The STUPIDEST MOMENT of Bart Starr's CAREER | Vikings @ Packers (1977)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2025
- Yes, you read that quote in the thumbnail correctly. No, he was not joking or kidding when he said that. Yes, he was that bad as a head coach
The 1977 season was a disaster for the Green Bay Packers, especially after a loss to the Minnesota Vikings in week 11 to drop them to 2-9. However, in the eyes of head coach Bart Starr, the Viking loss wasn't that bad, because if they had just won that game, this season would be a success and the record wouldn't be as bad. Yeah, he actually said that
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As a quarterback he was Bart Starr. As a coach, he was Patrick Star
You got me there
‘If we’d won all those games we lost, we’d have a winning record’
“Yeah, and if a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its a** when it hopped” - Tia Carrere in the “Wayne’s World” movie
*Now this is a coach whose quotes John Madden would like*
Oh my! JPP out here catching strays! 😂
"If we'd won all those games we lost, we'd have a winning record!"
"It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the bottom!!"
I'm not sure how he thought 3-8 would be viewed so much differently than 2-9 would've been viewed. His team was a Dumpster fire either way. His name and what he meant to the Packers are the only things that allowed him to keep his job much longer than he had any right to keep it.
“If our losses were wins, we’d be a good team”. Yeah, and if I was 7 feet tall, I’d be in the NBA
Ah, the gift that keeps on giving (though not the extent of all those 1982 season videos); the post-Lombardi/pre-Holmgren era Packers.
Bart Starr holds the dubious record; along with Marvin Lewis; of the most ties by a head coach since overtime was introduced in 1974 with 3. And the Packers in 1983 set an NFL record by playing in 5 overtime games.
To think that Bart Starr could have gotten his QB a better quarterback rating by just clicking the card in the upper right corner on every play.
Some of those years, he might have done well just to activate himself and play quarterback! But then again, he wouldn't have wanted to play behind those lousy O-lines either.
He was a poor coach. But he also had a lot of very bad players, and that was not his fault. Once Lynn Dickey and James Lofton came into their own in the early 1980s, Starr was 21-19-1 in his last three seasons as head coach, and Forrest Gregg didn't do any better after him.
Problem was that even though Packers got better on offense with an improved, productive, and potent offense, their defenses still lagged far behind even as GB began to contend a bit more starting in 1981 and trading for top-tier WR James Jefferson due to a contract dispute.
If Packers defenses had been a top 15-20-ish ranked from 1981-83, they probably would've had winning seasons every year, possibly wouldve won the weaker old NFC Central( back the early 80's, Minnesota was sort of mini-rebuild mode, and teams like Tampa Bay and Detroit were division winners at 9-7 records, a better, stronger defense likely wins Pack those division titles instead), and more playoff success. From 1981, 1983-85, Green Back went .500 caliber football, those are seasons where they could or should have won extra few games. Green Bay went into week 16 of 1981 season @ Jets with a chance of a playoff berth if they won, they ended up being blown out by New York like 42-16.
I'm a Packers fan but I still found this video absolutely hilarious😂
I'm a Vikings fan and I remember sweating this one out. Yeah, the Packers were terrible, but one Minnesota mistake and its' maybe a tie ball game. It was an old-fashioned 1920s-style defensive struggle.
That said, Starr's quote remains as asinine as ever. It's not like they would have been 7-5 or something if the Packers had won. They still sucked.
“If our losses were wins we’d have a successful season”-Captain Obvious
bro said the most obvious thing to mankind
"It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the bottom!"
Starr was a great QB, a great man off the field who impacted countless lives, but he was a lousy head coach.
One thing about Bart the coach: his players were insanely loyal to him
If only all the losses the Indianapolis Colts have had since 1984 were wins, you'd think they were the best franchise ever.
"Bart Starr might have a point!" He wasn't wearing his hat, so we all could see it.
That's why legends don't end up being great head coaches. An exception being Bill Russell.
Got Bart Starr, Mike Munchak, Mike Ditka, Raymond Berry (took my Pats to the super bowl) for football to Ted Williams (due to Bob Short's pettiness) and Alan Trammell for baseball to Magic Johnson coaching the Lakers in mid 90s.
Raymond Berry had a far better HC run with New England than Starr did in almost a decade in Green Bay. He had a winning season every season he coached except his last and he was the HC that finally made those very good, talented, but often I underachieving mid/late 70's-mid 80's Pats teams to realize some of their lost, missed potential they'd allowed to slip by them for 10 years. How many seasons from 1976-88 did New England end up having winning records but no playoffs? You guys were winning 9,10 games a season and sitting on your couches by January because back then, AFC West was a murderer's row ultra-tough division and you guys always seemed to be 1-2 wins behind. Berry finally realized some of that great potential Fairbanks had drafted back in early-to-mid 70's with Francis, Nelson, Grogan, Adams, Hannah, Morgan, Fryar, I suppose to. You made it to the post-season and did something remarkable: you made it to the Super Bowl. May have gotten wiped out by Chicago, but you got there.
Mmm, yes. This floor is indeed made of floor, Bart. Thanks for clearing that up! XD
(That Guy Alert) In fairness to Starr, he topped off revised wins at five, and included their loss to Washington as a woulda coulda shoulda. HST…
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made an opus about Bears Quarterback Rudy Bukich doing similar revisionism in 1966.
Failure is just success rounded down.
8:30 Which is worse than if you did nothing but spike the ball to the ground on every single play.
As a Bart Starr fan This is hard to watch, but truth is a Great Qb does not necessarily.................mean anything then they were a great QB. I am still and will always be a Bart Starr fan! He was a Great Man!
Even Wayne Gretzky, the Great One himself, was a terrible head coach. He spent four years as the coach of the Phoenix Coyotes from 2005-9, not making the playoffs in any them, and resigned following the team’s ownership group declaring bankruptcy, finishing with a record of 143-161-24.
Well, he was the best coach we had after Lombardi and before Holmgren.
You do get fired 🔥 up about this stuff
I always wonder how Bart Starr would have been as a head coach if he had an actual GM, instead of trying to do both, need to do bad decisions on GM’s too. Bob Harlan was with Packers FO and when he became team president he said he remembered how Starr struggled doing both and wouldn’t put a one person in both positions, but he did with Mike Sherman, teamed lived off Ron Wolf’s drafts for a couple years and realized Packers needed a actual GM so Sherman could focus on coaching and hired Ted Thompson in 2004, too little too late. Packers bottomed out in 2005 with Sherman’s bad drafts and was fired after 4-12 season…that’s where Packers are in 2023 with GuteDUHkunst’s bad drafts catching up with Packers now and he’s not even a head coach so he has no excuse, he’s just not a good talent evaluator, one or two lucky guesses does not make him a good GM.
At 8:10, you just had to go there.
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This is a guy who should have been fired multiple times, if not for his name and player legacy.
We need a Bart Starr movie.
I'm guessing that Fran Tarkenton was injured by the time this game was played?
If the Chicago bears won as many games as they lost, they’d be super bowl contenders
With that logic, every doctor delivering a cancer diagnosis should just tell the patient “You have ice cream,” instead. Because ice cream is better than cancer and the patient will be happier. Wouldn’t chance the facts, but they’d be happy.
If he caught that touchdown pass he would have gotten a touchdown
Ah, yes, the snow game. The vikings' white uniforms helped them hide amongst the snow. Also, bart, you've won 2 games. The season is over. The team is ass
Jason Pierre Paul 😂😂
Think it’s a better setup with you centered in the live shot instead of off to the side.
Oh no you didn’t say JPP!!
I think Starr had one too many concussions
Skol Vikings!!! JPP getting dogged out and had nothing to do with this.
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Big deal. Starr was a great qb. Not so great coach. He was no lombardi. Great players don't make great coaches.