Redkeep here, btw game actually didn't went as planned. I was supposed to be pocket. 11 Anyway, throughout the game I put barely on food and went all in on wood and gold to mass produce 4 range CAs. Goal was to keep a player pre-occupied. In my case it was MBL. I pretty much decided to stay forever Castle and just being as annoying as possible. 11 Also I forgot to build stable to get bloodlines and explains why CAs dying fast. 11 I picked CA mainly due to hit and run compared to other units.
Old AoE on MSN Zone days; no such thing as spectating or streaming. You had to either co-op where you could have multiple people playing in a 1v1 if they were dishonest about it, or recordings to download which also seem to have gone the way of the dodo bird... those were the best of days.
more mbl stuff would be cool ngl maybe also like hoang or rubenstock or phosphorus or similar, kinda like the t90 legends telling you what to do, that kinda stuff would be cool.
I Love these, keep em coming! IMO if the players pretend that they're noobs but end up not being, you should get a bit of handicap to balance it a little
actually, what if you had a new player / 1k- player tell you what to do ? you would be playing and in a call with em, and he tells you what to do and you just nee to comply could be cool to see how high you could get with the mindset of a low elo and the execution of a top 10 player (k top 10, maybe more 11)
ngl i like mbl's 'fighting spirit', i hate it when my opponent resigns immediately lol, i'd rather be able to play on a bit (you did hold the siege ram push after all, didnt look quite dead in my eyes 11)
Hey Hera. Thanks for your educational content lately. I have a request/tip: eco balance. How do pro's always make sure they are on close to 0 res, it also strikes me that you always seem to have just the res laying around to go for what you want to make. Do you make educated guesses beyond the opening on vil distribution, or do you purely calculate this while playing? One thing I for instance run up against is seeding farms with heavy plow in castle age and just when Im about to be up to imp for a treb/BBC war all my farms need reseeding and I end up having to move singificant parts of my eco to wood or even buy it.
don't forget many do market abuse to fix their eco or get the timings down better. as for the rest, i'll let other players answer, but i'd guess game-sense acquired through experience
when you are so experienced like this player, you know more or less how many vills you need in every recourses to make certain unit, and they always balacing correctly , is the combination of micro and experience. Is awesom
Logically, between you and MBL you should have enough apm to handle 3 players each but the deck is still stacked against you. The other team have a population cap limit of 1200 while you two only have 400. They can generate resources and production of units multiple times faster. That's not to mention that they have 6 team bonuses stacking each other if they are not the same faction. But it was fun to watch :)
I'm pretty sure Hera/MBL can beat them 1v3. Some of the micro between two of the best micro players in the world was incredible. This play at 22:50 was next level I've never seen anything like that before.
So I'll say it again, it would be really neat if in these 2v5, 2v6 games if there was a map scrip that gave Heras team a 2 tc start, and the opponents team had a normal arabia start. because even if you kill 10 vils from someone in early feudal, they have 3 times your TCs, which means that they have 3 times the eco. If Hera and MBL had 2 tcs to start, then its 4 TC vs 6, much more manageable without falling down an eco hole to your opponents.
Nice game! It was entertaining, but to be honest it would have been cooler and more interesting to see a more fair game. When facing 1100+ players you gotta respect that they are actually far from beginners. By looking at the elo before the game it was clear that there would be little chance to win this. Sorry if it sounds a little negative, but want to give honest constructive feedback :) Keep up the great work Hera, I always look forward to see your daily videos.
heya hera, just dropping in to tell you to play the 'fake allies' gamemode more (the last vid on vipers channel where u 2v2 and every 5m you switch team) modes like 'wonder race' or starting as allies and backstabbing each other with attack ground units (on hybrid maps ideally) can be SO much fun 11 its very unconventional but imo, you should try it out (maybe a 1v2 wonder race or sth along the lines ?
you should do a 1v5 or something like that, but you and someone else controls the same color, so at first theres not much to do but then one can do military and the other does eco or something like that
That was fun. But man Hera, you gotta have these guys submit their elo pre-match so you don't get 1400s coming in and making it impossible to win. Still entertaining, but it's more fun when there's a chance y'all can win.
I'd argue that the initial strat of "gray and purple are the better players" (so target them) is a lesser strat to dominating the lesser players first and then letting the two 1500 ELO people fail at 2v2 against two of the best in the game. But I get that wolfing down the "noobies" isn't a welcome part of the game's culture. So, being nice means these types of matches will always be impossible but being ruthless basically guarantees wins.
seeing your playthrough for the first time .. damn.. you are blazing fast. I have only watched aoe cast from Cast of empires so didnt know how fast pro players are at managing the gameplay..
At the start of Hidden Cup, he was in the top 3 players if I recall well, but took a step back in the passed years. He's back casting full time now. He's in Hera's last team too (Aftermath).
yea i was saying this kinda ironically, hoping mbl would somehow find this comment section 11 i mostly know em from t90 and other videos for his crazy strats, raging and monk-control. kinda funny how he's currently the highest elo player tho 11@@TitiPapillon
i was waiting a game vs some 14xx 15xx come on those guys are not considered intermediate, those guys as far as i know they might be started the game 2 weeks ago
You forgot about your game with Yo ! This is the fourth time you did 2v6, not third. Didn't DauT make fun of your plan of going scouts in Feudal age when you played with him? You kill a few villagers from one or two players... and then there are another four players booming untouched. You probably need to think of the purpose of Feudal age military being to distract and scout, not to do serious damage. You should think of trading four scouts for six villagers as a bad trade, not a good one, when 2v6.
Redkeep here, btw game actually didn't went as planned. I was supposed to be pocket. 11
Anyway, throughout the game I put barely on food and went all in on wood and gold to mass produce 4 range CAs. Goal was to keep a player pre-occupied. In my case it was MBL. I pretty much decided to stay forever Castle and just being as annoying as possible. 11
Also I forgot to build stable to get bloodlines and explains why CAs dying fast. 11
I picked CA mainly due to hit and run compared to other units.
insane play at 23:00
I really like your team with MbL this guy is hilarious
Embee
Want to see a 2v5 coop version. Would be awesome to watch
Old AoE on MSN Zone days; no such thing as spectating or streaming. You had to either co-op where you could have multiple people playing in a 1v1 if they were dishonest about it, or recordings to download which also seem to have gone the way of the dodo bird... those were the best of days.
more mbl stuff would be cool ngl
maybe also like hoang or rubenstock or phosphorus or similar, kinda like the t90 legends telling you what to do, that kinda stuff would be cool.
11 "he might be going hun longsword. That is so disrespectful i love it" 111111
It's amazing, how Hera and MbL were having _so much _*_fun!_*
I Love these, keep em coming! IMO if the players pretend that they're noobs but end up not being, you should get a bit of handicap to balance it a little
yes
Hera: We can call it
MBL:Don't calll it, don't call it
Hera looks at his base being destroyed by tons of siege rams, halbs and knights
actually, what if you had a new player / 1k- player tell you what to do ? you would be playing and in a call with em, and he tells you what to do and you just nee to comply
could be cool to see how high you could get with the mindset of a low elo and the execution of a top 10 player (k top 10, maybe more 11)
Tbh that sounds cool lol
29 wasn't trash-talking, he was just very very stoned 11 -- Emjayen.
@hera it was truly amazing playing with you. I was fangirling :)
Playing stoned against mBL and Hera is basically trash talking 11
@B619 11 no trash talking or disrespect was intended. I did loose my scout to MBL's savage quick walls. Could have prevented that..
@@RohanManohar haha ya I was jk
really entertaining! Always love the 1vX and 2vX games, but this was one of my favourites :)
Love these vids! Keep them coming
ngl i like mbl's 'fighting spirit', i hate it when my opponent resigns immediately lol, i'd rather be able to play on a bit (you did hold the siege ram push after all, didnt look quite dead in my eyes 11)
Tbh only one of us was above 1200
1100 is still above average and good lol@@RohanManohar
@@xavierpironier59 that's true. Looking forward to a 4v4 :D
The castle made him immune because it made you the easier target.
yeah, Aimpot here, we all went for Hera because the castle + walls from MbL made it impossible to actually get damage there.
Incredible game, insane play by purple
hehe i am Friend_Zoned ...gg was fun
I want to play against him. How do I join?
Hey Hera. Thanks for your educational content lately.
I have a request/tip: eco balance. How do pro's always make sure they are on close to 0 res, it also strikes me that you always seem to have just the res laying around to go for what you want to make. Do you make educated guesses beyond the opening on vil distribution, or do you purely calculate this while playing?
One thing I for instance run up against is seeding farms with heavy plow in castle age and just when Im about to be up to imp for a treb/BBC war all my farms need reseeding and I end up having to move singificant parts of my eco to wood or even buy it.
don't forget many do market abuse to fix their eco or get the timings down better. as for the rest, i'll let other players answer, but i'd guess game-sense acquired through experience
when you are so experienced like this player, you know more or less how many vills you need in every recourses to make certain unit, and they always balacing correctly , is the combination of micro and experience. Is awesom
need more of this for sure :D
i love this man really its soo funny thx i swear thx
i reckon y'all win the 2v6 against them if they are not 1k+ but around 1k (1k+ is WAY more likely to play meta)
Logically, between you and MBL you should have enough apm to handle 3 players each but the deck is still stacked against you. The other team have a population cap limit of 1200 while you two only have 400. They can generate resources and production of units multiple times faster. That's not to mention that they have 6 team bonuses stacking each other if they are not the same faction. But it was fun to watch :)
Good point about the team bonuses. I forgot about that
I'm pretty sure Hera/MBL can beat them 1v3. Some of the micro between two of the best micro players in the world was incredible. This play at 22:50 was next level I've never seen anything like that before.
I forgot about team bonus, that just makes your wins even more impressive.
So I'll say it again, it would be really neat if in these 2v5, 2v6 games if there was a map scrip that gave Heras team a 2 tc start, and the opponents team had a normal arabia start. because even if you kill 10 vils from someone in early feudal, they have 3 times your TCs, which means that they have 3 times the eco. If Hera and MBL had 2 tcs to start, then its 4 TC vs 6, much more manageable without falling down an eco hole to your opponents.
That was chaos lol. I love it
Nice game! It was entertaining, but to be honest it would have been cooler and more interesting to see a more fair game. When facing 1100+ players you gotta respect that they are actually far from beginners. By looking at the elo before the game it was clear that there would be little chance to win this. Sorry if it sounds a little negative, but want to give honest constructive feedback :) Keep up the great work Hera, I always look forward to see your daily videos.
This was brutal but a great watch haha!
Hera: Spear is a defensive unit...
MBL: ...
Clearly Daut is the true #1 player, since he's the only one to win one of these.
Hera wants to attack early with scouts but is instantly countered by spears and could be in castle with MBL massing mangudai to actually do damage
hera what happened to your mic? you used to sound really crisp, now theres a hiss. Amazing content though keep it up !
Love to watch mbl
heya hera, just dropping in to tell you to play the 'fake allies' gamemode more (the last vid on vipers channel where u 2v2 and every 5m you switch team)
modes like 'wonder race' or starting as allies and backstabbing each other with attack ground units (on hybrid maps ideally) can be SO much fun 11
its very unconventional but imo, you should try it out (maybe a 1v2 wonder race or sth along the lines ?
Do this but with 130 percent handicap
Hera lesrning the first rule of AOE lobby games. Everyone is a "noob". The definiteion however differs greatly!
Please do more 2 pros v others so cool to see the teamwork
Anyone else watching this at 0.5 speed to actually capture the clicks Hera performs?
Es épico, mis amigos y yo hicimos un 5v3 y se arma muy bien el juego, excelente hera gg
you should do a 1v5 or something like that, but you and someone else controls the same color, so at first theres not much to do but then one can do military and the other does eco or something like that
Add TheViper and 3v6 the same team. It will be balanced
that's what I was telling the team 11
este señor es un ser superior.
Always enjoy the match ups versus mid level players like myself. 👍🏻
That was fun. But man Hera, you gotta have these guys submit their elo pre-match so you don't get 1400s coming in and making it impossible to win. Still entertaining, but it's more fun when there's a chance y'all can win.
Next challenge: Am I able to reach Imperial Age with 2 vs 6 players?!
Mbie's said it all: " uhm Hera, dont you think these 2 v 6 is overdoing it a little, may be..."
Id like to see the replay of this
I love how you still have so much fun even when you lose 😅
U should do one of these on Metropolis, make it hard on them by everyone having 3 TCs.
I'd argue that the initial strat of "gray and purple are the better players" (so target them) is a lesser strat to dominating the lesser players first and then letting the two 1500 ELO people fail at 2v2 against two of the best in the game. But I get that wolfing down the "noobies" isn't a welcome part of the game's culture. So, being nice means these types of matches will always be impossible but being ruthless basically guarantees wins.
youtried to trap him or what? ....he did get trapped....hahaha savage! lol
This is an impossible game, no way any 2 players on Earth can defeat these odds.
should be like 5k rating total vs 10k total rating ( as long as it adds up to 10k)
seeing your playthrough for the first time .. damn.. you are blazing fast.
I have only watched aoe cast from Cast of empires so didnt know how fast pro players are at managing the gameplay..
jesus how did you guys survive for so long
6 players... all fast feudal then vill rush?
If they block the wood it is gg fast
17 vil feudal is crazy
mongols, 14 is possible as well
Defensive castles came in too late.
28:00 or you are underestimating 1000er elo players:D
fun game 😸
Do it again vs 6 players below 1000 elo, and I belive you can win.
you need 2 pros+a noob vs 5 noobs
You pair should still be a team
6v2 "man these guys are insane" bro 2 guys can be flicking their taint all game and their team will still have twice the man power
Who's MBL ?
At the start of Hidden Cup, he was in the top 3 players if I recall well, but took a step back in the passed years. He's back casting full time now. He's in Hera's last team too (Aftermath).
yea i was saying this kinda ironically, hoping mbl would somehow find this comment section 11
i mostly know em from t90 and other videos for his crazy strats, raging and monk-control.
kinda funny how he's currently the highest elo player tho 11@@TitiPapillon
Major League Baseball
should have just build the castle at home...
th-cam.com/video/MtW_jjNQbZE/w-d-xo.html this part had me CRACKING UP! XD "WHERE'S MY ARMY?! OH THEY R HERE....U SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME!" LMAO
i was waiting a game vs some 14xx 15xx come on those guys are not considered intermediate, those guys as far as i know they might be started the game 2 weeks ago
MBL is the best!! bring him again❤❤
just rematch for free, and give MbL and Hera 200% handicap
Gg
Hera: i switched teams!
Roxy: wut🤨😦
You forgot about your game with Yo ! This is the fourth time you did 2v6, not third.
Didn't DauT make fun of your plan of going scouts in Feudal age when you played with him? You kill a few villagers from one or two players... and then there are another four players booming untouched. You probably need to think of the purpose of Feudal age military being to distract and scout, not to do serious damage. You should think of trading four scouts for six villagers as a bad trade, not a good one, when 2v6.
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Enemy team are noobs maybe new to game not intermediate 😂😂😂