at 33:40 when he says "think he dies right?" you know the ASol will die because of the e mark change on top of the enemy to more black and sliced. For those who don't know.
I don't play Yone on principle. In fact, I usually punish people for blinding Yone by busting out the Cassiopeia pick. Since they are locked facing my direction during the Q3 dash, they end up stunned by my ult and I melt their health and LP. One risky play I did was being low health under my own tower to bait out their ult. I flashed and stunned them and took the kill. Was it worth the flash? probably not. But it's about sending a message (and having more gold to buy a Shok Seal(TM) ).
You said that you generally want to keep the wave in the middle with melee champs. What are the benefits of that for melees? I can see how you wouldnt want to just shove if you arent a roaming champ because you cant harass under tower, but why is it better to keep the wave mid instead of freezing it? I thought maybe it would be good to force less mobile mages higher up and give yourself more room to chase? (I’m mostly wondering this from an Irelia perspective) Love the content btw. Amazing how instructive you are when playing challenger games. I think you’re excellent at translating gameplay into specifically helpful examples. I think thats a rare skill!
I believe he said in a few videos that you prefer to keep the wave mid instead of freezing because when you freeze you take the risk of the other mid laner roaming and killing your team while you're freezing, asol is a good roamer so by putting the wave in the middle you can threaten tower plates more and see asol moving. Also another reason is that your jungle might need the mid prio. In this game, you can see sylas playing aggro in river and getting invaded alot, if shok freezed he would have a harder time moving to his jungle while making asol have an easier time moving himself as he's up in lane
@@boneless70 Okay that makes sense, I should have reviewed the example, but I also watched a few other laning videos to help figure it out and that definitely sounds right. Appreciate the help!
Boneless already gave you a great explanation but one thing I'd add is you can kinda adapt depending on the game. Like if your jungler is in base for example and your bot lane is dead, you can just hard freeze because there's no where for your lane to roam to. So if you're super aware sometimes you can get a little greedier
Well played! Very good 1v9 game with a lot of very relatable macro problems... I really enjoyed this one. You touched on it a bit in this video and I'm sure you will more in further videos, but how would you have approached the midgame if you were playing a champion with a weaker sidelane and worse sidelane matchup, particularly some sort of control mage? Would you still sidelane and just accept that you often can't push to turret/look for solo kills so you will get quite a bit less gold and xp, or would you do something completely different?
I'd probably just be pushing sidelane as far as I can safely (which may not be very far) and then just coming to group with my team or farm some camps if my champ is able to
I think i learn more in this series cause when you play in chall games those are less relatable cause in lower mmr the players play much more like this than in your chall games, and here we see more clearly why you're better than all the lowies instead of lesser obvious mistakes in higher elo, also would you do a tierlist for champs for reaching challenger 1st time that would be very interesting :D maybe ahri would be #1 ? jaja so curious
Hey Shok, really love your content. I've noticed that you upload only games that you win. Can you upload a loss sometime? Explain what could have been done better and overall show the ups and downs in a game that has been lost.
I PERMA-BAN Yone in the 100% of the games, Ranked, Unranked, Arena, Aram, URF, Swarm, TFT, in the job, sleeping, walking, waching TV, etc. I hate Him, is too strong and Riot dont nerf him
Bro, zyra mid shits on yone. Hell, zyra just roaming mid from support will shit on yone 🤣 obviously there's some skill gap to be had there but anyone with strong cc will crap on his face.
Kogging aside i am really loving this series even if ive moved away from midlane completely for a more spitflinging fueled role, really hoping to see maw continueing forwar...maw.mAAAAH AHH HELP KOGMAW IS IN MY HOUSE HELP HES GOT A BIOARCANE BARAGE HELP HEL EP ,,, soon all will be revealed.
Thank you for your content, really great and useful commentary
at 33:40 when he says "think he dies right?" you know the ASol will die because of the e mark change on top of the enemy to more black and sliced. For those who don't know.
I never knew that, that's amazing
@@yozea6916 its the same as Zed, when his ult will kill, there is a spinning shuriken on top of the enemy
@@Demon8593 Holy shit I knew about Zed of course but this knowledge for Yone is something I've never heard. Thanks.
33:38 you can be sure he dies there as the red mark over the Sol's head turned black ;)
and it works the same with Zed's mark
Looking to add Yone to my champ pool as my AD pick, this was super helpful!
Or jayce
Shok im commenting only because im shocked u would do such an unethical thing as recommend playing the windshitters. Im in Shok
I will reform sorry brother
i've been playing this game for only 2 months, almost gold thanks to your videos, thank you
That's insane improvement bro I can't imagine how difficult it is to start league 14 years in. Keep it up :D
@@ShokLeague i guess been playing dota for a life time and switching to league with good videos like yours can help, thanks
Loving the frequent uploads!
ty for the melee matchup
Thank you @Shok for always blessing us with the high quality content!
Seems like bork IE or Zeal IE are the best atm
I would love to see some Leblanc in this series! When is it a good pick and how to snowball games
I don't play Yone on principle. In fact, I usually punish people for blinding Yone by busting out the Cassiopeia pick. Since they are locked facing my direction during the Q3 dash, they end up stunned by my ult and I melt their health and LP. One risky play I did was being low health under my own tower to bait out their ult. I flashed and stunned them and took the kill. Was it worth the flash? probably not. But it's about sending a message (and having more gold to buy a Shok Seal(TM) ).
love this series
You said that you generally want to keep the wave in the middle with melee champs. What are the benefits of that for melees?
I can see how you wouldnt want to just shove if you arent a roaming champ because you cant harass under tower, but why is it better to keep the wave mid instead of freezing it?
I thought maybe it would be good to force less mobile mages higher up and give yourself more room to chase? (I’m mostly wondering this from an Irelia perspective)
Love the content btw. Amazing how instructive you are when playing challenger games. I think you’re excellent at translating gameplay into specifically helpful examples. I think thats a rare skill!
I believe he said in a few videos that you prefer to keep the wave mid instead of freezing because when you freeze you take the risk of the other mid laner roaming and killing your team while you're freezing, asol is a good roamer so by putting the wave in the middle you can threaten tower plates more and see asol moving. Also another reason is that your jungle might need the mid prio. In this game, you can see sylas playing aggro in river and getting invaded alot, if shok freezed he would have a harder time moving to his jungle while making asol have an easier time moving himself as he's up in lane
@@boneless70 Okay that makes sense, I should have reviewed the example, but I also watched a few other laning videos to help figure it out and that definitely sounds right. Appreciate the help!
Boneless already gave you a great explanation but one thing I'd add is you can kinda adapt depending on the game. Like if your jungler is in base for example and your bot lane is dead, you can just hard freeze because there's no where for your lane to roam to. So if you're super aware sometimes you can get a little greedier
Well played! Very good 1v9 game with a lot of very relatable macro problems... I really enjoyed this one. You touched on it a bit in this video and I'm sure you will more in further videos, but how would you have approached the midgame if you were playing a champion with a weaker sidelane and worse sidelane matchup, particularly some sort of control mage? Would you still sidelane and just accept that you often can't push to turret/look for solo kills so you will get quite a bit less gold and xp, or would you do something completely different?
I'd probably just be pushing sidelane as far as I can safely (which may not be very far) and then just coming to group with my team or farm some camps if my champ is able to
Just a reminder to not burn out and to take a break if needed!!!!!!
Love the vid 🎉🎉🎉
Dw mate I'll be all good
The swords above the enemy champs get slashed through when snapping back in yone’s e. Same idea as zed ult with the marker
Great commentary!
Thank you bro for your content😊
I think i learn more in this series cause when you play in chall games those are less relatable cause in lower mmr the players play much more like this than in your chall games, and here we see more clearly why you're better than all the lowies instead of lesser obvious mistakes in higher elo, also would you do a tierlist for champs for reaching challenger 1st time that would be very interesting :D maybe ahri would be #1 ? jaja so curious
Hmm a tierlist for reaching chall for the first time would be interesting, Ahri would definitely be high on the list
see title, sudden panic of people taking Yone in my games after this video, before remembering that I ban Yone every game
Based
Crazy i wanted to learn yone or look him up after I watched a different vid about yone 🗣️😭
Btw if u are in your e and the mark on the enemy head has a sash on it that means if u e2 it will kill him
Hey Shok, really love your content. I've noticed that you upload only games that you win. Can you upload a loss sometime? Explain what could have been done better and overall show the ups and downs in a game that has been lost.
There is a loss coming!
In 30nsecs there will be a TK.... 25 SECONDS LATER?!
my toxic trait is that every time i see Shok play a different champ I want to go and play that champ in my ranked games
RESPECT
That Gragas though........
Man I hate Yone, but very good vid I love this serie!
What keystone do you think Yone will run when lethal gets removed?
Fleet or conq depending on the matchup
PTA 99% or maybe fleet in really hard matchups
but its sht as hell, that sometimes you get so bad team that even very high challenger could lose in plat elo ...
This is actually so disgusting to watch. Never meet your heroes or something. What next? Actual wintrading? You have no dignity left to lose anyways
hahahh that's my bad
LETS GOOOO
Akshan game please :)?
Try to 1v9 when your jungler is 2/10 and your top 2/11
Great video. It’s a great reminder that solid macro can carry below average champ mechanics. Keep up the good work
Day 11 of asking shok to play AP. Kogmaw mid (how a challenger plays off meta picks)
I PERMA-BAN Yone in the 100% of the games, Ranked, Unranked, Arena, Aram, URF, Swarm, TFT, in the job, sleeping, walking, waching TV, etc. I hate Him, is too strong and Riot dont nerf him
Lmfaooo I respect that
Jayce video please!!!!
Bro, zyra mid shits on yone. Hell, zyra just roaming mid from support will shit on yone 🤣 obviously there's some skill gap to be had there but anyone with strong cc will crap on his face.
Poor enemy team, definitely deserved the win before you ruined it.
40:00 i only get games like this. dropped from p2 to g4, always bad teamates.
Cope pisslow
Kogging aside i am really loving this series even if ive moved away from midlane completely for a more spitflinging fueled role, really hoping to see maw continueing forwar...maw.mAAAAH AHH HELP KOGMAW IS IN MY HOUSE HELP HES GOT A BIOARCANE BARAGE HELP HEL EP ,,, soon all will be revealed.