The STUPIDEST FAN CONTROVERSY in Arizona Cardinals HISTORY | Packers @ Cardinals (2000)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2025
- In week 4 of the 2000 NFL season, following a 29-3 loss to the Green Bay Packers, Arizona Cardinals defensive end Brad Ottis was fed up at the turnout at Sun Devil Stadium, as the stadium was overrun by Packers fans. Because of this, Ottis decided to speak his mind. And he went about this in the weirdest way possible, where it was as though he was completely oblivious to the idea that out-of-market fans exist. This is the story behind the dumb controversy involving the Cardinals and their fans
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Members of the 2000 Packers:
Brett Favre
Danny Wuerfell
Ryan Longwell
Josh Bidwell
Matt Hasselbeck
Allen Rossum
Gary Berry
De’Mond Parker
Antuan Edwards
Dorsey Levens
Tod McBride
Basil Mitchell
Herbert Goodman
Ahman Green
Chris Akins
William Henderson
Mike McKenzie
LeRoy Butler
Tyrone Williams
Jason Moore
Darren Sharper
Scott McGarrahan
Matt Snider
KD Williams
Brian Williams
Frank Winters
Mike Morton
Nate Wayne
Bernardo Harris
Eugene McCaslin
Chris Gizzi
Mike Flanagan
Na’il Diggs
Rob Davis
Marco Rivera
Raleigh McKenzie
Mark Tauscher
Russell Maryland
Mike Wahle
Santana Dotson
Earl Dotson
Chad Clifton
Ross Verba
Barry Stokes
Donald Driver
Tyrone Davis
Charles Lee
Ryan Wetnight
Bill Schroeder
Corey Bradford
Antonio Freeman
Bubba Franks
Vonnie Holliday
John Thierry
Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
Steve Warren
David Bowens
Cletidus Hunt
Billy Lyon
Austin Robbins
Mike Sherman (head coach)
Members of the 2000 Cardinals:
Scott Player
Bryan Gilmore
Chris Greisen
Cary Blanchard
Jake Plummer
Dave Brown
MarTay Jenkins
Clarence Williams
Tom Knight
Corey Chavous
Thomas Jones
Tommy Bennett
Michael Pittman
Joel Makovicka
Aeneas Williams
David Barrett
Dennis McKinley
Pat Tillman
Justin Lucas
Kwamie Lassiter
Jason Starkey
Johnny Rutledge
Zack Walz
Mark Maddox
Sekou Sanyika
Raynoch Thompson
Ronald McKinnon
James Folston
Rob Frederickson
Mike Gruttaduria
Tony McCoy
Norbert Davidds-Garrido
Anthony Clement
Ethan Brooks
Chris Dishman
Yusuf Scott
LJ Shelton
Lester Holmes
Jabari Issa
Matt Joyce
Darwin Walker
Mao Tosi
Terry Hardy
Frank Sanders
Mac Cody
Tywan Mitchell
Chris Gedney
Trey Junkin
Jay Tant
David Boston
Andre Wadsworth
Barron Tanner
Mark Smith
Corey Sears
Tom Burke
Brad Ottis
Simeon Rice
Russell Davis
Dave McGinnis (head coach)
Vince Tobin (head coach)
As a Bucs fan, I know what having Packers fans take over your stadium is like. I attended the Packers/Bucs 1996 season opener (Tony Dungy's head coaching debut with the Bucs) and I was surrounded by fans wearing dark green and yellow. As a 15-year-old kid, I felt a bit like an outsider in my club's own venue. The Tampa Bay Area has tons of transplants from the Northeast and the Midwest, so some Packers fans already live here and it's not much of a Southern region despite being located in the South as a result.
With that said, Ottis needs to learn how fandom works, especially in the Valley of the Sun, which, like the Tampa Bay Area, has tons of Midwestern transplants.
Reminds me of Bud Adams blowing his top after the Oilers' season finale in '97 after temporarily moving to Memphis. The team was supposed to stay in Memphis two years before moving to Nashville where a new stadium was being built for them, but so many Steelers fans took over the Liberty Bowl (I was there) that he threw a hissyfit and moved them to Nashville a year early to play in Vanderbilt's stadium thus completely defeating the whole point of having them in Memphis to begin with.
You were there too. Lol. That's awesome.
@@unum1979 WELL.yes and no. It's the only NFL game I've attended in person, but there was drizzling rain the whole time and my friend and I forgot to take any sort of seat cushions so we stood the whole game. 25 years ago we could do that without a problem. Our tickets were supposed to be in the nosebleed section, but so few people were there that we just wandered down a few dozen rows and nobody stopped us.
Yeah I mean what did he expect?? They were only gonna be there 2 years, it's not like Memphis was getting an NFL team. I think that whole season was basically away games for the Oilers
We got the tickets at church. They were telling us to go out and support the team to build rapport so the city could potentially get a team in the future or get them to relocate from Nashville permanently or something. At 18 I knew that wasn't going to happen but was not about to turn down free tickets to an NFL game.
Hope that team suffers for refusing to give up the Oilers name. #curseofbudadams
When you go 3-13 with ten of the losses by double figures, you should be happy to have any paying customers in the stands, regardless of who they are rooting for.
Hey, every time I go to Yankee Stadium I’ll buy the cap of whatever team they’re playing against. I don’t think that’s so out of line.
Growing up in Arizona I remember that being a bit of a meme for a while I don't know anyone who actually got road jerseys for the joke but have known more than one person who said they were anti-fans as a joke
he should have directed his anger at cardinal management , whose bad decision making led to bad teams as a result and usually there would be more fans rooting for the other team
Brad Ottis sounds ignorant
The Houston Texans had just gotten their name and logo less than three weeks before this, and they were still more relevant than the Cards were in 2000. What type of fantasy world was Ottis in to think the Cards were even worth hating to that degree anyway?
Brad Ottis sounds delusional
The Cardinals problem will always be that in 90% of their games most of the fans will be cheering for the opposing team. A lot of people move to Arizona but they still keep their hometown team.
Because of your channel, I've gotten into watching old games on TH-cam. I think nearly every game I watch has at least 3 interesting factoids about it that would make for good videos on this channel. No worries about you running out of content any time soon.
Gotta admit I was expecting something way more egregious than this
Reminds me of going to Jags home games when they play the Steelers and the entire stadium has yellow/black terrible towels in my face. Excellent video! Really good story
jags has home games?
@@kx4998 at Wembly
BTW MIke Gruttadauria is one of the all-time most underrated great names in NFL history.
Tbh, if I lived in Boston and had unlimited resources, I would totally go to every game to hate on the fucking Patriots.
Matthew Daley would too, I suspect.
@@DolFan316 I would also go with him
The Raiders usually make up at least 50+% of the fans when they play the Cardinals in Arizona, the Cowboys and 49ers usually about 60+%.
This reminds me of when my Eagles played the Chargers in L.A. a few years ago nothing but a beautiful sea of midnight green jerseys
I'm an Eagles fan living in the Buffalo area; when I went to the Eagles @ Bills game in October 2019, it was either 50-50 Eagles to Bills fan... or more so in the Eagles' favor. In any event, we had a blast as Philly stuffed Buffalo by a 31-13 final! As my wife and I walked over to the nearby Tim Horton's, every bar/grill, and even the Tim Horton joint, was heavily populated by the Eagles' colors!
I'm an Eagles fan & I'm in jail. There's a lot if us here
The only Otis Cardinal that matters is Jim Otis from STL days.
What about Ottis Anderson
As a Bills fan, we travel hella well. Nashville, Vegas, Jersey at times can sound like a Bills home game. The canceled COVID Raiders vs Bills game, the owner actually added more away tickets because Buffalo rolls deep. I even experienced this in 2012. The Sabres were tanking, went to see them in Dallas. Pominville scores the opening goal and it erupts. I was shocked how much louder Sabres fans, especially since we were very bad, got in an away playoff Dallas Stars
I went to Miami last year to see the Bills play the LOLphins and it was about 2 to 1 Bills fans it was insane
Bills Mafia is real. can't think of any fandom that reaches that level in all venues and climates. Go Bills!
Meh. Where were all these fans a decade ago when there was serious talk about having to move them out of Buffalo due to lack of fan support?
@@DolFan316 The 35-3 playoff comeback vs the Oilers was blacked out in Buffalo.
@@KevinT7274 I suspect a lot of people who suddenly became Pats fans after '01 are Bills fans now. But that might just be me.
10:44 aww that poor guy with the tiny letter sized "Go Cards" sign literally dwarfed by the Packers sign. I feel for the guy. Also trust me, nobody has cared enough about the Cardinals to actively root against them.
I literally never heard of Brad Ottis until this video. I'm guessing he must've had an amazing combine to be drafted in the 2nd round out of Wayne St.
Or just be the incompetent Cardinals
12:08 Loving the late 90s song references in these videos lately, didn't think you'd make one so quickly after your Lenny Kravitz one the Kearse vid lol
I'm a Steelers fan but I don't live in Pittsburgh. I go to at least one home game and one away game every year. My goal is to eventually watch a Steelers game in every city. I'm currently at 18 cities. Fans do travel out of town to watch their team.
If the Steelers suck as a franchise most of you out of state f non Pittsburgh area fans wouldn’t exist.
Not to mention that the Cardinals aren’t selling nor holding opposing team apparel in their own stadium plus, they’d be giving the team they allegedly hate money out of their own pocket just to boo them so they end up supporting the Cardinals as well.
As a Jets fan, I am so much more miserable than any Cardinals fan out there.
Ironic that two ex-St. Louis Rams would be the ones to spout off about bad fans. I'll bet neither of them had any problem with the Cards moving out of St. Louis.
St Louis is more baseball town than football town. The baseball cardinals have one of the most loyal fan bases
People don't realize Packers fans are EVERYWHERE. Doesnt matter what market or city
You do have those types of "fans" it takes all kinds to make the world.
Back in 2000 people in general would not have been spiteful enough to go to games as "anti-fans" in the opponents uniform. In the 2020s however, most people would be that spiteful.
Then there's the case of a Packers fan in Chicago who has season tickets to the Bears.
I'm sure that happens, since the last time I heard, the waiting list for Packers season tickets was backed up for years. If they could get Bears season tickets, at least they get to watch NFL games and see the Packers once a year when they come to Soldier Field. And maybe even sell the other tickets to actual Bears fans if they didn't want to go.
Never heard of Brad Ottis
Sad thing is a lot of Giant fans, up until recently, have said that.
Numerous times as a matter of fact.
As someone who is heading down to Arizona in October to watch Washington play ASU, I sincerely hope that the Pac 12 doesn't schedule the game for a 1:00 kickoff for the reasons you mentioned. This is one of the few times where #Pac12AfterDark actually makes sense.
Ahh man I’m going through this now as a Washington fan 🤷🏾♂️ Been getting out numbered quite a bit lately. And an owner in Dan Snyder that could give you material for a new video at any moment.
Which is sad because Washington was a once proud franchise. Rfk Stadium was nuts!!!
@@davidtaylor1164 and @Mark Phelt(open): That guy from your 106 FM station had a classic rant the morning after the Eagles wiped the floor with the Redskins on MNF in 2010; IINM, it's still in TH-cam.
It may have been better if he said "some of those were actually anti-fans" or something like that, not ALL of them EVERY week
sometimes you've got to buy a ticket to hate and boo something. that's sports, would they prefer an empty seat? Cards are in for a hard year, that overpaid QB seems like a fraud.
It use to happen a lot when they'd play the Cowboys on a yearly basis at Sun Devil Stadium.
I think his comment wasn't trying to say that the fans that show up each home game are just showing up to root against the Cardinals... but that he was more trying to say that because Arizona is a vacation/"go south for the winter" destination that they do get a lot of people coming to their games that are fans of the visiting team.
I expect Las Vegas will be like that: fans will see their home team is in Vegas next month and they end up booking a guys trip where they get in on Friday, have some fun for a couple of days in the casino, then go to the game Sunday afternoon and fly home Sunday night.
I remember in 97 when the Packers came to Indianapolis. The Colts were 0-10, Packers were 9-1 and won the SB the year before. Close to 60,000 fans, and probably 45,000 were cheeseheads. It happens!!
There's a channel that runs espn recaps from around this era and at a game in 2001 it looked like the cardinals had enacted covid protocols 20 years in advance.
This is almost like the chargers playing at stubhub stadium when mostly fans of the visiting team had dominated attendance
Yep, Cheeseheads travel well
I do remember one year when the New Jersey Nets were terrible and they were promoting "NBA Matchups" as their main way to get people into the arena... this was like 2008 or so... they had these reversible uniforms that they were giving away... one side had the Nets team and a selected "star" and the other side had a star of their opposition... I wonder how many of those were turned to the road team... (I haven't watched NBA basketball seriously since the mid 90's)
Even the Broncos fans dominate the stands when they play at Arizona.
JG 9 is a heart attack just waiting to happen. 😂
You know, be that as it may. Miami Marlins fans have to deal with those times when they host the NY Mets. For the Marlins, any home game feels like a road game. Sad for a Marlins and Red Sox fan, like me. Personally, I find it frustrating to hear the Mets getting the loudest cheers at Marlins Park, but then again it’s not like I didn’t see That coming.
I was an anti-fan of the Cowboys before I started liking the Jets in 2009 and then the Raiders in 2012
Sad to say but “people like this” DO actually exist. I once went to see George Carlin (a few years before he died). My seat was near the front row. As the show started and Carlin walked out on stage, the woman sitting right next to me abruptly stood up from her seat, gave him the middle finger, and I think she may have even shouted something at him. She then walked out of the theater.
She had paid her way in, and hadn’t stayed for more than a minute of the show, just long enough to express her displeasure (the reason for which she never made clear).
Last Cardinals game I went to with my dad, so 2010ish 49ers fans took over U of P Stadium. probably a 60/40 mix Niners fans to Cardinals. My Dad said at least all the red jerseys will look good on tv, yea better than green (Or worse star studded blue & silver), but still felt like an away game at home
I actually tried this when I was first getting into soccer. I rooted against Manchester United every game, simply because I thought it would be fun to try. I live halfway around the world so I didn't go to any games and this anti-fandom lasted about a week and it was a miserable experience, I do not recommend it.
The eagles played the cardinals this year in Arizona and the stadium was filled with mostly eagles fans. So it was a similar situation like in this video
Ottis must hate K-pop.
I don't get it.
@@DolFan316 There's a significant community in K-pop called anti-fans, where people will devote a lot of time and money to troll people they don't like. There are videos about this culture and how prevalent it is in K-pop.
@@sirstewartwallace3917 So it's South Korea's version of the far left, then? Got it.
@@DolFan316 you are better not knowing this
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As stupid as Ottis's comments may be, he's right, except this mostly happens in the NBA because whenever the Lakers or Celtics are at a small market team like the Hawks, for example, some fans wear their jerseys.
In the 2020s people really are that spiteful and really do throw their money away on far worse things.
This is when Gbo was in ECHL
Ha ha ha 50 cent did that to Ja Rule. But didn’t show up and let the seat covers show him how much he’s loved.
It probably doesnt happen in the NFL much, if at all, but in the days of getting $5 cheap seat NBA tickets in some cities (San Antonio, for this example), it wasnt uncommon to see people show up regularly and root against the home team. I may have been a fan of a number of teams not named the Spurs for a few years in there.
Isn't Ottis pronounced "Ohdis" and not "Ahdis"?
The cardinals have a odd history
Sure, Ottis made a stupid comment, but you made a 16 minute video overanalyzing that statement. A 16 minute video where you feigned outrage at a comment that literally nobody remembers.
What does that say about you?
If I lived in Boston, I would do it with the Sox... I'm a Yankee fan... my 2 favorite teams... 1. Yankees, 2, Rockies.. 3. Whoever is playing the Red Sox tonight.
Well at ome point lions fans did dress up
As bengals fans as a protest lol
Yea, but that is just the futility of the Lions. Look at Matt Stafford. All those years playing his heart out at Ford Field. ANd as soon as he leaves for LA and the Rams he got fit for a Super Bowl ring! That us how pittiful the Lions are!
Speaking as a lifelong Cardinals fan I can attest that this is all the fault of Bill Bidwill. He never put together a competitive team in Arizona from the start especially after Lomax was forced into retirement. And when we finally did have a competitive team(1998), he broke it up. And he never tried to endear the team to the state. I was living in Tucson at the time(games were blacked there too even though Tucson was outside the 75 mile radius blackout area) and the Tucson Citizen newspaper held a poll and the Cowboys were chosen as Tucson's team. Also, this practice of road teams taking over the stadium goes on even today. Even during the Super Bowl year of 2008 in a game against the Vikings the crowd was about 35-40% Vikings fans. When they were contemplating leaving St. Louis I was really hoping they went to Baltimore where I guarantee that they would have had a better fanbase of jaded Colts fans. Pay attention this season. They have the Chiefs, Eagles, Patriots, all coming in and I guarantee you that their fans will overpower our fans. As for Otto, I think he was talking about you have fans who were season ticket holders from areas that had a team they followed and when that team comes in they root for that team and not the Cardinals. Oh, incidentally, Sun Devil Stadium was a terrible stadium. The field area was fine but the rest, oy. Nothing like peeing in a horse trough.
Still that way. The Bruce Arians Era did bring some fans in but they seemed to have left once he left.
@@davidtaylor1164 not really. Arians brought in the fair weather fans but when it came to games against GB, Seattle, Minnesota, New England, & Dallas the stadium was still filled with their fans. Even in the playoff game against the Packers. As for fans leaving, going 3-13 and looking bad doing it might have been a bigger factor.
@@Rockhound6165 That's true. Those fans bolted once they went 3-13 and have never come back. What are the chances of them ever moving back to Saint Louis?
@@davidtaylor1164 ever toss a snowball into a fire pit?
@@Rockhound6165 😂
6:30 STOP! THAT'S FAKE NEWS
Jag: "packer fans are the best in sports"
Steelers:"am I a joke to you?"
Let's be real here. The reason Bills, Packers, Steelers fans, etc. flock to other team's stadiums is that they just want to get out of the cold, miserable places they call home.
Or that they have fans living in those cities who are originally from the places those teams call home. At the same time, it’s nice to get away and see other stadiums especially if it’s unique like SoFi Stadium.
They’re just popular that’s all
The cardinals are a transplanted team. They shouldn’t have left St Louis. AZ is a vagabond NFL area. You’d find stinkin Lions fans and any other Bum teams fans there. Even when there was success it wasn’t sustainable. The Cardinals hope is Kyler. If he can keep the Cardinals relevant and win a Super bowl the next generation of NFL watchers will follow and show loyalty.
Can't say I've ever heard of this incident cuz I'm not a cardinal or packer fan and I'm not from either of those areas. But I can kind of understand his frustration it must have been kind of like how the chargers felt for that time when they were in Carson California where the stadium was basically just filled up with fans of the road team. Like the crowd would get loud on defense and offense for those guys. I guess that's when you don't want the 12th man. But it sure has helped us up in Seattle though I think we still have the record for false starts caused by crowd noise since qwest Field was built. I certainly don't envy the fans man that must have just been bad when it got hot metal bleachers damn but then again iTs a college stadium
He is wrong I have but I am a hockey fan
I thought about doing that 🤔
Hot cold no matter the wheather I always hated bleacher seats they hurt the hell out of your beehind.
I swear he has to be trolling …
One more time...
*GRUTTADAURIA!!!*
i was young in 2000 but old enough to remember a good bit of it. Im honestly not shocked it was the Packers/Favre that managed this. if it was like.... the Giants/Kerry Collins (same timeframe) [only using them cus despite being a Bills fan i live in Long Island] that'd make more sense... cus who tf stans Kerry Collins? Giants fan sure, but wouldnt see Kerry Collins signs like you see Favre ones in this video/that game.
Basically what I'm getting at is there was A LOT OF FAVRE FANS back in the 90s/00s that didn't even so much ride for the Packers but loved Favre - or rode with the Packers long as Favre was there (cus again being from Long Island i seen the Favre bandwagon come for that 1 year he was with the Jets too), that's probably what this is.
(Not to mention with Respects to the Pack, they are one of the best traveling/widespread fanbases in football)
Greenboro last year 1995
Blah blah blah, get to the point man.
That's because they sucked so bad
This honor actually belongs to the Baltimore Ravens who traveled to London to play the Jaguars. They stood for England's national anthem and knelt for ours. Then when they came back home they were met with a mostly empty stadium and a chorus of boos for every home game. They got angry at us. It got so bad that they took out ads in the Baltimore Sun and had their beat writers writing full page articles asking why the fans weren't coming out to the stadium. They begged us to come back. We didn't.
Nor should you have. Yet another case of "rules for thee but not for me". Expressing your opinion has severe consequences, but we should be allowed to express our opinion without any sort of pushback at all, no matter how absurd or hateful it is. These are the same people who now support pedophilia while insisting that no new babies should be born. But if you even so much as express a hint of disagreement with any of this, then YOU'RE the evil one who's "oppressing" THEM.
They don't miss you, others are now enjoying your seat
that's because anything with the name bidwell on it SUCKS. and he was trying to endear himself to a fairweather fan base where most fans come to support out of town teams. same thing with that #kn joke nhl team the yotes. 8,000 fans there rooting for their favourite out of town teams. 200 rooting for yotes. joke market in az. and jerrah has always proclaimed az. boys country.
I go to greenboro NC cheer for other team
Ugh that voice. I count finish the video
Thanks for interacting with our comments though, he may not be Morgan Freeman but he ain't Gilbert Gottfried either