DCS: 3v3 F-15 Eagle v Su-27 Flanker Squadron Tactics PvP
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So This video is a longer format then we are usually doing on this channel, I decided to make it so we could Jam pack it with information so in the first part of the video we do the in game of the flight and footage and then we do the group tacview you guys enjoyed from last time and then after that we go over the content with moltar who hosts the SATAL competitions and is a part of the 51 squadron in DCS and he talks us thru some awesome squadron tactics successful things we did and things we can improve on. So I really feel like this video is jam packed with awesome stuff for anyone who really wants to learn this stuff and is just a casual player in DCS/Beginner. I hope you guys enjoy the video and as always thank you for watching and your support on the channel. You guys are the best.
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"Tax Dollars At Work" lmao
Get Moltar to lead a 3 Vs 3 where you don't know what the enemy are flying. He is Tactically and strategically superior. Would like to see if he could orchestrate in a live theatre. Also in that scenario you need to be the lead on the opposing team, since you have the second best strategic and tactical abilities and we know your combat skills are high. I.e. in order to have balance you need to NOT be on the same team as Moltar.
I'd call that a Sunde split on the last splash.
Great name for it
And awesome news for Master J best wishes
A lot of su-27 and j-11 pilots in DCS think its good to stay low and to hide in mountains to try to pop off IR missiles, but the su-27/J-11 actually performs better in my experience when you fight at high altitudes just like the US jets. They have inferior weapons/radar systems in BVR but staying at high altitude gives you more options to easily deal with that. Fighting the F-15 will always be a little bit of a challenge but I do just fine in my su-27/J-11.
Nice video!!! And what about one dogfhight between the f-22 and su-27 or 33
why didnt you want to fallow them into the mountains?
This should be in eSports!
Yeah
High cost, and high equiptment
I think it is or at least they have tournaments that are commentated
This is more complex and awesome than any esports game.
SATAL is DCS’s esports competitive league.
5:50 I accidentally said out loud "Oh thats sexy, oh that's hot" and my flatmate comes in like "yeah you want me to close the door?"
😂
Relatable
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Thank you, as a father with two children I have very few opportunities to really relax. Drinking a bloody mary on the couch while watching this fit the bill, and the rumbling jets soothed my 'tism. Please make more like this, very well edited!
thanks so much man, i'm really happy you enjoyed it. I appreciate the kind feedback man.
You and me both brother. Hang on and get these babies to teenagers already. Sure that comes with it's own hard times,but bye bye to the diapers and constant worry what they are doing,and long long nights 😂
24:10 poor guy ejected into the ground!!! OUCHIE!
I think that was just the seat
Sorry nevermind xD
varmint87 it's a hard knock life
Dude I fliched when that happened!!! LOL
Just saw this comment, had the same reaction I guess.
Russians are known for surviving low altitude ejections. (Ukraine I think had that horrible air show crash where the jet hit the ground and flew through and drug a fence through a crowd of people)
th-cam.com/video/9RdY0EAkUaY/w-d-xo.html
Pilot survived though, but he was still seated where the cockpit was pointed towards the sky..
Then there’s another air show crash where the ejection seat from a Russian air craft, ejected in what I’ll call a negative position or upside down almost, but the seat was able to eject out and then back up in a successful attempt to get the pilot out and back up so the chute could deploy. I believe that the pilot survived that as well.
one of the best fight i have ever seen in dcs the order the formation the tactics . beautiful man and amazing tackview
Ahmed Naser thanks man glad you enjoyed it
You are levelling up things here. In the future we are gonna have 16v16 and then 64v64 lol
The Ago hahaha not sure my computer could handle it. Would be awesome tho
@@GrowlingSidewinder Give it a couple of iterations GS
The pair of su27 did one of the Best take offs i ve ever seen
george Χαριτος I agree that was beautiful
lol the russians had enough of "Tax Dollars at Work" and took off without them.
This is definitely what I like to see. One of my favorite so far.
0:09 All aircraft, form up on Trigger, nice and tight!
You play ac7?
A man of great taste.
"Why?! What good is that?!"
Looks like the Strider Squadron introduction xd
Huzzah! A man of quality
That name tax dollars at work 😂😂
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Congrats to Master jay! Im very curious as to why you are still using th AIM-9L rather than the AIM-9X ? Do please Tell. I've seen the AIM-9X in person. The pilots even say it has suburb characteristics. Care to explain?
zwanso the 9x is not available in DCS for the f15 only the f18 can carry it
@@GrowlingSidewinder Are you kidding me?? I'm disappointed to hear that. Thanks for the response!
@@zwanso ya its a shame, no problem man
can i have request a battle plz. between miraje tapy 5 with f14.🙏🙏🙏🙏
How much time do you put into this game!? Blows my mind how easy you make things look!
oh man it look a long time, lot of practice, it gets easier tho over time once you pick up the main concepts.
heck yea bro another video!!!, and another heck yea for MasterJay & his Wife!!!!
Thanks man!
Wow Didn't expect for this many likes nor Growling Sidewinder to love my comment and Master Jay J to Respond too... Best day ever!!! ( thanks guys )
Get Moltar to lead a 3 Vs 3 where you don't know what the enemy are flying. He is Tactically and strategically superior. Would like to see if he could orchestrate in a live theatre. Also in that scenario you need to be the lead on the opposing team, since you have the second best strategic and tactical abilities and we know your combat skills are high. I.e. in order to have balance you need to NOT be on the same team as Moltar.
Watch satal, there you can see moltar facing off against even enemies
When those missiles hit the sound effects are just fantastic, and scary!
That was amazingly fun! I feel like I'm a better pilot now for watching this. Still green as can be, but every good piece of advice lets you get closer. Thanks so much!
Glad you found it useful brother
You have great vid and congratulations to master Jay.
Wooohooo masterjay!!! Congratulations to ur family 🎉🍾🎊🎈
Thank you GS for this video. I was able to learn a lot of stuff. I hope that more videos like this will come in the future.
Also, congratulations to masterJ and his wife.
Anish lal my pleasure thanks for watching, plenty more like this to come in the future
Congratulations MasterJay! Here's to a wonderful life!
This is awesome!!! The PvP fights are so intense and interesting. Please make more of these videos and keep up the good work.
Lee Schmager glad you enjoyed and thank u plenty more like this to come
Awsome video man. I really liked that last tac view with moltar discussing the tactics and everything.
Kaleb Garringer glad you enjoyed it man hoping to learn lots from moltar in the future
You should do a video on military aviation terms and stuff like that (for beginners like me)
He did a video on that 😛
This was an awesome video and I definitely appreciate the amount of work that must have gone into it, from mission set up to video editing and voice over. Excellent work!!
Roken thanks man ya this took a hell of a long time to set up always nice when someone realizes the effort that goes into this stuff. Glad you enjoyed.
This type of scenario is a great way to illustrate how important managing the BVR and Edge of Visual Range fights are, avoiding WVR as much as possible even when limited to 1990s-era fighters and missiles.
When you factor modern AESAs, midcourse-guided BVR missiles that have cooperative guidance, higher bandwidth data links, and everyone with HMS-cued HOBS missiles, the stand-off ranges and threat bubbles increase even more.
Now imagine having VLO platforms in high altitude perch looking down with fused sensors data, allowing the F-15Cs to maintain EMCON in this scenario, and acting as AEWAC/ EW, with the ability to do terminal guidance for weapons.
Jesus christ I just read gibberish haha. You need to know all of the acronyms in the world to understand what you wrote xD.
@@Schmidty1
BVR= Beyond Visual Range
WVR= Within Visual Range
AESA= Active Electronically Scanned Array (RADAR)
HMS= Helmet Mounted Sight
HOBS= High Off-Boresight System Missile
VLO= Very Low Observable (Stealth)
EMCON= Emissions Control
AEWAC= Airborne Early Warning And Control
EW= Electronic Warfare
That was really nothing. In any profession, you will learn a separate language with all kinds of jargon and acronyms to for brevity communication.
The MiG-29, Su-27 and all their derivatives and variants have such cool and intimidating looks, especially when fully armed.
Congrats MasterJay J! And another great vid Sidewinder!
Thanks brother much appreciated.
Growling Sidewinder and no need to apologize for providing us with over an hour of content, dude we should be thanking you for it 😂! Thanks brotha!
Congratulations to MasterJay!
Another great video. 3 vs 3 p2p....awesome.
GS once another awesome video brother! Finally got started in DCS yesterday and holy shit it’s intense and bad ass! It’ll be literally a hundreds of hours before I’m anywhere near what you guys are doing lol. Keep putting up these videos so us newbs can learn from the best!
Masterjay, congratulations on the birth of your baby girl!
thanks brother, ya man its an intense sim, just remember to take ur time and dont burn yourself out, it can be a lot of fun once you get the hang of it.
Yooo!! I died at the whole “I’m coming on him” thing! 🤣🤣🤣
That's why there is so much snow
24:08 Oh man. He ejected right into the snow. Gruesome death, that one!
Great adventure. High quality video with whole tactic analysis. And review from an expert. And the game itself is a masterpiece. Many aspects are close to IRL.
Tomasm21 thanks buddy glad you enjoyed it
You’ve reached another level my friend, the amount of effort your putting into these now are making for must see viewing well done to all....and thanks to all involved.... this has got very slick in a great way.
thanks man I appreciate it very much, its always nice when someone notices the effort that goes into these. Much appreciated brother.
Super interesting to watch, great fight on both sides. I enjoyed seeing the tactics adapt to the situation it really showed how each side tried to make the most of their respective strengths. Cool!
An hour long video.....bro this is a real treat! Thank you!!
J Sing my pleasure man I'm glad you enjoyed it
Excelent video!! Great Final Analisys!
Haven’t watched but Christmas has come early!
Dude every video recently has been getting longer and longer.
I LOVE IT!
will have to watch this in two parts.
AvidGamer thanks buddy and ya I think in the future ill try and limit the videos to like 35mins max but this one just had so much info I wanted to get out to u guys. I didn't want to break it up and stuff. I figured people knew what a pause button was and could take a break as they desired.
It's all good here.
The mighty eagles are victorious, nice flying gentlemen.
thanks buddy
Loving the subliminal messages @57:30
Thanks for the nice video.
And congratulations, MasterJay.
I pay tribute to your wonderful strategy and implementation.
my pleasure glad you enjoyed
Superb, @Growling Sidewinder.
This longer format (quasi- short story) is great. Looking forward for more.
Great video guys! I am not much of a gamer, but, I was a F-15 mechanic for a while. Can a person actually switch buttons in the cockpit? I saw a difference in ramp (engine intake) configuration on the runway before launch. When all three F-15's were poised at End of Runway, the two in the back looked like the L/R Intake switches were still in the emergency position. I'm not sure what the performance is during a computer simulation, but, I know it would greatly affect real flight performance. Just a fan commenting.
Hey man ya ur right, the FC3 models tho are a little lower fidelity other aircraft are fully modelled tho so you can control that kind of stuff, the hornet for example every button is clickable they’re working on a full fidelity strike eagle tho.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Thank you brother for the reply!
@@jamespalumbo6346 my pleasure man
Just came back to watch this one for the 3rd time and only now did I manage to appreciate the value of Moltar's commentsm so VERY glad you took that unusual step of a 2nd Tacview- no shortage of lessons here!
Only regret is that no significant attention paid to Nylop's situation. Not only don't know WHY he had so much difficulty tracking the SU's, but why was there no effective response to his reported confusion? I'm sure IF Moltar had heard the audio, he'd have lots to say about a squadron's response in such a dangerous scenario.
That's what I love about you kid your parents raised you right that was good of you to give a shout out to masterjay like that
thanks man, ya well masterjay is a great guy happy to give him some spot light where i can
Great channel, high quality work and extremely educational for people that are coming into DCS world. I'm into it since Flanker 2.0 and I like all aspects of DCS flying but this is the one that I caught myself way too many times eyerolling just because of negligence for the Red Force and sometimes overpowering Blue (only in certain aspects I must say). Both jets here are just basic models, almost on the arcade level but when we put that aside, there is this overpowered AIM-120C, God almighty missile that is incredibly hard to avoid even though it is on-field proven that has pretty low PK. This missile has better radar than all jets combined and it's just way too hard to avoid which is again, not by accounts that US and Serbian pilots have encountered during 1999 bombing. You can see it here in the interview with F-15C pilot Mike "Dozer" Shower th-cam.com/video/qABnIDOcyS8/w-d-xo.html in which he basically acknowledged 33% of PK. Keep in mind that those MiG-29 had radar and RWR failure. The only thing that worked fine are the engines. You have greater chance of notching F-15C own radar than AMRAAM's that is size of needle point when compared to it. Great flying but when AIM-120 got off the rail it really became a bit cringy to watch (this is pointed out to ED, just to be clear). I guess that they went into creating good flight model of the missile but just rolled the dice and choose to have much better PK and better performance in "electronic" area. On the other side, they really bashed Russian A/A missiles without any good basis for it. Don't get me wrong... my favourite jets are F-14B, F-5E and Viggen but it doesn't feel right when you win or loose in those two particular jets (F-15C, SU-27 + MiG-29) as deep down you know it's rigged.
24:10 poor guy ejected into the ground!!! OUCHIE!
Awesome stuff man, been watching heaps of your content lately I even bought the f-18 and f-15 on dcs
thanks man, congratulations on joining the community, always nice to hear new people joining.
@@GrowlingSidewinder yeah thanks man I’m still learning the f-18 atm it’s a lot to take in
The over "g" message sounded like she was saying "Ovaltine" to me for a lot longer than I want to admit. My dumbass just thought at first, "Oh they must sponsor the game."
Fuck me I can't unhear that now BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Sunde's guns at 29:30 ripping that wing off like a f***ing bandsaw. Getting a guns kill is always worth bragging about, doing it while still packing two sidewinders... badass.
Spent 6 years of my life swapping parts in a Strike Eagle. one of the best jobs I ever had.
I'd love to see you do a video with the a10 warthog, and see how far back in date you'd have to go to where it's evenly matched with older outdated fighters, obviously the a10 is made for ground strikes not air to air, I just think it would make an interesting video lol and I really like the a10. and I'd love to see videos with the f4 phantom
Hey there, just found your channel, it is fantastic, world class presenting / production too. Just going to work through them all. Regards 🛩
Love the 3v3. One thing I'll say about the R-27 variants is that after yechnical exploitation of scores of them gained from the East Germans on the MiG-29s, the pK was close to zero, a really POS missile in the history of AAMs.
The R-73, on the contrary, was scary effective and pushed a lot of thinking in NATO on the ASRAAM.
The US Navy had pioneered AIM-9G & VTAS/SEAM in the late 1960s with HMS in the F-4B/J, but it didn't catch on with the rest of the US air component forces, although the concept was further developed in the AFTI F-16 starting in 1978.
This simulator is amazing. But these teams seamed a bit unbalanced tactics-wise.
Stumbled in here on your channel for no reason, didn't really know why one of your videos got recommended but I've been binge-watching your stuff for the last 9 hrs and have to head of for work now. I've watched 3-4 of your sessions with the french rafale-guy, your Huey vs. Hind thing (funny af, still feel the pain from pretty much constant laughing...) and now I've seen this one as a last one (for the moment!). Love the fighting and the in depth analysis afterwards. Really good work on your side, chapeau!
Maybe I will get into this game myself. Never wanted to play stuff like that because I've always said I don't play what I've used to do for work but either my mentality changed a bit or it's enough time passed by now.
So until next time!
thanks for the comment and for checking out the channel, I really appreciate the kind comments.
Tactics and coordination this is what matters a lot! Enjoyed watching the fight
"i'm coming on him"
must be where the growling in your name comes from.
yikes
JC lol I didn't even notice I said that until I was editing the video. One of those dumb things ur brain says in the heat of the moment
Hey man love the vids you putting out. I was wondering what’s a cheaper set up that I can still play the game with? And is there a easier mode of the game like without having to push all the buttons? hahahah I would love to play this game just looks to complicated lmao
Definitely do it Johnathan, I picked up a Thrustmaster T16000M hotas (with pedals) on sale for $130. It would be considered a starter set up but does everything you need in DCS. There's plenty of tutorials in game and on TH-cam, also scenarios that you don't have to go through the start up process of a fidelity fighter. It takes time and patience but worth it.
Could we please have some videos with the Indian Flanker?
Love your videos. I'm learning so much. My only flight experience is an introductory lesson on a Cessna 152!
I play Wing Over Europe sometimes but only with moderate realism. I'm out of my element with legitimate dog fighting tactics. I only have a joystick with a throttle on it. I'd love to get the equipment to do this kind of stuff.
It's really incredible how great this looks. Is it possible to play with VR? Also, is there a certian tactical advantage to being over the water instead of land?
thanks a lot man, ya you can use VR if you like, also, the radar worked better over water cuz of less terrain interference, just a better situational awareness picture.
Nice man, i like you vídeos xd
Maurício Vaz thanks brother
Wow 1hr+ !! Much appreciated brother
my pleasure man I hope its useful
@@GrowlingSidewinder I don't have the game, but I love the way the video presents a situation of a dogfight and tactics to survive, pure entertainment!!!
Could jets ever fly nearby big snow mountains
It was like a whole course. Greatly informative and educational. Thank you and all your participating guys.
glad you found it helpful man thanks for watching
Can you guys do something like a 2v2 with AI teammates?
For example, 2 players flying Su-35’s + an AI teammate vs 2 players flying Eurofighter Typhoons + an AI teammate
Any reason why you guys aren't using BRA format brevity comms? Would make things go a lot smoother, quicker SA, shorter traffic.
For some reason my cat really likes your videos. :)
GS, the explosion sounds you add in would be better if they were delayed to represent the point of view of the camera.
wurzzzz ya I've tried it I don't like it. Even tho ur right it would be technically delayed before it got to the camera
Can you fly russians next? And have the ones who flew the russians become americans?
Great vid Growling. Your game looks beautifull too, what mods are you using?
thank you man, i'm using only "reshade" to make the colors pop a little. thats all.
The cinematic footage is incredible!
So good!
Anyone know if DCS is going to make a F15E sim, with pilot and wso?
Another amazing video!!! Got a new 65 inch and watching yours video now on it!!!!
thanks man grateful to have supporters like you, hope ur enjoying that 65incher
Thanks for the video, you put a lot of effort into it. It shows and is appreciated. I would like to add though that Sundre was pulling over 12g in his turn with the gun kill. Hell of a stomach cruncher!
Are these guys flanker pilots normally? I'm watching mistakes typically made by new Flanker pilots going against an F-15 armed with AiM-120's.
Ghost doing evasive against an AiM-120 like a new Flanker pilot
Viking firing ET and ER's at the same time, big waste as the F-15 is going to drop chaff and flares. Locking on your radar to them just tells the F-15 pilot, hey, I'm shooting missiles at you! Typical mistake of new Flanker pilots.
And the only one that seems to do ok is Tax.
And they should have stayed in the mountains. Yes, the F-15's have the altitude and angle advantage, but DCS missile mechanics is stupid and they hate mountains. Those 120's would hit the mountains if you know how to do evasive in those canyons.
Fair enough. Thing in DCS is though, the 15's have TWS and can lob off AMRAAM's to then go cold. We Flankers can't. The ET + ER tactic is a valid strat, coming from below. His nose (field of view) will block whatever is infront and right below him and he won't see the ET launch. Had GS not called everyone to go cold at that moment my ET would have killed him, as I saw him defend (go cold) I fired an ER and had to stay exposed longer to guide it and make sure I actually got the kill and not over-exposed myself for far too long for no reason, which eventually got me killed since GS and Sunde were a lot closer than expected. When you fly that low most guys don't scan down enough or try to scan what's further ahead of them, expecting the enemy to be farther away, somewhere in the mountains. If we stayed in the mountains it would have been a stalemate - not fun or really engaging. One thing to take away though is that communication between us was rather poor and Xoho kind of deviated from the plan and just YOLO-ed into an AMRAAM. :P
@@Kolobochok95 Thanks for the response and explains what was going on here.
If boring was the issue, you guys should have just played this without the AiM-120, would have been more engaging and interesting then. Or at least with the R-77. It's the only reason why us Flanker pilots never fly high and develop low altitude tactics instead.
As you had the initiative to bait them in, but decided to YOLO to save time and make it less boring, but we didn't get to see some DCS Flanker tactics against an opponent with superior BVR weapons. Sure it's boring, but it keeps me on top of the score board and it would teach other pilots how to fly against superior firepower, no matter what plane. Video could have been cropped to make it shorter, so who cares. We would get a nice analysis by Growling in tacview then, as a lot of F-15 DCS pilots make some huge mistakes and feel over confident in them (As Growling did in his dive, would have ended differently in the mountains and if the flanker pilot knew how to counter).
Hi Sidewinder,
Any possibilities of making A/A only gun dogfight and give us some tips and PEARLS about energy management during gun dogfight?
Just want to say that after 2 years of playing DCS, I finally did my first multiplayer flyout on your Caucasus server. I was always a multiplayer guy but kinda hesitant about DCS. Had the feeling that I would always die without even knowing it. Ended up getting three fucking kills. Two Hornets and an Eagle iirc. Great fun. Will surely fly on there more.
Crazy cause I just saw the server up for the recording of this video looking forward to seeing who wins 🤷🏾♂️#growling#sidewinder
good eye bro, i always wondered if people saw the recording server go up
@@GrowlingSidewinder yea for sure I always notice the things people think people shouldn't notice, but you do a really good job on the servers and you have very rich combat and pilot need to knows.
Flankers needed one high guy to give the low guys the situation and path to sneak. More over their attack was one by one against 3 aircrafts when it should have been a combined force attack to aggressively move into the fur ball and causing confusion.
Not gonna happen with them having TWS and being able to lob off multiple AMRAAM's to then go cold.
Just one thing, more of an observation: the lead on takeoff sets throttle to 97% to allow others to controll the distance
39:21 you point out the mistakes, but if he was to commit tours the missiles while turning 6G force he could of went cold, but the Su-27 would have spotted him and gun him down. 40:20 That is good performance (Viking 1-1) in the Flanker, me personally would never expose my rear end to the enemy, but he was low to the deck and manage to get the missile off by flaring, which is perfect, but still give up your tail for the enemy which is closing in. Love the video and learning from your interception PvP match keep it up GS.
Love your intro, also just joined the discord. Congrats to MasterJay and his wife. Growling you should try War Thunder, it’s free to play and allows you to fly planes, command tanks, pilot helicopters, and drive war ships, but it’s all war based so you can keep flying planes and all that, and also love how the video goes back and forth between your side and Russia, gives it more of a story. Peace.
Thanks man glad you enjoyed it. I'm hesitant about war thunder but who knows what the future holds.
Growling Sidewinder Broken underperforming F4 phantom and over performing MiG 19 that’s what the future holds so far 😂.
I want to try this game out, but I don't have any equipment (joystick) nor any knowledge about airplanes. How should I start?
I am aware the free version of this game comes with the p-51 and Su-25. How do you learn about all the damn buttons? Are there books for it, webpages? Something? Halp.
Love these fights.
Unable to qualify for flight training (eyes) I can live vicariously
It's been said but I repeat, durn fine editing.
Watching the Eagle flight depart I mumbled quietly, "We about to go a-huntin' bear . . "
There is some incredibly beautiful shots of the jets taking off or just a beautiful back grounds shots. They just had a guy say he was going up to 40, plus thousand feet and shoot some missle and creat Chaos? Making danger sound fun, but not for the enemy.
Sundae did good. And you got a good hunch about the enemy where abouts. Was really good video .is good tactics but more acción is better. Next time f 22 vrs su57.
When an AMRAAM is on your ass, then barrel-fucking-roll. It seems to work pretty well for me on your server when I'm pursuited by F-15s on my J-11.
ManLo
Is this an actual fighter simulator game. Because I been playing the russian flanker 27 game that came out in 2003 very old now I no but what a plane for PC gaming I just prefer PC gaming so please let me no if this is a game for PC what specs one needs amoung other components thank you ,Mann Daken
I don't play games on the PC, but I want to play this game. Can you recommend a budget pc, keyboard and joystick to to play this game? The keyboard and joystick don't have to be budget lol, I just don't want to spend a ton of money on a gaming pc.
this was epic af..The russian tax payer is pissed
Callum Wearne hahah ya it seems that way.
Вообще похуй)) Это игрушка)
That Russian base taxi way, and runway has far to little debris, spare parts, and garbage strewn about. Lol have u ever seen a Russian military runway? It's absolutely filthy and covered in potentially lethal objects to run into.
Hey quick question: How can you be sure that your aim-120 will hit the bandit? What if he tries to notch it or use chaff ? And why will it be ineffective?