Hey Grubby, not sure if you read these and I don't usually comment much but I do like your content so I thought I would add to the AI point at the start. I'm currently working professionally in the game's industry in the art department sector (though I know it's easier to take these claims with a grain of salt on the internet), but the issue with AI art isn't entirely on how the result looks. From a business standpoint it's intended purposes is entirely to save company costs on time and resource which is why it's so heavily pushed to be a great thing and the downsides of it is often neglected. Most creatives dislike it due to the unethical practices that go along with it with feeding engines millions of artist work without their permission as well as the fact that training it saves company cost (more speed in output, less artist needed), reducing the amount of jobs for artist impacting their livelihood and ability and time to create art. After all the world runs on money and if all artists are pushed out of their jobs, they will need to look elsewhere jobwise to be able to live. There's a lot more to it then this as well but these are usually the main points against it to keep the post not too long.
Thank you very much. I will also say that advocacy for AI art is a huge way to get socially sunk or rejected as well. I had to stop watching out of disgust.
I hate AI cause I'm a human supremacist but lets be real, 99% of creatives don't actually care about the ethical problems, it just sound better than "AI took my job" to zogbots.
@@TheRealCHIMShady Correct. Lost count of how many cases of professional artists tracing or copying other people's works. Obviously there's a very real complaint about AI "stealing" work to create something "new" but anyone being intellectually honest knows the vast majority of complaints are basically people upset that they're being replaced by the future. There's going to be people who innovate and use AI to prop themselves up as an artist, and there's going to be people like @luxzhvs who just fade into obscurity.
@@kl9686 I still find it insane how Wtii, who has been playing this map on and off for more than 2 years only is level 24-ish something, whilst Grubby here in just a month is already 73 LOL
When i was play today on mine Ryzen 7500f, rx 7700 xt in late game when stacks two waves, about 200 units on screen and all spells fps goes ~30fps 😲😂 but PC utilization was maybe about 50% and both CPU and GPU didnt hit 50% of power usage. Nice optimization.
has the classic mode always been a thing? wouldn't mind seeing a round of that, even tho i believe undead might be the strongest in an automated battle
hey, i realized they reused w2 music for hearthstone. when loading into battlegrounds you hear the song we heard. i wonder if there are others, i never played wc2 yeah there's another like 30 seconds after the first, reused as combat music in battlegrounds. i always thought hearthstone music was cool, now i'm learning it's a hundred years old lol
I am surprised the map maker doesnt know how to float buildings, i always changed that when using flying units as buildings , it looks so weird when they are stuck in the ground,.
Regarding the picture you showed of the game that looks different If you look at the back of the physical cases of the games where they ''show'' the game, you'll see that there are quite some differences too with the actual game that launched, it's not all about AI
No need. You have 3 possible starting positions, top, middle, bottom. You start by building a mine as soon as possible wherever you are. If you're top, build troops only first, and keep 100 gold before the beginning of your wave (when your clock reaches 0) to be able to build a hero for second wave. If you're middle, same exact thing as top. If you're bottom, you wait until you get 500 gold and build a hero and then only you add 1 troop before first wave (the timing is very precise, click hero as soon as you reach 500, you will have between 6 and 10 seconds to choose it). A hero takes 30 seconds to be built. It takes around 45 seconds to go one tier up and unlock new units. The only valid reasons I see to rush tier 2 (as soon as 3rd wave) is when you have druid of the claw (which allows a 20% damage boost to all your army with Roar), or when your opponent also rushes tiers. Usually, the second goldmine can be built as soon as you down the opponents' tower. But you can also invest on a goldmine sooner if you beat very easily your direct opponent wave, and damage the next one (helping your teammates by snowball effect, since their wave will be easier, etc.) That's it. You don't have to know a lot more to play, especially if you begin by random to familiarise yourself, and then play draft once you know the units and their effects 😉
Really think you are giving too much respect to ai art early in the video, it isnt just about if it looks 'good' or not but principle behind generated ai art and how regurgitated or fitting a generic trend it all becomes as it shoves it all into the blender. Give it a few years without being critiqued hard and regulated and it will put actual artists out of work for corporations wanting a quick buck, downgrading quality, agility to change things (cause most creators wont know how to make their own changes and just fight prompts) and a standardisation of styles where we just end up lacking fresh creative input and styles. Basically mass production that will just dilute interest or be similar to doom scrolling endless social media trends but without much way of new ones popping up. People might not talk about it the same way sure, but I'd be it would be indirectly talked about as we all complain about something else it causes similar to the trend of constant sequels and such with no new ips. Corporate trends will be more visible to complain at
If and when this happens, won't it automatically re-fuel the desire for real artists to share their work? All value of artists (including me) has to fit the zeitgeist. If AI replaces artists (or replace me, as a vtuber streamer ran by an AI may be a better entertainer than I am), I will not be a streamer anymore and need to find something else. But can I PHYSICALLY stop others from creating AI-fueled VTUBER streamers/youtubers? If I complain about it a lot?
@@FollowGrubby An interesting take, thanks for the reply I appreciate it :) I think the issue is in the copyright and blender of it all currently. Theres tons of areas in the industry we would all love more ai in tooling or various other bits, but we are being sold out on it by companies aiming for using our own work as fuel for ai then expecting us to still grunt work the parts we actually want more development to cut down time. To have that refueling too, it needs to be somewhat safe to post and train in anything so you dont instantly put yourself out of the job by an ai copying your work. Likewise it will destroy so many careers until that realisation comes that turns it around again, destroy lives all for profits in short term, and put off so much fresh blood from seeing the industry as a career option, heard a lot of younger people being worried about it already. I dont know the creator youtube etc side so well, but I can see lots of the issue coming in the vtuber models etc side, but I guess the comparison would be if one was ran entirely on your own warcraft 3 games and content from your whole past, in order to be a vtuber mimicing you. I think youd surely have some complaints, but also just feel rather sad about it seeing it happen. So the complaining and sadness is aimed at the corporations and governments to protect rights and copyright etc firstly, or things will die off before people outside even realise it was any issue, under the guise of companies saying it was only for research or whatever. For instance I believe I recall one case of one saying it would be "too hard" now to go back and credit every artist and ask permission... which is the issue, they just want to run away with it until that is the case, and its just sad. Sorry to keep ranting but it also makes referencing much harder, which has impacted my work at least, cause googling etc is soooo much ai that finding the realistic thing to lern from or use as example for a client is rough. And likewise being shown ai as a goal for say a realistic hairdo, that is literally impossible. It all causes problems. Yet we can appreciate that some of it looks good, it can inspire, or give some basis of colour or various other things that do help. Most common wish though, is that it then credits the artists I can then look to to find more like it, and they get whatever credit they deserve in it all. TLDR I just dont think its all clear cut as complaining or accepting, theres more in play, and being able to say yeah it doesnt look too bad, but we cant be doing this without it being cleaned up and paying the real people that should be. Nor accept it in false marketting, we didnt with cinemtatic trailers like watchdogs e3, and I would say this is worse (Also, would genuinely be interested in the impacts and interactions of it on the youtuber/streamer side of things, as I say I only know my own field mostly. I think theres weird stuff with it and youtube kids? Which when I saw we so weird and concerning, but so very different)
Yea idc much if disliking the use of ai in art and music is going to be a boomer take. And I realize that its going to be a massive issue going forward. I understand it helps cut costs. My issue is the ethics of it. The arts are intrinsically human and using ai for it removes that. I do think there is a difference between ai upscaling vs ai art though. And I think when you start off with something small like icons, ai upscaling is going to look bad and end up looking like ai art rather than just an increased resolution. At the end of the day we will likely have ai art with human tweaks on it until we reach the point where ai can just do all of it. I think that will be a sad point in humanity and I feel bad for all the artists, writers, and singers who won't exist rather than just got replaced directly. The biggest disliked part of these warcraft updates is the ai followed by hearing about the support and caving in on its eventuality. Unfortunately I am having fun with wc1 and wc2 looking better by comparison to what they were and I didnt realize it was as bad of an upscale before my purchase. The qol is great for ensuring I could even want to go back to playing them despite my childhood of playing them and how enjoyable it was, it wasn't a good feeling to go back and play the originals. I also think buying them shows blizzard we do want care in these games and to still play the old ones. So its torn. Blizzard is already in on ai and i'm stuck with the same defeatist attitude and i'm sick of this topic because the ethics on it are obvious. Make a good product and you won't need to cut the costs of artists. Fail to make a good product and have the company die out naturally. Its funny as i'm playing d2r as I type this and I hate the character model changes in that game more than the classic hd versions of wc1,2,3.
To all the people saying remasters are AI generated: it's actually impossible to consistently generate so many images without losing original style and encountering weird image generation errors. Most probably, these sprites are hand-drawn.
@@wodzu4085 really interested in how you can tell the difference. "impossible to consistently generate so many images without losing original style" its not impossible because the original game literally had all these images in the same style to begin with. Are you suggesting that was a fluke and no one can ever make that many again? You say it isnt Ai but then speak about image "generation" as if humans cant make or copy art styles constantly. Get outta here, you dont know what your talking about.
I dislike AI "art" in principle because computers don't have artistic intent. I wouldn't want to live in a world where every picture or animation is made by a computer and somebody simply picked out what they liked. In the same way I wouldn't want to listen to a chatbot impersonating Grubby while talking about a Direct Strike game. What is the POINT of looking at or listening to anything, if not to engage with the person or persons who designed it? Everybody knows "designed by committee" is an insulting term. That's how everything will be in the future if we don't cultivate an expectation that art is made by humans.
I've agreed on your A.I. art point for a while, its a faster cheaper option, so while its at the point where errors are common soon it will be extremely difficult to notice or get errors, especially at the speed of improvement we are at now, so with that in mind its use in the industry is a matter of time. with that being said, as a consumer If the game industry uses A.I. what justification do they have to price things the way they do? they may jump at the chance to save money by replacing their artists with 1-2 A.I. artists but how its it any way fair they can still charge you for like a 10 dollar digital portrait in hearthstone when i know now it was made in 5 minutes by someone with little to no artistic experience. So i understand its coming whether we like it or not but hopefully people understand how bad of an idea it is to pay full price while games are becoming cheaper and faster to make with A.I.
You can thank Phil Spencer for Blizzard RTS getting attention again. Bobby Kotick would have kept them in the cellar forever. Complaining about AI art is already a "boomer take". The corporations aren't going to stop using AI and no boycott is going to work so you may as well get used to it and stop complaining.
Hi grubby, there are a lot of reasons why the new Warcraft 3 2.0 patch is bad, and I'm honestly really disappointed in your bias reviews and your failure to point out basically any of these new major issues. I also hate that you are now taking a page from Blizzard's book and using AI for your own content. I may not be subbed to this TH-cam channel specifically, but you have truly disappointed a longtime fan.
(1) I have not done a review, I've shown a feature breakdown (2) frankly, you have 0 idea how many major or minor flaws I have pointed out that are now not in the game because I have not claimed credit for them (3) I am biased (4) I have failed to point out many issues, because I am not a 100-man hired QA squad. I am a full-time streamer and TH-camr that has spent as much time as humanly possible to give feedback on as many things as possible to make the game as good as possible, but I am _NOT_ a blizzard employee, I am not paid, and I do not think WC3 2.0 patch is unflawed. I believe your emotions and disappointments have made you make a rash statement in ignorance, and I accept, in the moment, that you needed to blame me for that, however misplaced.
@@FollowGrubby 1. Feature breakdown versus review - semantics... Us fans expect you, the popular content creator who apparently has blizzards ear, to speak up on behalf of us and urge them to not screw over their player base, which you have not done. 2. I'm not sure how anyone could prove or disprove that. However, I have pointed out more flaws that are now fixed than you have, you cannot prove I didn't. 3. Glad we can agree on something 4. This is just an excuse. The issues I am referring to are ones that basically everybody should run into on first launch. You aren't a qa for blizzard but apparently there are also issues that you helped identify to be fixed. Yet the issues like custom games being unsearchable, profiles being unviewable, menus being laggy, the initial update issues, etc, these all escaped you? I also like how you gloss over the AI content you are now using, in an effort to blame ME for being emotional. Your response was as disappointing as your most recent content.
@@BlackFrostmourni believe you're putting too much on grubby's shoulders.. sure, blizzard is aware of him and his critiques but grubby doesnt represent the whole fanbase. Nor are you giving any credit/blame to the people who actually made the game that's upset you so.. do you honestly believe the people who made it aren't aware of the issues? Things take time, and more importantly, money to fix. Maybe instead of lambasting a streamer you're supposedly a "longtime fan" of, direct your complaints, however righteous, in the right direction. Just because grubby has instigated change before doesnt mean that blizzard just does whatever he says. That's not how any company works..
@@E2O10 you make it sound like I've never critiqued Activision themselves. My complaints in my original comment here were about grubby and his response to the patch, not about the issues with the patch themselves. Again, if grubby "has blizzards ear" or "identified issues" he never claimed credit for getting fixed, AND the patch functions like it does currently, someone is either lying or a bad actor. It should at least merit a critique of Activision from grubby, but he won't do that because... Well I'm not sure why, that's why I left my original comment. Grubby also 1. Specifically didn't address the AI portion of my comment and 2. Didn't have the decency to give me more than one reply. If anything, this interaction makes me feel vindicated and has made me dislike grubby a lot more. He came off to me as defensive and not self-aware.
@@BlackFrostmourn i think if your liking/disliking of a person is based on their response to a patch in a video game it's not a healthy baseline for functional relationships - not that you have any relationship to grubby other than being a viewer, and as such shouldn't expect him to advocate on any matter on your behalf. Also, "Didn't have the decency to give me more than one reply." - this is an insane statement to make.. Yes, grubby sometimes replies to these comments but do you expect him to hang around all day arguing? Unlike us, he's streaming, when he's not, he's enjoying the rest of his life. Your own expectations of your relationship with him is your undoing. He doesn't owe you anything..
I guess you could say, when those archers die their existence has reached its climax.
4:12 nice flying hammer
After reading your comment I went back to look and it jump scared me
Hey Grubby, not sure if you read these and I don't usually comment much but I do like your content so I thought I would add to the AI point at the start. I'm currently working professionally in the game's industry in the art department sector (though I know it's easier to take these claims with a grain of salt on the internet), but the issue with AI art isn't entirely on how the result looks. From a business standpoint it's intended purposes is entirely to save company costs on time and resource which is why it's so heavily pushed to be a great thing and the downsides of it is often neglected. Most creatives dislike it due to the unethical practices that go along with it with feeding engines millions of artist work without their permission as well as the fact that training it saves company cost (more speed in output, less artist needed), reducing the amount of jobs for artist impacting their livelihood and ability and time to create art. After all the world runs on money and if all artists are pushed out of their jobs, they will need to look elsewhere jobwise to be able to live. There's a lot more to it then this as well but these are usually the main points against it to keep the post not too long.
Boring boomer whining
Get with the times geezer.
Thank you very much. I will also say that advocacy for AI art is a huge way to get socially sunk or rejected as well.
I had to stop watching out of disgust.
You stopped watching grubby because of it?
I hate AI cause I'm a human supremacist but lets be real, 99% of creatives don't actually care about the ethical problems, it just sound better than "AI took my job" to zogbots.
@@TheRealCHIMShady Correct. Lost count of how many cases of professional artists tracing or copying other people's works. Obviously there's a very real complaint about AI "stealing" work to create something "new" but anyone being intellectually honest knows the vast majority of complaints are basically people upset that they're being replaced by the future. There's going to be people who innovate and use AI to prop themselves up as an artist, and there's going to be people like @luxzhvs who just fade into obscurity.
Blizzard should have consulted with the fans before using the lumberjack look
0:08 Wait, why's Wtii and Grubby there. I never saw that. 😂😂
Grubby has been there for a while maybe a couple of day after he got NOT addicted to the map.
@@kl9686 I still find it insane how Wtii, who has been playing this map on and off for more than 2 years only is level 24-ish something, whilst Grubby here in just a month is already 73 LOL
@@HackerArmy03 think wtii only plays once or twice a week or so
@@TheMrpatey think Grubby retuns back in time to play more DS
Thanks, Grubby. Never heard of this game and now I have a crippling addiction
@12:08 it's blizzard. They royally screwed up SO much in the custom game scene it's unbelievable.
9:20 Looks like a mobile game. Warcraft Immortal confirmed? I'm sure people have phones by now.
Keep in mind now grub that bears cast in bear form now so you can get a few faeries and just melt a bear army when they roar/rejuv
Excellent.
Up next, play DotA 1 in Reforged 2.0.
yes finally some direct strike, i'm not a fan of these "1v1" custom games
Lol
Love the mode but I'd say the survival chaos is even better for you and i d love to see its popularity growth thanks to you.
just going to be that 1 patch update to help push the sales of the Warcraft Remastered Battle Chest
grubby you always say how you need more dps, then only build one dps unit and go back to casters and tanks
What buttons does he use to auto target his wisp/minion buyer and other buildings?
Ctrl 1, Ctrl 5, Ctrl 6, Ctrl 7
When i was play today on mine Ryzen 7500f, rx 7700 xt in late game when stacks two waves, about 200 units on screen and all spells fps goes ~30fps 😲😂 but PC utilization was maybe about 50% and both CPU and GPU didnt hit 50% of power usage. Nice optimization.
Love DS very much
Do you feel the FPS difference in HD? I see you have 60-120 now and usally you had 250+
I am unable to use new graphics at Direct Strike but you can download replays and watch them at new graphics ;) hahhahaha what a nice trick!
What is that shield passive icon the knight has? I dont remember knights having anything like that
funny enough it's not a shield effect, it's called sundering blades and it increases each knight's damage by 10 against medium armored units
@@aliyosef6367 Thanks, I've been trying to get an answer for a long time lol.
@@aliyosef6367 It's not +10, it's +15%.
I still can't see what faerie dragons do. Can someone please explain what they're good for?
Also do Banshees target large targets for possession? Or is it random?
Kinda strange that a lot of people still dont know about the old > reforged transition
"Did Blizzard break DS with this patch?" IDK Grubby, lets ask the MK with 204 str at level 10 with 0 items!
For real?
how would a patch to the game change values in a custom game?
You played a hacked map on BNet. Use W3C or host yourself to guarantee you're playing on a genuine map.
That's someone changing the map and then using it lmao. was it red?
@@FollowGrubby Purple XD
Now that they dropped remastered 1 & 2 are we gonna Grubby running the older games?
has the classic mode always been a thing? wouldn't mind seeing a round of that, even tho i believe undead might be the strongest in an automated battle
Horde is the strongest
hey, i realized they reused w2 music for hearthstone. when loading into battlegrounds you hear the song we heard. i wonder if there are others, i never played wc2
yeah there's another like 30 seconds after the first, reused as combat music in battlegrounds. i always thought hearthstone music was cool, now i'm learning it's a hundred years old lol
Danke!
Hey thanks very much!
Whoa how did you get to run it with reforged?
Is it because you're not on W3 champion?
I am surprised the map maker doesnt know how to float buildings, i always changed that when using flying units as buildings , it looks so weird when they are stuck in the ground,.
I think I'm too good, been practicing nexus line wars, desert strike and colonial war so i back seat you to the max
Regarding the picture you showed of the game that looks different
If you look at the back of the physical cases of the games where they ''show'' the game, you'll see that there are quite some differences too with the actual game that launched, it's not all about AI
Great point
Is there a tutorial for playing Direct Strike?
No need. You have 3 possible starting positions, top, middle, bottom. You start by building a mine as soon as possible wherever you are.
If you're top, build troops only first, and keep 100 gold before the beginning of your wave (when your clock reaches 0) to be able to build a hero for second wave.
If you're middle, same exact thing as top.
If you're bottom, you wait until you get 500 gold and build a hero and then only you add 1 troop before first wave (the timing is very precise, click hero as soon as you reach 500, you will have between 6 and 10 seconds to choose it).
A hero takes 30 seconds to be built.
It takes around 45 seconds to go one tier up and unlock new units.
The only valid reasons I see to rush tier 2 (as soon as 3rd wave) is when you have druid of the claw (which allows a 20% damage boost to all your army with Roar), or when your opponent also rushes tiers.
Usually, the second goldmine can be built as soon as you down the opponents' tower. But you can also invest on a goldmine sooner if you beat very easily your direct opponent wave, and damage the next one (helping your teammates by snowball effect, since their wave will be easier, etc.)
That's it. You don't have to know a lot more to play, especially if you begin by random to familiarise yourself, and then play draft once you know the units and their effects 😉
There is, Gruby did it.
What a ridiculous essay. Grubby made a video that's better.
@@MWTan-nr6zl that's the basis, you can disagree if you want, but it's usually everything that Grubby says and does also.
@@Valgurt1111 Many thanks for this!
Grub, can you explain this map? I can't understand what's happening on it
I explain how to get started on Direct Strike (W3C or BNet) in this Beginner's and startup Guide: th-cam.com/video/lP11aXKBPzI/w-d-xo.html
@FollowGrubby thanks man 🤗 hugs
How can I have the last update of this map? I still have version 4.0.1
google hiveworkshop direct strike
I still want my higher poly models though... that's all I ask Blizz pls bring Classic+ at least as an option
21:17 grid enjoyers stay winning
More Ghouls!
Really think you are giving too much respect to ai art early in the video, it isnt just about if it looks 'good' or not but principle behind generated ai art and how regurgitated or fitting a generic trend it all becomes as it shoves it all into the blender. Give it a few years without being critiqued hard and regulated and it will put actual artists out of work for corporations wanting a quick buck, downgrading quality, agility to change things (cause most creators wont know how to make their own changes and just fight prompts) and a standardisation of styles where we just end up lacking fresh creative input and styles. Basically mass production that will just dilute interest or be similar to doom scrolling endless social media trends but without much way of new ones popping up.
People might not talk about it the same way sure, but I'd be it would be indirectly talked about as we all complain about something else it causes similar to the trend of constant sequels and such with no new ips. Corporate trends will be more visible to complain at
If and when this happens, won't it automatically re-fuel the desire for real artists to share their work? All value of artists (including me) has to fit the zeitgeist. If AI replaces artists (or replace me, as a vtuber streamer ran by an AI may be a better entertainer than I am), I will not be a streamer anymore and need to find something else. But can I PHYSICALLY stop others from creating AI-fueled VTUBER streamers/youtubers? If I complain about it a lot?
@@FollowGrubby An interesting take, thanks for the reply I appreciate it :) I think the issue is in the copyright and blender of it all currently. Theres tons of areas in the industry we would all love more ai in tooling or various other bits, but we are being sold out on it by companies aiming for using our own work as fuel for ai then expecting us to still grunt work the parts we actually want more development to cut down time. To have that refueling too, it needs to be somewhat safe to post and train in anything so you dont instantly put yourself out of the job by an ai copying your work. Likewise it will destroy so many careers until that realisation comes that turns it around again, destroy lives all for profits in short term, and put off so much fresh blood from seeing the industry as a career option, heard a lot of younger people being worried about it already.
I dont know the creator youtube etc side so well, but I can see lots of the issue coming in the vtuber models etc side, but I guess the comparison would be if one was ran entirely on your own warcraft 3 games and content from your whole past, in order to be a vtuber mimicing you. I think youd surely have some complaints, but also just feel rather sad about it seeing it happen. So the complaining and sadness is aimed at the corporations and governments to protect rights and copyright etc firstly, or things will die off before people outside even realise it was any issue, under the guise of companies saying it was only for research or whatever. For instance I believe I recall one case of one saying it would be "too hard" now to go back and credit every artist and ask permission... which is the issue, they just want to run away with it until that is the case, and its just sad.
Sorry to keep ranting but it also makes referencing much harder, which has impacted my work at least, cause googling etc is soooo much ai that finding the realistic thing to lern from or use as example for a client is rough. And likewise being shown ai as a goal for say a realistic hairdo, that is literally impossible. It all causes problems. Yet we can appreciate that some of it looks good, it can inspire, or give some basis of colour or various other things that do help. Most common wish though, is that it then credits the artists I can then look to to find more like it, and they get whatever credit they deserve in it all.
TLDR I just dont think its all clear cut as complaining or accepting, theres more in play, and being able to say yeah it doesnt look too bad, but we cant be doing this without it being cleaned up and paying the real people that should be. Nor accept it in false marketting, we didnt with cinemtatic trailers like watchdogs e3, and I would say this is worse
(Also, would genuinely be interested in the impacts and interactions of it on the youtuber/streamer side of things, as I say I only know my own field mostly. I think theres weird stuff with it and youtube kids? Which when I saw we so weird and concerning, but so very different)
Grubby holland ist ja eh die geilste stadt der welt, aber du bist nen schöner Beweis, warum das so ist
Danke
Thumbnail grubby high af
Yea idc much if disliking the use of ai in art and music is going to be a boomer take. And I realize that its going to be a massive issue going forward. I understand it helps cut costs. My issue is the ethics of it. The arts are intrinsically human and using ai for it removes that. I do think there is a difference between ai upscaling vs ai art though. And I think when you start off with something small like icons, ai upscaling is going to look bad and end up looking like ai art rather than just an increased resolution. At the end of the day we will likely have ai art with human tweaks on it until we reach the point where ai can just do all of it. I think that will be a sad point in humanity and I feel bad for all the artists, writers, and singers who won't exist rather than just got replaced directly. The biggest disliked part of these warcraft updates is the ai followed by hearing about the support and caving in on its eventuality.
Unfortunately I am having fun with wc1 and wc2 looking better by comparison to what they were and I didnt realize it was as bad of an upscale before my purchase. The qol is great for ensuring I could even want to go back to playing them despite my childhood of playing them and how enjoyable it was, it wasn't a good feeling to go back and play the originals. I also think buying them shows blizzard we do want care in these games and to still play the old ones. So its torn. Blizzard is already in on ai and i'm stuck with the same defeatist attitude and i'm sick of this topic because the ethics on it are obvious. Make a good product and you won't need to cut the costs of artists. Fail to make a good product and have the company die out naturally. Its funny as i'm playing d2r as I type this and I hate the character model changes in that game more than the classic hd versions of wc1,2,3.
To all the people saying remasters are AI generated: it's actually impossible to consistently generate so many images without losing original style and encountering weird image generation errors. Most probably, these sprites are hand-drawn.
It's not Ai generating it from scratch, it's crappy AI upscaling of original art
@sacred3607 doesn't seem like it to be honest
Same rules apply
@@wodzu4085 really interested in how you can tell the difference. "impossible to consistently generate so many images without losing original style" its not impossible because the original game literally had all these images in the same style to begin with. Are you suggesting that was a fluke and no one can ever make that many again?
You say it isnt Ai but then speak about image "generation" as if humans cant make or copy art styles constantly. Get outta here, you dont know what your talking about.
GRUBBY PLsss bring back BINDERS 3.0
I dislike AI "art" in principle because computers don't have artistic intent. I wouldn't want to live in a world where every picture or animation is made by a computer and somebody simply picked out what they liked. In the same way I wouldn't want to listen to a chatbot impersonating Grubby while talking about a Direct Strike game. What is the POINT of looking at or listening to anything, if not to engage with the person or persons who designed it?
Everybody knows "designed by committee" is an insulting term. That's how everything will be in the future if we don't cultivate an expectation that art is made by humans.
When i am reading all the stupid questions and ridiculous takes in his chat then i am very glad that i am not grubby right now in this patch xd
18:13 hear me out
Idk rifles with 0 range and my account level and point all getting reset to 1… not cool
where is portal 2?
it's at youtube.com/@grubbyplays
Blizzard auto chess in wc3 soon? 😢
game is fun, people ruin it. Stopped having fun after getting back to 1500 mr
I've agreed on your A.I. art point for a while, its a faster cheaper option, so while its at the point where errors are common soon it will be extremely difficult to notice or get errors, especially at the speed of improvement we are at now, so with that in mind its use in the industry is a matter of time. with that being said, as a consumer If the game industry uses A.I. what justification do they have to price things the way they do? they may jump at the chance to save money by replacing their artists with 1-2 A.I. artists but how its it any way fair they can still charge you for like a 10 dollar digital portrait in hearthstone when i know now it was made in 5 minutes by someone with little to no artistic experience. So i understand its coming whether we like it or not but hopefully people understand how bad of an idea it is to pay full price while games are becoming cheaper and faster to make with A.I.
pls fix wc3 for mac ! 45 days nobody on mac played the game! :(
I lost all my skin and lvl
No its literally AI generated. A filter on top of what the real game looks like.
First, rerereforge!
Don't ignore the gamer revolution. DMG meter is in the billions. AAA and big publishers needs to listen or we will send them to the poor house
Grubby can you Position yourself with your face cam better, you hide game chat
wtf is direct strike
Daddy would you like some sausage
Ok tom green, don't hurt your back now
Look honey, our son is a genius
You can thank Phil Spencer for Blizzard RTS getting attention again. Bobby Kotick would have kept them in the cellar forever. Complaining about AI art is already a "boomer take". The corporations aren't going to stop using AI and no boycott is going to work so you may as well get used to it and stop complaining.
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Hi grubby, there are a lot of reasons why the new Warcraft 3 2.0 patch is bad, and I'm honestly really disappointed in your bias reviews and your failure to point out basically any of these new major issues. I also hate that you are now taking a page from Blizzard's book and using AI for your own content. I may not be subbed to this TH-cam channel specifically, but you have truly disappointed a longtime fan.
(1) I have not done a review, I've shown a feature breakdown (2) frankly, you have 0 idea how many major or minor flaws I have pointed out that are now not in the game because I have not claimed credit for them (3) I am biased (4) I have failed to point out many issues, because I am not a 100-man hired QA squad. I am a full-time streamer and TH-camr that has spent as much time as humanly possible to give feedback on as many things as possible to make the game as good as possible, but I am _NOT_ a blizzard employee, I am not paid, and I do not think WC3 2.0 patch is unflawed. I believe your emotions and disappointments have made you make a rash statement in ignorance, and I accept, in the moment, that you needed to blame me for that, however misplaced.
@@FollowGrubby 1. Feature breakdown versus review - semantics... Us fans expect you, the popular content creator who apparently has blizzards ear, to speak up on behalf of us and urge them to not screw over their player base, which you have not done.
2. I'm not sure how anyone could prove or disprove that. However, I have pointed out more flaws that are now fixed than you have, you cannot prove I didn't.
3. Glad we can agree on something
4. This is just an excuse. The issues I am referring to are ones that basically everybody should run into on first launch. You aren't a qa for blizzard but apparently there are also issues that you helped identify to be fixed. Yet the issues like custom games being unsearchable, profiles being unviewable, menus being laggy, the initial update issues, etc, these all escaped you?
I also like how you gloss over the AI content you are now using, in an effort to blame ME for being emotional. Your response was as disappointing as your most recent content.
@@BlackFrostmourni believe you're putting too much on grubby's shoulders.. sure, blizzard is aware of him and his critiques but grubby doesnt represent the whole fanbase. Nor are you giving any credit/blame to the people who actually made the game that's upset you so.. do you honestly believe the people who made it aren't aware of the issues? Things take time, and more importantly, money to fix. Maybe instead of lambasting a streamer you're supposedly a "longtime fan" of, direct your complaints, however righteous, in the right direction. Just because grubby has instigated change before doesnt mean that blizzard just does whatever he says. That's not how any company works..
@@E2O10 you make it sound like I've never critiqued Activision themselves.
My complaints in my original comment here were about grubby and his response to the patch, not about the issues with the patch themselves. Again, if grubby "has blizzards ear" or "identified issues" he never claimed credit for getting fixed, AND the patch functions like it does currently, someone is either lying or a bad actor. It should at least merit a critique of Activision from grubby, but he won't do that because... Well I'm not sure why, that's why I left my original comment.
Grubby also 1. Specifically didn't address the AI portion of my comment and 2. Didn't have the decency to give me more than one reply. If anything, this interaction makes me feel vindicated and has made me dislike grubby a lot more. He came off to me as defensive and not self-aware.
@@BlackFrostmourn i think if your liking/disliking of a person is based on their response to a patch in a video game it's not a healthy baseline for functional relationships - not that you have any relationship to grubby other than being a viewer, and as such shouldn't expect him to advocate on any matter on your behalf.
Also, "Didn't have the decency to give me more than one reply." - this is an insane statement to make.. Yes, grubby sometimes replies to these comments but do you expect him to hang around all day arguing? Unlike us, he's streaming, when he's not, he's enjoying the rest of his life. Your own expectations of your relationship with him is your undoing. He doesn't owe you anything..
mac users watching you play DS with tears in their eyes.....
Grubby based on ai art