The Dragonborn: 'Doom' of the Dovahkiin? THEORY [Skyrim l Elder Scrolls Lore]
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Hey subfuries! I'm sorry for such a long video, but elder scrolls lore always has so much to talk about. What do you think will happen to the Last Dragonborn? This "doom" Tsun speaks of seems to drive dovahkiin to great good and great evils or sentence them to die trying as they lose their humanity. I've always wondered what absorbing so many dragon souls would do to a man, so here we are. Hope you enjoyed! 😊
~ Tim
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Hello Future Me (if u can find the information) can you please do a how was the dragonborn created?
Hello Future Me don't be the length of the of the vidios don't matter
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THE HELL
"What's better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?"
One of my favorite quotes of all time.
I still killed him. He cant run from his past.
-Mario.
+Daniel Choate I told Delphine to do it herself if she wanted to and then summoned Durnehviir inside the Blade Headquarters. I never went back cos that way I get to pretend he killed them.
Ok, 1. Thanks for quoting me, Kubo. And 2. Sorry Daniel, I’m still alive. Can’t kill me.
We all die it's wether you fight or give in. If you know and do not act you do not truly know. all one powerful ideology
This also explains why you can become leader/thane of all most everything its[the dovahkiins dragon instinct]trying to "take over" skyrim
I think it's best exemplified in the dawnguards DLC, where you can fight for your fellow people, or you can leave them behind, choosing to become a predator of men and mer.
I have to admit, it's really hard to NOT want to be a vampire, the power you get coupled with the ability to nullify your would be greatest weakness. It's very freaking tempting.
bogustoast22 none But You are Dovah, those pests are nothing compared to your power as Dragonborn
bogustoast22 none yeah, but then I realised being a werewolf didn’t have the extreme cons that being a vampire has, so I just chose werewolf, besides, the laat dovahkiin will have lost his entire mortal side by the time he chose being a vampire because the Dragonborn that truly wants to do good will choose to not be a vampire, but we don’t know the canon of the laat dovahkiin besides the main storyline so... eh.
@@nin2494 you are right, and even the penality of going to the hunt lands would be better than losing your soul Thou i think that Akatosh will have always a greater claim than any daedric lord to your soul as you are a fragment of him.
@@drackestalentorgen166 Look, if Dovahkiin dies, their soul will go to Akatosh because you are basically his incarnation. That cart sequences starts with you waking up but in actuality, you are reborn with soul of Akatosh. That prisoner whom you play as Dragonborn was actually dead but since Akatosh knew that Alduin will appear in Helgen, he took that mortal body for his own purpose and to warn Alduin that if he doesn't mend his ways, there will be consequences. Obviously, Alduin's ego blinded him and well, finally you defeated him. Now, why you didn't able to capture his soul. Simple, Akatosh claimed it for himself. So, similarly, when or if Dovahkiin dies, no Daedra will dare to mess with Akatosh for Dovahkiin's soul because although, it's said that Aedra's are little weaker than Daedra since they gave half of their power to create Nirn and Mundus however, despite so many tries by Daedras, they terribly failed due to Aedra's intervention, just like in Oblivion's crisis. So, what I believe only Aedra's have the power to destroy Nirn and Alduin will return once again when Akatosh will decide that the end of the kulpa is inevitable.
I hadn't noticed the connection of taking power with almost every known Dragonborn but your video makes perfect sense of it, It actually sparked an idea about the future of our character, Obviously Bethesda can't use our character by name but maybe there is a way they can. So, as we know Dragon priests have masks named in the Dragon tongue that give them power beyond usual mortals. I would say that a dragon priest mask isn't just a personal thing, I think Dragon priest masks are more of a title, such as Hevnoraak's "Brutal" or Volsungs "Horror" implying there was something about the people who wore these masks that made them embody these words. Miraak too has Allegience-Guide, personally I cannot make sense of this as I am writing this comment so I'll let whoever is reading do their best as well. However, I think there is one mask that the Last Dragonborn would embody, infact, based on information given in the video, that any Dragonborn is drawn to embody... Konahrik: "Warlord", an almost perfect name for the likes of a dragonborn who multiple times in previous history has been just that, A Warlord who conquered throughout their lifetime. So if Bethesda wanted a twist in the next game referencing the Last Dragonborn by "name", if the circumstances were right, Konahrik, would be near perfect. Congrats if you made it this far, browny points to you
I know a year has gone by. What if the Dragonborn does become Konahrikafter conquering the dragon priests, the last true vestige of dragon influence in the world, and instead of conquering Tamriel like Tiber Septim but destroys it, tears it asunder in a dragon soul fueled madness. He brings the world to its knees not to rule it. And in their wake, the world that is left is one with no empire no dominion, just the land, and its people.
Hmmmm...
Dovahkiin Konahrik.
Dovahkiin being a surname representing his status as one of the dragon-blood.
Konahrik being a personal name representing his actions, deeds, and identity.
I like it.
I would name it a dragon word for "final" or "last", maybe "ending"
As you are the last dragonborn. You slew the remnants of the dragons, Miraak and Alduin. The dragons are no more and ends with you.
I managed to both follow and understand this whole comment, and it makes perfect sense to me. This seems like an awesome idea, a subtle hint at us in the previous game
This leaves me to wonder if Akatosh is truly good. If your lust for power increases with each dragon slain, then how power hungry is akatosh?
That’s the secret, Aedra are evil long live the Daedra!
@@pisscvre69 Mankar?
@@pisscvre69 Mankar? Is that you?
@@pisscvre69 And the Dunmer shall trust only the Good Daedra!
Akatosh is the 5th strongest being in all of Elder Scrolls. Behind Lorkhan (#4), Padomay (#3), Anu (#2), and The Amaranth (#1)
Doom-driven is a reference to Lorkhan (The Name means Doom Drum) and the fact that the Dragonborn as Ysmir is a Shezarrine (a mortal fragment of the Defeated Lorkhan) so when he/she is called Doom-driven by Tsun, it means sent by Shor/Lorkhan to be a Hero for the world and to Liberate Sovngarde from the clutches of Alduin.
The best part is Lorkhan is a trickster god so those daedra you “pledges your soul” to are gonna get screwed over on their deals.
@@wtpiv6041 Lorkhan is a Trickster god to Mer, which believe they were tricked into mortality and confined them to Nirn, never to be reunited with the Aedra ("our ancestors"); it's considered a "Good" God by Men since he gave them death and a way to ascend to Aethirius (Where the Magna-Gee, followers of Magnus the Architect of Nirn, escaped).
It's a complex matter since every aspect of a God is real, so Akatosh is Auriel and Alduin, while Lorkhan is Shor and Shezzarr.
These two, in particular, are the most debated gods in existence, the sole reason the Empire and the Aldmeri Dominion exist and are at the core of what happens in the entire Elder Scrolls Lore.
They are the direct incarnation of the two major forces in the universe Order and Chaos, Anu and Padomay, not entities per se, but concepts incarnated into Everything and Nothing (Anui-el and Sithis), which then took consciousness and created Auri-el/Akatosh and Lorkhan/Shezzarr (Time and Space). I won't go into details since this is where every single race has his own idea of the same Deity and it's through worship that they "shape" Order and Chaos themselves and in turn Nirn as a whole.
So the protagonist in TESV is a dragonborn and a shezarrine at the same time? Coooool
@@dominiccenteno1233 Yeah, at least that's one theory. Shezarrines are a bit complicated to say the least so a lot of what I said was one of the working theories.
@@scientoakuilusakuilar pretty cool theory. An aspect of both Lorkhan and Auriel
You do avatar, lotr and skyrim. All the best things in the world on one channel. Awesome
Welcome to the community! Three of my favourite things in the world. I should really do more Elder Scrolls.
~ Tim
Also if you remember Clavicus he says you almost rival him, a Daedric Prince, in power when you ask for power. It shows you'll keep wanting power and to dominate.
A valid point. Though to be fair I believe that when Clavicus Vile says that to you he is still separated from Barbas, who, as is told to us, is the majority of his power in the mortal realm. So Clavicus' full meaning by saying that is a little subjective. But even so rivalling the power of a weakened Daedric Prince absolutely ridiculous.
The Vampire Druid I think if the DB ever went to one of the planes in oblivion, a prince would have trouble killing them. Plus would a prince want to offend akatosh himself by “killing/stealing” away his last child?
We are stuck with mora because it was the only way to stop mirrak but he doesn’t have us in death. Plus he lets DB travel between realms on good faith.
You're not stuck with mora whatsoever. He knows he can't eff with a DB because your soul is a shard of time and only a dragon or db can defeat and "kill" him. You've seen how he cowards from Miraak in his own domain. Miraak had the run of the place, took over a part of his own realm smh. So in order to get rid of this problem and stopping Miraak from leaving he pitted another DB (you) against him so that he could get rid of the potential problem permanently.
And for fate I was reading a blog post earlier stating that TLD isn't outside of fate and Azura solidify this when speaking to her about her star but my thing is this. Azura clearly was expecting you to return her star to her but the thing is you have the option to take the star back to the elf turning it into the black star meaning that she's wrong and TLB indeed is outside of fate because Azura vision was that you would be the one to return her the star but instead you have the choice to change the fate of the star and sever the star's connection from her.
Luxu yae Chihasu Almost rival him, when he doesn’t have Barbas, he said.
@@eltonj888 Now we had Miraak’s and tons of dragon soul too
It would be great to see in the next game that the Dragonborn has taken over Skyrim and become the high king.
Imagine having to fight off another invasion of the Nords, led by the Dragonborn.
@@woofergranade2044 yeah imagine Dragonborn riding dragon and leading his army Odaving at left side and they fighting against Aldmeri Dominion those elfs got serious problem
If you could also be the next game ebony warrior I'm the greatest ever and I need someone great to kill me
Doubt it most dragonborn never had much of a big history except talos himself and i fear the same goes for him. I'd wager he settled for a quiter life after the game
Very interesting video. Though I do agree with all the points you brought up, the orginial/archaic meaning of "Doom" was the same thing as "fate" or "destiny" without the negative "destruction/death" connotations, which developed later.
So when he calls you "doom driven" he most likely means that you are pushed onwards by the will of fate i.e. your destiny to battle and defeat Alduin, not necessarily that you are going to lose or destroy yourself (though many legendary heroes do meet a bad end). However every point you made is still true in my eyes. If the Dragonborn is not careful they could suffer the fate of so many before them and go from a legendary hero, to a tragic one.
You're absolutely right on that, though I do have to wonder whether the Skyrim script writers had considered that original meaning haha!
~ Tim
I was about to comment on this very same thing. HFM, you have a surprisingly on-point comments section. :)
As to whether they wrote it this way intentionally or not...it makes sense that Tsun would speak of it like that because of how archaic he is, and we established that the lore guys at Bethesda are mad geniuses, soooo...probably yes? I think?
As I played more and more of Skyrim, I wondered about this topic myself. After all, dragonborn is basically a dragon in a mortal body. I eventually came to the conclusion that as the Dragonborn, you have to resist your Draconic nature.
“What’s better to be born good or to overcome your evil nature with great effort”
What's most interesting to me is that Paarthurnax had to understand his nature in order to overcome it. Could the Dragonborn really know how to resist their urge to dominate right away? Or would they first have to understand what it means to succumb to it?
Very much explains why Talos was so driven to conquer Tamriel.
Been binging your videos recently. Great stuff man. keep it up. just wondering tho how many times u watched each ATLA and TLOK episode 😁
Omg ranton wassup man!
I've been finding your comments on multiple of these old Skyrim videos..
Skyrim does not go into depth much but it gives you one clear point that I can see: the dragon born shapes history there is one before every major event for instance oblivion or skyrim even, without the dragon born history cannot move forward, the war was a stale mate until you came and sided with the imperials or stormcloaks it stays like that until you go for the quest or look at the dark brotherhood quest you can go months in the game and the dark brotherhood will stay the same the arentino boy still won't get noticed, Cicero does not get his wheel fixed, and the sanctuary does not get destroyed same goes with the thief guild and the college of winter hold and the bards college. The same goes with oblivion with the ending and the main quest
Wow, this seems like fixing a plothole for "open worlds" as they only move forward, when the player does. Being a dov and a splitter of time itself makes therefore "sense".
Actually Bethesda does this thing with their games lore that the events of the games and factions happen even if the player didn't do those questlines. I.E. even though you may not have done the Thieves Guild story in oblivion according to the lore someone still stole an Elder Scroll from the moth priests. Kodlak still gets murdered by the Silver Hand even if the Dragonborn isn't a Companion. Doing the factions quests just cements in the player's head canon that the Dragonborn did those things.
@@MrDiarukia In Elder Scrolls world, every thing is controlled by Akatosh in one way or other because he is God of Time, so it actually makes sense that our heroes are somewhat blessed by Akatosh and Dovahkiin being his reincarnation.
This carries, a lot can happen without player intervention before Oblivion because there are Dragonborn Emperors making things happen. But if you look at Oblivion, you aren't the hero, you're an agent to the hero, a blade in service to Martin the Dragonborn heir to the throne. If it were a game of chess you'd be the Knight while Martin is the king. But until you go and find Martin, nothing happens, as if time has stopped on his behalf, until after you decide to make your way there then the night you get there boom, a gate to Oblivion opens. TES has the wildest universe, fun stuff.
So basically the Dragon born is the "Either you die as a hero or live long enough to see yourself in becoming a villain"
The phrase "coursing through their veins" gives me shivers.
Every.
Single.
Time.
I love it.
Shining Dawn I've heard it so many times that I kind of view it as a cliche at this point.
Dragons are Aspects - pieces- of Akatosh, the Dragon God of Time. Alduin is also an Aspect of Akatosh in the role of a destroyer, and since he is also the Firstborn of Akatosh, he is also his own father. If you did a double-take after reading that sentence, trust me when I say that is only the start of the madness that is Akatosh and his many, many split personalities. The whole topic of Akatosh and how utterly broken and batshit insane that particular god is should be the subject of an entire video.
It wouldn't surprise me if the mortal Dragonborn's psyche starts to buckle under the strain of having absorbed the immortal souls and power of so many Dovah. Add in a Dovah's inborn will to dominate and accumulate more power, and you've got a ticking time bomb in demigod form.
And you thought Akatosh is insane?
Enter Lorkhan ...
''and so The first Dragonborn meets The Last Dragonborn in the summit of Apocrypha'' - Miraak
*Skyrim theme starts playing*
Oh-oh... I'll be replaying Skyrim again after watching this, aren't I?
vote for sheogorath and cheese for everyone
cheese please?
Cheese! Also, fun fact - the Sheogorath you meet in Skyrim is *probably* the player from Oblivion.
~ Tim
i agree
yay cheese!!!!
The Dawnguard and Dragonborn dlcs seem to explain the doom driven, and rise to power destiny that the Dragonborn is carving out as we play the game. By saving Solsthieim from Miirack, the Dragonborn has to make a deal with a daedric prince. Pretty much sealing the Dragonborn's fate, unless you're a vampire lord. Which again is another way of being doomed. In order to keep from dying as all mortals do, the Dragonborn sacrifices his, or her mortality. Therefore beating Hermaus Mora at his own game, and ensuring that he or she can still be around to keep Tameriel safe.
Well that's how I play the game. My Dragonborn is a good person, who understands the sometimes sacrifices have to be made for the greater good. She didn't become a vampire lord out of lust for power and domination. She did it to stop a tyrant, and to forever be Tameriel's protector even if it's from the shadows.
First, Hermaeus Mora or any Daedra can't do shit if Akatosh himself decides to claim Dovahkiin's soul since they are his reincarnation. Tiber Septim became Talos, not because of his achievements but being born as Dragonborn, his birthright made them eligible to become God with blessings of Akatosh and become a shining example of Humanity's bravery in Nirn. It doesn't matter what you become. Akatosh is God of Time, he will decide and carve Dragonborn's destiny. If he wanted to claim Dovahkiin's soul, no one, I mean, not even the Daedra's will dare to stop him.
"You seek power"
Me, Currently in charge of like every faction: I don't know what you are talking about
I've always wondered since we don't actually see the jarls moot for the next High King that there's a possibility that Bethesda will write in the Dragonborn as canon. We know nothing about TES6 but there's so many possible paths for your character it will be extremely hard to reference him/her without a massive retcon.
I think joining every guild and faction becoming leader is all canon Bc Of the achievements of the game are canon so they require to be leader of this by finishing this quest and doing that so technically in canon the Dragonborn is leader of companions TG DB etc thought which isn’t canon is which side you pick in the civil war or joining the dawngaurd/ vampires more than likely the war is still on and the Dragonborn more than likely became a vampire since Bethesda obviously heavily pushed that quest line over the DG but you never know
I would find it pretty odd for the DB to not try for the throne of the Empire via being crowned King of Skyrim. It is a) something he alone can claim as a birth right, and b) something inherent to dragon is to rule over others.
5:03 So you admit Talos is a Divine. I always knew I liked you Tim
Bethesda should release a DLC where the Dragon born conquerors tamriel
Gwen Blagdon No they shouldn't
Free the monkey67 yeah they should the empire is crumbling and i fear only the dovahkin can restore it to its former glory
Gwen Blagdon well the game is 6 years old now so I don't think that will happen
Skyrim has been out since 2011, they won't release a DLC like that, but i like the way you think. All Emperors of Cyrodiil had the Dragon Blood in their veins, so it would make sense for the Dragonborn to become the Emperor, sadly you can't. But there is a mod fior it :).
Norman Hampton WORLD DOMINATION 😆🔥
I am not driven for power... Only sweet rolls
That’s a neat theory, I like it and it makes sense if you look at the Dragonborn as dova. Kinda scary thinking about it.
Even more so, the only plot line where at the end you don't inevitably take some sort of control is the main quest line. But only if you choose to spare Paarthurnax and in doing so presumably deciding to follow the way of the voice as he has. The game quite literally gives you the ability to decide if the dragon born succumbs to the supposed "doom" of their instincts, defeats Paarthurnax and takes dominion over the Blades or chooses to overcome said instincts and live (relatively) peacefully. All this without directly explaining it to the player and yet the decision as to weather or not to kill him is always an interesting prospect. I personally choose to let him live but there's always that question in the back of my mind of "Maybe I should have?" I never really got why the writers of the game would opt to put such a choice in the game until now. I had just passed it off as a way of generating further conflicts of interest but it seemed somewhat out of place had that been the only motivation. Bethesda usually makes very purposeful decisions in their writing and I'm happy to see that this continues to be the case.
The Dragon Born’s personal journey is quite fascinating. For me, he was a petty smuggler who got caught trying to cross the boarder. I generally crafted him as a friendly and charitable person, just someone trying to get by. Yet he became the leader of the Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, and Skyrim’s vampires. During the civil war he sided with the Storm Cloaks as he opposed the Thalmor and thought the Empire had become nothing more than their pawns. From the shadows he ruled Skyrim.
A fool sides with the storm cloaks
@@40rollsonly Nah, the choices are either racist or pussies. So pick your poison😂👍
Thinking about it, it does seem very easy for the dovahkin to not only become thane of every hold, but also leader of every guild, and owner of several daedric artefacts.
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I've been interested to know the full significance of a dragonborn deciding to become a vampire lord and/or reading the Black Books.
On the one hand, this makes him scarcely indistinguishable from a god. Vampires already can't die of old age, poison, or disease, and Valerica shows us that they can't starve or die of thirst. Already he has the soul of dozens of Akatosh fragments rolled into one, and power that contended evenly with Alduin.
That being said, this should have massive consequences for himself and the whole of the TES verse. Dealing with daedra and their creations can give him powers he would never achieve otherwise, but he would have to bind himself to something even more sinister than dragonhood, putting his mind in even greater danger.
Amazing video. I would love it if you can cover CHIM! It's like the Elder Scrolls equivalent of escaping the Matrix.
I looooove the dragon born. One of the coolest ideas in fantasy. I always imagined the dragon born is considered a hero as long as there’s a enemy that directly threatens things. But once there all gone you still have the need to dominate and gain power. Either they begin to fear you or you turn your attention to them. Your very being can change time and reality basically born to change or destroy.
Miraak takes that desire for power to a truly insane level. You can make it out in the mantra his 'worshippers' chant as they work on his sites.
"And when the world shall listen
And when the world shall see
And when the world remembers
That world shall cease to be"
He wants to disrupt the universe itself by waking the godhead. The dream will preserve itself and begin a new dream, rewriting the very basis of reality. His name resonating so deeply the godhead, and by extension, the universe remembers him, he will take Akatosh's place.
A video on the best character in the elder scrolls universe.... SHEOGORATH!
I dont even play skyrim, yet i still find the types of videos so facinating
Elder Scrolls lore is about the most fascinating in the world. Play it!
~ Tim
Spence Muly you have not lived life if u have not played skyrim~ quote me on that
I love your videos man, I hope i get to see more great content from you!
ALL HAIL MISHKA!!!
KAWWWWWW!
Because the Dragonborn becomes the knowledge and essence he/she gains
I wonder if the Dragonborn could become immortal through enough effort.
Perhaps, Miraak lived for thousands of years
By far one of the best episodes you have ever done. Just don’t forget, sometimes we want to see you and Mishka!
You will next episode! And the next. I've got a HTTYD video for this Saturday and then an Avatar one for next week. Just writing the script now.
~ Tim
3:08 so how does a dragon doing literally anything else go? I imagine it like this "eggs, milk, bread, oh, I've destroyed another nation, oops."
Dragons don't have to talk in Dovahzul, though.
Another topic I would love to see discussed, aside from CHIM, is the disappearance of the Dwemer. Keep up the outstanding videos!
Explained: Dwemer fused with Numidium and became its golden skin, Kagrenac fused his people with the big stompy Robot. We can confirm that this is the outcome as Arniel Gane binds himself to the nearest remnant of Lorkhan (the Dragonborn as a Shezarrine/Aspect of Lorkhan) and becomes a shade.
They remind me of Eliatropes from Wakfu
Menthe My little brother loves that show
I'm surprised to hear that show mentioned here.
The english dub is awful but the lore is interesting and thought provoking.
To me the lore implications of Dragonrend, and the thing that Alduin says to Paarthunaax when you fight Alduin on The Throat of The World, to me it implies that some dragons, maybe even Paarthunaax, took Dragonrend into them by helping humans to create it. In taking that shout in, would a dragon not become mortal?
Look at Miraak, the supposed first Dragonborn. He almost purely a dragon, except in body. Perhaps the very creation of the words mortal, finite, and temporary in the Dov's language caused some of them to take on mortal forms without realizing it.
Taking on aspects of the Dragon as you absorb their soul reminds me of Highlander and how Duncan underwent the dark quickening and the underlying theme of sharing the evil to withstand it hence no man are meant to be alone.
I'm curious if Alduin saved the last dragonborn from execution in Helgen knowingly, or by coincidence. What do you think?
I think that since Alduin flew from the time wound atop the Throat of the World depending on his angle Helgen may have just been the first village he saw and attacked to announce himself.
The Vampire Druid dragons can probably sense each other and he may have been confused too.
@@zerotodona1495 I may be late but I have this theory that Alduin did save the Dragonborn maybe because he believes he was destined to kill the Dragonborn himself so he won't allow the Dragonborn being killed by a mere headsman.
I'm very late but i think he sensed dragonborn being there but didn't know who it was so he tried to kill everyone but by mere luck or destiny dragonborn didn't die
ah, its just so cool to think about this
The Last Dragonborn is a Prisoner Hero, and that carries tremendous implications about their interaction with fate, which is to say, doom, and Lorkhan literally means Doom Drum and it's pretty heavily implied that the Last Dragonborn is Shezarrine, incarnate of LHKAN (who is Shor and Lorkhan and Shezarr just as AKHAT is Akatosh and Auri-El and Alduin). These seem to be linked; it can be solidly argued that all Prisoner Heroes are all Shezarrine.
The Prisoner Hero is almost completely unbound (literally the first quest in Skyrim is titled Unbound) from fate. The write the Elder Scrolls rather than have their fates dictated by them. They are possibility incarnate.
The one doom Prisoner Heroes are inviolably subject to is that once their Event is finished, their story is finished and the Dreamer will promptly write them out of the narrative. While anyone can Walk the Ways and become a god, which is to say, achieve permanence, becoming unforgettable to the Dreamer, an element that will always recur, always be relevant... the Prisoner can't. Their doom is to be temporary, to die or go Missing (you know, like Shezarr). Seriously, have you ever heard of the Eternal Champion outside of his Event (the Simulacrum)? Of course not, because Prisoner. Similarly with the Nerevarine's expidition to Akavir, literally sailing to the future and severing himself from the now, that which is relevant.
There is one escape clause. The Prisoner can sacrifice their identity as the Prisoner in favour of another. The Hero of Kvatch Walked the Steps of the Dead for two madmen, Sheogorath and Pelinal. And the Last Dragonborn is Ysmir, Talos; the Thalmor have failed.
This is the Last Dragonborn's future: being Talos, not himself.
And that's why, for all that this video is insightful wrt the nature of Dragon psychology (though you could have done better by emphasizing AKHAT as the I AM to Anui-El's IS, Sithis' IS NOT, and LHKAN's I AM NOT), as regards the Last Dragonborn, it's completely irrelevant, because now so is he. Also, you completely missed the point of Tsun's line.
It almost seems like one of the greatest patterns in philosophy when it comes to how cultures evolve. Those that have an extreme hatred of something to the point of wanting to destroy it, eventually become the very thing they wish to destroy. It happened with the Russians during the October Revolution in their quest to overthrow their oppressors, the French during their own revolution, happened in a way with the US when they invaded foreign nations in the attempt to stop an imperialistic communistic regime's spread, and it is happening now with conservative groups attempting to preserve their own freedoms by forcing destructive laws on those they disagree with.
but are dragonborns mortal we never seen another who aged. like miraak he is the only other we see in person unlike Tiber septim we never seen another they dont have the blood of a dragon but the soul, and as the soul is immortal does that mean their body is too. or just the soul so they can be revived if the need arises unlike miraak who the dragoborn absorbed. is it truely a mortal? or a half god like the dragons are or what? just a ancient spirit forced into a mortal body..
if you almost never use your shouts, then you don't get corrupted, right?(i never use them, i usually just use spells or weapons, although i do learn shouts and take in souls)
That *would* be the theory. A dragonborn is innately drawn to power, but not using shouts would help prevent corruption. Tiber Septim wouldn't have used that many shouts, as he didn't have the dragons or the tutelage to learn all that much of the Voice, but he still went on to become history's greatest conqueror. Not using the Voice though, as you said, would prevent, I think, becoming like Miraak, or a tyrant. They wouldn't lose their humanity.
~ Tim
well, i thank you for replying to this, because i was actually kind of curious to what your idea on my comment was.
Brenden Nauman nah your still taking in the words which become a part of who you are and it's the same with the souls
yes, but you aren't corrupted to the same degree as with most dragons, or other dragon-born
There is a theory out there presented quite beautifully that the Dragonborn is actually Shor/Lorkan/Talos and an incarnation of him. A youtuber gave some convincing evidence towards this and it made a lot of sense. I personally am a subscriber to that theory and opened my eyes to a new level of understanding in terms of the nature of the Dragonborn. The 3 main points supporting this theory include:
1) The ghost (at the in at Old Hroldan) that calls you Hjalti (Talos/Tiber Septim's birth name), thinking you are tiber septim (who is a shezarine to shor) (considering that he was also dragonborn and implying that you are actually Tiber septim or Hjalti)
2)That the reason why Shor is not present in Shor's hall in Sovengarde is because, you are Shor. And If the heroes of sovengarde were prevented from fighting Alduin by the order of Shor, yet when the dragonborn calls on them to fight Alduin they obey.
3) During your initiation as Dragonborn, the Greybeards call you Ysmir, the same name given to Tiber Septim who (once again) is a shezzarine to Shor.
Please share your thoughts and research on this theory. Its one of my fave.
Just found the video of the youtuber, his name is Roshank Redemption. please check his video
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It's been a theory floating around for a while, that the Dragonborn is contuing a conflict that began since time was first concieved. That Aka-tusk was a god with two personalities, each one determined to kill the other. So much so that they split to become Akatosh and Lorkhan, both historically being gods trying to kill each other in a never ending battle for dominance, and the final battle between the Last Dragonborn and Alduin is a continuation of that insane god's twin personalities trying to kill each other.
@@Lightscribe225 this is a really cool theory and it somewhat makes sense. Please let me know the link where i can find the details about this.
TIM! YOU FORGOT THE H IN DOVAHKIIN IN THE TITLE! THAT'S A BAD OMEN, MISHKA WILL ENSLAVE US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OoOoOo, He edited the title, he must've seen my amazing comment.
I’ve always loved the idea that it’s inevitable that the Dragonborn you play as in Skyrim would become a tyrant. I had hoped ES6 might explore it but that doesn’t seem to be the case... I’m working on a fanfic wherein that happens and the son of Whiterun’s blacksmith, Adrienne, must stop him with weapons the Dragonborn crafted and enchanted himself.
What if the Dragonborn is meant to kill and absorb every dragon in order to resurrect Akatosh.
I think an interesting plot for ES6 could be taking down the last dragonborn. Dawngaurd give an easy excuse for them to still be alive. I doubt anyone will see this comment but thoughts?
Fascinating theory, though see comments below about the word 'doom'.
I can't speak for EVERY Dragonborn, but one of the first things mine did after learning his destiny was make his way, not to High Hrothgar, but to Winterhold, where he became Arch-Mage of the College.
My first Dragonborn, an Imperial mage who worshipped Talos and Dibella, had no place in the Civil War (aside from killing every Thalmor patrol he saw). The Stormcloaks did not appeal to him because they hated him simply for who he was and what he could do, and the Empire had succumbed to the Thalmor's will in quelling the worship of his and his family's patron Divine. So as soon as he was Thane of Whiterun, the Dovahkiin chose instead to focus on mastering the arcane arts, and quenching his thirst for knowledge and power that way. Eventually, at the behest of Meridia, he came to specialize in Destruction and Restoration spells that would blast the undead back to rest.
He sees himself not as a conqueror, but as a preserver of the natural order of life and death, for humanity AND for the Dovah. The only exception was Paarthurnax, whom the Dovahkiin owed a personal favor for helping him protect Nirn from the World-Eater.
His hunger for power exists, but it's largely sated by the souls of dragons, the secrets of Aetherius, and the Words of Power. He seeks no political power, because then you have to run things and he'd rather run around killing Draugr and Dragon Priests.
Why is it always a British dude?
can we talk about if it's even possible for the Kahjiit and Argonian races to actually be Dragonborn? is having the dragon blood a gift Akatosh can just willingly give out to anyone? or did he only ever give it to one person specifically and that person's bloodline is what carries the dragon blood?
It is, From Birth he is chosen by Akotosh. Destiny doesn’t discriminate, if the Gods choose a champion they aren’t in much of a place to argue.
Proof: Dragonborns are way different than those who have dragon blood. As dragonborns are born from inserting a shard of akatosh (dragon soul) into a body of a mortal. The dragon soul however, can transfer into different other bodies after death. If the drahon soul could have the ability to do that.
If I recall Tolkien used 'Doomed' in a more archaic sense of the word, to mean 'Fated', I'd assume the devs were lifting language from this, although there's a definite ambiguity to it in either case, and you raise some excellent points!
Is the voice of the emperor a dragon shout that Imperials can do that's what I'm thinking
Wait... what if Talos ... is the culmination of all dragonborn souls... we consume Miraak's soul at the end of the DLC. so what if time is still broken and Hermaous tasks us with consuming all the dragonborn souls throughout time... then we would a send to godhead probably ... like that's alot of souls that were created by Akatosh would we not be Akatosh himself if we travel through time and consume the fractured soul of him? (in the form of his children) just a thought ... I mean We could be doomed to fight Alduin for eternity ... as the aspect of Akatosh continually fighting the end of time ... and out pure opposite... wow I need a life ...
Funny how I was playing Skyrim when I saw this video
dragon rampage same
I dont even want to know how dragonblood got into humans...........
.....that be one hack of a night tho
UltraSmurf It was actually bestowed upon mortals during the Dragon age, then some wibbity wackety magical shitterary happened. It became a dormant gene of a very, very few bloodlines.
And applied at random to certain others. There's some reason to believe that the 'dragon blood' of the Septim line is a different kind of dragonborn than the dragonborn we play in Skyrim. Yes, Tiber Septim (one of him, anyway, it's complicated) was dragonborn the same way our player character is, but the descendants of St. Alessia who became the Septim bloodline are at least implied to be a different sort. I'd have to do more research into the lore to get specifics.
Tango down. Joke failed
That endless water tho...
The quote you provide at 13:37 was said by Arngeir. I don't mean to nitpick.
The Dragonborn is an Isekai protagonist that has been transported into the Elder Scrolls universe. Prove me wrong! I dare you!
pretty much
Fus Roh Dah
Jan Krähe I just got thrown across the room
Jan Krähe *Fus Ro Dah
Force balance push!
You fools! Your blasphemous missuse of the voice brings doom to you and all Tamriel!
Laas Yah Nir!
Imagine if the Dragonborn goes wild with power and starts becoming a world menace, and so the Nevaderine (might’ve misspelled) has to come back from Akavir and face the Dragonborn? That would be ballers
OMG u have to do a Skyrim lore series plz plus love this channel keep up the good work
Everybody else: "omg! what does it mean?"
People that read Tolkien: "It means Fate-Driven. Next Question."
What does Tolkien have to do with the Elder Scrolls? Interpreting the meaning of terms in one universe based on the word of a man who made an entirely separate world is like saying Goku is weak because One Punch Man exists. The two belong to completely different settings, you can't use one to examine the other
@@TheNotoriousLARGE
It has nothing to do with franchises, it's the literary definition of the word...
Because if you read Tolkien you are very familiar with the word "doom" associated with destiny and fate instead of destruction.
"The Doom of Men"
@@ruicorreia6373 Doom
Noun
"Death, destruction, or some other terrible fate"
Verb
"Condemn to certain death or destruction"
"Cause to have an unfortunate and inescapable outcome"
It doesn't matter what Tolkien meant in his own writing, because this isn't his writing, it's someone else's. Different writers, different intentions
@@TheNotoriousLARGE go read merriam-webster's definition instead of copy-pasting the first thing Google tells you. Doom is always associated with a predestined and or fated outcome.
It's an unhappy destiny, a judgment that in literature is associated with something predetermined. Again, it has nothing to do with how Tolkien decided to use the word, *it is* how the word is used!
@@ruicorreia6373 Right, because everybody uses the word the exact same way for all time. Words can have more than one meaning, and meanings change over time. Tolkien was great, but he's not the end-all-be-all of definitions
I personally think the hearthfire dlc answers your question "does the dragonborn succumb to his or her nature", you can settle down have kids and build a house. Just my opinion
I did some theorising the other day, turns out, no matter how many Daedra you pledge yourself too, no matter how powerful, when the Dragonborn dies… their soul goes back to Akatosh.
Wait, you think Tiber Septim was Talos? Was Ysmir Wuthard? False! Tiber Septim yes was a dragon born but not Talos. Ysmir Wuthard was a nord who became so powerful so respected was gifted... godlyhood.
When I watch these Videos I Feel Like I'm Listening to an AudioBook
Gooddammit Nerds!!! Did you or read LOTR and ASOIAF?
Doom in old English means fate or fateful. It is not negative or positive it is just unavoidable destiny. Whether good or bad
So basically bring Dragonborn basically mean your a god ?
More like a demigod. Like Hercules…having god-like traits, but not an actual god.
demi in vanilla, Literal God in modded gaemplay or if you just use console commands alot
I can't help myself but thinking of quantic physics (the little that I understand about it) when I think of what a dragonborn would feel.
(Forgive my English, it's not my mother tongue)
Well... In order not to completely massacre an explanation about (a small fraction of what) quantic physic is about, I will keep it very simple... and if you're qualified to correct me, please do so!
Many greatly, greatly QUALIFIED people have helped explaining how time and space can stretch: with speed for instance, = example why it is impossible to program a clock in a moving train with a clock in the waiting station, yet at the time when you are looking at the clock inside the train if you are in it too, and on the station if you are waiting still, both times are right at the same time even if you had a way to compare them on the spot (to the slightest micro micro mirco seconds) they are not.
Many great and qualified people have helped to understand the importance of perception: if you are on a boat and drop a ball from the top of the... stick with the flag while the boat is moving from point A to point B: it falls down in a straight line at the bottom. If someone looks at you from the beach when you're dropping that ball, they could trace the curve the ball makes as it falls somewhere from point A to point B, while still landing at the bottom of the stick. If you are on the boat and say “it's a straight line”, or if you are off the boat watching it move and say “if I calculate, it's a curve”, both statements are true at the same time.
Same thing if you look at someone walking 10 steps on a moving boat. To you: this person moved forward 10 steps + the distance the boat has traveled. If you are on the boat with that same person, they only moved 10 steps and that's true: both statements are true at the same time.
That's not... magic, it's just facts. And many of what quantic physics has to show is just mostly invisible to the human eyes, unless we are a bit curious at times and wonder about these things. You would need to know astronomy and chemistry to literally see how much of a massive difference that makes in a much bigger or smaller scale, as opposed to the linear way we tend to see things everyday.
Now, let's throw some epicness in there, and talk about Time in Skyrim for instance:
Is time rigid? Or can you “make it move”? Well that depends: an hour is an hour, a day is a day: as a mortal, you can only deal with the time that you are given. In my opinion, the amount of time you are given can change the way you see things and live your life, ex: if you know you might live about 60 years, your choices and the way you live your life would drastically change than if you had known you could live thousands of years. This could give us an insight at how arrogant High Elves are, and how superior they think they are compared to those brutal and passionate little humans (… and the other elves too... I know but lets put them aside for the sake of my weird theory X'D). We could also ask ourselves how our perception of life and our perception of others would change if we went from being a human to being a Vampire... To me, a form of insignificance of “little-er lives” could be hard to shake off...
and entitlement and a dangerous sense of superiority could ensue.
Anyways: humans are mortal, and this influences their points of view. Dragons are immortal. When you are immortal, do you really feel the rigidity of time that much? Well, not only are they immortal but they are divinities in a way too: part of the world of the living and beyond. They are not the strongest force of nature, they are created after all by the god of Time Akatosh, but their dad is pretty cool and allows them to borrow Time a bit. Dragons are so powerful that they are granted the ability to control things by naming them. And when they name Time, they can stretch it a bit if they want to (one shout allows you to do that). They are not submitted to that rigidity, unlike mortals: they can't do whataver they want, but what they can do is enough to grant them a very different point of view over the significance of life and everything else: they belong to a different scale in this world, unlike people. Could this mean that the enormities that can be revealed to us about the rules of nature, time and space are not that incredible to them?
If time was a ruler, days being days, rigid to little things like us, but not that much for dragons, that could explain what happened to Alduin. To mortals, Alduin disappeared at time A, and reappeared at time Z: it's a looong time. But for Alduin who came through a breach in time and space (which ALSO move), the ruler bends like a ribbon until time A and Z joined and a gate happens. In my opinion (correct me if you got more elements than I do, if Alduin mentions having waited for a long time for instance), but that could have been a very short trip for Alduin. After disappearing, he just reappeared, flew back down the throat of the world and attacked Helgen.
Was his disappearance long? Was it short? Well, both. It depends on your point of view.
Now if what I say is not too random: can you imagine being given both points of view at the same time, at all time?
To me, that is all the complexity of being a dragon born in a nutshell, and it would come with a lot of struggles... Arrogance AND guilt? Loneliness AND difficulty to accept their inexplicable difference (before understanding they are dragonborn)? Desiring power AND guessing an incredible scale and being afraid of it? Thinking about the insignificance of life AND having humility and trying to save it?
This would depend on the personality of the dragonborn of course, and how interestingly dangerous a DB could be... you could choose to be a hero who went through a massive existential crisis after trying to figure out how to be both things in peace, or you could be someone a little more like Miraak? Or you're a chilled player and your character doesn't give a s*t ^^
I personally very much love how much of an existential crisis this could be (for my character for instance), and imagining their lives before getting to skyrim, I think of someone with a big ass void inside that they had tried to fill in many ways in vain. Someone who struggled with self-acceptance without knowing why. I find this psychological struggle so interesting to dive in, and actually relatable that way.
Maybe I also need to get a life :-)
Cheerio!
Video: This doesnt justify killing someone you disagree with, as many of us have done
Me: Im a good guy, ive never really done tha... *remembers Nazeem*
Also me: No, no... hes right
The whole concept of absorbing their memories reminded me of the first Prototype, iirc you progress the story by absorbing more people, thus gaining more memories.
Loved that: "Paarthurnax, the badass". Perfect. I don't think I've met a wiser Being in all of Skyrim. He should be the King of Skyrim, were it not for his instinctive difficulty dealing with power. Too bad.
AkaTusk ? Akatosh -- "Also known as the ol' shorn hippy"
Doom Driven -- Enactor, Embodiment of change. That of a Padomaic influence. (Anu representing stasis, Elves dig it.) Are conquerors through out history all ultimately a bad influence ? Lots to debate there.
Alduin/Akatosh two aspects of the same being ? Akatosh time itself Alduin the end of a kalpa ? A time ender. Change to a new age - Padomaic in nature, no ? Doom Drum Most aspects of order in Nirn are quite out of order when you enter the picture in Skyrim. The towers have fallen. But you state "I like this age.." & stop or postpone the destruction of the present kalpa. Two aspects of Doom colliding. One conqueror wins, one is defeated. "You have saved this land & our very souls" But is this unambiguously a positive action ? Also debatable. (Press New Game to contemplate Manifest Metaphors & "Eating our true faces in amnesia" now)
All dragonborns want domination and power.
That's why i know whenever I play dragonborn I attain positions of political power. Aka being a legate and a thane of 9 holds.
If I could be jarl or high king I would.
It’s never wildly talked about, but Jurgen Windcaller was Dragonborn. He had a Dragon’s Soul, which meant he was the first documented Dragonborn to reject his inborn nature. Jurgen represents the extreme right mentality of the Dragonborn, to be humble to a fault and choose absence of control over complete control, to live in harmony with the world and to only seek the power that worships the Gods. Miraak is on the opposite side of the spectrum, he’s woefully prideful as he tries to always one up the player, and craves power and dominion over all of Solstheim. He seeks to be the ruling nature and seeks power selfishly to be worshipped like in the merethic era. The player has 2 solid examples of what taking the two extreme paths will potentially lead to, and neither without flaws. Jurgen may have lived a pure and religiously fulfilling life, but he also missed out on much of what others consider be worth living for. Women, children, wealth, and fame. These are things the Nords value, and rejecting them may have left room for regrets in Jurgen’s head. Then you have Miraak who’s flaws are far more extrinsic than intrinsic. Living for outside influences, reinforces the belief that only these things can bring value to someone and everything else is secondary, creating the superiority complex. Also proven with Jurgen, a Dragonborn isn’t removed from their designated resting places when they die. Meaning, if your Nord you go to Soverngard, but if you worship a Daedra, your soul is forfeited. All the power in the world can’t prevent consequence. Miraak sold his soul just so he could be trapped in Apocrypha, and the later killed again! Most importantly it would seem that regardless of which way you live in Skyrim the Dragonborn faces the same problem, isolation. Dragonborn embody the saying” It’s lonely at the top.” One day you’ll be so powerful and influential that all things that once seemed important will no longer be there. In the end your fate is sealed, and no matter what you choose one day you will meet the cold embrace of death. So will you try Jurgan’s path, Miraak’s, or something in between? The choice is yours, but remember what a curtain dragon said:
“ Those who try to hasten the end, may delay it. Those who work to delay the end, may bring it closer.”
-🐉 Paarthurnax
The dragonborn becomes a vampire lord, conquers the sun, all the other races die and he goes insane from hunger and bloodthirst ruling over an empty and ruined world
My Dragonborn dominance presents itself via my desire to dominate my library by collecting every book in Skyrim, like Lusty Argonian Maid 2, and to dominate by having Tamriel’s most interesting toy box with Auriel’s Bow laying over Molag Bal’s mace. I use Mephala’s sword as a feather duster, Clavicus Vile’s masque to negotiate better prices to sell my potatoes and Mehrune’s Davon’s razor to cut open letters and clean the undersides of my nails.
hello future me channel:sais dragonborn is mortal for over 9000 times
me the player:if im the last dragonborn ill be the immortal one by becoming the vampire,and thus dragon blood will never dissapear from mankind.
how does he fail to mention this,honestly blows my mind,i get it molag bal is the bastard above all bastards,but becoming vampire doesn't mean i wonna serve the bastard,i jsut want immortality,i mean if i die as a vampire true my soul goes to him,but tbh i think that trying to keep dragon blood within humanity is a greater cause than that.
When you said "Miraak was enslaving dragons", while talking about dragon rend, I asked myself something.
"Miraak enslaved dragons, because his nature was changed and twisted. But he himself, by his NATURE, ia partially a dragon too. So did he also enslave his inner dragon too?"
And I came to think about this and thought: "Holy shit, yes. Yes he did."
In the game we can actuslly see how his journey is ending and why. He served Mora, to get more and more knowledge... but in the end he just SERVED. He himself was a slave, but he was WILLINGLY serving Mora. And in the end, the last dragonborn is defeating Miraak... but it is Mora who killes Miraak right after, because Mora DOESN'T NEED HIM ANYMORE!
So miraak was serving the dragons, until he enslaved and consumed them in the end. Mora was helping Miraak... but only to enslave and consume him in the end.
Miraak got exactly what he himself did to the dragons.
You make me want to give in to my nature
So... If i make my dragoborn immortal, like by becoming a vampire lord, my destiny is godhood, baldur's gate evil ending style?
Interesting...
This makes me really want to think harder about what shouts I choose to learn when I'm playing Skyrim, and how many factions I become a leader of! Very, VERY interesting lore, my dude. Opens some interesting RP options as well! Great vid as well, this is my first time seeing one of yours, and my interest is piqued!
its about drive its about power
I think this last Dragonborn’s unique role is to play the judge, jury and executioner of all dragons. This includes Alduin and even Paarthunax plus the others you encounter.
Mirak is a perfect sight of what’s to come to the dragon born
First off, it was not Paarthurnax that stated Dragonrend as being "Evil;" he only said he couldn't know it, because it's unknowable to immortal dragons. It was actually called that by Arngeir, who was potentailly biased against it, since Dragonrend could *only* be used as a tool of war, which goes against the Way of the Voice, which teaches that war is the least important use of it. The idea of "becoming more like the shout" is a bit odd as well; like, how does knowing Yol (fire) change your personality? Or Fus (Force)? Or the majority of the other shouts? I always took this explanation as reinforcing that you gaining an innate knowledge of the word (or words). It's like the difference between knowing what is fire, and knowing what fire is on a fundamental level. Second, as far as I'm aware, there is nothing saying that Miraak used Dragonrend at all, or even knew the words; it was invented by ancient nords, potentially after Miraak was taken by old Herma Mora, and then lost to time because there was little need for it without Alduin, since lesser dragons could be defeated without it and it had no other use beyond fighting dragons. I doubt he would try and learn it, either, since Bend Will has the same effect on non-Alduin dragons, but better.
And if simply using shouts corrupts the user, why aren't the Greybeards, who use shouts all the time, corrupted in the same way? I would argue that using Shouts isn't the corrupting factor, but rather the ease with which the dragonborn can learn them; they may become prideful over the ease at which they get this great power, and it corrupts them if left unchecked. This is why the Greybeards don't just teach you shouts beyond a few words, and instead send you to where the words are located; to make you have to *work* for it in some way, and to help you not become corrupted by the ease of your path to power. Had the Blades not make you have questions about Dragonrend, you probably wouldn't have even been sent to Paarthurnax until they deemed you ready; or at least, not a threat to their dragon master.
As for Dragonrend, if anything, you would become *less* susceptible to succumbing to your draconic nature by learning Dragonrend. The shout itself is Joor Zah Frul: "Mortal", "Temporary", and "Finite". As dragonborn, you have the same abilities as dragons do... but you are Mortal. You are Temporary. You are Finite. This is why you don't have to gain the knowledge to use the shout by consuming a dragon soul or have the knowledge gifted to you; you already have innate knowledge of the shout, because you already *are* the shout; becoming more like the shout is to become less like the dragons. This is also why Dragons cannot learn Dragonrend, because they are immortal, they are eternal; simply put, They Are. To be mortal, to know what it means to be mortal on a fundamental level as is required for using any shout, is impossible for them.
Also, I would agree that the Dragonborn becoming arrogant or whatever as a fight against their inborn nature as being an easier one, since their mortal half would balance it out. If anything, I'd say it's simply potentially more easy for the scales to be tipped one way or the other; they could become arrogant give in to their draconic nature, seeking to be the leader at all times because they have this great power, or they could become humble and realize that not everyone has this power, so he should wield it on behalf of those who can't. Yes, he may still have to fight against it, but not to the degree of Paarthurnax has to.
Of course, a much of this theory is based on a misunderstanding of what Tsun and also Paarthurnax mean when they call you Doom-Driven (the badass dragon calls you that after you return with the Elder Scroll, saying that there is no doubt that you are Doom-Driven, which even further suggests that Doom-driven isn't tied to TLD's being Dragonborn), so there's that; but others have explained that better than I could.
Seriously?? DOOM DRIVEN mean fated or destined Its the traditional way of the Skalds and bards of europe and Scandinavian.
Doom-driven simply means, to me, that the Dragonborn is driven to accomplish their goal, killing Alduin, by the doom of Nirn.
This was a very interesting video and your theory is so deeply thought out it's ridiculous lol I commend you for that and I think the path you took with it has a lot of merit. But I interpreted your springboard quote from Tsun about being doom-driven drastically different. I always took doom-driven in the sense that doom is what is DRIVING the character's actions not the destination. The impending doom of Nirn at the hands (jaws?) of Alduin drives your character to be the hero of the world and in that sense he is doom-driven. All in all though you've earned my sub with this and your catalog of Avatar and LOTR videos. Plus your cat. Actually it's just the cat. All hail mishka (sorry if I spelled that wrong)
I think a cool backstory for the Dragonborn would to make him like Alduin, where only they can truly kill each other for good.
Tsun saying to the Dragonborn "Doom Driven" was similar to the Doom Slayer. In short, a slayer becomes what they slays. The demons were fearful of the Doom Slayer, but also amazed by the Doom Slayer.
wait if the dragonborns soul or blood is but a shard of time does that explain why you load to our last save when you die, its an instinctive reaction from your soul in a last ditch attempt to save yourself so that you can keep acquiring power