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I had an E46 many years ago. Those plastics in the engine bay were crispier than a freshly opened pack of Arnotts before reaching 100,000kms. Its a piece of junk
What will be the expected depreciation for each of them? Toyota 22% - BMW 46%. I guess that plays a major role on decision making for those looking for a car able the withstand time, or those looking for a sportier spirit. 2 great cars.
Sure for now, but BMW has been consistently good for last couple of years and toyota is having issues with their quality and 6 cly engines(you cant be perfect consistently), not to mention they are no longer economical to buy.
despite the ukraine war, Countless amounts of new bmw x5, x7 and land cruisers are being supplied to Russia indefinitely. You would also see them on the road
The best version of LC300 is 3.5L petrol V6 twin turbo pumping 409 hp which I drive in Dubai. It's has an amazingly refined engine with 0-100 kmph in roughly 6.5 sec. I believe it's not available in AUS, but do check it out.
This might be one of the earlier built versions of the land cruiser. I heard from various showrooms that they did indeed have some quality problems in the earlier batches, which have been addressed now.
I disagree with the winner, iv tested both for a month each on road only to see which one to buy, the petrol engine and the comfort of the land cruiser as well as the 10 speed auto were way better than the x5, not to mention the reliability and the longevity of the japanese are also better than the x5 and knowing full well that at any moment you can easily take the land cruiser for an off road cruise, and for me the land cruiser looks a lot better. And so for these reasons I took the land cruiser without a second thought. But overall good review.
Recent rains in Dubai had so many BMWs stranded in the flooded streets. And guess what, there was not even a single LC in the same situation. This comparison is good for fun, but these 2 vehicles are built for completely different reasons and target segment.
I have owned an X5 4D for the last 11 years. I'm buying a new boat for my retirement and need to tow on road long distance with a heavy load - so have ordered a Landcruiser 300. Also want to do some offroading. The Landcruisers hold their resale much better - I'm looking at about $22k trade-in for the X5 & the equivalent age cruiser would be worth 50 - 60K. Interestingly people say the resale is based on poor reliability as cars age - I have had minimal problems with the X5 over the period I have owned it & still drives very well. Going to miss that nice handling around town though....
Interesting comparison. I bought the US base LC V8 in 2020 and love it for all the rugged and legendary style and durability. I also wanted a performance SUV and bought the smaller X3 in 2021. Love and appreciate them both for different reasons!
Toyota will take you to any where on earth and then bring you back home, german cars will take you just for 2 kilometres and then you have to continue your journey by taxi.
And after 2 years it will be easy to sell the Landcruiser. The BMW not so easy, sure it will find a buyer but the percentage of new price lost will be a lot higher.
Why people think about selling before even buying, an attitude best categorised as defeatist. I’ll say drive responsible, do regular service, use suggest gas/ethanol and any car even Italian can last a decade at least.
looked at both and ended up Getting the X5. Mostly caus we could actually get one. at the time near the start of the year also like the one you tested we have the factory tow package and it tows so well
I like both for very different reasons. I love BMWs, but if I want an off roader I’d get a LandCruiser. If I want a nice daily family car, X5 (with the optional 3rd row) is my choice
@@jeffsteyn7174 the point is that the Sahara ZX is designed to be a mall crawler and not an off roader like every other version of the LC300. So in a way it is. And I kinda agree that it’s silly.
Well as both a BMW and Toyota fanboy, I'd go for the Land Cruiser as the only reason I'd get an SUV is for utility. BMWs should be fun little rwd saloons/coupés, which is what they became renowned for. SUVs have just cheapened and diluted the brand, aimed at people who don't know any better
SUVs make it easier for more developent to be made on the RWD sedans and coupes that we like. Who cares if it ''dilutes'' the brand, as I've never seen anybody complain about that 2 series active tourer that was here a few years back. In Europe, they even have base models with 140HP (118i, 318i), and nobody bats an eyelid. I wouldn't mind if BMW makes 10 more new SUVs, if they can put out a car with the perfection of the F87 M2 and G80 M3
@@andrew22334455the RWD base models are fine, I have a 218i coupe and it's economical but crucially also feels like a BMW should. But they don't need these cheap nasty fwd cars in order to make the higher end stuff. Before they made any SUV they had a good range of M models, and they were much lower in number as a brand than they are now, and yet still accessible
@@awareofvacuity4238 I'm assuming you're talking about the current 218i Grand Coupe (F44)? Hate to tell you, but it's a FWD car that looks like a Kia Cerato. SUVs are a necessary evil. Companies like Porsche would not exist anymore if they didn't make the Cayenne, and then the Macan. I also think that a beast like the X5M is more of a genuine BMW than a rental spec 118i. Either way, it doesn't matter to me, as I have a G20 330i, which I doubt anybody has anything against.
@@andrew22334455 No, I have the F22 coupé. In Britain the 218i with the 1.5L was sold here and it is definitely rwd. Perhaps you're right but for BMW they definitely could have survived without SUVs in my opinion
The fuel economy for the Landcruiser has me confused I get around 8 on the highway and just under 10 in general running around. I just 3500 kilometres towing a 2 tonne van and averaged 14.5 cruising at 100…
Fair enough verdict given as you say the Sahara ZX is "meant to be" the on road model with lower approach and departure angles. But if you ever plan on getting off the beaten track, the LC wins any day of the week for capability and reliability IMO. Having said that, the ZX is a silly car to buy if you don't plan ever going off road.
At 100,000kms, the Landcruiser would have just broken in. The X5 would likely had its gearbox replaced, dashboard lighted up like a Christmas tree a few times and suspension squeeking all over
The Toyota 300 is getting a similar mixed reception to when the 100 series came out. Compared to the 80s series and the Patrol at the time, the 100 was much more road focused with ifs suspension, and cream interiors aimed at the American and Middle Eastern markets. The 100 series was more inline with where Land Rover were going with the Discovery 2 at the time, but kinda disappointing none the less.
Any day LC 300 over X5.We live in a big country, once set for a long journey, you expect to return in time aswell.Basically to travel in my own state I would prefer X5, to travel nation wide or for an international travel where we dont know what terrain and serviceability to expect I would go for LC 300, as the purpose of the journey is not to spend your day offs in a workshop that too in a foreign land.
Andrew St, Piere , 4x4 Guru , has very low opinion for the x5 buyers, but really very low. X5 is goos for taking photos and sharing them on social network. I dont even know why this two were compared, they are totaly different league.
Dynamic driving difference is obvious,in one car(the wafty drunken sailor one)Jacob is hanging onto the panic handle for dear life. I couldn't care less about cars in this price range,a fool and his money,your banter is worth my time thats it.
This was a good comparison of two very different cars, each one is unique and best in class, though I do think the LC ZX is not the best LC version for all round practicality on & off road. Sauce testers missed towing test which is why 8/10 caravan owners choose a LC
Toyota V6 engine is not up to towing, Hot V design is flawed. Bmw with the tow pack is 10 the better tow vehicle, reliable ZF 8 speed an engine combination.. Do some proper research. There is no comparison with these two cars.. A jacked up Camry that is ridiculously overpriced vs a proper SUV built by one of the best car companies in the world. How anyone would spend 150k on that pile of shit is baffling. Toyota fan boys need to wake up
@@lewiev7560maybe not this LC, but everyone knows the “old” Land Cruiser V8 diesel is bassicly the best and most reliable towing car, there’s a saying: you go into the dessert with a Land Rover and a Land Cruiser will het you out
@@thijmenegels7610 but they aren’t that reliable?? Toyota owners just justify all the modifications they require to tow anything substantial… GVM upgrade this GVM upgrade that. The best ones have probably 4 parts that are stock on them when they call them the best tow rigs or the BIG200.. like any car is super reliable and good at something when you modify almost every moving part.. stock out of the box they almost ALL suck. Engines reliable well are they? Have a real look and research. Even your famous 1HDFTE has some issues
No one buys a Landcruiser without off-roading. Even though this is an on road landcruiser, it is still more capable off-roading compared to the BMW. This is definitely for people who go off-road 10%, and onroad 90%.
With the hood flutter, you can actually buy a foam/metal reinforcement that connects under the hood that A. Quiets it down and B. Stops the flutter until you reach like 120+... But I mean, why would you bring a land cruiser over the speed limit? They're not very fast haha. If Im gonna bring a car over the speed limit I'd rather be driving a mini cooper s or a JCW, now those cars are obscenely fun at speed
I think there were some points that I disagree with in the video. For example, the LC won in engines when you only have one engine option but the BMW has many options from tt v8's to i6 options with more power to even a plug in hybrid. Also the rear interior.. that was the base option with just the vents. You can get 4 way climate control and heated and cooled seats in front and back in the x5 too if you spec it. So while the BMW won, since this is an on-road test, it should have won by a bigger margin. Also, wouldn't the x7 be the correct car to compare the LC300 with if you go by physical size?
Good review - don’t know how one could think the Toyota looks better, but to each their own. In terms of reliability, Toyota is the obvious winner, but people have an old perception of BMW’s reliability. Consumer reports in America have BMW as the third most reliable brand after Toyota and Lexus, so credit to BMW in improving a major fault area.
I have owned 3 X5's back to back and they have been very reliable right up to 250kms and beyon and I have worked them hard as tow vehicles - still my first choice of car, as I tell people who ask, find me a better car and ill buy it.
What’s the point of having the warranty when it breaks down consistently during the warranty period? Isn’t that giving owners the fear of the BMW breaking down when they are expected to perform?
@@yslee1401 well, it's a lot nicer on the inside .. it's literally a luxury car vs a less luxurious luxury car, what you give up In reliability you tend to make up for in an effortless drive.
@@yslee1401 typically BMWs are actually reliable until they hit around 100'000km in my experience. (Australian models) My mother's BMW 3 series from 2011 has 150k km on it and it has only broken down once and still drives extremely well with no creaks or anything, it even has an electric convertible hardtop roof that folds into the rear boot. It's had electric issues but they only ever taken 1 day to fix without warranty.. occasional oil leaks but it's usually fixed when it needs to go in for an oil change anyway
I'm a big Toyota fan. Have owned 3. Celica , 120 Series Prado and now a 2015 200 series.Between those 3 vehicles I have driven around 600,000km. (247,000km so far in the cruiser). I have NEVER had a single issue with any of them(nothing). It(they) just keep going without any fuss. Not a single creak or rattle or lead. and yes I have done some serious off road. They had all been regularly serviced. The 200 at a Toyota dealership. the other 2, not necessarily. But they were well maintained. They don't pretend to be(in my opinion) anything other than a well designed, ultra reliable vehicle that is designed to do a range of tasks(day to dating, 4x4ing, Towing, touring(to every corner of Australia) without a fuss. Not designed to be a road car(like X5), they are designed to tow up to 3500kg. Who seriously would tow 3500kg with a vehicle that is held together with a bucked load of spot welds and a few screws(I'm only joking, I'm sure they use hundreds of (self tapping) screws). An interesting Vid, but I just can't see anybody watching this for any other reason than entertainment. ( I did watch it all(almost). Thanks.
Had a uc torana back in the day with a flappy bonnet. The dealer was never able to fix it. A flappy bonnet for 150k would annoy the shit out of me. Wouldnt be able to move past it.
I own the X5 30d as tested and have spent a day withe a Prado and I can tell you that comparison would not have ended well for the Prado. The Prado is a significant compromise
I have a 300 and would only replace it with a LX500. Speaking of which, when the time comes to replace the 300 with an LX500, I would most probably make money on the 300. The latter will not be the case with the X5, though.
Well I have both a BMW 116i and a land cruiser Prado 2.8L diesel turbo. I like both cars, but the Prado wins hands down for me. It's actually faster in a straight line, will go anywhere and is way more comfortable than the BMW by a country mile. Way more room and space inside, better tech, better display 10 inch apposed to the little skinny display in the BMW. The Prado has 360o cameras, terrain camera, anti collision warning, land departure warning, pedestrian and cycle warning, corner collision warning, adaptive adjustable cruise control, and a very nice light blue back lit display and buttons and a fridge in the centre consol. The BMW we have has non of those things. But I use the cars for completely different purposes. The Prado is used for going to ski resorts and driving in snow in winter, camping in summer and going off road when I go do photography in difficult to reach places and for long journeys. The BMW is simply used as a short commuter and for blasting around the mountain roads as it handles way better than the Prado as one would expect. It is also much cheaper to run so good as a daily driver. Two totally different cars for two totally different purposes. I enjoy both cars but in totally different ways.
Ever since this guy DAC for going uphill, I don’t put any weight behind what he says going forward. Buster just reads the brochure. Ladder chassis doesn’t aid ground clearance in any which way sir.
The hood flexes because it’s made of aluminium. Also you pressing the front bumper, and saying it’s shoddy build quality. Pretty much all vehicles have plastic front bumpers. This is simply how all modern cars are built including the X5 which you chose not to press the front bumper in the video. There are regulations and rules that says a cars front bumper have to withstand a bump at low speed and absorb that bump without bending. Also front bumpers have to be compatible with pedestrian crashes.
Just out of curiosity: wouldn´t it be (engine wise) more correct to compare the LC300 with the X5 xdrive 40d, considering that the 40d comes with an actual twin turbo set-up and not the twin scroll set-up? Because then the comparison would be about two 5 seat SUVs with 6-cylinder twin-turbo diesel engines? And then I think the prize-point will also change, since the 40d is somewhat more expensive than the 30d. Otherwise a very cool comparison!!!
Why no comments on the BMW suspension type? Was it the air suspension? Its way comfier and you can raise and lower the car. There is a newer engine for the BMW X5 in Europe with the Mild Hybrid included and produces more HP and Torque (286 and 650). Maybe not available on all markets...
That was the most pointless review I have ever seen. The Sahara ZX & the X5 are two different cars built for different purposes. Whilst the ZX is the "road going model" it definitely is not driver focussed, it's an off-road & tow vehicle. BMW prides itself on driving dynamics, and that still translates to their SUV ranges. Whilst the X5 is big, it's basically a big car/wagon and it has no place being compared to a 4WD. I don't think anyone in the market for an X5 actively drives a Cruiser for comparison, they are more likely to compare it to a GLE. Even the Rangie Sport and Discovery don't really compare to the X5 due to them being luxury off-road models, they compare more to the Sahara ZX. Nice try but anyone with minimal car knowledge knows that the review was highly flawed from the get go.
My 2nd x5. I do like them because mileage is much better and I could find one. I really like four runner but gas mileage and couldn’t find one. Land Cruiser also couldn’t find. Toyota better gas mileage and able to find then woulda been a competitor. Can’t knock x5 though. They are nice
I have both. I prefer the X5 anyway. The BMW technology and comfort is second to none. Don’t get me wrong the Landcruiser is good, but it’s nothing compared to the BMW. The BMW’s technology is unparalleled and is something magical. The Landcruiser is good for off-road, but that is where is excels.
Technology in bmw is something very very recent…. The 2017-2018 bimmers still had the regular instrument gauge and all bmws had cheap quality scratchy plastic interiors. Comfort of Bmw is absolutely trash and that’s widely accepted. I had bmws myself ranging from 1 series to x5; both comfort and tech is not something bmw sells upon
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Good review. Landcruiser is over rated and overpriced. I owned both. BMW X5 is better car if you drive on road. I drive on road 99% of my life. Landcruiser is also good SUV.
I’ll buy x5, here’s why, they’ve topped customer satisfaction for last 4 years in the same list Toyota is 7th place. X5 has b58 straight 6 arguably the best modern engine which is reliable(even new toyota Supra uses it). X5 has Split tailgate when street parked you need less space to open it. Comparatively new infotainment, makes hassle free driving while listening to your wirelessly connected devices, Extended moonroof gives a less cluster phobic experience to second row passengers, cabin insulation, safety and highway cruising. Most importantly we should admit that none of us are taking any of these vehicles on off-roading. No question about selling unless anything breaks. All this BMW being unreliable shit comes from people who do untasteful modifications that can happen to Toyotas too, the difference is the age, income group buying these brands and their driving habits. I had a Honda for 10 years and a BMW for 8, both saved me from multiple small, serious accidents and required no to minimal repairs(good build quality) other than routine services.
Would it be just boring of me to say that if we’re talking on road driving and practicality, then buy neither, save $80k+ and buy a Skoda Superb Wagon 206 ???
Two different cars tho. Comparing them is almost at far. The dynamics and purpose are way different . i love x5 to the bone but like i said two different. SuV will you dip the x 5 on swamps? I guess not. But the LC will do that
If it was my own money I'd go the LC 300 if I could lease it through a business the BMW give it back after 3yeara as they have a habit of turn into break my wallet nce warranty expires
@@yslee1401 tell me again about the bullet proof Toyota engines that are breaking by the thousands in Australia. Or the diesel particulate filters that are bricking engines on the side of the road and catching fire. Or the diesel emissions scandal that is now rocking the country. Toyota is antiquated garbage that is riding on the brand name alone….
@@videos1332 perhaps you are OK with the lies presented by Volkswagen about how green their diesel engines are. These German Teutonic manufacturers are a bunch of conmen that think they could get away with murder
yeah these two cars dont belong in the same video, its got nothing to do with fan boys they are completely different vehicles.... No it is not the same in any means
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Japanese luxury brands like Toyota’s Lexus, Acura and Mazda outperform BMW in Quality & Reliability the Land Cruiser made for Asian extreme Sandstorms in Middle East Iran and Saudi and Extreme Floods in Asian countries not for Perfectly asphalt roads of Australia.
engine should get at least 2 points because of the reliability that the bmw can not even compete with also the reason the interior trim is loose is so it can move when you hit rough roads so that it doesn't crack or break after miles of rough country roads. That bmw at the end of the day is going to be an absolutely terrible car out of melbourne or sydney. up the toyota lc300
In general, Japanese cars have better engine and transmission durability, but they don't even come close to German cars in terms of non-mechanical parts quality and design, and paint quality.
Parts quality? I had a E46 before. Those plastics in the engine bay became brittle after less than 5 years/100,000kms. Engine oil, coolant & power steering fluid dripping all over my garage floor. What a piece of crap
There is a huge difference in refinement and the drive. Even Lexus is still trying to imitate Germans and lacks behind. Infotainmentsin Japanese cars are no where close to Germans. BMW is a better car, period. But for someone who plans to keep his car May be for 10 years, Toyota could be a better deal
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LC300 is an offroader whilst X5 is a softroader
And both of them will only see Suburban / Urban areas
Clearly mentioned in the vid the LC they’re using is the “Sahara” edition which is meant to be a softroader
@@kenchan530 There are two Sahara's the Sahara & the Sahara ZX. I don't think anyone will be likely to buy the ZX.
@@jerryfrench2981 No matter which Land Cruiser people buy, most of them will never take it off road.
As someone who owned a 2013 X5 which lasted about 2 years without a problem and then everything went wrong, never again BMW.
I had an E46 many years ago. Those plastics in the engine bay were crispier than a freshly opened pack of Arnotts before reaching 100,000kms. Its a piece of junk
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What will be the expected depreciation for each of them? Toyota 22% - BMW 46%. I guess that plays a major role on decision making for those looking for a car able the withstand time, or those looking for a sportier spirit. 2 great cars.
That’s a point. Also you will not keep BMW 7-10 years. Problems a coming after That time.
Sure for now, but BMW has been consistently good for last couple of years and toyota is having issues with their quality and 6 cly engines(you cant be perfect consistently), not to mention they are no longer economical to buy.
a lot of X5 in stock and currently offering 18~20k discount, while LC300 is about 18months waiting and no discount at all
That says it all
LC is indefinitely delayed.
Where are these -$20k X5’s?
Because the new 2024 is coming out soon.
despite the ukraine war, Countless amounts of new bmw x5, x7 and land cruisers are being supplied to Russia indefinitely. You would also see them on the road
I would have thought the X7 was more comparable due to size
Same
I love driving the X5 but I would get the LC300 as a family car.
Why?
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The best version of LC300 is 3.5L petrol V6 twin turbo pumping 409 hp which I drive in Dubai. It's has an amazingly refined engine with 0-100 kmph in roughly 6.5 sec. I believe it's not available in AUS, but do check it out.
yes it is available in US, but in form of Lexus LX 600
@@Ov3RFLoW88Average american
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As much as the LC300 is tweaked for on-road comfort it still allows Off-Road modification.... i love it for being so versatile while offering luxury🔥
Bro land cruiser can last you for 20+ years if you want to drive it but bmw is only good for 5 years.
But the question is do you drive the damn donkey for 20 yrs?? 😂😂
@@raghavshankara5601you’re a donkey 😂
This might be one of the earlier built versions of the land cruiser. I heard from various showrooms that they did indeed have some quality problems in the earlier batches, which have been addressed now.
I disagree with the winner, iv tested both for a month each on road only to see which one to buy, the petrol engine and the comfort of the land cruiser as well as the 10 speed auto were way better than the x5, not to mention the reliability and the longevity of the japanese are also better than the x5 and knowing full well that at any moment you can easily take the land cruiser for an off road cruise, and for me the land cruiser looks a lot better. And so for these reasons I took the land cruiser without a second thought. But overall good review.
Recent rains in Dubai had so many BMWs stranded in the flooded streets. And guess what, there was not even a single LC in the same situation. This comparison is good for fun, but these 2 vehicles are built for completely different reasons and target segment.
I have owned an X5 4D for the last 11 years. I'm buying a new boat for my retirement and need to tow on road long distance with a heavy load - so have ordered a Landcruiser 300. Also want to do some offroading. The Landcruisers hold their resale much better - I'm looking at about $22k trade-in for the X5 & the equivalent age cruiser would be worth 50 - 60K. Interestingly people say the resale is based on poor reliability as cars age - I have had minimal problems with the X5 over the period I have owned it & still drives very well. Going to miss that nice handling around town though....
Interesting comparison. I bought the US base LC V8 in 2020 and love it for all the rugged and legendary style and durability. I also wanted a performance SUV and bought the smaller X3 in 2021. Love and appreciate them both for different reasons!
Toyota will take you to any where on earth and then bring you back home, german cars will take you just for 2 kilometres and then you have to continue your journey by taxi.
German Teutonic vehicles keeps Tow Truck operators and Roadside assist people employed. Das Auto
And that Taxi will probably be a Toyota!
Driving play a greater role in reliability, easy to blame the car where drivers are the problem.
If i needed a car for 2 years i would go for the BMW if i needed a car for longer than 2 years i will go for the Toyota!
BMW has extended the warranty to 5 years. And new car buyers tend to change the car after 3-5 years.
And after 2 years it will be easy to sell the Landcruiser. The BMW not so easy, sure it will find a buyer but the percentage of new price lost will be a lot higher.
@@billybob1511 Driving a lc300 is like a driving a truck. If you drive on paved roads on most times, it is silly owning the lc300.
@@EastWood2004 Agreed
Why people think about selling before even buying, an attitude best categorised as defeatist. I’ll say drive responsible, do regular service, use suggest gas/ethanol and any car even Italian can last a decade at least.
You can't compare Mike Tyson with Mr. Bean.
looked at both and ended up Getting the X5. Mostly caus we could actually get one. at the time near the start of the year also like the one you tested we have the factory tow package and it tows so well
I like both for very different reasons. I love BMWs, but if I want an off roader I’d get a LandCruiser. If I want a nice daily family car, X5 (with the optional 3rd row) is my choice
Buy that's the thing. They not comparable. They made for different situations
@@jeffsteyn7174 the point is that the Sahara ZX is designed to be a mall crawler and not an off roader like every other version of the LC300. So in a way it is. And I kinda agree that it’s silly.
Well as both a BMW and Toyota fanboy, I'd go for the Land Cruiser as the only reason I'd get an SUV is for utility. BMWs should be fun little rwd saloons/coupés, which is what they became renowned for. SUVs have just cheapened and diluted the brand, aimed at people who don't know any better
SUVs make it easier for more developent to be made on the RWD sedans and coupes that we like. Who cares if it ''dilutes'' the brand, as I've never seen anybody complain about that 2 series active tourer that was here a few years back. In Europe, they even have base models with 140HP (118i, 318i), and nobody bats an eyelid.
I wouldn't mind if BMW makes 10 more new SUVs, if they can put out a car with the perfection of the F87 M2 and G80 M3
@@andrew22334455the RWD base models are fine, I have a 218i coupe and it's economical but crucially also feels like a BMW should. But they don't need these cheap nasty fwd cars in order to make the higher end stuff. Before they made any SUV they had a good range of M models, and they were much lower in number as a brand than they are now, and yet still accessible
@@awareofvacuity4238 I'm assuming you're talking about the current 218i Grand Coupe (F44)? Hate to tell you, but it's a FWD car that looks like a Kia Cerato.
SUVs are a necessary evil. Companies like Porsche would not exist anymore if they didn't make the Cayenne, and then the Macan.
I also think that a beast like the X5M is more of a genuine BMW than a rental spec 118i. Either way, it doesn't matter to me, as I have a G20 330i, which I doubt anybody has anything against.
@@andrew22334455 No, I have the F22 coupé. In Britain the 218i with the 1.5L was sold here and it is definitely rwd. Perhaps you're right but for BMW they definitely could have survived without SUVs in my opinion
If your definition of fun includes calling roadside assist & tow truck operators all the time, I would say go for BMW
The fuel economy for the Landcruiser has me confused I get around 8 on the highway and just under 10 in general running around. I just 3500 kilometres towing a 2 tonne van and averaged 14.5 cruising at 100…
You're probably not giving it the Sauce tho and driving it like a sensible driver
No I know it is the skinny pedal on the right.
Fair enough verdict given as you say the Sahara ZX is "meant to be" the on road model with lower approach and departure angles. But if you ever plan on getting off the beaten track, the LC wins any day of the week for capability and reliability IMO. Having said that, the ZX is a silly car to buy if you don't plan ever going off road.
I agree with you. Also I don’t see what Lexus is thinking when they sell the 200k lx600. Do they want to be like G400d?
At 100,000kms, the Landcruiser would have just broken in. The X5 would likely had its gearbox replaced, dashboard lighted up like a Christmas tree a few times and suspension squeeking all over
@@EastWood2004 They ate better.
BMWs will now automatically indicate after the company gave up on trying to get the owners to use the indicators.
The Toyota 300 is getting a similar mixed reception to when the 100 series came out. Compared to the 80s series and the Patrol at the time, the 100 was much more road focused with ifs suspension, and cream interiors aimed at the American and Middle Eastern markets. The 100 series was more inline with where Land Rover were going with the Discovery 2 at the time, but kinda disappointing none the less.
Any day LC 300 over X5.We live in a big country, once set for a long journey, you expect to return in time aswell.Basically to travel in my own state I would prefer X5, to travel nation wide or for an international travel where we dont know what terrain and serviceability to expect I would go for LC 300, as the purpose of the journey is not to spend your day offs in a workshop that too in a foreign land.
Love the comparison video (although the repetitive.scoreboard shots dragged on)!
You forgot reliability mate.
BMW has decent reliablity and Toyota reliability is not free, it is overpriced at least 50%
TOYOTA!! There is no substitute.........
this is like comparing chalk and cheese
Combined makes a delicious sandwich 🥪
Andrew St, Piere , 4x4 Guru , has very low opinion for the x5 buyers, but really very low.
X5 is goos for taking photos and sharing them on social network. I dont even know why this two were compared,
they are totaly different league.
Dynamic driving difference is obvious,in one car(the wafty drunken sailor one)Jacob is hanging onto the panic handle for dear life.
I couldn't care less about cars in this price range,a fool and his money,your banter is worth my time thats it.
Forget both POS's and buy a Y62 Patrol instead. V8 power and a real 4WD in one!
After Renault & Carlos Ghosn, Nissan is perpetually crippled
If you can put up with the worst interior in history.
What do you guys prefer - LC300 or X5? 😅
The Patrol.
Bentley Bentayga.
Lc300 Gr
If money is not an issue buy German for sure
Land cruiser competes with the x 7 not x5
This was a good comparison of two very different cars, each one is unique and best in class, though I do think the LC ZX is not the best LC version for all round practicality on & off road. Sauce testers missed towing test which is why 8/10 caravan owners choose a LC
Toyota V6 engine is not up to towing, Hot V design is flawed. Bmw with the tow pack is 10 the better tow vehicle, reliable ZF 8 speed an engine combination.. Do some proper research. There is no comparison with these two cars.. A jacked up Camry that is ridiculously overpriced vs a proper SUV built by one of the best car companies in the world. How anyone would spend 150k on that pile of shit is baffling. Toyota fan boys need to wake up
@@lewiev7560maybe not this LC, but everyone knows the “old” Land Cruiser V8 diesel is bassicly the best and most reliable towing car, there’s a saying: you go into the dessert with a Land Rover and a Land Cruiser will het you out
@@thijmenegels7610 but they aren’t that reliable?? Toyota owners just justify all the modifications they require to tow anything substantial… GVM upgrade this GVM upgrade that. The best ones have probably 4 parts that are stock on them when they call them the best tow rigs or the BIG200.. like any car is super reliable and good at something when you modify almost every moving part.. stock out of the box they almost ALL suck. Engines reliable well are they? Have a real look and research. Even your famous 1HDFTE has some issues
No one buys a Landcruiser without off-roading. Even though this is an on road landcruiser, it is still more capable off-roading compared to the BMW. This is definitely for people who go off-road 10%, and onroad 90%.
With the hood flutter, you can actually buy a foam/metal reinforcement that connects under the hood that A. Quiets it down and B. Stops the flutter until you reach like 120+... But I mean, why would you bring a land cruiser over the speed limit? They're not very fast haha.
If Im gonna bring a car over the speed limit I'd rather be driving a mini cooper s or a JCW, now those cars are obscenely fun at speed
I think there were some points that I disagree with in the video. For example, the LC won in engines when you only have one engine option but the BMW has many options from tt v8's to i6 options with more power to even a plug in hybrid. Also the rear interior.. that was the base option with just the vents. You can get 4 way climate control and heated and cooled seats in front and back in the x5 too if you spec it. So while the BMW won, since this is an on-road test, it should have won by a bigger margin. Also, wouldn't the x7 be the correct car to compare the LC300 with if you go by physical size?
Good review - don’t know how one could think the Toyota looks better, but to each their own.
In terms of reliability, Toyota is the obvious winner, but people have an old perception of BMW’s reliability. Consumer reports in America have BMW as the third most reliable brand after Toyota and Lexus, so credit to BMW in improving a major fault area.
Reliable means not spending make it reliable reliable means no need spend make it reliable
I have owned 3 X5's back to back and they have been very reliable right up to 250kms and beyon and I have worked them hard as tow vehicles - still my first choice of car, as I tell people who ask, find me a better car and ill buy it.
If I get a nice warranty with the BMW id get that and sell it once it runs out. The Toyota barely needs the warranty lmao
What’s the point of having the warranty when it breaks down consistently during the warranty period? Isn’t that giving owners the fear of the BMW breaking down when they are expected to perform?
@@yslee1401 the point is that I don't have to pay for repairs and I get a loan car too
@@PneumaticFrog but the inconvenience of having to call tow trucks and the time wasted is really not worth it
@@yslee1401 well, it's a lot nicer on the inside
.. it's literally a luxury car vs a less luxurious luxury car, what you give up In reliability you tend to make up for in an effortless drive.
@@yslee1401 typically BMWs are actually reliable until they hit around 100'000km in my experience. (Australian models) My mother's BMW 3 series from 2011 has 150k km on it and it has only broken down once and still drives extremely well with no creaks or anything, it even has an electric convertible hardtop roof that folds into the rear boot. It's had electric issues but they only ever taken 1 day to fix without warranty.. occasional oil leaks but it's usually fixed when it needs to go in for an oil change anyway
I'm a big Toyota fan. Have owned 3. Celica , 120 Series Prado and now a 2015 200 series.Between those 3 vehicles I have driven around 600,000km. (247,000km so far in the cruiser).
I have NEVER had a single issue with any of them(nothing). It(they) just keep going without any fuss. Not a single creak or rattle or lead. and yes I have done some serious off road.
They had all been regularly serviced. The 200 at a Toyota dealership. the other 2, not necessarily. But they were well maintained. They don't pretend to be(in my opinion) anything other than a well designed, ultra reliable vehicle that is designed to do a range of tasks(day to dating, 4x4ing, Towing, touring(to every corner of Australia) without a fuss. Not designed to be a road car(like X5), they are designed to tow up to 3500kg. Who seriously would tow 3500kg with a vehicle that is held together with a bucked load of spot welds and a few screws(I'm only joking, I'm sure they use hundreds of (self tapping) screws). An interesting Vid, but I just can't see anybody watching this for any other reason than entertainment. ( I did watch it all(almost). Thanks.
Had a uc torana back in the day with a flappy bonnet. The dealer was never able to fix it. A flappy bonnet for 150k would annoy the shit out of me. Wouldnt be able to move past it.
You forgot to add expected reliability and re-sale value...The Toyota will win over the X5.
It should've been LC300 vs X7 or Prado vs X5 right?
Agreed
X5 is wider and as long as a 300
I own the X5 30d as tested and have spent a day withe a Prado and I can tell you that comparison would not have ended well for the Prado. The Prado is a significant compromise
I have a 300 and would only replace it with a LX500. Speaking of which, when the time comes to replace the 300 with an LX500, I would most probably make money on the 300.
The latter will not be the case with the X5, though.
Well I have both a BMW 116i and a land cruiser Prado 2.8L diesel turbo. I like both cars, but the Prado wins hands down for me. It's actually faster in a straight line, will go anywhere and is way more comfortable than the BMW by a country mile. Way more room and space inside, better tech, better display 10 inch apposed to the little skinny display in the BMW. The Prado has 360o cameras, terrain camera, anti collision warning, land departure warning, pedestrian and cycle warning, corner collision warning, adaptive adjustable cruise control, and a very nice light blue back lit display and buttons and a fridge in the centre consol.
The BMW we have has non of those things. But I use the cars for completely different purposes. The Prado is used for going to ski resorts and driving in snow in winter, camping in summer and going off road when I go do photography in difficult to reach places and for long journeys. The BMW is simply used as a short commuter and for blasting around the mountain roads as it handles way better than the Prado as one would expect. It is also much cheaper to run so good as a daily driver. Two totally different cars for two totally different purposes. I enjoy both cars but in totally different ways.
Ever since this guy DAC for going uphill, I don’t put any weight behind what he says going forward. Buster just reads the brochure. Ladder chassis doesn’t aid ground clearance in any which way sir.
Is the Landcruiser flapping bonnet a no cost option?
If you had added towing test, results would be different. Luxury, technology and driving dynamics X5 wins, everything else LC will eat it.
Please do a comparison between the v6/v8 Landcruiser and the v8 patrol, I want to learn something from them..
guess you should have compared the LC300 to a BMW X7 to make it much fair that is if we are not considering pricing
That just goes to show that the X5 is way overpriced for its dimension segment
Both class leaders in their own respects.
The hood flexes because it’s made of aluminium. Also you pressing the front bumper, and saying it’s shoddy build quality. Pretty much all vehicles have plastic front bumpers. This is simply how all modern cars are built including the X5 which you chose not to press the front bumper in the video. There are regulations and rules that says a cars front bumper have to withstand a bump at low speed and absorb that bump without bending. Also front bumpers have to be compatible with pedestrian crashes.
Agreed, I must say that the the reviewer is pretty unprofessional in making such a remark without deep diving into the material usage first
closing the engine hood you can hear the difference how BMWs sound more solid
Land cruiser is number one
Just out of curiosity: wouldn´t it be (engine wise) more correct to compare the LC300 with the X5 xdrive 40d, considering that the 40d comes with an actual twin turbo set-up and not the twin scroll set-up? Because then the comparison would be about two 5 seat SUVs with 6-cylinder twin-turbo diesel engines? And then I think the prize-point will also change, since the 40d is somewhat more expensive than the 30d. Otherwise a very cool comparison!!!
We have an x5 30d its the best diesel engine ever! You can hammer around everywhere and only use 9l100m
I like them both. They each have there own personality and purpose.
Why no comments on the BMW suspension type? Was it the air suspension? Its way comfier and you can raise and lower the car. There is a newer engine for the BMW X5 in Europe with the Mild Hybrid included and produces more HP and Torque (286 and 650). Maybe not available on all markets...
BMW x5 is not competition to truth 4wd vehicles !!!!
That was the most pointless review I have ever seen. The Sahara ZX & the X5 are two different cars built for different purposes. Whilst the ZX is the "road going model" it definitely is not driver focussed, it's an off-road & tow vehicle. BMW prides itself on driving dynamics, and that still translates to their SUV ranges. Whilst the X5 is big, it's basically a big car/wagon and it has no place being compared to a 4WD. I don't think anyone in the market for an X5 actively drives a Cruiser for comparison, they are more likely to compare it to a GLE. Even the Rangie Sport and Discovery don't really compare to the X5 due to them being luxury off-road models, they compare more to the Sahara ZX. Nice try but anyone with minimal car knowledge knows that the review was highly flawed from the get go.
I happen to be a fanboy of both BMW and Toyota, so this is exciting for me!
My 2nd x5. I do like them because mileage is much better and I could find one. I really like four runner but gas mileage and couldn’t find one. Land Cruiser also couldn’t find. Toyota better gas mileage and able to find then woulda been a competitor. Can’t knock x5 though. They are nice
There is an "off road" version of the X5, at least in the USA.
I have both. I prefer the X5 anyway. The BMW technology and comfort is second to none. Don’t get me wrong the Landcruiser is good, but it’s nothing compared to the BMW. The BMW’s technology is unparalleled and is something magical. The Landcruiser is good for off-road, but that is where is excels.
Which engine on the X5 if I may?
@@jean-louishamid5285 3.0L diesel
Technology in bmw is something very very recent…. The 2017-2018 bimmers still had the regular instrument gauge and all bmws had cheap quality scratchy plastic interiors. Comfort of Bmw is absolutely trash and that’s widely accepted. I had bmws myself ranging from 1 series to x5; both comfort and tech is not something bmw sells upon
BMW Technology or German Engineering nightmare? Search for Car Ninja in TH-cam
I'm from Ghana and love cars and love to hear people talk about cars. I keep asking myself how you guys manage to afford such cars. I'm in my 30's, telecoms engineer for 8 years and i can't even afford used cars. I really need to understand how i can make this life work. Your advice is needed
Good review. Landcruiser is over rated and overpriced. I owned both. BMW X5 is better car if you drive on road. I drive on road 99% of my life.
Landcruiser is also good SUV.
I’ll buy x5, here’s why, they’ve topped customer satisfaction for last 4 years in the same list Toyota is 7th place. X5 has b58 straight 6 arguably the best modern engine which is reliable(even new toyota Supra uses it). X5 has Split tailgate when street parked you need less space to open it. Comparatively new infotainment, makes hassle free driving while listening to your wirelessly connected devices, Extended moonroof gives a less cluster phobic experience to second row passengers, cabin insulation, safety and highway cruising. Most importantly we should admit that none of us are taking any of these vehicles on off-roading. No question about selling unless anything breaks. All this BMW being unreliable shit comes from people who do untasteful modifications that can happen to Toyotas too, the difference is the age, income group buying these brands and their driving habits. I had a Honda for 10 years and a BMW for 8, both saved me from multiple small, serious accidents and required no to minimal repairs(good build quality) other than routine services.
This comparison is a little bit off but interesting
Please review the LDV eT60
Would it be just boring of me to say that if we’re talking on road driving and practicality, then buy neither, save $80k+ and buy a Skoda Superb Wagon 206 ???
I prefer L300
You should bring a top of line BMW as you did with Land cruiser
He didnt bring a top of the line land cruiser too
The prestigious Landcruiser compared to a cheaply made BMW? No contest. Asian engineering, luxury and reliability always #1.
here in thailand the cruiser is imported from the aussie market so it costs 2-3 million baht more than not x5 but x7
And it’s still much more vehicle than the X7. The LC will last minimum 25 years of abuse meanwhile the BMW will break when new.
@@electrikoptik yeah. German Teutonic vehicles are well known to break down prematurely
X5 depreciates rather like a free-falling stone.
landcruiser will outlive bmw like 3 times at least
Not a fair comparison. Land cruiser should be compared with X7.
They serve different purposes, though. Different beats :)
Good job
It's true though, you did say bareback.
Two different cars tho. Comparing them is almost at far. The dynamics and purpose are way different . i love x5 to the bone but like i said two different. SuV will you dip the x 5 on swamps? I guess not. But the LC will do that
If your car isn't reliable, nothing else matters. Make sure you know where the hazard lights button is, BMW drivers.
If it was my own money I'd go the LC 300 if I could lease it through a business the BMW give it back after 3yeara as they have a habit of turn into break my wallet nce warranty expires
They have changed their warranty. Can get 5 years for bit extra and additional years if you service with bmw
@@SC-ou9gm BMW changed to 5 year warranties in October
Pointless. These German Teutonic vehicles just breaks down indiscriminately. I would rather have these bullet proof Toyota or Lexus for peace of mind
@@yslee1401 tell me again about the bullet proof Toyota engines that are breaking by the thousands in Australia. Or the diesel particulate filters that are bricking engines on the side of the road and catching fire. Or the diesel emissions scandal that is now rocking the country. Toyota is antiquated garbage that is riding on the brand name alone….
@@videos1332 perhaps you are OK with the lies presented by Volkswagen about how green their diesel engines are. These German Teutonic manufacturers are a bunch of conmen that think they could get away with murder
yeah these two cars dont belong in the same video, its got nothing to do with fan boys they are completely different vehicles.... No it is not the same in any means
The land cruiser is definitely over priced. However it does better in depreciation compared to the BMW, which is the king in depreciation
Lease the BMW and get a new one every 3 years, own the LandCruiser for 5+ years.
You should compare the landcruiser with x7 not x5
According to me that lc300 is not overpriced
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thats not fair, ik you wanted to take LC300 over the german king but suddenly your friend told you to take the X5😂😂😁
Japanese luxury brands like Toyota’s Lexus, Acura and Mazda outperform BMW in Quality & Reliability the Land Cruiser made for Asian extreme Sandstorms in Middle East Iran and Saudi and Extreme Floods in Asian countries not for Perfectly asphalt roads of Australia.
That BMW has no business off road, or for a matter of fact.....on road either.
engine should get at least 2 points because of the reliability that the bmw can not even compete with also the reason the interior trim is loose is so it can move when you hit rough roads so that it doesn't crack or break after miles of rough country roads. That bmw at the end of the day is going to be an absolutely terrible car out of melbourne or sydney. up the toyota lc300
In general, Japanese cars have better engine and transmission durability, but they don't even come close to German cars in terms of non-mechanical parts quality and design, and paint quality.
Parts quality? I had a E46 before. Those plastics in the engine bay became brittle after less than 5 years/100,000kms. Engine oil, coolant & power steering fluid dripping all over my garage floor. What a piece of crap
Yep those plastics under the hood are craps
Ha I sold my 200 series and bought an x5 - 12 months in and would never buy a landcruiser again
Good luck selling the X5 when its dashboard lights up like a Christmas tree
There is a huge difference in refinement and the drive. Even Lexus is still trying to imitate Germans and lacks behind. Infotainmentsin Japanese cars are no where close to Germans. BMW is a better car, period. But for someone who plans to keep his car May be for 10 years, Toyota could be a better deal
Why not the x7
Because X7 is priced easily $40k-$50k more. Just goes to show that Teutonic vehicles are way overpriced
I think land cruiser should win
It's not a fair comparison. You should use X7 instead. Even X7 is could not match the King of SUVs, Land Cruiser