Personally, I think it ended fantastically. Of course, some episodes were very hit or miss but others like the last one were so good. The season also showed us major character development from the previous seasons, and while some characters did not get a proper send-off, I think it was amazing considering season 3 was not even supposed to happen. And I feel like the "loose threads" might get answered in Luke Pearson's upcoming "Hilda and Twig" Novel which will show us some backstories of certain characters. Either way I'm just happy we got a semi-conclusive ending rather than finishing the story on "The Mountain King" and leaving way too many questions unanswered.
I'm glad that you enjoyed the series conclusion. Ultimately, it was a fun season, but I think there will be a lot of debate over what it accomplished. It was great to get another season after the Mountain King! However, I think there will be a lot of differing opinions about where everyone ended up. I'm already seeing that in the few comments for this video! Good to hear that Luke Pearson is still doing some Hilda stories. I had wondered what he would do after the series outstripped his own books and the differences between them and the animated show.
Honestly while I Loved Hilda Season 3. Like the Owl House I feel that this Series has a lot more stories to tell and feels like we could’ve had another season with it. Frida and David, ESPECIALLY feels left out and deserves another season to see their character development coming full circle.
It's such a unique problem. No story can go on forever, lest it go stale, so you want to end it properly, BUT it's so easy to create so many interesting threads and side stories that engage and intrigue the audience. They want those resolved, too! So, the best solution is to focus on the characters and main plot line. David and Frieda were close to completing their character arcs set out in season 1, but we only got a taste of that in season 3, not the whole deal... And you're right, we saw the exact same thing with The Owl House! There's so much more that could have been done with Gus, Willow, and Hunter! Not to mention that Eda got significantly less character development after season 1 and it often felt like she was just hanging around! But much of that problem came from Disney at first promising up to 5 seasons and then yanking all those promises right in the middle of season 2's production, forcing Dana to fight for even those three specials that make up season 3.
@@johanstenfelt1206 Pretty much! Yeah, it's a tidbit of Owl House history that Disney quickly threw down the memory hole after the labeled the show to get canned.
"I know their adventures are not over, and my heart is full of sorrow knowing I can't join then for any more." -Me when I talk about this show now. The end of this show hit me hard. I am not ready for it to end and you help me see a part of why I am not ready for it to end that I missed. The thing that broke me up about the ending that I noticed was that there are no other stories with a vibe or setting like this. That I know of. Now when I say broken up I am really mentally upset. I've find my self crying a lot since it ended. Even at work. My daily habits have completely changed from how I feel about the show coming to an end. I've gone from playing games with most of my free time to barely playing them and just writing. I then started to rewatch the show, and during the movie I started to just do a run around the block every day after seeing Hilda run about as a troll and enjoying it. I've been changing how I spend my time and life do to how mentally up set I am about it ending. And I don't want to let go of this sorrow. I am enjoying this mental misery. One story I am working is meant to recreate that vibe and feeling of Hilda, but in an original world I am using for a different story of a completely different tone (save the world, then universe use and master magic to do so). Wanting to write this Hilda inspired story and make it amazing have captured my attention and desired. But I want to have the other story in the world written first as it can add context and contrast to both stories. Even if they are 400 years apart. Lets see the hero save the world, and then lets see how 'normal' people spend that freedom and happiness given to them when using the same magic the heroes used to save the world for day to day stuff. "Just because the era of heroes is over does not mean there are no more adventures to be had"
I'm glad that Hilda has given you a lot inspiration and motivation to write your own story, but make sure you take care of yourself! Hilda will always a special place in my heart. It was a show that got me through my first year of teaching, and it was just so much fun watching it with my family and enjoying the adventure. And it's true, adventures don't have to end. There are always more to be had. :)
@@camillesharem In my sorrow I've been taking better care of my self then ever. When I finish the first part of my Hilda inspired story I hope you find it. And when you finish for fan fic for S4 I will happily read it.
@@generalzeta7000 Good to hear! Keep taking care of yourself. And that season 4 fanfic is a long ways off. Haha! Oh boy... I have so much else on my plate, but I will make it known when that story starts dropping!
Hmm.. some valid, solid points. Personally, I think it's better not all "perfectly concluded character archs". I'm a slice of life fan, and the reality of life is that we don't have well rounded cut off story archs for everyone at the same time more often than not. But the bigger reason that I think it fits is because the main characters are still kids. You're not going to see the conclusion of their storys and where they go because it's so far later. Sure, there are way it can and has been done, like the owl house and Phineas and Ferb, but it can also be nice to not be confined to that conclusion. To leave it open. It can be borning to have everything so formulaic, and the open endedness to it is nice.
I am super late to this but maybe by fate! Not too long ago, some information from Rebecca Sugar came out in one of the concept art books that completely explain why Steven Universe ended then we got a movie and SU: Future. I believe the quote I'm referring to was along the lines of "the only reason to make a movie is to promote more show." I wonder a lot if Hilda had something similar happen (for probably different reasons) and that's why the final season (while FANTASTIC) may feel a little rushed at times. Of course this is all speculation, and considering this is *recent* information I doubt we'll know anything about the production story behind Hilda's ending anytime soon, if ever. I really enjoyed your video, and hope you found this helpful! :))
This season 3 can't end like this... I felt it was very unfinished, and it had an unsatisfactory ending, I'm not saying that it was terrible or bad. But seriously, despite having a small cameo, it made me very sad 😞😞😞. They should have made Johanna's parents return to the human world, if they had returned the series would have had a great ending, but I cried, for 3 weeks and I'm still sad, this can't end like this. The series has to continue. 😭😭😭😭😭
Honestly, I kind of agree with what you said. Also, here are my thoughts on why I felt like this season felt incomplete. 1. Frida's arc as a witch, felt very underutilized and Frida herself didn't seem to grow a lot. Unlike Hilda and her parents and David and his parents, we didn't see her interact a lot with her parents throughout the show. Not to mention we never see how other human characters reacted to her being a witch. 2. Hilda, Frida, and David's reputation as the Freaky Friends, despite being an interesting plot point, seemed to have been swept under the rug. The worst part is that Louise, the fourth Freaky Friend, just disappeared. 3. Chapter 7: Strange Frequencies, honestly, I feel as if it's the worst episode of Season 3 😥. It felt like the writers were just repeating themselves with The Ghost and The Nisse with Hilda and her friends being assholes towards each other and the Nisse plot being just filler.
I loved season 3, I just wish the whole season felt like the ending. It didn't feel like the show was truly ending until the last few minutes of episode 8. I feel they should have restructured the season and left out the filler. Episodes 3 and 4 are great fun, and while episode 3 is more important for the overall lore, it's still mostly filler with some stuff about the giants thrown in. Episode 4 is entirely filler. I'd much rather have new major characters introduced or old loved characters given some attention rather than have an episode with so much focus on characters we see once and never mention again. I also feel Anders should have been introduced much earlier in the season, like episode 1 or 2. Maybe appear twice before he is taken by Johanna's parents. I did like the bittersweet ending, though. A lot of Hilda's charm is that not everyone has a good ending, including Hilda herself. Sure, she comes out on top, but she still lost something major in her life.
In another discussion, I thought it would be great if we had gotten a full 13 episodes and then the finale. I think with some more time to breath, the filler episodes wouldn't have felt out of place and we would have had more time with Anders. You're right that not everything is ever wrapped up in Hilda, and a lot is let open ended and bitter-sweet, but it could still feel complete. Oddly enough, the first season I think captures that the best. It might have been just the beginning, but it was an entirely contained story. Going further, the final season needed to find a way to cap off the character development a little better so it would have come across more complete. That's just how I see it.
hilda cucked by netflix, but at least it didnt get the inside job treatment (it almost did). One of the writers said on twitter that there was a lot more already written stories they were not able to tell because they only got 8 episodes. While I would have liked to see a witch episode with frida and maybe kaisa and a david episode, personally johanna has been my favorite character in the show by far since season 1 so I really liked that season 3 focused on her. Maybe episodes 3 and 4 could have been substituted for those (even if they are good) and it would have been better but we have no real way of knowing. Its just unfortunate animation always gets treated like shit by higher ups and this show that means so much to me will never ever reach its full potential. Even then, the last 5 ish minutes of the fairy isle still made me sob uncontrollably so i guess they did the best they could have.
So, pretty much the opposite opinion to ReyGGTV. Personally for me, while the episodes in this third season can be a bit more silly and hit-and-miss than the first two, it still keeps the best aspects of the show (the atmosphere, the characters (especially Johanna)) intact. And the final episode, the Fairy Isle, came full circle to really bring the emotional gut-punches and tied a great ribbon round a mostly excellent show. With 2-3 year gaps between seasons, you can tell the writers and crew took their time crafting this piece of art and pouring love into every crevice of the animation and stories, making it stand out amongst its other story-driven contemporaries like Gravity Falls, Amphibia and Owl House. Hilda, whether people liked this final season or not, is a show that will truly stand the test of time due to the amount of EFFORT and ART lovingly poured into it. It is truly a masterpiece of a show. Pity Netflix had to meddle with the final season by restricting it to 8 episodes. Ah well, at least The Fairy Isle is pretty much feature-length.
Yeah, mine is definitely a differing opinion. Haha! Really, there is a lot to love in the final season, and I very much enjoyed watching it. I actually dropped all my other projects just to enjoy binging it. It just didn't feel like a proper finale to me, with too much left open. Which was why I had to compare it to Gravity falls, which also left a lot unanswered, but did a solid job wrapping up the characters' personal arcs. And there's definitely a discussion and a debate that can be had there! I know a lot of people were very pleased with where Hilda and friends all ended up. I agree with you, it is clear just how much love, passion, and talent went into this final season. It hit so hard at times! And the animation was fluid and nigh flawless most of the time. The Fairy Isle special was definitely worthy of cinematic release with its quality and tightness of storytelling.
Uh-huh, so Netflix meddled, huh? In that case, i guess i could consider Hilda to be Netflix’s Steven Universe. …though, then again, from the looks of things, it does seem the meddling were probably not as bad as it were for either Steven Universe or The Owl House, so I guess Hilda could not be considered to be to extent, Still, I do feel like there could be a Show out there that could be Netflix’s Equivalent to Steven Universe in terms of how it was handled by outside forces, I wonder which one?
The ending leaves you with that bittersweet taste of, "yes, Hilda's world is full of life, there are so many things that you love, but we won't explain any more of that, goodbye forever" It makes me feel bad, why have I had to worry about the world building of the series if at the end it seems like a cliffhanger that will not have a continuation?
That's the result of not wrapping up enough important threads within the story. Large worlds with tons of unexplored potential are fine and dandy. Fablehaven is a great example. We have as much Middle Earth lore as we do in part because fans begged for more knowledge of the world after Tolkien published LOTR. But both series feel nicely complete because Mull and Tolkien respectively wrapped up the most important character and plot arcs. Hilda kept dumping tons of juicy lore and incredible adventures on us without fully completing the main characters' own personal adventures. And in that hole of expectation, the wonderful world building and potential looms large.
@@camillesharem Not only the world building, this happens the same with the characters, who are treated simply as recurring tools for some chapters, otherwise they are forgotten, but they are so, so interesting, that it feels salty not knowing almost anything about them despite only make cameos in the final moments of the series. It is very incomplete. when you mention Gravity Falls that the characters, despite being so, so interesting, the series gives a worthy conclusion to each one so that you don't have to ask many questions about them
@@manuerth Alex Hirsch said that endings are as hard as the beginning. Where in one you have to hook and convince your audience to stick with you for the whole adventure, the ending has to signal that the journey is truly over. And it has to be satisfying across the board. It would be very enlightening to talk with the writers of Hilda to hear their thoughts on why and how they ended the story where they did. And yes! The last scene to the whole show makes you realize that there was so much that could have and probably should have been done with the whole wide cast of extra and side characters!
When I watched the Fairy Isle, I was conflicted on whether the series should continue or end. I really want the series to continue a little further but after I saw Johanna finally have a story arc about her for this season and episode 8, It just gave me second thoughts. Personally Johanna is my favorite character and I have a lot of reasons and I think that the finale of the Hilda franchise should end with her in the spotlight. Even if the series got a revival and continues further, think it's better if she had another arc and her major role (with Hilda) should be at the finale. + Other characters deserve a development such as David, Frida, Kaisa, and that elf that looks like Frida who became close to Alfur (I forgot her name) if it got revived.
Given the reveal about Johanna and the size of that finale, it is hard to think about how they could continue now without coming off a little silly for trying to one-up themselves. Johanna got an amazing character arc, and she is a fantastic mother! This last season was all about family, and that was very apt for Hilda. Again, I just wish all the characters are satisfying conclusions to their arcs...
Given the reveal about Johanna and the size of that finale, it is hard to think about how they could continue now without coming off a little silly for trying to one-up themselves. Johanna got an amazing character arc, and she is a fantastic mother! This last season was all about family, and that was very apt for Hilda. Again, I just wish all the characters are satisfying conclusions to their arcs...
@@camillesharem Not completely true true, all television shows with main characters have more than one arc so it is possible. Besides she could have another arc from where she was 11 and it could relate to her as a parent.
While I did love Hilda season 3, I did think that it was unnecessary, considering how conclusive Hilda and the mountain king was. This season did focus more on Johanna than the previous seasons and the movie. I still enjoyed this season and how it wrapped up the series, even though the final episode had a bad habit of avoiding consequences repeatedly.
I think you're onto something with the Mountain King being the planned ending for the series. Had it all ended there, it would have been more akin to Gravity Falls, with a lot more adventures to be had, but where the characters end up would have been acceptable to the fans. But a combination of fan demand, Netflix profits, and the desire on the part of the showrunners to tell some more stories, we got season 3. You're absolutely right about how there should have been consequences for the events of the final episode. Again, I think the best way to show that would have been to concretely wrap up the character arcs for Hilda, David, and Frieda. I think there will certainly be conversations on that point about how well their conclusion was communicated by Hilda fighting for her family and rejecting the adventures of Fairyland, Frieda showed off awesome magic, and David did go into the Fairy Mound. Personally, I see those more as the second to last steps for them towards reaching a more substantive and exact mile marker. For example, getting to see Freida finally apprentice under a qualified witch like Tildy or Kaisa OR giving David a singular episode where he independent of prodding from Hilda or Frieda shows real backbone. These who be more than moments of progression, but be viable, meaningful events that prove their character arcs.
@@camillesharem hm, Fan Demand, Netflix Profits and Showrunners’ Desire to Tell Some More Stories? While the First Two is not that Surprising, but if the Showrunners’ Desires were also a factor, then why couldn’t they have just done Two More Seasons than just One? Did they really think they could just wrap everything up with just One Season? Especially when said Season ended up dealing with an Entirely New Thing that as far as i know were just Introduced in the One Same Season, rather than just making use of the already Established Things from previous Seasons? I mean seriously, were the Whole Fairy Plotline/Origin something that was Planned from the Get-go?
@@johanstenfelt1206 The answer with Netflix is simple: you're never guaranteed another season. The fact that Dragon Prince was given a contract for all its seasons was earth-shattering and many other creators were rightfully pissed for their projects getting yoinked by Netflix before they had a chance to finish. The showrunners were likely told that they could only bet on more season. Netflix wanted more, but a long-running series was never a sure thing. The showrunners and writers then went with the story and timeline that they felt best to conclude Hilda. Just because someone is given one more season or one more to wrap everything up doesn't meant that they always stick the landing.
@@camillesharem hm, yeah, that sounds about right. Still, that doesn’t answer the Fairy Stuff, did we get any hints towards Fairies in the Previous Seasons?
Holy cow, Hilda is not at all what I thought it was. I’m definitely going to need to watch it soon. The characters seem meaningful, the story is not only interesting, but the plot and the background sound really deep. I want to create a story that revolves around backstory and lore, lore that the audience needs to figure out for themselves. That’s why Dark souls hit so hard. That’s why Elden Ring felt so immersive. That’s why I still play Skyrim. It’s so indescribably fun to figure out the lore behind the story. Discovering it for yourself gives you a sense of accomplishment that never gets old. And a confrontation with abyssal entities never fails to give me chills. Like I always say, “there’s no threat like a cosmic threat”.
Also, I just recently found an old project that I was working on over 5 years ago, and wow, it is *bad* The story is actually really interesting, but damn, everything else made me want to vomit. I bring this up now because I’m going to be picking it back up as practice for when I’m ready to animate Shadow Bound. That’s right, a side project. This story is called “Fable of the Hunter”. It’s a story that I mostly came up with to test my knowledge of mythologies and legends of different cultures. And there we go. My three projects for 2024 are set up and ready to go. Any other story idea I come up with will have to sit on the sidelines and wait for a while.
@@Iso20227 You're going to have a busy year! I have a couple of older, very badly written stories that I ended up cannibalizing for other story ideas after the fact. Which reminds me, if I'm lucky, I'll get to write a very wonky side story for next year's NaNoWriMo. It amazes me that White Fire is born from a cannibalized story that I never finished, inspired by some very questionable artwork, which then got gunked up in the rough draft so badly that the whole story was derailed, which led to me writing Tumbleteller. And now I'm going to write another side story. Hahaha! And if none of that makes any sense, it's okay; White Fire's been in production hell for years!
@@camillesharem lol, I honestly forgot that it was a kids show. But then again, so was Gravity Falls, and that got really disturbing at times. (The shapeshifter, Bill Cypher’s body horror, imminent destruction of the entire dimension, etc.) And while my year may be busy, I hope for it to be very productive as well. The more I look through “Fable of the Hunter” the more good ideas I find. Like, some of these ideas are the classic 11-12 year old fantasies (friendly dragons, instant romance development, Majestic wolves that howl majestically at the majestic moon… majestically, etc), but if I take some of these ideas and even just twist them slightly, I can get some amazing plot out of them. A peaceful and thriving race of happy little dragons? Well, how about an endangered race of dragons who have grown bitter and resentful towards humans for their hunting of their kin. Majestic wolves? Well, heh, how about a Pterolycus instead? I used to think that people with a favorite animal or mythology were just weird, and then I found the Pterolycus. A *majestic* (I way overused that word) flying wolf. I gave it ice powers and “spark magic” which is basically just magic that makes a sparking sound. And like Liam Vickers and his Wendigos, I suppose my trademark mythical creature is the Pterolycus. I already have at least one Pterolycus in all of my important stories. A wolf who howls at the moon and causes meteors to fall for no reason? Well, boom. That’s the main threat of the entire story now. The Black Pterolycus hates humanity and seeks to gain the powers of the White Pterolycus so that he can combine them and use them to bring about “Moonfall” and kill all of the humans. And even as I’ve been typing this out, I’ve been coming up with more and more of the story. (Thank you 12 year old me for being so absolutely terrible at writing) Quite the creative start to my year, and I’ll take that as a good sign. (Happy New Year, by the way)
Hm, I see, now currently, as I am writing this, I have not yet seen Season 3 and have only seen one single Video about what the Episodes was about up to now and yeah, while I could understand that this did seem like a very well done and interesting (while also, perhaps, maybe a little too short) Season, what I couldn’t understand however was (ironically enough) just what kind of Finale we actually got, just what kind of Note did we End Everything on, did the Ending end up being a Open one or a more Complete one? So, I really appreciate that you made this Video, because it kind of gave me a pretty good idea and it seems like we ended up getting a rather Open Ending for the Series Finale, now granted having a Open Ending as the Final Ending can be fine, especially if it’s done well, ‘cause like you said “you don’t have to Complete everything”, but from what I get from this, is that perhaps, Hilda Season 3 Ended a little too open. So, yeah, despite of having yet to actually have seen Season 3, based on what I have gathered so far, I can already understand what you mean and agree with you, when you’re going to End a Series, I feel like it should be pretty important that the Characters that have been portrayed as the Main Cast throughout the Entire Series should all at least have a Main Focus in the actual Finale, On top of that, even when just watching a Video talking about the Episodes, even at that point I could feel like that what we got, while good and interesting, might not have been enough as a Finale and I feel like that is especially the case when said Final Season take place after a Timeskip, ‘cause from what I understand, what people usually like about Timeskips, is probably to see how it has effected and changed things with the Characters and the World they inhabit, it can be sort of required to reintroduce the World after doing a Timeskip, at least in my opinion, Anyway, back on topic, even though we ended up learning more about Hilda’s Family Origins, while all of that might’ve been interesting, by the end of the day what does that really mean for Hilda herself in the Long-run? Honestly at this point, I can’t help but to wonder why they even bothered making a Final Season in the first place, I mean sure the Movie might’ve not been that good either with leaving things hanging, but feel like that at least felt a little more conclusive, I could be wrong about that though, But anyway, I also don’t really know what i think or feel about how the whole Fairy Thing seems to be so Exclusive to Season 3, I mean were there any Foreshadowing or Mention or any Buildup at all to anything Fairy related in the First Two Seasons? I feel like it came a little out of nowhere which i feel like isn’t very fitting for a Final Season or Final Episodes or Final Anything really, especially not for a pretty well done Series, i feel like it would be more fitting for a Series Finale of any kind, be it Episodes or an Entire Season, to deal with something more familiar from at least a Previous Season or Two by the End if it all, now of course once again that could just be my opinion, but I do feel like that would be more fitting for a Final Season, But regardless, I was hoping that the Finale of Hilda could been as well done as Amphibia’s and/or The Owl House’s, but it’s a Shame that ended up not being the case, welp at least it’s good to know that the Season in of itself turned out good enough. By the way, on a Side-Note: when Season 3 was on it’s way, I was really wondering if the Marra was going to replace the Trolls as the most Major Recurring Antagonistic Force of the Series, I felt like they could’ve had a lot of potential for that, especially with how they tried to turn one of the Main Characters into one of them, so I was kind of hoping for them to step up their game, granted this hoping kind of dwindled after I realized Season 3 was going to take place after a Timeskip, of course them becoming more of a Major Antagonistic Force could probably still be done, but at that point you kind of gotta wonder why they didn’t step up their Game earlier in the Timeline, But regardless, it seems like that the Marra really did end up being just a bunch of Mystical Teens who likes messing with People from time to time, who i guess were just supposed to a nuisance for the Main Characters from time to time, Despite that though, i really wish we could’ve seen more from them and learned more about them, i thought they were so interesting and had a lot of potential, with their abilities and all, especially (like i said before) as Antagonists and probably would have been more fitting to deal with in the Final Season, just saying. About something else entirely, about FanFictions, have you ever thought of doing FanFiction Reviews? ‘Cause there are some FanFiction Series that I would like to know other opinions on.
To answer your question, we used to do epic readings of bad fanfics and then break down why they didn't work. However, after a while we felt that we might be getting too mean with that, so we stopped. Instead, we decided to focus on far more polished and professional works to review and analyze.
@@camillesharem ah, I see, interesting, do you still do that then? What was the latest FanFic Review you did? By the way, just curious, but did you read my entire Comment or just my Question?
@@johanstenfelt1206 I read your comment, which is how I got to your question. It's been a busy day and we don't always get around to writing essay responses! Haha! We do book reviews and manga reviews, no problem, but as for fanfiction, the last one that I have a record of us reviewing was One Less Lonely Gurl back in 2019. Yes, I spelled that right. In some videos I have taken swipes at aspects of fanfiction writing and particular examples, but it's been years since we last really dived into fanfiction review.
@@camillesharem hm, I see, in that case, Have you ever heard of A Witch In Wartwood? It’s a AU Story that I have been particularly interested in, but I don’t know for certain how well done it really is, so I would like to hear your opinions about it.
Would you think if Netflix gave Season 3 the full 13 episode season (and probably also 1 hour special finale), it would have a better chance at feeling more complete? Given the finale is the same, just with more buildup and additional stories. Or is an ending like this destined to feel more of a penultimate? Genuine question
That is an excellent question! If the final season had gotten 13 episodes and then the grand finale, it would have worked. Within those full 13 episodes, we could have gotten one Freida-dedicated episode, one for David, and finally one for Hilda that would fully setup the finale and show how she's grown. Granted, they would have shuffle some stuff around and the writers would have to be more focused on that matter of wrapping up character arcs; they needed to be more cognizant of continuous character progression for the whole main cast! But yeah, a full run could have helped them wrap up everything. My suggestion about facing the void is pure fan speculation and my own favorite headcanon based on the earlier episodes. The Fairy Isles was a good way to tie up everything, but it was the main cast who felt neglected in the sprint to do something awesome with Johanna's backstory.
That episode is in the contending for one of my favorites through the entire series. It was so cool! So spooky! And I loved Johanna's actions to save Hilda! Chef's kiss
my main issue with the ending, or I guess the whole series, is that, for lack of a better metaphor, the story looks at the world of Hilda through a very narrow lens. I understand that too much worldbuilding can ruin a story, but at the same time, sometimes the show feels like it throws something that in any other show would be an extremely important detail at you, then never brings it up again. this, in my opinion, creates the uncommon issue of too little worldbuilding. for example, the witches have what is basically a portal to hell directly under Trollberg, but it is only really relevant in one episode, and no one seems to concerned about it. or, an even better example, what the heck is a "wood man"? all of the other creatures in the show have roots in Norse mythology, (besides woffs and thunderbirds, but at least those are explained somewhat) he might be a dryad, really the only thing in mythology that is depicted somewhat like him, (Ents are not mythological in nature, as J.R.R. Tolkien made them up) but if so, he's a long way from Greece, if this world even has a Greece. And if the world of Hilda has a Greece, does that mean creatures from other mythologies are real in this world, too? what about Aztec mythology? is there a human rights crisis going on in Hilda's Mesoamerica? What about Egypt? Come to think of it, early Scandinavian paganism also practiced human sacrifice... I'm sorry, that got very dark very quickly. but really, what does effect having all mythology being real have on a world? Hilda seems like a show that would tackle this, and yet it doesn't. it's still a great show though.
Hilda is a series that juggles stories appropriate for children with deeper themes about family, friends, belonging, and cosmic horror. Haha! There are so many horror elements within Hilda from body horror, jump scares, social problems (such as with the Mara), and then things get truly cosmic from time to time, where the reality is so dangerous and mind-bending. If we dig deeper, the world of Hilda becomes vast and spooky. And I think that does fit the series overall, because Hilda is growing up and learning. All of this magic and all these creatures fill her with wonder and adventure. But the adults can see, and sometime Hilda gets it as well, that the world is far more dangerous than a child can comprehend or appreciate. That horror aspect is part of the reason why I wanted Hilda to come to terms with growing up, finally accepting that the world is far more vast and dangerous than she wanted to believe, but perhaps still choosing love, beauty, and adventure. Season 3's ending definitely sets her up for that, but it never feels like she came to that exact conclusion. Some will argue that I am splitting hairs, and I think that that is great conversation to have!
I always felt something huge was missing from Hilda. That something was off, that something needed to be explained or there were characters that needed context. I Sony know, is it just me?
There's definitely a lot left unsaid in Hilda that should have been said. Season 3 was a great concentrated story, but lost of a lot of the whimsy, grand scope, and adventure that built up the whole story. And Hilda needed to be somewhere different as a character after everything she went through. We see her maturing, but it's nebulous by the end. Endings are hard...
idk i just randomly watched your vid but id defs read your fanfic! theres nowhere near enough good hilda fics or really any fan media for how beloved the show is, havent met anyone whos seen it who didnt love it
As I said in the video, it left way too much open ended for the characters. Ending your series like that tends to leave people feeling underwhelmed. It's been interesting to have this conversation with a lot of people, because some have said they agree and others don't. I think it comes down in part to what you expect from the characters and their journeys.
I can't call it bad or good, I can't call it anything because I couldn't even call it AN ENDING! It feels like it "ended" MID-STORY! They built such a world and a well structured story only to let us walk through the first 5 floors of the 20-story tower they built.
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Personally, I think it ended fantastically. Of course, some episodes were very hit or miss but others like the last one were so good. The season also showed us major character development from the previous seasons, and while some characters did not get a proper send-off, I think it was amazing considering season 3 was not even supposed to happen. And I feel like the "loose threads" might get answered in Luke Pearson's upcoming "Hilda and Twig" Novel which will show us some backstories of certain characters. Either way I'm just happy we got a semi-conclusive ending rather than finishing the story on "The Mountain King" and leaving way too many questions unanswered.
I'm glad that you enjoyed the series conclusion. Ultimately, it was a fun season, but I think there will be a lot of debate over what it accomplished. It was great to get another season after the Mountain King! However, I think there will be a lot of differing opinions about where everyone ended up. I'm already seeing that in the few comments for this video!
Good to hear that Luke Pearson is still doing some Hilda stories. I had wondered what he would do after the series outstripped his own books and the differences between them and the animated show.
Hm, a Novel, huh? What will that be about exactly, does it take place at some point or is it just a collection of Stories?
@@johanstenfelt1206 The novel's called 'Hilda and Twig hide from the rain' I believe. It goes more into young Hilda and twig's adventures.
Honestly while I Loved Hilda Season 3. Like the Owl House I feel that this Series has a lot more stories to tell and feels like we could’ve had another season with it.
Frida and David, ESPECIALLY feels left out and deserves another season to see their character development coming full circle.
It's such a unique problem. No story can go on forever, lest it go stale, so you want to end it properly, BUT it's so easy to create so many interesting threads and side stories that engage and intrigue the audience. They want those resolved, too! So, the best solution is to focus on the characters and main plot line. David and Frieda were close to completing their character arcs set out in season 1, but we only got a taste of that in season 3, not the whole deal...
And you're right, we saw the exact same thing with The Owl House! There's so much more that could have been done with Gus, Willow, and Hunter! Not to mention that Eda got significantly less character development after season 1 and it often felt like she was just hanging around! But much of that problem came from Disney at first promising up to 5 seasons and then yanking all those promises right in the middle of season 2's production, forcing Dana to fight for even those three specials that make up season 3.
@@camillesharem …we could’ve had 5 Seasons of The Owl House?
‘Sigh’ honestly, this is why I consider The Owl House to be Disney’s Steven Universe.
@@johanstenfelt1206 Pretty much! Yeah, it's a tidbit of Owl House history that Disney quickly threw down the memory hole after the labeled the show to get canned.
I cried so much during season three lol
@@ximena10144 It did get emotional. Twig reuniting again with his family made me sooooo happy and a little teary eyed.
"I know their adventures are not over, and my heart is full of sorrow knowing I can't join then for any more." -Me when I talk about this show now.
The end of this show hit me hard. I am not ready for it to end and you help me see a part of why I am not ready for it to end that I missed. The thing that broke me up about the ending that I noticed was that there are no other stories with a vibe or setting like this. That I know of.
Now when I say broken up I am really mentally upset. I've find my self crying a lot since it ended. Even at work. My daily habits have completely changed from how I feel about the show coming to an end. I've gone from playing games with most of my free time to barely playing them and just writing. I then started to rewatch the show, and during the movie I started to just do a run around the block every day after seeing Hilda run about as a troll and enjoying it. I've been changing how I spend my time and life do to how mentally up set I am about it ending. And I don't want to let go of this sorrow. I am enjoying this mental misery.
One story I am working is meant to recreate that vibe and feeling of Hilda, but in an original world I am using for a different story of a completely different tone (save the world, then universe use and master magic to do so). Wanting to write this Hilda inspired story and make it amazing have captured my attention and desired. But I want to have the other story in the world written first as it can add context and contrast to both stories. Even if they are 400 years apart. Lets see the hero save the world, and then lets see how 'normal' people spend that freedom and happiness given to them when using the same magic the heroes used to save the world for day to day stuff.
"Just because the era of heroes is over does not mean there are no more adventures to be had"
I'm glad that Hilda has given you a lot inspiration and motivation to write your own story, but make sure you take care of yourself!
Hilda will always a special place in my heart. It was a show that got me through my first year of teaching, and it was just so much fun watching it with my family and enjoying the adventure. And it's true, adventures don't have to end. There are always more to be had. :)
@@camillesharem In my sorrow I've been taking better care of my self then ever. When I finish the first part of my Hilda inspired story I hope you find it. And when you finish for fan fic for S4 I will happily read it.
@@generalzeta7000 Good to hear! Keep taking care of yourself. And that season 4 fanfic is a long ways off. Haha! Oh boy... I have so much else on my plate, but I will make it known when that story starts dropping!
Same, have you tried watching the cartoon saloon's movies (song of the sea, secret of kells)? They are the only Hilda-like thing I can think of
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Yes. I even rewatched Wolfwalkers yesterday.
Hmm.. some valid, solid points. Personally, I think it's better not all "perfectly concluded character archs". I'm a slice of life fan, and the reality of life is that we don't have well rounded cut off story archs for everyone at the same time more often than not.
But the bigger reason that I think it fits is because the main characters are still kids. You're not going to see the conclusion of their storys and where they go because it's so far later. Sure, there are way it can and has been done, like the owl house and Phineas and Ferb, but it can also be nice to not be confined to that conclusion. To leave it open. It can be borning to have everything so formulaic, and the open endedness to it is nice.
I am super late to this but maybe by fate! Not too long ago, some information from Rebecca Sugar came out in one of the concept art books that completely explain why Steven Universe ended then we got a movie and SU: Future. I believe the quote I'm referring to was along the lines of "the only reason to make a movie is to promote more show." I wonder a lot if Hilda had something similar happen (for probably different reasons) and that's why the final season (while FANTASTIC) may feel a little rushed at times. Of course this is all speculation, and considering this is *recent* information I doubt we'll know anything about the production story behind Hilda's ending anytime soon, if ever.
I really enjoyed your video, and hope you found this helpful! :))
This season 3 can't end like this...
I felt it was very unfinished, and it had an unsatisfactory ending, I'm not saying that it was terrible or bad.
But seriously, despite having a small cameo, it made me very sad 😞😞😞.
They should have made Johanna's parents return to the human world, if they had returned the series would have had a great ending, but I cried, for 3 weeks and I'm still sad, this can't end like this.
The series has to continue. 😭😭😭😭😭
Honestly, I kind of agree with what you said. Also, here are my thoughts on why I felt like this season felt incomplete.
1. Frida's arc as a witch, felt very underutilized and Frida herself didn't seem to grow a lot. Unlike Hilda and her parents and David and his parents, we didn't see her interact a lot with her parents throughout the show. Not to mention we never see how other human characters reacted to her being a witch.
2. Hilda, Frida, and David's reputation as the Freaky Friends, despite being an interesting plot point, seemed to have been swept under the rug. The worst part is that Louise, the fourth Freaky Friend, just disappeared.
3. Chapter 7: Strange Frequencies, honestly, I feel as if it's the worst episode of Season 3 😥. It felt like the writers were just repeating themselves with The Ghost and The Nisse with Hilda and her friends being assholes towards each other and the Nisse plot being just filler.
I agree; those are some good points and observations. It's just sadly not a wholly satisfying conclusion for what is otherwise a very fun show.
I loved season 3, I just wish the whole season felt like the ending. It didn't feel like the show was truly ending until the last few minutes of episode 8. I feel they should have restructured the season and left out the filler. Episodes 3 and 4 are great fun, and while episode 3 is more important for the overall lore, it's still mostly filler with some stuff about the giants thrown in. Episode 4 is entirely filler. I'd much rather have new major characters introduced or old loved characters given some attention rather than have an episode with so much focus on characters we see once and never mention again. I also feel Anders should have been introduced much earlier in the season, like episode 1 or 2. Maybe appear twice before he is taken by Johanna's parents.
I did like the bittersweet ending, though. A lot of Hilda's charm is that not everyone has a good ending, including Hilda herself. Sure, she comes out on top, but she still lost something major in her life.
In another discussion, I thought it would be great if we had gotten a full 13 episodes and then the finale. I think with some more time to breath, the filler episodes wouldn't have felt out of place and we would have had more time with Anders. You're right that not everything is ever wrapped up in Hilda, and a lot is let open ended and bitter-sweet, but it could still feel complete.
Oddly enough, the first season I think captures that the best. It might have been just the beginning, but it was an entirely contained story. Going further, the final season needed to find a way to cap off the character development a little better so it would have come across more complete. That's just how I see it.
hilda cucked by netflix, but at least it didnt get the inside job treatment (it almost did). One of the writers said on twitter that there was a lot more already written stories they were not able to tell because they only got 8 episodes. While I would have liked to see a witch episode with frida and maybe kaisa and a david episode, personally johanna has been my favorite character in the show by far since season 1 so I really liked that season 3 focused on her. Maybe episodes 3 and 4 could have been substituted for those (even if they are good) and it would have been better but we have no real way of knowing. Its just unfortunate animation always gets treated like shit by higher ups and this show that means so much to me will never ever reach its full potential. Even then, the last 5 ish minutes of the fairy isle still made me sob uncontrollably so i guess they did the best they could have.
The fact that the most common criticism everyone has for Hilda is that they want more tells us all we need to know about how fans love Hilda 😂
La saison 3 de Hilda n'était pas censé exister, donc peut être qu'une saison 4 verra le jour si la série a assez de succès pour que Netflix continue.
That would nice if it turns out that way.
@@camillesharem We hope.
So, pretty much the opposite opinion to ReyGGTV.
Personally for me, while the episodes in this third season can be a bit more silly and hit-and-miss than the first two, it still keeps the best aspects of the show (the atmosphere, the characters (especially Johanna)) intact. And the final episode, the Fairy Isle, came full circle to really bring the emotional gut-punches and tied a great ribbon round a mostly excellent show. With 2-3 year gaps between seasons, you can tell the writers and crew took their time crafting this piece of art and pouring love into every crevice of the animation and stories, making it stand out amongst its other story-driven contemporaries like Gravity Falls, Amphibia and Owl House.
Hilda, whether people liked this final season or not, is a show that will truly stand the test of time due to the amount of EFFORT and ART lovingly poured into it. It is truly a masterpiece of a show.
Pity Netflix had to meddle with the final season by restricting it to 8 episodes. Ah well, at least The Fairy Isle is pretty much feature-length.
Yeah, mine is definitely a differing opinion. Haha! Really, there is a lot to love in the final season, and I very much enjoyed watching it. I actually dropped all my other projects just to enjoy binging it. It just didn't feel like a proper finale to me, with too much left open. Which was why I had to compare it to Gravity falls, which also left a lot unanswered, but did a solid job wrapping up the characters' personal arcs.
And there's definitely a discussion and a debate that can be had there! I know a lot of people were very pleased with where Hilda and friends all ended up.
I agree with you, it is clear just how much love, passion, and talent went into this final season. It hit so hard at times! And the animation was fluid and nigh flawless most of the time. The Fairy Isle special was definitely worthy of cinematic release with its quality and tightness of storytelling.
Uh-huh, so Netflix meddled, huh? In that case, i guess i could consider Hilda to be Netflix’s Steven Universe.
…though, then again, from the looks of things, it does seem the meddling were probably not as bad as it were for either Steven Universe or The Owl House, so I guess Hilda could not be considered to be to extent,
Still, I do feel like there could be a Show out there that could be Netflix’s Equivalent to Steven Universe in terms of how it was handled by outside forces, I wonder which one?
The ending leaves you with that bittersweet taste of, "yes, Hilda's world is full of life, there are so many things that you love, but we won't explain any more of that, goodbye forever"
It makes me feel bad, why have I had to worry about the world building of the series if at the end it seems like a cliffhanger that will not have a continuation?
That's the result of not wrapping up enough important threads within the story. Large worlds with tons of unexplored potential are fine and dandy. Fablehaven is a great example. We have as much Middle Earth lore as we do in part because fans begged for more knowledge of the world after Tolkien published LOTR. But both series feel nicely complete because Mull and Tolkien respectively wrapped up the most important character and plot arcs.
Hilda kept dumping tons of juicy lore and incredible adventures on us without fully completing the main characters' own personal adventures. And in that hole of expectation, the wonderful world building and potential looms large.
@@camillesharem Not only the world building, this happens the same with the characters, who are treated simply as recurring tools for some chapters, otherwise they are forgotten, but they are so, so interesting, that it feels salty not knowing almost anything about them despite only make cameos in the final moments of the series.
It is very incomplete. when you mention Gravity Falls that the characters, despite being so, so interesting, the series gives a worthy conclusion to each one so that you don't have to ask many questions about them
@@manuerth Alex Hirsch said that endings are as hard as the beginning. Where in one you have to hook and convince your audience to stick with you for the whole adventure, the ending has to signal that the journey is truly over. And it has to be satisfying across the board. It would be very enlightening to talk with the writers of Hilda to hear their thoughts on why and how they ended the story where they did. And yes! The last scene to the whole show makes you realize that there was so much that could have and probably should have been done with the whole wide cast of extra and side characters!
@@camillesharem reality hits hard, it is what it is, at least they gave it a chance for this third season, I will miss this series with all my soul
When I watched the Fairy Isle, I was conflicted on whether the series should continue or end. I really want the series to continue a little further but after I saw Johanna finally have a story arc about her for this season and episode 8, It just gave me second thoughts. Personally Johanna is my favorite character and I have a lot of reasons and I think that the finale of the Hilda franchise should end with her in the spotlight. Even if the series got a revival and continues further, think it's better if she had another arc and her major role (with Hilda) should be at the finale.
+ Other characters deserve a development such as David, Frida, Kaisa, and that elf that looks like Frida who became close to Alfur (I forgot her name) if it got revived.
Given the reveal about Johanna and the size of that finale, it is hard to think about how they could continue now without coming off a little silly for trying to one-up themselves. Johanna got an amazing character arc, and she is a fantastic mother! This last season was all about family, and that was very apt for Hilda.
Again, I just wish all the characters are satisfying conclusions to their arcs...
Given the reveal about Johanna and the size of that finale, it is hard to think about how they could continue now without coming off a little silly for trying to one-up themselves. Johanna got an amazing character arc, and she is a fantastic mother! This last season was all about family, and that was very apt for Hilda.
Again, I just wish all the characters are satisfying conclusions to their arcs...
@@camillesharem Not completely true true, all television shows with main characters have more than one arc so it is possible. Besides she could have another arc from where she was 11 and it could relate to her as a parent.
While I did love Hilda season 3, I did think that it was unnecessary, considering how conclusive Hilda and the mountain king was. This season did focus more on Johanna than the previous seasons and the movie. I still enjoyed this season and how it wrapped up the series, even though the final episode had a bad habit of avoiding consequences repeatedly.
Yeah it’s a fantastic 3rd Season but as a FINAL SEASON it’s kinda disappointing.
I think you're onto something with the Mountain King being the planned ending for the series. Had it all ended there, it would have been more akin to Gravity Falls, with a lot more adventures to be had, but where the characters end up would have been acceptable to the fans. But a combination of fan demand, Netflix profits, and the desire on the part of the showrunners to tell some more stories, we got season 3. You're absolutely right about how there should have been consequences for the events of the final episode. Again, I think the best way to show that would have been to concretely wrap up the character arcs for Hilda, David, and Frieda.
I think there will certainly be conversations on that point about how well their conclusion was communicated by Hilda fighting for her family and rejecting the adventures of Fairyland, Frieda showed off awesome magic, and David did go into the Fairy Mound. Personally, I see those more as the second to last steps for them towards reaching a more substantive and exact mile marker. For example, getting to see Freida finally apprentice under a qualified witch like Tildy or Kaisa OR giving David a singular episode where he independent of prodding from Hilda or Frieda shows real backbone. These who be more than moments of progression, but be viable, meaningful events that prove their character arcs.
@@camillesharem hm, Fan Demand, Netflix Profits and Showrunners’ Desire to Tell Some More Stories? While the First Two is not that Surprising, but if the Showrunners’ Desires were also a factor, then why couldn’t they have just done Two More Seasons than just One? Did they really think they could just wrap everything up with just One Season? Especially when said Season ended up dealing with an Entirely New Thing that as far as i know were just Introduced in the One Same Season, rather than just making use of the already Established Things from previous Seasons? I mean seriously, were the Whole Fairy Plotline/Origin something that was Planned from the Get-go?
@@johanstenfelt1206 The answer with Netflix is simple: you're never guaranteed another season. The fact that Dragon Prince was given a contract for all its seasons was earth-shattering and many other creators were rightfully pissed for their projects getting yoinked by Netflix before they had a chance to finish.
The showrunners were likely told that they could only bet on more season. Netflix wanted more, but a long-running series was never a sure thing. The showrunners and writers then went with the story and timeline that they felt best to conclude Hilda.
Just because someone is given one more season or one more to wrap everything up doesn't meant that they always stick the landing.
@@camillesharem hm, yeah, that sounds about right.
Still, that doesn’t answer the Fairy Stuff, did we get any hints towards Fairies in the Previous Seasons?
Holy cow, Hilda is not at all what I thought it was.
I’m definitely going to need to watch it soon.
The characters seem meaningful, the story is not only interesting, but the plot and the background sound really deep.
I want to create a story that revolves around backstory and lore, lore that the audience needs to figure out for themselves.
That’s why Dark souls hit so hard.
That’s why Elden Ring felt so immersive.
That’s why I still play Skyrim.
It’s so indescribably fun to figure out the lore behind the story. Discovering it for yourself gives you a sense of accomplishment that never gets old.
And a confrontation with abyssal entities never fails to give me chills.
Like I always say, “there’s no threat like a cosmic threat”.
Also, I just recently found an old project that I was working on over 5 years ago, and wow, it is *bad*
The story is actually really interesting, but damn, everything else made me want to vomit.
I bring this up now because I’m going to be picking it back up as practice for when I’m ready to animate Shadow Bound.
That’s right, a side project.
This story is called “Fable of the Hunter”.
It’s a story that I mostly came up with to test my knowledge of mythologies and legends of different cultures.
And there we go.
My three projects for 2024 are set up and ready to go. Any other story idea I come up with will have to sit on the sidelines and wait for a while.
I would have loved for them to explore the cosmic side a little more. But then again, despite my protests, this is a kids' show. Hahaha!
@@Iso20227 You're going to have a busy year! I have a couple of older, very badly written stories that I ended up cannibalizing for other story ideas after the fact. Which reminds me, if I'm lucky, I'll get to write a very wonky side story for next year's NaNoWriMo.
It amazes me that White Fire is born from a cannibalized story that I never finished, inspired by some very questionable artwork, which then got gunked up in the rough draft so badly that the whole story was derailed, which led to me writing Tumbleteller. And now I'm going to write another side story. Hahaha! And if none of that makes any sense, it's okay; White Fire's been in production hell for years!
@@camillesharem lol, I honestly forgot that it was a kids show.
But then again, so was Gravity Falls, and that got really disturbing at times. (The shapeshifter, Bill Cypher’s body horror, imminent destruction of the entire dimension, etc.)
And while my year may be busy, I hope for it to be very productive as well.
The more I look through “Fable of the Hunter” the more good ideas I find.
Like, some of these ideas are the classic 11-12 year old fantasies (friendly dragons, instant romance development, Majestic wolves that howl majestically at the majestic moon… majestically, etc), but if I take some of these ideas and even just twist them slightly, I can get some amazing plot out of them.
A peaceful and thriving race of happy little dragons? Well, how about an endangered race of dragons who have grown bitter and resentful towards humans for their hunting of their kin.
Majestic wolves? Well, heh, how about a Pterolycus instead? I used to think that people with a favorite animal or mythology were just weird, and then I found the Pterolycus. A *majestic* (I way overused that word) flying wolf. I gave it ice powers and “spark magic” which is basically just magic that makes a sparking sound.
And like Liam Vickers and his Wendigos, I suppose my trademark mythical creature is the Pterolycus.
I already have at least one Pterolycus in all of my important stories.
A wolf who howls at the moon and causes meteors to fall for no reason? Well, boom. That’s the main threat of the entire story now.
The Black Pterolycus hates humanity and seeks to gain the powers of the White Pterolycus so that he can combine them and use them to bring about “Moonfall” and kill all of the humans.
And even as I’ve been typing this out, I’ve been coming up with more and more of the story.
(Thank you 12 year old me for being so absolutely terrible at writing)
Quite the creative start to my year, and I’ll take that as a good sign.
(Happy New Year, by the way)
Hm, I see, now currently, as I am writing this, I have not yet seen Season 3 and have only seen one single Video about what the Episodes was about up to now and yeah, while I could understand that this did seem like a very well done and interesting (while also, perhaps, maybe a little too short) Season, what I couldn’t understand however was (ironically enough) just what kind of Finale we actually got, just what kind of Note did we End Everything on, did the Ending end up being a Open one or a more Complete one?
So, I really appreciate that you made this Video, because it kind of gave me a pretty good idea and it seems like we ended up getting a rather Open Ending for the Series Finale, now granted having a Open Ending as the Final Ending can be fine, especially if it’s done well, ‘cause like you said “you don’t have to Complete everything”,
but from what I get from this, is that perhaps, Hilda Season 3 Ended a little too open.
So, yeah, despite of having yet to actually have seen Season 3, based on what I have gathered so far, I can already understand what you mean and agree with you, when you’re going to End a Series, I feel like it should be pretty important that the Characters that have been portrayed as the Main Cast throughout the Entire Series should all at least have a Main Focus in the actual Finale,
On top of that, even when just watching a Video talking about the Episodes, even at that point I could feel like that what we got, while good and interesting, might not have been enough as a Finale and I feel like that is especially the case when said Final Season take place after a Timeskip, ‘cause from what I understand, what people usually like about Timeskips, is probably to see how it has effected and changed things with the Characters and the World they inhabit, it can be sort of required to reintroduce the World after doing a Timeskip, at least in my opinion,
Anyway, back on topic, even though we ended up learning more about Hilda’s Family Origins, while all of that might’ve been interesting, by the end of the day what does that really mean for Hilda herself in the Long-run? Honestly at this point, I can’t help but to wonder why they even bothered making a Final Season in the first place, I mean sure the Movie might’ve not been that good either with leaving things hanging, but feel like that at least felt a little more conclusive, I could be wrong about that though,
But anyway, I also don’t really know what i think or feel about how the whole Fairy Thing seems to be so Exclusive to Season 3, I mean were there any Foreshadowing or Mention or any Buildup at all to anything Fairy related in the First Two Seasons? I feel like it came a little out of nowhere which i feel like isn’t very fitting for a Final Season or Final Episodes or Final Anything really, especially not for a pretty well done Series, i feel like it would be more fitting for a Series Finale of any kind, be it Episodes or an Entire Season, to deal with something more familiar from at least a Previous Season or Two by the End if it all, now of course once again that could just be my opinion, but I do feel like that would be more fitting for a Final Season,
But regardless, I was hoping that the Finale of Hilda could been as well done as Amphibia’s and/or The Owl House’s, but it’s a Shame that ended up not being the case, welp at least it’s good to know that the Season in of itself turned out good enough.
By the way, on a Side-Note: when Season 3 was on it’s way, I was really wondering if the Marra was going to replace the Trolls as the most Major Recurring Antagonistic Force of the Series, I felt like they could’ve had a lot of potential for that, especially with how they tried to turn one of the Main Characters into one of them, so I was kind of hoping for them to step up their game, granted this hoping kind of dwindled after I realized Season 3 was going to take place after a Timeskip, of course them becoming more of a Major Antagonistic Force could probably still be done, but at that point you kind of gotta wonder why they didn’t step up their Game earlier in the Timeline,
But regardless, it seems like that the Marra really did end up being just a bunch of Mystical Teens who likes messing with People from time to time, who i guess were just supposed to a nuisance for the Main Characters from time to time,
Despite that though, i really wish we could’ve seen more from them and learned more about them, i thought they were so interesting and had a lot of potential, with their abilities and all, especially (like i said before) as Antagonists and probably would have been more fitting to deal with in the Final Season, just saying.
About something else entirely, about FanFictions, have you ever thought of doing FanFiction Reviews?
‘Cause there are some FanFiction Series that I would like to know other opinions on.
To answer your question, we used to do epic readings of bad fanfics and then break down why they didn't work. However, after a while we felt that we might be getting too mean with that, so we stopped. Instead, we decided to focus on far more polished and professional works to review and analyze.
@@camillesharem ah, I see, interesting, do you still do that then? What was the latest FanFic Review you did?
By the way, just curious, but did you read my entire Comment or just my Question?
@@johanstenfelt1206 I read your comment, which is how I got to your question. It's been a busy day and we don't always get around to writing essay responses! Haha! We do book reviews and manga reviews, no problem, but as for fanfiction, the last one that I have a record of us reviewing was One Less Lonely Gurl back in 2019. Yes, I spelled that right. In some videos I have taken swipes at aspects of fanfiction writing and particular examples, but it's been years since we last really dived into fanfiction review.
@@camillesharem hm, I see, in that case,
Have you ever heard of A Witch In Wartwood?
It’s a AU Story that I have been particularly interested in, but I don’t know for certain how well done it really is, so I would like to hear your opinions about it.
@@johanstenfelt1206 No, I have never read that one.
Would you think if Netflix gave Season 3 the full 13 episode season (and probably also 1 hour special finale), it would have a better chance at feeling more complete? Given the finale is the same, just with more buildup and additional stories. Or is an ending like this destined to feel more of a penultimate? Genuine question
That is an excellent question! If the final season had gotten 13 episodes and then the grand finale, it would have worked. Within those full 13 episodes, we could have gotten one Freida-dedicated episode, one for David, and finally one for Hilda that would fully setup the finale and show how she's grown.
Granted, they would have shuffle some stuff around and the writers would have to be more focused on that matter of wrapping up character arcs; they needed to be more cognizant of continuous character progression for the whole main cast! But yeah, a full run could have helped them wrap up everything.
My suggestion about facing the void is pure fan speculation and my own favorite headcanon based on the earlier episodes. The Fairy Isles was a good way to tie up everything, but it was the main cast who felt neglected in the sprint to do something awesome with Johanna's backstory.
I really liked the forgotten lake episode. The thing in that was just so cool.
That episode is in the contending for one of my favorites through the entire series. It was so cool! So spooky! And I loved Johanna's actions to save Hilda!
Chef's kiss
@@camillesharem Yea the fact that johanna was willing to die for hilda
my main issue with the ending, or I guess the whole series, is that, for lack of a better metaphor, the story looks at the world of Hilda through a very narrow lens. I understand that too much worldbuilding can ruin a story, but at the same time, sometimes the show feels like it throws something that in any other show would be an extremely important detail at you, then never brings it up again. this, in my opinion, creates the uncommon issue of too little worldbuilding. for example, the witches have what is basically a portal to hell directly under Trollberg, but it is only really relevant in one episode, and no one seems to concerned about it. or, an even better example, what the heck is a "wood man"? all of the other creatures in the show have roots in Norse mythology, (besides woffs and thunderbirds, but at least those are explained somewhat) he might be a dryad, really the only thing in mythology that is depicted somewhat like him, (Ents are not mythological in nature, as J.R.R. Tolkien made them up) but if so, he's a long way from Greece, if this world even has a Greece. And if the world of Hilda has a Greece, does that mean creatures from other mythologies are real in this world, too? what about Aztec mythology? is there a human rights crisis going on in Hilda's Mesoamerica? What about Egypt? Come to think of it, early Scandinavian paganism also practiced human sacrifice...
I'm sorry, that got very dark very quickly. but really, what does effect having all mythology being real have on a world? Hilda seems like a show that would tackle this, and yet it doesn't. it's still a great show though.
Hilda is a series that juggles stories appropriate for children with deeper themes about family, friends, belonging, and cosmic horror. Haha! There are so many horror elements within Hilda from body horror, jump scares, social problems (such as with the Mara), and then things get truly cosmic from time to time, where the reality is so dangerous and mind-bending. If we dig deeper, the world of Hilda becomes vast and spooky.
And I think that does fit the series overall, because Hilda is growing up and learning. All of this magic and all these creatures fill her with wonder and adventure. But the adults can see, and sometime Hilda gets it as well, that the world is far more dangerous than a child can comprehend or appreciate.
That horror aspect is part of the reason why I wanted Hilda to come to terms with growing up, finally accepting that the world is far more vast and dangerous than she wanted to believe, but perhaps still choosing love, beauty, and adventure. Season 3's ending definitely sets her up for that, but it never feels like she came to that exact conclusion. Some will argue that I am splitting hairs, and I think that that is great conversation to have!
fair enough.@@camillesharem
I always felt something huge was missing from Hilda. That something was off, that something needed to be explained or there were characters that needed context. I Sony know, is it just me?
There's definitely a lot left unsaid in Hilda that should have been said. Season 3 was a great concentrated story, but lost of a lot of the whimsy, grand scope, and adventure that built up the whole story. And Hilda needed to be somewhere different as a character after everything she went through. We see her maturing, but it's nebulous by the end.
Endings are hard...
@@camillesharem So what am I missing? It’s strange, I always felt like something was gone that should be there. They ended it well though.
Well, but not great.
idk i just randomly watched your vid but id defs read your fanfic! theres nowhere near enough good hilda fics or really any fan media for how beloved the show is, havent met anyone whos seen it who didnt love it
It is such a great series! I can't promise that fanfic anytime soon, but I'll do my best when I start writing it. Hilda deserves it! :)
How is the ending bad everyone is okay
As I said in the video, it left way too much open ended for the characters. Ending your series like that tends to leave people feeling underwhelmed.
It's been interesting to have this conversation with a lot of people, because some have said they agree and others don't. I think it comes down in part to what you expect from the characters and their journeys.
I can't call it bad or good, I can't call it anything because I couldn't even call it AN ENDING! It feels like it "ended" MID-STORY! They built such a world and a well structured story only to let us walk through the first 5 floors of the 20-story tower they built.