Yes, but DC will never let him go. Which is frustrating because they keep putting him in stuff but not his family. Or they skip the majority. How about showing Jarro, guys?!
But I have to admit, without "Batman" in the title, I wouldnt have given this movie a chance. Yes, I am a filthy casual, and without Batman i wouldnt know how cool Richard was. WB know what they are doing. Dont @ me but a lot of people love Batman, and this was a way to introduce other 'cool' characters, it worked and I am now looking for a reading list on Richard.
@@nrnrn999 Fairs. I like her character in that, but only after I chose to see her as an elseworld doppleganger :) she's funny and I stan how a kid character gets to act like a kid.
If they didn't put "Batman" on the cover page of the script, Warner wouldn't have greenlit it, never mind actually made it. Batman's the only character they give a damn about and it's exhausting.
@@cui8789 Yeah, but that’s become a self-fulfilling prophecy type thing. Batman’s been the only character that sells, so he’s the one the promote the heaviest, so sales are even more heavily in his favor, so he gets promoted more, over and over and over again.
I felt the exact same way about Batman being in Assault on Arkham. If they had given him less screen time and treated him more like the antagonist to the Suicide Squad it probably be a better movie. It’s why I think Hell to Pay is a better movie. Maybe they should start calling these movies “Brave and the Bold”?
I really don’t think that they were trying to milk the shit out of the ‘Batman’ brand in AOA. I think they were really trying to let people know this takes place in the Arkham verse.
Honestly i won't have a problem with someone else being more main character because literally batman been doing the most in the movies while other characters are dead or knocked out or not even their
This is one of my favorite Batman animated films because I'm such a huge Bruce lee fan. I absolutely love this movie. The music , the cover art everything feels like an enter the dragon movie. Michael Jai White voices the Jim Kelly character. The bouncer clearly resembles Bob Wall. The fighter Sheva kills in her club resembles Chuck Norris. Theres even a scene where the Bruce lee character tricks the bouncer and locks him in the alleyway just like Bruce lee in enter the dragon tricked the fighter into hopping onto the boat and casting him off into the water. If your a Batman and Bruce lee fan you will enjoy this movie from beginning to end. Theres alot of small easter eggs in this film to enjoy.
I wouldn't get too upset about it. Remember, Batman is by far and wide DC's most popular character and arguably the most popular comic book character of all time. If you slap his name on a movie title it's going to attract a wide array of viewers due to their attachment to his brand name. Nobody outside of dedicated comic book fans know who Richard Dragon or the Kobra Cult is so putting them as the headliner in the movie without any previous association with a big name character wouldn't really help them. Now that so many people have seen the movie and want to see more of Richard Dragon, Lady Shiva, Bronze Tiger and other characters....perhaps next time they can put out a movie concerning them without involving Batman. Batman is just a way to get them through the door.....
I feel like this was meant to be a Richard Dragon and Bronze tiger movie but because the characters aren't that well known DC didn't have enough enough they could hold there own movie. So they just made it a Batman movie with Richard Dragon, Bronze tiger and Lady Shiva. Which is such a waste as Richard Dragon is one of DC'S oldest characters, he Bronze tiger and lady shiva are the martial arts trinity. They deserve more attention and respect especially Richard because he has so much potential.
Funnily enough, WB did the same with Bruce Lee's Enter the Dragon, they didn't have faith in Lee as a star, so they billed him with John Saxon as the main stars of the movie.
I think nerds forget how niche our tastes are. Batman had to be in it to put a spot light on D-list characters. Otherwise the movie wouldn't come out. DC is not marvel, they can make a live action shang-chi and people will watch it. Meanwhile DC/warner bros struggle to make a justice league film.
Batman: Soul of the DRAGON was dope as hell! The 70's kung-fu/ blaxploitation/ spy film aesthetic really worked for me. Batman is the honey that draws in the flies, but you make an interesting point about the Shang-Chi effect.
I feel like Soul of the Dragon was hindered by including Batman at all. He felt superfluous and in the end him being the only one in a costume seem out of place. Had he been excluded there could have been more time with the others. Generally I wish WB would be willing to try movies that don't have Batman awkwardly shoehorned in like this film or Justice League Dark.
They used him to get people to watch the movie... then didn't give him anything to do. Leaving him out wouldn't have given anyone else more screen time cuz he was already the least important character. Whooped by Bronze Tiger, says he's scared of Shiva, Dragon steals Bruce Lee's mannerisms/ charisma and that leaves Batman with nothing. Even when he was gonna have his badass moment at the end... everyone else had to show up to out shine him. Shiva "I'm not gonna let a MAN tell me what to do".... um Batman told 2 other guys to stay behind too and all 3 of you were just outside arguing about who got to sacrifice their self. Where is the sexism? Forced...
Even now in the Future State comics they can never let Bruce die or disappear or whatever even after they teased him stepping down from the role for years. I understand that things are rough in their publishing department but holy crap is he oversaturated
I thought it was a fun 70's type of movie, but it shouldn't be canon, they pretty much put Batman in there to get people to watch it. Batman is supposed to be one of the best martial artists in the world but we really don't get to see him fight and he gets his ass kicked multiple times in this movie. It was cool.but he really didn't need to be in it
Even though Batman isn't the strongest and Richard got the shine at the end this is a Batman movie because it's about how Bruce develops as a character and where he learns his martial arts skills from. If he started out the best then there would be no point of telling the story. Batman is not supposed to be a Gary Sue character. This is an homage to the Dennis O'Neil characters including Batman. It's his story because of the moments where he and we the audience learn. Batman isn't the greatest fighter, he's great because of his intellect and determination. He makes up for his lacks of skills with his strategic mind.
As a Lady Shiva stan, a film like this was long overdue for me. She has been treated so poorly in recent adaptations. Written as a tool for the League of Assasins (or Shadows) and only used to “prop up” other characters abilities and hype. My favorite Dc film of all time, bought the blue ray immediately. Just to point out, Shiva needs to be far away from the League as possible to be written well. I don’t understand why writers keep making her a lackey for them. F that. Denny intended for Shiva to be her on force, as good at healing as she is hurting. Read The Question by him. That is all.
frr, lady shiva is actually one of my favorites female characters in both marvel and dc, they did her justice in that movie as she’s top 3 best fighters in dc with Richard dragon being number 2 and karate kid being number 1
This movie was garbage. Why the hell are they calling the monk guy sensei when they clearly are not in Japan? Why doesn't Batman use any of his tools against the lizard people? Bronze Tiger actually comes up with a better tactic then bats. Why does Batman have a weapon shelf with lethal bladed weapons? And ya nice weapons Bruce, NO ONE USED ANY OF THEM!!! And great job Bruce letting literally everyone figure out your secret identity, including Lady Shiva who you established is a crime boss in this universe. She literally brushes it off as if she's not a criminal and he's not a crimefighter. And thank you Richard Dragon for legendary tactic of taking your shirt off when fighting the boss cause it makes you a better fighter. But this soundtrack slaps tho. I mean doesn't fit a Batman movie at all but for Bronze Tiger/Richard Dragon story it was tight. Honest opinion. Don't hate. I just really thought it was awful. 2/10
I saw the thumbnail of your video and I wanted to watch it, but I thought I should see the movie first. No regrets it was just what I needed to cheer me
Richard Dragon probably couldn't alone the first time but with batman as a support character. It would lead to a greater chance of happening for the sequel.
to be fair Richard Dragon was never brought to the screen, hell! he is not known to people outside deep comic book fans. so making this a batman movie was a good way to bring him into the larger dc multiverse
This movie was great,It showed The early beginnings of Batman I don't know what earth this Batman took place on because it seemed like it was the 70's bit I loved it.My favorite part was Richard he was pretty cool and Bronze tiger I like how he wasn't such an Agressive black guy stereotype he had a sense of humor Batman was great to. I'm glad they let other characters shine not let Bruce take up all the Scenes.The reason they used The Batman named was to bring a audience
I agree that this movie probably shouldn't have Batman. It reminds me of Batman: Assault on Arkham. That's not really a Batman movie either; it's a Suicide Squad movie. But at the time Suicide Squad wasn't as mainstream, so they relied on the Bat Brand to bring in the views. Batman is cool, but he doesn't need to be in either of these movies.
I agree every word he said it shouldn't be a batman movie because there was no batman! I was not happy with the story its because after watching whole new 52 timeline i expected a lot from this movie which really disappointed me apart from batman there was no history of characters i was happy they introduced lady shiva but they didn't told anything about her not only her they didn't explain aby character and last thing i want to say neither batman nor bryce wayne was in tge spotlight dude what the whole point of watching batman if we don't get to see batman! !!
I think that warner bros could sell "genre" films starring their non-mainstream characters. They have enough to make lots of smaller projects if they wanted. You could have a spooky, occult film with Bloodwynd as the lead. You could do a campy romp with Johnny or Jakeem Thunder. You could even do a darker, sci-fi movie with Pantha. I feel as though their brand is strong enough. They sold a big budget Shazam movie, there's no reason why their other characters cannot succeed.
@@knight2976able l know, the movie wasn't very good and it was an else world movie not part of dceu, my comment is about movie dc could do that take place within the dceu continuity
I literally just finished watching this movie and I agree: it shouldn't have been a Batman movie at all. ::SPOILERS:: The times when Bruce did put on his costume (twice during the entire runtime) felt shoe-horned in to justify having his property in the title. First time he actually runs away during a fight to put the cowl on and Richard sees right through it in five seconds flat, then Richard tells him 'they'll need every advantage they can get' for the final battle, encouraging him to don it again. And the only 'advantage' it gives Bruce during the big show down is Batarangs and smoke bombs. Which the others did not need and IMO implys he is an inferior combatant that needs his gimmicks to hold his own. Bruce is just there to supply the tech which aids the group on their mission e.g. the Batmobile for a chase sequence, a private jet to get them to the cult's island, a nifty armory wall of various weapons for the group to chose from etc. And if you're going to spend a big opening sequence of Richard Dragon using all this spy-tech like fingerprint copiers/printers and microfilm cameras, why not just have him be the one to produce those resources instead? Bruce being Batman had little to no effect and I only recall one time any of his fellow students even calls him' Batman' rather than 'Bruce'. (And even then it's in a backhanded way, with Shiva exclaiming: 'YOU'RE the Batman?!' in the middle of a big fight scene when Dragon blurts out about Bruce's little 'costume). This should have been a 'Kung-Fu Fighters' title on it's own. I found this version of Richard to be a rather bland, but having him be the head-liner would have been less painful than shoving Batman in there with no reason or purpose. And somehow that brooding, Bat-jerk STILL tried to take all the glory at the end anyway by trying to sacrifice himself going through the portal! Especially after Richard had done the majority of the fighting and killed the naga god on his own! Dammit, Bruce, can't you let someone else have the angst just once, man? I 100% agree with you also that DC shouldn't have been afraid to have one of their lesser known, minority characters head-line in light of Marvel's release of Shang-Chi. Why not, after all, when DC has been scrambling like an embarrassing little brother trying to copy their more successful, elder sibling Marvel for years? I'm going to get shyte for that comparison, but know that I have collected both publishers for over twenty years. No sane person can argue that DC has not rushed to ape Marvel's cinematic universe without putting in the decade or so of groundwork the latter did and has instead come out looking a little foolish for it. I'm sure the die-hard fans will try, oh, they will try, but it's sadly clear as day. ~achem~ First Suicide Squad movie ~achem~ Release the Synder Cut ~achem~ Anyway, just my two cents on the film.
I just watched this and agree with most of what you said for me personally going into it thinking it's a Batman film and an animated one which they normally kill it I thought it was crap
Just like Justice League Dark didn't really need Batman in it. There are plenty of magical characters who could have fulfilled the "fish out of water" trope and it wasn't like the plot or concepts in the movie were THAT complex that they needed much explaining
Idk I was a little mad at the movie cause I was expecting Batman and I got less than ten minutes of Batman in the entire movie but I thought about it and I’m glad I know about some of these characters cause I didn’t before just don’t look at it as a Batman movie it’s really a movie meant to get you into new characters which was successful
I'll be honest, I don't think Richard Dragon could hold his own at this point and I don't think it's quite fair to compare it directly to Marvel's live action films. People will go to a Marvel film, regardless of what it is. Even with no knowledge of the character, you see 'Marvel' and know you're in for a big blockbuster action flick. Dc's animated films do not have that same notoriety with mainstream audiences. A film just called 'Soul of the Dragon' wouldn't be able to pull in that mainstream appeal in the same way as just pasting BATMAN on it would. Also, I haven't watched the film but I don't really like Lady Shiva's design from what I've seen here. Even flashed forward, she looks so short and dimunitive and young. I think it's the oversized head. I've always seen her as pretty tall and powerful in appearance so it feels a bit wrong her being more diminutive. It's not a big deal but it bugged me when I was watching your video.
Lady shiva's just made to be more realistic, most asian woman aren't above 6ft. although her stature is small she exudes control and dominance through her skill and personality.
@@streetbeaglekz1923 While this may be true, I don't think realism is a reasonable answer. Sure, most asian women are relatively short but Shiva seems to have more childlike proportions. On top of that, she was never over 6 foot or anything crazy. According to the DC wiki, she's 5'8" which, while tall for a Chinese woman isn't insane. It just seems odd having all these very big, buff men with Bronze Tiger, Richard Dragon and Batman, but then having Shiva be so much smaller.
People forget how niche we our and how much money it would need to make. The math doesn't even compare. Even the scorpion film got shrugged off like nothing.
True. As good a character as Batman is, this was an opportunity give lesser known or less popular characters to be given a chance in the spot-light. Why not make it a movie sully about the greatest fighters in the world? As well as make their designs much more accurate (not counting Lady Shiva).
I felt there wasn’t a need for the suited up Batman in this film but I truly appreciated Bruce Wayne being a part of this and giving us a little back story on his martial arts training . I probably wouldn’t of liked it so much without Bruce Wayne in it with his backstory. I also like that Bruce wasn’t the strongest of the 4 warriors but how they noted his determination as a key factor to his character. All in all this movie has a lot of great qualities to it. The whole old school 70s theme was on point too. Definitely would recommend anyone who hasn’t watched it to watch it Shiva was my favorite character in this flic, she was bad ass for sure
True, I don't even think we saw him out of mask in that movie and the character just seems less front-and-center/important/complete without Bruce Wayne.
Pretty Good. Didn't care for Dragon being a "Shang Chi"Rip But Love Shiva and Tiger HOWEVER I can get them at this point.Would Love a mini series with these three, in comics AND HBO MAX.
I think DC need to stop focusing on batman as he's just a Gary stu at this point. Unfortunetly a lot of people eat that shit up and would honestly die without batman in their media. It's a shame because DC seem to think that they can milk the fans with batman instead of been creative enough to showcase other characters
@@UnifiedEntity he didn't do anything significant in the JL dark movie but he was out there anyway. Doesn't need to be there at all. Keep the fucker away from movies he shouldn't be in.
I earnestly love Soul of The Dragon. It’s an absolutely fantastic movie. I also agree with your assessment that it isn’t a Batman movie nor does it need to be.
Step 1-infinity of convincing executives to green light a movie: we're naming it batman: insert here. If its how I get to see these awesome c-listers though, I'll take it.
It doesn’t feel like Batman, first off you see him kill like three people, and that’s not Batman, it’s the same problem as Batman in the dceu, and they tried too hard to include Batman, also him being the least skilled at the time of him being Batman shouldn’t be true, he’s gone through so much more training that honestly if it was a Batman film, he shouldn’t have been unconscious for the final fight
Batman didn’t kill anyone in this film. You can arguably say he “killed” O Sensei but he was dead already, his body was just possessed and animated by the demon spirit thing. At that point, you could argue that he was more of a machine than a person. Hence it can be destroyed, but not killed.
Hell, I'd love for DC/Warner to do a stand alone Jesus Reyes Blue Beetle movie. Batman is (or was) his patron and Peacemaker is (or was) his mentor. With Batman and John Cena as fundamental parts of his story, you'd think they would be jumping at the chance to do it.
Richard definitely could make a successful dc movie. They better make a sequel because of how the first movie ended and it would be their chance to fix everything you said
This video perfectly describes what I thought of the film. I would even go as far to say that even if you removed Batman, bronze tiger, and lady shiva and replaced them with brand new characters it would’ve been a good film still. It’s a great and interesting film, it’s just not a good Batman film. That said I did like the Batman voice in the movie
I haven't heard of this movie but it looks hella amazing! I gotta check it out! It's a shame DC focused more on Batman instead of Richard. It's a bit sad to see that as an Asian American. I agree with your idea that Batman should've been a supporting character. Or at least advertise Batman a lot on this movie and then do a bait and switch
Well thats a lie.... They give Batman nothing to do and the 3 side characters ALL the good stuff... I don't know what you being Asian has to do with anything... maybe you are a big fan of this d list character... but when I look up his comic counterpart he is a red head.... Do you think he is really Bruce Lee?
honestly I think you’re partly right Richard could hold the movie on his own as well as the other people but for a lot of people that wouldn’t know who these characters are or choose not to read the comics those people wouldn’t go see the movie but putting batman in the title makes people go see it to learn about these characters they could’ve done it a better way by introducing these characters through Batman and then making this movie and then having it Richard front and center but I’m a be honest I would’ve not seen this movie if Batman wasn’t in the title because I don’t know who Richard dragon is but now I do and I have learned a lot about the character and I collect comics but I’ve never seen any comics of his or anything when going to the comic store or anything like that
To me this could have easily been a prolonged series spanning multiple seasons at least 3 if they built up to the events of the film. I liked the 70s setting something different for DC animated films and nods to films like Bond and Enter the dragon, the fight chorography and voice acting was handled/executed extremely well, but coupled with the story that wasn't anything different and somewhat generic compared to past movies results in this one being unimportant however I did like what we received but wanted more I terms of characterisation and a more compelling story. I also totally agree that this shouldn't have been classed or marketed as a Batman movie he didn't really have an impact and if removed he wouldn't have changed the story in any significant way. This easily could have been sold as its own DC thing if it was a series it's characters would have gotten a whole lot more development which was needed all in all I like what we git but it had a lot more potential from the ending a sequel looks to be in the works but I don't see where else they can go from here...
This movie could've been pretty interesting if we got a hero outside of Batman or hell without any hero at all. Movies like are a blast to watch and when animated they can get away with a lot of fight moves that are either extremely difficult to pull off in real life or even not possible at all. Batman being in this film is kinda the same reason they added the Birds of Prey into a Harley Quinn movie. With Harley Quinn it felt like they added the Birds of Prey cause cause they didn't think Harley couldn't hold a movie by herself while in Batman Enter The Dragon it felt like they added Batman cause they didn't think the cast could hold the audience's attention Which is extremely disappointing cause both movies could've been legendary if they didn't fear over small things.
I have to sadly disagree that they thought Harley couldn't hold a movie by herself. I think it was the other way around: with DC believing no one would give a Birds of Prey movie a look without shoving Harley Quinn in there. As disastrous as the first Suicide Squad movie was, it spawned an army of casual female fans all over the internet labeling themselves 'Daddy's Lil Monster's and declaring they were 'the real-life Harley Quinn'. (Which IMO became a red flag to stay the hell away from these women jumping on the 'edgy' bandwagon to excuse their shitty personalities as simply 'misunderstood' and 'quirky', but that is neither here nor there.) After the bad reputation the Ashley Scott-starring Birds of Prey TV series in the early 2000's gained, I think the studio felt they needed to include their newest cash cow (Harley) into the mix to get their BoP cinematic incarnations noticed. And I believe they still messed it up royally with Cass. Then again, look at the poor Batwoman series.
@@mindyg7064 Honestly you're probably right. They had a lot of setting up to do in that film so by adding Harley they gave us a character that people recognized and can follow a bit more easily than Huntress or Black Canary. I still think the movie fumbled hard like the way they represented Cassandra Cain, Harley kinda just never really seeming like she is in any danger, and waaay too many elements of the movie kinda just feeling like Deadpool. Cassandra being portrayed the way she was really hurt the film for me cause she's such a cool Batman character that got wasted cause the director just wanted to use a name that fans would recognize. I still believe that instead of Birds of Prey they should've just tried doing a Gotham City Sirens movie, then again with how Birds of Prey turned out maybe it's a good thing they didn't bother.
I had a feeling that this was a film would more likely be a Batman film mainly by name. Which is fine by me.... I am mainly interested to see Richard Dragon... and yes.... I do think that he has a chance as a stand alone star. (Either this version or his traditional comic book look has a chance.) (I too am a Batman fan. But I have a major affinity for Bruceploitation (as in Bruce Lee esque focused films.)) (Perhaps their will come a day when DC will have more faith in their Non-Trinity characters.) I am still really really looking forward to getting to see Soul of the Dragon.
So I knew of and about all these characters prior, and watched because I wanted to see: their take on shiva, bronze tiger given the respect he deserves and lastly some curiosity about richard. So I enjoyed richard's role in it, but I wouldn't have watched it without shiva and bronze tiger most likely.
Bruce Timm said they have plans for a sequel in an interview a while back. He said it depends on how well this movie does money wise. I checked a few days ago, and it looks like it’s doing very well ! A lot of blue ray copies sold at stores like Target. So, time will tell.
Title it Batman: Bruce and the Soul of the Dragon. Make it before he becomes Batman, and that may re-focus things to Richard and the other characters. And people will have an idea of what to expect going into it
I agree that Batman was not necessary and DC is making this same mistake again. I liked the of have a Animated film about the Justice Society fighting during WW2, but why throw in the Barry Allan Flash. I think WB is throwing in "recognizable" characters into stories that they don't fit into.
I agree Batman was really a missfit in this movie, if he was Bruce all way throught it would have made no diffrence. Now I do still like his scenes like the rice bowl one and hitting the rock. But I do also think Richard needed way more care, sure he was a nice guy who was ocasionally funny but that is it. Ben and Shiva had a lot of involment with the main plot then any other character. I love the music that was great, the animation very nice with the combat. Maybe only O-Sensei looked a little off sometimes. I like the suprise ending. The guy with the glasses was a fun villian. Now the diffrence between Marvel being able to make Shang Chi is mostly that now Marvel is a brand name like Disney. They need only to put the name there to make people atleast look at it. This DVD movies are still obscure, in europe you never get to see commercials for this, they could just as well not exist. The market is minuscule so they are doing thier best and they got a lot of freedom or else sadly I don´t think they could do as much however they wanted like with Marvel animated stuff, what is the latest one you saw that did not take a que from the Marvel movies? I understand that my point could be used to point out mostly DC fans watch this movies so they can do this without Batman in the name. But for now use Batman and Superman and even Justice League in name to promote this other characters. The people decide themself if they like to look them up and that will determine if this characters appel to the mainstream enough to give them thier own movies. It is a long term plan. They could never have done this without atleast one regonizable character on the cover. I will be happy when they can make a Green Lanthern or Arrow movie just focusing on them. I liked the first GL and I love to see them do GA too come on!
***S P I O L E R S*** I felt batman to be kinda unnecessary honestly. From I can remember he only appeared twice, once in the beginning and then in the end during the final act. Lastly that ending was kinda awkward, when it cut to black I was just like "that's it?" Like why did they go through the door, there was no need for that. All in all I still thought this movie was enjoyable.
I saw the movie I enjoyed it kept me entertained my only concern was the ending spoiler alert 🚨 don’t read if any further .......... Ok ... I’m warning u I believe that the cliffhanger has found a way to make a connection to maybe the Lazarus pit ? remember this is the door of a evil god the Easter egg we see at the end is the the green aura this aura is what the evil snake was saying that I believe makes him immortal ... so I believe the ending of all 3 of them walking in at the end is to keep evil immortality away from earth just a theory.
Yeah bro. DC will take anything and slap JL, Batman, or Superman on it because they don't have any faith in any other DC characters or brands. It's why DC will never be able to compete with Marvel. Marvel sells a universe while DC is just selling Batman 90% of the time.
I thought this was a fine movie, but yeah, Batman just feels unnecessary in this and it would've worked better just being a cool Martial Arts flick starring Richard Dragon.
Humanity has evolved past the point of putting Batman in everything under the sun. 👍🏾
Humanity perhaps but it would appear not DC
Yes, but DC will never let him go. Which is frustrating because they keep putting him in stuff but not his family. Or they skip the majority. How about showing Jarro, guys?!
nah I'm good - put Batman in EVERYTHING lol
we should start a new calendar, AB and BB: Anno Batman | Beyond Batman.
...I wish I could believe you...
But I have to admit, without "Batman" in the title, I wouldnt have given this movie a chance.
Yes, I am a filthy casual, and without Batman i wouldnt know how cool Richard was.
WB know what they are doing.
Dont @ me but a lot of people love Batman, and this was a way to introduce other 'cool' characters, it worked and I am now looking for a reading list on Richard.
I think Richard Dragon could hold a movie on his own. As could Cass Cain.
ESPECIALLY Cass Cain!
I still can't believe how dirty Cassie was done in Birds of Prey. Utter waste of the character.
@@nrnrn999 agreed shes supposed to be one of the best martial artists not a random preteen pickpocket bad move
@@nrnrn999 Fairs. I like her character in that, but only after I chose to see her as an elseworld doppleganger :) she's funny and I stan how a kid character gets to act like a kid.
No.
If they didn't put "Batman" on the cover page of the script, Warner wouldn't have greenlit it, never mind actually made it. Batman's the only character they give a damn about and it's exhausting.
Sadly, he's also the only one that consistently sells.
@@cui8789 Yeah, but that’s become a self-fulfilling prophecy type thing. Batman’s been the only character that sells, so he’s the one the promote the heaviest, so sales are even more heavily in his favor, so he gets promoted more, over and over and over again.
if the movie was called Richard Dragon: Soul of the Dragon know one would know what it was
*no one
I felt the exact same way about Batman being in Assault on Arkham. If they had given him less screen time and treated him more like the antagonist to the Suicide Squad it probably be a better movie. It’s why I think Hell to Pay is a better movie. Maybe they should start calling these movies “Brave and the Bold”?
I really don’t think that they were trying to milk the shit out of the ‘Batman’ brand in AOA. I think they were really trying to let people know this takes place in the Arkham verse.
Honestly i won't have a problem with someone else being more main character because literally batman been doing the most in the movies while other characters are dead or knocked out or not even their
This is one of my favorite Batman animated films because I'm such a huge Bruce lee fan. I absolutely love this movie. The music , the cover art everything feels like an enter the dragon movie. Michael Jai White voices the Jim Kelly character. The bouncer clearly resembles Bob Wall. The fighter Sheva kills in her club resembles Chuck Norris. Theres even a scene where the Bruce lee character tricks the bouncer and locks him in the alleyway just like Bruce lee in enter the dragon tricked the fighter into hopping onto the boat and casting him off into the water. If your a Batman and Bruce lee fan you will enjoy this movie from beginning to end. Theres alot of small easter eggs in this film to enjoy.
I wouldn't get too upset about it. Remember, Batman is by far and wide DC's most popular character and arguably the most popular comic book character of all time. If you slap his name on a movie title it's going to attract a wide array of viewers due to their attachment to his brand name. Nobody outside of dedicated comic book fans know who Richard Dragon or the Kobra Cult is so putting them as the headliner in the movie without any previous association with a big name character wouldn't really help them. Now that so many people have seen the movie and want to see more of Richard Dragon, Lady Shiva, Bronze Tiger and other characters....perhaps next time they can put out a movie concerning them without involving Batman. Batman is just a way to get them through the door.....
Soul of the dragon didn't feel like a batman movie. It just felt like a movie with batman in it.
I feel like this was meant to be a Richard Dragon and Bronze tiger movie but because the characters aren't that well known DC didn't have enough enough they could hold there own movie. So they just made it a Batman movie with Richard Dragon, Bronze tiger and Lady Shiva. Which is such a waste as Richard Dragon is one of DC'S oldest characters, he Bronze tiger and lady shiva are the martial arts trinity. They deserve more attention and respect especially Richard because he has so much potential.
Funnily enough, WB did the same with Bruce Lee's Enter the Dragon, they didn't have faith in Lee as a star, so they billed him with John Saxon as the main stars of the movie.
I think nerds forget how niche our tastes are. Batman had to be in it to put a spot light on D-list characters. Otherwise the movie wouldn't come out. DC is not marvel, they can make a live action shang-chi and people will watch it. Meanwhile DC/warner bros struggle to make a justice league film.
Batman: Soul of the DRAGON was dope as hell! The 70's kung-fu/ blaxploitation/ spy film aesthetic really worked for me. Batman is the honey that draws in the flies, but you make an interesting point about the Shang-Chi effect.
Now we need a James bond and Batman comic/animation
My nigga was a mime in his past life.
I don't see why the guy who created Richard Dragon didn't make him like this movie's Richard Dragon.
I feel like Soul of the Dragon was hindered by including Batman at all. He felt superfluous and in the end him being the only one in a costume seem out of place. Had he been excluded there could have been more time with the others.
Generally I wish WB would be willing to try movies that don't have Batman awkwardly shoehorned in like this film or Justice League Dark.
Well the next film will feature the JSA and Wonder Woman. In additions, Black Adam film is coming soon and a new GL TV show.
@@zemox2534 the next one is JSA and then right back to batman with an adaptation of long halloween
They used him to get people to watch the movie... then didn't give him anything to do. Leaving him out wouldn't have given anyone else more screen time cuz he was already the least important character. Whooped by Bronze Tiger, says he's scared of Shiva, Dragon steals Bruce Lee's mannerisms/ charisma and that leaves Batman with nothing. Even when he was gonna have his badass moment at the end... everyone else had to show up to out shine him. Shiva "I'm not gonna let a MAN tell me what to do".... um Batman told 2 other guys to stay behind too and all 3 of you were just outside arguing about who got to sacrifice their self. Where is the sexism? Forced...
@@SuperMeaninglessname Yeah well at least the JSA are getting a film. And no bats to steal the spotlight
He was fine in Justice league dark.
Its just like justice league dark. They're scared nobody will watch if Batman isn't there. DC has a real unhealthy love for batman
Even now in the Future State comics they can never let Bruce die or disappear or whatever even after they teased him stepping down from the role for years. I understand that things are rough in their publishing department but holy crap is he oversaturated
@@ScuubaSteefe its gotten to the point its irritating and makes me like batman less.
@@Random30276 yeah I agree
I thought it was a fun 70's type of movie, but it shouldn't be canon, they pretty much put Batman in there to get people to watch it. Batman is supposed to be one of the best martial artists in the world but we really don't get to see him fight and he gets his ass kicked multiple times in this movie. It was cool.but he really didn't need to be in it
Even though Batman isn't the strongest and Richard got the shine at the end this is a Batman movie because it's about how Bruce develops as a character and where he learns his martial arts skills from. If he started out the best then there would be no point of telling the story. Batman is not supposed to be a Gary Sue character. This is an homage to the Dennis O'Neil characters including Batman. It's his story because of the moments where he and we the audience learn. Batman isn't the greatest fighter, he's great because of his intellect and determination. He makes up for his lacks of skills with his strategic mind.
Exactly
As a Lady Shiva stan, a film like this was long overdue for me. She has been treated so poorly in recent adaptations. Written as a tool for the League of Assasins (or Shadows) and only used to “prop up” other characters abilities and hype. My favorite Dc film of all time, bought the blue ray immediately. Just to point out, Shiva needs to be far away from the League as possible to be written well. I don’t understand why writers keep making her a lackey for them. F that. Denny intended for Shiva to be her on force, as good at healing as she is hurting. Read The Question by him. That is all.
Thanks for the reading rec, I love both those characters.
How’d you feel about how she’s handled in Young Justice Seasons 3 and 4
frr, lady shiva is actually one of my favorites female characters in both marvel and dc, they did her justice in that movie as she’s top 3 best fighters in dc with Richard dragon being number 2 and karate kid being number 1
Batman is basically Roper.
The Dark knight wasn't a Batman movie. It was a crime thriller that happened to have Batman in it.
Agreed but it used Batman enough to justify itself as a Batman film.
Finally made a Bronze Tiger that wasn't a scrub. correction the second.
Loved it!
This movie was garbage. Why the hell are they calling the monk guy sensei when they clearly are not in Japan? Why doesn't Batman use any of his tools against the lizard people? Bronze Tiger actually comes up with a better tactic then bats. Why does Batman have a weapon shelf with lethal bladed weapons? And ya nice weapons Bruce, NO ONE USED ANY OF THEM!!! And great job Bruce letting literally everyone figure out your secret identity, including Lady Shiva who you established is a crime boss in this universe. She literally brushes it off as if she's not a criminal and he's not a crimefighter. And thank you Richard Dragon for legendary tactic of taking your shirt off when fighting the boss cause it makes you a better fighter.
But this soundtrack slaps tho. I mean doesn't fit a Batman movie at all but for Bronze Tiger/Richard Dragon story it was tight.
Honest opinion. Don't hate. I just really thought it was awful. 2/10
Yes this movie isn't a Batman film. It was a homage to 70s kung-fu flick. I think another title other than Batman would have been better.
I saw the thumbnail of your video and I wanted to watch it, but I thought I should see the movie first. No regrets it was just what I needed to cheer me
Richard Dragon probably couldn't alone the first time but with batman as a support character. It would lead to a greater chance of happening for the sequel.
I somewhat agree
to be fair Richard Dragon was never brought to the screen, hell! he is not known to people outside deep comic book fans. so making this a batman movie was a good way to bring him into the larger dc multiverse
This movie was great,It showed The early beginnings of Batman I don't know what earth this Batman took place on because it seemed like it was the 70's bit I loved it.My favorite part was Richard he was pretty cool and Bronze tiger I like how he wasn't such an Agressive black guy stereotype he had a sense of humor Batman was great to. I'm glad they let other characters shine not let Bruce take up all the Scenes.The reason they used The Batman named was to bring a audience
Well not everyone can watch anything DC without Batman in it like The Suicide Squad
My friend and I were saying the same exact thing and both laughed when we saw ur video on TH-cam!
Personally I wouldn’t have minded if they left Batman out and made it a shiva movie
I agree that this movie probably shouldn't have Batman. It reminds me of Batman: Assault on Arkham. That's not really a Batman movie either; it's a Suicide Squad movie. But at the time Suicide Squad wasn't as mainstream, so they relied on the Bat Brand to bring in the views. Batman is cool, but he doesn't need to be in either of these movies.
Oh wow suicide squad isnt even in the title...
I agree every word he said it shouldn't be a batman movie because there was no batman! I was not happy with the story its because after watching whole new 52 timeline i expected a lot from this movie which really disappointed me apart from batman there was no history of characters i was happy they introduced lady shiva but they didn't told anything about her not only her they didn't explain aby character and last thing i want to say neither batman nor bryce wayne was in tge spotlight dude what the whole point of watching batman if we don't get to see batman! !!
I think that warner bros could sell "genre" films starring their non-mainstream characters. They have enough to make lots of smaller projects if they wanted. You could have a spooky, occult film with Bloodwynd as the lead. You could do a campy romp with Johnny or Jakeem Thunder. You could even do a darker, sci-fi movie with Pantha. I feel as though their brand is strong enough. They sold a big budget Shazam movie, there's no reason why their other characters cannot succeed.
Aagreed
They can do a western movie with jonah hex, a cosmic adventure with the omegamens, a horror movie with the shadowpact,
@@bashengatheblackmanta7003 they did a Johan hex movie years ago .
@@knight2976able l know, the movie wasn't very good and it was an else world movie not part of dceu, my comment is about movie dc could do that take place within the dceu continuity
I literally just finished watching this movie and I agree: it shouldn't have been a Batman movie at all. ::SPOILERS::
The times when Bruce did put on his costume (twice during the entire runtime) felt shoe-horned in to justify having his property in the title. First time he actually runs away during a fight to put the cowl on and Richard sees right through it in five seconds flat, then Richard tells him 'they'll need every advantage they can get' for the final battle, encouraging him to don it again. And the only 'advantage' it gives Bruce during the big show down is Batarangs and smoke bombs. Which the others did not need and IMO implys he is an inferior combatant that needs his gimmicks to hold his own.
Bruce is just there to supply the tech which aids the group on their mission e.g. the Batmobile for a chase sequence, a private jet to get them to the cult's island, a nifty armory wall of various weapons for the group to chose from etc. And if you're going to spend a big opening sequence of Richard Dragon using all this spy-tech like fingerprint copiers/printers and microfilm cameras, why not just have him be the one to produce those resources instead?
Bruce being Batman had little to no effect and I only recall one time any of his fellow students even calls him' Batman' rather than 'Bruce'. (And even then it's in a backhanded way, with Shiva exclaiming: 'YOU'RE the Batman?!' in the middle of a big fight scene when Dragon blurts out about Bruce's little 'costume).
This should have been a 'Kung-Fu Fighters' title on it's own. I found this version of Richard to be a rather bland, but having him be the head-liner would have been less painful than shoving Batman in there with no reason or purpose. And somehow that brooding, Bat-jerk STILL tried to take all the glory at the end anyway by trying to sacrifice himself going through the portal! Especially after Richard had done the majority of the fighting and killed the naga god on his own! Dammit, Bruce, can't you let someone else have the angst just once, man?
I 100% agree with you also that DC shouldn't have been afraid to have one of their lesser known, minority characters head-line in light of Marvel's release of Shang-Chi. Why not, after all, when DC has been scrambling like an embarrassing little brother trying to copy their more successful, elder sibling Marvel for years? I'm going to get shyte for that comparison, but know that I have collected both publishers for over twenty years. No sane person can argue that DC has not rushed to ape Marvel's cinematic universe without putting in the decade or so of groundwork the latter did and has instead come out looking a little foolish for it. I'm sure the die-hard fans will try, oh, they will try, but it's sadly clear as day. ~achem~ First Suicide Squad movie ~achem~ Release the Synder Cut ~achem~
Anyway, just my two cents on the film.
I just watched this and agree with most of what you said for me personally going into it thinking it's a Batman film and an animated one which they normally kill it I thought it was crap
Just like Justice League Dark didn't really need Batman in it. There are plenty of magical characters who could have fulfilled the "fish out of water" trope and it wasn't like the plot or concepts in the movie were THAT complex that they needed much explaining
This this all of this. Watching JLD the whole time I’m thinking “Batman doesn’t need to be here”.
Idk I was a little mad at the movie cause I was expecting Batman and I got less than ten minutes of Batman in the entire movie but I thought about it and I’m glad I know about some of these characters cause I didn’t before just don’t look at it as a Batman movie it’s really a movie meant to get you into new characters which was successful
I'll be honest, I don't think Richard Dragon could hold his own at this point and I don't think it's quite fair to compare it directly to Marvel's live action films. People will go to a Marvel film, regardless of what it is. Even with no knowledge of the character, you see 'Marvel' and know you're in for a big blockbuster action flick. Dc's animated films do not have that same notoriety with mainstream audiences. A film just called 'Soul of the Dragon' wouldn't be able to pull in that mainstream appeal in the same way as just pasting BATMAN on it would.
Also, I haven't watched the film but I don't really like Lady Shiva's design from what I've seen here. Even flashed forward, she looks so short and dimunitive and young. I think it's the oversized head. I've always seen her as pretty tall and powerful in appearance so it feels a bit wrong her being more diminutive. It's not a big deal but it bugged me when I was watching your video.
Lady shiva's just made to be more realistic, most asian woman aren't above 6ft. although her stature is small she exudes control and dominance through her skill and personality.
@@streetbeaglekz1923 While this may be true, I don't think realism is a reasonable answer. Sure, most asian women are relatively short but Shiva seems to have more childlike proportions. On top of that, she was never over 6 foot or anything crazy. According to the DC wiki, she's 5'8" which, while tall for a Chinese woman isn't insane. It just seems odd having all these very big, buff men with Bronze Tiger, Richard Dragon and Batman, but then having Shiva be so much smaller.
People forget how niche we our and how much money it would need to make. The math doesn't even compare. Even the scorpion film got shrugged off like nothing.
True. As good a character as Batman is, this was an opportunity give lesser known or less popular characters to be given a chance in the spot-light. Why not make it a movie sully about the greatest fighters in the world?
As well as make their designs much more accurate (not counting Lady Shiva).
I felt there wasn’t a need for the suited up Batman in this film but I truly appreciated Bruce Wayne being a part of this and giving us a little back story on his martial arts training . I probably wouldn’t of liked it so much without Bruce Wayne in it with his backstory. I also like that Bruce wasn’t the strongest of the 4 warriors but how they noted his determination as a key factor to his character. All in all this movie has a lot of great qualities to it. The whole old school 70s theme was on point too.
Definitely would recommend anyone who hasn’t watched it to watch it
Shiva was my favorite character in this flic, she was bad ass for sure
I felt like Batman was a co star in the film and Dragon was Jackie Chan
Batman and Bruce Lee. Jackie Chan is more 90's early 2000's.
I thought the exact same thing, glad I wasn't just being picky
Batman: Assault on Arkham is like the same thing I reckon!
Batman is involved but I consider that more of a Suicide Squad film
Deadshot is the real main character.
True, I don't even think we saw him out of mask in that movie and the character just seems less front-and-center/important/complete without Bruce Wayne.
Pretty Good. Didn't care for Dragon being a "Shang Chi"Rip But Love Shiva and Tiger HOWEVER I can get them at this point.Would Love a mini series with these three, in comics AND HBO MAX.
Out of curiosity I looked up their first appearances and yeah, shang chi came out a year before Richard.
I think DC need to stop focusing on batman as he's just a Gary stu at this point. Unfortunetly a lot of people eat that shit up and would honestly die without batman in their media. It's a shame because DC seem to think that they can milk the fans with batman instead of been creative enough to showcase other characters
@@UnifiedEntity he didn't do anything significant in the JL dark movie but he was out there anyway. Doesn't need to be there at all. Keep the fucker away from movies he shouldn't be in.
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Do you have a video on injustice
I earnestly love Soul of The Dragon. It’s an absolutely fantastic movie. I also agree with your assessment that it isn’t a Batman movie nor does it need to be.
Step 1-infinity of convincing executives to green light a movie: we're naming it batman: insert here. If its how I get to see these awesome c-listers though, I'll take it.
I just want a Val armor karate kid movie with a good amount of fight scenes
Loved this movie seriously. One of the best "Batman" universe films in a while. It kinda feels like a Batman Year One Prequel
Exactly definitely before his actual year one
Almost like he just started getting his feet wet in this one
It doesn’t feel like Batman, first off you see him kill like three people, and that’s not Batman, it’s the same problem as Batman in the dceu, and they tried too hard to include Batman, also him being the least skilled at the time of him being Batman shouldn’t be true, he’s gone through so much more training that honestly if it was a Batman film, he shouldn’t have been unconscious for the final fight
Old school Batman used to kill and this is DCAU so its just a different version from what we know in modern times.
Batman didn’t kill anyone in this film. You can arguably say he “killed” O Sensei but he was dead already, his body was just possessed and animated by the demon spirit thing. At that point, you could argue that he was more of a machine than a person. Hence it can be destroyed, but not killed.
Did you watch Batman year one?
Hell, I'd love for DC/Warner to do a stand alone Jesus Reyes Blue Beetle movie. Batman is (or was) his patron and Peacemaker is (or was) his mentor. With Batman and John Cena as fundamental parts of his story, you'd think they would be jumping at the chance to do it.
Let's be real, Bruce didn't need to be here, but this being labeled as a batman movie was one hell of a marketing tool.
Richard definitely could make a successful dc movie. They better make a sequel because of how the first movie ended and it would be their chance to fix everything you said
This video perfectly describes what I thought of the film. I would even go as far to say that even if you removed Batman, bronze tiger, and lady shiva and replaced them with brand new characters it would’ve been a good film still. It’s a great and interesting film, it’s just not a good Batman film. That said I did like the Batman voice in the movie
I haven't heard of this movie but it looks hella amazing! I gotta check it out!
It's a shame DC focused more on Batman instead of Richard. It's a bit sad to see that as an Asian American. I agree with your idea that Batman should've been a supporting character. Or at least advertise Batman a lot on this movie and then do a bait and switch
Well thats a lie.... They give Batman nothing to do and the 3 side characters ALL the good stuff... I don't know what you being Asian has to do with anything... maybe you are a big fan of this d list character... but when I look up his comic counterpart he is a red head.... Do you think he is really Bruce Lee?
honestly I think you’re partly right Richard could hold the movie on his own as well as the other people but for a lot of people that wouldn’t know who these characters are or choose not to read the comics those people wouldn’t go see the movie but putting batman in the title makes people go see it to learn about these characters they could’ve done it a better way by introducing these characters through Batman and then making this movie and then having it Richard front and center but I’m a be honest I would’ve not seen this movie if Batman wasn’t in the title because I don’t know who Richard dragon is but now I do and I have learned a lot about the character and I collect comics but I’ve never seen any comics of his or anything when going to the comic store or anything like that
You would make a great professor or historian for DC comics teaching & giving us test or pop quiz on how we know are DC characters well 👏
It was clearly made to be a Batman movie because of money and Batman was clearly just a different character
To me this could have easily been a prolonged series spanning multiple seasons at least 3 if they built up to the events of the film. I liked the 70s setting something different for DC animated films and nods to films like Bond and Enter the dragon, the fight chorography and voice acting was handled/executed extremely well, but coupled with the story that wasn't anything different and somewhat generic compared to past movies results in this one being unimportant however I did like what we received but wanted more I terms of characterisation and a more compelling story.
I also totally agree that this shouldn't have been classed or marketed as a Batman movie he didn't really have an impact and if removed he wouldn't have changed the story in any significant way. This easily could have been sold as its own DC thing if it was a series it's characters would have gotten a whole lot more development which was needed all in all I like what we git but it had a lot more potential from the ending a sequel looks to be in the works but I don't see where else they can go from here...
The fact that many would only kill a baby if it were Hitler tho... that part seriously took me back to Deadpool 2 🤣🤣
I actually stopped being a batman fan *because* they put him in everything as an overpowered god-tier character.
He is a god tier character lol. I wouldn't read Grant Morrison Batman if i were you.
This movie could've been pretty interesting if we got a hero outside of Batman or hell without any hero at all. Movies like are a blast to watch and when animated they can get away with a lot of fight moves that are either extremely difficult to pull off in real life or even not possible at all. Batman being in this film is kinda the same reason they added the Birds of Prey into a Harley Quinn movie. With Harley Quinn it felt like they added the Birds of Prey cause cause they didn't think Harley couldn't hold a movie by herself while in Batman Enter The Dragon it felt like they added Batman cause they didn't think the cast could hold the audience's attention Which is extremely disappointing cause both movies could've been legendary if they didn't fear over small things.
I have to sadly disagree that they thought Harley couldn't hold a movie by herself. I think it was the other way around: with DC believing no one would give a Birds of Prey movie a look without shoving Harley Quinn in there.
As disastrous as the first Suicide Squad movie was, it spawned an army of casual female fans all over the internet labeling themselves 'Daddy's Lil Monster's and declaring they were 'the real-life Harley Quinn'. (Which IMO became a red flag to stay the hell away from these women jumping on the 'edgy' bandwagon to excuse their shitty personalities as simply 'misunderstood' and 'quirky', but that is neither here nor there.)
After the bad reputation the Ashley Scott-starring Birds of Prey TV series in the early 2000's gained, I think the studio felt they needed to include their newest cash cow (Harley) into the mix to get their BoP cinematic incarnations noticed. And I believe they still messed it up royally with Cass. Then again, look at the poor Batwoman series.
@@mindyg7064 Honestly you're probably right. They had a lot of setting up to do in that film so by adding Harley they gave us a character that people recognized and can follow a bit more easily than Huntress or Black Canary. I still think the movie fumbled hard like the way they represented Cassandra Cain, Harley kinda just never really seeming like she is in any danger, and waaay too many elements of the movie kinda just feeling like Deadpool. Cassandra being portrayed the way she was really hurt the film for me cause she's such a cool Batman character that got wasted cause the director just wanted to use a name that fans would recognize. I still believe that instead of Birds of Prey they should've just tried doing a Gotham City Sirens movie, then again with how Birds of Prey turned out maybe it's a good thing they didn't bother.
I had a feeling that this was a film would more likely be a Batman film mainly by name. Which is fine by me.... I am mainly interested to see Richard Dragon... and yes.... I do think that he has a chance as a stand alone star. (Either this version or his traditional comic book look has a chance.)
(I too am a Batman fan. But I have a major affinity for Bruceploitation (as in Bruce Lee esque focused films.))
(Perhaps their will come a day when DC will have more faith in their Non-Trinity characters.)
I am still really really looking forward to getting to see Soul of the Dragon.
Richard Dragon has so much potential
As for Richard Dragon holding his own movie I very much think he could carry his own movie. I would love a continuation to Soul of The Dragon.
bruh someone just said that it's the top question
So I knew of and about all these characters prior, and watched because I wanted to see: their take on shiva, bronze tiger given the respect he deserves and lastly some curiosity about richard. So I enjoyed richard's role in it, but I wouldn't have watched it without shiva and bronze tiger most likely.
So it should have been *Soul Of The Dragon: Batman*
Who cares the film was sik, and the tune at the end smashed it
I want to see more of Richard Dragon and 70s martial arts. Coolest shit ever
Same thing that happened with JL Dark
Batman's presence was so unnecessary
But having him on the front cover makes it much more appealing.
Can someone explain why the song keeps cutting off a few seconds before an edit? it makes no sense most of the time.
Thank you, Watchtower Database, for taking me here from Twitter.
Agreed Was a solid movie any word on the sequel?
I sorta want it to get a sequel
Bruce Timm said they have plans for a sequel in an interview a while back. He said it depends on how well this movie does money wise. I checked a few days ago, and it looks like it’s doing very well ! A lot of blue ray copies sold at stores like Target. So, time will tell.
Bronze tiger and shiva stole this movie
Title it Batman: Bruce and the Soul of the Dragon. Make it before he becomes Batman, and that may re-focus things to Richard and the other characters.
And people will have an idea of what to expect going into it
Maybe that's way this movie earn a failure of 56% audience score on rotten tomatos.
It has 93% now
@@AcroNM Well, maybe next time they'll get it right on the next batman movie. Hopefully.
Good stuff. Think I might get this movie then.
Unfortunately it wouldn’t sell otherwise. But I still give them props for doing this movie at all.
I agree that Batman was not necessary and DC is making this same mistake again. I liked the of have a Animated film about the Justice Society fighting during WW2, but why throw in the Barry Allan Flash. I think WB is throwing in "recognizable" characters into stories that they don't fit into.
Just saw it, it was meh at best and batman was there for... reasons?
Justice League Flashpoint Paradox is not Justice League Movie it is a Flash Movie. Nobody noes who Richard Dragon mainstream has no idea
I agree Batman was really a missfit in this movie, if he was Bruce all way throught it would have made no diffrence. Now I do still like his scenes like the rice bowl one and hitting the rock. But I do also think Richard needed way more care, sure he was a nice guy who was ocasionally funny but that is it. Ben and Shiva had a lot of involment with the main plot then any other character.
I love the music that was great, the animation very nice with the combat. Maybe only O-Sensei looked a little off sometimes. I like the suprise ending. The guy with the glasses was a fun villian. Now the diffrence between Marvel being able to make Shang Chi is mostly that now Marvel is a brand name like Disney. They need only to put the name there to make people atleast look at it. This DVD movies are still obscure, in europe you never get to see commercials for this, they could just as well not exist. The market is minuscule so they are doing thier best and they got a lot of freedom or else sadly I don´t think they could do as much however they wanted like with Marvel animated stuff, what is the latest one you saw that did not take a que from the Marvel movies? I understand that my point could be used to point out mostly DC fans watch this movies so they can do this without Batman in the name.
But for now use Batman and Superman and even Justice League in name to promote this other characters. The people decide themself if they like to look them up and that will determine if this characters appel to the mainstream enough to give them thier own movies. It is a long term plan. They could never have done this without atleast one regonizable character on the cover. I will be happy when they can make a Green Lanthern or Arrow movie just focusing on them. I liked the first GL and I love to see them do GA too come on!
Richard Dragon movie for sure!!!
i would like to canonisze this movie in the comics
it was a pretty good movie tho
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I felt batman to be kinda unnecessary honestly. From I can remember he only appeared twice, once in the beginning and then in the end during the final act. Lastly that ending was kinda awkward, when it cut to black I was just like "that's it?" Like why did they go through the door, there was no need for that. All in all I still thought this movie was enjoyable.
I saw the movie I enjoyed it kept me entertained my only concern was the ending spoiler alert 🚨 don’t read if any further ..........
Ok ... I’m warning u
I believe that the cliffhanger has found a way to make a connection to maybe the Lazarus pit ? remember this is the door of a evil god the Easter egg we see at the end is the the green aura this aura is what the evil snake was saying that I believe makes him immortal ... so I believe the ending of all 3 of them walking in at the end is to keep evil immortality away from earth just a theory.
Richard Dragon used to be a Chuck Norris rip, but now he is a Bruce Lee rip. Made him cooler in my opinion
It's done to sell the movie. No one sells stuff better than Batman.
Yeah bro. DC will take anything and slap JL, Batman, or Superman on it because they don't have any faith in any other DC characters or brands. It's why DC will never be able to compete with Marvel. Marvel sells a universe while DC is just selling Batman 90% of the time.
I thought this was a fine movie, but yeah, Batman just feels unnecessary in this and it would've worked better just being a cool Martial Arts flick starring Richard Dragon.
I also didn't found it very much batman
It should’ve just been “soul of the dragon”
Yeah, it was good but it didn't really feel like a batman movie
YAY LA'RON'S BACK
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I thought it was a Bruce Lee and Batman movie team up
You just need Batman to sell the movie