I mean, the instant someone calls for a surrender pre five minutes the only thing you should do is immediately fullmute and report them and move on with the game. They are more interested in typing than winning, so all you can do is try not to get distracted.
I don't think Lux was DCing :D I think he was just typing and arguing in chat :D Also even though you lost it was very insightful on how you were focusing on the game and what you were doing
this are the type of video i love to see and be analized. Loved the replays, were subtle and very informative. Overall imo your best unranked to master video🙌🙌
Thanks for the upload! Definitely a bit of an unfortunate game insofar that your lane opponent seemed to definitely have some major issues and the enemy samira clearly being someone smurfing with a friend based on op gg. I often feel very lost in exactly this kind of game as a midlaner for reasons showcased well in this video. They won't always all be there but the more items the more I struggle: - A matchup where it is hard to really push 1v1 so you can't realistically exect to get a good lead - Enemy support starts roaming mid which makes it even harder to get push a ahead - Really hard or impossible to roam due to the way sidelane matchups are going and where the jungler is - Enemy team starts stacking dragons early which puts a hard timer on the game - Really tough to win through teamfights due to super strong enemy champions and no one else on the team being a threat - If you do manage to hold and stabilize you are completely dependent on your teammates not getting randomly caught or running it down, even better if it happens right before lategame objectives It's basically like you say, you just aren't supposed to win these games from a luck distribution perspective, it's a sort of therapy to see the same happening even to you :)
Thanks for uploading a loss. This game looks very familiar and a good example of how sometimes you're unlucky and have to play Faker perfect to win the game
I bet Riot wanted him to carry a very low winrate premade in order for him to win. Everytime I have one of these games I checked and it is ALWAYS the case. Riot's matchmaking is something else...
@@Chimidecriolla3421 That is just wrong to think, matchmaking systems don't work like that. All that happened was that the enemy team had a premade botlane with a smurf and no one else on his team stepped up, which happens a lot in emerald sadly.
Hey thanks for listening on my last comment on your previous vid, it truly means a lot to see your perspective of a loss. It was really helpful to see you sidelaning in the midgame and your thoughts on pushing/standing still and waiting. I have one question though: What do you do when you just don't have a good side laning options and the side laner that goes to this lane is generally stronger than you?
If you can't really contest sidelane then you probably just want to go to the sidelane to pickup waves when they are going to crash under your tower and then push out 1 wave or so. Other than that you can just spend your time hiding in fog behind mid looking to make a pick or counter an engage
Hey shok, good video as usual. I have found myself in your shoes regarding upgrading an item and it being suboptimal cause of a surprise mr buy. My fix for that was be to just insta sell the Morello as soon as i saw it for cryptbloom, i feel that even tho it feels so bad its that type of play that has to be done you know? Like when you say your objective is to not die in a lane, it sucks, it limits your play, but you just have to so it by playing more passive
Hey shok, i had a couple questions about early vs late game runes as you had discussed. On a champ like ori i feel like there are some team comps where phase rush has insane value (e.g. 3 melees or a v strong ganking jg) but u might have a very winning lane matchup with comet so not sure what you think is better. As a second q not sure when you think first strike is better than aery/comet + scorch on viktor given FS was so buffed but viktor can also hard bully champs like ahri/azir/veigar with laning runes. Would you just go FS every game now that its so op?
For the first question yeah that's a very hard thing to judge, I'd probably go for the phase rush but you kinda just have to judge how worth its gonna be. I think you should default to FS now on Viktor but in contested range matchups e.g. Syndra, Ori you probably have to take comet/aery still
Idk if shok is saying it’s DC for the video, but if he actually thinks that, then boy it must be nice to have people not constantly giving up and trolling/inting in his games 😅😅
Bro please upload the part of the stream where you talked about real life and league - Taylor Swift, daily walks and the convos with your people. It was so hilarious, please make a short out of it!
@@ShokLeague You could make it a second channel even if you wnated to keep this channel specific to this type of content, since it seems to be more RL stuff... perhaps call it Culture Shok? :p
Fase rush more safe, it's good against assassins or any champ that need to melee range you (pantheon, khazix, reksai, olaf). Phase rush allow you to kite while dealing damage. Comet is good for pocking and orianna is the best on that but if your opponent have a lot of sustain it's not that effective. Aery it's better if you can shield, heal or buff while still pocking but with less damage
3 points W + comet is insane vs any ranged champs. Phase rush is good against melees or ganking JGs/supports. Aery imo just isn't that good atm, but you'd probably want to take it into melees with low sustain e.g. Fizz, Qiyana
What would you say the best role to have impact and carry is, I started jg ling about a year ago because of the high iimpact, but since the nerfs to jg someone like a fed top or midlaner that 1 v 5 s our team seems more impactful.
jungle was, is and will be the strongest role by far. even after the jungle nerfs last year it was still the strongest role and after the 14.10 jungle buffs it's not even close anymore. the role is too unique to not be ruined by autofills but it's too unpopular to not suffer from autofills if it's not turbo op broken.
There's this common sentiment that low elo guarantees you get to lategame, and having stayed there for a very long time, two out of every three games the enemy toplaner got to our inhibitor turret by 15 minutes. If that's not accelerating games, I don't know what is.
I am glad people think Orianna doesn't do damage. That means they wont see the gray screen coming after I base and buy a Shok Seal(TM). I in particular demolish people who blind Hwei and Ahri.
had a faker like game with orianna 11/5/12 did 49k demage and lost because bot lane was 10/26 to end the game combined btw, its just so hard for me to climb when i'm put into many lobbies who don't want to win at all its so sad man, even though i want to improve i can make the difference in fights, i can't play 4v5 every game when one person on my team is handicapped and it seems like noone on the other team is handicapped and just does the right thing. Anyways i love the videos u are making and you helped me improve my game for sure!
that mute on the lee at the start while continuing talking and not giving a damn is nuts
Time stamp?
@@Trickster_AJ 1:01
LMFAO im too jaded
I mute everyone by default
I mean, the instant someone calls for a surrender pre five minutes the only thing you should do is immediately fullmute and report them and move on with the game. They are more interested in typing than winning, so all you can do is try not to get distracted.
I don't think Lux was DCing :D I think he was just typing and arguing in chat :D
Also even though you lost it was very insightful on how you were focusing on the game and what you were doing
Yeah, and it’s great to see a TH-camr uploading games where they lost
this are the type of video i love to see and be analized. Loved the replays, were subtle and very informative. Overall imo your best unranked to master video🙌🙌
Thanks for the upload! Definitely a bit of an unfortunate game insofar that your lane opponent seemed to definitely have some major issues and the enemy samira clearly being someone smurfing with a friend based on op gg. I often feel very lost in exactly this kind of game as a midlaner for reasons showcased well in this video. They won't always all be there but the more items the more I struggle:
- A matchup where it is hard to really push 1v1 so you can't realistically exect to get a good lead
- Enemy support starts roaming mid which makes it even harder to get push a ahead
- Really hard or impossible to roam due to the way sidelane matchups are going and where the jungler is
- Enemy team starts stacking dragons early which puts a hard timer on the game
- Really tough to win through teamfights due to super strong enemy champions and no one else on the team being a threat
- If you do manage to hold and stabilize you are completely dependent on your teammates not getting randomly caught or running it down, even better if it happens right before lategame objectives
It's basically like you say, you just aren't supposed to win these games from a luck distribution perspective, it's a sort of therapy to see the same happening even to you :)
Thanks for uploading a loss. This game looks very familiar and a good example of how sometimes you're unlucky and have to play Faker perfect to win the game
I bet Riot wanted him to carry a very low winrate premade in order for him to win. Everytime I have one of these games I checked and it is ALWAYS the case. Riot's matchmaking is something else...
@@Chimidecriolla3421 Definitely confirmation bias ngl. You're way more likely to lose games (and check) when you get put with a low winrate team
@@Chimidecriolla3421 That is just wrong to think, matchmaking systems don't work like that. All that happened was that the enemy team had a premade botlane with a smurf and no one else on his team stepped up, which happens a lot in emerald sadly.
@@Chimidecriolla3421 blaming matchmaking for losing games is just a bad excuse
@@Cynsham reading without actually comprehending is a bad habit
Very normal solo Q experience. Thanks for posting what we should be doing and what mistakes are made. You make the best vids man
Well that game was a league experience, good vid mr shok, love the serie !
Hey thanks for listening on my last comment on your previous vid, it truly means a lot to see your perspective of a loss. It was really helpful to see you sidelaning in the midgame and your thoughts on pushing/standing still and waiting. I have one question though: What do you do when you just don't have a good side laning options and the side laner that goes to this lane is generally stronger than you?
If you can't really contest sidelane then you probably just want to go to the sidelane to pickup waves when they are going to crash under your tower and then push out 1 wave or so. Other than that you can just spend your time hiding in fog behind mid looking to make a pick or counter an engage
Hey shok, good video as usual.
I have found myself in your shoes regarding upgrading an item and it being suboptimal cause of a surprise mr buy.
My fix for that was be to just insta sell the Morello as soon as i saw it for cryptbloom, i feel that even tho it feels so bad its that type of play that has to be done you know?
Like when you say your objective is to not die in a lane, it sucks, it limits your play, but you just have to so it by playing more passive
Hey shok, i had a couple questions about early vs late game runes as you had discussed. On a champ like ori i feel like there are some team comps where phase rush has insane value (e.g. 3 melees or a v strong ganking jg) but u might have a very winning lane matchup with comet so not sure what you think is better. As a second q not sure when you think first strike is better than aery/comet + scorch on viktor given FS was so buffed but viktor can also hard bully champs like ahri/azir/veigar with laning runes. Would you just go FS every game now that its so op?
For the first question yeah that's a very hard thing to judge, I'd probably go for the phase rush but you kinda just have to judge how worth its gonna be. I think you should default to FS now on Viktor but in contested range matchups e.g. Syndra, Ori you probably have to take comet/aery still
This man has honor and it makes me respect him more
Great video! Love Orianna gameplay
Idk if shok is saying it’s DC for the video, but if he actually thinks that, then boy it must be nice to have people not constantly giving up and trolling/inting in his games 😅😅
Sona lich bane autoing the sejuani at 24:50 instead of the samira is Alcatraz worth criminality
Oh god I didn't even notice this
Very informative video thanks man you’re really good at explaining what you’re doing great teacher
what do u think of the new burn item on ori? i been going tear into first item new burn thing and it’s been working for me
imo luden is a little better but I think there's not much of a difference. I did tear ludens seraphs today and it felt pretty good
do you still prioritize leveling up W early into melee or is it better to level up Q ?
If they have dshield + second wind I just level W, if it's something like Fizz that doesn't take this then you can still 3 points W
Bro please upload the part of the stream where you talked about real life and league - Taylor Swift, daily walks and the convos with your people. It was so hilarious, please make a short out of it!
hahah I should clip these actually
@@ShokLeague You could make it a second channel even if you wnated to keep this channel specific to this type of content, since it seems to be more RL stuff... perhaps call it Culture Shok? :p
Hi Shok can u explain why u went for commet + W max this game? And when to take aery or phase rush? Love the content!
Fase rush more safe, it's good against assassins or any champ that need to melee range you (pantheon, khazix, reksai, olaf). Phase rush allow you to kite while dealing damage. Comet is good for pocking and orianna is the best on that but if your opponent have a lot of sustain it's not that effective. Aery it's better if you can shield, heal or buff while still pocking but with less damage
You go w max because the slow make you hit the comet and deal a lot of damage
3 points W + comet is insane vs any ranged champs. Phase rush is good against melees or ganking JGs/supports. Aery imo just isn't that good atm, but you'd probably want to take it into melees with low sustain e.g. Fizz, Qiyana
what do you think about new boots with fast recall and whwn would be an ideal time to buy them?
Haven't really seen anyone but supports but these so I don't think they are that good for mid
I paused your video at 3:03 - by that time in my last Ori into lux game, I saw enemy jg and support in separate ganks :(
I'm sorry to hear that
Played a ton of syndra in the past, but want to add oriana to my champ pool as well. Perfect timing!
As frustrating as they can be, I find losses to often be the games where I find the most things to improve on
like the gameplay, note to editor though, you dont need to zoom in on teleport summoner, we as league players all know where the summoners are lol
What would you say the best role to have impact and carry is, I started jg ling about a year ago because of the high iimpact, but since the nerfs to jg someone like a fed top or midlaner that 1 v 5 s our team seems more impactful.
jungle was, is and will be the strongest role by far. even after the jungle nerfs last year it was still the strongest role and after the 14.10 jungle buffs it's not even close anymore.
the role is too unique to not be ruined by autofills but it's too unpopular to not suffer from autofills if it's not turbo op broken.
imo role really isn't that important, you can easily have impact and carry as any role
@@ShokLeague I see, thank you
Hello shokky, I wanna learn how to play some good control mages that can also have carry potential, any tips?
Hwei Viktor Syndra Ori all good choices!
There's this common sentiment that low elo guarantees you get to lategame, and having stayed there for a very long time, two out of every three games the enemy toplaner got to our inhibitor turret by 15 minutes. If that's not accelerating games, I don't know what is.
You reckon if you played a hypercarry like Vladimir, you could have carried your team ?
Maybe, or maybe the game would have been over before I even got to scale, hard to say
These vids are amazing!
I would love to see this matchup in higher elo, or Ori vs Hwei
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I am glad people think Orianna doesn't do damage. That means they wont see the gray screen coming after I base and buy a Shok Seal(TM). I in particular demolish people who blind Hwei and Ahri.
Ori feels like a sup and a control mage having a baby super fun to play
Even if nobody mentions this, Samira ios disgustingly broken she press that circle that erases everyone around her and gg 😮💨
Atleast you tried @shok . Why is Samira always 40/0 in enemy team and my Samira is 0/70 ? 😂 same as Viego. It is strange 🤨
Great timing since I just got blasted by a lux. So disgusting how fast she clears wave
Day 15 of asking shok to play AP KOGMAW mid (how a challenger mid plays off meta picks)
just let him play what he wants :)
i just can't stand all these people begging for people to play a specific champ. dude just let them breathe.
Also what’s the point of playing 1 off meta game
Nice, I think this is a clear example of low elo league experience.
dang lost because we didnt kill the dc LUX
akali when
Leggooooo shokky
lux with ignite 💀
HARAM
had a faker like game with orianna 11/5/12 did 49k demage and lost because bot lane was 10/26 to end the game combined btw, its just so hard for me to climb when i'm put into many lobbies who don't want to win at all its so sad man, even though i want to improve i can make the difference in fights, i can't play 4v5 every game when one person on my team is handicapped and it seems like noone on the other team is handicapped and just does the right thing. Anyways i love the videos u are making and you helped me improve my game for sure!
Lesgooo!!
The irelias name is killing me 🤣
10 hours of AP Kog'maw (victorious model) dancing to insane music while in the bathroom of a club
🎉
Plz play black fire torch viktor
Games like these made me quit League tbh , it's always few monkeys in team and you're the nanny trying to take care of them as control mage.
Adc balanced as usual
what are u talking about , adc is one of the shittiest roles to play
if you wanna call samira an "adc" go ahead. but try that on cait or kogmaw