He didn't need to...his passer rating was always above 80. i should know. My passer rating in high school was 65...I was always concentrating on the cheerleaders.
Starr was hurt on the first play from scrimmage. He suffered bruised ribs trying to tackle Steve Stone breaker who was returning Bill Anderson's fumble for a touchdown.
@@farmasystlol my passer rating in high school was around 60 I would try to impress the cheerleaders I could scramble I was fast in high school an I knew the QBs job is but I couldnt throw a spiral actually I still can't throw a spiral I threw a lot of bad passes
"He didnt have him throw a pass...." Bart Starr called his own plays. Perhaps not throwing a pass on the first series was the reason behind his being pulled. The coach could have sensed that Starr was not physically able to play or that Starr was imposing restrictions on the plays he called due to physical limitations.
1969 was not good to Baltimore either. Both teams that played in Memorial Stadium lost their championships during that calendar year (yes, the Super Bowl was from the '68 season but was played on 1/12/69)...and to the teams that also called the same stadium home (Shea Stadium in Queens, NY).
The '69 Colts were a dead team walking after Super Bowl III. Carroll Rosenbloom seriously thought about firing Shula and only hung on to him out of sheer spite because he wanted Shula to suffer as much as he was. Even Shula wanted out badly enough to willingly participate in tampering by the Dolphins.
i can't think of colts and packers of the 1960's without thinking of a game from the 1965 season in which unitas isn't playing due to injury and on the packers' first series starr leaves the game due to an injury
7:18 Dick, that is cheap! Starr was indeed the best QB of the 60s. Not Unitas. Keith Dunnavant, backed up with stats from Kerry Byrne, makes a great case for Starr being the GOAT of the NFL.
Except that he wasn’t the idiot coach…he was the inexperienced coach. Near the end of his coaching tenure, he was definitely starting to figure it out and if they’d kept him on I believe he would’ve at bare minimum gotten them into a regular playoff contender
@jonathonhass4178 you ever heard the phrase "too little, too late" that was bart starr's coaching tenure. He should've been fired after 1980 but somehow kept his job. If he had a defense in 1983, maybe he wouldn't be speared for his teammate, forest gregg
1. That shot at 7:19 .... even by 1969 standards, that would be an obvious Unnecessary Roughness penalty. 2. Ah, the post Lombardi/Pre Favre era; when the Packers were (to borrow a Urinating Tree expression) a Lolcow franchise: 2a. Going through five head coaches with diminishing winning % each time (listed below with their regular season records): Phil Bengtson (1968-1970) [20-21-1] Dan Devine (1971-1974) [25-27-4] Bart Starr (1975-1983) [53-76-3] Forrest Gregg (1984-1987) [25-37-1] Lindy Infante (1988-1991) [24-40] 2b. Only one division title (1972); one other playoff appearance (1982; but had division standings been counted, the Packers would have won the NFC Central with a 5-3-1 record) and only three other seasons with winning records (1969, 1978 and 1989) 2c. Bad personnel decisions like trading five draft picks to the LA Rams in 1974 for an over the hill John Hadl (one of the Rams draft picks ended up being Hall of Fame offensive tackle Jackie Slater). And of course, taking Tony Mandarich in 1989 over future Hall of Famers Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas, Deion Sanders and Steve Atwater. 2d. In 1983, the Packers set an NFL record that still stands by playing five overtime games that year 3. But some bright spots were in said Lolcow era: 3a. The 1972 NFC Central Champs had the dual running attack of John Brockington & MacArthur Lane; and rookie kicker Chester Marcol lead the NFL in scoring. 3b. In 1983, they won a shootout on Monday Night Football against the Redskins 48-47. 3c. The 1989 "Cardiac Pack" won four games by one point.
I am and forever will be convinced (yes, even in future lifetimes) that Lombardi "retired" because he knew the Packers' core had become so old a collapse after the '67 season was inevitable and would ruin his legacy. Sure is strange how he suddenly wanted to coach again just 2 years later.
@@user-hs7qf5vv2n Facing a George Allen-coached team in the playoffs didn't hurt either. Aside from the one Super Bowl Allen went one and done in his other six playoff appearances.
The Rams defeated the Packers in 1967 and they were winning the playoff game too before the roof fell in mostly because of the Packers experience and the Rams being a young team
@@barbaracaroll The Rams were younger but not necessarily a young team . Remember that George Allen had no use for rookies and younger players . In 1972 he was caught trading away draft choices he no longer had.
Context… literally 10 seconds before that point. In the context of that era, he was *way* above the average passer’s QBR. But it’s not surprising it falls short compared to now where almost if not every offense is mainly reliant on passing instead of running.
@@praetorian9823Exactly. Defenses today are not allowed to do anywhere near as much to disrupt or demolish the receivers as they did in Starr’s era. It’s a VERY different game now.
It's just richie Pettibone replacing joe gibbs in 1993. From 1969-1992, the skins had only 3 lossing seasons, and 3 super bowl wins. Pettibone went 4-12, Washington's worst season since 1963
The name was Bengtson, not Bengston. Lombardi didn't retire from the game after the second Super Bowl win; he continued for another year as the Packers' general manager, and named Bengtson as his coaching successor. There's no such word as "reaggravate."
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made the following videos about Phil Bengtson: 1. How he alienated Herb Adderley so badly Adderley threatened to retire than play for the Packers again. 2. Two videos about his bizarre stint as interim coach of the Patriots, and how he suspended Carl Garrett. You also made a video about Don Horn and his disastrous game against the Packers after they traded him to the Broncos. And since I see someone mentioned Frank Gansz, you made a video about why he continued to play an injured Bill Kenney at quarterback instead of Frank Seurer when the Chiefs hosted the Steelers in 1987. Gansz’s logic in that video resembled that of Bengtson in this video.
7:18 A cheap shot even by '60s standards, which is REALLY saying something 😳
Knee caps were part of the ball lol
Dick Butkus playing that hardnosed physical football....lol
Ha and did the referee whip someone with his penalty flag? Lol
Bart Starr didn't even get the chance to spike the ball into the ground on ANY single play.
He didn't need to...his passer rating was always above 80. i should know. My passer rating in high school was 65...I was always concentrating on the cheerleaders.
Starr was hurt on the first play from scrimmage. He suffered bruised ribs trying to tackle Steve Stone breaker who was returning Bill Anderson's fumble for a touchdown.
@@farmasystlol my passer rating in high school was around 60 I would try to impress the cheerleaders I could scramble I was fast in high school an I knew the QBs job is but I couldnt throw a spiral actually I still can't throw a spiral I threw a lot of bad passes
@@farmasystfake and gay
@@jefferyreed4073 also fake and gay
"He didnt have him throw a pass...."
Bart Starr called his own plays. Perhaps not throwing a pass on the first series was the reason behind his being pulled. The coach could have sensed that Starr was not physically able to play or that Starr was imposing restrictions on the plays he called due to physical limitations.
1969 was not good to Baltimore either. Both teams that played in Memorial Stadium lost their championships during that calendar year (yes, the Super Bowl was from the '68 season but was played on 1/12/69)...and to the teams that also called the same stadium home (Shea Stadium in Queens, NY).
The '69 Colts were a dead team walking after Super Bowl III. Carroll Rosenbloom seriously thought about firing Shula and only hung on to him out of sheer spite because he wanted Shula to suffer as much as he was. Even Shula wanted out badly enough to willingly participate in tampering by the Dolphins.
Your phrase at 5:06 ranks up there with Cris Collinsworth’s “Now here’s a guy,” and should be added to your merch line.
Bart Starr was the ultimate gentleman
i can't think of colts and packers of the 1960's without thinking of a game from the 1965 season in which unitas isn't playing due to injury and on the packers' first series starr leaves the game due to an injury
This was the overtime playoff game(12-26-65) won by the Packers 13-10. Tom Matte played quarterback for Baltimore with the plays taped to his wrist.
7:18 Dick, that is cheap!
Starr was indeed the best QB of the 60s. Not Unitas.
Keith Dunnavant, backed up with stats from Kerry Byrne, makes a great case for Starr being the GOAT of the NFL.
Thoroughly surprised that they threw flags at that 7:17 mark. That was a real deal forearm to the chops, and the refs called it even in '69. Wow.
The irony: less than 10 years later, starr would be the idiot coach
Except that he wasn’t the idiot coach…he was the inexperienced coach. Near the end of his coaching tenure, he was definitely starting to figure it out and if they’d kept him on I believe he would’ve at bare minimum gotten them into a regular playoff contender
@jonathonhass4178 you ever heard the phrase "too little, too late" that was bart starr's coaching tenure. He should've been fired after 1980 but somehow kept his job. If he had a defense in 1983, maybe he wouldn't be speared for his teammate, forest gregg
1. That shot at 7:19 .... even by 1969 standards, that would be an obvious Unnecessary Roughness penalty.
2. Ah, the post Lombardi/Pre Favre era; when the Packers were (to borrow a Urinating Tree expression) a Lolcow franchise:
2a. Going through five head coaches with diminishing winning % each time (listed below with their regular season records):
Phil Bengtson (1968-1970) [20-21-1]
Dan Devine (1971-1974) [25-27-4]
Bart Starr (1975-1983) [53-76-3]
Forrest Gregg (1984-1987) [25-37-1]
Lindy Infante (1988-1991) [24-40]
2b. Only one division title (1972); one other playoff appearance (1982; but had division standings been counted, the Packers would have won the NFC Central with a 5-3-1 record) and only three other seasons with winning records (1969, 1978 and 1989)
2c. Bad personnel decisions like trading five draft picks to the LA Rams in 1974 for an over the hill John Hadl (one of the Rams draft picks ended up being Hall of Fame offensive tackle Jackie Slater). And of course, taking Tony Mandarich in 1989 over future Hall of Famers Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas, Deion Sanders and Steve Atwater.
2d. In 1983, the Packers set an NFL record that still stands by playing five overtime games that year
3. But some bright spots were in said Lolcow era:
3a. The 1972 NFC Central Champs had the dual running attack of John Brockington & MacArthur Lane; and rookie kicker Chester Marcol lead the NFL in scoring.
3b. In 1983, they won a shootout on Monday Night Football against the Redskins 48-47.
3c. The 1989 "Cardiac Pack" won four games by one point.
I am and forever will be convinced (yes, even in future lifetimes) that Lombardi "retired" because he knew the Packers' core had become so old a collapse after the '67 season was inevitable and would ruin his legacy. Sure is strange how he suddenly wanted to coach again just 2 years later.
@@user-hs7qf5vv2n Facing a George Allen-coached team in the playoffs didn't hurt either. Aside from the one Super Bowl Allen went one and done in his other six playoff appearances.
The Rams defeated the Packers in 1967 and they were winning the playoff game too before the roof fell in mostly because of the Packers experience and the Rams being a young team
Fortunately they started to determine playoff sites based on won-lost records and head-ro-head competition in 1975.
Coach Lombardi was always having to work miracles to overcome the mediocrity of general manager Lombardi.
@@barbaracaroll The Rams were younger but not necessarily a young team . Remember that George Allen had no use for rookies and younger players . In 1972 he was caught trading away draft choices he no longer had.
Today the cool kids would describe that exact same situation as, "Tell me I'm not starting without telling me I'm not starting."
You thought his passer rating at 7:55 was well above average, but it seems normal to me.
Context… literally 10 seconds before that point.
In the context of that era, he was *way* above the average passer’s QBR. But it’s not surprising it falls short compared to now where almost if not every offense is mainly reliant on passing instead of running.
@@praetorian9823Exactly. Defenses today are not allowed to do anywhere near as much to disrupt or demolish the receivers as they did in Starr’s era. It’s a VERY different game now.
@@praetorian9823Watch that portion again and you’ll see why I said his rating was “normal”.
It's just richie Pettibone replacing joe gibbs in 1993. From 1969-1992, the skins had only 3 lossing seasons, and 3 super bowl wins. Pettibone went 4-12, Washington's worst season since 1963
That 105 rating would have been just 0.5 off leading the league in 2022
I feel honoured to be the 229th oerson to watch this video.
It's better than spiking the ball on every single play
Paul Brown Is the greatest Coach in NFL History.
And Bengston briefly was the coach of the patriots in the 1970s
So Starr never actually said "My coach is an idiot"? If true putting words into someone's mouth is not good journalism.
Someone is still angry the Packers won the first two Super Bowls (OP)
Roscoe really blew it with the Starr clips.
I'm now wondering what the point of having Starr dress out in Baltimore was. Bengston really botched this.
I think that the greatest coach ever is Frank Ganz 😂 or maybe the ghost 👻 of Joe Walton!
The name was Bengtson, not Bengston. Lombardi didn't retire from the game after the second Super Bowl win; he continued for another year as the Packers' general manager, and named Bengtson as his coaching successor.
There's no such word as "reaggravate."
Who was Vince P.O.'d at in the beginning? Doesnt look like a player, as they can be seen walking off in the BG.
Do we know who the 396th person was to watch this video?
Congratulations on winning the jersey! #GrossiPosse
I feel honored to be the first one to view this video!
Damn I wish that was me
@@adambonesaw3689 😅
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made the following videos about Phil Bengtson:
1. How he alienated Herb Adderley so badly Adderley threatened to retire than play for the Packers again.
2. Two videos about his bizarre stint as interim coach of the Patriots, and how he suspended Carl Garrett.
You also made a video about Don Horn and his disastrous game against the Packers after they traded him to the Broncos.
And since I see someone mentioned Frank Gansz, you made a video about why he continued to play an injured Bill Kenney at quarterback instead of Frank Seurer when the Chiefs hosted the Steelers in 1987. Gansz’s logic in that video resembled that of Bengtson in this video.