FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW WHO APDO/DOPA IS: He is the #1 Solo Queue player in league. He holds the best records in solo queue that no one until this day has beaten. He was rank #1 on both China and Korea at the same time and maintained his rank until the end of the season in both servers. He is also the record holder to hit #1 rank in less than a month on China server. He also has the longest perfect winstreak on Korean server 45 wins, 0 losses with a perfect 100% winrate
To have that record you need to have great mechanics and tons of luck. Mechanics alone is nothing if you have stupid teammates inting resulting to a loss every damnn game.
@@a.syching678 His mechanics are actually not that good compared to other pro players. His mechanics are weak compared to Faker. He wins games purely through game knowledge, lane control, playing safe and calculating steps ahead of his opponent
@@blackie6050 lol. You mean his playstyle is lame and boring. He plays safe to avoid mistakes and abuses his opponent's mistakes. Also, what's wrong with winning with only game knowledge? If you're good, you're good. If you suck, you simply suck. Also, other pro players can't even hit challenger in korean server whilst dopa achieved it with 100% winrate
@@jackFatal well, making a shitton of money from elo boosting people and streaming. sure he doesn't care. But yeah, Apdo would have been the pro antichrist to Faker. More than likely would have stayed with Team Dark for like a season or 2 before moving to a better team.
@@nawafalmatruk297 Madara is stronger tho (i warched naruto like 3y ago xd i dont remember whole series, but i think madara was way way stronger than 3-4 hokages togrther)
Sloppy play? Is there such thing in LOL? Is the most simple game where If You have a decent champ, decent farming and skill You win your Lane, the problem is te-am cooperation, teamfight plays and overall obiective achievement, vision and stuff.
3:55 was not a hickup by faker at all. it is a minion deny for an auto on him that will not matter due to auto healing - it was actually good positioning by him as TF is unable to move past him at that stage.
a mechanics god vs. a technical god. this is the fan favorite "what if gogeta vs. vegito" the 2 top tier players in the world going against each other is like.
3:48 Faker didn't take that auto for no reason , he tried to last hit that melee minion but he died before he could reach it and his auto was canceled , he tried to back off as fast as he can but he couldn't avoid that auto
I believe these pro players have natural talent , Yes you can analyse practice practice & practice but you can't be good as Faker , or Faker be good as upcoming pro player because every situation is new specially team fights Tons of stuff going on in there doesnt matter how much you analyzed and practice it in team fights you have to make decisions in a matter of second in totally different situation in which you practice , if one is made for that he will do it the way he feels is right Guess what imp made it to diamond in 2 months while I m playing from 5 years and struggle in silver elo If you practice as much as Messi did you can't be Messi
Faker has said himself that he plays by feel. DOPA is very scientific about it. They have very different playstyles, DOPA studies the game in a different way but they both study. Still I would have to agree with you.
That cliffhanger :8 but great video thanks a lot even tho you know most of these infos hearing them over and over again and with such great coments realy helps memorizing them.
He always wears the same clothes, I assume he has many of the same pieces of clothing that look the exact same and just changes clothes every day if you know what I mean
Seriously, what the hell! This is a step beyond clickbait. UN-subbed. Won't dislike cause the video was quality, but there is no way I am liking either.
@@omerfridman6851 they are giving you quality and instructive videos, they are not a big channel and they need to get some revenue, the level of pettiness of you two is sad. because a like costs you a lot
@@elvielvi4722 He did went pro, but riot banned him from tournaments because he kept breaking the rules and boosting. He made a clan and quickly went up the ladder and made it far with it
3:48 im not sure if that was a fakers mistake. He denied a caster with that agro posture by tanking auto on full hp (let the regen be a stat). Not saying faker doesn't make mistakes but maybe it was planned?
Imagine aliens come to the earth and want to challenge us otherwise they destroy our planet. They challenge us with lol. They r smart and learn fast as light. Faker and dopa duo to save the world against smart aliens..
Some mortal insects dare to comment on Dopa's mistakes? Auto fanboy mode activated!! When u become better than him u can talk!!! Nice vid tho keep it going!
Well done analyzing both micro and macro on such deep level, love to see the mindgames. Dopas TF is a fucking work of art, the second you see the matchup you're like "nah, not even Faker can win that". Absolute unit
Would Dopas ward not be because he knows Karthus will be on the top side of the map meaning he can hover botside. He might still want vision on that side of the map for anything unforeseen like a support roam or weird ass jungle pathing
Came back to this vid after a few months.. tried to applied some of dopa's wave management.. went from bronze to gold, stuck in gold tho, probably because i really havent really comprehended wave management. And did a research on him too.. dopa can carry and throw if he feels like it,lol. While faker been trolling a lot,quite actually funny. Im now more of a fan of dopa than faker.
DOPA is 100% above to faker but the problem is Faker is good in teamming while Dopa is good in solo queue.... so basically they are both GOD in their role...
Dopa is good at a few champs he mains and 1 tricks. Faker uses solo Q to play every single champion and is playing them to a level to always be competing and beating everyone else consistently. Dopa is amazing yes, but he doesn't actually compare when talking about the game as a whole, only when using a filter on the champions he plays.
The fact that they haven't unbanned DOPA seems crazy to me, why wouldn't Riot want a player as good as him and especially with as many fans as him playing? And all this based on him breaking a rule years and years ago, even in professional sports bans aren't for life. At worst they are 4 or so years, this just seems like bad business.
King Dawg Dopa admitted it himself, he said Showmaker is the best mid Laner pre 15 minutes. After 20 minutes, Faker is the beet mid Laner in the whole game. This shows faker is not the greatest during landing phase but can be stable, but can win game through mid and late game.
Dopa appears ro have advantage on macro base simply because his tendency to play a champion like tf that has all what it takes to effect the whole map. I mean split pushing power and ganks with ultimate. Put dopa on different champ, then it’s impossible to decide who has better macro. Tbh I think it’s impossible to know, however if you ask me who is better? I personally think faker is an overall better player.
Because that is all he does, he goes pro and he wont have too much time for solo queue because of tight schedules with scrims, interviews, tournaments and what not.
Dopa and Faker are completely opposite since dopa is aggressive and faker plays passive i would really like to see them 1v1 midlane in a normal match up
11:18 this 3 min ward may be because Top lose lane priority, so Top crap may lost, so focus on bot crap, then Nunu can gank bot Top is poppy, and enermy Top + Jungle are range, hard to actually cc so, hard to die, just trade crap also denie enermy jungle get double crap
so let me guess this straigh in the title is saying 3 games and you showe only 2? whydidnt you jsut say part 1 so that is clear also only the early game is not practicaly enough to say who is better cause lets say someone goe ultra ahead but still losing to someone who is a litle more behind
Sorry I understand that you need likes probably for something but gating this sick content behind it is just sad in my opinion. Your content is great but please let it be great instead of doing stuff like this.
My problem with that is that if they don't get 10k likes you will miss the 3rd game and that just sucks. This was one hell of an interesting video and I want to see the 3rd part regardless of how many likes it gets.
Some decent mid laners here... since everyone's at world's, which player should we analyse next???
Blaber
Perkz
Can you link the full replays pls? i want to watch it all
Nemesis
Showmaker
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW WHO APDO/DOPA IS:
He is the #1 Solo Queue player in league. He holds the best records in solo queue that no one until this day has beaten. He was rank #1 on both China and Korea at the same time and maintained his rank until the end of the season in both servers. He is also the record holder to hit #1 rank in less than a month on China server. He also has the longest perfect winstreak on Korean server 45 wins, 0 losses with a perfect 100% winrate
To have that record you need to have great mechanics and tons of luck. Mechanics alone is nothing if you have stupid teammates inting resulting to a loss every damnn game.
i wish he wasn't ban for pro league
@@a.syching678 His mechanics are actually not that good compared to other pro players. His mechanics are weak compared to Faker. He wins games purely through game knowledge, lane control, playing safe and calculating steps ahead of his opponent
@@blackie6050 lol. You mean his playstyle is lame and boring. He plays safe to avoid mistakes and abuses his opponent's mistakes. Also, what's wrong with winning with only game knowledge? If you're good, you're good. If you suck, you simply suck. Also, other pro players can't even hit challenger in korean server whilst dopa achieved it with 100% winrate
@@jackFatal well, making a shitton of money from elo boosting people and streaming. sure he doesn't care. But yeah, Apdo would have been the pro antichrist to Faker. More than likely would have stayed with Team Dark for like a season or 2 before moving to a better team.
This is more Chess than Lol
It is what it is - real-time strategy.
So true, that's why league is the only comparative sport I watch, some of these kids are brilliant
I mean if both players play at their best, its baaically a game of chess, who can read each other better.
It only happens in High Level Gameplay, otherwise it is neither entertainment nor competition in LOL
@@marauder1016 what you mean? Watching yasuo feed mid is hillarious to watch 😂😂😂
they r both genuies , somehow dopa looks like charismatic villian lol
LMFAO
True
Well, he likes to play Veigar 😂
@Mane365 Mrtnz calm down. You had a bad day or what?
Geometry Dashie nah he is just a kid acting like an adult. Let him be
Nobody:
Absolutly Nobody:
Faker: Levels Ability while using it
Me: :o
Not funny. That being said, go fuck yourself
matsK damn what happened? Got demoted to silver again?
I always use this trick
5 mana. That's all his profit :P
i do that all the time and im na player u ppl just never use ur brain
That level up trick will be usefull with Zoe.
Its useful with all champs
It was at this point I realized I'm not even playing the same game as these guys. And i'm not even "bad"at the game. I'm d4
d4 is pretty bad m8
@@anthony26812 stfu virgin
@@Meatcrob1 calling me that doesn't make you good xD
@@anthony26812 you're dogshit. See you in solo q
What happend here.
Faker is able to beat people while trolling as singed mid mind y'all
Dopa can have 90% wr in challenger
@@etro0972 i never compared the two, just throwin in a small factoid
Røbï and? Faker can win 3 world titles. About to be 4
@@thestoebz ummm dopa cant play pro
@@Moonking7 me 2, im just saying how they are both good at their thing and how they are great players
Bruh as Dopa said, " People think they know Wave management but I know more of it"
You need to change the title to "The Battle of The Gods" or "Madara vs. Hashirama"
Empire vs poor rebel resistance, haha
But Faker isn't worth a title of a God. DOPA said Faker nowadays is just too predictable.
Madara=dopa hashirama=faker
@@nawafalmatruk297 Madara is stronger tho (i warched naruto like 3y ago xd i dont remember whole series, but i think madara was way way stronger than 3-4 hokages togrther)
Weeb-kun UwU i know i mean he easily soloed the 5 kage in his base form but its more like cuz dopa is “evil” and faker is “nice” sort of deal
These matches are basically the Dark Link fight in the Water Temple
Yes
That's such an awesome way to put it.
So you mean pretty easy?
Without hookshot
@@edmond2801 Pretty much, DOPA said that Faker used to be hard, but now he is just predictable.
Cool to see some in-depth analyses of first few level skill mechanics. It is something I never really learned about when I first started playing LoL.
I swear I should be pulling out a pen and paper for these videos. Even just watching them has cleaned up a lot of my sloppy play. Thanks skill capped
Sloppy play? Is there such thing in LOL? Is the most simple game where If You have a decent champ, decent farming and skill You win your Lane, the problem is te-am cooperation, teamfight plays and overall obiective achievement, vision and stuff.
@@Extrasailor ever heard of throws?
3:55 was not a hickup by faker at all. it is a minion deny for an auto on him that will not matter due to auto healing - it was actually good positioning by him as TF is unable to move past him at that stage.
genium me definitely right
what do you mean your hitting the time limit? youtube lets you put videos out that are much longer than this.
f wit wants the money
Yeah, it was bothering me as well....
I don't even play league anymore... but I gotta say, this in-depth analysis was still very interesting to watch. Thumbs up!
10:20 that was not dopa moving well it was minion block
Good one, I just realize that.
Also, you can consider it his mistake being in the minion wave that can possibly block your pathing :p
@@cyriod7712 exactly 😂😂
Getting minion block is also a mistake by Dopa. Why are you mad it a only a game.
Imagine what they're saying in all chat
Faker always missing cannons 🤣
Angelo Sennido "I missed that cannon so I lose this gsme "
is that a bug?
It's a 200 IQ move, making the enemy think he is boosted, but he is actually rly good :>
a mechanics god vs. a technical god.
this is the fan favorite "what if gogeta vs. vegito" the 2 top tier players in the world going against each other is like.
3:48 Faker didn't take that auto for no reason , he tried to last hit that melee minion but he died before he could reach it and his auto was canceled , he tried to back off as fast as he can but he couldn't avoid that auto
He also made dopa lose 1 minion
I see Dopa in most of his games as best player for minion wave management, winning also games without strong champs.
Faker and Dopa shouldn't be compared. They are both monster players and one is good at some things and the other is good at other things
Imagine Dopa and Faker being on same team...
Both are midlaners
Actually Dopa reached challenger on 4 accounts playing different lane on each of them.
@@etro0972 Faker is midlaner but Dopa plays 4 roles. Thats why he is the God of LoL.
@@xbelz_ i mean he can climb on 4 roles but on how many can he play at pro level
Ace Trainer Lupi faker reached grandmaster so far queueing as mid / auto full in euw
They're both are beast, and GIANT. But DOPA is on another level. He's fucking unbelievable imo.
imagine 15 minutes content of this video are just seconds for dopa and faker in their mind while playing their lanes.
I feel like faker does all this naturally
You mean missing Cannons.
@@TheReficul is that a bug?
I believe these pro players have natural talent , Yes you can analyse practice practice & practice but you can't be good as Faker , or Faker be good as upcoming pro player because every situation is new specially team fights
Tons of stuff going on in there doesnt matter how much you analyzed and practice it in team fights you have to make decisions in a matter of second in totally different situation in which you practice , if one is made for that he will do it the way he feels is right
Guess what imp made it to diamond in 2 months while I m playing from 5 years and struggle in silver elo
If you practice as much as Messi did you can't be Messi
Faker has said himself that he plays by feel. DOPA is very scientific about it. They have very different playstyles, DOPA studies the game in a different way but they both study. Still I would have to agree with you.
how can you possibly reach that level of play man this is absolutely insane
Hate it when people ask for likes. I'll like the video if I think it deserves MY like. Asking for it nullifies my desire to like the vid.
Never hit notifaction that fast
yeayuhhhhh!
8k likes (not 10k) but they still made part 2
LIARSSSSSSSS.
I still loved the video :3 and upvoted, not for the scam/bait, but the content.
That cliffhanger :8
but great video
thanks a lot even tho you know most of these infos
hearing them over and over again and with such great coments realy helps memorizing them.
Most of the thumbnail use the picture where Dopa is always wearing the same clothes or using the same pic lol
He always wears the same clothes, I assume he has many of the same pieces of clothing that look the exact same and just changes clothes every day if you know what I mean
great tutorials, perfect explanations and the editing is truly remarkable! quick question: how do you get all these pro player replays?
I wonder the same, how do you know who dopa and faker is if they didnt stream and how do you find all of their accounts?
Bojan Rudić clips them from fakers streams
i really hate that "likes extortion" thing that you do in this video, despite i enjoyed, i won't like.
Seriously, what the hell! This is a step beyond clickbait. UN-subbed. Won't dislike cause the video was quality, but there is no way I am liking either.
@@superbond22 I don't think that you should un-sub for it but yeah, they exaggerated here
@@omerfridman6851 they are giving you quality and instructive videos, they are not a big channel and they need to get some revenue, the level of pettiness of you two is sad.
because a like costs you a lot
Is like watching Zeus vs Odin, too out of reach for us
Faker plays to limit test and try new things and focuses on team play. Dope plays few champions and aims to get rank 1.. can’t really compare
If they meet in a match with the intention to win. Then you can compare regardless of their champ pool and playstyle
ban out tf n oriana , dopa fcked..thats why he lowkey never go pro ..his champion pool is too less. both are mechanical gods
@@elvielvi4722 He did went pro, but riot banned him from tournaments because he kept breaking the rules and boosting. He made a clan and quickly went up the ladder and made it far with it
Question, can you get extra mana from last hitting two minions with Vel’Koz q by leveling it up mid cast?
Abhorrent Messenger test it yourself lol
0:50 Orianna do you have eyes 👀?
Lol what a way to get likes. I didn't know there was a time limit to youtube videos.
PRESS THAT LIKE GUYS
3:48 im not sure if that was a fakers mistake. He denied a caster with that agro posture by tanking auto on full hp (let the regen be a stat). Not saying faker doesn't make mistakes but maybe it was planned?
Imagine aliens come to the earth and want to challenge us otherwise they destroy our planet.
They challenge us with lol. They r smart and learn fast as light.
Faker and dopa duo to save the world against smart aliens..
you need to go outside son
are we in inazuma eleven ?
Those aliens would have to be pretty dumb to challenge Faker and Dopa lol
That would be dope but is fake
Some mortal insects dare to comment on Dopa's mistakes?
Auto fanboy mode activated!!
When u become better than him u can talk!!!
Nice vid tho keep it going!
This is some beautiful high-level clickbait, that you dont wanna ignore
they are both insane players , i wouldnt say anyone is better than the other if they meet in soloq , it just depends on there day's form id say :)
in the 3rd game Dopa (4-1-3 TF) lost to Faker (1-2-2 Syndra)
Well done analyzing both micro and macro on such deep level, love to see the mindgames. Dopas TF is a fucking work of art, the second you see the matchup you're like "nah, not even Faker can win that". Absolute unit
I came here to watch Titans clash but I got wild rift autochess
So maybe this is why we saw faker using Twisted Fate on worlds huh?
Upload the full game please.
My mentality: Shoot minion fast hit bad guy hard
Good player's mentality: See above video
Holy shit, that surprise karthas even got me.
Awesome video !!! I would like you to do it with other roles you can pick the one you like... JUNGLERS JUNGLERS !!
apdo's champion pool is so old school. But it still works for him regardless.
Faker LB/Zed vs. Dopa TF
Who would win?
Would Dopas ward not be because he knows Karthus will be on the top side of the map meaning he can hover botside. He might still want vision on that side of the map for anything unforeseen like a support roam or weird ass jungle pathing
A Soraka in full vision all the time pressured under tower roam? As said in video probably an autopilot ward.
12:00 not dopa is missing, faker just dodging :v
Like it people!!!!!! I need to see this game 3!!!!!!!!!
Came back to this vid after a few months.. tried to applied some of dopa's wave management.. went from bronze to gold, stuck in gold tho, probably because i really havent really comprehended wave management.
And did a research on him too.. dopa can carry and throw if he feels like it,lol. While faker been trolling a lot,quite actually funny. Im now more of a fan of dopa than faker.
literally gonna beat u guys up for telling me to like.......*hits like*
Can you made a video about your opinion in pre season
3:50 its not for no reason, see that minion dopa missed for that auto?
13:00 does the trick work with karthus R ?
DOPA is 100% above to faker but the problem is Faker is good in teamming while Dopa is good in solo queue.... so basically they are both GOD in their role...
Dopa is good at a few champs he mains and 1 tricks. Faker uses solo Q to play every single champion and is playing them to a level to always be competing and beating everyone else consistently. Dopa is amazing yes, but he doesn't actually compare when talking about the game as a whole, only when using a filter on the champions he plays.
From these 2 games it seems faker plays more with his jungler while dopa plays to win lane by himself
The fact that they haven't unbanned DOPA seems crazy to me, why wouldn't Riot want a player as good as him and especially with as many fans as him playing?
And all this based on him breaking a rule years and years ago, even in professional sports bans aren't for life. At worst they are 4 or so years, this just seems like bad business.
14:38 Dopa isn't aware of jg pathing LOL
I like how ya'll baited people into another video. Big brain plays.
I'd say on micro base Faker>Dopa
On macro base Dopa>Faker
Faker has wayyy better macro in pro games. Probably the best in the whole game.
@@raymondchoo4770 Except in pro games, there is no dopa like mid laner and SKT as team is a tier ahead of their team. But I get what you are saying
King Dawg Dopa admitted it himself, he said Showmaker is the best mid Laner pre 15 minutes. After 20 minutes, Faker is the beet mid Laner in the whole game. This shows faker is not the greatest during landing phase but can be stable, but can win game through mid and late game.
Dopa appears ro have advantage on macro base simply because his tendency to play a champion like tf that has all what it takes to effect the whole map. I mean split pushing power and ganks with ultimate. Put dopa on different champ, then it’s impossible to decide who has better macro. Tbh I think it’s impossible to know, however if you ask me who is better? I personally think faker is an overall better player.
Solo kills
High Lvl gamers = Greed & Disrespect
Low Lvl gamers = Bragging Rights
Which patch was this? Is dopa in eu?
10k likes, time for part 2
It feels like Light/Kira Vs L
I think it depends on what will they pick
Solo kills are very rare in this skill cap
*Me looking up from silver 3 with a sad face*
This isnt the Lol that I know
Dopa is soloq god period.
Because that is all he does, he goes pro and he wont have too much time for solo queue because of tight schedules with scrims, interviews, tournaments and what not.
Mean while im bronze/silver/gold/plat "minions has spawned" FIRST BLOOD
Meanwhile in iron : " Executed "
@@younesschetouan3697 LMAO
Y'all had plenty of time for the 3rd match smh
Dopa and Faker are completely opposite since dopa is aggressive and faker plays passive i would really like to see them 1v1 midlane in a normal match up
11:18 this 3 min ward may be because Top lose lane priority, so Top crap may lost, so focus on bot crap, then Nunu can gank bot
Top is poppy, and enermy Top + Jungle are range, hard to actually cc
so, hard to die, just trade crap
also denie enermy jungle get double crap
Nice vid guys
People should get to know Dopa more and his scene in China
I'm I the only one who noticed that he only show us 2 not 3 fights ?
Skill-capped would do a horrible explanation video instead of just allowing us to watch the two legends play. Fuck.
Hahahaha peeps don't even know who The 4 time Korea top 1 solo and top 1 china is. In the super server at that!
The difference is that faker is Not playing his mains and is Head to Head with dopas TF and Orianna two of his three biggest mains !!
One looks like main character friend and the other the villain
I feel like Dopa is the better solo player forsure.
at least finish the first mid tower to decide who wins, you decided way too early on first fight for meelee vs ranged
It depends on the 4 random each game
Where is the Caps tp guide :(
Haha on our site! It lost the poll to those pesky junglers..
watching this vid makes me feel nubbier by the minute
I just wish Dopa and CvMax created a team
so let me guess this straigh in the title is saying 3 games and you showe only 2? whydidnt you jsut say part 1 so that is clear also only the early game is not practicaly enough to say who is better cause lets say someone goe ultra ahead but still losing to someone who is a litle more behind
bait
@@BigBy221 sadly
Sorry I understand that you need likes probably for something but gating this sick content behind it is just sad in my opinion. Your content is great but please let it be great instead of doing stuff like this.
I don't blame them. They would barely get 1-2K likes max otherwise.
My problem with that is that if they don't get 10k likes you will miss the 3rd game and that just sucks. This was one hell of an interesting video and I want to see the 3rd part regardless of how many likes it gets.
the demon king vs the rogue hero
It's the same person with a different haircut!
There are no 10k likes but 2 part exists🙂