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Very well put! I would be just fine with Ichihime in the long run if Kubo had given Orihime more character development, but especially if he had just evolved their relationship more. All the care and chemistry went to Ichigo and Rukia. And the results are definitely something that other creators and writers should learn from!

​@@camillesharemkubo did developed orihime the whole series, she started as a dependant girl weak and insecure of herself until she grew strong and secure of herself to know her role, all that care and chemistry that you said went to ichigo and rukia was treated as platonic, the result is that if creators want to make platonic relationships they can do it if they still make sure which characters are supposed to be the end game and thats what kubo did.

Orihime was more than just a love interest and the relationship in a romantic aspect was worked more for them due to their interactions, is in the manga

If that's the case, we now know where Gondor was when the Westfold fell. A dehydrated moron was leading them! Haha!

I'm even fine with them being slightly smaller on screen, really. I mean, camera perspective goes a long way to make short people seem tall, but whatever. I wanted to see the majesty, the nobility, and the awe of Numenor and its people. Not even the wide shots in season 1 captured that. The city looked old and decaying. It was a relic of a deteriorating past. The show runners wanted Greek-inspired Gondor rather than medieval, magical Atlantis. Or even non-decaying Gondor if they just want to continue ripping off Jackson's trilogy... It's sad to see how this show that had so much potential ended up.

That would have been fantastic! Hahaha! Then everyone would be praising every violation of the lore as an intelligent joke. Just add wonky noises to everything Guyladirel does, and it'd be perfect!

@@camillesharem Absolutely. If they’re honest with themselves about their own level of talent, they wouldn’t take themselves so seriously. They’re more like Seth McFarlane than Hitchcock

@@hvitekristesdod Ugh... When I heard that they compared themselves to Hitchcock, I had to roll my eyes and laugh out loud. The best thing for any creator to do is be themselves. And if Hitchcock or Tolkien were legit influences on them, then it would be nice to see them honoring either guy through their storytelling! Well... I'm not seeing it!

What manga did bro read Peroxide💀 Lets not forget the whole Hueco Mundo arc and tybw development with Ichigo and Orihime's relationship

Then you are not being truthfull cause the manga never had those interactions with ichigo and rukia

@@carlsalba ??? By “it’s still there” I mean the chemistry, not literally that the filler is there. I didn’t even specify what interactions I’m talking about but you immediately went “no it’s just filler those interactions aren’t there”. Which interactions? I don’t know, because again, *I didn’t watch the anime, I read the manga*. You are exactly proving my point. You’re annoying.

@@SMT_Bleachfan I read Bleach, but crucially, I read it above a 6th grade level. It’s funny how much a story or piece of art will change if you examine it with any kind of depth.

@@TheLordGojira ? What depth are you talking about?

No, and that's what makes it even dumber! We know the elves will call in the cavalry, and we see horsemen messengers in the background as Elrond and Guyladariel are talking over their flimsy, floppy, faux fellowship! Hahahaha! The writers really are that dumb.

Honestly, if we want to talk about negative stereotypes and racial depictions, Rings of Power is more blatant than half of the stuff in the 80s and 90s. I feel bad for the actors who've been degraded this way.

Are you ok? Orihime with ishida or ulquiorra? What series were you watching?

And ichigo and orihime had better play offs and character ship.development than anything she had with those two.why do you lie?

PLOT ARMOR! It negates all damage that the plot doesn't want and erases all negative consequences from bad choices that don't serve the angst Hollywood loves so much! It can be yours for 750 million to ONE billion dollars!

It's sad to know that this is the result of them working for 12 years in the industry, plus supposedly working on their own stories since high school. That is longer than I have been writing, and yet I have nine books to show for it and most of them are objectively better written than this show... It comes down to their hubris. they thought they could match or exceed Tolkien and do it with barely a fraction of the effort he put into his own stories. Have they ever really edited any of their own works before? Have they ever seriously taken criticism and outside opinions before? Have they ever tried to write something that was hard for them, outside of their wheelhouse? I unfortunately don't see any of the recognizable hallmarks of someone who is earnestly trying to improve their craft, as opposed to someone like JRR Tolkien! So yeah, there's nothing in this show that can save it from the bad writing that permeates the plot, the characters, and the dialogue. The visuals can only take them so far.

Hahaha! Thanks! Humor is the best way to get through this.

That comes from so much of the world getting inundated with bad storytelling for years at this point... I've been having this conversation a lot recently, we've been getting few and few great books, comics, movies, and shows for at least 5 years now. We can even trace the decline to nearly a decade ago! And when you're so used to consuming poorer stories, it gets harder and harder to realize when one is outright bad!

@@camillesharem I think you are right.

You make an excellent point. Sauron is this ultimate, nigh-unstoppable evil. What we do get of his backstory from Tolkien makes him tragic because he is essentially a fallen angel. But that would require them to really dig deep before the First Age. Sauron is very active and present throughout the Second Age, so any show set during that time would have him as a big player. I think what would have worked well would have been to have Annatar be there almost from the get-go, and make him super likable. Meanwhile have Mordor and Sauron active, and misdirect the normies who don't know any better and the fans can wait with bated breath from the inevitable betrayal. That is still enjoyable! And then you have the haunt of knowing that something awful is coming. After that, focus solely on the heroes while Sauron looms over everything as the big bad causing chaos and destruction. The show really missed out on an opportunity with season 1 to show us all the different kingdoms of men and dwarves, so we could get to know them and feel bad for them when they succumb to Annatar's temptations. But at this rate? We don't know who these people are and we won't feel bad for them getting tricked.

I heard some great commentary last night that said if this show leaned into being cheesy and had a Hercules or Xena, Warrior Princess kind of opening and vibe, that far more people would love it. I might push back on that claim a little, but really, a few good tweaks and this would be a hilarious melodramatic parody! It was also sad when gathering clips for this video. It's clear that the production and makeup crews have been having fun. The work that went into the barrow wights is impressive! And it's all lost because the lighting is terrible and cinematography is just so choppy and awful... Compare that to the love that went into crafting the LOTR sets and costumes, and how the lighting and camera work praise all that effort. The contrast is stark! And that's to say nothing of the writing, or the acting, or the direction, or the plot in general...

I actually would care if this show made any of its character sustainably likeable! Chad Elrond is an improvement, but I have no confidence he will stay that way before Girl Boss Guyladariel puts him in his place... Also, why is their armor giving off such a steampunk vibe? If you want full-plated armor to cover people up, then use the Asia Minor cataphracts as inspiration! At least they would look super cool and imposing! But as for mishearing the quote, I have to in part chalk it up to the bad dialogue and in part to me not caring. Haha!

To paraphrase an excellent comment, "This burden must be borne, even all the way to Mount Doom." Rings of Power lost over 60% of its audience during the first season. According to current analytics, it lost half of its remaining audience before episode 4 premiered. The tens of millions of views season 1, episode 1 received has been knocked down to the same numbers as popular indie shows here on TH-cam. And even with the controversies surrounding something like Murder Drones' finale, I guarantee you that Murder Drones is getting more positive buzz than Rings of Power. Now, why do I keep watching, reviewing, and analyzing? Because if I don't watch it or if I just hate it, I actually support all the bad writing that Hollywood insists is a masterpiece. It is not. And these videos, where I even review it as its own original story and provide creative feedback and writing advice, are designed to highlight that Hollywood is wrong. Furthermore, it is clear that you either didn't watch my video through or pay attention, because you would hear my praise for ROP where is succeeds and does well, and where it does adhere to Tolkien's canon. Which again, most other reviewers don't do! But Rings of Power can no longer hide behind supposed tens of millions of views. It's not getting those any more. And if that is what people want to argue, then we have to accept before the whole world that a silly show like The Amazing Digital Circus is more popular than anything any other studio is doing, including Rings of Power, and is making more money than most of Hollywood right now. And that is a public fact!

@@camillesharem Sorry mate , you wouldn't expect a serious person reading a 3000 word essay from a troll who spends his sad waking hours trying to bad mouth a show which was the SECOND most watched show on the planet this week.

@@camillesharem And if you must know ...YES , more than 11 million streams for these first 4 chapters . And that's Prime streams .....You can be sure of many millions of unnacounted views from alternative platforms (like myself)

@@Enfin158 That's less than Murder Drones' finale. That's less than Lackadaisy. That's a 1/30 of the viewership for TADC. All of which were done on a smaller budget, with better writing, and actually made their creators money. And while 11 million official views is impressive, that is an 89% reduction from the show's premiere. If you lost 89% of your audience, that is devastating. A stand-up comedian who loses 89% of their audience just bombed. If 89% of Disney park visitors left and didn't come back, the company would start flirting with bankruptcy. If Game of Thrones had lost 89% of its paying audience on HBO from season 1 to season 2, the show would not have made it to the Red Wedding. 11 million is an impressive number all by itself. When put into context, Amazon would never celebrate that. Especially after all their bragging from season 1. This then begs the question: Why did 89% of the paying audience abandon the series?

@@Enfin158 Hahaha! I love how you're trying to insult me when I haven't once insulted people who enjoy this show and have always been eager to engage in conversations with them. Both online and in person. If you really want to know, I spend my many happy and productive hours going on hikes, currently writing the rough draft for my sixth book in the Legend of the Ten Lords, playing with my cats, talking writing with my writing groups, playing D&D, getting my butt kicked in Elden Ring, and I'm getting ready to publish my first murder-mystery! It's going to be AWESOME! Hope you're enjoying life as much as I am.

Hahahaha! I love that! You're spot-on.

Romance? But they were never set as a romance, it doesnt even feel like one, like you said it feels like a best friends chemistry or family

​@@camillesharemnot really cause ichigo and rukia do not feel like a couple because there were never hints of love and romantic.chemistry between them.

@@carlsalba I don’t know what your definition of romance is, but to me, connecting on a deep emotional level, sharing mutual understanding of each other at their core, and developing a supportive partnership based on each other’s wants and needs are the best foundations of a truly legendary romance. Your romantic partner SHOULD feel like your best friend, but even more so. Ichigo doesn’t have that with Orihime. He notices things about her, and she notices things about him but they never quite connect, and that’s honestly so sad. Ichigo and Orihime’s romantic arcs are both weirdly one-sided since they’re never in a position where they share their feelings in a reciprocal way, which is an important facet of depicting mutual love. Like I understand Orihime loves Ichigo, and I can see times where Ichigo notices Orihime or thinks she’s kind of cute, but their relationship isn’t deep or profound on a spiritual self-actualized level And I get it, in the end, male shounen writers just kind of suck at romance. They don’t know how to do it and tends to just default to separating the protag and love interest specifically so they don’t have to actually write it. But the ending consequence is that the protagonist ends up with deep heart rending relationships with their best friends, mentors, rivals, and villains, and at best a passable fairly shallow relationship with their main love interest, even though the love interest should arguably have one of if not the most profound relationship with the protagonist. That’s why they’re in love

@@Tenshi6Tantou6Rei Very compelling

Because Amazon's HR department demanded it. I would love to see a story with diverse elves where those elves have their own unique cultures and languages. That would be super cool! The problem is that these people are shoehorning in faux diversity, falling for the same stereotypical tropes as before, and neither honoring Tolkien nor people of color.

@@camillesharem It sucks. Aye.

Well, if you google Mike Myers in Love Guru and do a side by side comparison between him and Tom Bombadil, the likeness is enough to make me giggle every time I see him, so that at least makes it a little fun, sadly for all the wrong reasons🙂 Also, I can't NOT see the Love Guru when I see him, so he's pretty much ruined forever😂

@@troillmainn yeah mike myers would of been great as bombadil

@@johnshepard8556 Mike Meyers as Tom Bombadil almost sounds inspired. Hahaha!

@@camillesharem if they were allowed to of used the character 20 plus years ago for jacksons films i am sure he would of been in the running to play him and it woukd of been at the height of his austin powers fame

@@johnshepard8556 If nothing else, I'm pretty sure he'd at least be very merry and give us a decent laugh or two. Listening to this Tom and his weird accent only makes me long for the next horrible scene😂

It's definitely made me appreciate the books and Jackson's trilogy way more! Also, the existence of Rings of Power in many ways helps to explain why indie projects like Murder Drones and The Amazing Digital Circus have such a large adult fanbase.

There's talk about such a series. From the sound of it, the Hunt for Gollum movies are supposed to be an introduction to younger Aragorn so they can test the waters if the public will want to watch his story. Personally, I'd rather have his show than a movie focused on Gollum's wandering and Gandalf's hunt for him.

@@camillesharem I heard about that. I’m surprised they haven’t done a sequel trilogy. Lord of the Rings: The Dark Awakens. Lord of the Rings: The Last Elf Lord of the Rings: Rise of Men

@@johnwells5414 Hahahaha! Oh, I bet Warner Bros has thought about it! Thankfully, or not depending on your perspective, they've been too busy ruining DC Comic movies to get that far ahead in bleeding Tolkien's imagination dry!

@@camillesharem They are just reaching with the DC world lol! Superman looks more like a reaction to Snyder’s version, they’re doing another Batman movie separate from ‘The Batman’ so they can have a main universe Batman that will probably be another older, seasoned crime fighter, who’s now “self aware”….

@@johnwells5414 Like you said, they're just reaching... Honestly, unless they do anything more with Robert Pattinson, they need to give the DC comic movies a rest and figure out what their long-term plans should be. They don't need to worry about the MCU because that is unraveling before our eyes!

Thank you for correcting me and my assumptions! I followed that quote back into the Two Towers. Yes, Morgoth's return prompted a greater separation and Sauron's destruction of the Entwive's gardens drove them further out of the Brown Lands. So 'Old Man Ironwood' could very well be a leftover of those times. But that's the kind of thing that had the writers really made their version of Tom Bombadil dive into that, some cool connections to the Ents and highlighting Sauron's evil would have made those scenes carry real weight and punch, both narratively and lore-wise. I let my mind run wild with the details relayed by Sam about one of his neighbors seeing a tree get up and walk just at the borders of the Shire, and the Old Forest very obviously having a connection to the old Ent gardens. It would be nice to think that some Entwives might have made their way in the direction of the Shire, but that is a mystery likely known only to Tolkien himself.

Nope the darkness refrerred to is the rise of Sauron as new dark lord, who destroyed most probably the gardens of the entwives to stop the last alliance of elves and men in a place later called the brown lands. The entwives dissapeared at the end of the second age.

​@@christianefiorito3204 The phrase is: "Then when the Darkness came in the North". The Darkness is Morgoth. cf: "the people of the Three Houses of the Elf-friends who came west into Beleriand in the First Age, and aided the Eldar in the War of the Great Jewels against the Dark Power of the North." ...and "The Orcs were first bred by the Dark Power of the North in the Elder Days." App. F When the Darkness came in the North, i.e. Morgoth, the Ent-wives crossed the Great River, i.e. the Anduin, thus moving further away from the Darkness, into what would later become the Brown Lands. This is a First Age narrative. The Second Age narrative starts in the following sentences.

Hahaha! Thanks! This is why I go through this torment! The great comments and also because someone needs to stand up for better storytelling. Simply hating or mocking the show actually gives the lazy and sometimes insidiously bad writing more power, because it is not confronted with better writing and insights. Bad storytelling has become so prevalent in recent years that we risk it becoming normalized and pure genius from authors like Tolkien getting forgotten or ridiculed. And so, I will bear this burden and throw it into the Fires of Mount Doom! Even if it takes five seasons worth of adventuring.

@@camillesharem Five seasons...ouch!! Glad you're up for it and that you enjoyed my little story comment. I'll watch as long as you make em'.

@@ART1984able That was a very enjoyable read! It put a much-needed smile on my face. :)

Ouch! And that's saying something when Tolkien's grim-dark plot line is more enjoyable!

I wouldn' t go as far as that. The children of Hurin are also pretty damn depressing and Turin Turambar is a it of a dick. But at least it is written well and not totally dumb and contradictory

@@christianefiorito3204 Thank you! Turin Turambar is an absolute dick and totally brought on most of his own grief and suffering. When people praise him as a hero on par with Beren, I have to roll my eyes. It is an intense story though, and if properly adapted would certainly be the 'Game of Thrones' that Jeff Bezos and pals wanted out of acquiring rights to Middle Earth. Maybe they should have dropped more cash to acquire parts of the Silmarillion... Hahaha, no thanks!

I enjoyed that book.

@@ivankadump2539 One of these days, I'll have to do a mini series of grim dark analyses. The Children of Hurin is on that list!

Hahaha! I will take my V returns theories all the way to the bank! I don't know if they'll give me any money for it though... The ending was spectacular on a lot of fronts. And where it fell short, it wasn't derailing. Liam did a good job with what he had and I am very proud of him and Glitch. And there was a ton for everyone to enjoy. :) It's been great having you along for the ride as well! And now it's on to writing up that massive retrospective! This is going to take a while... But Murder Drones is worth it!

If you didn't like it, that's fine. But I never realistically expected to get anything more Absolute Solver, its origins, or its motivations. That's antithetical to a Lovecraftian horror story. People fear what they don't understand, and we are never meant to understand the eldritch gods and their natures. Would I have loved to get more? Sure! And it should have been longer. And as far as we can tell with Cyn, the first she wanted was to not be alone. That was what invited Absolute Solver in. It then twisted and warped her personality and motivations as it inhabited her, taking those desires to not be alone and not wanting to be disposed of, transforming them into the desire to kill others and perversely keep around the people closest to her thanks to Absolute Solver's own desire to consume everything. Like any good Lovecraftian story the lore is in the observation. Now, I can totally understand where people feel that the rest of the cast got done dirty because they were not given much time at all or a real chance to shine and culminate their character arcs. And those feelings are absolutely justified.

@@camillesharem a characters/entitys backstory is what makes it a good character or antagonist. There are either bad antagonists that just want to kill like esdeath from akame ga kill, or ones with such great motives conveyed by their backstory like eren yeager that would spark a national moral debate. It seems like we need to know more about the origin of the AS and not just have it hanging there. The ending feels like AOTs season 1 ending that goes like "yea everything is fine for now at least". Yet they still didnt knkw anything about the titans

@@onabs7107 Normally, yes. What makes a good villain is its character, encompassing its personality, history, motivations, relationships, etc. But because this is a Lovecraftian horror, those rules can be thrown out the window. Liam played fast and loose with those parameters by giving Absolute Solver an amalgamated personality that developed with the people it consumed, which in turn made loads of people either like Cyn or really want that runt to get squashed. He did what Lovecraft would never have done and made an eldritch entity personable. Now then, going that far creates the expectations that we would get more of her character. But because Liam was always developing this story as a Lovecraftian tale, the monster CANNOT be explained. That removes its mystique which is essential to the fear it induces in the cast and audience. So the debate that does open up is was Liam wrong to make Absolute Solver an entity that could have feelings and personality or was it the right move. For a good comparison, you can check Murder Drones against another cosmic horror: The Thing.

@@camillesharem the fact that the main protagonist and some other characters could use that demonic power to their advantage reduces its horror factor to near zero. It feels like in the realm of robots, stuff like that must have an explanation that isnt supernatural such as a failed human experiment that went rogue or smth. All we can do is speculate. That would make for a good plot twist, seeing what task were the humans interested in solving. Could it be fighting some ancient form of extraterrestial entity?

I find it very interesting to see people choose the different ending interpretations I've posed. I think it says something about the creative spark in each of us, about how we might tell the same story. Alas for poor Uzi! Haha! I'm glad that you gave Murder Drones a try. It was a very interesting story and definitely something made for younger audiences. However, it is great to see that other creators are actively trying to make stories and shows for a more younger, but still mature audience. Murder Drones was definitely an exercise in what can be done when blending teenage humor and horror! And I think it puled it off a lot better than most other stories.

Sure thing! It's a character concept that I feel really needs to be explained further in a future video. It's also going to be one that earns me tons of flack from anime fans! Hahaha...

@@camillesharem hmmm you know, I wonder if there is a cultural difference that makes it such a common or beloved character archetype in Japan.

@@benruniko From my limited understanding, it is a sign that someone has real strength of character and conviction to not be swayed. Loyalty is heavily prized in Japanese culture. Loyalty to yourself when you're expected to bend and bow to society is especially big! BUT it does require you to have admirable qualities and values for that unchangeable personality to really be revered. Which is why the unchanging protagonist must constantly fight bad guys who challenge their world view and values. For N, this works here in Murder Drones because what is being challenged is his innate goodness, and we see that even all that torture and all those awful memories being unlocked doesn't break him. Absolute Solver has muddled his mind, but it never understood that it couldn't break who he really is. Though, to be fair, Uzi does help out a lot with that.