This is a common sound for the GEMA "World engine" some manufacturers added hydrolic valves to quiet the engine. KIA said " we don't care " and left it standard.
I had the same problem. I don't believe that the recommended oil is the best in certain climates and judging by the amount of people sharing the same experiences, I believe it even more. Once the engine starts moving and the oil gets warm enough it finally makes it up to the valves and quiets the "tapping" noise. I threw in some Lucas oil treatment with my oil change and it worked for me. I did try motor honey, but it was too thick for cold mornings and it actually took longer for the tapping to go away, so I don't recommend it. I'd say either Lucas or Royal Purple. Valve slapping is not good and over time it will cost you unless it is prevented.
Sounds like timing chain tensioner. It uses oil pressure to work. so when you rev it up it is applying force on the chain but it’s week so when the RPMs are low it can’t do it’s job. Pull the valve cover and check chain tension
I have a 2012 forte with the same noise. It sounds horrible but it isn't lethal. It's just piston slap. These engines are notorious for this, especially when cold. It's not gonna cause your engine to fail tho. Just make sure you use genuine Kia/Hyundai oil filters, they have a special valve in them that shuts flow to the filter off when cold.
Same issue here, 101k miles. I got mine to sound a LOT better by putting Schaefers Moly E.P. in it. It coats the walls of the engine and quiets it down quite a bit. I'll put a before and after video on my page. I have no doubts I will get my Kia to at least 175+.
I have a 2012 Kia forte koup with the same noise and I now have 165 thousand plus miles on mine and still kicking so fuck it drive till the wheels fall off
Mine has been making that noise for about 40K miles, now have 88k on a 2012. I figure if it hasn't gotten worse and didn't blow up it's probably normal. Also, every other Kia Forte between 2010-2012 or so like this I've heard running sounds like this.
So if I still drive like this my engine won’t go out ? Because once I hit 40mph when I’m driving the noise go away . Then I could be at a stop the noise start back going
@@camillemcknight212 I would say you would be good. I have a 2010 Kia Forte always had that knocking sound since I got it and I have drove it about 30,000 miles no issues
Yeah generally you don't have to worry about the timing chain very much, but the guide for the timing chain (I guess, from my research) is kind of one of the issues but generally isn't too big of a deal.. Also, you can do some lifter adjustments as is needed but if it's running smooth, the mileage is good, the oil is clean, all that good stuff. Then it'll probably be alright for quite a while. Naturally, you want to make sure that you're getting oil to the top end, lol, but yeah, I've been trying to decide what I want to do with mine and I'm probably just going to pop the valve cover and do some measurements. I have not looked for a follow-up video but if you did find a solution, definitely post a reply pin a comment at the top, etc. 😊
My 2010 Forte Ex makes tapping/ banging noise until warm. I believe it is either the timing tensioner or piston slap. Either way its time to pay it off and get rid of it.
My wife had this on her 2014 Kia forte with 40k on it. There was a recall on optimas about having metal scraps in the engine blocks. Long story short kia replaced the engine block and components, took about 3 months. Give Kia hell!
My car did the same thing, not on recall... Had to replace the engine myself and now it's making the same noise... Is there anyway way can get Kia to recall it?
The exact same noise on my 2010 Forte. It's just under 113k. I've been hearing it since it hit 86k and I had it in KIA multiple times since, because of it. They keep telling me it's normal to hear it during cold starts and more predominant during winter (midwest native). So far, nothing is wrong with my car (fingers crossed). It runs and drives fine... just the noise after start up.
My 2010 Kia SX does the exact same thing. Sounds like a bomb that's ready to explode a ticks. But it's been running strong and has 160,000 on it now and still going
My 2010 forte does this too, has 135,000 miles on it, got it used. Sounds like its going to come apart or something lol. I used to have a saturn vue that made noise and it was the timing chain and tensioner. I had to take my kia to the dealership because it was having weird electrical issues. They had it for the whole day and had trouble duplicating the problems. They ended up replacing the alternator. While it was there I had the oil changed and what not and I asked them about the noise. They said it is pretty normal for this car. It just has a noisy engine is all. I was worried it had some sort serious internal issue and they said nope, it was fine. It is just the design of the engine. Not going to lie it still scares the crap out of me and as soon as I can get out of this loan I am going to trade it in on something different.
Can you hear the noise in the cabin? That ticking noise. I have a Ceed 1.4, similar engine more or less. I have the valves adjusted, changed the chain and the noise is still there.
This sound bothered me too. In south africa where I'm from. Our temps reach about 35'C_40. Checked my manual and found out the oil spec for my car 20W_50. With my car at cold start I leave it idling to the point when the revs goes down to 1000rpm and then drive. 5-10minutes driving it the noise is away. Figured it was common. Oh I drive a 2012 kia cerato(forte) 2.0SX.
I have 2012 kia forte with same issue, tried lucas oil stabelizer and did not seem to help. I have had the issue since I bought the car new, but I think its getting worse, and worried Itll eventually fail.
Yes, Everybody. ..it is the timing chain getting worn, use a more heavier grade oil, like 10w30, or even better, strait 30w, the noise will not completely go silent, but will quiet it down by allot. Guys one thing to remember, is, if your odometer is showing high milage, well, don't forget about what is known as "invisible miles" from the vehicle sitting and idling, is.. like at drive through, or stop lights, or sitting running making you-tube video's...etc ...etc, That actually will put a strain on the engine to properly keep all moving parts lubricated within pressure specifics. Nothing wrong with engine other then it is getting worn down, they don't stay new forever.
I don't think that the noise goes away when the engine is revved. Sounds to me like revving the engine doesn't affect it but the sound gets drowned out by the sound of the revving engine. My car started doing this after getting an oil change at a quick lube shop. I like the suggestion that the wrong filter may have been installed at that time. Just a side note - today sitting in traffic I decided to turn my interior fan on. When I did, the radiator fan cut in and the chugging/ticking noise got louder. Made me consider that the noise may be caused by a problem with the belt system. Could that make sense?
Have a 2010 and just yesterday, the knocking noise got real bad. My mechanic suggested using Lucas Oil Stabilizer. Got Oil changed today and put in some Lucas and I already hear a bit of a difference. My car has 188,000 km on it
Your timing chain is stretched since it only dose on idle. As when you give it a revs it put tension on your chain and noise disappear. Easy way to tell remove your cam cover and have a look
@@jeyramirez5525 bearing failure, Rod knock. Haven’t you received The recall notice from Hyundai/Kia? Massive recall on 2010-2015 sonata/optima/sorento etc.. They extended the warranty to lifetime and if you have kept up with scheduled maintenance of your car by law they have to replace the engine. Just google the recall and you’ll see it.
Brother i have the same problem kia sportage 2017, i have read in forums that is a lubricating problem, in the camshaft, kia put a one wway valve in oil filter. i recommend you use the kia oil filter. My car is repairing now in the dealer by warranty.
My 2010 with same engine, makes exactly same sound. It started around 50 k miles, and it’s at 103 k now and still sounds the same. I’m told when these engines were built, they were not designed with the piston skirts to short, and wobble around a little. Strange thing is it don’t use any oil between 6,000 mile oil changes. Yes people will say that’s to many miles between changes, however the new oil produced can more than take it and more miles. I have work on car since 1978. I guess I’ll drive my Kia, till it’s ready for new engine
Mine sounds same. Just not quite as loud. The ticking is like that in all these Kia 2.0 motors. No worries I beat the shit out of mine now over a year, and still running strong! Still Ticking like a watch also!
i have a 2010 sx sedan ive read this on some kia forums: the Kia Oil filter has an anti drain back valve built into the oil filter. Most high end oil filters also have this feature but not all aftermarket filters have this feature. Kia has found that engines with filters without the valve develop dry bearing start failures and destroy the bearing surfaces.
My advice would be to just do your regular oil changes every 5-6k or however long it takes to get dark. Also, if having a rough start where the car misfires until it stalls when you don't give it gas, try replacing the idle sensor👍🏼
Replace the map sensor, Pcv valve as well as throw a bottle of cat cleaner in the tank. That’s what I did. Also put some sea foam high mileage in the oil fill. Fixed it right up
I got same problem, not quite that loud, but car runs strong. It's my daily beater to work and back. Also beat the crap out of it on weekends! Fun little car! I use 10/30 Castrol or Mobile one. It helps quite it down some, but it's common in all the kias
@@ronb9901 I just changed it last week. I use Mobile I used 5 /20 runs great just that tapping noise. Changed plugs, coils, , air filter and still ticking....
I was worried it may be my motor is bad. So that fixed your rattling huh? Good deal! If you suggest it could be anything else that can cause the rattling noise please let me know! Thanks ☺
Our 2011 Kia Forte EX with the 2.0 sounds the same. Our engine light was on for years due to that manifold issue here recently it went out. But we still have the knocking noise, it sounds as if the engine is low on oil or something. Ours has 141,000 miles on it.
@@tiararagin6330 Our Kia has 151k miles on it now and its still knocking, we dont have the money to take it to Kia for diagnosis or repair so we have just been driving it like this. The only difference now is the transmission jerks when shifting from 5th gear down to 4th when climbing a hill. At least this has been confirmed by manually shifting the transmission as for the knock its still knockin
The ticking is still there on my 2010 Kia Forte ex, 137,000 miles but I ended heaving to replace my exhaust manifold which had cracked on the back side right under the sensor pin which a friend said was caused by the poor design and weight of the catalyst? Or exhaust pipe? Putting pressure on the manifold every time you'll hit a bump or move in general. Sorry not an expert at all lol but point being! Is my car is much much quieter! Like when I first bought her at 100,000 miles. Hope this helps!
I don't have a kia..., I have a 2010 chevy malibu and mine only does it when it's cold outside and then once it warms up it gets quiet. but I have noticed it's doing it a lot more now. with almost 117,000 miles on it I think it's about time to trade it lol
So with all the comments saying they all experience this myself included. would you say this is a Kia issue and or could be considered normal wear of the engine? . idk why Kia and Hyundai engines sound like they'll just fall apart it's scary .. so far my 2010 Kia forte ex is alright I just got it with 72,235 miles for $2,500 I think I made a good decision I hope
Try taking out the pcv valve and running without it for a minute - it sounds like the pcv rattling, its at the top on the top right of the engine facing forwards
165k with my forte 2012 I really don't mind the noise The noise goes away after warmup for me Still rolling I drive 160miles working days I sleep in my car 3 times a week leaving the car on overnight for a/c Still running Just driving it to the ground
I also have the same car, I had the same problem, the dealership blamed a bad oil filter, they changed it and sent me on my way; before my next oil change was due my motor had blown. they had to replace it for free under my warranty.
Weird, have had mine since October of 2009.....the engine sounded like this from the start. Still sounds like it when cold. The only thing I have had to replace is the front struts and links
Just commen kia tick not lethal unless it's more of a knock a bit of sea foam in gas and the oil 400km before you change your oil to get it a little less noisy but other then that they all tick slightly
I have the same ticking, and i think its the solid shims kia used for this engine. U need to readjust that every 100k km or so, i read it in the manual iirc. Or use better oil
I have a 2011 kia forte ex with only 60,000 miles and it is making this noise as of a week ago. When the car is warm it either stops completely or is quieter. It is no longer on warranty and Kia says there is nothing they can do but replace the whole engine. My main concern is if it is safe to drive long distances...
Update everyone, I have this sound in my 2015 1.6 kia Cerato/ forte. I tried to shake all of the pulleys and I found out that my idler pulley has alot of play. even when I try to shake it a bit it makes the same ticking noise. Ill change that pulley as well as the tensioner pulley too since it has 120k+ km on it and update you guys soon.
I just bought it a few months ago. I got it a 4 door 2.0L 5 speed stick. 75,000 km for like 5,000 . I know I over paid. But I just need to know what f I need to worry about this rattle.
I have a 2012 Kia forte with the 2.0, same issue. It is usually a horrible case of piston slap. From what I've seen, it isn't super lethal, but then again, from all of Kia/Hyundai's recalls lately. I wouldn't be surprised if it was lethal. I will never purchase another Kia/Hyundai. Their engine reliability is non existent.
Bought my 2010 Kia Forte koup with 110k with the ticking. Put 10,000 miles on it and is still fine. Put the pedal to the floor and hasn’t gone out on me yet!
I also have a 2010 KIA Forte and it sounds like a tank. and it only has 88,000 miles. I am thinking about trading it, but I really like this car. any Ideas how to fix it other than a new engine.
Judging by comments, if you were into mechanics you could replace the rod bearings (which cause the piston to touch the side of the cylinder) and replace the oil pump with a higher pressure one to prevent them wearing out again. Assuming it's the rod bearings, but if it sounds like a tank, well...
I have a 2012 kia sportage lx. It does the same thing. It does seem to lessen the first 10 or so minutes of driving but I drive 37 one way for work. Hiway miles. And by the time I get home the ticking get loud again. I feel embarrassed when at a stop light because it sounds like a diesel and can only imagine some people hear it look and see its not a diesel and are thinking the motor is about to blow. It's only four years old with 88,000 miles on it. I will try the suggestions and hopefully report back.
Omg my girl has a 2014 Kia forte and the shit sounds like it’s about to blow but runs fine I don’t get it she’s embarrassed at times because the shit is just loud
guys.. guys.. hold on your horses. I have used friction reducers as oil additive and the noise is gone... really. EZI or Liquimoly Ceratech are fine at every oil change. I tried using oil from different manufacturers only and had this noise. it seems that the oil only is not capable of eleminating the nose and had to add an additive. hope you try and tell us the results. kia forte 1.6 l 2010. 140,000 Km
SAME HERE! I use Full synthetic 5w-30 and Schaefers Moly E.P. in mine, sound is virtually gone, just a small amount of pinging. Also, ALWAYS use a Kia/Hyundai oil filter in this car, the filters have a thermostat in them to prevent oil from flowing through the filter while cold (weak oil pumps) Edit: My engine is the 2.0, the 2.4s have issues with spinning bearings, the 2.0 suffers from the notorious but much less deadly piston slap.
This is all so interesting as my 2010 forte is so noisy!! With 125,000 miles on it, I’m afraid it’s going to implode! I may try an additive as that seems logical!! Thank you!
@@julieshaunnessey1737 Mine now is 220,000 km on it. 1.6l. without any problems until now. But at that stage in engine life you have to do some maintenance other than oil change and add additives. You have to remove the air manifold and clean/scrub the dirt and sludge out of the four intakes valves. You may need to do the same for the exhaust as well. Change the timing chain and gears running on them. In addition to the spring loaded on it. This may restore the engine sound and do better fuel consumption. Currently i am using 5-w30 bizol G+. It is a German oil proven high quality and performance with me.
Sea foam fuel, air intake, and oil treatment. The gdi engine directs the gas past the valves. The gasoline is now never cleaning the valves and they tend to built up carbon. Cured my 2013 Kia Rio and the 2010 Kia Forte koup of all noise.
Our 2012 Kia Forte EX 4 door just went over 100k miles and out of the blue the engine started making the same noise. Kias warranty dept gave us a claim number to give the dealership but if the dealership determines they arent going to cover it we are on the hook for parts and labor. Any ideas on how to get them to cover it without paying out of pocket?
Try purchasing one of those extended car warranties through a 3rd party. That's what we did, we paid for a few months and then went to the kia dealer and had them go through the engine because we have that same knocking noise. The only thing we paid was the 500 dollar deductible. Just don't tell the company you get the warranty from that its making noise before you get the warranty
William: the Mobil 5w-20 full synth (gold cap) did help some, in quieting the knock, but it still has it. It seems to go away when the engine heats up. My 1995 Monte Carlo (3.1 v-6) did the same thing. And it was never an issue. So, I'm just going with it for now.
Sounds like timing job is needed. needs oil cycling to the top better. Probably not getting full stroke. Your tail pipe might be dark inside with soot. I wouldnt touch it until a professional mechanic can help you out. Good luck man.
Hey guys Yeah mine is making the same noise and I notice he gets a lot quieter once it’s warm or hot especially and when I Revit up it goes away but I’m trying to sell the vehicle so explaining that to the person is trying to buy is a lot different
Same here! I bought my 2010 kia forte and from the research my parents did, the info we got was that since its an older car, it just makes that noise and you cant do anything about the noise. Apparently from 2014 and down kia cars ( and Hyundei I believe), it makes that noise
This is a common sound for the GEMA "World engine" some manufacturers added hydrolic valves to quiet the engine. KIA said " we don't care " and left it standard.
My 2014 Kia Forte makes this sound. It’s been making this sound for at least 60k miles. My car runs like new-running at 250,000 miles.
I had the same problem. I don't believe that the recommended oil is the best in certain climates and judging by the amount of people sharing the same experiences, I believe it even more. Once the engine starts moving and the oil gets warm enough it finally makes it up to the valves and quiets the "tapping" noise. I threw in some Lucas oil treatment with my oil change and it worked for me. I did try motor honey, but it was too thick for cold mornings and it actually took longer for the tapping to go away, so I don't recommend it. I'd say either Lucas or Royal Purple. Valve slapping is not good and over time it will cost you unless it is prevented.
Sounds like timing chain tensioner. It uses oil pressure to work. so when you rev it up it is applying force on the chain but it’s week so when the RPMs are low it can’t do it’s job. Pull the valve cover and check chain tension
I've had the noise since the 2nd year around 25,000 miles. At 87,000 and no issues just noisy.
I have a 2012 forte with the same noise. It sounds horrible but it isn't lethal. It's just piston slap. These engines are notorious for this, especially when cold. It's not gonna cause your engine to fail tho. Just make sure you use genuine Kia/Hyundai oil filters, they have a special valve in them that shuts flow to the filter off when cold.
Piston slap.... Thank you
Same issue here, 101k miles. I got mine to sound a LOT better by putting Schaefers Moly E.P. in it. It coats the walls of the engine and quiets it down quite a bit. I'll put a before and after video on my page. I have no doubts I will get my Kia to at least 175+.
I have a 2012 Kia forte koup with the same noise and I now have 165 thousand plus miles on mine and still kicking so fuck it drive till the wheels fall off
How your car now?
@@minoxidilbeard9344 lol
@@WolveZ_OP im just asking buddy
I have the same car as u but mines Is an EX and it does the same thing but wit only 159960 miles on it…How did u get it to stop
@@samonezoe1020 I never did get it to stop but when you go get you're oil changed try putting in a court of Lucas oil stabilizer it seemed to help
I have the same exact car and mine just recently started doing that as well. Any word on what it was/is?
I have the same noise in my 2010 Forte and it has 209,000 miles on it. Although the noise has increased a little.
Mine has been making that noise for about 40K miles, now have 88k on a 2012. I figure if it hasn't gotten worse and didn't blow up it's probably normal. Also, every other Kia Forte between 2010-2012 or so like this I've heard running sounds like this.
So if I still drive like this my engine won’t go out ? Because once I hit 40mph when I’m driving the noise go away . Then I could be at a stop the noise start back going
How is it doing now? I got a 2010 Kia Forte. It has always had a ticking sound since I got it but I have drove it 30,000 miles now no issues
@@camillemcknight212 I would say you would be good. I have a 2010 Kia Forte always had that knocking sound since I got it and I have drove it about 30,000 miles no issues
@@camillemcknight212 How is your car doing now?
Yeah generally you don't have to worry about the timing chain very much, but the guide for the timing chain (I guess, from my research) is kind of one of the issues but generally isn't too big of a deal..
Also, you can do some lifter adjustments as is needed but if it's running smooth, the mileage is good, the oil is clean, all that good stuff. Then it'll probably be alright for quite a while.
Naturally, you want to make sure that you're getting oil to the top end, lol, but yeah, I've been trying to decide what I want to do with mine and I'm probably just going to pop the valve cover and do some measurements.
I have not looked for a follow-up video but if you did find a solution, definitely post a reply pin a comment at the top, etc. 😊
I have exactly same noise of my 2010 kia forte
My 2010 Kia does that and I have roughly 250,000 miles on mine still runs fine and has same power as it did when I got it
My 2010 Forte Ex makes tapping/ banging noise until warm. I believe it is either the timing tensioner or piston slap. Either way its time to pay it off and get rid of it.
My wife had this on her 2014 Kia forte with 40k on it. There was a recall on optimas about having metal scraps in the engine blocks.
Long story short kia replaced the engine block and components, took about 3 months. Give Kia hell!
My car did the same thing, not on recall... Had to replace the engine myself and now it's making the same noise... Is there anyway way can get Kia to recall it?
The exact same noise on my 2010 Forte. It's just under 113k. I've been hearing it since it hit 86k and I had it in KIA multiple times since, because of it. They keep telling me it's normal to hear it during cold starts and more predominant during winter (midwest native). So far, nothing is wrong with my car (fingers crossed). It runs and drives fine... just the noise after start up.
Did your kia gave any trouble?
My car does the same thing I have a 2011 over 100,000
It's also happening in my parents 2011 Forte hatch with 140k
My 2010 Kia SX does the exact same thing. Sounds like a bomb that's ready to explode a ticks. But it's been running strong and has 160,000 on it now and still going
my 2010 Forte does the exact same thing since last year currently has 152000 Km on it now .
Same issue here. Have you fixed the issue? TIA
My 2010 forte does this too, has 135,000 miles on it, got it used. Sounds like its going to come apart or something lol. I used to have a saturn vue that made noise and it was the timing chain and tensioner. I had to take my kia to the dealership because it was having weird electrical issues. They had it for the whole day and had trouble duplicating the problems. They ended up replacing the alternator. While it was there I had the oil changed and what not and I asked them about the noise. They said it is pretty normal for this car. It just has a noisy engine is all. I was worried it had some sort serious internal issue and they said nope, it was fine. It is just the design of the engine. Not going to lie it still scares the crap out of me and as soon as I can get out of this loan I am going to trade it in on something different.
Can you hear the noise in the cabin? That ticking noise. I have a Ceed 1.4, similar engine more or less. I have the valves adjusted, changed the chain and the noise is still there.
This sound bothered me too. In south africa where I'm from. Our temps reach about 35'C_40. Checked my manual and found out the oil spec for my car 20W_50. With my car at cold start I leave it idling to the point when the revs goes down to 1000rpm and then drive. 5-10minutes driving it the noise is away. Figured it was common. Oh I drive a 2012 kia cerato(forte) 2.0SX.
Are you sure about the Oil Viscosity Specification (i.e. 20W 50)? I know the 2010 - 2013 Kia Cerato/Fortes recommend 5W20 or 5W30
Hi ,I have the same problem too . Can I know you how you soft the noise ?
I have 2012 kia forte with same issue, tried lucas oil stabelizer and did not seem to help. I have had the issue since I bought the car new, but I think its getting worse, and worried Itll eventually fail.
thanks for not providing no info, did you try the dealership ?
It can be the Fuel pump cam follewer, there’s a little cylinder that has a bearing that can ware out , I would check that.
That only for gdi engine
My 2009 optima is doing this same thing now. What was it?
No knocking on acceleration and revs that means nothing to worry about.
Yes, Everybody. ..it is the timing chain getting worn, use a more heavier grade oil, like 10w30, or even better, strait 30w, the noise will not completely go silent, but will quiet it down by allot.
Guys one thing to remember, is, if your odometer is showing high milage, well, don't forget about what is known as "invisible miles" from the vehicle sitting and idling, is.. like at drive through, or stop lights, or sitting running making you-tube video's...etc ...etc, That actually will put a strain on the engine to properly keep all moving parts lubricated within pressure specifics.
Nothing wrong with engine other then it is getting worn down, they don't stay new forever.
The piston is knocking just happened to me. It blew didn’t it?
I don't think that the noise goes away when the engine is revved. Sounds to me like revving the engine doesn't affect it but the sound gets drowned out by the sound of the revving engine.
My car started doing this after getting an oil change at a quick lube shop. I like the suggestion that the wrong filter may have been installed at that time.
Just a side note - today sitting in traffic I decided to turn my interior fan on. When I did, the radiator fan cut in and the chugging/ticking noise got louder. Made me consider that the noise may be caused by a problem with the belt system. Could that make sense?
Sounds like a shot fan motor bearing, if it is that, then changing the fan motor shud do the job
That's the timing chain smacking against the tensioner
Have a 2010 and just yesterday, the knocking noise got real bad. My mechanic suggested using Lucas Oil Stabilizer. Got Oil changed today and put in some Lucas and I already hear a bit of a difference. My car has 188,000 km on it
I think that's just imagination.
Did you ever figure out the source of the noise?
Your timing chain is stretched since it only dose on idle. As when you give it a revs it put tension on your chain and noise disappear. Easy way to tell remove your cam cover and have a look
oh i'm late but hopefully you reply , mine sounds the same . however when i rev it , the sound is still there .. what could that be
same exact engine too
@@jeyramirez5525 bearing failure, Rod knock. Haven’t you received The recall notice from Hyundai/Kia? Massive recall on 2010-2015 sonata/optima/sorento etc.. They extended the warranty to lifetime and if you have kept up with scheduled maintenance of your car by law they have to replace the engine. Just google the recall and you’ll see it.
@@6atlantis yes there was a recall and they just wrote it off and put me in a new car thank you for your reply !
@@6atlantis is the recall still in effect?
Brother i have the same problem kia sportage 2017, i have read in forums that is a lubricating problem, in the camshaft, kia put a one wway valve in oil filter. i recommend you use the kia oil filter. My car is repairing now in the dealer by warranty.
My 2010 with same engine, makes exactly same sound. It started around 50 k miles, and it’s at 103 k now and still sounds the same. I’m told when these engines were built, they were not designed with the piston skirts to short, and wobble around a little. Strange thing is it don’t use any oil between 6,000 mile oil changes. Yes people will say that’s to many miles between changes, however the new oil produced can more than take it and more miles. I have work on car since 1978. I guess I’ll drive my Kia, till it’s ready for new engine
128 k same sound no failure yet
Mine sounds same. Just not quite as loud. The ticking is like that in all these Kia 2.0 motors. No worries I beat the shit out of mine now over a year, and still running strong! Still Ticking like a watch also!
It's normal wear, the tolerances are greater between parts after wear, once the engine gets hot & the metal expands, noises less 'n
Do you fix your problem ?
i have a 2010 sx sedan ive read this on some kia forums:
the Kia Oil filter has an anti drain back valve built into the oil filter. Most high end oil filters also have this feature but not all aftermarket filters have this feature. Kia has found that engines with filters without the valve develop dry bearing start failures and destroy the bearing surfaces.
That oil filter anti-drainback valve has absolutely NOTHING to do with the noise lol so what are you pointing it out for??
My advice would be to just do your regular oil changes every 5-6k or however long it takes to get dark. Also, if having a rough start where the car misfires until it stalls when you don't give it gas, try replacing the idle sensor👍🏼
Anth Nardy is that a hard job to do?
@@jordanrieser2703 easier than typing.
Replace the map sensor, Pcv valve as well as throw a bottle of cat cleaner in the tank. That’s what I did. Also put some sea foam high mileage in the oil fill. Fixed it right up
This must be a kia problem. I have a 2013 sportage and it does the same ting. Any solutions???
I have same noise at 141 klicks. Had all spark plugs replaced and coil. Put in little heavier oil and oil enhancer
It's the filters u can't use aftermarket filters on the kia..only blue factory filter..they will sound like lifters or tapping valves
It's just the valves. Nothing to worry about
What for filter you mean?? Write correct name or code of details please. I have the same problem
Even if you use factory OEM filters you will still have that sound.
EVERY KIA DOES THIS. IT'S MUCH LOUDER ON GDI ENGINES AS THE HIGH PRESSURE FUEL PUMP RUNS OFF THE CAM.
Did you ever figure out what it was? I've got a 2011 making the same noise ugh lol
anyone find out the problem with the noise or sound because mines does this too and don't know what the issue is
I got same problem, not quite that loud, but car runs strong. It's my daily beater to work and back. Also beat the crap out of it on weekends! Fun little car! I use 10/30 Castrol or Mobile one. It helps quite it down some, but it's common in all the kias
Any issues with 10/30 over the recommended 5/20 oil ??
@@ronb9901 I just changed it last week. I use Mobile I used 5 /20 runs great just that tapping noise. Changed plugs, coils, , air filter and still ticking....
@@doordashdude69 ditto, I’m gonna do a engine flush next oil change with some ATS engine flush, see what happens. I have a 2012 Forte EX 105k miles.
Same here I have almost that identical video minus the belt
Yeah I replaced the plastic intake manifold on mine and it fixed it.
I was worried it may be my motor is bad. So that fixed your rattling huh? Good deal! If you suggest it could be anything else that can cause the rattling noise please let me know! Thanks ☺
@@blessedspirit9863 I know it's late and I don't know if you still have the same vehicle but it's pretty normal for the old KIA 4 cylinder.
Our 2011 Kia Forte EX with the 2.0 sounds the same. Our engine light was on for years due to that manifold issue here recently it went out. But we still have the knocking noise, it sounds as if the engine is low on oil or something. Ours has 141,000 miles on it.
How long was it knocking for ?!
@@tiararagin6330 Our Kia has 151k miles on it now and its still knocking, we dont have the money to take it to Kia for diagnosis or repair so we have just been driving it like this. The only difference now is the transmission jerks when shifting from 5th gear down to 4th when climbing a hill. At least this has been confirmed by manually shifting the transmission as for the knock its still knockin
The ticking is still there on my 2010 Kia Forte ex, 137,000 miles
but I ended heaving to replace my exhaust manifold which had cracked on the back side right under the sensor pin
which a friend said was caused by the poor design and weight of the catalyst? Or exhaust pipe? Putting pressure on the manifold every time you'll hit a bump or move in general.
Sorry not an expert at all lol but point being! Is my car is much much quieter! Like when I first bought her at 100,000 miles. Hope this helps!
Mines use to make the same noise I switched to mobile 1 fully synthetic noise got way better
my car has done the same thing since I bought it brand new. 2014 with the nu engine. that's why they call them lawn mower engines.
I don't have a kia..., I have a 2010 chevy malibu and mine only does it when it's cold outside and then once it warms up it gets quiet. but I have noticed it's doing it a lot more now. with almost 117,000 miles on it I think it's about time to trade it lol
Mine makes same sound 77,000 miles
Look at my video. Knock was common in these. On ours a deer at 70 mph took it out before engine failure could
So with all the comments saying they all experience this myself included. would you say this is a Kia issue and or could be considered normal wear of the engine? . idk why Kia and Hyundai engines sound like they'll just fall apart it's scary .. so far my 2010 Kia forte ex is alright I just got it with 72,235 miles for $2,500 I think I made a good decision I hope
I have the same car and do the same but I changed the steering wheel pump and I fixed it so I feel you should do that too
Try taking out the pcv valve and running without it for a minute - it sounds like the pcv rattling, its at the top on the top right of the engine facing forwards
Perhaps fuel pressure regulator its a movingwheel doesn't supposed to rattle its worn replace it immediately
My brand new 2011 Sportage did it from new and my current second 2010 Forte Koup SX does the same thing cold. Normal
VVT variable valve timing sprocket
should be replace the valve lefter that located between the camshaft and valves . I had this problem in hyundai elantra 2006
165k with my forte 2012
I really don't mind the noise
The noise goes away after warmup for me
Still rolling
I drive 160miles working days
I sleep in my car 3 times a week leaving the car on overnight for a/c
Still running
Just driving it to the ground
can i plewse have an update. im curious how long it lasted
@@Mr.cross27 never a good idea to sleep inside an idling car
I also have the same car, I had the same problem, the dealership blamed a bad oil filter, they changed it and sent me on my way; before my next oil change was due my motor had blown. they had to replace it for free under my warranty.
Weird, have had mine since October of 2009.....the engine sounded like this from the start. Still sounds like it when cold. The only thing I have had to replace is the front struts and links
What should i do
Just commen kia tick not lethal unless it's more of a knock a bit of sea foam in gas and the oil 400km before you change your oil to get it a little less noisy but other then that they all tick slightly
I have the same ticking, and i think its the solid shims kia used for this engine. U need to readjust that every 100k km or so, i read it in the manual iirc. Or use better oil
Did you change yours? If yes did it stop the problem?
You may check your timing belt also
Wow my car sounds exactly like this
change oil grade to 5w30 or 5w40 synthetic
That’s engine knock there was a recall on the 2.0 and the 2.4 from those years changed the whole engine
That's not knock. I have heard knock on these engines and this isn't it.
I have a 2011 kia forte ex with only 60,000 miles and it is making this noise as of a week ago. When the car is warm it either stops completely or is quieter. It is no longer on warranty and Kia says there is nothing they can do but replace the whole engine. My main concern is if it is safe to drive long distances...
Nicki G yess its safe
our engine block displayed same sounds,we are now having the cracked engine block replaced.
its a long story.
Clean or replace the vvt might be dirty
Update everyone, I have this sound in my 2015 1.6 kia Cerato/ forte. I tried to shake all of the pulleys and I found out that my idler pulley has alot of play. even when I try to shake it a bit it makes the same ticking noise. Ill change that pulley as well as the tensioner pulley too since it has 120k+ km on it and update you guys soon.
Zark Dx update?
Anything?
Any updates?
Air conditioner pulley
I have a mechanic checking it out now, I'll let you know later what's up
I guess this sound is normal for kias lmaooo my Kia is not this intense but does make the noise
I just bought it a few months ago. I got it a 4 door 2.0L 5 speed stick. 75,000 km for like 5,000 . I know I over paid. But I just need to know what f I need to worry about this rattle.
Any update on this? Just bought one a 2010 has the same noise
I have a 2012 Kia forte with the 2.0, same issue. It is usually a horrible case of piston slap. From what I've seen, it isn't super lethal, but then again, from all of Kia/Hyundai's recalls lately. I wouldn't be surprised if it was lethal. I will never purchase another Kia/Hyundai. Their engine reliability is non existent.
ToyotaCelicaDude1 same here got a elantra with piston slap when cold unsure if it’ll last or not. Is yours still running?
Had mine for 160k been making this noise since 100k still fine.
Bought my 2010 Kia Forte koup with 110k with the ticking. Put 10,000 miles on it and is still fine. Put the pedal to the floor and hasn’t gone out on me yet!
I bought mine at 99k miles in up to 104k now still running fine the engine strong surprisingly
Brand new 2022 kia makes same noise. 600 miles on the engine. Everyone says that's just normal for kia. I don't trust it
I also have a 2010 KIA Forte and it sounds like a tank. and it only has 88,000 miles. I am thinking about trading it, but I really like this car. any Ideas how to fix it other than a new engine.
Judging by comments, if you were into mechanics you could replace the rod bearings (which cause the piston to touch the side of the cylinder) and replace the oil pump with a higher pressure one to prevent them wearing out again. Assuming it's the rod bearings, but if it sounds like a tank, well...
I have a 2012 kia sportage lx. It does the same thing. It does seem to lessen the first 10 or so minutes of driving but I drive 37 one way for work. Hiway miles. And by the time I get home the ticking get loud again. I feel embarrassed when at a stop light because it sounds like a diesel and can only imagine some people hear it look and see its not a diesel and are thinking the motor is about to blow. It's only four years old with 88,000 miles on it. I will try the suggestions and hopefully report back.
Lynsky71 the engine is still under warranty. As long as you did all the scheduled maintenance the Kia requires they have to replace the engine.
Omg my girl has a 2014 Kia forte and the shit sounds like it’s about to blow but runs fine I don’t get it she’s embarrassed at times because the shit is just loud
2012 kia forte does it has been for 3 years. I drfited it in the snow and reved lined it for to long
Stretched your timing belt
Mine does it too, kia cee’d 2011
guys.. guys.. hold on your horses.
I have used friction reducers as oil additive and the noise is gone... really.
EZI or Liquimoly Ceratech are fine at every oil change.
I tried using oil from different manufacturers only and had this noise. it seems that the oil only is not capable of eleminating the nose and had to add an additive.
hope you try and tell us the results.
kia forte 1.6 l 2010. 140,000 Km
SAME HERE! I use Full synthetic 5w-30 and Schaefers Moly E.P. in mine, sound is virtually gone, just a small amount of pinging. Also, ALWAYS use a Kia/Hyundai oil filter in this car, the filters have a thermostat in them to prevent oil from flowing through the filter while cold (weak oil pumps)
Edit: My engine is the 2.0, the 2.4s have issues with spinning bearings, the 2.0 suffers from the notorious but much less deadly piston slap.
This is all so interesting as my 2010 forte is so noisy!! With 125,000 miles on it, I’m afraid it’s going to implode! I may try an additive as that seems logical!! Thank you!
@@julieshaunnessey1737
Mine now is 220,000 km on it. 1.6l. without any problems until now. But at that stage in engine life you have to do some maintenance other than oil change and add additives.
You have to remove the air manifold and clean/scrub the dirt and sludge out of the four intakes valves. You may need to do the same for the exhaust as well. Change the timing chain and gears running on them. In addition to the spring loaded on it.
This may restore the engine sound and do better fuel consumption.
Currently i am using 5-w30 bizol G+. It is a German oil proven high quality and performance with me.
Have you found out this solution?
Bearing on the piston wear out and must change main bearings on the crankshaft problem solved don't 4get change oil pump
I'm having the same issue with my 2010 Kia forte!! I'm at 125k
Me too & I just got the car not long ago. on Friday, 2 days ago
@@soldiersteve5461 did you do anything
@@soldiersteve5461 same thing happened to me did you ever get it fixed?
No guys, I didn't do anything. The only thing I did was return it 1 or 2 days later and got a refund back. That's what I did
Sea foam fuel, air intake, and oil treatment. The gdi engine directs the gas past the valves. The gasoline is now never cleaning the valves and they tend to built up carbon. Cured my 2013 Kia Rio and the 2010 Kia Forte koup of all noise.
i_am_milan care to give more info? Looking to treat this issue somehow
My Kia Rio currently got repaired. :/ Carbon build up, bent valve :(
Yessir 400 likes.
Is it ruining low on oil
Same noise here, kia forte 2014 70k mileage, any suggetions to fix it? since i have no warranty anymore being the second owner.
me too same year same mileage
Take it to kia. If you are original owner they will replace engine. They are replacing mine as we speak!
Our 2012 Kia Forte EX 4 door just went over 100k miles and out of the blue the engine started making the same noise. Kias warranty dept gave us a claim number to give the dealership but if the dealership determines they arent going to cover it we are on the hook for parts and labor. Any ideas on how to get them to cover it without paying out of pocket?
Any results or solutions????
Try purchasing one of those extended car warranties through a 3rd party. That's what we did, we paid for a few months and then went to the kia dealer and had them go through the engine because we have that same knocking noise. The only thing we paid was the 500 dollar deductible. Just don't tell the company you get the warranty from that its making noise before you get the warranty
Drop the oil pan bet the bearings in bottom half on a piston rod is worn out.
My 2011 Kia Forte EX makes the same noise. I wonder if synth oil would fix this? I plan to put some Mobil-1 full-synth in my crankcase here soon.
Sector 001 how was your outlook on that
William: the Mobil 5w-20 full synth (gold cap) did help some, in quieting the knock, but it still has it. It seems to go away when the engine heats up. My 1995 Monte Carlo (3.1 v-6) did the same thing. And it was never an issue. So, I'm just going with it for now.
Sounds like timing job is needed. needs oil cycling to the top better. Probably not getting full stroke. Your tail pipe might be dark inside with soot.
I wouldnt touch it until a professional mechanic can help you out. Good luck man.
Yes I have the same issue in my Forte 2010 but the ticking sound goes after few minutes
Do you still have noise ?
@@rajubn5220Mine has made that noise new, and 10 years later it's still running fine.
M.J. Same with mine. But it’s not this loud & it does go away in my forte koup
Hey guys Yeah mine is making the same noise and I notice he gets a lot quieter once it’s warm or hot especially and when I Revit up it goes away but I’m trying to sell the vehicle so explaining that to the person is trying to buy is a lot different
4K Has 166,000 miles on it put a new oil pump timing chain components new cams replace the head gasket
Same here! I bought my 2010 kia forte and from the research my parents did, the info we got was that since its an older car, it just makes that noise and you cant do anything about the noise. Apparently from 2014 and down kia cars ( and Hyundei I believe), it makes that noise