Why Palpatine DENIED Thrawn's Plan to Destroy the Rebellion - Star Wars Explained
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I have to admit that Thrawn has taken the mantel of one of my favorite Imperials. His cool head, tactical prowess and drive to understand his enemy seems incredible. I am in the middle of listening to a audiobook about Thrawn.
I can imagine if Thrawn attempted a coup against Darth Sidious. He would've orchestrated an assassination on Darth Vader as well, before finding out that Luke Skywalker is Vader's son.
This just shows how nerfed Discanon is by comparison. If a weaker Thrawn had to be taken out by space whales in order for the Rebels to win. Then again even in Legends only the author could hope to best him.
WOW! I never thought of an alliance between vader and thrawn would have been a great story line!!!! That's amazing!!!! Nice job!
Yes, in one of the books , he said he had a contingency plan already in place to eliminate vader. ( he told vader as much ) if it ever became necessary.
Total agreement. He had the loyalty of some serious individuals.
Thrawn is loyal to the Empire because he wants the galaxy to be United under one voice
He didn’t join the Republic or CIS because of how corrupt they were , and how many different voices divide the galaxy to get things done
He saw the Empire as the best vision to Unite the Galaxy
He admires Palpatine’s charisma and vision to bring the galaxy Under one voice, but saw his flawed his government and military was
Thrawn even if he wanted to knew, he can’t rebel against Palpatine, he’ll only cause more chaos as the Empire is too well build around Palpatine’s existence
If anything he had to wait under either he gradually changed the Empire from within or waited until Palpatine died to make his vision an efficient Empire a reality
As for Vader, they admire eachother, they were in same mind of many things, including not agreeing to rely on Superweapons and invest on better quality ships and solders
Thrawn tried to make his vision a reality at Rebels, having Palpatine’s and Tarkin’s permission to invest the excess resources on Lothal to create his TIE Defenders
Had he won, he would have proven his point how preserving pilots in elite craft can be better for the Empire
But the Rebels thwarted him and made him disappear, leaving Tarkin to fully invest in his Tarkin Doctrine idea to rely on Superweapons which was the Empire’s undoing
Because Palpatine is too obsessed with playing with his balls.
Nice
I really can't believe that Sidous had thrown out the plans he planned for the rebellion
Palpatine never intended for the Empire to last. It was just a hold over until his Dark Empire on Byss was established.
I’ve always wondered how Thrawn would have reacted to the Clone Emperor if he had survived Bilbringii. Would he have followed or would he have suspected the Emperor’s deteriorating mind and faked his own death to run away and lead the Empire of the Hand?
The Emperor’s mind was always fine. His clone bodies were deteriorating under the might of his own power, but his mind always remained as sharp and precise as ever. If Thrawn is truly loyal to Palpatine and his vision for the galaxy, he would remain Sidious’s humble servant even after learning of his resurrection, just as Allegiant General Enric Pryde did.
I find it hard to believe that Sidious was concerned about how much a TIE Defender would cost considering that he could make them like how he was making Star Destroyers from Raxus Prime. (Don't mind me. I just like that stage in The Force Unleashed.)
Another possible use of the TIE defender comes from the fact that they can follow a capital ship through hyperspace rather than be deployed in orbit.
Imagine Star Destroyers show up first and take all of the attention. Then the Defenders show up and start dispersing in every possible direction. The result would be chaos as the defending party would have to shift their focus from a few large targets to multiple small targets.
Thrawn had enough sense to realize that going on a path of destruction, such as destroying planet Alderaan, only increase the support of the rebels.
If he did not this sense, his pragmatism would have been similar to the idiocy of the Operative in Firefly/Serenity, in ordering the destruction of every location in the galaxy that has suspected to have had a rebel presence, suspected to have rebels on it, or suspect to expect rebels to arrive their.
Fortunately, Thrawn preferred a less costly plan of hunter-killer squads chasing down the fleeing rebels.
The space battle over Hoth, in Empire Strikes Back, shows that while the Imperial Fleet was so disorganized that Han was able to trick a Star Destroyer into almost colliding with two other Star Destroyers.
One would expect that over the Imperial ships over Hoth, some captain would order to attempt to follow the rebel ships. It is likely Vader order the Imperial Fleet to state over Hoth, given he only going after the rebels as an excuse to find Luke and Luke's friends.
1. Palpatine was all about generating mass fear, rather than order, so brutality and power suited him better than sleek efficiency in all things.
2. Thrawn tended to stumble against Force users. As people, he usually had them pegged, but time and again in both canons, he failed to account for the more ridiculous things the Force was capable of - probably because it simply could not be analysed in such terms as art was.
Anti-alien beliefs in the Empire high command and the emperor himself who have made it likely that most of the empire’s officer corp would attempted to thwart any of Thrawn’s plans.
Something I always wondered. Why does the Rebellion use the phrase "May the Force be With you?", when there were almost no jedi or force sensitives in their ranks? Do you think you could make a video about that?
i am only guessing, but maybe they said it because the force helps all people even if they are not force sensitive? Thus by saying, "may the force be with you" you are wishing them the best?
Well most of the high rebel officials were friends with the jedi and knew they were good people. The rebellion supported the jedi. That's probably why. Of course, you also have people like Ezra, Kanan, and Luke who were jedi as well.
It was to troll Vader and Palps.
It's like saying "God bless you." The Force is basically God in Star Wars. There are many people who worship God who don't have mystical powers in our world.
@@LeondriusI like how you imply some people do have mystical powers
I remember reading the books when they first came out.
When it ended, even back then, I thought that he was only defeated because the good guys had to win, and his loss was not in battle, but from a traitor assassinating him.
Therefore, I agree. If the rebels did not have plot armor, Thrawn would have eliminated them.
Palpatine allowed the rebellion to survive for as long as it did in order to give the galaxy a small spark of hope so that he could snuff if out and feed upon the despair.
Thrawn's very own tactical mind can be used against him effectively. No one is invincible. Plenty have thought that and were proven to be dead wrong see Siddious, Thrawn ended up dead in the end as well.
Always disliked how he died, seemed very anticlimactic.
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Thrawn literally needed a ton of force wielding Cthulhu kawaii monsters to take him out of the story. No one could have planned for that bullshit.
@@DropTheForkNow Yeah, and even then he survived. In Legends the only reason Thrawn lost was because his right hand man pulled a Vader on him at the literal last moment.
@@DropTheForkNow Um no…it was one little piggy bodyguard throwing a knife at his heart.
“But it was so artistically done.”
I believe all that would've been true if Grand Admiral Thrawn was still in the galaxy. But I do believe Darth Sidious still would've been killed by Anakin Skywalker because he wanted Luke Skywalker to become his new apprentice. That confrontation still would've happened, the end result would still be the same. Now the question would be if The Empire still follow Thrawn as their leader, New Emperor? What does everybody think about that theory?
he would have never won because the rebels have an unending supply of Plot Armor that no Imperial firepower could match.....
I've read the old and new Thrawn material. I just hope the wider audience gets some insight into why he's doing all this. I wanna see Ar'alani.
YES!!!
As someone who's probably a great deal older than yourself, I must confess that I'm "mad keen" (as we say sometimes down here in Australia) to see this "Admiral Thrawn" character, and how it is that a tactician with the refinement and skills such as his, could be out of hand, wasted by the Empire!!
Unless the Emperor himself, seeing him for the brilliant tactician that he was, also discerned a very, very dangerous future adversary, and made the decision that it was " either him, or ME", and chose a side!!
@@frenzalrhomb6919 But also, if you've read the books, I'm interested to see if his motivations change as the Empire changes, because if the Empire isn't powerful, his mission does not have the same importance.
To be the far the force used the simple trick against Trawn of "You can't know what you don't know."
I keep having to remind people that the TIE fighter was a budget vessel. It wasn't the fighter of the Empire because it was the best, it was designed to be more or less functional as a fighter and more importantly to be cheaply mass-produced. The venn diagram is time, cost, or quality, you can choose two. Well the Empire chose cheap and fast, so they sacrificed on quality.
Thrawn is often held in high regard. Acceptable. But what people often ignore is Rebels often doesn't show his flaws. If rebels without much structure could give him that much commited, how would he fare against The Alliance? Plus, we can't really rely on him studying the culture of a people to inform his strategy because it only works once. Plus, art can tell you about a people, but not necessarily their strategy. Thrawn's entire war strategy relies on the plot armor that he has to face generals/admirals who think in a stereotypical way that manifests in their cultural art pieces. What if he faces an adversary that acts totally against their cultural expectations (Thrawn is considered the same among his people)?
So Why Palpatine DENIED Thrawn's Plan to Destroy the Rebellion?
So Thrawn believed in the Rumsfeld Doctrine. Good for winning wars, bad for maintaining order afterwards. I wonder if the latter even entered any Imperials' thought process....
The grand Admiral's strategy is flawless as usual
Ok, but you titled the video "why Palpatine DENIED Thrawn's plan to destroy the Rebellion", implying that you would pose and answer that question
Thrawn would've definitely won The Clone Wars if he joined the Republic
His analytical skills didn't help him in trying to understand the Kaleesh so he ended up just glazing their planet, lol.
More “what if” videos! And make your videos longer we need more and/or all information. Big fan listen everytime you upload
Except couldn't track ships through hyperspace too much later
Great job I think you are spot on with your assessment of Thrawn!
Excellent video my good sir!
Thrawn runs the risk of making the rebels into martyrs, but if he was to deny them access to strategic territory and force them into a humiliating surrender, then the rebels would be seen as cowards.
Not just all this but thrawn had like 65% (this is questionable because there’s some ships that he had like three of that like 8 were ever built and so on) of the imperial navies best ships out in the outer rim ready for war with the yuzhaan vong, his 7th fleet was the most well equipped and he had his tie defenders for his fleet. The only fleet better than his was Vaders and the time of Endor and yavin, Vader fleet wasn’t involved neither times which I feel is just a plot armor thing because vaders personal fleet “death squadron” had the executor, 6 ISD 1 star destroyers, 4 interdictors which thrawn had three which left only 8 were ever built, Vader also had some tie defenders va use he acknowledged thrawns ideas were the best for the imperial navy, he had some other Class two star destroyers and so on but I feel that these two fleets actually played a part in anything then the rebels would never win, especially thrawn, just like Vader analyzed their enemies and adjust their strategy for battles, thrawn was a genius of defense and offense, he knew what it would take to defeat his enemies. The thing that’s different about thrawn is that he doesn’t do something to please tarkin or sidious because they don’t truly wish to see the end of the rebels, they want the rebels to submit, whereas Vader just wants to end them and get it over with at any cost and that’s why thrawn likes Vader and wanted to please him at one time because one they have same war like minds and wants to win and see them ended, and also because thrawn knew who Vader truly is and he got along with Anakin so well too. Thrawn will no doubt have ended the rebels quick with his great tactics and with his superior 7th fleet
Vader's fleet, Death Squadron, was the spearhead of the trap for the Rebels at the Battle of Endor. Vader didn't get the fleet until after the Battle of Yavin.
Only one problem. When c wings go to hyperspace there is no way to track a ship through hyperspace without an interdictor or if u plot calculations for it.
Amazing video
The fact that Thrawn might have been able to defeat the Rebel Alliance is countered by the fact that he'd have never been given enough say in Imperial matters to do so... Palpatine would never have allowed it. The most likely outcome, had Thrawn stayed longer, is that the Emperor would have had him eliminated as being a potential threat to his own power. It wouldn't matter whether or not the Grand Admiral genuinely harbored such ambitions, only that Palpatine would if he were in his place.
Can you do a Video about Palpatine's Grand Admirals please?
During rebels he really pushed for funding for the tie defender that even the prototype completely dominatedamy rebels alone but he was denied bc death star needed more funding and material
As a master strategist, I’d think Thrawn would have analyzed the Empire the same as he did for other cultures and species - the Mon Calamari, for instance. I wonder what strengths and shortcomings he’d have uncovered with a deep study and analysis of the artwork of the Empire.
Now…..Thrawns brilliance and the alchemy to his mind is only limited to the gifts of the writers puppeting him. I’m not pessimistic or optimistic, but fascinated indeed.
do one on if thrawn had the force
Palpatine didn't want an end to the fighting, just like in the Clone Wars. Fear, death, and destruction feed the Dark Side, so I suspect he wanted to keep the galaxy on the knife's edge for maximum power gain.
You’re forgetting that palpatine actually wanted to rule over an empire, not a galaxy of the dead
@@jakealter5504 any empire has to continue to justify its existence; it needs threats and enemies to fight. Sure, Palps didn't want a galaxy-wide exterminatus, but at day's end he needed the aforementioned elements to benefit himself and the Dark Side.
@@brother_bear_one7340 true
@@jakealter5504 but you were right about his not wanting to rule a galaxy of the dead. I'm reminded of the comic series.
I hope Thrawn is well-portrayed in the upcoming Ashoka series.
I believe han solo would have had to step up his planing strategy. Also i believe darth vader would not allow harm to come to his children other than from himself.
The Mon Calamari crusers are transport6 liners as I recall.
Very good research, and great points throughout the video however, I think the assumption made in this video is that Thrawn would have been green lit on everything he wanted. We already see that despite Thrawns capabilities and influence he still had to fight for the TIE Defender. Both the Emperor and Tarkin favored the Death Star over every other project, other Imperials also had a great distrust in Thrawn due to his alien heritage. It just seems unlikely that he would have command over the Imperial structure in such a way have as much impact as he would like too. Especially since for all his gifts he sucked at dealing with Jedi nonsense.
Dude, what if the Noghri are reintroduced in the Ashoka series?
Star wars rebels showed what would have happened if thrawn had free reign to put the whole thing down
Wow, Thrawn was really that guy!!
He was a brilliant man fighting for the wrong side.
You didn't touch on the why Palpatine didn't allow him to stop the rebels. Which to me is simple he needed a boogeyman to inspire fear he wiped out the jedi and that stopped being an effective tool so instead it's terrorists and false flag terrorist attacks mixed with real ones. The threat of the revels allowed Palpatine the emergency powers to hold onto power.
Thrown was so OP the force had to use time travel, space whales, and sacrifice Ezra to take him out
I haven't read the thrawn books. But after watching Rebels for the first time, I said to myself: "wow, finally, a villain so much better than darth vader and a jedi master more worthy than anakin skywalker" ~ although I enjoy watching those characters, I really like thrawn & kanan jarrus so much more. I heard rumors about live action ezra bridger & if they're true, I can't wait to see him in the ahsoka series & the wild skills he learned fighting without his lightsaber🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
honestly if the empire was smart they would have a small squad of the defender on each ship, and in the long run with ships lasting longer, more pilot surviving and not needing to be replaced the costs woud have potentialy maade it cheaper to use the defender then the fighterer even if on a full scale. what costs more? needing to replace 100 fighters + pilot afther a fight or 10-20 defenders + pilots afther a fight? even if 10x the price on the defender when looking at the costs over time the defender would probably be worth it in the end. afther all the more experienced a pilot got the smalle chance for them to die.
Thrawn would've been the empires ace in the hole against the rebel alliance
What would be Thrawn's solution to prevent TIE Defender pilots from defecting to the Rebellion with their hyper drives?
So I agree Thrawn would have changed the outcome of the war, I do have one issue with the tie defender idea, i maybe wrong so please let me know, but how could the tie defenders track the rebels through hyperspace without knowing the coordinates they are jumping to?
Hux refined hyperspace tracking and the one used in the last Jedi was a prototype, so there should be no way they can be tracked through hyperspace if the rebels deploy hit and run tactics right?
Don’t get me wrong I think Thrawn and the tie defenders change the outcome of the war, but like a nerd I’m nitpicking and I just don’t think the defenders could track the rebels.
Fauit in your plan is the lack of hyperspace tracking
Nice Video I agree wit the assumption
Have a nice day
I wonder how even more effective Thrawn could be if he had Trench on his side.
i think its quite intereesting that Thrawn knew that Darth Vader was Anakin
Ýour assestments are very much on point, i do have to say that it would not had been an effortless victory. As the force was still with them.
i agree
Also don’t dismiss me boy!
Well well it was really nice to see for on a pier in the rebels animated show he wasn't nearly the thrawn from heir to the Empire he was kind of bumbling comparative Lee as the rebels got over on him several times
Yeah I think that the empire just picked stupid people to be Ty fighter cause they couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat I don't think they even knew how to aim lol that and storm troopers couldn't hit the side of a barn when they shoot either
Pretty sure you didn’t answer the WHY in the header at all smh…
Thrawn Thrawn he’s our man if he can’t do it Darth Vader can!! Go empire!!! Yaaay!
The thing is that the solution to the Rebellion was never going to come down to tactics and battles. You can't control a million systems no matter the size of your military. So long as you're ana uthoritarian regime, the more repressive you are, the more resistance there will be.
The Empire nationalized and institutionalized slavery, inflicted multiple acts of genocide, and undertook military actions that involved the slaughter of billions of sapient non-combatants.
Peace would always involve a level of compromise, political institutions willing to engage in reform and negotiation, and accomodation. Which is the complete opposite of what Palpatine wanted.
Thrawn may win tactical battles, but he will not win the war. Resistance would continue and spread. Things like superweapons and the Death Star were supported by the instituion of the Empire itself. The Emperor and Tarkin would push for them no matter what.
Thrawn had his blind spots - politics was it. At least once in the Chiss Ascendancy he was manipulated by one group of aliens he was dealing with to exterminating their rivals. The power games and politics of the Empire would always limit his reach. He would be an elite squadron commandr - but if he ever aspired to be higher he would be brought down by those with more political support - an alien can only go so far in the xenophobic Empire.
Thrawn would never have full control of anything beyond his personal squadron - we see in the side games he plays with Tarkin and Krennic that he can never get support for full blown manufacturing of the TIE Defender - the improved model only has the prototype made and was never readied for full scale production or the kinks worked out. He's not going to get to design the pilot training program - the Imperial military was institutionalized by Palpatine to foster undermining and backstabbing in the ways of the Sith and to ensure that no one ever got a large personal power base.
All the advantages here require Thrawn to have unfettered control and access to large swathes of the Empire - training, R&D, deployment.. Which he'll never have due to the nature of Imperial politics - and Palaptine not wanting to set someone up as a possible threat to himself, knowing Thrawn is ultimately loyal to the Chiss Ascendancy, not himself.
And.. On a tactical level, don't sell Ackbar short. Ackbar is the man (or fish) that brought up the Alliance from beyond small starfighter and raider groups to an organized navy with a heavy capital ship doctrine. Thrawn inherited the military stylings and tactics of the Chiss and the Empire. Ackbar came up with an entirely new doctrine and method of fighting and building up a naval force from the ground up. Ackbar's forces within a year or so of the Battle of Endor completely defeated the Empire and brought it to a negotiated peace.
Thrawn was a tactical genius - Ackbar was both a tactical genius and a strategic one. Thrawn may be able to ambush Ackbar, but Ackbar is far from helpless. Many of Thrawn's plans are extremely complicated and require everything to go off perfectly well - it's often his subordinates that mess them up when they don't operate exactly as commanded - Governor Pryce, Konstantin..
In large scale engagements iwth more than a few ships Thrawn often faced issues where his subordinates would not follow his orders exactly and would let things like glory or presonal objectives take priority. The defeat of the Rebel strike at the Battle of Lothal is a tactical victory but a strategic disaster with the destruction of the TIE Defender program and much of Lothal's infrastructure. Even with no space whales and a total defeat of the Rebel raiders, it's still a huge net loss for the Empire - several star destroyers, a large industrial and mining planet..
True
And remember the TIE Defender was horrifically expensive to produce/develop. It took significant enough resources that redirecting some of the resources being used to produce it to the Death Star was considered substantial enough to make the DS be finished faster.
The destruction of planetary infrastructure (in this case virtually all of Lothal's spaceport/fuel dumps/etc) was considered sufficient damage to derail the project. It's not just something that the Imperial Navy is going to mass produce and make mainstream.
The cost for development and production of a single fighter in limited numbers for the Defender project was obscene. For something that likely only had a few hundred production models made by the Battle of Yavin (that we know of) it was uneconomic for even the Empire to develop. That's not even going into the issues that it went completely against all Imperial starfighter doctrine, the Tarkin doctrine (rule by fear), the Imperial Navy's admiralty/doctrine (big capital ships).
Separately even if Thrawn doesn't end up MIA at Lothal/Lothal is a victory, it still has negligible effects on the Rebellion (short term). Thrawn will not be put in charge of pursuit of the Death Star plans when they go missing (that's Krennic's pet project and we've seen that Krennic loathes Thrawn). Thrawn prefers a tactically oriented Navy, which is completely contrary to Tarkin's preferences - Thrawn will go nowhere near the Death Star or Yavin.
So the DS is still blown up, the Rebellion explodes in size/scale. Thrawn will not be a part of Death Squadron (that's Vader's personal command to chase Skywalker, Thrawn is too independent for Vader/Palpatine to tolerate). The Mon Cala cruisers (very likely) sitll happen and they escape/get refitted. Thrawn may wing single, and significant engagements, but he won't be winning huge campaigns against the Rebellion - he has a single squadron/task force, huge galactic level eevnts will only be run by Vader - even if Thrawn makes a discovery, Vader is the one who pursues it. If Thrawn finds something, pursues it on his own and reports it 'late' then Vader or Palaptine will kill Thrawn for taking too much initiative.
Thrawn at Endor will not happen due to it being purely an event for the Sith. Even if he is there remember that it's Palpatine directing the battle. Point blank we see Piett saying they can't advance due to the Emperor's personal directives. Once the DS II blows up and Palpatine/Vader are dead Thrawn will go on a fighting retreat just as he's not the type to stay in a battle no matter the circumstances. Imperial morale will be breaking so he -will- act to preserve the lives of the men udner his command, which means keeping the task force intact enough to withdraw. Vader/Palpatine/Luke is very much separate from the space battle so will happen no matter what.
Post Endor? Thrawn's loyalty is to the Chiss Ascendancy, he knows what Operation Cinder is - Palpatine's pettiness if he fell to take the rest of the galaxy with him. The Empire is disintegrating - Thrawn will take what assets he can and withdraw into Chiss space even if he's still around. He'll see Palpatine openly sabotaging what's left of the Empire (randomly withdrawing huge numbers of craft to the Deep Core) and know there's no chance for survival.
Because the movies would be over finally and no one could keep milking it till nobody wants to see it ever again
I have no doubt thrawn would have destroyed the rebellion with this plan it's so good that I would root for it. Thrawn is the only imperial Officer I am willing to respect
I wonder what Thrawn would glean about our militaries from pouring over our shitposts (assuming the act doesn’t drive him mad first)
A tie defender could not follow an Xwing into hyperspace- its a plot point in the last Jedi - cursed as that movie might be - that tracking through hyperspace was new.
While chasing the Falcon in Empire Strikes Back, and thinking the ship escaped into hyperspace, Vader tells his men to "Calculate every possible destination along their last known trajectory" . Before Disney, it was always possible to do hyperdrive tracking, but you had to be close to the target to accurately get their jump angle, and have access to enough computing power to figure out the probable destination. Following someone into hyperspace is a lot easier than computing where they're going to drop back into realspace so you don't overshoot. The Rebels came up with ways to exploit this, such as doing a hyperjump on a random course before dropping out of hyperspace after a minute or less and then jumping to their real destination.
@@ZoeMalDoran Yes - but that's different. That's calculating the possible destinations of a freighter with Star Destroyer's computer and help of a space wizard after a jump has occurred... Not the same as following a fighter following into hyperspace with another fighter without having any idea where the first fighter is going on a moments notice.
@@PariahRonin yes, but as I said, you could still do it. You could still jump right on someone's tail and be going in the same direction as them. It happened a bunch of times pre-Disney. The thing is that without the Force, or special equipment like in Episode 8 and 9, once you're following them in hyperspace the hard part is knowing where to stop in order to stay on their tail when they revert to realspace. Calculating direction is a lot easier than calculating how far the other person intends to go in that direction... it's not impossible, but it is improbable :)
Would Thrawn bake pies and give lemonade?
Day 184 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
Palpatine didn't care much about his empire. He just wanted to have all the resources possible to pursue his only goal: immortability. He's always been Darth Sidious, emperor Palpatine was just an alias. That's how i explain the stupid, strategy sloppy empire policies. With Trawn as emperor, the rebellion would have lost.
Did I miss the part where he talked about Why Palpatine DENIED Thrawn's Plan to Destroy the Rebellion?? Ya know, the video's TITLE??
We all missed it, it never came up
I will pass on watching this one. I remember reading the books back when they came out and I remember thinking "why is this guy too prefect" his "abilities" make no sense. The whole "art thing" went well beyond suspension of belief. The lizards were a bit of a strange thing as well, lizards that block the power of the force?
The writing also seemed very middle of the road, I have not read a zahn book since as he did not impress me as an author. Though I will say his work is still far superior to anything disney has shat out.
To me this character just comes across as a Gary Stu just like Rey and her Mary Sue powers.
I'm curious on more of your insight about other videos you haven't seen.
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In a galaxy with quintillions of beings there is more than likely to be such a being.
He was no match for plot armour
Good video on Thrawn, but did it ever tell us why Palpatine DENIED Thrawn's plans?
He did not!
If thrawn was there running the show, the rebels wouldn't even made it to destroy the first death star
...NNNNNNOOOOOOO
there is only one single reason why thrawn dident win in legends. the nogrie bodyguard he had on his ship. if the assasination had fallen for some reason or the information never reached the bodyguard about the empires betrail thrawn would have beaten the new republic. he was wining the fight and the republic was basicly using all they had avilable there but once he was killed admirlal pelion and the others wasent able to keep the forces together and dident manage to get the victory that thrawn was getting out of the situation. would he have done a palpatine? probably not. some would probably killd but thrawn is not a complete monster like palpatine. thrawns goal was to prepear for the vong that he knew was out there. and he was aigenst the idea of a super weapon like the death star from the beginning.
the way he pronounces ensigns.....
Why Palpatine DENIED Thrawn's Plan? Obviously it was _treason_ then.
I think Rebellion would have been defeated. Complete victory for Empire. It's good Force intervened and removed him from the galaxy. It brought peace,justice and security)real),to the people's of the galaxy. And nations. Freedom. He was amazing commander and officer. Like Revan. But better in small way. Which says a lot. May the Force be with you too
1st.
Also, all hail Thrawn.
This is why the say he's autistic
I still say they could have done better casting the live action "thrawn"....in my opinion karl urban would be great in the role! Or even the guy who played "negan" in the walking dead. (His name escapes me now, forgive me.
His name is Jeffrey Dean morrgan and I am not trying to be mean I just thought to let you know
@@osrishunter thank you sir! I take no offense at all. I was hoping someone would know. I appreciate it!
So basically the Empire lost because they were cheapskates. 🤷🏿😂
No, what you had with Thrawn was not infallibility or invulnerability. What you has was bad writing by Timothy Zahn. “The enemy is in the triangular formation and favored clay pottery of the genetic style in the ninth century, and I therefore predicted the rebel fleet will attack here“. What?? Thrawn’s powers bordered on the supernatural and it was obvious he (Zahn) had been tasked with replacing Sidious with villains equal to him, that is over powered. The same thing can be seen in his dark Jedi master, who manages to completely dominate Luke Skywalker for the early part of the series. Despite Luke, having taken down his father, at least the second most powerful Jedi to have ever lived. Those books were not particularly good, and they were not an auspicious beginning to the extended universe of Star Wars, I wish people would stop idolizing Thrawn and come up with something a little bit more believable. And get better books.
Whoever came up with that bullshit notion that you can discern tactical and strategic intent by looking at art is on something lol. Fictional or real, translating a painting or sculpture won't tell you a squirrel fart about the military plans of anyone hahaha. Good ol' plot armor. Well I guess since space whales didn't have art, Thrawn was completely bamboozled by their actions.
No his arrogance would have gotten the better of him!!
Didn't thrown get taken out by space whales and a beginner jedi?
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