'Not Recognising Same-Sex Marriage Leads to Gay Brain Drain': Petitioners Explain | The Quint
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- While multiple petitions have been filed before the Delhi High Court seeking the recognition of same-sex marriage, one such plea focuses exclusively on the 'gay brain drain aspect.' We speak to the petitioners to understand it.
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I never understand why something which is not doing any harm to anyone is not legal but marital rape is!
I agree. Love is illegal but death or oppression is legal. That's the logical societal we are living in today's life.
If marrital rape is illegal then wives spending husband's money behind their back is Highway Robbery
@@Gaminfystar ya it is and it can be dealt with legal solutions. But taking the matters in their own hand and beating the wives is more severe now tell me what case would u be standing for a wife beater or a helpless woman who left her home and only possible way to get her needs technically is from her husband's pockets....
@@trevorkhanna5865 if the women left the husband,no matter what the reason was, she doesn't have any right over his money.
If you want his money, you gotta stay with him.
@@Gaminfystar we r talking about this while in the marriage man has no right to beat her whether in the marriage or out of it....
Thank You Quint, for once again raising the voice of the LGBTQ+ community.
Also like how are y'all parents not homophobic? I would be living in India but my parents are extremely conservative so can't
Hi!!! Prakhar 😆
LGBTQWMNCKOLSZTCKE++++++++++++++++++
What's wrong in recognising the same sex marriage? Which culture will be affected? Why is the Judiciary waiting for the verdict? Justice delayed is justice denied.
Our own culture celebrated same sex relations and transgenderism. We've even got tales of homosexuality in our Holy books. The problem is, people always take away whatever's most convenient for them.
@@nomenome856 we didn't really celebrate it because it was considered normal but as India git raided by different cultures the mentality started changing. Even then we used to acknowledge about it. However after the British rule Sam sex marriages were denied as they used to feel nauseous on seeing Indians accepting different form of love other than the opposite sex and hence made it illegal. And since then it has been stigma but in reality during ancient times love used to be love and each and every one believed in fluidity. I just hope we develop the mentality of ancient India because we are running in the wrong direction.
Y'all really want to destroy mankind altogether.
@@goqul you really want to come in with your irrelevant opinions? Not our problem you can't find love. Go a dude, maybe you will.
@@rtggaming8552 exactly!!! We were much freer and less prejudiced, but Christianity considers it a sin and the Brits stigmatized gender and sexual fluidity. We've got to decolonise our culture and take away the best things from our ancient scriptures
We are losing some marvelous gems just because their sexual orientation don't match the law ? The law brought in by the British and even scrapped in their own country? Sexual orientation is accepted by the Religion then why not the social construct ?
Exactly, even though I am straight when my parents Or relatives or anybody tells me to leave the preparation of civil services nd forget to become an IAS n try to get some other jobs bcoz it's not everyone's cup of tea. I become angry n here this boy who wanted to become an IAS was forced to leave the country. It really hurts when you r getting forced to leave the dream n life u always want...
@@mayankmishra1615 she was a girl thou
Which religion accepts sexual preference? The last time I checked Islam and Christianity were openly hostile towards gay people, and Hinduism was at best ambivalent.
@@arkadevrahul true and we lgbt people never denied that sir
@Tabassum Misri you are right
You are denied of equal right just because of your sexual orientation, this is fucking shame in a democratic country. Wish you all the best guys, the life the way you all want to be.
@Somreek i guess india claims be "democratic" that's why they are calling it democratic
There isn’t one true democracy on this planet , we humans suck👀
All the best guys Or Gays
@@anddroidgland103 guys or gays? U realise gay ppl are men/guy/dudes?? Right .... Or u have that weird fantacy where u let ur hormone speak instead of ur consciousness. oh and btw there's not a single evidence of whether there's a hormonal change in gay men as compared to controls (straight men)
@Somreek 🤣🤣a state where most people are unemployed uneducated and poor has a dazzling temple, democracy for ub
This is exactly my situation right now. All my childhood I have been passionate about joining defense sectors, but the law doesn't allow homosexuals to be part of defense sectors. My career seems to be not in my hands because of law. I want to contribute to my nation, but it's forcing me to move out of the country for my masters and where I could live my life with dignity.
It just feels awful when I think of middle/lower class families who cannot afford to do so. It's unfair. The extent to which this affects individuals' mental health is horrible. The way LGBTQ+ individuals are treated amongst their peer groups, friends, and family is way too challenging. Bullying, mocking, judging, criticism, and whatnot. We are devoid of our basic rights. Not allowed to live our lives with dignity. It just affects individuals well being and the country as a whole.
Valid points ❤️❤️
This puts us in the shoes of women in the 19th century, with no rights and mere hopelessness, the fact that we haven't gotten our rights yet is
...heartbreaking
The same scenario was with one guy I once dated too.... He was definitely gay but never wanted to accept it so kept saying he's bi uk.... I had no problem with dating a bi/pan guy but not being who they r and fearing the society is something not healthy.....
@@trevorkhanna5865 I m getting all notifications wherever u r replying 😂😂
@@amrit6719😬😬 can't sleep 😭😭 I'm kinda insomniac these days sorry I'll keep as low as possible...
As a 20 year old, gay person, I too had to rethink my entire career and I inevitably will pursue my masters in the west and probably live there for the rest of my life. There is a certain guilt of giving up on your Nation, for a thing like this, but what do I do!?
I really hope it gets better for you. We're all trying to fight for your rights and maybe it will work if we stick together?
Just hope for the best prepare for the worst...
Im in the identical scenario and whats worst is I cannot even come out even if I wanted to. It's whole dad's a heart patient.... Thing family's whole responsibilities on me and it gets overwhelming a lot of times and I'm just hoping it'll pass but the end doesn't seem so great on my side.....
Please dont harbour any guilt. Your rights are being compromised. It is beyond justified.
@@trevorkhanna5865 Yeah it will pass man! we will change the whole world together! Believe in the legacy of founders of our great nations and our founding values. Hum Honge Kaamyab Ek Din!
For a buisness degree?
I am gay and thinking to shift to canada after my graduation..the only reason i thought of it coz of my sexuality.. n its just not me every gay .. literally has this dream.. however majority of them are not able to do it. Just imagine how it is affecting
It's good to have empathy for everyone but again you're not to blame don't feel any kind of bad feelings take care of your mental health one day everyone will have equality. Don't feel bad for things you don't have power over and yes it is good to have empathy for others just don't let it drag you down and make you feel things that are bad for your mental health.
Bro me too
@@YourTrueBro ur a cis het man, aren't you?
@@naina4288 very well said... 😂😂😂
I cannot afford to move.
Let people live however they wish to be and just respect their choices. Is it a very big deal???
@Ohrdak Relocate Kashmiri Pandits first
@@rishabhsharma4339 This is precisely why you are not in the govt.
@@shreyankshresth3228 😂😂😂😂
@@rishabhsharma4339 see Kashmir belongs to not just separatists
@Ohrdak Dream on! Haha
This is exactly what I wanted my girlfriend to understand, she thinks I prefer the US cause of the money there I would absolutely love to serve and respect my country only when I receive the same from my countrymen, I really wish I can see the change in mindset of people in india while I'm still alive.
Show her this video if possible my comment too..... Dudes living with dignity shouldn't come at any cost.... If living in the states can empower u. If u can live ur life to the fullest there. If u can voice out ur opinion without hesitation or think twice before voicing them out there I would totally ask u to seriously consider it... It might seem trivial now but believe me freedom of expression is absolutely necessary and without it.... It just doesn't feel right.... And empty void and feeling to be isolated devours u.... Trust me to escape that feeling I would do anything rn. But the responsibilities on my hand are too heavy to even let me walk away... If u have chance take it....
Before demanding respect, you need to tell us why your mentality deserves to be respected. Democracies don't allow everyone to do as they desire, that is lawlessness. You need to allay the concerns and put forward the justifications.
@@shubhamjohri290 there is a basic respect everyone deserves as humans regardless of their gender, race and sexuality. After that, everyone has to earn respect on their own. The respect the original comment talks about is the basic one.
Initially I shocked what sufjan steavan doing here , love him❤️
@@shubhamjohri290 Yeah democracies don't allow all things and Iran has democracy too ..lol
I promise to all the LGBT community out there I will spread awareness regarding it, and will put effort to bring laws and give privilege to them as common men and women get
God bless u 🙏
We need more people like you.
Loads of love and support ❣
Thank you and God bless you
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
In ancient india this was not at all problem but when Britishers came the form a law that LBGTQ
is not acceptable
🕺🏻ancient india?really,any proof
@@Rowdyjat temples bestie
@@YourTrueBro I'm sorry but you seem to suggest that Hindus are OK with homosexuality. Not really true, I have lived amongst Hindus all my life, extremely homophobhic, atleast here in bengal. And where do you find theocracy in our constitution?
@@daviddas5107 they are talking about religion and not the humans who happened to be born and have that religion written in their birth certificates
You're highly mistaken my friend, no ancient civilization accepted LGBT+ folks as there was no concept of sexual orientation or gender identity per se. Also, you have to read Dharma-Shashtra such as Manu-Smriti in order to realise how wrong you are about your perception. Indulging in same sex activity could cause a loss of caste for an upper caste individual. The only Indian text that remotely could be considered sex positive is Kama-Sutra by Vatsyayana. That too doesn't have deep understanding of anything like we have today. And it wasn't conferred with authority like the Vedas and other texts, for this very reason.
Nonetheless, Indian religious texts have either remained silent for the most part at the cost of LGBT+ folks being made outcasts or have maintained a less hostile stance compared to the Abrahamic texts. Because Hinduism believes in pursuit of moksha and every soul, regardless, is equally capable of that.
I'm a 19 year old gay boy from Assam and I have a boyfriend and I've been in relationship with him for more than two years now. We're gonna move in together soon. It's all pretty exciting and all. But whatt I'm afraid of is that, when I'll join college, pursue my masters and higher education and later on a job, I don't want my sexuality to be a secret and I don't want it to affect my academic life and work life in any way. I'm as capable as a straight boy of my age would be. I want to marry my partner and lead a normal life in my own country without having to move out to some other country just to have my basic rights away from my family and friends.
So, it's a request to everyone reading this who is gonna pursue law in the future or is pursuing law currently, please, please join our fight and raise our voices in the courts because we deserve a normal and happy life too :(
It's just a matter of few months maybe we will be fighting until we get our right. 26 August is the hearing day.... Keep ur ears and eyes wide open and check the date again cuz I'm not too sure about it either 😅😅
Yes... that's why I chose law over medical....
Don't worry...it gets better 🌈
The amount of homophobic Indians on twitter is just insane. India is way too back in terms of open mindedness.
@@YourTrueBro Actually many surveys have shown only 30% of people support LGBT, other than that either they strongly disagree or "no opinion"
@@YourTrueBro Do you mean 60% is rural? because that's the statistics.
And even if the homophobic population mostly resides in the rural region doesn't mean we ignore them. And in a 2014 survey about Indian youth, the rural youth population was around 30% supportive whereas the urban population was around 28%. And honestly not much have changed since 2014
@@YourTrueBro nah they are not. Very few people I have met are even ok with it.even if they are they are ok to stand by when someone mocks. speaking up means you are becoming the minority. it irks me to no end
I love my country very much! I love my Bhārata but, if here I have to face trauma just because of my sexual orientation, I have to unwillingly leave my country.
Whether gay, straight, bi, lesbian, queer or trans. Everyone's equally troubled by the age old mentality and ancestorial beliefs which is prominent and closely governs the society to this date.
@mohammad shoaib kaum ke thekedar, kripya apni photo lagaa ke aayein 🤣🤣🤣
@mohammad shoaib Main Parsi hoon yaar. Aur RSS/Sangh/BJP ke against hoon. Tu itni jaldi profiling kyun karta hai?
Dekh Bhai, main khud bhi straight hoon aur fake-feminism aur LGBT ke naam pe kuch log kya karte hain, yeh jaanta hoon. Lekin Islam mein tumko yeh haq diya hai ke tum unlog se daawa karo, samjhao, example set karo, na samjhe toh koi baat nahi.
Lekin tumko yeh hukm nahi diya hai ke agar Kisi bhi insaan (LGBT ho ya kuch bhi) par koi zulm karta hai, toh unke haq ke liye jihaad na karo aur us zulm ko andekha karo.
Nabi/Rasoolon ne gair kaumo ki tak madad ki thi.
Khyber fateh karne se pehle unhone wahaan ki dushman kaum ki magfirat ki dua bhi ki thi.
I am sorry to say dost, Islam Kuch aur hai aur tum Muslim log Kuch aur example set karte ho.
laure ka islam
The society/politicians are concerned about inter-religion marriages and bringing in laws, would they ever allow same sex marriage is a question to answer. Everyone should be able to live their life they want without giving a damn to the govt. Hope this comment doesn’t make me gay.
@Harsh Singh Sahi baat kahi bhaii nee
@Harsh Singh true but we can't determine his religion just based on the name.. Plus he could be a non believer with a Muslim name..
@Harsh Singh even Hindus don't allow for Same sex marriages. You have no right to ridicule another religion
Lol even Gay sex was legalised only in 2018, it takes time
No one can "make" u gay don't worry being an ally is the only thing we expect from straight folks....
It’s basically my story. When 12, I knew I was different and being born in India in a lower middle class tribal household didn’t help. I worked hard, and whenever I felt depressed or demotivated I just thought of my need to be independent to be a man of my own will, or to say simply, to move out. I got into a medical college. Grant MC Mumbai to be specific, the best in the state & one of the oldest in Asia. And now that I think of it, as much as I want to live a happy life in the States or UK or Canada, I don’t feel like to leave my country in its present shitty state.
As everyone can relate, there’s no way we can live here with dignity. Luckily I got a set of very kind and accepting friends, but again, everyone doesn’t. It’s so painful to work so hard, having 12 hour and sometimes even 24 hour shifts serving the society as a doctor who are often equated to god, but then get words like filthy, faggot, chakka, unnatural, product of the west and so on so forth imprinted on my back just for loving whom I love. It’s so much pressure, feels like a burden. Life feels like the myth of Sisyphus, meaningless. But I didn’t come so far to back off right? I’ll not be the one getting shamed for society’s own wrongs, for the society is the one to be ashamed!
However, I managed to attain certain powers to escape the “Discreet Gay” destiny (which most of my past Grindr hookups possessed), but not everybody can. Although my traditional Hindu family would be hard to convince (don’t mind my username, it’s just a spare account), I’m certainly at a way better position than top 1% of gay men (in matters of overall wellness) in this country. Seeing my own struggles so fucking hard & deep, I cant even imagine what others must be going through. We can’t stay hidden for long. Those who are privileged must increase our visibility, amplify our voices and ask for rights. In this fight we don’t have a class, caste, religion or gender, we’re undivided, we all are QUEERS in here. We need to stay strong, be visible, be heard, fight together and ultimately win!!!!!!
I am Muslim gay guy
Just discovered in lockdown that I am gay
My situation is worse than you
My family is super religious
Now I am pursuing btech in 2nd year computer science
Now my only aim is to be only financial stable
After being financial stable
I also wants to leave this country
Personally i don't think that by changing laws there will be any effect on our parents
It would take time
But i think my mom will accept me
Afterall she is my mom
My dream is to take her to foreign and just give her wonderful life
I hope you will also be able to sort out your problems
Best of luck 😉
All is well .........
I can relate this story to my life...I thought...ki ...i m the only person....😂😂
Thanks for putting this story here..I m also working hard to get best version of myself...
Running away from this country isn't a solution...at all.
Yes....u correctly pointed out...we have to be visible..work hard to reach at best positions...to make this society realise about their behaviour toward us....and specially ...for trans and Non-binary people...
More power to you....sir
Felt ...so glad ki...😂😂
I scrolled this comment section...and found this comment...
Thanks sir ❤️❤️
@@user-cc1so5tq2p I hope you succeed. All the best.
@@user-cc1so5tq2p Hey thanks! I hope you find your dream come true soon! I know things are still bearable for me and many others have struggles far harder than mine. But you can do it, keep faith and all the best!
@@amrit6719 Definitely not alone! This generation is gonna be different. We are not gonna hide, we will hit hard with force. We will be heard, they will have to hear us. Best of luck for your journey!
There's nothing wrong in who you want to love and marry. We are all humans and we must have all the same rights. We need to change our mentality. We don't even allow love marriage (even that isn't a term used popularly in the world anymore except our own country). Please guys. Just try to be acceptable and open minded. 👏
ok if i want to love and marry minors can I? what is the borderline for this? it can be used for so many arguments.
@@Aditya-iw1dl If you have enough brain to argue about this, I think you also have the common sense that I am not talking about marrying a minor. That's illegal, obviously. It truly shows that you didn't even understand even a point of what I had said, and just wrote down something that seemed good enough to you.
@@Aditya-iw1dl they already do that in many countries. In the most homophobic ones like Afganistan.
Jo open minded ki baaat ap karhe ho wo besharmi ghatia harkat he
We need more representations, more stories and more openness.
Why isn't this on prime time news of any mainstream Indian media ? This is so relevant.
that is true
It's simply too poor to take notice of such sophisticated issues.
this scares me like do I really have to leave my country just to be myself when these all things are in our culture :(
as a queer teenager this is exactly what i am afraid of. i do not want to leave behind my family and my life in india but if laws are not changed in our favour what other option will i have?
If law has recognized The LGBTQ+ relationship. I see no problem in recognizing the marriage too.
I moved to US for the same reason. Didn’t want to be considered a criminal for simply being myself.
Who the hell say same sex marriage is inappropriate
Means you can be intimate
But when it comes to marry a person of whom you love immensely, it becomes illegal here
Just wow indian judicial system😒🏳🌈
The comments give me hope......I am loving that so many Indians are being more and more open and accepting about lgbtq+ community. God bless people in these comments......if we as allies join hands, we can make so much happen for this community😄😄
Yes, and even our ruling party is pro LGBTQ+
But I'm not.
Biology is biology.
@@ayushmangd5538 they are the same party who fought for transgender rights.
Also rss chief said that LGBTQ are a part of society.
Maybe it's all political stunt, I don't know, but this right wing vs left wing, capitalism vs socialism, etc is irrelevant in India.
Every party is socialist here.
Exactly same with me a lesbian studying hard to get out of my country and the comments over here are so positive that feels so good
I am packing and leaving next year, god I didn't kill myself by being treated as a third class citizen by every single person in this soulless country
same
Leave please
@Namir Deshmukh don't worry, I left already
As a queer teen I'm yeeting myself out of here. Y'all are welcome to join.
Same here
L -> Hindu God Karthikeyan (God of War) was born from a Union of 7 Lesbian Heavenly Nymphs
G -> Gay Warrior Shikhandi took party in Mahabharata Battle, Not as Soldier but as a Army General !!!
B -> Bisexuality is mentioned in Kamasutra, Written by Hindu Sage - Vatsyayana who even mentions Group Orgies
T -> Transgender People like Brihannala was celebrated as a Hero, He was World's Greatest Archer
Q -> Hindu Major Gods - Krishna and Shiva are often depicted in the Personality of a woman, despite being Men. One could argue this is portraying them in their "Queer" Personalities which Hindu Artists and Poets have passionately depicted
There's your entire "LGBTQ" found in Hinduism.. Hinduism is never Intolerant towards any Community. We don't need Westerners to tell us we are Intolerant and preach us about LGBTQ. We have always cherished these values till we came under Islamic Invasions and British Colonization which imposed values and morals of Islam and Christianity of rest of India which criminalized LGBTQ. So called Pseudo Liberals haven't opened a Book on Hinduism and repeat same Narrative like Parrots, If only they knew about their own Proud and Great History, Culture and Nation !!!
well kartikey wasn't born from lesbian 🙄 that's completely illogical it was sapt matrikas who were oppionted by parvati to care of kartikey stop making false story in the name of lgbt and acceptance 😒
There are lot of Christians who are part of LGBTQ, and many churches accepting LGBTQ community. ❤❤🏳🌈
@@annjo7367 and I am a part of tht haha 💓🏳️🌈 am gay and Christian is
I help other LGBTQ people who are broken and whome churches don't accept.
I feel so saddened seeing Christian people literally showing hate in pride parades that's so wrong!!
When god condemns hate and Instead supports love.
Butt tysmmm the LGBTQ community needs more people like u
The Brits and Mughals are gone, then whats stopping India now from allowing same sex marriage? No one needs a story on what was, we should be interested in what is and what can be done.
Gay marriages will be allowed soon, i feel...377 scraped, now this will also happen, thank god my religion is much more open minded then any religion hehe, Britishers destroyed us, i hope government understand us n give us equal rights
This is what you get when an old mentality person passes their personal thoughts upon you via laws...which is actually so sad....It's like that family where that one person just throws their decisions on you and according to them you have to accept it.
This is exactly why i have to work abroad and contribute to a foreign country's economy instead of working for my own country even after wanting to do so. It's so unfortunate that my country won't let me marry my same sex partner..it's a basic human right. It's just sad that so many other citizens like me are forced out of the country every year just for the lack of this simple basic right. Hoping times will change
Sorry for what you're going through. Please share this video as much as possible to spread this message.
Best wishes to the LGBT community in India for the future decisions of the Supreme Court👍👍🎉
Indian epics address the beauty of a gay relationship in a nice way. All of this is happening now because of foreign invasion in the past. But what about now? India, we can do better!
lmao😳......which epic?
@@Rowdyjat read the ramayan, mahabharat and other stories in brief, about the side characters
@@khyatisrivastava3542 done,koi ni mila,aap hi bta do na
@@Rowdyjat there is nothing. There is no Hindu epic where they mentioned gay marriages are legal and happened in the 5000 history of India. These folks are just lying.
@@Rowdyjat Amara Das Wilhelm's book "Tritiya-Prakriti: People of the Third Sex", compiles years of extensive research of Sanskrit texts from medieval and ancient India, and proves that homosexuals and the "third gender" were not only in existence in Indian society back then, but that these identities were also widely accepted.
Citing from the chapter "Purushayita" in the Kama Sutra, a 2nd century ancient Indian Hindu text, the book mentions that lesbians were called "swarinis". These women often married other women and raised children together. They were also readily accepted both within the 'third gender' community and ordinary society.
The book further made mention of gay men or "klibas", which though could refer to impotent men, represented mostly men who were impotent with women due to their "homosexual tendencies".
They (gay men) were thoroughly referenced in the chapter “Auparishtaka” in the Kama Sutra, which is to do with oral sex. Homosexual men who assumed the ‘passive’ role in oral sex were referred to as ‘mukhebhaga’ or ‘asekya’.
The Kama Sutra's homosexual man could either be effeminate or masculine. While they were known to be involved in relationships of a frivolous nature, they were also known to marry each other.
The book further mentions that there were eight different kinds of marriages that existed under the Vedic system, and out of those, a homosexual marriage between two gay men or two lesbians were classified under the "gandharva" or celestial variety - "a union of love and cohabitation, without the need for parental approval".
Who Can Deny Khajuraho?
It’s impossible to talk about homosexuality in ancient India without referring to one of its most affirmative and visual ‘proofs’, so to speak. The sculptures in the Khajuraho temple of Madhya Pradesh are known for their overt homosexual imagery. The temple is popularly believed to have been built sometime around the 12th century.
The sculptures embedded in the Khajuraho temple depict what seem to be sexual fluidity between man and man and woman and woman. There are even instances of all-female orgies.
While the sculptures also depict “accepted” sexual relations between male and female entities, it is well-known for showcasing the existence of intimacy between members of the same sex.
Upon his visit to the temple, US-based techie Hrishikesh Sathawane wrote in DNA:
“If you think homosexuality is a western concept, go to Khajuraho... It is debatable if these things were socially acceptable in India, but they existed.”
Bhagirathi - The King Born of Two Queens
According to Krittivasi Ramayan, composed by by 15th century Bengali poet Krittibas Ojha, King Sagara of Ayodhya was desperate to maintain his bloodline after losing most of his sons to Kapila sage’s wrath.
The threat to the dynasty further worsened, when Dilip, his only heir, died before he could give his two queens the magic potion that would make them pregnant. But according to the poem, the widows drank the potion, and made love to each other to conceive a child, with one of them becoming pregnant.
The child was none of other than King Bhagirathi, who is known in mythology for bringing the Ganges down to earth from the heavensVaruna and Mitra, famously referred to as the “same-sex couple” in the ancient Indian scripture of the Rig Veda, were often depicted riding a shark or crocodile or sitting side-by-side on a golden chariot together.
According to the Shatapatha Brahmana, a prose text describing Vedic rituals, history and mythology, they are representatives of the two half-moons.
“On that new moon night, Mitra implants his seed in Varuna and when the moon later wanes, that waning is produced from his seed. Varuna is similarly said to implant his seed in Mitra on the full-moon night for the purpose of securing its future waxing,”
Valmiki’s Ramayana depicts Hanuman witnessing Rakshasa women kissing and embracing those women who had been kissed and embraced by Ravana. This is a clear acknowledgement of same-sex intimacy in India history and tradition.
I am deeply saddened that our society is very reluctant to let go of British borrowed homophobia
I also wanted to do IAS but i never mustered courage cos of my sexuality... now am a doctor and i feel better being anonymous to the society. Trust me i never wanted this way!
Why are you Gae?
“A banana is different from a cucumba”
-Pasta.
Thank you so much for your service towards the society. May you live a free,happy life.
Had u tired working in USA?
I hope you're able to find all the peace and love you deserve in life...
Finally someone spoke about it ! Thank u quint !
*as a gay person i know life is much harder than others..... tension, anxiety, hatred, shaming in choice, a lot uncomfortable questions is my everyday things.. things going tough when indian ruls also denied our basic rights..the most common issue is a high number of suicide case causes because of mentally and physically torture..and the most important part is most of us can't afford a foreign life...*
I am 15. I want to be a doctor but I am compelled to move abroad as life in India as a gay person is horrible, unfortunately I will not be able to go to med school abroad as it is really expensive (like 2.5cr). so I will have to do mbbs in India and then apply for residency abroad after which I intend to practice there. Hopefully I can make it. I just want to have a good life and live without the fear of being evicted, assaulted, harassed or fired.
Dude.... seriously no body will be gonna fire you...
Seriously...this is our country...u can't run away from your problems,our nation has..
What if Ambedkar flew away from during this period of Indian independence..bcz of untouchability,what would have happened to our Constitution....😂😂
..... running away from our problems,will not gonna change the world...
How lucky, we are that we born in india...you can't imagine what's happening with Islamic countries,for being who you really are!!!
.....It gets better 🌈......
@@YourTrueBro stop invalidating people's feelings and experiences omg ur literally replying to every single comment like wtf get a life
It is your Previous Mistakes which landed you here
@@user-bj5en7xo8e it is my previous lives mistake that I keep coming across the shit you are spewing. Also, you must've done something heinous last time.
Best of luck man
My partner ( a senior software developer) & I (a doctor) ultimately decided to move here to UK to live a life of dignity and here we got married and life is so easier to live as a couple...so, yes I am an example of gay brain drain.
Cool
Good to know at least after pulling off such a stunt you could be happy. (Although it is a shame that you had to leave in the first place).
All the best.
The worst part is even if you marry in a foreign country the law doesn't recognise it. There is a lesbian couple who came back to India to settle but the schools don't recognise the partner as a parent of the child. The partner is just a 'friend' or 'emergency contact'.
Foreign marriages cannot be accepted in India. That violates the sovereignty of India. Indian Legislature has to create a new marriage act that includes everyone irrespective of religion, caste, or sex.
Everyone have their own story and life experiences. My friend who stays in Delhi has a completely opposite story... he's out at his work place (he's into Finance working for an MNC), to his family and friends, as well as his landlord, gym, etc. He's got quite a lot of followers on Instagram where he posts openly on LGBTQ issues and none of the people who matters at his work or landlord or his family has any problem with him. Things are a lot better than what it used to be even 10 years back. Hopefully soon even same sex marriage will be allowed in India.
I came out to my frnds as asexual then pansexual they seem to not give damn and are totally accepting
India is becoming a country where even what you can eat, wear is being permitted by the government. To live a life of dignity in India nowadays is no more fundamental right.
Exactly what sort of "democracy" is this where people can't be with the ones they love
@@bubblegum9895 we are talking about a country where wearing comfortable clothes according to a person is a problem. Forget about LGBTQ human right🤷🏻♂️
Burqa and hizab should be ban in India. And make same s4x marriage legalize
"What we eat, wear is being permitted by the government" that was elected by the people with full majority to get working on its manifesto that contained items like beef-ban that were known to the public well before the elections, so it is the will of the society at large and YOU have to deal with it.
@@shubhamjohri290 Bro, we voted for the government so that they can help us not oppress us, duh
Lol it's not just them, anyone with sanity and means wants to leave this country. Heck people earning like top 5% also wants to leave this country for less pay and more freedom and economic safeguards.
@Rishone Blaze ok bro/sis, sure dig more shit and eat it.
You're talking about a country where even hetero couples can't kiss or hug in the public without getting moral policed. And this intolerance has only increased since 2014 and now you can't even eat what you like without getting lynched. As a society we are just going backwards. Soon enough we'll be competing with the likes of Pakistan when it comes to individual freedom.
@@Abhishek-bg5xd we are already competing against Pakistan. We have reached the incompetency of 1950s Pakistani society. We have fanatic love for religion and military in this country. Pakistan paid the price with Ayub Khan, we are paying the price with RSS, and worst is yet to come.
Exactly. They beat up hetero couples in public, I can't even hold hands with my girlfriend. I'm outta this dump.
@@swagatochatterjee7104 True. And it's sad that when you point out these wrongs, you'll be termed anti national and anti india by the bhakt brigade. I guess ignorance is bliss, at least in their case.
Unfortunately there are very limited option to choose for most LGBTQ peoples in india , moving to west is like an impossible thing a homosexual person can born rich , poor , middle class , slum dweller or even in refugee camps.. that's why 90% peoples never come out in india..!
It's not migration it's a self employed exhile for being what we are
This actually scares me . I love india and I love family and friends but I love myself too . how can I choose between them?
Let's hope the day of choosing never comes
Seriously we are at a point where people are leaving their own place cause of their sexuality and I absolutely understand that they don't have any other choice.
All the very best everybody. I hope oneday you all get that common goal you all are craving for i.e. to live with dignity in your own country.
It's really confusing to me why India doesn't recognise that it has many orphans. These children need love and care but most straight couples are busy contributing to the population. Letting Gay couples marry would help them, if not entirely at least to some extent.
Just read article of judge who give opinion about gay marriage
First and most problem in gay marriage is whom we consider husband Or wife ??
Because law give different right according to wife & husband if we nit consider husband or wife then we face many consequences
We don't know how it change society
Like someone pretend to be gay and marry rich/successful person then he/ she divorce him/her and want alimony 🤷♂️🤷♂️ or some other problem we don't know
India is 2nd biggest country in world (population) & everybody is not intellectual or literate that's why precaution is better than cure
@@Hope-xb5jv what consequences? Could you please elaborate? Also this whole wife and husband roles in a marriage is a social construct... It's a norm we have gotten used to unfortunately. Also about the 'pretending to gay and marrying into rich', there are plenty of straight couples out there who pretend to be in love for the money. Is the solution to stop getting people married in different financial status married? Obviously no, then why should the entire LGBTQ community suffer for these fictional scenarios. I understand that everybody is not literate in India but why should two people in love suffer for someone else's stupidity. Many couples are still having more than two kids despite all the actions taken and they are not showing signs of stopping. Letting LGBTQ couples adopt is like increasing the number of caregivers which could work wonders for India.
@@kavyareddy8711 yasss❤️❤️❤️ we stan u
@@kavyareddy8711 you are just brainless feminist first of all read
1. Kids Adoption rule in india
2. Why court not allow same gender marriage
3. What's consequences in indian society
I support rights of LGBTQ but I'm not ignore 99.9% population
LGBTQ community is not 0.1% population of india
Everything is changes according to time india is still not ready for LGBTQ marriage
We need separate law for LGBTQ because
Suppose two person same gender marriage then who give alimony or not give any alimony ( if both employed/ if one employed & other not)
Is domestic violence apply on them or not???
This is some basic question I'm not lawyer but I'm sure some other problems also exist
India need separate law for LGBTQ but as I said still india not ready for that
I am very well aware of the existing adoption laws. I know that the LGBTQ+ community still doesn’t have the right to marry in India, and parenthood is out of the question for most. I also know that lgbtq+ couples aren't legally allowed to marry yet so the general marry laws don't apply to them. I am just asking for a adressal to these issues for the greater good. In a country where rights for single parents and live-in couples with children is still an arduous battle, the discrimination against LGBTQ+ parents is not even part of public conversations. I am saying that this needs to change because Article 16 of the United Nations’ Universal declaration of human rights states that “men and women of full age… have the right to marry and to found a family.” There are 29.6 million orphaned and abandoned children in India which is a country with a disconcertingly low adoption rate. However, willing same-sex couples are still deprived of their adoption rights in the country. All I am asking for is a chance to fit in all these interrelated problems together, I don't know where 'stupid feminism' came in for you but I respectfully disagree with your opinion. You can also choose to do that respectfully.
Achha hi hai chale ja rahe hain, yaha gay ho ya straight, brains walo ki qadr hi nahi hai.
Shi bola .
Love is love
People has to understand 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
Proud to be a bisexual!!!
@Kaustabh actually
People like you
Are already a shame for society
Or
Apni bina matlab ki salah! Apne pas hi rakhe!!🙏
@Kaustabh ever considered therapy? Maybe a huge bottle of common sense is what will be prescribed to u if u go there...... Get well soon
@@MrBOI-xd6cw you are right bro...
🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
@@vagabondboizlove...4909 Thx
For yr favour!✨
Please leave india polluting our society
I'M PROUD GAY EVEN MY MOTHER ACCEPTED ME I WILL LIVE IN MY COUNTRY THE WAY I WANT
Wishing you luck and power.
@@adnans1154 thank u
@Caps Lock 🌈😘😘
We ❤️ u
@@trevorkhanna5865 ♥️
As a 17 year old queer woman
I have chosen a career that would be able to make it work and my parents will have to spend a lot of money for this
But well we have no other option really
Pls this is not a democratic country anymore.
A middle class girl and a lesbian, the upper class can easily move out but the lower middle class can't. It's tough for us, it's really tough 🥺🌈🤞
I never understand the concept of middle class and upper middle class, can u explain? .
Everyone call themselves middle class
Upper middle class are people who are not too rich but are rich enough
i realised i was queer last year. yes, i wanna move to the west for uni, just because i can’t really be myself here. it’s sad, yk. i wanted to be a lawyer here, but guess what, i can’t. i hate the government, i hate the mindset of the ppl. the heteronormativity is really f-ed up. it’s sad to think that a lot of gen z still is homophobic, just because of the brain washing done by our society
Gay brain drain is very real, I'm a doctor and most gay doctor friends I knew are now pursuing their residencies in US
That'll be my story too very soon
I relate. Preparing for USMLE since day 1 of 1st MBBS just in case.
What a hippocritical society, we claim to be the biggest democracy in the whole wide world, just coz we have the highest number of voters, but what about basic, fundamental right to marry the one I love and to live with dignity. These so called intellectuals such as doctors, thekedars of religion would not say anything about corruption, rape, murder, dowry, molestation, but won't allow two people to love each other. Waah! Kya democracy h.
I don't know when India will realise that we are loosing so many talented people because of this. Nd it is effecting our economy our development directly or indirectly. It's just basic rights. Just allow it.
I wish they didn't have to make all these efforts to just live a common life. Can't imagine as they move forward in life at every step they'll have to put up a fight, why not give the dignity they deserve all at once.
Good days will be ahead for all LGBTQIA it's a slow process until when people will understand about it atleast a proportion of GenZ is educated on this, Well Indian society is regressive and outdated,it's not a cup of tea to change their mindset so soon.
It's been 1 year since this video and still no Marriage equality in India
Astonishing that this kind of quint video doesn't get that much muslim comments like the other contents. The victims of islamophobia always turn their backs when it comes to caste system in muslims in india and lgbtq+ rights.
The right wing in our country oppresses the minorities but the victims are themselves right wing in their own way.
They are far right wings but act as a liberal because it helps them in a certain way. Deep down they are bigots
I agree they are extremely right wing in the cultural and traditional sense, very insular and self-absorbed (religiously speaking). As a liberal, I have always stood for their rights as individuals and will continue to do so but I don't appreciate them turning neo-liberal when it suits them and appropriating cherry picked liberal values to suit their convenience whilst ignoring the rest. I try hard to criticize them respectfully but there are always some Andhbhakts barging in with abuses thinking I'm on their side. It's ridiculous!
Yeah it is a fact some Muslims are right wing as well. Not all though.
I am a Christian and ally of LGBTQ, love is love🏳🌈
Discrimination hurts like a bitch. It cuts me on the inside and poisons my spirit. I have never been able to live in peace and dignity in India. I'm running out of courage to face society and fight homophobia every day.
I’m leaving to Germany so can get married
Bohot sahi 🤣
hope everything works out w you
Yes please leave
Thank you for publishing this, Quint ! Such an important story!
it's not only the law , it's the community ,the society at fault too
We were the country where people could happily explore their sexual orientations. But nowdays people think it's not our culture. It's sad that even in the year of 2021 homophobia exist. But as a genz (2006) I think that our generation can change and I strongly believe that this generation would try to accept LGBTQ+ community as normal. Changes will begin. I'll make change ,we can all make changes by educating people around us. I hope for upcoming future generations we'll make a better & more open minded. society.
With this, how can india boast to be a democratic country?
It's satisfying to see that things like this is started being recognised and people are supported for their choice of marriage at least where normal love marriage is happen to be disaster for the families and society.
I am also planning to move out from this place as soon as possible... I don't wanna live in this pathetic place where u can't live as legal gay couple in the way you want....
A fight of narrow minded ness, ego and made believe religious statements v/s our kids.
India is regressing everyday. We are losing our basic democratic rights. You guys are lucky to have escaped the majoritarian India of today. I expect India to take away the basic rights of all its citizens who don't support the BJP. So we can forget about gay rights..love is criminal in India today. Interfaith, inter caste, etc. India has willingly voted for hate twice already. We are doomed.
What the hell are you talking about 😂😂, it was regressive earlier, LGBQT got legalise few years ago, Adultery got dicriminalised, yes more need to be done, but earlier it was much worse, maybe you didn't have idea of what happened earlier, where people got killed bcz of this.
Bruh homosexuality
was legalised in india in 2018😂 during BJP's rule....what was Congress doing all this time?? Oh sorry,!!!How can they ?? I forgot that they appease minorities and that homosexuality is haraam for them
@@pallavibarman6214 fyi center's the only thing that's delaying the process of passing the law for same sex marriages. And for 377 too lot of drama within the party. But I agree I dont think congress would have had guts to speak against or with this matter if in power. They r ppl pleasers....
@M.Com: Men'sCommission India !#Equality not related to topic but ok 👍
Listen guys just talking in comment box doesn't change the present condition these video clip should be spread out like anything at whole social platform to bring change doesn't have to get violence or to do physical fight just simply we have to spread this message as possible as soon.....guys share this at huge amount🙏🙏🙏
thank you. will share this video
I love the comment section today
Me too. It's rare.
It's actually pathetic that a people have to be at the mercy of others for their human rights.
By allowing gay marriage India can puts itself in front of other Nations as no discrimination Country, no violation against love. A Great Nation with kind mentality.
Only Economic growth can't bring the Nation in top , mentality does a fact too.
We need gay marriage to be legal and recognized . Why double standards ?
@Kaustabh yes
Yess 🙌🙌
@Kaustabh what do u mean by nope 😒? Oh yeah when u have privilege , equality can feel like oppression !
What's double standards in wanting equal rights ? Aal marriages have legal recognition
@@sakshamtyagi9652 no they don't . Check your facts boiii
Any asexuals here? 👀
yoooo homie, I am an ace too :)
Ye section 377 hutaane se ya iski uski permission lene se nahi honewala. Jaise bachho ko studies me male female couples ka knowledge diya jata hai vaise same sex couples ka aur baaki kinnar, transgender sabka knowledge Dena jaruri hai tabhi aage jakar kisiko kisi se permission na Leni pade na he kisi ke saamne khud ko prove karna pade. Aakhir sab bhagwan ne he to banaya hai kyu prove karna Bhai kisiko.🙏
I'm gay.
And I'm in love with s guy who is planning to move Canada. That'll be hard for both of us.
I want to request to our government to allow the same sex marriage.
Yup that's gonna be difficult but i root for you both stay strong! 🌈
@@k4shii_st4r gracias amado.
Please leave
@@user-bj5en7xo8e why you want my boyfriend to leave?
@@ashishkatariya190 You are polluting society
I know it is completely off the beat but they all are super good looking.
This pain is very individual and can't be felt by anyone else, it shatters me from inside when I think of my possible future in India. Hence I restrict myself of thinking about my future at all.
I am gay and Indian.and happy more voices are coming out.more power to my fellow queers.i know india will be a great country where people would mind their own business without hurting others.
The guy name Saatvic was there in a famous indian show called MOUNT EVEREST
Suchi... The Ashutosh guwarigar one? On star Plus?
They said something about a petition... Can we sign it?
Don't worry...India's best lawyers hv already moved to delhi HC 😀😀
Madras HC was super supportive and proactively sensible. I just hope deeply the other courts also have teams of judges and lawyers that r inclusive
Brain drain was /is/will never a problem in India according to shri dr. Kalam so brain drain is not a problem but the acceptance of that section is, because of society. It will take time
For now be happy nd enjoy your life in
No matter how modern India becomes, it's still very much of an old country - Anita Desai
as a queer person, I really hope I can be truly myself in my country someday
It is a very big problem the young people from community are facing a lot of bullying at a early age, moreover we don't have the very basic rights ,makes us think to leave the country because we are not being treated properly and when I say my friends I will leave when I get older they say me anti-national and when I keep a point about anything going in the country I m said tujhe kya tujhe to videsh pasand hai !??? I am somehow forced to leave and then I only have to listen to all this ?
when Saattvik talked about his grandmother’s wish of him lighting the funeral pyre, i just broke down crying, it instantly hit me ho hard. I can only imagine what you might have gone through Saattvik, all my love and condolences for you♥️
Thank you bringing up this topic. What's interesting here is that you have Indians who have everything and don't really have a reason and don't even want migrate to another country but feel they have to because of the basic rights of being legally a couple, living as a couple and even laws for the LGBT community. Hopefully this absolved soon, because it seems these guys would want to come back.
There is still hope
Many of the advocates and activists are working
We must contribute to this cause and make our society better our struggles can make a better path for our children and their children as well
Things really need to change. The amount of struggles that the LGBTQ+ people face is immense. It's just two people trying to live a normal life. They're the same humans as us. They deserve the same rights as anyone else. And in my opinion one of the ways we can improve this situation is by being accepting to everyone despite of their sexuality.
Our constitution needs to include and empower each and every individual ...its high time to bring changes in our constitution
India has a long way to go. It is not easy to change one’s mindset in one generation particularly when the country requires many hundred millions to make a leap…
Well one thing is for sure that it is more of a social problem than administrative because lets be real even if the court passes the law that recognises same sex marriages it won't make much of a difference as you still can't live a normal life cuz the indian masses (conventional, conservative n orthodox citizens ie almost 80 percent populace) are still gonna persecute you.
Now i know that in future the society may become more accepting and less hostile given that Gen Z is very unprejudiced in such matters (thanks to the western media n Netflix)
Exactly the government can only pass laws and maybe enforce them but they can't change the mindset of each and every person. Its just sad ☹
@@Iamdafish sad indeed
Why educated people are gay? Can someone be gay without knowledge of sex? Imagine if we are animal we naturally attracted to female Animal . This is natural. Since human being have got mind so they can think differently in every direction (science,sex etc). So they can make up mind whom they can love. So everyone is free and independent. So we should not judge people.
I am also gay BTW.
Nope buddy
Homosexuality is found in almost 1500 species 🥺
I am asexual 🤐🤐🤐 moving the fuck Outta this society
Lol we still love u... Without any kisses. Just hugs 🤗🤗
@@trevorkhanna5865 wat 😭😭😭 don't lie ,men only sex ,nobody accepts asexuals
@@lotuswolf1518 Awww poor thing I agree tho I'm on Grindr all they talk about is sex and stuff🙄🙄 it can be soo annoying sometimes. But I accept u ☺️ I think u r valid as u r. And remember u have a whole world out there just cuz someone said something won't mean ppl won't be there to stand for u I'll stand for u just give me a holler
@@trevorkhanna5865 aww you're so nice, youve restored my faith in humanity 🙏 , my true friends genuinley don't care if i am queer, they check up on and have always accepted me, I still have abandonment issues
@@YourTrueBro bru 🙏🙏🙏plz
Modiji is busy promoting religion based movies......try another decade
Religious based movies? Have some shame, literally a eye opening movie to learn about the genocide against our people ?
@@am10231 yeah well, under the hood it promotes more violence anyway
@@am10231 i apologise bro is xutiye ko nhi pata h sec 377 modi ke reign me legal hua h
@@am10231 Go away Gobar bhakt. People are sick of your backward ideology.