
@@DavidPotter-k1d I agree ... Wind Power is more fun and does work well as a backup in low sun conditions. It's exciting to watch in typhoon winds 👍
OFF GRID POWER #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS, Very nice welding practice and beads, I am planning a solar setup when I move to my property and have, like you, been toying with the idea of adding wind for those cloudy winter days. Wile I can't test yet, I have a ridge that is bare and of the times I have been to walk the property it is invariably windy. Fairly convinced that LiFePo batteries are the way and light for off grid storage given their resilience so I am adding Vatrer to my suppliers list for when it comes time to buy my main storage batteries. Thanks for the efforts at sharing your journey.👍
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Get some climbing spikes and mount it to the top of one of the tall trees. Best tower ever.
Was waiting for someone to mention that. 👍
I live on the ocean, so no tree blockage, however I am from Oregon originally, and I’m thinkin you top one of those big trees and cut off some limbs just below, and mount that thing right up there above the canopy. The coastal range is so beautiful, and I love the container home idea too, almost did it myself…. Cheers and safe sailing !!
I like that you placed the heat shrink sleeve into the wire egress hole. Notice the wire size determined the maximum current flow for the generator.
While the manufacturer claimed it is a 1600 watt generator the output voltage would have to be about ... Let's start with the battery voltage.
48 volts I think.
1600 watts ÷ 48 volts = 34 amps
The AWG wire size chart for 34 amps is 6 AWG wire.
The wire coming out from the generator looks like it might be smaller than 6 AWG wire. I think at best they use 14 AWG wire and on some of the generators I've seen wire that is 16 AWG.
Grant it the length of very short. I'm using at least 14 AWG wire to get down to the charge controller, hoping the input voltage to the charge controller is way higher than the battery voltage. Going from the charge controller to the battery should be at last 6 AWG wire. We will have to test the maximum sustained current level to finalize the size of the wire. The longer the wire going to the battery the thicker it needs to be.
You may have forgotten that the amperage has to be divided by 3. Therefore, 45 amps would be 15 per wire. A 14 gauge wire is sufficient for that, since you're only dealing with 34 amps. That's like 11 amps per wire. I used #12 on mine, and it works fine. The short length of #14 doesn't matter.
The wind turbines are the best that I have seen used if there is steady wind.
It is great to see the most beloved "RAD" and "Burning Man" couple that I have viewed and met.
So happy to see your adventures that worked out for the happiest and positive people who know
the law of attraction. I however am going to bounce from one country to another but I have a very
rad place for both of you to stay at in Fountain Hills, Az when you want a place to get away.
Enjoy your "creation".
I have heard wind turbines cause buildings to vibrate, also they work best when 30' higher than surrounding objects. Good luck.
I wrapped the pole with a double layer of carpet where it fits against the barn bracket, working great. Pretty quiet too...
OFF GRID POWER! Oh man, this was exactly the video that I needed to watch! I recently inherited a small cottage/cabin when my father passed and I have been wondering if a wind turbine would be a possible option to provide backup power to some essential items. The house is nestled very deep in the Appalachian of Pennsylvania and the winds are relentless. I can't even have wind chimes, lol. Even though my property is more open, I still think that I would have difficulty generating enough power to run my sump pump, essential lights and to charge tools. I have an array of panels but I still need to mount them (waiting on a new roof). Anyway, your video inspired me and I learned a lot! Happy Holidays everybody! #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways
P.S. That shot of the sun rays coming through the pines was absolutely magical!
You’re dealing with two fundamental issues:
- The Betz Limit
- The Power in Wind equation
The Betz Limit is basically a theoretical number of the maximum efficiency you can possibly get. At most, only 59.3% of the kinetic wind energy can be used to spin the turbine and generate electricity. Remember this is a theoretical limit; in practice, you’re going to be closer to 40%.
The Power in Wind equation is given as:
P = 1/2 x ρ x A x V³
With:
P = power in Watts
ρ = air density (kg/m³, at about 1.2 at sea level)
A = Swept area of the blades (m²)
V = Velocity of the wind
So, no matter how good your turbine is, you will get in practice at most 40% of the wind energy converted to electricity. To capture the wind energy in the first place, you have two variables to increase (one in your control, the other not): swept area and wind velocity. The smaller you make the turbine, the faster you need to spin to make any meaningful energy. The only variable you control is the swept area, which means making the blades as big as possible.
Note that the velocity is cubed in that equation, so you’ll generate much, much less power at low wind speeds.
In other words, small wind turbines don’t work except in ideal situations (think wide open plains with constant high wind) because physics.
Exactly. I wish there were consumer available large turbines. Would be much more effective than these small units.
@@WillProwseHave you seen this guys stuff? the only dude that made sense of wind for me, and he's got the details.$300 or less wind turbines that kick butt. Let me know what you think. He has solutions for low wind, high wind scenarios, and links to what he's buying and how to wire up. It's not as simple as I thought. Lots of quirks to wind power for the average Joe like me. th-cam.com/video/QSfWnIscDTM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bw59zMEmkV8DzFqF
@@WillProwse there are but costly 😊
@upnorthandpersonal turbulence from obstructions is the issue with these low-to-the-ground installations, your turbine needs to be twice the height of any obstruction within 100 yards (metres) or more & at least 30 feet (10 metres) off the ground 😢
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If you want a wind turbine to power an entire home that has a typical 100-200 amp service panel, you need to go Big AND Tall.
To do that, you'll need at least ~2 acres of preferably Clear Land with only low-lying foliage, trees, or nearby structures.
Simply take a look at any commercially installed wind turbine farm! They are always in relatively wide open areas and are all on tall enough towers to operate in the "clean linear airflow" that is well above the turbulence from the ground effect, well above any nearby trees/buildings/structures.
For every 10 feet or so in additional tower and turbine height, the wind potential increases exponentially.
However,.even on clear, flat land, you will not approach a worthwhile or suitable efficiency potential for positive power generation with turbine heights below ~60ft above ground level.
If you are still interested, look into the Bergey Excel 10kw+ wind turbines. These are simple, direct-drive systems and have a 21 ft to 23 ft blade diameter depending on which blades are mounted.
I live on 5 acres in one of the high-desert areas of California that has only low-lying Junipers and Joshua/Yucca trees, and only a few scattered tall pines less than 60ft tall.
My Bergey Excel turbine is mounted atop a 100ft guyed-lattice tower on a high point of the property, as well as in a clear, open area. Consistent wind is common here, but we do have some days with dead wind/no wind, particularly during the fall months.
However, the turbine needs just 6-7mph of wind to start, and at the 100ft elevation, this wind speed is quite common even when there is a barely perceptible breeze at ground level.
Even during a calm day and in the calmness of the evening hours with a barely perceptible breeze at ground level, it will consistently spin at a low whirr that is fast enough to engage the inverter and provide usable power, and will typically spin consistently at a moderate rate all night long.
The Bergey Excel turbines have a built-in auto-furling mechanism attached to the tail wind vane, as well as a cable with a simple crank system at the base of the tower to engage the furling system in the event of consistently high winds above 85+ mph. IIRC, the system is safety rated for up to 120+ mph winds.
This system provides up to 135% of our required power for an active 1,900 SQ FT, 3-bed/2-bath home, which includes a 650 SF detached woodshop & machine shop.
It has been installed since 2007 and paid for itself in roughly 7 years. It is a simple direct-drive alternator/generator with no gearbox, so the only basic maintenance needed is replacement of the front and rear sealed shaft bearings and the pivot bearing.
It's very dusty here in the high desert as opposed to the prairies/grasslands, and unfortunately this contributes to a bit shorter bearing life.
In addition, for dusty environments, they use a clear protective tape on the front & leading edges of each laminated fiberglass blade to prevent deterioration from the "sand-blasting" effect of the rotors cutting through the dust-filled air.
Depending on UV/precipitation/ice/snow/heat/cold/dust exposure, this protective film needs to be replaced every 5-10 years, which has been performed twice so far at the cost of ~$350 each time. $150 of that was a flat rate tower-climbing fee, then about 1.25 hours labor to replace the film on all 3 blades.
The bearings needed replacement in late 2022 at the cost of $560 with installation labor.
However, we offset these costs and also supplemented our monthly & annual income by leasing our tower to T-Mobile cellular.
They installed cellular repeater antennas to the tower which are powered by T-taps into the turbine's power wires that then feed into their own small inverter, power supply, and backup battery mounted on the tower with the cellular antennas.
Cellular antennas are relatively directional or "hyper-cardioid" in dispersion in the horizontal plane, and even more directional in the vertical plane. We requested that none of the antennas be pointed in any proximity towards our home, and they complied.
Even with this added power draw, the turbine still produces an average monthly excess of 15% to 30% above & beyond our needs.
When the system was installed in 2007 it cost roughly $51k. However, at that time there were combined Federal, State, and local utility company Rebates which cut the total out-of-pocket cost basically in half to just $26k.
For the area we live in, the wind turbine system was more efficient and more cost-effective than an equivalent output system using solar PV panels...and we have PLENTY of sunshine here.
A good part of that efficiency is the potential for the wind turbine system to produce power 24/7, as well as being less subject to seasonal changes in sun exposure times, and not being affected by snowfall or other PV panel obstructions.
Since the system's installation in 2007, we have never paid a power bill, and in fact, for about half of that time and continuing to this day, we have a net positive income from the system.
For anyone that may be curious, since its installation in 2007, we have never witnessed or experienced any type of bird strike or bird fatality due to the wind turbine, and I can guarantee that we have a plethora of all types of birds in this area!
However, it's possible that the local coyotes or other predators (including road-runners/hawks/raptors/owls/golden eagles) have removed any of this evidence before we've had the chance to see it. So this isn't definitive.
However, I CAN say that we have witnessed MANY a birds' demise due to the hunting of the above-mentioned natural predators, completely unrelated to the wind turbine, so there's that.
Unfortunately, the trial "wind turbine system installation" demonstrated in this video was an exercise in failure from the very beginning due to lack of research and understanding of the conditions & requirements that need to be met before even considering such a project and installation.
Even an ornamental windmill will fail to consistently spin when surrounded by wildly turbulent ground-effect air. In fact, the position where their turbine was mounted on the corner of the shipping container was potentially the worst possible place for it. :/
A basic study in fluid dynamics and airflow/air currents around & over common building structures would have revealed this.
Updrafts, downdrafts, vortexes, and turbulence are no friends to a wind turbine! :/
"Off Grid Power"
It's a good thing those trees are there to slow the wind from punishing your home. Hopefully they're all healthy and stay rooted. Thanks for sharing!
It won't work as you think its going to. All those trees attenuate the wind. You need a tower that rises well above them. Also its just plain windier up there anyway as the ground slows it down.
Also do not mount it on your house. Turbines vibrate and make noise that you don't want conducting into your house.
Get one of the books by Paul Gipe on the subject.
Just been recommended as a watch, and have to say the work you've both put in isawesome, not afraid to get your hands dirty, and you're very relaxing to watch
☹ You will have to heat and cool the trailer so the battiers don't get to hot in the summer or to cold in the winter. The power out put of one wind generator wont do the job. I did like your install it was a good job.
NGL i absolutely love that LIKE MYSELF you not only wear a welding HELMET but also a respirator ! GOOD JOB . all you need now is a NECK BIB and youre set to WELD THE WORLD TOGETHER!
earned a sub
also side note ... youre gonna need at least 4 or 5 of those turbines just to keep a 100watt bulb lit for 24 hrs off that battery. Im very well versed at off-grid setups if you ever need a hand let me know (electrical & structural engineer )
@@davejack8973it doesn't matter how many turbines if they're surrounded by trees 😂
Noise is a big factor. Keeping the generator as far away from the house would be my recommendation.
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Hello and thank you!! 😊
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I own a Vatrer battery, got it for my RV. Works great and has low temp cutoff with a built in heater. Perfect Nor-Cali.
Maybe think about some Locktite on those bolts for the wind turbine - again, vibrations will loosen them over time. Keep in mind, heat is the enemy of electronics. Don't put that heater next to your electronics, please! There are towers you can self-raise to get your turbine higher. You can push it up from below so you don't have to have a super-high reach with ladders. Ms/Mrs. Pacific Pines Ranch, I think you probably need a license for the level of cuteness you hit in this video!
Thanks for the tips! I'll keep that in mind! 😊
OFF GRID POWER #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS Good content. Hope to learn from your experiences. Quality battery storage is a "no-brainer" because many different forms of energy can be used to supply it. I aim to rely less on the grid and wind and solar are very promising in the Texas Panhandle so that is the route I plan to take. Experience is the best teacher y'all and I hope all works out well for you.
I’m in the process of building an electric tractor. Thanks for introducing me to the vatrer website.
I just started watching your shows I totally inspire them I've been homeless a couple times this past year due to health issues and my car catching on fire. Maybe this is my luck chance of getting better hope I win lol. Sorry about the spelling any punctuation my phone is cracked also and I can't mash no punctuation buttons hardly
OFF GRID POWER #VATER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS I have been looking at this exact battery for my off grid project. Thank you for showing the wind option. We have been interested in its possibilities on our windy hill.
Amazing. Very usefull information, great video I just loved. My best wishes for you from Costa Rica , can wait to see more videos like this in your channel.
if you can get an old radio tower for cheap - thos old triangular towers that use some guy wires to support them - 100 feet up there may be better wind result.
great vid, thanks for putting all the work into it and filming - we know this takes a ton of extra effort.
That's one hell of a beautiful thumbnail. I'm constantly captivated by people that resemble someone else and obsessed until I figure out who it is. You were kind of easy and straightforward. Probably a little before your time but you really remind me of an actress from the 1980s named Sean Young. I just googled her and yes, yes you do. You're welcome. 🤭
Yah i have been resurching wind power alot and the way it says you kind of have to have 20 mph wind ona regular basis or it wont charge the batteries. than toget it high enough it is recomended you have atleast a acre of land in introupted by trees that is just so you dont have to go to high but than the cost of the platforms and wires to get it to work may cost triple the wind turbine cost as hidden costs.. than still its dependent on 20 mph wind inorder to register a charge on the generator or battery back up power even as a trickle.
I have a wind break i am in nebraska and even though i have a acre it may not be windy enough.. Your videos are very helpfull and futher direct my resurch in the pros and cons of wind power over solar.. still think it may be viable on cold windy days when we just dont ge solar power. keep up the good work i am learning one way or the other. thank you.
Thank you for the great insight!! 😊 We are on the learning path as well lol
Great video as always... Something to consider adding is a safety feature for Wind Turbans and that's a Wind Break, Google it. What a wind break is, is a way for the turban to be controlled if it's getting too much wind. It's typically resistors, like a heating element, that the energy is diverted too so it won't overcharge the battery, despite the BMS. Also it's a way to cut power from the Wind Turban too. Seems to me that a bridge rectifier needs to be added as well to control the amount of energy the Turban can produce. And something about Phase seems to ring a few bells that I think the Bridge Rectifier aids with too. Typically I've seen the Bridge Rectifier attached to the 3 leads that leave the turban then a different wire is added after that, but I'm sure you can add one inside near the Battery too. I seem to recall an issue with connecting the Turban directly to the battery. I could be wrong, and things may have changed, it's been a few years since last I researched Wind Turbans so take my comment with a huge grain of Salt... Good luck with your project, I look forward to seeing what you get into next...
Good job🎉
I would attach the Windvane to a top of a tree. Saw the top off to get a flat pad.
Create a bucket like metal base to cover the tree top with pre drilled holes.
Love the video, and your house is looking absolutely sensational ! ❤❤🙏💪✝️☮️🍀🌹.
Good luck to everyone in this giveaway and God bless.
New sub here remote rural off grid Australia solar and wind , am trialling a small wind turbine at the moment have a 24V setup with a separate 12V battery bank for led system for house lighting. So far I have found that the small wind turbine keeps my batteries topped up at night hence supporting battery life , may get a more expensive one but have figured out that wind turbine alone would not provide me with my power requirements, unless I spent an very large pile of money. Great upload will follow your channel with interest.
i've seen really massive foundations being laid for smaller wind turbines relative to their size.
the constant vibration, the pressure generated by the wind and so on can cause problems over an extended period of time.
But it is still a great project, wish you all the best.
Hello! Use a longer pillar to lift wind turbine above trees! I hope you shall get wind from all directions! Best wishes!
A lot of those little wind turbines have electromagnetic brakes by way of shorting the cables. That could be why it's not spinning much at all.
I would try disconnect the bridge rectifier (turn the breakers off), then measure continuity with a multi meter to ensure there are no shorts between each of the 3 phases coming from the turbine. Also see if it spins more when it's open circuit. See if you can spin the blades manually, they should spin freely when the battery is disconnected. You may also need to install a charge regulator between the battery and the generator if you haven't already.
Consequently, once it's up and running, if you need to access the wind turbine for maintenance and it's spinning, short out at least two of the phases and it should stop it spinning for safer access :) You can do this by adding another breaker / switch across two or more of the phases.
Thx for all the tips and advice!! I appreciate it 😊
This is the first wind-turbine installation video for off-grid i watched and i must say, quite interesting. Subbed!
I like LiFePo4 batteries ... got 200Ah 13.2V system with 12V output ( 20A fuse ) for charging cell phones or small car inverters (60W ) and 3000W pure sinewave inverter for anything else . I build it for power outages ( we had 3hrs no power one night , I connected cord to power bar for tv and internet and lights while neighbor hood was all dark ).
Pretty awesome job challenging so wonderful. Keeping on working , you both have a complish and a great 👍
Thank you so much!!!
I have the same unite, however due to sickness it's stay in the box for years. , I really enjoyed your video,
I like this idea of solar power. I hope my family and my neighbors can make something similar to do a clean energy environment.
God bless you guys. Keep making the difference on the world 🌎
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Wind turbines are nice I live on a sailboat I have 400 w solar panel and to a 200 watt wind turbine and for my needs and use on my 34 ft sailboat it works great
"OFF GRID POWER" AKA Pacific Pines Ranch, it's interesting that you could not get the wind to cooperate with the turbine and the #VATRER battery. The reason I moved inland from the Oregon coast was to get away from the wind! I hope the #VATRERGIVEAWAYS goes well. Thanks for the video.
Nice . I like to get one here. The wind blows evey day here in Nova Scotia
You might consider having an expert climb the tallest tree near your home and toping it so your can mount the wind generator up at the tops of trees for better performance,. Even consider topping the closest trees around your wind generator help clear wind access for the wind generator. Nice video.
#Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways I taught myself about LiFpo battery packs and BMS recently, (before seeing this video), while converting an automobile from gasoline to electric. 144 volt system. A farmer I know could use this kind of set up to run his off grid electric fence and water well pump. Good work Pacific Pines!
alot of ppl are new to DC-volt power thanks to alot of factors around the world .. me, i am trying to learn it to run a shade house.
sadly the groups im in over the last few years are giving me the same basic info that i already know as its not rocket science, but honestly teh Voltage and type of wiring used is, for a better and safer use.
i can see the set up you have used, pause the video and draw it down, but not really sure why used a larger classed wire connected from turbine to were ever they go.
a end or mid schematic in vids , i may start asking this on most DC now as it been helpful in some, and why certain grades used are better.. so people dont set fire to their stuff.. which i have personally seen in utilities .. cuase it shorted out or over heated the wrong size connection or bad crimp
vids chill, cozy and clearly keep it up
Thank you for sharing your off-grid journey. Your description and videography are excellent! Cheers from NC! 🙂
Looks like a great system, I am in the process of trying to put together a solar and wind system. Thanks for the video.
OFF GRID POWER #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS, This video was long overdue.....i love the setup and will be going off grid at some point. Keep it up!
I have just found this channel. I'm very interested in what you are doing. Looking forward to seeing your next video.
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I did wonder why you were fitting a turbine in somewhere sheltered by tree's. Where i live is perfect with no obstacles other than a few trees around the house. 🤔💚💛❤️ You can get more efficient blades. Look at the one that looks like a spiral. It can be used at any angle 💚👍
Interesting to see this setup. Thanks for all your great videos.
Just a thought from a DIYer myself, but you should probably have put a flat plate on the post and welded it on to prevent water from getting in where the holes are around the base of the turbine unit. The post being hollow, I would have ran the power through it and not outside attached with zip tie cords. A removeable access panel that clips in place would be sufficient. Just my 2 cents.
Hola, saludos desde Barcelona. Un vídeo muy instructivo 👏👏👏👏
If you triangulate supports from the two set points next to each other and the one directly across from them , you would be able to raise the windmill up into the air quite a bit. Using the extra box steel would be perfect! A nice solar array could accompany it as well 😊❤! The combination of that along with a generator and battery 🔋 bank would probably meet your needs. Hopefully lol 😆
The higher you get it, the stronger the wind. 🌬️ 💨
Believe it or not you’ll still get some solar energy during the winter months as well! ☀️ Are you considering a split level heat pump? Just curious 😅 If I haven’t mentioned it before you are a gifted welder and I am totally jealous lol 😂! I have tried and tried. I was in factory maintenance for years and still I don’t have the nice dime rolls you do! It’s refreshing to see a couple determined to make it all work! My parents have a large propane tank that powers their generator as a backup for the grid. Best of luck!
Good looking battery, it's recommended to setup a 51,2 volt battery to work with a 51,2 volt charge controller and inverter. By using it in a 48 vdc setup will have battery constantly run at low voltage.
I like your job, i have one wind turbine and I am learning how to install, thank you to sheared with us.
Fantastic welds!!! Wish I was that good.
So, get a tree climber like deer hunters use. Climb one of those tall pines, cut off a few limbs to make a good opening, attach a small platform, and mount your wind turbine up there. Or, you might be able to build a get an experienced tree climber to do that for you.
To give that turbine the best wind you should get above the tree tops. A simple tower would the right thing to get the turbine up high where the good wind is.
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I am looking into installing solar and battery backup for my home and this was good to see someone starting up too. Keep up the good work.
You may want to consider a few new options. Too either try and put your wind generator at the top of a taller tree and run power lines from it to the house or cutting down some of the trees to get more straight line wind generation. If that works then buy more wind generators and set up a field of wind generators in either series or parallel to increase your amperage to charge your batteries and then add solar to the same area to double dip of the gains to use renewable energy to sustain your energy consumption. The trees that you fall can always be used to warm your place or to create wood & lumber material to build with on future projects because a new homestead will always have needs of new storage or build materials. I enjoy your content.
OFF GRID POWER #VATER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS I have been looking at this exact battery for my off grid project. Thank you for showing the wind option
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First time viewer - Loved the video, well done. I look forward to seeing how well your setup performs.
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Great videos.
I like your channel.
Very interesting and relaxing.
Great info.
Good luck at all you two do.
Usually, a rule of thumb is that the turbine should be 10 meters above the surroundings. In the very best case, you can get 200 watts per square meter of swept area as a maximum. In most cases, don't expect more than 100 watts. Try the Hugh Piggott wind turbine. It is of high quality and perfect for DIY projects.
Thanks for the tips!! Appreciate it 😊
very interesting (and disillusioning) experiment, thanks for sharing 👍 I wonder if a vertical axis would perform better with all the turbulences caused by the trees 🤔
Thanks! I’m hoping to try one of those in the future 😊
Just an idea, supplement your windmill with a water wheel, fed by your rain run-off from your roof!?!! Great video BTW! 😊
I found your site, OFF GRID POWER, fro a TH-cam suggestion. I enjoyed the post. I am looking into battery backups and solar power for emergency backup use. I never considered wind and I was not surprised the little turbine did not perform well. They do not seem to have very good reviews online. I also follow Will Prowse and his TH-cam Channel and am learning so much. Thank you. #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS
Great video and a way to think outside the box (pun intended) for your off-grid power needs. Having a wind turbine is an excellent opinion #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways
Chihuahua!!❤ enjoyed y’all’s video…thanks
Try to glue some plastic to the blades, so that they would be longer, and to the tail as well.
I've noticed that during the worst storms and when there is no solar you'll get gusts at a minimum. Those will not completely charge the battery but will help and if your lucky an on shore breeze will probably fill it . Good luck.
Thank you!! 😊
Thank you guys for your videos, can you find someone to climb a tree and fix your windmill up there? Or buy some used scaffold poles with joiners and keep adding till you get above the trees fixing it to the tree as you go 😂😂.love your new home , you 2 have done so well and isn’t life enjoyable when you are both young enough to enjoy doing the work. Do you get much wild life round there like Bears or Moose? And do you have dogs? Thanks again and good luck. Jon 🇦🇺 West Australia.
Chop-off 4 (or more) tree-tops. Build a platform on those tree-tops.
Put a small tower on the platform (or just use the mast you’re using).
For extra security, run some guy-cables to the trees.
It’s a lot of effort (and money), but it will work.
Good luck.
Might wanna put a lot more weld on that base mount. Maybe a couple of gussets. The top of the box member is a long way away and the moment arm can generate a lot of force.
Nice job with your project. I am currently awaiting a Fablestoryem 10000 watt wind Turbine, to supplement my 640w solar array. I think your building are with in falling distance of tree's. Pick one to mount on wooden beam, wind speed is higher above 50-100ft of ground level. Additionally a ground should be added to your galvanized pole. Solar would help, some panels charge even with cloudy skies. I use RENOGY
Yes threes are nice, but you need to cut some for sunlight for the garden, the solar cells and tanning. Vitamine D
I think the seasonal winds change direction and for six months out of the year your turbine may be productive. Put some solar panels on top of that shipping container and produce electricity year round. I was delighted to learn that battery can output 100 amps continuous as I wish to power a remote workshop and have the ability to use a welder.
Check wind charts for your area. Many of the turbines require a minimum 15mph windspeed. A huge majority of locations don't have enough sustained wind at high enough speeds. Really need to be above the tree line
Blade shape will also help. I would more research into that as well.
Just starting to build my back-up system, this very helpful! Great work!! #VATRER
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