I've been bad at responding to comments for anyone who has any questions, so I'll try my best to get to you guys. Keep in mind though that I'm no Tekken master, in fact I'm a scrub at this game, so I will have limited knowledge about certain things. I'm just here to try to add to the wealth of Tekken knowledge for pad users (DS4/Dualsense specifically).
30 minutes into practicing this and one thing that greatly increased my consistency was making sure that I pressed down back(on PS5 pad) together, and then of course, release them and hit back like he's saying but be sure to press them together. You will get the extra back just as he says. I can absolutely tell that this is going to take hella time and patience like you're saying. I was able to get a string of down back, backs together without the head bobbing. Without the first part, none of this works, so until the first part is absolute muscle memory, none of this is going to work and definitely not in battle. Thank you so much for this video. I'm at a point where I absolutely see how powerful this can be in my gameplay(im Ryujin blue rank level). So I'm going to spend the next two weeks not playing the game and simply working at this. Thanks again!
this was actually really helpful. i’ve never learned something so quick from a single video. i’m still trying to find my way out of the weird head stage, but i’m still happy to have at least got the inputs down.
Instead of the 16 second video "tutorials" pasted all over TH-cam with no explanation and 16 seconds of someone's hands mashing a pad, you actually explained what was going on, and why. This included even the weird variants from either going too fast or too slow with the input. Thank you for doing this.
This is the best backdash explanation for controller-players on youtube! I passed the 80% hurdle today. Im playing bass. So thank you for this rhythm and guitar comparisons, cause it clearly helped me out, to understood the principe faster.
Hey dude .. I finally found the sequence for the backdash since 4 days ago when I watched this video Is to just to polish it and make it like second nature Thanks for the video 💪 Edit : its 9 months now and i finally master this technique ... 👏 Though on the left side..need to do it on the right side now .. i am doing it but have times where my inputs are wrong and the consistency is not there edit: 10 months later finally got it on the right side now didnt think id master this technique in the first place... i even nail it down on my weaker side as well as a matter of fact, im doing it better on my right side practise and stubborness makes perfect
Basic backdash is still a good Tool if you know how to use it kbd is helpful but not really necessary I went all the way up to raijin without kbd or wave dash or instant wr moves
This is the best KBD guide on TH-cam. I main Nina (sway character) who needs KBD , i mastered her everything except KBD and wanted to switch to arcade stick for this shit ... You motivated me to stay on pad because KBD is possible on pad... Thanks for the video ❤️
This is so much better than how my friend taught me how to play Tekken. Which was to just kick my ass over and over again until I started to pick a few things up. lol
You're the reason I can KBD now brother. Thank you so much! Nobody else explained this as clear and as fast as you did. 3 mins into the video I was already able to try it on my own and practice!
Excellent tutorial I’ve been playing Tekken since 5 and could never figure out the input method of backdashing I’ll definitely work on 2P side it looks more difficult. Thanks!
Thx so much man! I was wondering why I was doing it wrong! Turns out I was doing down instead of d/b ! And after using your method...in just 2 hours I can now do 2 in a row! I’ve still got a lot to learn but I can actually do the Korean back dash now!
Been a huge fan of Tekken since the first game and KBD has always stonewalled me from upping my skill level. I’m currently on day 7 of practicing this tutorial and still cannot do more than a double backdash at most. I’ve tried Speedkick’s methodology previously and no dice. I’ve tried every “trick” I could find. Time to face facts and give up Tekken altogether, which is sad because I really love the game, and have for decades now, other than this artificially difficult skill you have to learn just to move backwards. This isn’t to say that the video is bad or it doesn’t work. I fully accept it’s all me, and it’s too to see it has worked for others.
You actually dont need more than 2-3 kbd if your able to do 2-3 you will be just fine because you will be able to whiff punish and thats mainly what you need. More kbd will come naturally so dont worry too much about it, and dont give up on this great game.
I also noticed that there is another way for KBD. BBDBDBDBDBDB.....with a certain rhythm. The character moves the same but command history shows b-d-db-b...... It is a bit easier but theoretically slower. You can try if dont mind.
YOOO!! Thank you dude. So Im new to tekken and I noticed this was a thing. I started searching for it and found some videos and tryd it, it was so frustrating but after I watched this it took me like 4hours of struggling to get the input right. Kept getting some stupid down arrows. Anyway I finally got it and now I only need to work on speed and rythm. TY again dude, good video and good showing it on the pad.
I'm glad I found this vid! thank you so much for the amount of effort that you put into showing us how to do it. definitely the best kbd toturial i've watched
Thank you for making this tutorial. Best one and I only play on pad like you do. I'ma Akuma main and moving is definitely my weakness along with combos but moving is so hard.
Very helpful thank you so much,a lot of TH-camr just say,Just hit b,db,d repeatedly which is so un-detailed they are so lazy. You deserve a sub and a like
@@Xaxan6523 we could probably have an hour long debate on the "necessity" of the difficulty of various things in tekken, but I'm of the opinion that it shouldn't be this difficult to just back away from your opponent. TMM had a video where I thought he made a good point - basically that knowing "when" to backdash is already difficult and takes a lot of skill to do it effectively, so knowing "how" to back dash doesn't need to be this hard.
Thanks a lot man, very apreciated. For the first time im doing kbd in the good way. Best tutorial ever !!! I started to think that was impossible for me ... now i just have to train harder to make it faster.
15:12 "i just got used to the game that asks so much for so little" haha ouch, that's kinda harsh (but I've heard the same criticism from others :P). anyway, nearly 2 years later, you're still helping new players such as myself with a great, no-nonsense tutorial. Cheers!
I never knew that when you release DB it automatically takes back input 😂😂😂 now i am gonna master the shit out of this trick....thanks a lot good friend...
Thank you for making this much easier, I finally got the hang of it and it helped me so much in ranks thank you. I’ve also gotten faster with it anyway thank you again for making this video and for explaining how to do it
Thanks so much for the great tutorial & mentioning that headbobbing when the input is too fast/without rhythm. Ive been wondering what I've been doing wrong for almost a week now.
A very helpful video man and thank you for your help for this community. I play Tekken since tekken 2 but I was always too lazy to learn the korean backdash so I always hit backdash and than after that I cancel with a SS down. Anyway, my question to you is, what method for the KBD would you recommend? Do you recommend the method with the TIP of your thumb? Or rather the method with the BOTTOM of your thumb. I ask, because I'm learning it now and I realize that I pressure the tip of the thumb and it starts to feel uncomfortable. Is that normal at the beginning? And was it the same for you as you learned it? Just feel free to explain it how you mastered it :). Thank you in advance!
Incognito I was doing exactly the same thing (backdash into ss left) and now after 1 hour practice thanks to this video I can do 3 clean Korean backdashes in a row (but not more at this point)
bro i was training since 2hour and discovered alone that u need cancel at the crouch moment, then i found ur video, so clean guide by the way, force to you ! i just need work the speed, urs looks so clean xD
Great tutorial, im trash but I now sometimes get the motion right a few times in a row (not the first time thought wich is the most important) but I guess is a matter of time and practice.
awesome vid, helped alot... setting the Ai on stand and approach would be good on practice to avoid resetting everytime you're at the end of the screen
I’ve been trying this method on the ps5 controller and it’s still working perfectly thanks to you. I watched multiple tutorials but this one is the best so far. My question is that i’m not sure whether i’ll be able to be fast enough without having to hold the back button after df. Does anyone know which part of the kbd has to be pressed fast compared to the other buttons?
im putting my time to learn this. But honestly this backdashing is so stupid do have in game. They could have just had this crap if you start spamming back button. Its unnecessary hand conditioning.
I know its unnecessarily difficult, especially for newcomers. That is the point though. The game is supposed to be immensily difficult to play and practice like it would be to train and fight in a real mma match; like how real fighters spend tons of time in the gym working on footwork and form just for one fight, you too will be spending lots of time in practice mode for just a few online matches. This concept of difficulty can apply for a game like Dark Souls as an example. As the chosen undead, you are destined to save Lordran and light the kiln of the first flame, but will suffer extreme torment in the process leading you closer to hollowing. Its a metaphor for how difficult the game will be for you. If the game was made easier, just like simplifying korean backdash, it would make this concept of hollowing or training to be the king of the iron fist less poignant. The point I am making is you have to want to be good if you want the full Tekken experience.
@@zwerble_ Sure, i understand your point. But i dont think that backdash is something that should require so much experience. Its not really a sort of knowledge thing to make your performance better. To be a better player you would need alot of experience, fundamentals, punishment knowledge and there are so many things that need to be improved. Korean backdash surely improves gameplay alot because it helps you force whifs etc. But honestly, is it really needed to go that far to simply learn backdashin? Not to mention how much strain it puts on your health. Fingers and wrist get painful from this movement alot and could very likely seriously injure wrist tendons and this gets much worse if you use an arcade stick. Most pro players who use arcade stick have pretty much painfull and iritated wrists from this movement alone. After all its a game to have fun, not a physical barrier or olympic weightlifting to push your physical limits lol. I understand the fact that it makes alot of difference from intermidiate to high level of tekken. But to me its still overcomplicated. For us tekken lovers who played the game for ages it really does not bother us. But for the community itself and 95% of people who are begineer to mid level would probably lead to frustrations because they cant stand a chance since the opponent has better arm conditioning and literaly is a pro at backdashing. This would probably lead many of them frustrated and probably throw away the game. Hopefully in the future tekken games they would change korean backdash into an easier patter like just simply backdashing 3 times fast and keeping the pace to start korean backdashing
@@Stockfish1511 I have to say I agree with this. I've been casually playing Tekken since Tekken 3 using pad. I tend to prefer arcade stick for games that have simpler movement like soul Calibur and Virtua fighter. Recently I've come to be obsessed with ergonomics. I type a lot of my job and i noticed I was getting pain from both poor typing and the wrong shaped mouse. I know pros have muscled through this and have used these complex movements for a while, but this movement feels unnecessarily complex. I would understand it if regular backdashes were useful but I most cases they aren't. I'm looking at trying out a hitbox not for precise movements but for better ergonomics.
@@Stockfish1511 Nope i can't backdash yet and im a new player in the sense that im now diving deeper into the game, but ive been pretty much mashing since the Tekken 2 demo i got with my original Playstation as a kid, but i don't agree with you, there are plenty of simple fighting games to play, why do you think smash is so popular, i chose Tekken as a fighting game i want to learn in depth because of these complex mechanics, and i appreciate them and the reward for actually putting in the effort to learn them and I don't want to see it added to the dumbed down pile. In this era of gaming it seems "fun" means instant gratification and winning, ive lost a whole lot but i still have fun because im never on autopilot and gradually win more & more games as i make progress and learn my character and different matchups, Im never bored that uphill process is fun to me, thats Tekken to me and im confident every good player went through the same process. If its a medical issue that holds you back then honestly you cant fault a game that has always been the way it is for that, choose a different controller like mix or hit box or another game, but changing a fundamental part of a legacy game like Tekken so drastically wont do the series any good, Tekken 7 almost didn't happen and they cant make the same mistake Street Fighter V did after the triumph that was Street Fighter IV.....Tekken 7 is our Street Fighter IV, just my opinion.
@@NuckleBebop i don't think anyones arguing to remove everything and anything that makes this game deep and difficult. Tekken's not going to suddenly not be a hard game any more if they just reduce the cool down between backdashes. I think it is kind of dumb you have to practice so hard just to be able to effectively back away from your opponent when there's so much else going on in this game that is so much more fun and interesting to spend time practising. TMM had a video on the "unnecessary" difficulty of tekken and he used the kbd as an example, arguing that since it takes skill to know "when" and "why" you should back dash, is it really necessary for it to be difficult to know "how" to back dash?
what helped me to use movement is stop thinking of it like a thing like KBD is a thing think of it as your just moving and find a way to move faster thats how i taught myself to backdash cancel with crouch and its basically the same thing
Just a question for understanding. I’m practicing for 2 weeks now. Input works but after every training session my thumb hurts after 10 min already now. Is that normal due to gaining muscle memory?
I'll put up a video on how to do it. But I'm not a Mishima player though so I can't really wavedash into ewgf. I'll practice it and put a tutorial on it for you
Hello Buddy, probably I can help about korean wavedash and Backdash for mishimas I have alrdy uploaded 2 Videos in that few Months ago on my Chanel Check it out. I have my own technique how to do it fast But im gonna Upload soon Another One where I show how I Do very fast micro dash on pad and lightdash only very few ppl are able to do that on pad
At 3:00 you're talking about how when you release down+back you get an "automatic" back input, but on your first attempt to show us that, you clearly get a neutral input and then you reset and try again, so how is it an "automatic" back? I've seen a few other videos suggest the same thing but when ever I try it always goes to neutral when I release down+back
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I've been bad at responding to comments for anyone who has any questions, so I'll try my best to get to you guys. Keep in mind though that I'm no Tekken master, in fact I'm a scrub at this game, so I will have limited knowledge about certain things. I'm just here to try to add to the wealth of Tekken knowledge for pad users (DS4/Dualsense specifically).
You're a tekken God to me bro 👌
your the fucking goat thank you
Did you switch to dualsence?
"im making this tutorial for a friend of mine who just got tekken 7"
you're a good friend man.
This guy is really the best teacher ever seen in Tekken's history.
Seriously kind words man thank you!
@@zwerble_ it is the truth, you taught most of the casual crowd, a majority, how to execute this technique. Thank you
Seriously though, movement in tekken is more important than anything.
This is the best method by far i had no idea theres a rolling method this video should have over 1k likes
Done
this is hands down the best korean backdash tutorial i've seen on youtube
30 minutes into practicing this and one thing that greatly increased my consistency was making sure that I pressed down back(on PS5 pad) together, and then of course, release them and hit back like he's saying but be sure to press them together. You will get the extra back just as he says.
I can absolutely tell that this is going to take hella time and patience like you're saying. I was able to get a string of down back, backs together without the head bobbing. Without the first part, none of this works, so until the first part is absolute muscle memory, none of this is going to work and definitely not in battle.
Thank you so much for this video. I'm at a point where I absolutely see how powerful this can be in my gameplay(im Ryujin blue rank level). So I'm going to spend the next two weeks not playing the game and simply working at this. Thanks again!
1 yr later how we looking?
This is the most 'big brother' video I've seen.
Lol true
How did i give it away? lol
This tutorial is objectively better than the ones posted by dedicated tekken tutorial channel. That’s pretty amazing
This is literally the best KBD tutorial vid on TH-cam thanks a lot my dude
this was actually really helpful. i’ve never learned something so quick from a single video. i’m still trying to find my way out of the weird head stage, but i’m still happy to have at least got the inputs down.
Bro! You are the best at teaching this. Hands down.....I was able to get the rhythm immediately once you explained. Thanks for teaching us!
Instead of the 16 second video "tutorials" pasted all over TH-cam with no explanation and 16 seconds of someone's hands mashing a pad, you actually explained what was going on, and why.
This included even the weird variants from either going too fast or too slow with the input. Thank you for doing this.
This is the best backdash explanation for controller-players on youtube! I passed the 80% hurdle today.
Im playing bass. So thank you for this rhythm and guitar comparisons, cause it clearly helped me out, to understood the principe faster.
This is the best kbd tutorial on a pad ever, I’ve always had trouble with the move but after watching this vid my kbd has improved way more. Thanks
Hey dude ..
I finally found the sequence for the backdash since 4 days ago when I watched this video
Is to just to polish it and make it like second nature
Thanks for the video 💪
Edit : its 9 months now and i finally master this technique ... 👏
Though on the left side..need to do it on the right side now .. i am doing it but have times where my inputs are wrong and the consistency is not there
edit: 10 months later
finally got it on the right side now
didnt think id master this technique in the first place... i even nail it down on my weaker side as well
as a matter of fact, im doing it better on my right side
practise and stubborness makes perfect
This is probably the best tutorial for KBD I've ever seen. Thanks!
My backdash has been so basic to many years, i decided to try master this, great technique man
Basic backdash is still a good Tool if you know how to use it kbd is helpful but not really necessary I went all the way up to raijin without kbd or wave dash or instant wr moves
This is the best KBD guide on TH-cam.
I main Nina (sway character) who needs KBD , i mastered her everything except KBD and wanted to switch to arcade stick for this shit ...
You motivated me to stay on pad because KBD is possible on pad...
Thanks for the video ❤️
This is so much better than how my friend taught me how to play Tekken. Which was to just kick my ass over and over again until I started to pick a few things up. lol
Well after the basic Boot Camp things thats the only way to do it
You're the reason I can KBD now brother. Thank you so much! Nobody else explained this as clear and as fast as you did. 3 mins into the video I was already able to try it on my own and practice!
Excellent tutorial I’ve been playing Tekken since 5 and could never figure out the input method of backdashing I’ll definitely work on 2P side it looks more difficult. Thanks!
Thx so much man!
I was wondering why I was doing it wrong! Turns out I was doing down instead of d/b !
And after using your method...in just 2 hours I can now do 2 in a row! I’ve still got a lot to learn but I can actually do the Korean back dash now!
I’m not even a beginner but this definitely helped me figure out how to master it
you just killed my last reason to keep the fighting stick :D thank you : )
Einfach backdash durch den Typen gelernt bester Mann ❤
Been a huge fan of Tekken since the first game and KBD has always stonewalled me from upping my skill level. I’m currently on day 7 of practicing this tutorial and still cannot do more than a double backdash at most. I’ve tried Speedkick’s methodology previously and no dice. I’ve tried every “trick” I could find. Time to face facts and give up Tekken altogether, which is sad because I really love the game, and have for decades now, other than this artificially difficult skill you have to learn just to move backwards.
This isn’t to say that the video is bad or it doesn’t work. I fully accept it’s all me, and it’s too to see it has worked for others.
You actually dont need more than 2-3 kbd if your able to do 2-3 you will be just fine because you will be able to whiff punish and thats mainly what you need. More kbd will come naturally so dont worry too much about it, and dont give up on this great game.
I also noticed that there is another way for KBD. BBDBDBDBDBDB.....with a certain rhythm. The character moves the same but command history shows b-d-db-b...... It is a bit easier but theoretically slower. You can try if dont mind.
YOOO!! Thank you dude. So Im new to tekken and I noticed this was a thing. I started searching for it and found some videos and tryd it, it was so frustrating but after I watched this it took me like 4hours of struggling to get the input right. Kept getting some stupid down arrows. Anyway I finally got it and now I only need to work on speed and rythm. TY again dude, good video and good showing it on the pad.
Just gotta say this is the first vid that has made me feel like I actually understand what KBD is and how to theoretically do it. Great job, thanks!
This tutorial is perfect, I learned the back dash in 3 days
This video is actually helpful to get better in backdashing
Best backdash video on TH-cam!!!!!!!!! My backdash from left side is nice. Today im learn from right side
I'm glad I found this vid! thank you so much for the amount of effort that you put into showing us how to do it. definitely the best kbd toturial i've watched
Ever since i learned this, my friends can never beat me lmao
I think all of us who watched this is a beginner. Thanks this is really helpful. Also it's fine to make longer videos as long as it's fully detailed.
Ithink he was worried about the videos size not so much that he couldn’t do it
Thank you for making this tutorial. Best one and I only play on pad like you do. I'ma Akuma main and moving is definitely my weakness along with combos but moving is so hard.
Very helpful thank you so much,a lot of TH-camr just say,Just hit b,db,d repeatedly which is so un-detailed they are so lazy.
You deserve a sub and a like
I sent this video to my Tekken homies; I bought a stick to do this, because I didn't even think I could on d-pad. Thank you very much for this!
You teach the Korean backdash better than Koreans. I saw this video and understood it perfectly
Thanks man
Some things are really unnecessarily difficult in Tekken..
Its not unnecessary though. It is what makes a Tekken game different from the rest. Also Legacy skills matter!
@@Xaxan6523 we could probably have an hour long debate on the "necessity" of the difficulty of various things in tekken, but I'm of the opinion that it shouldn't be this difficult to just back away from your opponent. TMM had a video where I thought he made a good point - basically that knowing "when" to backdash is already difficult and takes a lot of skill to do it effectively, so knowing "how" to back dash doesn't need to be this hard.
"string a bunch of Koreans" 🤣
ik it's 3 years late but I just started learning backsway characters and this is really helpful bc i keep doing b/d/db instead of b/db ty
Watched this after switching to pad from stick after 5 years...this video sped up the transition immensely.
Bro u are the best some players who really need to learn back dash should see this method thank you so much
Just got this in my recommended. This video deserves every view it‘s getting.
Thanks a lot man, very apreciated. For the first time im doing kbd in the good way. Best tutorial ever !!! I started to think that was impossible for me ... now i just have to train harder to make it faster.
I thought getting the second back on release was an arcade stick qwerk. This really helped thanks
This guy is the definition of teaching mastery! Great job!
Been searching all morning and this is one of the best KBD videos. Good job man
15:12 "i just got used to the game that asks so much for so little"
haha ouch, that's kinda harsh (but I've heard the same criticism from others :P).
anyway, nearly 2 years later, you're still helping new players such as myself with a great, no-nonsense tutorial. Cheers!
I never knew that when you release DB it automatically takes back input 😂😂😂 now i am gonna master the shit out of this trick....thanks a lot good friend...
Thank you for making this much easier, I finally got the hang of it and it helped me so much in ranks thank you. I’ve also gotten faster with it anyway thank you again for making this video and for explaining how to do it
I just figured out the rolling method the other day, and it works so perfect
Yo thanks this actually helped me out keep up the good work and hope your channel grows👌
The first time I've seen a dpad kbd tutorial. Very nice.
2nd video i watched trying to learn it, 5 minutes later got it consistently both sides with byran / paul, key is to watch the thumb, thank you!
holy shit, thank you! i didn't realize a korean backdash could be done on a pad
Thanks so much for the great tutorial & mentioning that headbobbing when the input is too fast/without rhythm. Ive been wondering what I've been doing wrong for almost a week now.
Great tutorial for us pad players! For reviewing purposes 04:30
this is the best tutorial of back dash iv seen. thank you for this helpful video ..
Once you said "don't engulf the entire down arrow" It clicked for me immediately. Thanks man I got it now😁
Literally the best video on this. Thank you bro 🙏🏽
Just want to thank you. I finally master this technique
Excellent video, thanks for sharing and you should put out regular tutorials, teaching method and fundamentals are legit!
A very helpful video man and thank you for your help for this community.
I play Tekken since tekken 2 but I was always too lazy to learn the korean backdash so I always hit backdash and than after that I cancel with a SS down.
Anyway, my question to you is, what method for the KBD would you recommend?
Do you recommend the method with the TIP of your thumb? Or rather the method with the BOTTOM of your thumb.
I ask, because I'm learning it now and I realize that I pressure the tip of the thumb and it starts to feel uncomfortable.
Is that normal at the beginning? And was it the same for you as you learned it?
Just feel free to explain it how you mastered it :).
Thank you in advance!
Incognito I was doing exactly the same thing (backdash into ss left) and now after 1 hour practice thanks to this video I can do 3 clean Korean backdashes in a row (but not more at this point)
bro i was training since 2hour and discovered alone that u need cancel at the crouch moment, then i found ur video, so clean guide by the way, force to you ! i just need work the speed, urs looks so clean xD
Thanks man this helped a lot I found it easier to do it on p2 side but it's really simple with ur method 👍
Best and clearest kbd tutorial!!!
I would say this video's is underated but thnk you so much for making this you explained it perfectly bro keep making videos
ok with bryan that's just god damn amazing
I definitely need to learn KDB, the video is very helpful.
Nice turtorial. I can play Heihachi but i haven't mastered korean backdash.
Great tutorial, im trash but I now sometimes get the motion right a few times in a row (not the first time thought wich is the most important) but I guess is a matter of time and practice.
Thanks bro realy easy to understand gonna train once I hit home.
I don't even play on pad ! But still a very helpful tutorial i will show it to my friends who play on pad 😊 i play on stick
This is the best explanation I’ve ever seen
Thanks a lot man.
I’ll practice this everyday.
Thank you for this video very clear and well explained
Tyy this was a great vid. No joke. Best turorial on yt about this
Hey guys learning koreanback dash so worth it to learn it'll gonna take a little while, it will be natural for you just practice
awesome vid, helped alot... setting the Ai on stand and approach would be good on practice to avoid resetting everytime you're at the end of the screen
i use my index fingers to press the buttons , 2 thumbs does make you focus less on the buttons but i can reach it
I’ve been trying this method on the ps5 controller and it’s still working perfectly thanks to you. I watched multiple tutorials but this one is the best so far. My question is that i’m not sure whether i’ll be able to be fast enough without having to hold the back button after df. Does anyone know which part of the kbd has to be pressed fast compared to the other buttons?
im putting my time to learn this. But honestly this backdashing is so stupid do have in game. They could have just had this crap if you start spamming back button. Its unnecessary hand conditioning.
I know its unnecessarily difficult, especially for newcomers. That is the point though. The game is supposed to be immensily difficult to play and practice like it would be to train and fight in a real mma match; like how real fighters spend tons of time in the gym working on footwork and form just for one fight, you too will be spending lots of time in practice mode for just a few online matches.
This concept of difficulty can apply for a game like Dark Souls as an example. As the chosen undead, you are destined to save Lordran and light the kiln of the first flame, but will suffer extreme torment in the process leading you closer to hollowing. Its a metaphor for how difficult the game will be for you. If the game was made easier, just like simplifying korean backdash, it would make this concept of hollowing or training to be the king of the iron fist less poignant.
The point I am making is you have to want to be good if you want the full Tekken experience.
@@zwerble_ Sure, i understand your point. But i dont think that backdash is something that should require so much experience. Its not really a sort of knowledge thing to make your performance better. To be a better player you would need alot of experience, fundamentals, punishment knowledge and there are so many things that need to be improved. Korean backdash surely improves gameplay alot because it helps you force whifs etc. But honestly, is it really needed to go that far to simply learn backdashin? Not to mention how much strain it puts on your health. Fingers and wrist get painful from this movement alot and could very likely seriously injure wrist tendons and this gets much worse if you use an arcade stick. Most pro players who use arcade stick have pretty much painfull and iritated wrists from this movement alone. After all its a game to have fun, not a physical barrier or olympic weightlifting to push your physical limits lol. I understand the fact that it makes alot of difference from intermidiate to high level of tekken. But to me its still overcomplicated. For us tekken lovers who played the game for ages it really does not bother us. But for the community itself and 95% of people who are begineer to mid level would probably lead to frustrations because they cant stand a chance since the opponent has better arm conditioning and literaly is a pro at backdashing. This would probably lead many of them frustrated and probably throw away the game. Hopefully in the future tekken games they would change korean backdash into an easier patter like just simply backdashing 3 times fast and keeping the pace to start korean backdashing
@@Stockfish1511 I have to say I agree with this. I've been casually playing Tekken since Tekken 3 using pad. I tend to prefer arcade stick for games that have simpler movement like soul Calibur and Virtua fighter. Recently I've come to be obsessed with ergonomics. I type a lot of my job and i noticed I was getting pain from both poor typing and the wrong shaped mouse. I know pros have muscled through this and have used these complex movements for a while, but this movement feels unnecessarily complex. I would understand it if regular backdashes were useful but I most cases they aren't. I'm looking at trying out a hitbox not for precise movements but for better ergonomics.
@@Stockfish1511 Nope i can't backdash yet and im a new player in the sense that im now diving deeper into the game, but ive been pretty much mashing since the Tekken 2 demo i got with my original Playstation as a kid, but i don't agree with you, there are plenty of simple fighting games to play, why do you think smash is so popular, i chose Tekken as a fighting game i want to learn in depth because of these complex mechanics, and i appreciate them and the reward for actually putting in the effort to learn them and I don't want to see it added to the dumbed down pile. In this era of gaming it seems "fun" means instant gratification and winning, ive lost a whole lot but i still have fun because im never on autopilot and gradually win more & more games as i make progress and learn my character and different matchups, Im never bored that uphill process is fun to me, thats Tekken to me and im confident every good player went through the same process. If its a medical issue that holds you back then honestly you cant fault a game that has always been the way it is for that, choose a different controller like mix or hit box or another game, but changing a fundamental part of a legacy game like Tekken so drastically wont do the series any good, Tekken 7 almost didn't happen and they cant make the same mistake Street Fighter V did after the triumph that was Street Fighter IV.....Tekken 7 is our Street Fighter IV, just my opinion.
@@NuckleBebop i don't think anyones arguing to remove everything and anything that makes this game deep and difficult. Tekken's not going to suddenly not be a hard game any more if they just reduce the cool down between backdashes. I think it is kind of dumb you have to practice so hard just to be able to effectively back away from your opponent when there's so much else going on in this game that is so much more fun and interesting to spend time practising.
TMM had a video on the "unnecessary" difficulty of tekken and he used the kbd as an example, arguing that since it takes skill to know "when" and "why" you should back dash, is it really necessary for it to be difficult to know "how" to back dash?
Ty for this, now I can bully my cousins who are good at combos but bad at movements😂
what helped me to use movement is stop thinking of it like a thing like KBD is a thing think of it as your just moving and find a way to move faster thats how i taught myself to backdash cancel with crouch and its basically the same thing
Just a question for understanding. I’m practicing for 2 weeks now. Input works but after every training session my thumb hurts after 10 min already now. Is that normal due to gaining muscle memory?
It is, before I learned it was a little sore on my thumb but now I don’t feel it anymore because of experience with the proper motion
Thank you so much form Italy! I appreciate a lot!
I wish someone does this for wacedashing and ewgf
I'll put up a video on how to do it. But I'm not a Mishima player though so I can't really wavedash into ewgf. I'll practice it and put a tutorial on it for you
Hello Buddy, probably I can help about korean wavedash and Backdash for mishimas I have alrdy uploaded 2 Videos in that few Months ago on my Chanel Check it out. I have my own technique how to do it fast But im gonna Upload soon Another One where I show how I Do very fast micro dash on pad and lightdash only very few ppl are able to do that on pad
They should do challenges like how sf 4 and 5 had. But for the korean back dash cuz thing is a pain to figure out if you're doing it right.
thanks man, it really helped me a lot
Im glad i could help out. us pad players need to stick together lol
Bro!! Cheers this is quality instructions
Don't do the dash part start out with just a downback then input one back after its much easier this way to build chains
This was so helpful, thankyou so much
At 3:00 you're talking about how when you release down+back you get an "automatic" back input, but on your first attempt to show us that, you clearly get a neutral input and then you reset and try again, so how is it an "automatic" back? I've seen a few other videos suggest the same thing but when ever I try it always goes to neutral when I release down+back
You have to time it so the back gets released a split-second before the down. This gives you a back input.
It's not a korean backdash . it's a japanese backdash, "yamada step"
Tekken it get called kbd
@@jaydencunliffe5104 They are not ashamed to claim Japanese technology as their own.
Your video is the best in this matter! Thx!
thx so much. going to practice mode first. definitely will try this. tc. ;]
Keep trying and my character just keeps moving downward instead of just straight back
thanks bro super easy vid to understand nice job
I thought it was impossible, thanks man