This is a video showing the cheapest way to lower an 86 Chevrolet C10 pickup truck by flipping the rear axle installing drop spindles and cutting the front coils
Someone might have mentioned this in the comments already but drilling a new hole in the spring perch, moving the axle back about an inch and a half, would have centered the rear wheels in the fender opening and kept the drive line modification off the table. :)
Around the time you were lowering this, I was un-lowering a squarebody suburban. I had a heck of a time finding stock spindles, ended up using some from a G20 van. Love the videos!!!
To avoid the tire ride cut out a couple inches further back from where its and then add a 1/4" tall of steel to the piece you cut out and weld it back in, you CAN just heat it up and hammer it up out of the way but that looks like hell, by adding metal it just looks cleaner and looks like something the factory might have done.
Don't take this as criticism I enjoy y'all's video content but that is totally the wrong way to measure how much to cut gm coil springs LoL 😂, the proper way is to take them both out then measure with a measurement tape and start from where the coil starts running it around till you get to the number of inches you want to drop it- 1.5 at the coil is 3 inches at the body. That's definitely a creative way to lower the rear and the fix the driveshaft problem never seen it done before that way I was impressed, I wish I knew how to weld lol 😂 Great video other than that keep it up brotha the truck looks great 👍
That's pretty typical for AutoZone to sell you Autolites for a Chevy and to have a missing plug wire lol cool video though and I've never heard of that trick you did to shorten the driveshaft! I'm buying my old 79 squarebody GMC back this weekend and doing pretty much everything you did in this video 💪🏼
I was scared watching you remove the rear springs...I thought they were under pressure and it would spring out...scary...a...oh and Autolite (Ford) plugs in a Chebby!? Champions...I think. If we don't learn anything else from you it's stick-to-it-tiveness and patience. Congrats on the 1 Million views on the tractor!!!
My granddad had a 79 Silverado with a 305, out of 8 Cylinders 5 of them had anti fowlers on the plugs....lol motor was weak as crap and smoked like a train!!! Great memories though!
If you buy a flip kit you dont have to weld new perches, or shorten the drive shaft, and the added bonus of new u bolts, instead of reusing worn out factory u bolts from the 80's
Fuck yeah man! This video was legit exactly how i slammed my 88 s10. Couldn't fit a pack of smokes under the front bumper lip on pavement lmao That truck turned out sweet man!
A long time ago an old friend had an s10 blazer we put a vortec 350 in a lowered it LOW. Had to c notch it. It would wheel hop terribly..... I had 2 nice xjs at the time. One day we were sitting having a drink. And I had an idea. I told him to go to the local offroad shop and get a used set of xj springs. We used the main leaf from the blazer and then used the rest of the xj leafs and was able to rid of the lowering blocks. It never even rode that good stock and it launched great with the xj leaf pack.
I use to run mine with no springs at all on the bumpstops and flip the rear .1/4 steel bent on both ends get welded under the saddle with the hole drilled putting the pin toward the front or you will blow the tailshafts off
@@anthonymccoy8771 i lower trucks as full time job and i see this all the time on these c10s lol i was just guessin they were dropped back in the 80s but now we got full kits 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@@joeroe2839 hi joe , what drop kit do u recommend for a 82 chev short bed ,I want to do a 5/6 drop ,I want to install some staggered 22” AR salt flats wheels ,,what drop kit should I go with and should I do the c notch?
@@robquest6499 I just did a 6-8 drop w a small rake outback ..and yea I recommend a notch if goin that low just incase u fill.up the back w something heavy . I like crown suspension if u on a budget or belltech springs/mcgaughys spindles
How do you line up the pigtail on the coil spring with the D in the crossmember if you cut a coil and a half? Wouldn’t it be misaligned if you cut more then one whole coil increments? Thanks in advance
Man you did a real good job on Lowering the truck man. Man she look real good. For somebody doing it for the first time you did excellent job man. Sleeper dude I have a question man? Is Your town Riceville located off of Interstate 75 down by Chattanooga Tennessee? I did enjoy watching you lowering that truck man.
@@Sleeperdude oh man I just came by you last night on my way to drop a load off and my wife in New Orleans for the hurricane victims. Man I had driven by you so many times. I just drove by you two weeks ago on my way to Alabama when they got hit by the hurricane. Interstate 75 and 40 are my traveling interstate. Man that is so awesome. Man I would love to meet up with you someday that will be so awesome.
Can someone please tell me what is so wonderful about dropping the height of vehicle suspension, when it is set in the factory @ the optimal height for the car/van/pick-up?? They look awful and perform even worse!!! My opinion I know, but yo don't find anything like that in the UK. See you soon (if I can work out the name-changes..... 🤓
Im shocked you didnt cut those front bump stops🤣 but might as well buy new tubluars at that point. Im riding 295/50/15s i cut 2 coils. Im 5.5/6 easily . Looks sick but I need tubulars. I love my tiny rake.. mine doesnt rub at all.
Good job! I am getting ready to do something like this to a 77. I don't want to spend a lot of money on new modified aftermarket parts as recommended by another channel who is sponsored by those parts companies. There is nothing wrong with replacing everything with new modified parts designed for this purpose, 'if' one has the 'much' extra money to buy those parts but money can be a hurdle at times.... It's nice to know it can be done this way. How does the truck ride now? I know you learned a lot by doing this one, this way. If you had it to do over again would you go the same route, or would you recommend going the high dollar new parts way ? I trust your judgement and experience which you have gained 'by doing'! How does the truck ride? I hope you can find time to answer my questions which will be 'very' helpful. PS How is Ralphie's Camaro coming along? Yall are a blessed family. Keep up the good work and God Bless!! Phillip Hall
Did you ever find a wheel and tire combo that didn’t rub top of the wheel well? Just did 2.5” spindle and 3” drop springs on my 82 and having same issue.
Do some slosh tubs look em up , i drop trucks as a full time job and when i go beyond a 5 drop we install those to clear any setup there perfect or take off your innner tubs and ride
Take the fat end of a baseball bat and roll the car truck for forward and backward and let the baseball bat top ride up on the fender well and I’ll push the fender. Well I’ll just enough to get tired of clear.
Sweet video, I’m going to lower mine , long box I got Belltech 6852 kit I’m not notching, I don’t want to ruin the frame. Is it worth lowering does it Ride better?
@@Sleeperdude , Oh yeah , Those two push bars on the front bumper or as I call them broken Teeth , I removed mine from my 78 Chevy Silverado and threw them on the shelf in my garage , it looks so much better and if I ever decide to sell it I will give them to the next owner and if he or she decided to put them back on its their choice , but as for now and it's mine , they are going to stay off , Nice looking truck Sleeperdude
Someone might have mentioned this in the comments already but drilling a new hole in the spring perch, moving the axle back about an inch and a half, would have centered the rear wheels in the fender opening and kept the drive line modification off the table. :)
That’s true thanks
Around the time you were lowering this, I was un-lowering a squarebody suburban. I had a heck of a time finding stock spindles, ended up using some from a G20 van. Love the videos!!!
Oh man we could have traded spindles
Josh glad you didn’t let all the negative BS get to you. Keep being you brother!
Thank you
Great video watched it a few times before I tackled mine. It was super easy after watching this video.
Lowered vehicles are really good for looking at
I cleaned spark plugs 2wice a day just to get to work and get home my 305 was burning oil... So I saved up and bought a new 350 worth every penny .
350 is a much better setup for sure
the most impressive part is that you got those leaf spring bolts out without cutting them lol
Yeah they can be a pain
Thats a great looking truck, i love all the older models.
Right on
I had a similar setup on my 86 long bed For tires, I ran a 245/60/15 in the front and 275/60/15 on 8inch rally rims.
You did a great job! Truck looks awesome.
Thanks
looks great it sits just fine,, I'm going with 6-8,
To avoid the tire ride cut out a couple inches further back from where its and then add a 1/4" tall of steel to the piece you cut out and weld it back in, you CAN just heat it up and hammer it up out of the way but that looks like hell, by adding metal it just looks cleaner and looks like something the factory might have done.
Ok thanks
Dude it sets good. I never knew how to shorten a drive shaft like that 👍-- thanks for the lesson.
No problem thanks for watching
Very nice bro you got lucky I had to buy all new brakes and barrings on my 89 with ruff country drop spendals
If that truck starts to run rough, change the plugs to AC plugs. Autolite is mainly a Ford plug.
Bro that truck looks so good man, I just bought a 81 custom deluxe for restoration keep it up!
Just found this one!! Y'alls videos just pop in out of thin air!😁😂😂😂
That’s funny.. you should go to my channel click on the video button then scroll to see which ones you may have missed!
@@Sleeperdude OKee dokers!
Hey just found your channel enjoyed the tips especially the TSC flip kit... keep the videos coming.
Thanks for the great video , really helps for a newbie.
No problem thanks for watching
Love this video. Truck looks great!!
Thank you
You did a great job!
Breather loos good ... drop spindles are awesome keeps the geometry right with a lowered stance. Love um..
Thanks
The truck looks good. But now it's only good for hauling a half gallon of milk home. Thanks for sharing 😊.
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Good work. Looks good and it's worth a shit load more now than before!
Afro wheel love it that's what I call it too!!!!
Very cool indeed. Nice job.
Thanks again
Don't take this as criticism I enjoy y'all's video content but that is totally the wrong way to measure how much to cut gm coil springs LoL 😂, the proper way is to take them both out then measure with a measurement tape and start from where the coil starts running it around till you get to the number of inches you want to drop it- 1.5 at the coil is 3 inches at the body. That's definitely a creative way to lower the rear and the fix the driveshaft problem never seen it done before that way I was impressed, I wish I knew how to weld lol 😂 Great video other than that keep it up brotha the truck looks great 👍
That's pretty typical for AutoZone to sell you Autolites for a Chevy and to have a missing plug wire lol cool video though and I've never heard of that trick you did to shorten the driveshaft! I'm buying my old 79 squarebody GMC back this weekend and doing pretty much everything you did in this video 💪🏼
I luv it.it looms great
Just bought a 87 c10 for $1300.I also have a long bed on mines but definitely looking to drop it quite a bit
Thanks for the info I got a 77 C10 that I will be doing this setup mine is long bed too 😎😎😎
Awesome
looking good rock on man
Thank you
I was scared watching you remove the rear springs...I thought they were under pressure and it would spring out...scary...a...oh and Autolite (Ford) plugs in a Chebby!? Champions...I think. If we don't learn anything else from you it's stick-to-it-tiveness and patience. Congrats on the 1 Million views on the tractor!!!
That’s funny thank you I appreciate it
Looks great 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice lookin Ol truck. New Subscriber
For those of you who want a real answer, for every 1 inches of free height cut at the spring is two inches at the body.
Ok thanks
My granddad had a 79 Silverado with a 305, out of 8 Cylinders 5 of them had anti fowlers on the plugs....lol motor was weak as crap and smoked like a train!!! Great memories though!
Yeah I am not a fan of a 305
Definitely you did not needed the drop spindles.
looking good bro superdude
Thank you
great video thank you
Thank you for watching
Awesome 👍
Great video! Now go get some air bags and make another video installing them so I see how its done Lol
If you buy a flip kit you dont have to weld new perches, or shorten the drive shaft, and the added bonus of new u bolts, instead of reusing worn out factory u bolts from the 80's
If you he would have just drilled a half inch hole behind the center hole in the new perches you dont have to do anything to the drive shaft.
I just seen this and thank the lord haha I’m lowering my 87 and I didn’t want to shorten the shaft! Thanks!
Did you c notch the rear ? If not … what kind of clearance did you end up with ?
Fuck yeah man!
This video was legit exactly how i slammed my 88 s10.
Couldn't fit a pack of smokes under the front bumper lip on pavement lmao
That truck turned out sweet man!
Thanks.. I love a lowered truck
A long time ago an old friend had an s10 blazer we put a vortec 350 in a lowered it LOW. Had to c notch it. It would wheel hop terribly..... I had 2 nice xjs at the time. One day we were sitting having a drink. And I had an idea. I told him to go to the local offroad shop and get a used set of xj springs. We used the main leaf from the blazer and then used the rest of the xj leafs and was able to rid of the lowering blocks. It never even rode that good stock and it launched great with the xj leaf pack.
You succeeded in lowering the value, that is for sure.
I use to run mine with no springs at all on the bumpstops and flip the rear .1/4 steel bent on both ends get welded under the saddle with the hole drilled putting the pin toward the front or you will blow the tailshafts off
Again that’s stupid riding on the bump stops that will knock parts off
@@anthonymccoy8771 i lower trucks as full time job and i see this all the time on these c10s lol i was just guessin they were dropped back in the 80s but now we got full kits 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@@joeroe2839 hi joe , what drop kit do u recommend for a 82 chev short bed ,I want to do a 5/6 drop ,I want to install some staggered 22” AR salt flats wheels ,,what drop kit should I go with and should I do the c notch?
@@robquest6499 I just did a 6-8 drop w a small rake outback ..and yea I recommend a notch if goin that low just incase u fill.up the back w something heavy . I like crown suspension if u on a budget or belltech springs/mcgaughys spindles
You have a link for the drop spindle
Thanks
How do you line up the pigtail on the coil spring with the D in the crossmember if you cut a coil and a half? Wouldn’t it be misaligned if you cut more then one whole coil increments? Thanks in advance
You can spin the top of the spring in any position to make it line up with the groove in the lower control arm
Love the video, I had a question about the spindles, what brand did you get? I know they were inexpensive I’d like to get the same ones
Amazon?
It’s been so long I don’t remember sorry
Man you did a real good job on Lowering the truck man. Man she look real good. For somebody doing it for the first time you did excellent job man. Sleeper dude I have a question man? Is Your town Riceville located off of Interstate 75 down by Chattanooga Tennessee? I did enjoy watching you lowering that truck man.
Yes that is where it is thanks
@@Sleeperdude oh man I just came by you last night on my way to drop a load off and my wife in New Orleans for the hurricane victims. Man I had driven by you so many times. I just drove by you two weeks ago on my way to Alabama when they got hit by the hurricane. Interstate 75 and 40 are my traveling interstate. Man that is so awesome. Man I would love to meet up with you someday that will be so awesome.
Link for leaf spring perch’s?
Nice
Thank you
Did you use the stock shocks in the front in rear?? Watched the video a couple times, sorry if I missed a part where you said it!
Yes I used the stock shocks
Can someone please tell me what is so wonderful about dropping the height of vehicle suspension, when it is set in the factory @ the optimal height for the car/van/pick-up?? They look awful and perform even worse!!! My opinion I know, but yo don't find anything like that in the UK. See you soon (if I can work out the name-changes..... 🤓
subbed back truck looks good
Daaaaaaaamn that looks good slammed
Thank you I liked it
@@Sleeperdude where is it now?
Hope it's still being used
Im shocked you didnt cut those front bump stops🤣 but might as well buy new tubluars at that point. Im riding 295/50/15s i cut 2 coils. Im 5.5/6 easily . Looks sick but I need tubulars. I love my tiny rake.. mine doesnt rub at all.
Good job! I am getting ready to do something like this to a 77. I don't want to spend a lot of money on new modified aftermarket parts as recommended by another channel who is sponsored by those parts companies. There is nothing wrong with replacing everything with new modified parts designed for this purpose, 'if' one has the 'much' extra money to buy those parts but money can be a hurdle at times.... It's nice to know it can be done this way. How does the truck ride now?
I know you learned a lot by doing this one, this way. If you had it to do over again would you go the same route, or would you recommend going the high dollar new parts way ? I trust your judgement and experience which you have gained 'by doing'! How does the truck ride? I hope you can find time to answer my questions which will be 'very' helpful.
PS How is Ralphie's Camaro coming along? Yall are a blessed family. Keep up the good work and God Bless!!
Phillip Hall
Yes I would do it the same way. It rode pretty good actually
@@Sleeperdude
Thank you SO much!!!
Phillip Hall
phosphoric acid is a good etching solution
Ok good to know thanks
re build...and poss. re jet the carb...reset the choke also
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Be careful using a grinder like that or you'll end up eating it l. Good looking truck
Yeah for sure
I always drop my new spark plugs to adjust the gap
Looks good. I would not want to drive it on a rainy day though probably might flood out with no inner fenders.
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re coil the front.. end... add 2 inches back..the geometry has been radiclly changed..
Yes
good h.d. shocks will do...
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Did you leave original coil springs on?
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Did you ever find a wheel and tire combo that didn’t rub top of the wheel well? Just did 2.5” spindle and 3” drop springs on my 82 and having same issue.
I ended up putting some spring rubbers in the front springs and that fixed it
Do some slosh tubs look em up , i drop trucks as a full time job and when i go beyond a 5 drop we install those to clear any setup there perfect or take off your innner tubs and ride
I want to do the same to my pickup, but I thought I had to do a c-notch. How does it do without the c-notch?
Ours did fine … if you went much lower than what we did you would have to
Put stock springs back in it and save yourself the headache
Take the fat end of a baseball bat and roll the car truck for forward and backward and let the baseball bat top ride up on the fender well and I’ll push the fender. Well I’ll just enough to get tired of clear.
guess you should of cut coil after drop spindles. half coil and you wouldnt have rubbed.
That was the quietest I have ever heard Ralphie. So, did y’all sale this truck ?
Did you use marhide trim black ?
I honestly don’t remember
I would've left the front were you had it first
Sweet video, I’m going to lower mine , long box I got Belltech 6852 kit
I’m not notching, I don’t want to ruin the frame. Is it worth lowering does it Ride better?
I like how it rode but I am used to lowered vehicles
Did you have any clearance issues without notching it?
No I didn’t
I lowered mine still lots of clearance, not notched, rides soft which was my goal. Used shorter shocks
I’m not gonna do the spindles but you best bet imma drop my c20 make it look like this.. I’m going for 3/5
Awesome
SO !
Try R44TS
AC Delco spark plugs
Ok thanks
@@Sleeperdude , Oh yeah ,
Those two push bars on the front bumper or as I call them broken Teeth , I removed mine from my 78 Chevy Silverado and threw them on the shelf in my garage , it looks so much better and if I ever decide to sell it I will give them to the next owner and if he or she decided to put them back on its their choice , but as for now and it's mine , they are going to stay off ,
Nice looking truck Sleeperdude
Link for the drop spindles?
Sorry man its been awhile but I do know they were the cheapest ones on eBay
This video was done 2 years ago! No way I would remember or probably be able to find on flea bay. Thanks Josh for great video.
I didn’t use the 2inch spindles it was low enough and I don’t want to take out the inner finders
Good call
What drop shocks did u use
I didn't change the shocks
@@Sleeperdude do you know the brand you have
I'm not sure they were just what was on the truck I sold that truck months ago
Hi
You said the T-word .
why not clean up and paint the control arms once you had em out.
It was just a quick job to resell the truck
This video makes me not wanna lower my 85 anymore.
Bruh why it isn't that much work
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DUDE! forget the work on the truck!!! Please move those 4 gas cans outside BEFORE you start grinding!
Good idea
autolite plugs?😒
Why would someone want to?
Auto lights? Why? ACdelco is for Chevy's
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I can show you how to slam it without spending a dollar
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Why would anyone want to do that it's not a Honda. So now it makes it as a truck useless.
mine is lowed and still able to use it as a truck just brought a pallet of sod home
Mess that truck up should have left the drop spindles off
Way to ruin a survivor truck.
You ruined that Chevy,unless you are going to sell it to a mexican😮
Ok thanks
How to make your truck completely undriveable in just 25 minutes.
Lot of work to make it un drivable. I know it’s popular but I don’t care for a truck sitting this low.
The guy that bought it drove it 3 hours home with no problems