In today's video I respond to a recent episode of the BBC's Countryfile where presenter Matt Baker visits a dairy farm and hears justifications from the farmer for why they separate the newborn calves from their mothers. But does this justification actually hold up under scrutiny and why won't the BBC use Countryfile to tell the truth about animal farming? If you find my work valuable, you can become a regular supporter or make a one-off contribution through the following links (thank you so much): earthlinged.org/support & patreon.com/earthlinged Jumper from my ethical clothing brand I.D.E.A. Studios: weareideastudios.com/
Many beef farmers get colostrum from dairy farmers. Can ed explain. Can ed explain why Susan Marie Levin died you know the lady on the ADA panel she was 51
Mr. Winters, you are urged to become VEGAN, since carnism (the destructive ideology which supports the use and consumption of animal products, especially for “food”) is arguably the foremost existential crisis.🌱
Vegan cheese is better anyways! Maybe not at first, but once you've gotten used to it.... And it's far less disgusting when you imagine the bacteria and things growing in animal products.... Looks like we've both been vegan about the same amount of time.... best decision ever! 👏
If, by any chance a dairy cow acted badly, it might be because she has been treated so badly all of her life and is losing her mind. If she seems not concerned about her calf being taken, maybe its because she's had so many taken that she is numb in her insanity.
Yes, that came to my mind too. The ones that don't cry for their babies have probably had it done to them so many times that they know there is no use in making a fuss. 😥
Absolutely agree - the dairy cow that's been subjected to one abusive cycle after the next surely has the intelligence to learn that being a so called 'good mother' is futile and surely must create hostility? Yet the dairy industry try to use this justified animal behaviour as a marketing justification. It's damn right despicable!
It's weird how the detachment of cognitive dissonance works. About 15 years ago I accompanied my daughters on a school trip to a "pumpkin patch " farm to pick pumpkins for Halloween. There was also a petting barn with rabbits and guinea pigs. They also brought out a sow and her piglets onto freezing urine soaked concrete floor of an adjacent barn in their farrowing crate. I was vegetarian then and my kids had been brought up vegetarian. My daughter used to tell people she didn't eat anything with a face. I objected strongly to the farrowing crate and was told by the farm hand they were necessary to stop the sow crushing her piglets because she was too stupid to care for them properly. The petting barn was an unsupervised nightmare. The animals were terrified from the noise and chaos and screaming children fighting with each other over the animals. I was deeply and vocally upset. But everyone just thought I was an extreme nutty vegetarian. My children took it on, but already felt different and had grown up with a lot of attitude to people challenging their vegetarianism and didn't want to be singled out further for being different. However they later instigated the move for our family to move to becoming vegan. My Mum was right when she said they would rebel against vegetarianism. Not what she expected though.
Thats the best kind of rebellion against vegetarianism, made my day 👍🏽😂 Also, sorry to hear about your experience at the petting barn, your emotions were more in tune with the poor animals than those around you. To have empathy and recognise suffering, but then also be singled out as 'the one making a big thing out of nothing' is a very relatable experience. Your kids may not have understood it at the time, or even been embarrassed, but to see a parent stand up for what is right can have a profound effect in your formative childhood years. I remember finding an injured bumblebee in the school playground when I was little. I picked it up and gently placed it on an empty crisp packet to transport to the nearest shrubs when a boy who had been watching snatched the bag out of my hand, scrunched it up and he just laughed. I was so upset. It was my parents, dad especially, who taught me to be kind to living beings, big and small. Thats always stayed with me. Having been raised vegetarian, I'm vegan now, and like your children, showing my loved ones the way. Funny, because it was my parents and siblings who instilled this kindness in me, I'm just reminding them of their own compassion by trying to hold a mirror up to the cognitive dissonance in their behaviours and reasoning.
I tell everyone that vegetarianism is for mugs and carnism is for monsters. Then they ask me what carnism is! Petting farms are ghastly. There was a horrible, scruffy, dirty mobile one at a town centre Christmas market near here for the last few years - along with frightened live reindeer on display. A friend and I went along last year with a big camera and acted up as stereotypical masked animal rights activists. The organisers became very angry at our presence, shouted that we had to leave and were paedophiles, and called the police on us - who took no action at all because we were doing nothing wrong. During planning for this year's event, the organisers decided to drop inclusion of any animals because they didn't want the animal rights nutters back again. Result! We will return to congratulate and sincerely thank the organisers in person. Oh, and props for bringing up your children with due consideration, which is sadly very rare.
Great story. Btw, pigs are not too stupid not to crush their piglets, it only happens in barns. In an experiment in Sweden they let pigs roam free and found out the sow and piglets perform a greeting ritual before the sow lies down so no piglets get crushed. Indoors they don't get the opportunity.
As she is describing the process of taking the baby calf away, she is constantly smiling. She hopes her smiles hide the fact that what she is doing is insanely cruel and unnecessary.
Another point of contradiction is that she said that "they let the mother lick the baby before they take her baby from her..." That shows that she is nurturing and loving towards her baby. NOT violent like they are trying to say as an excuse...
@Mario Hashiba I was just thinking that when that part came up. It's almost hilarious how they're trying to improve animal welfare, but the slaughterhouse experience is still hell, AND now they also want the mother to lick their calf for bonding right before taking them away xD These people clearly do not know compassion. jfc.
Its really a mixed. It's not black and white. I've known cows trample their new born. I know cows that lick there calf and lick me too. I've had cows charge me down too. When I carry the calves away some mothers follow me and other mothers don't care. We take calves away because its the easiest and most profitable thing to do. Nearly every farm is setup this way. If this practice needs to be stopped the whole dairy infrastructure has to be change. Housing and all. It would cost millions for each farmer.
It's appalling how much the bbc program tries to elicit a cozy feel on the viewer when describing a fundamentally immoral act. Especially when this prograganda is funded via license fees.
As someone that worked in the industry, what I was told was that the longer you leave the baby with their mom's, the harder it is for humans to separate them as they form a strong bond. I think this is the true reason that they don't tell you. OC, they make money, it's a business and they're maximizing efficiency and many calves die in the process but they don't care. This is a very cruel industry, I know a lot about it. I'm now vegan and feel a lot of shame and remorse. Vegan for life.
I doubt that “many calves” do die, as this would mean it wasn’t a profitable business & they would change this practice if that were so. It’s illogical to accuse the industry of being entirely profit driven & simultaneously say that they are following an unprofitable practice.
@@jonathanhicks140 right OK, ,,, the perso tells you what they know and you micro aggressively tell them they are potentially delusional with their own personal witness report of what they "experienced ". When they say "many" it could still be far too many but not enough in the grand scheme of things. It's all context. Righto!
They don't "die" from being taken away from their mothers they die due to alot of other reasons such as pneumonia which is a big one and TB and foot rot and thousands and upon thousands of different diseases caused by thing that have no link to separation
This clips always gets to me, I’ve seen this happen myself when many years ago I worked on a dairy farm. It is truly heartbreaking to witness. To my shame it took me another 30 years to become vegan.
Yes, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶 The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩 Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT to ban animal agriculture! “I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”. Mr. Ed Gaunt, So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐 th-cam.com/video/Sl5GpxLXnuI/w-d-xo.html Go to the 8:15 mark.
@@mindrecharged7658 why did humans hunt mammoths and all other mega fauna then ? Chimps are omnivores btw. Our bodies are omnivores not obligate but omnivores either way.
@@OM617a Yes indeed, due to Taoist and Shinto beliefs combined with the rather disoriented economy of Japan, meat was banned for commoners. Only nobles close to the emperor and the royal family was allowed to consume meat. But you're forgetting these communities continued to eat fish and seafood all along these centuries. In fact most of them were fishermen or farmers . As for China, it depends on which Dynasty you speak of. Cause going as far back as Shang Dynasty and the record of grand historian, non veg dishes have been documented and celebrated and once the yang Dynasty controlled China meat became all the more popular. In India different castes ate differently. Brahmins or clergymen were veg, Kshtriya or warrior clans were non veg, baniya or traders were veg and shudras were non veg. Ethiopian also depends on which civilisation and era you speak of. And Roman legionnaires with their average frame of 5.4-5.6 aren't the best example. See today's Elite combat troops who are as good if not better than those gladiators. They are meat based.
I can't believe people can complain about seeing the reality of the food on their plate, then still eat said food. The cognitive dissonance is terrifying
@@rondarkman. are the cows, chickens, sheep, and pigs that are killed in farms pests that ruin your land? Do the kangaroos and pigs ruining your land justify animal agriculture?
@@bigbangzebraman351 they're commodities and income sources then. The meat and milk gonna feed dozens and the money gonna keep dozens more afloat per farm. Multiply this to the number of farms and you'll get millions of employed people
I've been aware of what happens to the calfs for a long time and it's one of the reasons why I went vegan 5 years ago. But having it described in such detail still brings tears to my eyes. It breaks my heart to think about how confused and scared both the babies and the mothers must feel when they're separated...
We live near a dairy farm, we always know when a calf has been taken from their mothers as the mothers bellow for days for them. So sad and unnecessary 😢
Yeah,all the micros,worms,bugs,small mammals,large mammals,small birds,large birds,yeah all of the animals deserve a chance. Including yourself. With whatever it is they should have. What about the plants? Do they not think? Do they not breed? Do they not defend themselves from all the animals that would eat them. Who's talking for them? Eh? Anyone there??👀 🏴🤔🕊😃🏴
“We put it somewhere nice and clean and cosy”. Do you mean next to their mother feeding from her? No, I thought not. I listened to the Farming Today programme a few weeks ago and there was a piece about how children were visiting farms because “they needed to understand where their food comes from”. Strangely enough there was no mention of how calves were immediately taken away from their mothers, and then dairy cows are killed within only a few years because they’re bodies were shot.
Agree. There is a wildlife nature reserve close to me. They allow a farmer to graze his ewes on wildflower meadows through the autumn and winter. They advertise 'Lambing Weekends' in the spring and charge families to attend. So families go and the children stroke and bottle feed the lambs. Then those same families will have roast lamb or lamb chops for dinner!!!🙄 Cognitive dissonance passed on to their kids.
@@rondarkman. We're vegan. But, I'm glad to see that there is a shortage of eggs, milk and pig meat. Some egg/chicken farmers have left the industry - good for them. The cost of living crisis will put more pressure on this uneccessary industry. 😀👌
I've been vegan for just over a week now. I thought it would be so hard to separate myself from dairy. Now I'm surprised at how easy it is. So many healthy alternatives fill the place of where dairy used to be. I can't believe how attached I thought I was to cheese. I was wrong. An adult male drinking the milk of another animal is so absurd when you stop to think about it. We are the ONLY species that drinks the milk of another animal in adulthood.
That farmer who started crying...he mentioned that sometimes the cow goes right over to the feed after giving birth. It makes me wonder, how old are those particular cows? Maybe they've been through this process many times and now already know what will happen to their baby so they try not to form an attachment to it.
They go for feed as they essentially starve themselves before birth to induce a state that pulls calcium from the bones to produce milk for the calf. We have heifers that haven't even had a calf do this. So its not about being 'apathetic'. Atleast that's what all my years of stockmanship tell me. Distressed is a more common emotion that you can see in a cow that's formed a bond with its calf then had it removed.
@@DominionMovementDotOrg Well my whole family is vegetarian and I was born vegetarian so I was raised and taught to respect animals growing up which made it easy to go all the way when I saw Earthlings, cried my self to sleep and couldn't look at dairy the same then I started watching vegan TH-cam's and found out about Cowspiracy. However only my little brother went vegan with me, I was really surprised that the rest of my family didn't. They all thought it was fine that I was vegan but got super defensive and mad if I told them about the dairy industry and would say "you don't know what your talking about" or "you watch to much nonsense". They also can't understand why wool and honey isn't vegan. Anyways that is how I became a "soy boy". 💚🐷❤
@@DominionMovementDotOrg Also there was something else that made me click and that was some my teacher said well my class was making apple pie from scratch the doe was going to be made out of lard so I asked if I could make one at home with butter instead and my teacher said "but butter comes from an animal to." and for some reason that really clicked with me. obviously I knew butter came from a cow but I never knew how awful the dairy industry was. And yet that clicked with me.
This reminded me of two things quite simultanuously. I once stumbled upon an article whose author was clearly against veganism and his acceptance of violence and submission was really scary. He rejoiced at the end that farmers were "developping" a breed of cows who would be dead inside enough not to care about this separation. So yeah, some lost souls in there would be ok with turning living sentient beings into zombie milk machines... That just stunned me this kind of person would call himself human... On the other hand, I saw on a sanctuary video a group of rescued dairy cows, including some who had arrived pregnant and had calves, where sometimes, some calf-less cows would baby-sit the calves for the others so they can have some rest after having taken great care of their little ones. Surprising, for heartless beings and terrible mothers, I would say...
Yes, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶 The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩 Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT to ban animal agriculture! “I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”. Mr. Ed Gaunt, So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐 th-cam.com/video/Sl5GpxLXnuI/w-d-xo.html Go to the 8:15 mark.
Money is always involved. Farming is a business. Minimum welfare standards are set by legislation rather than the farmer's consideration. Farmers never lobby government for higher welfare standards!
@@chrissiehorsley304 Genesis 1:28 "...and have dominion over the fish in the sea, and over the foul in the air, and every living thing that moveth upon the earth." Unfortunately our society is still based upon such warped thinking. And so the expectancy and full acceptance of exploitation, cruelty and violent death for gain is "baked in" to our culture. Unsurprisingly, as our society becomes more secular and open minded we become kinder and more rational. There is hope, but there's also a very long way still to go. As an early retiree my life is now dedicated to addressing the blatant hypocrisy.
I know a woman who grew up on a DAIRY farm in Wisconsin, and told me very seriously and without doubt that dairy cows just naturally produce milk, without having a baby. 😳🤯
I used to love watching Countryfile when I was younger because of the lovely scenery over the uk and seeing all the cute animals, now that my eyes have been opened I’m like how can you treat animals like this. Now I don’t watch it.😢💔
@New Angel Tarot It took ages to get people to wear seatbelts, drive sober… put the loo seat back down (am I right ladies?). Everyone wants change, no one wants to change. 🙁
@@PercivalBlakeney Many people are concerned about the climate crisis, but do not change their eating habits etc. Including many activists. In 2018, Oxford University stated that if we were all plant based or vegan, we could feed everyone worldwide and have land left over to rewild and reforest. 🤷♀️
@@chrissiehorsley304 It's taken me ages to learn to remember. If there's even the slimmest chance of a woman using the lavatory… the seat goes back down… end of story. 😌
Really what it should say is. Dairy cows are more likely to be worse mothers than beef cows. Some are good and some are bad. It's not black and white at all.
@@v.a.n.e. Humans aren't the only species to breastfeed from a completely different species all the way through adulthood? Which animals besides humans drink the breast milk of another species throughout their lifetime?
They get to experience the comfort of a mother for only minutes before being put in solitary confinement. For animals that evolved to be part of a herd, that torture is probably worse than the physical torture they will later be subjected to
I frequent a group called Cow Lovers which has a lot of dairy farmers in it. They almost always claim calf kidnapping is for the best interests of the calf, totally bonkers!!!!!!!!!!!!
Has anyone seen the 2nd episode of “Down to Earth with Zac Efron” on Netflix? They went to a small-scale farm and the farmer looked so happy to have a dairy cow to milk and make cheese but I didn’t see a calf there at all… Made me think how could she be happy to separate a mother from their child 😢
Perpetuating the image of a happy cow just GIVING milk. I, for one, spent my entire childhood not realising and not being informed by anyone that cow milk is intended for cow babies and they only produce it after giving birth...
Yes, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶 The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩 Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT to ban animal agriculture! “I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”. Mr. Ed Gaunt, So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐 th-cam.com/video/Sl5GpxLXnuI/w-d-xo.html Go to the 8:15 mark.
Thank you for shining a light on this. I really struggle in the moment to articulate these things when put on the spot by people but your talent for conveying heartbreaking messages in an articulate, constructive yet passionate manner is so inspiring. Every time I watch one of your videos I feel that sense of support and community. Thank you 💜
@@rondarkman. yes. Call me crazy, but I feel like I like cow milk and cheese tastes better if the cow was tortured. And for me, the more blood, feces and urine makes it even more delicious.
@@rondarkman. yes torture. The dairy cow is forcibly impregnated and then after she gives birth, her baby is stolen from her. That is torture. Then, after 2 or 3 years, she is loaded on to a truck and that scares the crap out of them (literally, they crap themselves). Then they arrive to the slaughter house. This is when the cow is tortured the most. The time it takes from when they are unloaded from the truck to the time they are slaughterer. If you like seeing torture, that is where it's at. Those cows are frozen with fear. ❤️
Notice how she starts smiling & gets fidgety when she talks about the babies being "cozy" & when she talks about how long they are kept in the barn? That implies that she doesn't agree with what she's saying, or that she's lying.
Times are changing watching this every normal human hearing what she said immediately feels how wrong this is. There is no valid justification to take a new born calf from their mothers!
My wife and I went whole food, plant based about 7 years ago. We keep our caravan in a compound at the back of a dairy farm, and every time we collect the caravan it is truly heartbreaking to see how these animals are kept. It is horrifying, and we are so grateful we no longer support this barbaric industry.
Matt Baker looked genuinely upset during that segment. I think the viewers picked up on that. I've never seen him look ashamed of animal farming before.
Yes, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶 The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩 Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT to ban animal agriculture! “I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”. Mr. Ed Gaunt, So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐 th-cam.com/video/Sl5GpxLXnuI/w-d-xo.html Go to the 8:15 mark.
Yes, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶 The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩 Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT to ban animal agriculture! “I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”. Mr. Ed Gaunt, So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐 th-cam.com/video/Sl5GpxLXnuI/w-d-xo.html Go to the 8:15 mark.
A coworker was lamenting to me that her friends owned a dairy farm, and their business was going downhill, making less and less money. I said GOOD. She was pissed! Said that it was a BUSINESS!! And their family had been in it for years, now it’s failing. I told her…the slave trade was a BUSINESS…doesn’t mean that it was a good one to be in. And maybe it’s time they think about doing something different. You can’t blame the public for becoming more educated and making better choices about how they spend their money. And frankly they should be ashamed of enslaving and exploiting animals for generations! Grow oats!!
That first female farm worker, wonder what else she can make sound nice by using a certain inflection, smiling and throwing in a ray of sunshine. Good grief.
@@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent Thankfully the dumpy little trolls are too dumb to realize their childish pleas for attention have only 2 effects. 1 - Helping the algorithm and getting more views for the video. 2 - Making vegans feel better about their choices because of how pathetic the opposing comments are. Honestly, they are so pathetic that I wonder if they are actually vegans just trying to bump up the interactions...but alas, I think in reality they are just too dumb to realize it.
Once you go vegan, conversations like the one they're having on Countryfile just strikes you as incredibly weird and creepy. Using animals as a means to an end; as producers of products. It blows my mind. Imagine you had no pre-conceived notions on society and culture and you were put in a room with a cow, its calf and a table of fruits and vegetables. It would be the sign of a psychopath if you went straight for the cow, took its calf away, slaughtered the calf, then sucked the milk out of the mother cow before deciding to eat anything else.
We're in rapidly changing times. As a counter, what will happen to those animals if they are not fed by farmers? Is any farming ethical? What do you think about building hutches for hens who give us eggs? We have to protect them from foxes and other hunters, as well as provide shelter, water, food, clean their hutches, check them for lice and so on. Is that reasonable? Cows and milk. On small farms of 4-5 cows the cows and calves are kept together. The cow is milked by hand, and only if the calf is grown and eating grass or hay. That's old style family farming. The milk is used for drinking, butter, cream etc. The family have to grow fields of grass, mow it, dry it, stackit, carry it back to the barn, stack it again inside the barn. Then each day when it's cold in the winter they have to go to the barn and carry it to the animals, 7 days a week. This family also know how to grow vegetables and how to dig soil pits to store the vegetables for months, and so that rats can't get to them. Is that type of farming reasonable? These farmers also used to keep their cattle in their homes in winter. I've been in these homes as a kid. I'm older now. I think there's different types of farming. Small holding, one family, they tend to really look after their animals, and do a lot of work to protect and feed them. What would happen to all those animals if they didn't house and feed them?
Good video Ed, as usual. I have never once heard the subject of separating calves from their mothers ever come up on a dairy farm or anywhere else, other than in your videos. I only saw it done once and it was much, much more brutal than anything you have ever said happens or even what the documentary Milked says happens. The baby cow was slaughtered by slamming it bodily on the concrete and just dumped and left on the barn floor for days and stank putridly. So, the dairy industry is far, far worse than ever portrayed in any documentary or video.
Pretty rare to see a farmer who doesn't block these emotions. He probably has his heart in the right place but still hasn't broken the shackles of the norms of everybody around him.
Your point about the different practices of separating mothers and babies in dairy or beef industries is terrific! As some great person said, ‘there are no coincidences’
I imagine all those who complained about this programme, did so while drinking a tea or coffee with cows milk in it, then the next day purchased more cows milk.....
Probably they think the separation of the cow and her baby is the exception to the rule and not the rule. This was likely the first time they were exposed to that and imagine it is some sort of fringe practice only a few farms practice. That's my guess
@@elpretender1357 more than likely, I know a few people who will not believe this happens, even though they have seen many videos on the subject. It's like blind faith.
@@dangerfulmind All faith is blind. Faith is belief based on conviction rather than evidence. When a majority of the population genuinely believes in spirits, miracles and an afterlife, getting them to convince themselves that there's no cruelty in animal agriculture is child's play. And, Genesis 1:28 informs them that any suffering doesn't matter anyway, as humankind has been granted devine dominion over all non-human beings. In my rather unhumble opinion, it's advantageous to approach life with no faith at all in anything. That's called scepticism, and theirin lies truth backed by evidence.
I didn't even think to compare standards between beef and dairy industries! Great informative video that shows the discrepancies between the two industries and how farmers justify 2 opposite actions when it suits them.
HUMAN MOTHERS are capable of feeling zero attachment to their baby because of postpartum depression. Mothers have let their babies die or just felt sorrow at their lack of love. Up to 1 in 7 women experience PPD, which can include this symptom, but many others as well. Gee i wonder if Dairy cows might be depressed?? I wonder if they might just have PPD to the extremes and are lacking the happy chemicals necessary to experience motivation, joy, and love?
I saw another one of Ed's videos where a Texan farmer was also justifying taking the calf away from its mother because the mother "would kick the calf". Something that occurred to me then was that this could happen by accident due to the confined space that the mother and calf are kept in.
All it took to end my "cream in my coffee" addiction was to hear about a dropper full of pus in every glass of milk ... Uggghh! Shivering right now thinking about that! Now I have oatmilk lattes and it's actually way better! 😃
@Benson Fair. I went vegan 6 years ago because I had a spiritual awakening and before I could understand what exactly I was feeling, I was becoming sensitive to what I was consuming. I had to stop eating dairy products because I could literally feel the suffering of the mother whose milk was in what I ate. I would see it like a movie in my head and would sob, no matter where I was. I stopped eating it AND THEN began my research. It all made sense after I did. I apologize for thinking your comment was rude. I was confronted by a former vegan friend of mine that I quit dairy for selfish reasons and I suppose I was triggered by your comment. I take responsibility for that.
@Benson Now I understand why so many people are angry with vegans. It was indeed a rude comment, and an assumption you jumped to with no other information as you have just pointed out. You believe yourself to be morally superior, and probably exude your moral superiority as you try to convince others. I see why I've been met with dismissive irritation when I try to do something as simple as getting a vegan meal from a typical restaurant ... even in another country the waiter yelled "no vegania! No vegania!" For your information, I'm vegan for the animals, but I try to help everyone become vegan even if their reason is self help. Any way to get people to stop is good ... your approach is counterproductive.
That heinous programme is responsible for SO much harm, by perpetrating the myth that farms are happy places and animals don't mind meeting a horrible end in slaughterhouses.
This so far has been the craziest thing I've ever heard. They must not really hear or understand what they are saying, because it makes no sense at all.....
Then there's the farmer, recently, who was trying to put an ear tag on a calf and the mother cow attacked the female farmer and killed her by stomping on her head.
I find the results of this 2022 UK poll quite interesting; 'What share of people say they are vegetarian, vegan, or flexitarian?' [ourworldindata] When considering the science of tipping points - If flexitarians, vegetarians and pescitarians were to transition to being vegan then this may well make up the 25% 'tipping point' of opinion - to potentially landslide the minority into the majority? Individual's decision - but I do wonder if the governments are too scared to interfere with the food system - yet do they not do this now anyway by the £1.5 billion subsidisation given out to such cruel business?
What do they feed the calves on during their 8 week’s confinement if not milk? What are they keeping them for? Thank you for this video Ed. So glad I became vegan after many years of vegetarianism.
I can understand where eating meat and drinking milk comes from. Historically that was a easy source of nutrients. However, in today's world, it just does not make any sense
@The Weekend Trapper The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics say that a plant based diet is proven to be healthier than that of a meat one and is kinder to our planet too. B12 deficiency can occur in non vegans and vegans alike. There are four milk alternatives that are actually healthier than cows milk: hemp, almond, oats and coconut. 😋
After I saw dominion years ago and went vegan, I posted about it on fb, I come from Victoria Australia where theres lots of Dairy Farms. One friend debated me saying that "farmers care for their cows, look after them, and only want the best for them, some even give their cows names" 🤣 oh I agree, if you had all your children stolen from you at birth, kept pregnant for 4 years straight, constantly milked, and then slaughtered at a fraction of your life span youd be absolutely fine with all that because youve apparently been given the name Big Bertha.
The weird thing to me is that as a child after we would milk the mothers I would spray down the parlor to clean all the s*** off the machines and the floor and then I would go outside to mix powdered milk with water to feed the calves of the mothers I just milked, and on this small South Dakota family-owned dairy farm no matter how cold it was these calves were living in solo plastic pens.
In the UK we have an 8 week alive standard. And no shooting calves, which still goes on in most other countries. Atleast the UKs standards are the best in the world. It could be so much worse.
@@willholliday3537 The UK's standards are supposed to be the best in the world. But it is still extremely cruel. Over 1,000 factory farms with millions of animals and birds living in hell holes and squalor.
Ed, I love you so much! Thank You for all that you do for the animals. Thank You for your informative and educational videos. Wish I had your composure, it’s so hard sometimes in getting my point across to the non vegan. 😢
I agree veg farmers blowing up rabbit Warren's while mama rabbit is suckling her young choking on dirt,birds blown to pieces with shotguns or dying for days because of poison. Dead on.
@@seanmoynihan7471 it's a shame that more of the population isn't Vegan, as Vegan farmers would be more likely to try and find alternatives than Carnists, who run most infrastructure and agriculture, would. At the end of the day, the problem is that Carnists are less than human, and also like to make excuses for not being Vegan by blaming other Carnists for killing animals, mistakenly believing it's a good argument against Vegans.
@@ARKSURVIVOR879 do some proper research. All crops are related to humans not animals. Nearly every crop grown for humans produces byproduct for animals even soya feed to animals is a byproduct even candy bars produce byproducts for animals.
The main reason dairy calves are removed from their mothers is the mothers need to be re-impregnated by the farmer as soon as possible to keep them on a yearly cycle
That's not the main reason. Nor is it factually correct. You can impregnate a cow even if it's calf drinks milk of it. So that's that quashed. And the main reason is simply efficient be it cost/welfare/labour efficiency.
@@rondarkman. Now that i think of it, you must be contributing to the algorithms favour as well. With 800+ troll comments on the channel you must surely have brought in a few new viewers. Who knows, perhaps it set one of them on the path of becoming vegan?
I've always seen Matt Baker as the smiling assassin. Appearing kind but the eyes are ice COLD behind the veneered smile. It's very sad but very true.💔🙏
Baker is a farmer. When farmers aren't inflicting cruelty for profit they're doing it for fun - which they now call "field sports". It used to, more aptly, be called blood sports - but hey, let's not frighten the children! Has Countyfile ever featured a pheasant shoot? Nearly all farms and farming folk take part in this horrific leisure activity - at least around here they do. If Countryfile hasn't covered this "sport" every season it's a glaring omission in their portrayal of normal rural life. It seems that on the rare occasions when they do cover the realities of animal agriculture, the complaints come in en-masse because consumers don't want to be faced with witnessing what they're responsible for.
@@hazelredmond104 Thanks! My veganism is is based on an acceptance and understanding of reality. I won't be taken for a fool. I find beauty in truth, and wish to avoid causing harm. I cannot stand misinformation or willful ignorance of fact. How can killing and maiming for pleasure ever be accepted as sport? How can an activity such as game shooting be so widespread yet never depicted by the TV programme supposedly covering the culture which commonly pracitces it? Countryfile is guilty of idealising rural life from an urban perspective. Reporting a balanced and realistic view of rural life would result in outrage from all sides, so the BBC sells us a sugar-coated version as family viewing that won't trouble consciences or risk commercial interests. Urban families simply couldn't be exposed to the everyday, basic realities of rural Britain, as this would be far too horrific for broadcast. Can you imagine the following?: "And on Countryfile today, Matt Baker visits the latest automated abattoir; Anita Rani tries her hand at bull-semen harvesting; and Adam Henson is in Scotland shooting grouse." No, of course not! The atrocities will never, ever be reported on - despite being imortant and absolutely normal aspects of the British rural economy.
@@davidpalk5010 Thank YOU!! They do, they SUGAR COAT it all. Making it too easy for the TV watchers to swallow. When you know what they're doing it's impossible to unsee the lies. I can't watch TV anymore...I see through all the deceit now. It's mind numbing.🥺
Some people should be kept in solitary confinement!! These poor creatures endure the life of criminals and murderers. They've done nothing wrong! Thanks Ed, keep shining the light for the voiceless animals.😞😞🙏👍♥️♥️♥️♥️
The dilution of colostrum was new to me, I've heard them say calves stay in isolation to prevent the calves being infected by one another, or squashed by mother or other adults, and lastly, that its easier to make sure theyve had their milk because in a group of marked calves, humans apparantly can still hand rear them and allow one or more to starve?
If they don't get that colostrum they are far more likely to die earlier in the herd and be unhealthy. Effectively taking the calf away from a dairy cow in its self is maybe not the best welfare. But not taking it away is also not the best welfare. Which would you rather have? A longer living calf by a significant margin. Or a calf that stayed with its mum forever. I'd also point out many calves end up being In the same herd as there mother once they start lactating.
So I googled "colostrum dilution" and found that it is actually a thing and discussed within the dairy industry. But it seems the only reason the colostrum is diluted is because the farmer starts milking the mother immediately for profit, and because the output of milk is unnaturally increased the colostrum loses its concentration and is unnaturally diluted. The farmers are advised how important it is to the calf to receive this undiluted colostrum yet, ironically, instead of just allowing the calf to stay and nurse the mother and receive this important fluid within the first few days of life they are told they must bottle feed it to the calves themselves. So wrong!
Bottle feeding is more measurable than leaving to a mother. You have an absolute guarantee that they are getting a set amount of good quality colostrum every time and in time. They need 4 litres of colostrum within 2 hours to have the optimal health in its later life. This is very measurable and reflective in later life as cows that havent had enough at birth are more likely to be culled earlier or get infections or be less efficient producers of milk. Taking the calf is the best welfare thing to do most of the time. But perhaps that's because of the way the infrastructure on farm has gone.
In today's video I respond to a recent episode of the BBC's Countryfile where presenter Matt Baker visits a dairy farm and hears justifications from the farmer for why they separate the newborn calves from their mothers. But does this justification actually hold up under scrutiny and why won't the BBC use Countryfile to tell the truth about animal farming?
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Many beef farmers get colostrum from dairy farmers. Can ed explain. Can ed explain why Susan Marie Levin died you know the lady on the ADA panel she was 51
Ask a farmer about why they use a refractormeter
Mr. Winters, you are urged to become VEGAN, since carnism (the destructive ideology which supports the use and consumption of animal products, especially for “food”) is arguably the foremost existential crisis.🌱
@@seanmoynihan7471 Susan died of complications from ovarian cancer, which is in no way linked to a vegan diet. What is your question?
I used to say I could never live without cheese. Proudly 6 years vegan now.
Well done, Celeste!
@@AwakensConduit that's really cool
Vegan cheese is better anyways!
Maybe not at first, but once you've gotten used to it....
And it's far less disgusting when you imagine the bacteria and things growing in animal products....
Looks like we've both been vegan about the same amount of time.... best decision ever! 👏
I don't even miss cheese anymore. Found so many different delicious foods, I don't even care about dairy or it's replacements. Don't need it.
I used to say there would be no sheep if I didn’t eat lamb. Vege for over 20 years, vegan for over ten
Because the truth doesn’t sell as much as the sugar coated lies this cruel industry really offers.
you just said - nothing. you're really only after likes
It's really true, we shouldn't be slaughtering animals.
@@ambers. yes. We absolutely should.
Dahmer tho
Holocaust tho
Slaves tho
Pork roast mmmmmmm
@@OM617a wanka
If, by any chance a dairy cow acted badly, it might be because she has been treated so badly all of her life and is losing her mind. If she seems not concerned about her calf being taken, maybe its because she's had so many taken that she is numb in her insanity.
yes. like learned helplessness for sure:-(
so sadly true 😭😭😭
Yes, that came to my mind too. The ones that don't cry for their babies have probably had it done to them so many times that they know there is no use in making a fuss. 😥
I believe these cows have Postpartum Depression, and are unable to form attachments to their babies.
Absolutely agree - the dairy cow that's been subjected to one abusive cycle after the next surely has the intelligence to learn that being a so called 'good mother' is futile and surely must create hostility?
Yet the dairy industry try to use this justified animal behaviour as a marketing justification.
It's damn right despicable!
It's weird how the detachment of cognitive dissonance works.
About 15 years ago I accompanied my daughters on a school trip to a "pumpkin patch " farm to pick pumpkins for Halloween. There was also a petting barn with rabbits and guinea pigs. They also brought out a sow and her piglets onto freezing urine soaked concrete floor of an adjacent barn in their farrowing crate. I was vegetarian then and my kids had been brought up vegetarian. My daughter used to tell people she didn't eat anything with a face.
I objected strongly to the farrowing crate and was told by the farm hand they were necessary to stop the sow crushing her piglets because she was too stupid to care for them properly.
The petting barn was an unsupervised nightmare. The animals were terrified from the noise and chaos and screaming children fighting with each other over the animals.
I was deeply and vocally upset. But everyone just thought I was an extreme nutty vegetarian. My children took it on, but already felt different and had grown up with a lot of attitude to people challenging their vegetarianism and didn't want to be singled out further for being different.
However they later instigated the move for our family to move to becoming vegan.
My Mum was right when she said they would rebel against vegetarianism. Not what she expected though.
Thats the best kind of rebellion against vegetarianism, made my day 👍🏽😂
Also, sorry to hear about your experience at the petting barn, your emotions were more in tune with the poor animals than those around you. To have empathy and recognise suffering, but then also be singled out as 'the one making a big thing out of nothing' is a very relatable experience. Your kids may not have understood it at the time, or even been embarrassed, but to see a parent stand up for what is right can have a profound effect in your formative childhood years.
I remember finding an injured bumblebee in the school playground when I was little. I picked it up and gently placed it on an empty crisp packet to transport to the nearest shrubs when a boy who had been watching snatched the bag out of my hand, scrunched it up and he just laughed. I was so upset. It was my parents, dad especially, who taught me to be kind to living beings, big and small. Thats always stayed with me.
Having been raised vegetarian, I'm vegan now, and like your children, showing my loved ones the way. Funny, because it was my parents and siblings who instilled this kindness in me, I'm just reminding them of their own compassion by trying to hold a mirror up to the cognitive dissonance in their behaviours and reasoning.
I tell everyone that vegetarianism is for mugs and carnism is for monsters. Then they ask me what carnism is!
Petting farms are ghastly. There was a horrible, scruffy, dirty mobile one at a town centre Christmas market near here for the last few years - along with frightened live reindeer on display. A friend and I went along last year with a big camera and acted up as stereotypical masked animal rights activists. The organisers became very angry at our presence, shouted that we had to leave and were paedophiles, and called the police on us - who took no action at all because we were doing nothing wrong. During planning for this year's event, the organisers decided to drop inclusion of any animals because they didn't want the animal rights nutters back again. Result! We will return to congratulate and sincerely thank the organisers in person.
Oh, and props for bringing up your children with due consideration, which is sadly very rare.
I don’t know your children but I am SO PROUD of yourself and them for making the decision to turn VEGAN. 🍇🫐🍒🥬🥦🌽🌶️🫑🍍🥭🧅🥒
Story with a great punchline! 👍😂 Thanks!
Great story. Btw, pigs are not too stupid not to crush their piglets, it only happens in barns. In an experiment in Sweden they let pigs roam free and found out the sow and piglets perform a greeting ritual before the sow lies down so no piglets get crushed. Indoors they don't get the opportunity.
As she is describing the process of taking the baby calf away, she is constantly smiling. She hopes her smiles hide the fact that what she is doing is insanely cruel and unnecessary.
@Benson she must know
Maybe she is sadistic
@@aaronmerkel5216 it must be insignificant to her
Actually it is necessary. It's her income source and many more
Profit doesn’t justify abuse
Another point of contradiction is that she said that "they let the mother lick the baby before they take her baby from her..." That shows that she is nurturing and loving towards her baby. NOT violent like they are trying to say as an excuse...
Yes you are right..so true. They are deceivers causing so much sadness. So cruel so wrong.💔
@Mario Hashiba I was just thinking that when that part came up.
It's almost hilarious how they're trying to improve animal welfare, but the slaughterhouse experience is still hell, AND now they also want the mother to lick their calf for bonding right before taking them away xD These people clearly do not know compassion. jfc.
Its really a mixed. It's not black and white. I've known cows trample their new born. I know cows that lick there calf and lick me too. I've had cows charge me down too. When I carry the calves away some mothers follow me and other mothers don't care.
We take calves away because its the easiest and most profitable thing to do. Nearly every farm is setup this way. If this practice needs to be stopped the whole dairy infrastructure has to be change. Housing and all. It would cost millions for each farmer.
It's appalling how much the bbc program tries to elicit a cozy feel on the viewer when describing a fundamentally immoral act. Especially when this prograganda is funded via license fees.
What are licences fees? I'm vegan for the animals, but I don't know what licence fees are.
@@Narcissism-TheDarknessintheWor In the UK we pay a tax for BBC so shows are funded with taxation rather than advertisement.
It doesn't elicit any feeling it just gives you the facts and you choose if you find them appalling or cosy or just educational!
@@thomashunt2092 That's right. It's educational to the callous and cosy to the wilfully ignorant.
@@Hilfv Don't forget the aragant self-righteous ignorant !
As someone that worked in the industry, what I was told was that the longer you leave the baby with their mom's, the harder it is for humans to separate them as they form a strong bond. I think this is the true reason that they don't tell you. OC, they make money, it's a business and they're maximizing efficiency and many calves die in the process but they don't care.
This is a very cruel industry, I know a lot about it. I'm now vegan and feel a lot of shame and remorse. Vegan for life.
I doubt that “many calves” do die, as this would mean it wasn’t a profitable business & they would change this practice if that were so. It’s illogical to accuse the industry of being entirely profit driven & simultaneously say that they are following an unprofitable practice.
@@jonathanhicks140 right OK, ,,, the perso tells you what they know and you micro aggressively tell them they are potentially delusional with their own personal witness report of what they "experienced ". When they say "many" it could still be far too many but not enough in the grand scheme of things. It's all context.
Righto!
They don't "die" from being taken away from their mothers they die due to alot of other reasons such as pneumonia which is a big one and TB and foot rot and thousands and upon thousands of different diseases caused by thing that have no link to separation
A mother cow bawling for days when her baby was taken away from her … so bad that a dairy farmers can’t hold back his tears while talking about it!
This clips always gets to me, I’ve seen this happen myself when many years ago I worked on a dairy farm. It is truly heartbreaking to witness. To my shame it took me another 30 years to become vegan.
@@philiptaylor7902 Hey we have all suffered with that shame. The main thing is we got there in the end :)
Because the truth is horrifying
Good work Ed and team
Yes, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶
The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩
Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT to ban animal agriculture! “I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”.
Mr. Ed Gaunt,
So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐
th-cam.com/video/Sl5GpxLXnuI/w-d-xo.html
Go to the 8:15 mark.
@@mindrecharged7658
And now we are ominvore
@@mindrecharged7658 why did humans hunt mammoths and all other mega fauna then ? Chimps are omnivores btw. Our bodies are omnivores not obligate but omnivores either way.
@@mindrecharged7658 also any proof of your statements
@@OM617a Yes indeed, due to Taoist and Shinto beliefs combined with the rather disoriented economy of Japan, meat was banned for commoners. Only nobles close to the emperor and the royal family was allowed to consume meat. But you're forgetting these communities continued to eat fish and seafood all along these centuries. In fact most of them were fishermen or farmers . As for China, it depends on which Dynasty you speak of. Cause going as far back as Shang Dynasty and the record of grand historian, non veg dishes have been documented and celebrated and once the yang Dynasty controlled China meat became all the more popular. In India different castes ate differently. Brahmins or clergymen were veg, Kshtriya or warrior clans were non veg, baniya or traders were veg and shudras were non veg. Ethiopian also depends on which civilisation and era you speak of. And Roman legionnaires with their average frame of 5.4-5.6 aren't the best example. See today's Elite combat troops who are as good if not better than those gladiators. They are meat based.
I can't believe people can complain about seeing the reality of the food on their plate, then still eat said food. The cognitive dissonance is terrifying
@Benson Agree. Their cognitive dissonance runs so deep.
@Benson
My dog is my companion and loyal servant, the wild pigs and kangaroos I shoot on my property that destroy my land and eat my food are a pest
@@rondarkman. are the cows, chickens, sheep, and pigs that are killed in farms pests that ruin your land? Do the kangaroos and pigs ruining your land justify animal agriculture?
@@bigbangzebraman351
Maybe , if it keeps a human employed who is paying of a mortgage and raising a family, who am I to judge.
@@bigbangzebraman351 they're commodities and income sources then. The meat and milk gonna feed dozens and the money gonna keep dozens more afloat per farm. Multiply this to the number of farms and you'll get millions of employed people
Dairy Is scary!!
What is this “EGO” of which you speak? 🤔
Dairy is delicious
And yet so tasty
I've been aware of what happens to the calfs for a long time and it's one of the reasons why I went vegan 5 years ago. But having it described in such detail still brings tears to my eyes. It breaks my heart to think about how confused and scared both the babies and the mothers must feel when they're separated...
Too few people know the details. They are either totally or partially ignorant or indifferent.
We live near a dairy farm, we always know when a calf has been taken from their mothers as the mothers bellow for days for them. So sad and unnecessary 😢
Every animal has the spark of life in their hearts & eyes to live with liberty & autonomy. Ed you're the voice of voiceless animals 💚🌱
Bless these animals and the food they provide
@@rondarkman. Over a billion people are starving whilst we feed over 70 billion animals every day.
He’s the most refined voice for sure 😂 but you and I are their voices too 🙌
Yeah,all the micros,worms,bugs,small mammals,large mammals,small birds,large birds,yeah all of the animals deserve a chance. Including yourself. With whatever it is they should have. What about the plants? Do they not think? Do they not breed? Do they not defend themselves from all the animals that would eat them. Who's talking for them?
Eh?
Anyone there??👀
🏴🤔🕊😃🏴
@@charlesstewart9246 Oh no. Not that old 'plants suffer' argument again. 🙄
Can't you think of something original for a change? Lol. 🤷♀️
“We put it somewhere nice and clean and cosy”. Do you mean next to their mother feeding from her? No, I thought not.
I listened to the Farming Today programme a few weeks ago and there was a piece about how children were visiting farms because “they needed to understand where their food comes from”. Strangely enough there was no mention of how calves were immediately taken away from their mothers, and then dairy cows are killed within only a few years because they’re bodies were shot.
Bet they never take kids to a slaughter house. That's actually where their food comes from.
Agree. There is a wildlife nature reserve close to me. They allow a farmer to graze his ewes on wildflower meadows through the autumn and winter. They advertise 'Lambing Weekends' in the spring and charge families to attend.
So families go and the children stroke and bottle feed the lambs. Then those same families will have roast lamb or lamb chops for dinner!!!🙄 Cognitive dissonance passed on to their kids.
@@davidpalk5010 indeed.
@@chrissiehorsley304
Awsome do you get wholesale for the lamb meat?
@@rondarkman. We're vegan. But, I'm glad to see that there is a shortage of eggs, milk and pig meat. Some egg/chicken farmers have left the industry - good for them.
The cost of living crisis will put more pressure on this uneccessary industry. 😀👌
I've been vegan for just over a week now. I thought it would be so hard to separate myself from dairy. Now I'm surprised at how easy it is. So many healthy alternatives fill the place of where dairy used to be. I can't believe how attached I thought I was to cheese. I was wrong.
An adult male drinking the milk of another animal is so absurd when you stop to think about it. We are the ONLY species that drinks the milk of another animal in adulthood.
That farmer who started crying...he mentioned that sometimes the cow goes right over to the feed after giving birth. It makes me wonder, how old are those particular cows? Maybe they've been through this process many times and now already know what will happen to their baby so they try not to form an attachment to it.
They're extremely hunger after birthing. Ruminants have to eat roughly half the day even with quality feed.
They go for feed as they essentially starve themselves before birth to induce a state that pulls calcium from the bones to produce milk for the calf.
We have heifers that haven't even had a calf do this. So its not about being 'apathetic'. Atleast that's what all my years of stockmanship tell me. Distressed is a more common emotion that you can see in a cow that's formed a bond with its calf then had it removed.
I used to say I could never go vegan or you couldn't pay me enough to be vegan, now I've been a proud vegan for 1 whole year!
what made it click for you?
I thought the same :) and I'm vegetarian for 4 years, and vegan for 1 year now, too! (And frankly I have no idea what took me so long...)
@@DominionMovementDotOrg Well my whole family is vegetarian and I was born vegetarian so I was raised and taught to respect animals growing up which made it easy to go all the way when I saw Earthlings, cried my self to sleep and couldn't look at dairy the same then I started watching vegan TH-cam's and found out about Cowspiracy. However only my little brother went vegan with me, I was really surprised that the rest of my family didn't. They all thought it was fine that I was vegan but got super defensive and mad if I told them about the dairy industry and would say "you don't know what your talking about" or "you watch to much nonsense". They also can't understand why wool and honey isn't vegan. Anyways that is how I became a "soy boy". 💚🐷❤
@@TheCrimsonPope Awesome! 💚
@@DominionMovementDotOrg Also there was something else that made me click and that was some my teacher said well my class was making apple pie from scratch the doe was going to be made out of lard so I asked if I could make one at home with butter instead and my teacher said "but butter comes from an animal to." and for some reason that really clicked with me. obviously I knew butter came from a cow but I never knew how awful the dairy industry was. And yet that clicked with me.
Thank you for speaking up against animal cruelty.
This reminded me of two things quite simultanuously. I once stumbled upon an article whose author was clearly against veganism and his acceptance of violence and submission was really scary. He rejoiced at the end that farmers were "developping" a breed of cows who would be dead inside enough not to care about this separation. So yeah, some lost souls in there would be ok with turning living sentient beings into zombie milk machines... That just stunned me this kind of person would call himself human... On the other hand, I saw on a sanctuary video a group of rescued dairy cows, including some who had arrived pregnant and had calves, where sometimes, some calf-less cows would baby-sit the calves for the others so they can have some rest after having taken great care of their little ones. Surprising, for heartless beings and terrible mothers, I would say...
Vegan...it is that simple not to hurt animals 🌱💚
Well said Ed. More bullshit reporting. Never trust a Farmer where money is involved to have the well being of an animal at heart.
Yes, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶
The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩
Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT to ban animal agriculture!
“I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”.
Mr. Ed Gaunt,
So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐
th-cam.com/video/Sl5GpxLXnuI/w-d-xo.html
Go to the 8:15 mark.
Money is always involved. Farming is a business. Minimum welfare standards are set by legislation rather than the farmer's consideration. Farmers never lobby government for higher welfare standards!
@@davidpalk5010 And the animals are seen as 'commodities' not living sentient beings with individual personalities.
@@chrissiehorsley304 Genesis 1:28 "...and have dominion over the fish in the sea, and over the foul in the air, and every living thing that moveth upon the earth." Unfortunately our society is still based upon such warped thinking. And so the expectancy and full acceptance of exploitation, cruelty and violent death for gain is "baked in" to our culture. Unsurprisingly, as our society becomes more secular and open minded we become kinder and more rational. There is hope, but there's also a very long way still to go. As an early retiree my life is now dedicated to addressing the blatant hypocrisy.
And farmers' excuses range from pathetic to laughable. As if those excuses can hide their aim of maximising profits.
I know a woman who grew up on a DAIRY farm in Wisconsin, and told me very seriously and without doubt that dairy cows just naturally produce milk, without having a baby. 😳🤯
I've had to argue with people like that over the exact same belief.🤷♀️ Unbelievable.
I have to double check, this sounds too hillarious to be true. Was the woman actively working on the farm or she was simply the daughter of farmers?
@@elpretender1357 People just don't think!🤷♀️
@@OM617a The unintended irony in your statement is just beautiful.
I used to love watching Countryfile when I was younger because of the lovely scenery over the uk and seeing all the cute animals, now that my eyes have been opened I’m like how can you treat animals like this. Now I don’t watch it.😢💔
Same, it’s all propaganda by the lying farmers
I still don't understand why after so much information made available people still continue to choose not to make change. Love your work Ed 🌿💚
@New Angel Tarot
It took ages to get people to wear seatbelts, drive sober… put the loo seat back down (am I right ladies?).
Everyone wants change, no one wants to change.
🙁
@@PercivalBlakeney Many people are concerned about the climate crisis, but do not change their eating habits etc. Including many activists.
In 2018, Oxford University stated that if we were all plant based or vegan, we could feed everyone worldwide and have land left over to rewild and reforest. 🤷♀️
@@PercivalBlakeney Men too. Not just 'ladies'. Lol.😀
@Benson 100%
@@chrissiehorsley304
It's taken me ages to learn to remember.
If there's even the slimmest chance of a woman using the lavatory… the seat goes back down… end of story.
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Another awesome and informative video. Sharing it everywhere. Thank you!
And the ads of smiling winking cows with young kids happily drinking dairy milk plays on and on. When will it stop?!!
« Dairy cows are bad mothers » that’s the one I hear the most when arguing with farmers. Thanks for this great video Ed !
Really what it should say is. Dairy cows are more likely to be worse mothers than beef cows.
Some are good and some are bad. It's not black and white at all.
It annoys me to see humans that don't care and continue to breastfeed from other animals. Disgraceful!
Yes! Also unnatural, unhealthy, and sick!
humans are not the only animals that do that; it is especially not rare in mammals, though
@@v.a.n.e. Not on an industrial scale though.
@@v.a.n.e. Humans aren't the only species to breastfeed from a completely different species all the way through adulthood? Which animals besides humans drink the breast milk of another species throughout their lifetime?
Me too
Good job pointing out their hypocrisy Ed!
They get to experience the comfort of a mother for only minutes before being put in solitary confinement. For animals that evolved to be part of a herd, that torture is probably worse than the physical torture they will later be subjected to
All cows are great parents the first time--but they get to know what's coming and they suffer from PTSD
I frequent a group called Cow Lovers which has a lot of dairy farmers in it. They almost always claim calf kidnapping is for the best interests of the calf, totally bonkers!!!!!!!!!!!!
@The Weekend Trapper Keep contributing to the algorithms. Thanks.
Have you ever though that it's because it is.
But only because that's the environment they've created so it's the only way to be better.
@@willholliday3537 No it isn't better. Separating mother and baby is cruel. Slaughtering millions of male calves is cruel too.
Has anyone seen the 2nd episode of “Down to Earth with Zac Efron” on Netflix? They went to a small-scale farm and the farmer looked so happy to have a dairy cow to milk and make cheese but I didn’t see a calf there at all… Made me think how could she be happy to separate a mother from their child 😢
Perpetuating the image of a happy cow just GIVING milk. I, for one, spent my entire childhood not realising and not being informed by anyone that cow milk is intended for cow babies and they only produce it after giving birth...
Amazing work Ed!
Yes, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶
The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩
Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT to ban animal agriculture!
“I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”.
Mr. Ed Gaunt,
So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐
th-cam.com/video/Sl5GpxLXnuI/w-d-xo.html
Go to the 8:15 mark.
Thank you for shining a light on this. I really struggle in the moment to articulate these things when put on the spot by people but your talent for conveying heartbreaking messages in an articulate, constructive yet passionate manner is so inspiring. Every time I watch one of your videos I feel that sense of support and community. Thank you 💜
The whole dairy industry is totally disgusting in so many ways, abhorrent cruelty!
Yet so delicious
@@rondarkman. yes. Call me crazy, but I feel like I like cow milk and cheese tastes better if the cow was tortured. And for me, the more blood, feces and urine makes it even more delicious.
@@pawlet
Torture tho
@@rondarkman. yes torture. The dairy cow is forcibly impregnated and then after she gives birth, her baby is stolen from her. That is torture.
Then, after 2 or 3 years, she is loaded on to a truck and that scares the crap out of them (literally, they crap themselves).
Then they arrive to the slaughter house. This is when the cow is tortured the most. The time it takes from when they are unloaded from the truck to the time they are slaughterer.
If you like seeing torture, that is where it's at. Those cows are frozen with fear. ❤️
@@pawlet yes it's only a small fraction of the actual ingredient that goes into some diary products. Hmmm
As always, thank you very much!
Oat milk rules!! Try it!
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 is that supposed to be an argument for something?😂🤦🏼♂️
@@jonasrmb01 No, it's a loser's cry for attention. Fun to laugh at though 🤣
Notice how she starts smiling & gets fidgety when she talks about the babies being "cozy" & when she talks about how long they are kept in the barn? That implies that she doesn't agree with what she's saying, or that she's lying.
Well said Ed, fair play.🌱🐮💚
Times are changing watching this every normal human hearing what she said immediately feels how wrong this is. There is no valid justification to take a new born calf from their mothers!
400 CALFS LEFT TO DIE IN IRELAND LIMERCK FOUND OUT OVER THE SMELL COMMING FROM THE FARM
Thank you for your enlightening work!
My wife and I went whole food, plant based about 7 years ago. We keep our caravan in a compound at the back of a dairy farm, and every time we collect the caravan it is truly heartbreaking to see how these animals are kept. It is horrifying, and we are so grateful we no longer support this barbaric industry.
Thank you Ed and yes, it is always about money
*Create a Better 🌎 and a Better You by ...............Living Vegan* 💜
You have edited your comment, yet it is STILL rife with spelling, grammatical, and punctuation errors, Silly Sinful Slave. 🥴🙄☝️
@@TheWorldTeacher 🤣🤣🤣 Is that all you've got?😂
Horsey culture is animal cruelty.
@@chrissiehorsley304
*Karma* 😆 🤣 😂
@@LouisGedo 🤣😂🤣👌
Matt Baker looked genuinely upset during that segment. I think the viewers picked up on that. I've never seen him look ashamed of animal farming before.
Keep it up!
Yes, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶
The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩
Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT to ban animal agriculture!
“I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”.
Mr. Ed Gaunt,
So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐
th-cam.com/video/Sl5GpxLXnuI/w-d-xo.html
Go to the 8:15 mark.
Thanks for your work! 🙏
Vegan greetings from Germany. ♥️🌱🙂 #Animalrights
Yes, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶
The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩
Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT to ban animal agriculture! “I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”.
Mr. Ed Gaunt,
So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐
th-cam.com/video/Sl5GpxLXnuI/w-d-xo.html
Go to the 8:15 mark.
And from the Netherlands as well! 🌱
#animalsarefood
A coworker was lamenting to me that her friends owned a dairy farm, and their business was going downhill, making less and less money. I said GOOD. She was pissed! Said that it was a BUSINESS!! And their family had been in it for years, now it’s failing.
I told her…the slave trade was a BUSINESS…doesn’t mean that it was a good one to be in. And maybe it’s time they think about doing something different. You can’t blame the public for becoming more educated and making better choices about how they spend their money. And frankly they should be ashamed of enslaving and exploiting animals for generations! Grow oats!!
That first female farm worker, wonder what else she can make sound nice by using a certain inflection, smiling and throwing in a ray of sunshine. Good grief.
Thank you for your work. There is no excuse that could justify the practice of separating a calf from it's mother.
@@rondarkman. And another interaction - you must really love Ed's content. You comment more than us vegans do!
@The Weekend Trapper And another interaction!
@@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent Thankfully the dumpy little trolls are too dumb to realize their childish pleas for attention have only 2 effects. 1 - Helping the algorithm and getting more views for the video. 2 - Making vegans feel better about their choices because of how pathetic the opposing comments are. Honestly, they are so pathetic that I wonder if they are actually vegans just trying to bump up the interactions...but alas, I think in reality they are just too dumb to realize it.
@@michaelmueller260 *effects. You're welcome dumdum
@@ArthurDraper123 Keep contributing to the algorithms. Thanks.
great content as always, ed : )
Once you go vegan, conversations like the one they're having on Countryfile just strikes you as incredibly weird and creepy. Using animals as a means to an end; as producers of products. It blows my mind. Imagine you had no pre-conceived notions on society and culture and you were put in a room with a cow, its calf and a table of fruits and vegetables. It would be the sign of a psychopath if you went straight for the cow, took its calf away, slaughtered the calf, then sucked the milk out of the mother cow before deciding to eat anything else.
I agree. I also find walking past shops and supermarket isles full of body parts like it's "normal" pretty psychopathic
What if you sauteed the veggies to go along with your steak? Would that be more sane?
We're in rapidly changing times.
As a counter, what will happen to those animals if they are not fed by farmers?
Is any farming ethical?
What do you think about building hutches for hens who give us eggs?
We have to protect them from foxes and other hunters, as well as provide shelter, water, food, clean their hutches, check them for lice and so on.
Is that reasonable?
Cows and milk. On small farms of 4-5 cows the cows and calves are kept together. The cow is milked by hand, and only if the calf is grown and eating grass or hay.
That's old style family farming. The milk is used for drinking, butter, cream etc.
The family have to grow fields of grass, mow it, dry it, stackit, carry it back to the barn, stack it again inside the barn. Then each day when it's cold in the winter they have to go to the barn and carry it to the animals, 7 days a week.
This family also know how to grow vegetables and how to dig soil pits to store the vegetables for months, and so that rats can't get to them.
Is that type of farming reasonable?
These farmers also used to keep their cattle in their homes in winter. I've been in these homes as a kid. I'm older now.
I think there's different types of farming. Small holding, one family, they tend to really look after their animals, and do a lot of work to protect and feed them.
What would happen to all those animals if they didn't house and feed them?
Good video Ed, as usual. I have never once heard the subject of separating calves from their mothers ever come up on a dairy farm or anywhere else, other than in your videos. I only saw it done once and it was much, much more brutal than anything you have ever said happens or even what the documentary Milked says happens. The baby cow was slaughtered by slamming it bodily on the concrete and just dumped and left on the barn floor for days and stank putridly. So, the dairy industry is far, far worse than ever portrayed in any documentary or video.
the footage with the emotional farmer is very powerful. very telling indeed.
Yeah that hit me too... in a way a sign of hope as well... that change is always possible
Pretty rare to see a farmer who doesn't block these emotions. He probably has his heart in the right place but still hasn't broken the shackles of the norms of everybody around him.
@@chlorophyllphile must be difficult once you own a farm and a herd, you're really tied in to the whole lifestyle. Change is always possible though
@@zauberholz8357 Yeah, it is much harder to admit you are wrong in that situation. But some farmers manage to do it.
@@chlorophyllphile If I remember correctly he is an ex-dairy farmer.
Your point about the different practices of separating mothers and babies in dairy or beef industries is terrific! As some great person said, ‘there are no coincidences’
I imagine all those who complained about this programme, did so while drinking a tea or coffee with cows milk in it, then the next day purchased more cows milk.....
Yep, the "Great British Animal Lover" who "owns" a designer-breed dog that can't breathe and expects flesh in every meal. Total hypocrites all.
Probably they think the separation of the cow and her baby is the exception to the rule and not the rule. This was likely the first time they were exposed to that and imagine it is some sort of fringe practice only a few farms practice. That's my guess
@@elpretender1357 more than likely, I know a few people who will not believe this happens, even though they have seen many videos on the subject. It's like blind faith.
@@dangerfulmind All faith is blind. Faith is belief based on conviction rather than evidence. When a majority of the population genuinely believes in spirits, miracles and an afterlife, getting them to convince themselves that there's no cruelty in animal agriculture is child's play. And, Genesis 1:28 informs them that any suffering doesn't matter anyway, as humankind has been granted devine dominion over all non-human beings. In my rather unhumble opinion, it's advantageous to approach life with no faith at all in anything. That's called scepticism, and theirin lies truth backed by evidence.
Thanks!
I didn't even think to compare standards between beef and dairy industries! Great informative video that shows the discrepancies between the two industries and how farmers justify 2 opposite actions when it suits them.
Awesome Job once Again Ed!
Heartbreaking
I'm so thankful that you have your sanctuary and that your four cows are together
HUMAN MOTHERS are capable of feeling zero attachment to their baby because of postpartum depression. Mothers have let their babies die or just felt sorrow at their lack of love. Up to 1 in 7 women experience PPD, which can include this symptom, but many others as well.
Gee i wonder if Dairy cows might be depressed?? I wonder if they might just have PPD to the extremes and are lacking the happy chemicals necessary to experience motivation, joy, and love?
They don't. It's so obvious they don't. But they can get stressed from it, definitely.
I saw another one of Ed's videos where a Texan farmer was also justifying taking the calf away from its mother because the mother "would kick the calf". Something that occurred to me then was that this could happen by accident due to the confined space that the mother and calf are kept in.
Vegan 💜🌱
Thanks for what you are doing!
All it took to end my "cream in my coffee" addiction was to hear about a dropper full of pus in every glass of milk ... Uggghh! Shivering right now thinking about that! Now I have oatmilk lattes and it's actually way better! 😃
@Benson 😐 Kinda rude? We want people to stop regardless.
@Benson Fair. I went vegan 6 years ago because I had a spiritual awakening and before I could understand what exactly I was feeling, I was becoming sensitive to what I was consuming. I had to stop eating dairy products because I could literally feel the suffering of the mother whose milk was in what I ate. I would see it like a movie in my head and would sob, no matter where I was. I stopped eating it AND THEN began my research. It all made sense after I did. I apologize for thinking your comment was rude. I was confronted by a former vegan friend of mine that I quit dairy for selfish reasons and I suppose I was triggered by your comment. I take responsibility for that.
@Benson Wow. Ouch. I don't think I deserved that.
That drop of puss is well worth it for my coffee
@Benson Now I understand why so many people are angry with vegans. It was indeed a rude comment, and an assumption you jumped to with no other information as you have just pointed out. You believe yourself to be morally superior, and probably exude your moral superiority as you try to convince others. I see why I've been met with dismissive irritation when I try to do something as simple as getting a vegan meal from a typical restaurant ... even in another country the waiter yelled "no vegania! No vegania!" For your information, I'm vegan for the animals, but I try to help everyone become vegan even if their reason is self help. Any way to get people to stop is good ... your approach is counterproductive.
That heinous programme is responsible for SO much harm, by perpetrating the myth that farms are happy places and animals don't mind meeting a horrible end in slaughterhouses.
This so far has been the craziest thing I've ever heard. They must not really hear or understand what they are saying, because it makes no sense at all.....
I got a dairy farmers of America ad on this video. hahah good video ed!
Then there's the farmer, recently, who was trying to put an ear tag on a calf and the mother cow attacked the female farmer and killed her by stomping on her head.
Then there's Regan Russell...
I find the results of this 2022 UK poll quite interesting;
'What share of people say they are vegetarian, vegan, or flexitarian?' [ourworldindata]
When considering the science of tipping points -
If flexitarians, vegetarians and pescitarians were to transition to being vegan then this may well make up the 25% 'tipping point' of opinion - to potentially landslide the minority into the majority?
Individual's decision - but I do wonder if the governments are too scared to interfere with the food system - yet do they not do this now anyway by the £1.5 billion subsidisation given out to such cruel business?
Great Video Ed
Great video one more time Ed!!! I miss your university debates!!!
What do they feed the calves on during their 8 week’s confinement if not milk? What are they keeping them for? Thank you for this video Ed. So glad I became vegan after many years of vegetarianism.
They're slaughtered around the age of 5 months for 'veal'.😪
Good work, Ed! 💚
I can understand where eating meat and drinking milk comes from. Historically that was a easy source of nutrients. However, in today's world, it just does not make any sense
@The Weekend Trapper Yes, adults need milk 😂😂😂😂 maybe from dog would be good? Or lets make a human milk farm, milking woman etc
@The Weekend Trapper The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics say that a plant based diet is proven to be healthier than that of a meat one and is kinder to our planet too.
B12 deficiency can occur in non vegans and vegans alike.
There are four milk alternatives that are actually healthier than cows milk: hemp, almond, oats and coconut. 😋
Thank you so much Earthling Ed! YOU ROCK!.💜💜💜💜💜💜
Cows are great mothers until they suffer from trauma from continual kidnapping
Unfortunately cows aren't great mothers 🥲
After I saw dominion years ago and went vegan, I posted about it on fb, I come from Victoria Australia where theres lots of Dairy Farms. One friend debated me saying that "farmers care for their cows, look after them, and only want the best for them, some even give their cows names" 🤣 oh I agree, if you had all your children stolen from you at birth, kept pregnant for 4 years straight, constantly milked, and then slaughtered at a fraction of your life span youd be absolutely fine with all that because youve apparently been given the name Big Bertha.
Thank you for keeping me informed and reminding me of the cause, Ed.
The weird thing to me is that as a child after we would milk the mothers I would spray down the parlor to clean all the s*** off the machines and the floor and then I would go outside to mix powdered milk with water to feed the calves of the mothers I just milked, and on this small South Dakota family-owned dairy farm no matter how cold it was these calves were living in solo plastic pens.
The poor calves would be slaughtered at the age of about 5 months old and sold as veal. I'm glad to say that veal isn't popular in the UK.
In the UK we have an 8 week alive standard. And no shooting calves, which still goes on in most other countries. Atleast the UKs standards are the best in the world. It could be so much worse.
@@willholliday3537 The UK's standards are supposed to be the best in the world. But it is still extremely cruel. Over 1,000 factory farms with millions of animals and birds living in hell holes and squalor.
Ed you're always doing the most. Keep it up😎✨️
Ed, I love you so much! Thank You for all that you do for the animals. Thank You for your informative and educational videos. Wish I had your composure, it’s so hard sometimes in getting my point across to the non vegan. 😢
Farmers = Harmers
I agree veg farmers blowing up rabbit Warren's while mama rabbit is suckling her young choking on dirt,birds blown to pieces with shotguns or dying for days because of poison. Dead on.
@@seanmoynihan7471 when you realise there is more crop deaths to feed farm animals:
@@seanmoynihan7471 it's a shame that more of the population isn't Vegan, as Vegan farmers would be more likely to try and find alternatives than Carnists, who run most infrastructure and agriculture, would. At the end of the day, the problem is that Carnists are less than human, and also like to make excuses for not being Vegan by blaming other Carnists for killing animals, mistakenly believing it's a good argument against Vegans.
@@ARKSURVIVOR879 do some proper research. All crops are related to humans not animals. Nearly every crop grown for humans produces byproduct for animals even soya feed to animals is a byproduct even candy bars produce byproducts for animals.
@@seanmoynihan7471, Good Girl! 👌
Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱
The main reason dairy calves are removed from their mothers is the mothers need to be re-impregnated by the farmer as soon as possible to keep them on a yearly cycle
Knowing this makes me want to barf, and not eating cheese or cheesecake is made easy peasy
That's not the main reason. Nor is it factually correct.
You can impregnate a cow even if it's calf drinks milk of it. So that's that quashed.
And the main reason is simply efficient be it cost/welfare/labour efficiency.
comment for the algorithm. Thank you Ed for everything you do!
Such a brave warrior
@@rondarkman. Thanks for another interaction 👍
@@rondarkman. Now that i think of it, you must be contributing to the algorithms favour as well. With 800+ troll comments on the channel you must surely have brought in a few new viewers. Who knows, perhaps it set one of them on the path of becoming vegan?
Thanks for the great video!
I've always seen Matt Baker as the smiling assassin. Appearing kind but the eyes are ice COLD behind the veneered smile. It's very sad but very true.💔🙏
Baker is a farmer. When farmers aren't inflicting cruelty for profit they're doing it for fun - which they now call "field sports". It used to, more aptly, be called blood sports - but hey, let's not frighten the children! Has Countyfile ever featured a pheasant shoot? Nearly all farms and farming folk take part in this horrific leisure activity - at least around here they do. If Countryfile hasn't covered this "sport" every season it's a glaring omission in their portrayal of normal rural life. It seems that on the rare occasions when they do cover the realities of animal agriculture, the complaints come in en-masse because consumers don't want to be faced with witnessing what they're responsible for.
@@davidpalk5010 Yes well put. Everything word you've said is the truth.🙏💔
@@hazelredmond104 Thanks! My veganism is is based on an acceptance and understanding of reality. I won't be taken for a fool. I find beauty in truth, and wish to avoid causing harm. I cannot stand misinformation or willful ignorance of fact. How can killing and maiming for pleasure ever be accepted as sport? How can an activity such as game shooting be so widespread yet never depicted by the TV programme supposedly covering the culture which commonly pracitces it? Countryfile is guilty of idealising rural life from an urban perspective. Reporting a balanced and realistic view of rural life would result in outrage from all sides, so the BBC sells us a sugar-coated version as family viewing that won't trouble consciences or risk commercial interests. Urban families simply couldn't be exposed to the everyday, basic realities of rural Britain, as this would be far too horrific for broadcast. Can you imagine the following?: "And on Countryfile today, Matt Baker visits the latest automated abattoir; Anita Rani tries her hand at bull-semen harvesting; and Adam Henson is in Scotland shooting grouse." No, of course not! The atrocities will never, ever be reported on - despite being imortant and absolutely normal aspects of the British rural economy.
@@davidpalk5010 Thank YOU!! They do, they SUGAR COAT it all. Making it too easy for the TV watchers to swallow. When you know what they're doing it's impossible to unsee the lies. I can't watch TV anymore...I see through all the deceit now. It's mind numbing.🥺
@@hazelredmond104 Only the truth will set us free.
New Carnist argument:
Colostrum tho
Excellent work, as always. Love your videos. 💚💚💚💚.
Good gracious...that's certainly a manly jaw...
@@ArthurDraper123 One's appearance is irrelevant to this post. Oh yeah, you're unable to debate the topic. 🤣🤣🤣👌
@@chrissiehorsley304 what topic? The fact that he loves the videos??
@@chrissiehorsley304 stick to the emojis bud- it makes you look slightly less simple...
Truly eye-opening, thanks Ed!
Some people should be kept in solitary confinement!! These poor creatures endure the life of criminals and murderers. They've done nothing wrong! Thanks Ed, keep shining the light for the voiceless animals.😞😞🙏👍♥️♥️♥️♥️
The dairy farms remind me of the hand maid tale. Used as property to produce money for the big corps
Top work, Ed. All hail the TH-cam algorithm.
The dilution of colostrum was new to me, I've heard them say calves stay in isolation to prevent the calves being infected by one another, or squashed by mother or other adults, and lastly, that its easier to make sure theyve had their milk because in a group of marked calves, humans apparantly can still hand rear them and allow one or more to starve?
If they don't get that colostrum they are far more likely to die earlier in the herd and be unhealthy.
Effectively taking the calf away from a dairy cow in its self is maybe not the best welfare.
But not taking it away is also not the best welfare.
Which would you rather have? A longer living calf by a significant margin. Or a calf that stayed with its mum forever.
I'd also point out many calves end up being In the same herd as there mother once they start lactating.
As yoda said in shared wars..." devious they are, they have gone over to the dark side"..
Go vegan , evething is changing, walk with the change.
Nope way to many cool animals to eat
@@rondarkman. Lol, what an original and well thought out response 😂 Thanks for another interaction 👍
So I googled "colostrum dilution" and found that it is actually a thing and discussed within the dairy industry. But it seems the only reason the colostrum is diluted is because the farmer starts milking the mother immediately for profit, and because the output of milk is unnaturally increased the colostrum loses its concentration and is unnaturally diluted. The farmers are advised how important it is to the calf to receive this undiluted colostrum yet, ironically, instead of just allowing the calf to stay and nurse the mother and receive this important fluid within the first few days of life they are told they must bottle feed it to the calves themselves. So wrong!
Business wants to make money. Not lose money. Simple as that.
Bottle feeding is more measurable than leaving to a mother. You have an absolute guarantee that they are getting a set amount of good quality colostrum every time and in time. They need 4 litres of colostrum within 2 hours to have the optimal health in its later life. This is very measurable and reflective in later life as cows that havent had enough at birth are more likely to be culled earlier or get infections or be less efficient producers of milk.
Taking the calf is the best welfare thing to do most of the time. But perhaps that's because of the way the infrastructure on farm has gone.
Another great video!
I just want to express my gratitude to you Ed, for raising awareness on these things. Please keep doing this