If you hate RGB then this was meant for YOU!
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- If you hate RGB... then this product wade JUST for you!
New Users sign up for a Free World of Warships Account and receive the following!
7 Days Premium Time
300 Doubloons
1,000,000 Credits
Tier V Ship: HMS Exeter!
Sign up at - wo.ws/3dpELU1
Get your JayzTwoCents Merch Here! - www.jayztwocen...
○○○○○○ Items featured in this video available at Amazon ○○○○○○
► Amazon US - bit.ly/1meybOF
► Amazon UK - amzn.to/Zx813L
► Amazon Canada - amzn.to/1tl6vc6
••• Follow me on your favorite Social Media! •••
Facebook: / jayztwocents
Twitter: / jayztwocents
Instagram: / jayztwocents
SUBSCRIBE! bit.ly/sub2Jayz...
![ว้าว!ลุงบีมแบกทองมารับขวัญหลานกันยกบ้าน [cc] แดนแพทตี้ SS2 | EP.49 |](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Osihq1OAs-4/mqdefault.jpg)
LTT's Linus: I've invested a ton of money into the new LTT Labs! Just replacing the lights in the building will cost us $20k!
GN's Steve: We purchased a fan testing machine, which might even be Apple's old testing machine at a significant investment!
JTC's Jay: Here's a paper towel dispenser, we're going to blow the fan at it. Maybe buy a smoke machine one day...anyways, I digress.
Love how he's probably going to make 10 to 15K on this video for just pointing a fan at a paper towel... great content here :)
@@vandey3420 doubt.
Sorry to be the ACK-SHULLY guy today, but GN's fan testing machine is not the one that might be Apple's old machine. The one that might have been Apple's is the sound isolation chamber. The fan testing machine is brand spankin' new.
That’s what I was thinking 🤣
All approaches are valid, and for the most part all we need to know is fan move air. But the other approaches are important to making sure companies are relatively honest about their claims
First they charged more to have RGB. Now they're charging more again to not have RGB.
Following Apples business guidelines innit 😄
@@Bassquake76 yeah next they're gunna charge you for the cables to even plug the fan in.
And next thing you know, they charge even more, but you won't know if it has RGB or not until you open the (loot)box.
Genius marketing move here 💪😎
The reason I don't like RGB. Is some RGB programs can rob the computer of performance as much as 10 percent. One time I tried RGB and my computer was having random shut downs which is not good for music making. Had to return all the RGB and no more issues. I would rather have a sleeper than eye candy. I'm going to build a am4/AMD this fall. My first build. 🤣 I just realized AMD is a letter away from being the AND company.
The Arctic P12 PWM is my go to non-RGB fan. Reliable, silent, pressure optimized, tested slightly worse than their Noctua counterpart and you get a value pack of 5 for around 30 bucks.
No BS, just good, affordable fans.
Also they use just one simple cardboard box for all 5... if anyone cares for waste reduction/environmental friendliness
I really like the be quiet! pwm fans their branding speaks for itself.
I have fifteen of the P12 PWM fans. I buy a 5-pack whenever I get bored.
I have a couple of those for my exhaust and a couple of the Scythe Kaze flexes for my coolers. That's another nice thing about not using rgb is you can mix and match and you can't even tell. My only rgb are the 3 intake fans up front, I can turn them off and they disappear if I get annoyed by it.
come in white also
just picked up the 5 pack for my build and they have crazy good price to performance, never getting any other fans after these.
6:29 Most Noctua fan include a fan splitter, extension cable, anti vibration mounts and voltage reducer (at least all the noctua fans I have bought). Noctua also has the Chromax versions of their fans now (even the NF-A12)
A12 Chromax? Did that just launch or something? They're not even available here.
@@Efreeti They were launched in october 2021, they are available even here in Brazil.
@@FastSloth87 Not here in Norway :|
@@Efreeti how?! Even I can buy Chromax / Noctua here in Slovakia.
Yea i was about to write that aswell ... all models i bought so far hade hade this with them.
Just buy a 5 pack of Arctic P12 PST's for the same price. I doubt they're any worse for cooling, they daisy chain and there's 5 of them in the pack for $30.
This.
Bought the same pack but 140mm and it's taken my cpu temps by a few C lower however on my wonky gpu cooler which I took the og fans off, the temps are up by 4 C however pc is a lot less audible during gaming
Agreed. Fan prices are getting ridiculous. I bought a set of 3 iCue SP120 fans for $45 around Christmas and went to buy more but they're like $80.
@@jankrol743 4c ain't nothing to worry about. It's worth it for the noise suppression
I purchased the Arctic F12 PWM and they work great full speed do not hear them. Paid 44$ CAD with free shipping from Amazon. 2 on the cooler and 3 for intake on my case. Would buy again.
There are plenty of other non-rgb fans that aren't $30 a pop. They think if they slap ROG on something it becomes some type of premium product. This is a hard pass for me.
I always thought Strix was their RGB name tag. Guess not?
Hardpass for me too if you wanted something without rgb you can always go arctic p12 or p14s
@@khaoticpenguin3945 Strix is mainly used on the highest end stuff in general. It did start as a "cooler" designation on the GPUs though
Absolutely right. For example the Be Quiet! are very very good fans.
Same, have 3080 with 5800 only mainstream fan is noctua CPU fan otherwise it's all 9 dollar quiet fans.
Don't see why you should spend X3 on "gaming" fans. Only reason would be that it's super quiet but don't know if it's even worth it for that.
6:30
Noctua fans come with a splitter, low RPM adapter, an extension, plus 4 rubber mounts. Also cost less
Also come with better support and warranty. Even if these bearings turn out better than SSO2s later down the road, Noctua will literally respond within a day and ship you new fans, internationally. ASUS support can be impossible to reach. If you don't care about that though, it's still really hard to justify since the Arctic P12 PWM PSTs exist and have been lowkey kicking everyone's ass for years in the value department.
FYI: A maglev bearing will always be slightly off center when not correctly powered. It needs power for the maglev to engage and center the rotor. Without power, it's just resting on its crash bushings. Once they're powered up, removing power engages a regenerative mode to power the bearing from the angular momentum of the rotor to keep it from crashing into the bushings at full speed. That's what the weird noise and twitching fans was about.
Is that true for small bearings like you would find in a PC fan? I find it hard to believe it isn't just permanent magnets doing their thing all the time, but I have no actual knowledge on the subject to base that belief on.
@@--_DJ_-- Maglev bearings always have to use active electromagnets, not permanent magnets. The polarities have to constantly switch as the rotor turns and implement a control loop to keep the rotor centered and floating.
@@jameslmathieson I found a diagram of one (omniCOOL), it didn't look like it had electromagnets, but it also had a sleeve bearing which might not be the case in all of these kinds of bearings. The description of how it worked left some to be desired.
If the price is the same, I'm getting the one with more features. If they've removed RGB and the costs associated with it, then price should reflect. If they're saying that the price of RGB hardware is a negligible amount, then the prices of all of their products should be adjusted down to reality.
Depends, if the RGB version have sleeve bearing and this have maglev bearing AND almost 50% higheer static presure, then I can see hy they keeps the prices
I wouldn care ..i still go for none rgb version ...even at same price .. its the performance i pay for ..not the anoying lightshow :P
If you hate RGB and want the best performance without budget constraints, Noctua Chromax is the way. Proven brand and products.
Their customer service is top notch as well. Very personable and fast.
And if you just want a lot of fans, you can get a 5 pack of Arctic fans for around the price of one of these ROG fans.
Any Noctua fan. Better, quieter, cheaper.
No. Get be Quiet!
Jay: "Not Technical"
Also Jay: 5 mins talking about a bend in a tube.
Not technical, then uses a term that is false.
I don't hate RGB, I just don't see the need to have EVERYTHING in a build that can have RGB loaded with it.
One way to do the air movement test is to use dry ice in water in a container with a small opening for the vapor to escape through.
Or blow a big hit off a joint at it and compare to other fans....lots of fans.
"would you spend $30 just to stick it to rgb companies?"
I have noctuas
Yeah, and we’re also sticking to non-brown fan manufacturers
@@calebland6246 Noctua makes black stuff now, although I think they actually charge extra for it.
@@megachonk9440 Or gray fans if you get the redux fans. Love the aesthetics of the redux line.
So nice to see something not RGB for a change
I saw no RGB and I was all in.
🤓
You can get Noctua or Arctic fans that are non-RGB and perform similarly for way less money. Why would you pay RGB fan pricing for non-RGB fans? These fans seemingly have no purpose but to appeal to ROG Strix superfans that for whatever reason don't want RGB fans. Even though pretty much everything from the ROG Strix line is RGB. So there's basically no market for this fan.
Damn was it difficult to find a decent case with no transparent side(s).
Finding all the components with no RGB was easy in comparison.
You're so boring you make vanilla jealous, lol. I yuss keedeeng. In all honesty with aesthetics aside, rgb is a deep, deep rabbit hole/money syphon. Especially when you get into full ecosystems where the entire setup is lit up like a Roman candle. I'm a 50 yr old man, and my cave looks like a 16 yr old gaming/Marvel fan lives in it. I've bought so many fans for my system my wife has blacklisted them from purchase. 😂😂Give it another 5 yrs and people will need support groups to try to get away from lighting, LOL.
6:30 I'm fairly sure Noctuas come with splitters & extensions. I sure have plenty of them in my spares box
you are fairly right 💪
I've never liked the RGB stuff. Hell, when every GPU on Earth starting coming with LED, I kept looking for ways to disable them. I'm particularly sensitive about tones and shades of lights, and NOTHING I've ever owned with case lighting has ever matched sufficiently. If I ever do anything with lights, I'll get a box of LED of the color I want, and make my own harness.
And that’s exactly why whenever I add parts to my rig, I have black and red electrical tape next to me, LED’s can’t shine through the tape 😉
@Jolly Jumper Yeah, totally bud. I’m that fed up with it, that if any of the children want pc parts I make a point of saying I refuse to buy RGB parts. If RGB is that important to them, they can save up their own money to purchase it 😂
I know it was initially due to people with ASD, as the light pulsing etc can help to calm the mind and whatnot, but how it’s become the standard for anyone who wants to look like they have a level 9000+ rig is just daft imho 😅
@Jolly Jumper Tbh, I based it from what I was always told (and maybe yourself too):
A gift is to the descretion of the person giving it, if you want specific then use your own money.
I mean, don’t get me wrong, the kids are doing allright for tech, phones aren’t exactly old, rigs are using parts within last 2-4 years (mainly gpu’s lagging behind of course 😂) so they aren’t losing out, except on bloody lights on every single sodding pc part 😂😂🤣🤣
Lmao then just buy the same components from a company that doesn’t add rgb to all them products. Or ya know, you can just turn off the lights with a click in the software 🤦♂️ but it sure is easier to complain and want to get noticed in here 🤣🤣🤣 what a pos lmao 🤣 🤣🤣🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🖕🖕🖕
That is one of the reasons why my current build is behind the monitor. I can't turn the motherboard RGB off. The other is the two, loud barking, very fuzees.
You can get a 5 pack of some of the Arctic fans for about the same price as one of those. OK they are fluid dynamic bearing ones but still. I'm not budged constrained and still got 10 of the Arctic ones. Refusing to pay that much for one fan.
If you look at the testing, the difference between the P12 PWM and Noctua's whatever is minimal. If you want a step up in performance, you go Phantek T30. Then you're over 100 for a 3 pack WITHOUT rgb. lmao
@@jesh879 Yes, the Arctic PWM PST fans are great. Built in fan splitter and perfect for a water cooling solution. Also at around $30-35 they are a much better deal than those Phantek T30s. I might go for those if I had unlimited money but the gains over the Arctic fans wouldn't be enough to notice in most situations.
"OK they are fluid dynamic bearing ones"
implying that is such a mega loss
Refusing to pay that little for one fan again.
I can't stand the horrible noise Arctic fans make around certain RPM ranges.
And i also never understood why people always cheap out on fans/coolers of all things.
They are the one component that will last a decade or longer, especially with something like Noctua fans that last forever and outperform almost anything, same with the coolers and free mounting brackets even for 10+ year old coolers.
@@kwedl The fuck I care about "last forver", when I can get 5 fans for the price of one "long lasting" fan.
“I have never seen a fan come with a fan splitter” What?! Jay you’re telling me you’ve never bought a Noctua, thermaltake, or Arctic fan?
Nope, they all get given to him instead. 😁👍
@@MafiaboysWorld lol nice.
Facts tho
That was my first thought...
The Thermaltake Riing Led fans come with a splitter
@@johnhurst7226 does it let you control each individual fan with the splitter, or are they all linked to the fan connecting to the mobo?
6:30 noctua fans come with a splitter, extension and a low noise adapter (extension w/ a resistor in it) and i think they use that same sleeving
I second that smoke machine idea. To see how the air moves through it would be very neat.
If I'm going for an RGB free build, I'm going with Phanteks T30 fans or Noctua chromax. No point to not get the best.
Actually there's plenty of reason when one of those fans cost the same as 3-4 cheaper fans that do the exact same things
I have RGB that i don't even use, I find it to be too distracting.
@@technewb8241 manufacturer put that on the box so u belive it. lol ok. tell me how a SW3 fan can beat a T30 on cfm per noise lvl
@@technewb8241 so u rly belive that a 25mm fan is better than a 30mm fan??
@@technewb8241 HW canucks tested SW3 vs T30 ... SW3 wasnt even close..
Would love to see a temperature, noise and airflow test between these and Noctua fans at various speeds.
Considering the motor hum though... 😬
+1 good suggestion.
I bought 3 and had to return them because they were noisy as hell tbh
@@Zupkew Did you customize the fan profile after installation?
Just looking at the tech spec they should perform about the same.
@@CheapBastard1988 I don’t remember actually, I’ve become a lot more experienced with setting up fan profiles the past 6 months, and I had these fans for a short while in maybe janauary. I don’t actually remember their noise level at a reasonable RPM, but when I maxed out 3 fans in the front of a meshify 2 case it sounded like a vacuum cleaner.
My favorite case is the Be Quiet! Power Base 500, plain black paint, no clear side panel. Saves me from spending on unneeded fluff. The only flashy lights I like are on keyboards and maybe the mouse. The main reason for backlit keyboards is the key labels don't wear out.
Just remember with fans like these, where the screw tabs are they just stick out, with no support underneat, and when screwing into a rad you can easily over tighten without realising and go a few millimeters too deep, speaking from personal user error in the past when i was even more super noob.
Has Jayz2cents ever reviewed Arctic fans? I’d like to see them get more coverage, as opposed to Corsair/Lian Li.
Jayz gives too much importance to aesthetics to care about that. Luckily we have other channels
Hardware Canucks made a great comparison video between the fans you're talking about.
Noctua 3000 rpms are the way to go
Arctic RGB-less fans cost around a fifth of these from Asus.
He has had artic fans in a video.
Jay: “I don’t have GN’s fan tester because it’s too technical”
(Proceeds to point the fan at a paper towel roll and slap paper towels to show fan performance)
@kyra Issa joke
@kyra Tech specs mean a lot to lots of people and seeing them tested also does. It might not to you, but there are plenty who find it interesting and are happy to watch dry content for good info.
@kyra It’s not just the specks, but how fans compare to each other. We have no idea if the fans in the video compare favorably to fans that cost much less. The average person does care if they are getting good value.
@kyra maybe the tech specs don't but actually comparing one fan to another can make a huge difference. Fans are expensive, so if there are ones that are cheaper than Noctua but perform about as well as Noctua, then you can save money and spend it elsewhere like on a better GPU
I recently had to replace the fans on my AIO and there was only 1 high quality fan option that had no RGB LEDs at Micro Center, nice to see the market hasn't completely vanished
Jay ignoring Noctua for years 🤣
For the price of one of these you can get a 5-pack of Arctic P12 that probably perform better, Arctic has been making cooling equipment for decades, ASUS is just cashing in on the brand name
This. I have P12’s and P14’s in my O11 D Evo build, are they the best quality? No, quietest fans? Not really, but the amount of air they push is astonishing which is all that should really matter, most are gaming with headphones anyway so I don’t get the noise argument…
I just got the 5 pack in, I usually just buy uphere fans which are decent but I wanted to switch to 4pin fans and I’m over rgb and the arctic p12 feel premium
Asus one flows a bit better spec I would imagine the main difference for the cost is the magnetic vs sleeved bearing. So it would mainly come down if you care about that.
P12
Fan Speed: 1800 rpm
Airflow: 56.3 CFM/ 95.7 m³/h
Static Pressure: 2.20 mm H₂O
No db listed
Asus
Fan Speed
1800 rpm (+/- 10%)
Fan Airflow
62.5 CFM
Fan Pressure
3.07 mm H2O
Fan Noise Level
22.5 dB(A)
The P and F fans are not the best performing, quietest, or really anything else. They are very affordable for what they deliver though. I pretty much use Noctua coolers and arctic fans. 🤷♂️
@@Funktapuss76 Because not all gamers do competitive shooters. Only competitive shooters require headphones.
Noctua gives you splitters, speed reducers, almost everything except an extra fan. At least the 3-4 different models I've bought.
Only exception is if you get the 'redux' versions - those have the fan only for less $$
Jay - "I have never ever in my life seen a fan come with a fan splitter"
Noctua - "dude, wtf?!"
I always love the "JAY! JAY! JAAAAaaaaayy" part of the world of warships sponsor spot, it makes me laugh everytime
It looks like Im gonna stay with my beautiful BeQuiet Silent Wings 3 fans for a long time!
If they work and do their job well, HELL YES stick with it 🙏💪
Those are legit fans, and as a Noctua fan (no pun intended), you know I don't say that lightly.
I hate rgb because the companies lock all the controls of it behind their proprietary software that is usually garbage and possibly spyware. I know there are open source programs but they don't always work correctly and you still may not be able to access all the features.
they do not. not all of them. not the most important once.
Yeah they should really come up with a standard for that. Have like 3 or 4 different bloatware programs to change my RGB and shit.....
And here's another....individual whining & complaining. You all are just grasping for straws at this point to find something that will support your foolish beliefs. If you're concerned about "spyware" why are you even using these smart devices and programs provided (i.e. Google-marketing/data center) for you to comment on. Microsoft Windows have been selling your personal data. Hell, before the internet retailers, credit card companies, utility companies, etc. were and still selling your data. This was why you receive "junk mail" and telemarketer calls. But we need to watch for RGB software that the majority of case fans do not need because you have the OPTION to use the motherboard bios, the motherboard software, or just simply unplug the RGB from it's controller/header.
Corsairs software works for all my rgb stuff including asus board and gpu.
@@Xirpzy maybe i should try that one, worked fine with a stock prism cooler and a gigabyte gpu on a gigabyte mobo. could even control the gskill memory with the gigabyte software but now i switched to an asus gpu with an nzxt AIO on a gigabyte mobo and for some reason the gigabyte software wont control my ram properly anymore so now I'm stuck with like 4 different programs just for the pretty lights on my pc XD (though you can just close most and kill the processes and shit once it's configured)
For that price you can get few Arctic fans or be quiet ones, those companies only recently started doing rgb fans but still do many types without. As much as I like Asus as a brand think they overpriced on many of their products.
“All we care about is how much does it make the paper flop…”
Shots fired lol
I don't hate RGB, some of it can look pretty good. But my home PC is a bedroom one next to the TV, so I don't want any lights or noise. I want black case and silent fans. Which is why I went with BeQuiet on both counts.
For an office or games room setup though, yeah I'd probably go nuts with them!
Same. I have a bequiet case and fans of theirs for 7 years now, and combined with disabling all LED lighting in bios and gpu software it's just a black box that makes neither noise nor light, as it should be.
HOW have you never seen a Y splitter come with a fan??? Literally every Noctua fan comes with one included XD
Jay doesn't "review" products that don't pay a ton of money. And noctua doesn't need to advertise.
I just got a pair of Noctua Redux's last week and there was nothing with them besides 4 mounting screws
@@bubba966 maybe because you got the lower end models and not the regular noctuas like the chromax
Like I always say, I love my Artic P12. They are so cheep and so good in performance.
I HATE RGB *proceeds to build custom loop with fluid brighter than the colors of the rainbow*
I don’t mind a little rgb if it’s going to be in a display build, but I don’t see why literally every component (including the damn fans and RAM) “needs” it.
Meh. I agree Shoktan, it's usually pointless. The only thing in my build with RGB is the GPU(and the RGB is turned off) and ironically the power supply. It's a ROG thor that I got a great deal on. It's in a shroud and not visible though hah.
"More RGB = more quality!"
The heads of component manufactoring
I feel like Steve is sensing a disturbance in the force due to all this 'science'. Great content Jay. Cheers!
Jay isn't force sensitive. So he's not a threat. This was shown when Steve have beaten Jay easily in both head-to-head matches.
I built a standard black, non-RGB build. It's fantastic because when I'm gaming I'm looking at my screen and not the computer itself. The flashiest thing about it is that its in a corsair 4000D case. i love it.
I'm surprised you did a whole video on expensive fans with no RGB without mentioning Noctua once.
Well, he is bought by the other companies. He never use noctua which is weird since they are the absolute authority when it comes to PC fans. That's too bad, I like jay but can't trust someone who's bought... :/
Honestly I wish every company would just make a version without all the stupid lights..
RGB is fine if you're trying to build a show build but I just want a computer that's going to sit on a shelf above my floor and nobody's ever going to see it so I don't need 20,000 fucking watts of lighting to be locked inside a box that nobody's going to be seeing...
It's stupid and it's a waste of electricity..
Calm down man. You can get many fans these days that have RGB, push plenty of air & are low noise. You don’t have to get them. Grab your non-RGB fans & let others do what they want…
@@TheEthNick Why don't you RGB enthusiasts calm down and let us who don't want RGB do what we want?!
@@mjc0961 no one’s stopping you. He did just say “You don’t have to get them”
Noctua , now in black!
There ya go.
You can literally turn off the RGB. You could literally buy Noctua, Arctic, Corsair, etc. non RGB fans. You could literally stick with the stock case fans. You all whine like babies when companies don't give you options. Now you're whining about an OPTION that you don't have to buy nor do you have to enable.
Major Hardware has small test tube / wind tunnel and a thing to measure the speed and calculate the cfm. Not as precise as the one gamers nexus got, but for your needs I think it is fine
The reason the air seems to go further through a radiator, is because you are moving the same volume of air but through a smaller aperture (because of the fins taking up space directly in front of the fan). This has the effect of speeding up the air slightly, which makes it travel further.
Basic fluid dynamics through pipes, etc. Push the same volume of air/water through a smaller pipe with the same initial pressure, and it travels faster.
I have 3 of these in my front of the case. No problems. No noise
love anti-RGB builds
Soon manufacturers will charge more for NOT putting rgb in their products 🤣
Ssshhh...it is rgb month here in the US.
Non-RGB is always a plus, and makes it more likely I would choose it.
😁
2:40 one might say that’s the best measurement method known to man. Love yall
2:45 Gamer Nexus is sinking his face straight into his hands..." we put a Tape on it..." :)
I've been looking for some new fans... These looks good.
Although I am in the 100% passive cooling camp, I actually enjoyed this 💪😌
Nice! I'll probably stick to Noctua, but it's always good to have more quiet, high quality options for dodging the rainbow vomit.
Fans or pumps mounted in Parallel (side by side) doubles the volume but the pressure stays the same. Mounted in series (back to back) the volume stays the same but the pressure doubles.
I really like the idea of the smoke machine!! The flow through radiators and through the case as a whole sounds very jayztwocents!!! Also something I’d tune in for as a series! US ton of work though !-)
"I have never ever in my life seen a fan come with a fan splitter"
Yeah, you don't use Noctua
@kyra Watch the video again.
Jay, you know what I would LOVE for a video? A video on how to re-sleeve your own cables with Paracord. Like how do you get the wires out of the connector, how do you get them back in, how do you make sure you put them back in right, that kinda stuff. I'd love to re-sleeve my own stuff I just have no idea how.
For a blackout build sure I would definitely buy these fans
Always love jay's adds
I can't really say I hate RGB, but I'm definitely tired & kinda annoyed at the over use fad that's been going on for a long time now. All these builds that look like a unicorn on an acid trip is taking a dump in the case, personally I think RGB looks the best as an accent piece or a way to make your hardware pop.
Couldn't agree more 😋
Also I'm pretty put off by how they can't seem to make it work without a bunch of obnoxious control boxes to try and plug in correctly, so it can try to interface with bloated software that doesn't work half the time. We have motherboard headers for RGB now and still companies screw this up with their own connectors and unneeded boxes.
Especially Corsair. Every single time a creator does a sponsored build with Corsair RGB fans, I'm always reminded why I will _never_ buy Corsair fans even if I did decide I wanted RGB fans some day.
Stacking them will increase airflow a bit. It's not like 2 will be double, but it should be significantly more than 1. 5 is probably well into diminishing returns.
There are aircraft and helicopters with stacked fans (usually contrarotating, to straighten the flow).
I wouldn't spend $30 on them, but recently they've been on sale for $19.99 on Amazon, and for that price, I feel it's a fair value, for a good slid fan. Just as good as a Noctua, and they look better IMO.
I always love now silly nonchalant Jay is compared to other media groups. He's the 'real nerd' on the test bench, and goofs are the best part! ... And Fingers! ;D Oh and +2 for NON-RGB fans. I make a computer to use, which is usually in a corner, under a desk, not to look at it :P
I had so so much trouble finding specific ram without RGB it's unreal.
🤓
I wanted white ram sticks with out RGB I got corsair vengeance LPX ram in the end but is way more than the Black or the red for some reason getting the White RGB would have been cheaper.
@@mixit2413 I hear ya!
My ram was about 50% more expensive than similar ones WITH rgb.
I was looking for "G.Skill Trident Z F4-3200C15D-32GTZ" ram.
Only one set available for me without rgb at only one seller in my EU country.
I heard some horror stories about ram corrupting because of faulty instructions from janky rgb-software, and i didn't want to risk it.
RGB would also not have fit the aesthetic of my build.
@@DeeDee-pw9pm My build is more about the aesthetics' than even performance I've made some part compromises to get the look I want. If your going white these can cost more money.
@@mixit2413 Yeah, the very specific colors really are more difficult to get and more expensive.
Otherwise you'd have to paint it yourself if possible.
I laughed so much when Jay put his finger in the fan :P
I think at the end you actually came up with a good way to measure air flow (force). You can just see how far a piece of paper towel is pushed. And how far it goes.
I shall continue to stick with my fractal venturi fans. Great airflow, incredibly quite, no rgb.
one should in general stick to something that works and does the job well 💪😌
*Next month*
Jay: Hey guys I got a new smoke machine for this fan review!
*Proceeds to vape into the fans"
When you turn the fan with your blower, the fan turns into a generator (think wind mill) and it will generate power for the other hooked up fans.
I wish there were fans that had light black instead of the see through white plastic allowing a bright enough rgb to be seen clearly when on and look nice when it’s powered off
With Corsair’s maglev fans w/o RGB being 20 and 22 per fan for 120 and 140 with a solid reputation, I’d go that route honestly
16:37 F' YEAH!
Funny comments about your fan videos Jay....one of your fan videos was literally the first JTC video I ever watched!!!
Maglev does have fluid inside. Its just an improved sleeve bearing, but better in almost every aspect except cost.
Just received a JTC Corsair XC8 block and I'm blown away at the fit and finish of it can't wait to swap it into my loop
You have a more down-to-earth, non -pompous ass way about you. The everyday guy. That's why I love your videos. My wife tends to cringe when I watch your videos because she knows...money is about to be spent
Pull the rubber through the fan mount hole, and then stretch it a bit more, and fold it in half, and push the surplus back through the fan mount hole. (That's what I do when I use them, anyway). Thanks for the vid as always. Cheers, - 🍻
My build is RGB heavy but I keep them all to a low red brightness for nighttime illumination, no fancy rave config.
I run a Noctua cooler and six Noctua fans for a while now, and they dropped the temps and the noise significantly, they serve me flawlessly in my new system. So they are kind of an investment.
Best fan testing lab I've seen yet. I've been burned out on RGB since they started calling it RGB. I still have single colored LED fans. It seems they were marketing this fan as higher quality professional as opposed to kiddie toy RGB, and trying to sell for the same price, and then cheaping out on the quality. Then they will say, "I guess people prefer RGB", when the problem was the crap quality all along. The main reason I hate RGB is all the fan controller cable clutter, 1 lead is all I need.
well i did purchased B-quet performance fans to remove RGB lights from my case... i would most likely buy this once as well
Aside from the bearing, I agree with you, seems a bit lackluster in terms of offering compared to other of similar price points
if your going to use a fog machine get a 2ft square piece of plexi,
cut the hole and mount the fan in the middle. keeps the fog from rolling over
the fan edges and makes it pull the fog thru. better testing the air flow.
I love the fact that they're not RGB and have no extra wiring to clutter up the install. I'm not going to rush out and buy a bunch, because for that money I'll just some more Noctuas, but it's nice to have more non-RGB options.
Just the lack of extra wires is nice. I would love to see a video where Jay builds two otherwise identical systems - but one has no RGB components (or cabling) at all, and one does. I want to see a side by side of the cable management.
Watching your fan videos is the reason I know what fans to buy for my pc and what are gonna be the best for what I need
Upvote just for watching Jay getting his finger caught in the fan. It's like Linus dropping expensive stuff at this point. :D
My next build is going to be completely free of leds, but it feels like now that all the best parts always have them, and if you want to get rid of leds, you have to go for a lower performance/quality item.
You should buy miniature airport windsock you can use to see how well the fans work from various distances, that'd be a nice way to do it instead of using paper towels.
As one SNL character would say after hearing the price: "GOOD LAWD that's a lotta money!"
The reason why adding fans makes the noise floor louder is that the fans all move the air in the same way at the same speed and have the same motor hum and other mechanical noises. So you get constructive interference of the sound waves each fan produces. Which makes the combined noise louder
GAMER'S NEXUS was not harmed in this video 🤣
At that price point this fans just gets lost behind Noctua and Bequiet.
Jay reminds me of my uncle. He'd ask for me to visit him in his garage and then goofily show me a bunch of his new tools and toys.
Wow, a fan without RGB!!!! Omg, the innovation, the money and engineering that went in making it.................... Wow!!🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
And here, I'm using Noctua fans like a boss...👍👍
2:40 Love it! xD No reason being too sciencey...
Noctua comes with fan splitter on CPU coolers that I have purchased. Also resistors to reduce fan speed/noise. Never used those though.
I like RGB fans! They are my "Mood Rings" of the 21st Century. I set them to refkect how I am feeling on any given day. Jay sank my Battleship...
I love RGB i switch between static colours dependant on my mood but it's good to see variety for those who don't like it