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Camille's Harem
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Camille's Harem is a channel by novice writers for ALL writers. Whether you are a novice just getting started, a published author looking for advice and camaraderie, or anywhere in between, this is the place for you! Because writing is an adventure, it's more fun with friends, and we want to be your friends and your fellow writing group. This channels looks at storytelling-related, from books to shows, from movies to anime, and from videogames to advice. We hope that our advice, our analyses and reviews, and yes, even our rants will help you and inspire you.
If you ever have any questions, any requests, or just want to share your story with someone, we are eager and ready to respond! Come and join us on this adventure we call writing.
If you ever have any questions, any requests, or just want to share your story with someone, we are eager and ready to respond! Come and join us on this adventure we call writing.
The Railroading Problem
Dungeons and Dragons Discussions - Railroading!
Railroading is when the Dungeon Master/Game Master throws character/player autonomy to the side in favor of furthering their story. It takes away from a lot of the fun that D&D should be. But as we look deeper into this issue, we begin to find some great ways in which we can improve our games and our STORIES!
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We want to help all authors, novice and experienced, young and old, network and receive the help they need to make their stories the best they can be! If you are interested, please let us know what kind of story you're writing, what kind of help you need, and what you hope to contribute to other writers. After all, writing is adventure that is more fun with friends! We look forward to hearing from you!
Video Clips:
Elden Ring, created by FromSoftware, produced 2022, Shadow of the Erdtree, 2024, game play footage by Lars.
All rights belong to the creators of the clips and artwork used in this video, but they are implemented under Section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976. As an aside, despite the Harem’s personal views on certain stories, we highly recommend you check these stories and shows out. It will help improve our future conversations with you, and they will help inspire your writing. It has for us.
Railroading is when the Dungeon Master/Game Master throws character/player autonomy to the side in favor of furthering their story. It takes away from a lot of the fun that D&D should be. But as we look deeper into this issue, we begin to find some great ways in which we can improve our games and our STORIES!
If you would like to support us, please consider buying a copy of Monarch Mercenaries: Autonomy: www.amazon.com/Monarch-Mercenaries-Autonomy-Lars-Jensen/dp/B0CGL4FLVW
Notice Me, Send Pie: www.amazon.com/Notice-Send-Pie-Lars-Jensen/dp/B0C7JCPNFR/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2256I9ZS0SS43&keywords=notice+me+send+pie&qid=1686730152&sprefix=notice+me+send+pie%2Caps%2C154&sr=8-1
Tumbleteller: www.amazon.com/dp/B0BNGRYVM9?ref_=pe_3052080_397514860&fbclid=IwAR2lORiXFCoUyySd0ddCOQBnU2Zsj7Se-pu_sNg4e6RtAoCyy7_y1bq5f24
Knights of Halicruz: www.amazon.com/Knights-Halicruz-Legend-Lords-Book-ebook/dp/B08Z8DRH9Y/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&qid=1616260564&refinements=p_27%3ALars+Jensen&s=books&sr=1-1
Bleed Steam n’ Steel: www.amazon.com/Bleed-Steam-Steel-Lars-Jensen/dp/B09JJCC97D/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&qid=1635747823&qsid=138-6933909-2487100&refinements=p_27%3ALars+Jensen&s=books&sr=1-1&sres=B09JJCC97D%2C8799726963%2C1543045162%2C1684051339%2CB09K83K55J%2CB09K8DY5Q4%2CB09K82Z3YN%2C188847288X%2C0367418053%2CB08ZBJ4PNW%2CB099NVJ65B%2CB07QD6PZND%2C1631406728%2C1631409328%2C113858911X%2CB01BNUXVMY
Check out more writing advice at Camille’s Harem: iTunes at podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/camilles-harem/id1341500792?mt=2
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN OUR DISCORD SERVER, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US IN THE COMMENTS:
We want to help all authors, novice and experienced, young and old, network and receive the help they need to make their stories the best they can be! If you are interested, please let us know what kind of story you're writing, what kind of help you need, and what you hope to contribute to other writers. After all, writing is adventure that is more fun with friends! We look forward to hearing from you!
Video Clips:
Elden Ring, created by FromSoftware, produced 2022, Shadow of the Erdtree, 2024, game play footage by Lars.
All rights belong to the creators of the clips and artwork used in this video, but they are implemented under Section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976. As an aside, despite the Harem’s personal views on certain stories, we highly recommend you check these stories and shows out. It will help improve our future conversations with you, and they will help inspire your writing. It has for us.
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Huh, fair points and opinions, have to say DnD is such a interesting thing, especially when it’s adapted into a different Medium, Say do you know of any of the Pokémon DnDs that can be found on TH-cam? Anyway, I have asked this in a previous Comment, but I don’t know if you noticed it, so just to make sure, How has things gone with Gildedguy? Are you done or do you still have some left?
thank god it didn't happen
Bro really said “DONT KILL MY R#P15T”
My balls hurt
It’s just the simple fact that orihime which I love is a pretty simple shonen love interest where she shows interest and affection for ichigo that’s pretty one sided where ichigo cares for her and definitely is close with her his dynamic and connection to Rukia was more fleshed out more like a shojo couple they had more chemistry emotional connection and development as a paring not to mention the banter and how much they hang out how Kubo fleshes out scenes with them one on one if writers always do this and it’s kinda annoying I’m fine with Rukia just being a friend lord knows we need more character pairings of platonic friendship the issue is when that pairing is more interesting fleshed out equal and entertaining than your main love interest dynamic especially since it’s canon now I don’t have an issue with ichihime at all but yeah ichiruki forever ☀️ 🌙
Very well put! I would be just fine with Ichihime in the long run if Kubo had given Orihime more character development, but especially if he had just evolved their relationship more. All the care and chemistry went to Ichigo and Rukia. And the results are definitely something that other creators and writers should learn from!
@@camillesharemkubo did developed orihime the whole series, she started as a dependant girl weak and insecure of herself until she grew strong and secure of herself to know her role, all that care and chemistry that you said went to ichigo and rukia was treated as platonic, the result is that if creators want to make platonic relationships they can do it if they still make sure which characters are supposed to be the end game and thats what kubo did.
Orihime was more than just a love interest and the relationship in a romantic aspect was worked more for them due to their interactions, is in the manga
“Im not a Halfling.. I’m a Ssssssssstttttttttttooooooooooward of Gondorrrrrrrrr”
If that's the case, we now know where Gondor was when the Westfold fell. A dehydrated moron was leading them! Haha!
That's horrible, storytelling is supposed to make you think. If it's controversial or dated, okay, good that's a conversation, if they aren't there is some date, time and place where it would be, and stories are power, access to new perspectives, that's why I love old dated books, because they have such different takes.
I can’t find it
What is this series I am new to this
It's really a bummer what they did to the Numenoreans. There was a time when I was excited about this show and thought how cool it would be to see how they handle the Numenoreans in comparison to the regular humans. I eventually realized everyone on here is just a human in different clothing
I'm even fine with them being slightly smaller on screen, really. I mean, camera perspective goes a long way to make short people seem tall, but whatever. I wanted to see the majesty, the nobility, and the awe of Numenor and its people. Not even the wide shots in season 1 captured that. The city looked old and decaying. It was a relic of a deteriorating past. The show runners wanted Greek-inspired Gondor rather than medieval, magical Atlantis. Or even non-decaying Gondor if they just want to continue ripping off Jackson's trilogy... It's sad to see how this show that had so much potential ended up.
Dial down the energy. 5 mins in and listening to you is exhausting 😂
Celebrimbum!
They should have just made this a comedy spoof
That would have been fantastic! Hahaha! Then everyone would be praising every violation of the lore as an intelligent joke. Just add wonky noises to everything Guyladirel does, and it'd be perfect!
@@camillesharem Absolutely. If they’re honest with themselves about their own level of talent, they wouldn’t take themselves so seriously. They’re more like Seth McFarlane than Hitchcock
@@hvitekristesdod Ugh... When I heard that they compared themselves to Hitchcock, I had to roll my eyes and laugh out loud. The best thing for any creator to do is be themselves. And if Hitchcock or Tolkien were legit influences on them, then it would be nice to see them honoring either guy through their storytelling! Well... I'm not seeing it!
Shakespeare was not old English, it was early modern English.
It’s really annoying how every time this comes up, people will go “no its just the anime, not the manga, it was filler and changed” and like, Naw dog. I didn’t watch the anime. I read the manga. It’s still there.
What manga did bro read Peroxide💀 Lets not forget the whole Hueco Mundo arc and tybw development with Ichigo and Orihime's relationship
Then you are not being truthfull cause the manga never had those interactions with ichigo and rukia
@@carlsalba ??? By “it’s still there” I mean the chemistry, not literally that the filler is there. I didn’t even specify what interactions I’m talking about but you immediately went “no it’s just filler those interactions aren’t there”. Which interactions? I don’t know, because again, *I didn’t watch the anime, I read the manga*. You are exactly proving my point. You’re annoying.
@@SMT_Bleachfan I read Bleach, but crucially, I read it above a 6th grade level. It’s funny how much a story or piece of art will change if you examine it with any kind of depth.
@@TheLordGojira ? What depth are you talking about?
The "WALKING" has to be an idiotic and slowest way to go! Did the only horses die with the messengers !!
No, and that's what makes it even dumber! We know the elves will call in the cavalry, and we see horsemen messengers in the background as Elrond and Guyladariel are talking over their flimsy, floppy, faux fellowship! Hahahaha! The writers really are that dumb.
A romatic ecounter... but how old are the stinking hobbits? Early teens? Late teens? Are they adults already? It's so unconfortable, is it an innocent crush between children or the begining of a potential sexual relationship? I've no idea, they dont have discernable breasts so they haven't been through puberty yet, wich means her parents let their pre-pubescent child go with a literal stranger to god knows where and que are supposed to pretend that it's bravery and not a bunch of gullible little twats.
They couldn't have made the Stoors look any more ridiculous than they did. The whole show is ridiculous, really.
Honestly, if we want to talk about negative stereotypes and racial depictions, Rings of Power is more blatant than half of the stuff in the 80s and 90s. I feel bad for the actors who've been degraded this way.
Kubo did what so many mangaka do, Orihime = Masaki and Ichigo = Isshin to just loop back around and "correct history" so that their kid will have the childhood they were denied. And you know in the end the kid will end up another "chosen one". IshiHime NEVER made sense beyond fanservice, and it would've been nice to see her with Ishida or Ulquiorra (better character play off and development in those ships- I mean the fics are like sagas). As for Renji- who I absolutely fangirl over- he needed A LOT more maturation! I honestly didn't see him with anybody in the end, and hoped he would be leading his own squad in the Gotei 13 (do I acknowledge he loved Rukia, yes, but I also think Byaukya would've been a speed bump since he does take his relationship with his adopted sister very seriously).
Are you ok? Orihime with ishida or ulquiorra? What series were you watching?
And ichigo and orihime had better play offs and character ship.development than anything she had with those two.why do you lie?
How did they survive a tornado 🌪️?
PLOT ARMOR! It negates all damage that the plot doesn't want and erases all negative consequences from bad choices that don't serve the angst Hollywood loves so much! It can be yours for 750 million to ONE billion dollars!
Music, cinematography all good Costumes, cast, script, diversity = unwatchable 😮
The showrunners are seriously untalented and not qualified for the job despite the support of good scoring and visual handling. Nothing can make up for lack of talent in storycraft. Honestly, if they simply kept the Elven look from Tolkien- the straight hair and fair-folk look, it would somehow be bearable because at least it bridges itself to what was established. They decided they knew better and hence we are left with an unwatchable soggy turd.
It's sad to know that this is the result of them working for 12 years in the industry, plus supposedly working on their own stories since high school. That is longer than I have been writing, and yet I have nine books to show for it and most of them are objectively better written than this show... It comes down to their hubris. they thought they could match or exceed Tolkien and do it with barely a fraction of the effort he put into his own stories. Have they ever really edited any of their own works before? Have they ever seriously taken criticism and outside opinions before? Have they ever tried to write something that was hard for them, outside of their wheelhouse? I unfortunately don't see any of the recognizable hallmarks of someone who is earnestly trying to improve their craft, as opposed to someone like JRR Tolkien! So yeah, there's nothing in this show that can save it from the bad writing that permeates the plot, the characters, and the dialogue. The visuals can only take them so far.
Actually, let them rrrroll those Rrrrrs. Rolled Rs in Tolkienian names are about the only lore-accurate thing in this show.
2:09 Yes. We are about 90%(give or take) to the One Piece.
Romance that never existed in manga and Novels lol
Your critique of this episode is more entertaining than the episode itself 😂
Hahaha! Thanks! Humor is the best way to get through this.
The amount of dull witted people who are saying this isnt that bad is astonishing 😂😂😂.
That comes from so much of the world getting inundated with bad storytelling for years at this point... I've been having this conversation a lot recently, we've been getting few and few great books, comics, movies, and shows for at least 5 years now. We can even trace the decline to nearly a decade ago! And when you're so used to consuming poorer stories, it gets harder and harder to realize when one is outright bad!
@@camillesharem I think you are right.
Probably a controversial opinion: I think this show was doomed from the start by trying to make Sauron/Annatar a character and focusing on him. Even if they did had good writers and all the rights to make a faithful adaptation of the 2nd age. Imo, what made Sauron so iconic and terrifying is neither the heroes nor readers get to see him up close and in person in the LOTR. Even in the Silmarillion, there's barely much about his backstory and his crimes during the 1st Age. I think this works because Sauron represents the Satanic archetype, and when you try to make him an actual character instead of a sinister force of evil, you will inevitably diminish him. Think of how good horror movies don't show the monster until the very end. I think of Sauron that way. The horror and dread comes from what we DON'T see him do, but only hear about in hushed whispers. He's a character best left off page and off screen for most of the time. I think this could have been rectified by focusing on the haradrim and easterlings and how their lives have been affected by sauron, and how some of them try to resist his tyranny with the help of the blue wizards. We know Tolkien was inspired by Asian and African countries for the East and South, and there's a plethora of real world history and mythology to use as inspiration for incredible new stories in middle earth.
You make an excellent point. Sauron is this ultimate, nigh-unstoppable evil. What we do get of his backstory from Tolkien makes him tragic because he is essentially a fallen angel. But that would require them to really dig deep before the First Age. Sauron is very active and present throughout the Second Age, so any show set during that time would have him as a big player. I think what would have worked well would have been to have Annatar be there almost from the get-go, and make him super likable. Meanwhile have Mordor and Sauron active, and misdirect the normies who don't know any better and the fans can wait with bated breath from the inevitable betrayal. That is still enjoyable! And then you have the haunt of knowing that something awful is coming. After that, focus solely on the heroes while Sauron looms over everything as the big bad causing chaos and destruction. The show really missed out on an opportunity with season 1 to show us all the different kingdoms of men and dwarves, so we could get to know them and feel bad for them when they succumb to Annatar's temptations. But at this rate? We don't know who these people are and we won't feel bad for them getting tricked.
Wow man listening to you is seriously more interesting than watching this cringe show…like for real didn’t anyone during production at any point laugh and say “Hold up everyone this is pretty cheesy? And not in a cute and good way”…you’re rolling your eyes the whole time…
I heard some great commentary last night that said if this show leaned into being cheesy and had a Hercules or Xena, Warrior Princess kind of opening and vibe, that far more people would love it. I might push back on that claim a little, but really, a few good tweaks and this would be a hilarious melodramatic parody! It was also sad when gathering clips for this video. It's clear that the production and makeup crews have been having fun. The work that went into the barrow wights is impressive! And it's all lost because the lighting is terrible and cinematography is just so choppy and awful... Compare that to the love that went into crafting the LOTR sets and costumes, and how the lighting and camera work praise all that effort. The contrast is stark! And that's to say nothing of the writing, or the acting, or the direction, or the plot in general...
I also misheard that dumb quote. I was sure Knockoff Saruman said that he would only heal the mask people after they found the harfoots (now they're called halflings). I don't know what he meant and I absolutely do not care lol
I actually would care if this show made any of its character sustainably likeable! Chad Elrond is an improvement, but I have no confidence he will stay that way before Girl Boss Guyladariel puts him in his place... Also, why is their armor giving off such a steampunk vibe? If you want full-plated armor to cover people up, then use the Asia Minor cataphracts as inspiration! At least they would look super cool and imposing! But as for mishearing the quote, I have to in part chalk it up to the bad dialogue and in part to me not caring. Haha!
Poor serial complainers......90% of the viewers are not familiar with the LOTR lore and are enjoying immensely the show , hence the tens of millions of streams . If you are not enjoyng the show the solution is simple ....DON'T watch it .
To paraphrase an excellent comment, "This burden must be borne, even all the way to Mount Doom." Rings of Power lost over 60% of its audience during the first season. According to current analytics, it lost half of its remaining audience before episode 4 premiered. The tens of millions of views season 1, episode 1 received has been knocked down to the same numbers as popular indie shows here on TH-cam. And even with the controversies surrounding something like Murder Drones' finale, I guarantee you that Murder Drones is getting more positive buzz than Rings of Power. Now, why do I keep watching, reviewing, and analyzing? Because if I don't watch it or if I just hate it, I actually support all the bad writing that Hollywood insists is a masterpiece. It is not. And these videos, where I even review it as its own original story and provide creative feedback and writing advice, are designed to highlight that Hollywood is wrong. Furthermore, it is clear that you either didn't watch my video through or pay attention, because you would hear my praise for ROP where is succeeds and does well, and where it does adhere to Tolkien's canon. Which again, most other reviewers don't do! But Rings of Power can no longer hide behind supposed tens of millions of views. It's not getting those any more. And if that is what people want to argue, then we have to accept before the whole world that a silly show like The Amazing Digital Circus is more popular than anything any other studio is doing, including Rings of Power, and is making more money than most of Hollywood right now. And that is a public fact!
@@camillesharem Sorry mate , you wouldn't expect a serious person reading a 3000 word essay from a troll who spends his sad waking hours trying to bad mouth a show which was the SECOND most watched show on the planet this week.
@@camillesharem And if you must know ...YES , more than 11 million streams for these first 4 chapters . And that's Prime streams .....You can be sure of many millions of unnacounted views from alternative platforms (like myself)
@@Enfin158 That's less than Murder Drones' finale. That's less than Lackadaisy. That's a 1/30 of the viewership for TADC. All of which were done on a smaller budget, with better writing, and actually made their creators money. And while 11 million official views is impressive, that is an 89% reduction from the show's premiere. If you lost 89% of your audience, that is devastating. A stand-up comedian who loses 89% of their audience just bombed. If 89% of Disney park visitors left and didn't come back, the company would start flirting with bankruptcy. If Game of Thrones had lost 89% of its paying audience on HBO from season 1 to season 2, the show would not have made it to the Red Wedding. 11 million is an impressive number all by itself. When put into context, Amazon would never celebrate that. Especially after all their bragging from season 1. This then begs the question: Why did 89% of the paying audience abandon the series?
@@Enfin158 Hahaha! I love how you're trying to insult me when I haven't once insulted people who enjoy this show and have always been eager to engage in conversations with them. Both online and in person. If you really want to know, I spend my many happy and productive hours going on hikes, currently writing the rough draft for my sixth book in the Legend of the Ten Lords, playing with my cats, talking writing with my writing groups, playing D&D, getting my butt kicked in Elden Ring, and I'm getting ready to publish my first murder-mystery! It's going to be AWESOME! Hope you're enjoying life as much as I am.
Did you break into my house and smear vaseline all over my monitor? My head hurts now.
Unfortunately, when Kubo made the shounen best friend a girl, he forgot that it meant that the homoerotic bromance the protag always has with that character was now just one of the best straight romances you can find in the shounen genre
Hahahaha! I love that! You're spot-on.
Romance? But they were never set as a romance, it doesnt even feel like one, like you said it feels like a best friends chemistry or family
@@camillesharemnot really cause ichigo and rukia do not feel like a couple because there were never hints of love and romantic.chemistry between them.
@@carlsalba I don’t know what your definition of romance is, but to me, connecting on a deep emotional level, sharing mutual understanding of each other at their core, and developing a supportive partnership based on each other’s wants and needs are the best foundations of a truly legendary romance. Your romantic partner SHOULD feel like your best friend, but even more so. Ichigo doesn’t have that with Orihime. He notices things about her, and she notices things about him but they never quite connect, and that’s honestly so sad. Ichigo and Orihime’s romantic arcs are both weirdly one-sided since they’re never in a position where they share their feelings in a reciprocal way, which is an important facet of depicting mutual love. Like I understand Orihime loves Ichigo, and I can see times where Ichigo notices Orihime or thinks she’s kind of cute, but their relationship isn’t deep or profound on a spiritual self-actualized level And I get it, in the end, male shounen writers just kind of suck at romance. They don’t know how to do it and tends to just default to separating the protag and love interest specifically so they don’t have to actually write it. But the ending consequence is that the protagonist ends up with deep heart rending relationships with their best friends, mentors, rivals, and villains, and at best a passable fairly shallow relationship with their main love interest, even though the love interest should arguably have one of if not the most profound relationship with the protagonist. That’s why they’re in love
@@Tenshi6Tantou6Rei Very compelling
Why are there black Elves and Asian elves!!!!
Because Amazon's HR department demanded it. I would love to see a story with diverse elves where those elves have their own unique cultures and languages. That would be super cool! The problem is that these people are shoehorning in faux diversity, falling for the same stereotypical tropes as before, and neither honoring Tolkien nor people of color.
@@camillesharem It sucks. Aye.
They couldn't of cast a more boring and generic acter to play tom bombadil
Well, if you google Mike Myers in Love Guru and do a side by side comparison between him and Tom Bombadil, the likeness is enough to make me giggle every time I see him, so that at least makes it a little fun, sadly for all the wrong reasons🙂 Also, I can't NOT see the Love Guru when I see him, so he's pretty much ruined forever😂
@@troillmainn yeah mike myers would of been great as bombadil
@@johnshepard8556 Mike Meyers as Tom Bombadil almost sounds inspired. Hahaha!
@@camillesharem if they were allowed to of used the character 20 plus years ago for jacksons films i am sure he would of been in the running to play him and it woukd of been at the height of his austin powers fame
@@johnshepard8556 If nothing else, I'm pretty sure he'd at least be very merry and give us a decent laugh or two. Listening to this Tom and his weird accent only makes me long for the next horrible scene😂
Jim Morrison Tom bombadil
I’m staying positive Trying to stick with that “the bad stuff makes the good stuff gooder” mantra ;)
It's definitely made me appreciate the books and Jackson's trilogy way more! Also, the existence of Rings of Power in many ways helps to explain why indie projects like Murder Drones and The Amazing Digital Circus have such a large adult fanbase.
I would have loved to do an Aragorn series before he embarked on the journey to destroy the ring. See his love for Arwen grow, his reluctance to accept his role as the future king, his friendship with Legolas, Gandalf, etc.
There's talk about such a series. From the sound of it, the Hunt for Gollum movies are supposed to be an introduction to younger Aragorn so they can test the waters if the public will want to watch his story. Personally, I'd rather have his show than a movie focused on Gollum's wandering and Gandalf's hunt for him.
@@camillesharem I heard about that. I’m surprised they haven’t done a sequel trilogy. Lord of the Rings: The Dark Awakens. Lord of the Rings: The Last Elf Lord of the Rings: Rise of Men
@@johnwells5414 Hahahaha! Oh, I bet Warner Bros has thought about it! Thankfully, or not depending on your perspective, they've been too busy ruining DC Comic movies to get that far ahead in bleeding Tolkien's imagination dry!
@@camillesharem They are just reaching with the DC world lol! Superman looks more like a reaction to Snyder’s version, they’re doing another Batman movie separate from ‘The Batman’ so they can have a main universe Batman that will probably be another older, seasoned crime fighter, who’s now “self aware”….
@@johnwells5414 Like you said, they're just reaching... Honestly, unless they do anything more with Robert Pattinson, they need to give the DC comic movies a rest and figure out what their long-term plans should be. They don't need to worry about the MCU because that is unraveling before our eyes!
The initial seperation of the Ents and the Entwives is here: "...the Ents loved the great trees, and the wild woods, and the slopes of the high hills; and they drank of the mountain-streams, and ate only such fruit as the trees let fall in their path; and they learned of the Elves and spoke with the Trees. But the Entwives gave their minds to the lesser trees, and to the meads in the sunshine beyond the feet of the forests; and they saw the sloe in the thicket, and the wild apple and the cherry blossoming in spring, and the green herbs in the waterlands in summer, and the seeding grasses in the autumn fields.... So the Entwives made gardens to live in. But we Ents went on wandering, and we only came to the gardens now and again... Then when the Darkness came in the North, the Entwives crossed the Great River, and made new gardens, and tilled new fields, and we saw them more seldom." LotR, Treebeard The *Darkness* here is a reference to Morgoth (presumably his return to Middle-earth after his imprisonment in Aman).
Thank you for correcting me and my assumptions! I followed that quote back into the Two Towers. Yes, Morgoth's return prompted a greater separation and Sauron's destruction of the Entwive's gardens drove them further out of the Brown Lands. So 'Old Man Ironwood' could very well be a leftover of those times. But that's the kind of thing that had the writers really made their version of Tom Bombadil dive into that, some cool connections to the Ents and highlighting Sauron's evil would have made those scenes carry real weight and punch, both narratively and lore-wise. I let my mind run wild with the details relayed by Sam about one of his neighbors seeing a tree get up and walk just at the borders of the Shire, and the Old Forest very obviously having a connection to the old Ent gardens. It would be nice to think that some Entwives might have made their way in the direction of the Shire, but that is a mystery likely known only to Tolkien himself.
Nope the darkness refrerred to is the rise of Sauron as new dark lord, who destroyed most probably the gardens of the entwives to stop the last alliance of elves and men in a place later called the brown lands. The entwives dissapeared at the end of the second age.
@@christianefiorito3204 The phrase is: "Then when the Darkness came in the North". The Darkness is Morgoth. cf: "the people of the Three Houses of the Elf-friends who came west into Beleriand in the First Age, and aided the Eldar in the War of the Great Jewels against the Dark Power of the North." ...and "The Orcs were first bred by the Dark Power of the North in the Elder Days." App. F When the Darkness came in the North, i.e. Morgoth, the Ent-wives crossed the Great River, i.e. the Anduin, thus moving further away from the Darkness, into what would later become the Brown Lands. This is a First Age narrative. The Second Age narrative starts in the following sentences.
In his travels to the dreaded Mordor, a bead of sweat ran down Lars' head as he wore the dreaded Ring Of Power around his neck. He could feel the heat of the volcano that was this ring's destination come ever closer, bringing what would've been a sense of dread. Instead, it brought the thought of relief from stunted storylines, wacky wordplay and nonsensical acting. Lars held up the ring in his hand, shaking at the very thought of wearing it and giving in to his basic senses. But no, he swallowed and immediately shook the thought out of his mind, hiding the ring back in his shirt, and pushing on towards the volcano. The end was ever on Lars' mind, giving him focus and a resolution...to end his review, self respect for great storytelling restored.
Hahaha! Thanks! This is why I go through this torment! The great comments and also because someone needs to stand up for better storytelling. Simply hating or mocking the show actually gives the lazy and sometimes insidiously bad writing more power, because it is not confronted with better writing and insights. Bad storytelling has become so prevalent in recent years that we risk it becoming normalized and pure genius from authors like Tolkien getting forgotten or ridiculed. And so, I will bear this burden and throw it into the Fires of Mount Doom! Even if it takes five seasons worth of adventuring.
@@camillesharem Five seasons...ouch!! Glad you're up for it and that you enjoyed my little story comment. I'll watch as long as you make em'.
@@ART1984able That was a very enjoyable read! It put a much-needed smile on my face. :)
Children of Hurin is a more pleasant time than this show.
Ouch! And that's saying something when Tolkien's grim-dark plot line is more enjoyable!
I wouldn' t go as far as that. The children of Hurin are also pretty damn depressing and Turin Turambar is a it of a dick. But at least it is written well and not totally dumb and contradictory
@@christianefiorito3204 Thank you! Turin Turambar is an absolute dick and totally brought on most of his own grief and suffering. When people praise him as a hero on par with Beren, I have to roll my eyes. It is an intense story though, and if properly adapted would certainly be the 'Game of Thrones' that Jeff Bezos and pals wanted out of acquiring rights to Middle Earth. Maybe they should have dropped more cash to acquire parts of the Silmarillion... Hahaha, no thanks!
I enjoyed that book.
@@ivankadump2539 One of these days, I'll have to do a mini series of grim dark analyses. The Children of Hurin is on that list!
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This video has just became a commonplace for Ichiruki Shippers to Circlejerk around while actual jerking too of course, and if you guys really do want some copium then i guess you can hope ichika and kazui end up together at this point.
Great review as always Lars. For my thoughts on the finale, l am honestly blown away that they were able to wrap up things in just 20 mins like holy shoot. This episode had one of the best fight scenes and animation quality in the whole series, also the nighcore song is such a bop. I also can't believe the theories were true that V will come back and will ride a sentinel lol l did not expect it to be real. And the NUzi scenes are always the best 💜💛 l'm glad these dorks are finally dating, we've been waiting for 3 yrs for them to be together and it's worth it. Khan & Nori reuniting was very funny and cute. We finally got to see how terryfying Cyn is, like she is just too OP but also creepily cute. She's honestly one of the best parts in this finale and definitely stole the show. Although it's sad V can't be with N, however we can clearly see in the classroom she is sharing earphones with Lizzy and Lizzy leaned into V to see what's inside the paper plane. There's also one shot of just the four of them with N&Uzi dancing in the sky and V & Lizzy dinositting and playing chess, kinda like a double date. Every end credits shot, they are always seen doing together so I think it's implied that they're a thing. So in a way, V does find happiness. But one of the things l love about this ep is we finally got to learn more about J as a character and her motivation though sadly we do not see how her arc has concluded just like all the other side characters. This finale was incredible, sorry my ramblings are so long lol. I'm so glad l discovered this show and have been with it til the end. l am so glad to be a part of this awesome community and also what brought me to your channel. Even though it's over, l'll never forget it and will always have a special place in my heart (just like Uzi with solver *giggle*)
Hahaha! I will take my V returns theories all the way to the bank! I don't know if they'll give me any money for it though... The ending was spectacular on a lot of fronts. And where it fell short, it wasn't derailing. Liam did a good job with what he had and I am very proud of him and Glitch. And there was a ton for everyone to enjoy. :) It's been great having you along for the ride as well! And now it's on to writing up that massive retrospective! This is going to take a while... But Murder Drones is worth it!
i hate ep8 and im tired of pretending like i dont. Alright there is cool fighting and more nuzi but what more? This episode revealed nothing from the lore that we didnt already guess (V still loves N was pushing him away to protect him). We got 0 backstory on cyns motive or her relationship with the AS, did cyn want it? Did she wish for this whole thing to happen? Is cyn its only vessel? The only thing we know is that cyn possibly wants revenge because she got disposed of. I dont know why they would do this. They surely dont think we would just ignore the lore as the show clearly conveys that it is not for kids. Aaaaand the ending sucked
If you didn't like it, that's fine. But I never realistically expected to get anything more Absolute Solver, its origins, or its motivations. That's antithetical to a Lovecraftian horror story. People fear what they don't understand, and we are never meant to understand the eldritch gods and their natures. Would I have loved to get more? Sure! And it should have been longer. And as far as we can tell with Cyn, the first she wanted was to not be alone. That was what invited Absolute Solver in. It then twisted and warped her personality and motivations as it inhabited her, taking those desires to not be alone and not wanting to be disposed of, transforming them into the desire to kill others and perversely keep around the people closest to her thanks to Absolute Solver's own desire to consume everything. Like any good Lovecraftian story the lore is in the observation. Now, I can totally understand where people feel that the rest of the cast got done dirty because they were not given much time at all or a real chance to shine and culminate their character arcs. And those feelings are absolutely justified.
@@camillesharem a characters/entitys backstory is what makes it a good character or antagonist. There are either bad antagonists that just want to kill like esdeath from akame ga kill, or ones with such great motives conveyed by their backstory like eren yeager that would spark a national moral debate. It seems like we need to know more about the origin of the AS and not just have it hanging there. The ending feels like AOTs season 1 ending that goes like "yea everything is fine for now at least". Yet they still didnt knkw anything about the titans
@@onabs7107 Normally, yes. What makes a good villain is its character, encompassing its personality, history, motivations, relationships, etc. But because this is a Lovecraftian horror, those rules can be thrown out the window. Liam played fast and loose with those parameters by giving Absolute Solver an amalgamated personality that developed with the people it consumed, which in turn made loads of people either like Cyn or really want that runt to get squashed. He did what Lovecraft would never have done and made an eldritch entity personable. Now then, going that far creates the expectations that we would get more of her character. But because Liam was always developing this story as a Lovecraftian tale, the monster CANNOT be explained. That removes its mystique which is essential to the fear it induces in the cast and audience. So the debate that does open up is was Liam wrong to make Absolute Solver an entity that could have feelings and personality or was it the right move. For a good comparison, you can check Murder Drones against another cosmic horror: The Thing.
@@camillesharem the fact that the main protagonist and some other characters could use that demonic power to their advantage reduces its horror factor to near zero. It feels like in the realm of robots, stuff like that must have an explanation that isnt supernatural such as a failed human experiment that went rogue or smth. All we can do is speculate. That would make for a good plot twist, seeing what task were the humans interested in solving. Could it be fighting some ancient form of extraterrestial entity?
It would be interesting to make a continuation. However, I feel that the element of mystery of not knowing exactly what happened at the end is also interesting. If the series end here which is more likely I prefer ending 2, because even if Uzi ends up being consumed at least she could have closure and happiness for a while. Because you could say that the end (when she is in the locker) is a nightmare that she has when she is sleeping, and is like the solver slowly consuming her. If you think about it is not that different as ending three because at the end she is like very slowly dying, and that is also similar to be in a comma, or is just a snapshot of what is happening to her internally. Murder drones was a very interesting journey. I feel that the other episodes have also general flaws. Sometimes the pacing is too fast, sometimes you need more character moments etc…. But, at the end of the day, MD gave me a very interesting experience and combination of horror, sci-fi, cringe teens? xD. I enjoyed it a lot even with its imperfections and lacking elements. I recently rewatched all after the end and it was a good experience, and I can agree if they decided to center in what they could do even if they let things behind.
I find it very interesting to see people choose the different ending interpretations I've posed. I think it says something about the creative spark in each of us, about how we might tell the same story. Alas for poor Uzi! Haha! I'm glad that you gave Murder Drones a try. It was a very interesting story and definitely something made for younger audiences. However, it is great to see that other creators are actively trying to make stories and shows for a more younger, but still mature audience. Murder Drones was definitely an exercise in what can be done when blending teenage humor and horror! And I think it puled it off a lot better than most other stories.
I never considered Unchanging as a protagonist paradigm. Thanks for educating!
Sure thing! It's a character concept that I feel really needs to be explained further in a future video. It's also going to be one that earns me tons of flack from anime fans! Hahaha...
@@camillesharem hmmm you know, I wonder if there is a cultural difference that makes it such a common or beloved character archetype in Japan.
@@benruniko From my limited understanding, it is a sign that someone has real strength of character and conviction to not be swayed. Loyalty is heavily prized in Japanese culture. Loyalty to yourself when you're expected to bend and bow to society is especially big! BUT it does require you to have admirable qualities and values for that unchangeable personality to really be revered. Which is why the unchanging protagonist must constantly fight bad guys who challenge their world view and values. For N, this works here in Murder Drones because what is being challenged is his innate goodness, and we see that even all that torture and all those awful memories being unlocked doesn't break him. Absolute Solver has muddled his mind, but it never understood that it couldn't break who he really is. Though, to be fair, Uzi does help out a lot with that.