Isn't it inspiring to hear someone stand faithfully to do the right thing in the Name of Jesus Christ? He's evidently a happy man to be able to say he did not cave into the fear of man because instead he feared the Lord.
Gotta love the 11th commandment...sigh. Thank God for a man of this caliber. And thanks Jon for introducing Dr. Fuller to your audience some time back. God gave him a backbone of titanium "for such a time as this". Lord please give us thousands more who will stand for the truth at all costs.
Dr. fuller is a tremendous example of courage and boldness in standing up for righteousness and the truth of the gospel! I'm so grateful for what he's done in sacrificing his job/livelihood for the sake of exposing the wokeness and the blatant disregard for God's Word at Southern, in the SBC in general, and elsewhere. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Dr. Fuller...and you also, Jon, for being bold and exposing the truth! God's abundant blessings on you both!
Thank you. I’ve only been following you for a while and have never been a Baptist, but your channel helps me understand what’s going on with the SBC (and most other denominations as well as many non-denoms).
Dr. Fuller you are a man of courage. Thank you for being an example. I have taken online classes from Dr. Fuller as well as Dr. Rush, they are well worth the time and effort. I am thankful God has led you to do the seminary classes online.
I am so glad to hear Dr. Fuller speak about his experience at Southern Seminary. I have witnessed first hand very similar things happening at Christian Colleges as well. Colleagues who have worked at schools like Biola and Multnomah have experienced the very same course of events. The college president presents as a conservative while packing the board of trustees with liberals and it is not long but for the institution is "fundamentally transformed". The only way to combat this is to expose it boldly and stop sending our money and our children to these institution unless or until they change their ways. These are dark days for the Church but I know the truth of Christ will ultimately prevail.
Dr. Fuller thank you for speaking out and for being faithful to the Gospel. I appreciate how God is using you. I almost went to Southern, but God made it so that it didn't work out. I'm so grateful. I had no idea what I would have walked into.
God bless Dr. Russell Fuller for his faithfulness to the truth of God's Word!!! A real Man of God can't deny who he is when asked to do so; no matter what time he is in!
One of the most encouraging things I’ve heard outside of the Bible lately. Especially after seeing similar, and worse, problems at the Christian university I attended.
WOW! How encouraging to hear this testimony!?! I hope to have the courage, should I ever face what Dr. Fuller had to face! I trust that God will give me such courage!!!
Thanks to Jon Harris and Dr Fuller. May God bless you in times such as these. Vengeance is the Lord’s. I am done with praying for false teachers, I now pray for deliverance from false teachers.
So thankful for this man - for his courage and his teachings. Is it not ok to say that some people may be subverters? I see it in Rick Warren. I am only a homeschool mom but I have learned and taught logic fallacies and I see so many in these arguments against the truth of the scriptures. Why do we tiptoe around so much? I hope I am not overstepping but it seems obvious that this is the problem - that we tolerate enemies and placate them for some reason ? Can't we just say - "This man is a subverter or a heretic" or whatever needs to be said, say the reasons why - with facts and with the person's own statements, and call it a day?
When I was in grad school in Louisville I attended Sunday school with several Southern students and dated several southern coeds. It was a hotbed of liberalism in the late 70’s and early 80’s. I was from a conservative baptist church and had no idea that there was different beliefs in Baptist’s faith and doctrine. I was under the impression that the liberalism had been reeled in, but apparently we must never let our guard down on issues in our seminaries
This lecturer is a man of principles who prioritizes the truth of the Gospel. What a unique breed in this perilous & compromising times we now live in..
7:00 hmmm... As far as I know the trustees of all the SBC entities are NOT PICKED by the presidents of those institutions. Rather the committee on committees. The president of the sbc appoints people to that committee on committees but no SBC entities pick their own trustees. That would defeat the purpose
I took two classes at SS in 2018/19 and stopped. Just printed Dr. Fullers Pastoral Epistles syllabus and definitely want to get in on the next Greek I class 🙌💪🙏
This is so shocking, and yet, it makes perfect sense that Satan would focus on the seminaries to begin this corruption. Thank God for men who are willing to take a stand for the truth. My father, a layman, was just such a man. I always admired him for standing by the Word no matter what.
Dr. Fuller represents integrity in leadership. How do we identify false teaching and wolves among the sheep? By reading the genuine article, God's Word, and contrasting It to anything else disguised as It. Dr. Fuller is storing up treasures in heaven while people like Mr. Mohler are storing up God's wrath.
Mohler seems to be getting a pass from a lot of conservative Baptists. It’s like they totally ignore his stand with CRT, Russell Moore, and his treatment of fellow Christians. My dad was always skeptical of the establishment and it’s seminaries. He believed a pastor did not have to get his creds from a seminary to preach. In my arrogance of youth I thought he was incorrect and he just didn’t understand. If he was still alive I would apologize to him. The SBC and it’s seminaries are designs of men, that have been corrupted by men, for the glory of men. It is sickening.
Russell Moore was himself in the prophet role in the SBC exposing deep corruption among longtime leaders. Praise God for his relentless pursuit of bringing buried and protected truth to light, to promote repentance in the arena of sexual abuse and high power cover-ups.
It feels as though the walls are closing in around those who stand on God's truth-again. The battle for Truth is always raging, but sometimes it burns hotter than at other times. It is heartbreaking to see the church compromise truth, yet there is comfort in knowing Russel Fuller and others are treading the same path people like Knox did. The Lord will always have His true disciples out and about calling for His sheep, for He will never leave us nor forsake us-those of now, and those of us to come 🙏
Good testimony and God bless you as you "walk by Faith and not by sight." I have seen and experienced remarkable providence of God in the 17 years since my husband died. I believe that we limit what God wants to do in our lives because we are afraid or we are holding on to what we had before! Malachi 3: 10 & 11 is TRUE...God bless you as you stand up for truth and righteousness. BTW - I graduated from Southwestern Baptist Seminary in Fort Worth back in 1976
The most poignant part of this whole story, for me, is not the mention of any particular issue, but the commitment to tell the truth to students at the seminary. It seems to me all other courage flowed from that.
Thank you Jon for posting this. This is so sad. I still have a hard time reconciling Mohler playing both sides of the fence. His latest stand against women pastors at the SBC convention -- is that all a front of conservatism? Dr Fuller is to be commended for his courage and conviction to stand on truth! Thankful for men like Dr Fuller!
Dr. Fuller, I have a MDiv and DMin from SWBTS. The first half of my pastoral ministry was during the Conservative Resurgence of the 80s and 90s when Southern was considered the most liberal SBC seminary. Has Mohler been a closet liberal all along? If not, when did he change? God bless you for standing on the word!
Wow good man - you weren’t a dead man walking - you are a Christian called to a high service- there will be many who hear this and will be encouraged- read Foxes Book of Martyrs and we need you like we needed them - examples of faith
I'm a SBTS grad and had Dr. Fuller for Elementary Hebrew, as I am sure may be true of some other watchers of this video. He is a brilliant man and I am inclined to accept much of what he described. But... I think that the truth of the events are more complicated than how Dr. Fuller describes them. I would like to hear from 2-3 witnesses. I'm trying to write the following respectfully, but there are other criteria to consider that possibly led to his firing. I wish Dr. Fuller well, but I have to mention this: there was a common perception on why he was fired that he has not mentioned in his appearances on this channel, viz., rather low teacher evaluations from the students. Without rancor, but with bluntness, I must say that Dr. Fuller was not an average teacher, nor a just-below-average teacher, but a poor teacher (in a graded environment). His textbooks on Biblical Hebrew are brilliant with an emphasis on morphology and the parsing of verbs that includes "color," among other interesting and unique ways he has of describing things. I have benefited greatly from his two main textbooks. But my opinion is that Dr. Fuller teaches the love of the rules for his own system for teaching Hebrew rather than exhibiting a love for the biblical language itself. At least in his Hebrew courses, he would not explain his grading criteria. It was never clear what needed to be done to earn a certain grade. In addition, it seemed that the grading criteria was also based on the age of the student. Older students would be graded with a bit less rigor than a younger student--perhaps as some kind of recognition that an older student would find learning a language harder. We can debate if that age-based system is right, but at the least this issue devolves into the fact that Dr. Fuller was less than forthright concerning his grading criteria. There was a common sense among the students that his teacher evaluations had low scores. So too, with other professors fired at the same time as he, there was sense among the students that there were other teaching-related reasons for the firings. For instance, one professor let go around the same time as Dr. Fuller was, frankly, quite grumpy (dare I say angry) in class at times owing to his perceived lack of discussion participation. I was a witness to that teacher's grumpiness. Again, I'm trying to be careful with tone, but I am finding it hard to believe Dr. Fuller's forthrightness in the events that happened surrounding his firing when he was so opaque on so basic a right as a student: to know by what criteria we would be graded. I find it hard to believe his assertions until I hear from other witnesses.
Something doesn't line up... All the public statements Al makes aren't anything like described here. Just listen to the Briefing; he's not soft on these issues, he's rock solid, publicly he's clear on the issue. Are you really saying that this is what he's like only in secret?
Agreed. Dr. Mohler’s writing, both “The Briefing” and his World magazine op-ed pieces, is solid. I was at SBTS when Dr. Fuller came, and though I never had him for a course, friends spoke highly of him. The Matthew Hall stuff, though, is accurate, and Dr. Mohler’s termination of Jim Orrick was particularly troubling to me. I’m not sure what all has happened at Southern, but despite the fact that I have an MDiv and PhD from there, I no longer recommend it.
Not a diehard Mohler defender, but a few things simply don’t match other public teaching, comments, articles, etc. that happened at the same time and later by other students, professors, and Mohler himself. Is Dr. Fuller hearing things through a lens of misunderstanding? I wish he would have named the professors who said the things he accused them of saying. It would have been easier to fact-check.
The sad thing is that Mohler, Ligon Duncan, Matt Dever, used to be lecturers at Ligonier conferences. Why? For prestige only? Ligonier is very conservative.
Nl / why is this sad? Those men are and remain exceedingly conservative. They are also Calvinist, which is the commonality at Ligionier. (Their Calvinism might be a place for critique, but not their conservatism).
I use to listen to Al on the panel With MacArthur snd he preached at Grace . I did not know he was a liberal preacher . What happened to Al ? Is any one coming along side of him to help him or he has just fell from Holy Scriptures of the reformers and fell back in to Liberalism.
Mohler isn’t a liberal preacher! Why so binary, as if people have singular on/off switches? There is a spectrum on these things. Liberalism has to do with one’s view of scriptural authority. Mohler is an inerrantist - clearly a conservative. But he may work out his practical theology in ways that pursue racial reconciliation on one hand and stand firmly against the trans community on the other. We need to stop using one-size fits all conclusions regarding the made up label “woke”. God will not judge us for that. He will judge us according to love - for Him and one another.
I seriously did not know Al Mohler was believing and doing all that. I've been trying to find more information concerning the rumors I heard but couldn't find any concrete evidence or anyone really dealing with the issue. I'm so sad and it's so strange to hear that about someone whom you have read and listened to and seen on ligonier panels. Thank you for the truth and clarity.
I'm a bit conflicted on this issue. I listen to the Briefing and it seems to be like he is exposing events where wokeness is involved. Maybe you guys can explain this. I have also heard Mohler make comments that indicate he believes in CRT and he definitely supports the woke professors. Maybe someone can explain.
I, too, listen to the Briefing and am surprised that what I'm hearing here seems to be just the opposite of what I hear Dr. Mohler say on the Briefing.
@@raywillis468 Here's what I'm thinking at the moment...it could be that Mohler and others buy into the CRT part of wokeness but not the gender ideology part. That might explain how he is lucid on those issues and not on others. And, others have suggested he blows with the winds of change in the world. I don't know the answer..that is why I am asking.
Jon, I love your work. I also really appreciate Dr. Fuller and all he’s been through. But please, don’t be clickbaity with your TH-cam video descriptions if they don’t match the content. This was a rehash of what Fuller said three years ago, anything “new” was too vague for anyone’s good. I don’t get why Fuller goes scorched earth and names names. Not guys like Hall, Williams, Hernandez, but the real ones. I’m talking about Gregg Allison, Michael Haykin, Denny Burk, Donald Whitney, Hershel York. The cream of the crop, what draws people to Southern. These guys were the ones who voted for Hall and Williams. Everyone I know who considers going to SBTS is because of the former group not the latter. So why not set your aim on those who enable Mohler’s administration? It’s ridiculous that Fuller is silent on these guys. Why isn’t he talking about David Sills, who I know resisted Mohler’s wokeism (with the vote on Matt Hall and Jonathan Pennington) until he was taken out? Or Mohler’s estranged son who may or may not be gay? Or Mohler’s right hand Randy Stitson, who was an alcoholic and later became Adam Greenway’s right hand at SWBTS? In short, please stop using clickbait titles and descriptions to bring more listeners. I liked the video, but that wasn’t what I signed up for.
Agreed! I live near Louisville, and I know several orthodox Conservatives who are considering attending SBTS because of guys like Burk and Schriener. They are well aware of what Williams and Hall have done, but they think the problem is over now that Hall and Hernandez moved to Biola. This is a problem, and if Fuller has the power to name names, he needs to do that. It’s not like they are going to think less of him now after all he said. Why stay silent? Do you due diligence Jon. Can’t complain about Mohler if you don’t have the receipts.
Sad to see what has been done to SBTS. I attended when Roy Honeycutt was President and graduated right before Mohler came. I knew the SBC takeover was about power and control. Well???
Mohler has disappointed me very much. In my thinking that signing a non disclosure statement from a seminary is against scripture. Bible says to call out the false doctrine and heresy. Non disclosure would prohibit that.
Yes. There’s information in here that many of us heard three years ago but much of this actually is new and packaged more completely. Not to put words in Jon’s mouth or Dr. Fuller’s, but I think part of their point is that both Dr. Mohler and Billy Graham publicly portrayed themselves as being theologically conservative when it’s not actually the case. As I’ve been telling my friends for years, Graham was a liberal but he wasn’t a stupid liberal and he knew who buttered his bread. The same appears to be true of Mohler. Thank you Jon and Dr. Fuller. If I’m off just delete the comment.
For what reason do you say that Billy Graham was theologically liberal? I've never heard him utter a word that I wouldn't regard as being within the pail of orthodox thought.
@@sorenpx I think it's him not explaining the full Gospel. Just believe and you'll be saved. Not explaining any further. He had a lot of time up there with that microphone and on the world stage. Also, near the end of his life, saying that there are many ways to heaven. I had read somewhere that he was an ecumenist but I can't verify that.
Dr. Fuller exemplifies Christian courage, so great to hear a man who is accountable to Christ and not pleasing man!
Do you want a seminary to be an institution of theological education? Or do you want an institution of indoctrination?
Isn't it inspiring to hear someone stand faithfully to do the right thing in the Name of Jesus Christ? He's evidently a happy man to be able to say he did not cave into the fear of man because instead he feared the Lord.
, Glory to God
A really great story of a man standing up for his principles. We need to hear more stories like this these days.
For his faith
Gotta love the 11th commandment...sigh. Thank God for a man of this caliber. And thanks Jon for introducing Dr. Fuller to your audience some time back. God gave him a backbone of titanium "for such a time as this". Lord please give us thousands more who will stand for the truth at all costs.
Amen! We need more like this man throughout Christ's Kingdom!
Dr. fuller is a tremendous example of courage and boldness in standing up for righteousness and the truth of the gospel! I'm so grateful for what he's done in sacrificing his job/livelihood for the sake of exposing the wokeness and the blatant disregard for God's Word at Southern, in the SBC in general, and elsewhere. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Dr. Fuller...and you also, Jon, for being bold and exposing the truth! God's abundant blessings on you both!
Thank you, Jon, for posting this. So very important. Grateful that this man of God stood up for all true believers.
Yes, thank you, Jon!!!!!!💯‼️💯
Praise God for faithful leaders like Russell Fuller.
Thank you. I’ve only been following you for a while and have never been a Baptist, but your channel helps me understand what’s going on with the SBC (and most other denominations as well as many non-denoms).
Memorable line, "just be faithful, and see what the Lord does." Remarkable, encouraging testimony. Thanks.
Dr. Fuller you are a man of courage. Thank you for being an example. I have taken online classes from Dr. Fuller as well as Dr. Rush, they are well worth the time and effort. I am thankful God has led you to do the seminary classes online.
Thank you Jon for posting this. It answers some questions for me. God bless you and Dr. Fuller. God, send America a great revival!
I am so glad to hear Dr. Fuller speak about his experience at Southern Seminary. I have witnessed first hand very similar things happening at Christian Colleges as well. Colleagues who have worked at schools like Biola and Multnomah have experienced the very same course of events. The college president presents as a conservative while packing the board of trustees with liberals and it is not long but for the institution is "fundamentally transformed". The only way to combat this is to expose it boldly and stop sending our money and our children to these institution unless or until they change their ways. These are dark days for the Church but I know the truth of Christ will ultimately prevail.
Any chance you could recommend a Seminary - I'm in the hunt.
This is shocking. I had no idea. Thank the Lord for Dr. Fuller.
Dr. Fuller thank you for speaking out and for being faithful to the Gospel. I appreciate how God is using you. I almost went to Southern, but God made it so that it didn't work out. I'm so grateful. I had no idea what I would have walked into.
Thank you for your faithfulness to the Scriptures!
God bless Dr. Russell Fuller for his faithfulness to the truth of God's Word!!! A real Man of God can't deny who he is when asked to do so; no matter what time he is in!
Dr. Fuller is a hero in this SBC war. I wish he was president.
One of the most encouraging things I’ve heard outside of the Bible lately. Especially after seeing similar, and worse, problems at the Christian university I attended.
God is blessing this man and his stand for the truth. Shame on SS.
WOW! How encouraging to hear this testimony!?! I hope to have the courage, should I ever face what Dr. Fuller had to face! I trust that God will give me such courage!!!
Thank you, Dr. Fuller! You have encouraged me more than you know. Thank you for refusing to be the silent majority and your tremendous sacrifice!
Lovely man of God.
I was blessed, inspired to take a class.
Thank you Jon
God bless you Dr. Fuller and Jon Harris. SBC and Al Mohler are COMPROMISED
Thanks to Jon Harris and Dr Fuller. May God bless you in times such as these. Vengeance is the Lord’s. I am done with praying for false teachers, I now pray for deliverance from false teachers.
Thank you for this! ❤
Good message, thank you for your faithfulness. 🙏
"Do you love your job more than the truth of the gospel?" - Russell Fuller
This is so great to hear. I'm excited to, Lord willing, be able to sign up for a class in the spring.
Dr. Fuller, i had your ot survey, you were my hero then, you are my hero now. God bless you, sir, and keep loving and telling the truth.
AMEN! What a wonderful video Jon! Thank You Jesus for the example of the FAITHFUL. :D
So thankful for this man - for his courage and his teachings. Is it not ok to say that some people may be subverters? I see it in Rick Warren. I am only a homeschool mom but I have learned and taught logic fallacies and I see so many in these arguments against the truth of the scriptures. Why do we tiptoe around so much? I hope I am not overstepping but it seems obvious that this is the problem - that we tolerate enemies and placate them for some reason ? Can't we just say - "This man is a subverter or a heretic" or whatever needs to be said, say the reasons why - with facts and with the person's own statements, and call it a day?
When I was in grad school in Louisville I attended Sunday school with several Southern students and dated several southern coeds. It was a hotbed of liberalism in the late 70’s and early 80’s. I was from a conservative baptist church and had no idea that there was different beliefs in Baptist’s faith and doctrine. I was under the impression that the liberalism had been reeled in, but apparently we must never let our guard down on issues in our seminaries
Wow, I have thought so highly of Dr. Mohler for so long. I’m really confused.
This lecturer is a man of principles who prioritizes the truth of the Gospel. What a unique breed in this perilous & compromising times we now live in..
7:00 hmmm... As far as I know the trustees of all the SBC entities are NOT PICKED by the presidents of those institutions. Rather the committee on committees.
The president of the sbc appoints people to that committee on committees but no SBC entities pick their own trustees. That would defeat the purpose
It was good to hear Dr. Fuller speak about his experience at Southern Seminary. A great story for a man standing up for his principles.
Thank you for being open and honest and defending the Word of God.
It was encouraging to hear this man give testimony of his walk by faith. I would also say, the response to Warren from Al Mohler was hopeful.
I took two classes at SS in 2018/19 and stopped. Just printed Dr. Fullers Pastoral Epistles syllabus and definitely want to get in on the next Greek I class 🙌💪🙏
Great testimony to hear. Glory be to God alone 🙏
Praise God for the remnant that remains faithful during this time of great apostasy.
This is so shocking, and yet, it makes perfect sense that Satan would focus on the seminaries to begin this corruption. Thank God for men who are willing to take a stand for the truth. My father, a layman, was just such a man. I always admired him for standing by the Word no matter what.
Praise be to God for this faithful servants! I am so disappointed in Albert Mohler. We should all pray for him, that he will repent.
There’s much more to know about this before drawing any conclusions. There’s always a context.
Dr. Fuller represents integrity in leadership. How do we identify false teaching and wolves among the sheep? By reading the genuine article, God's Word, and contrasting It to anything else disguised as It. Dr. Fuller is storing up treasures in heaven while people like Mr. Mohler are storing up God's wrath.
Mohler seems to be getting a pass from a lot of conservative Baptists. It’s like they totally ignore his stand with CRT, Russell Moore, and his treatment of fellow Christians.
My dad was always skeptical of the establishment and it’s seminaries. He believed a pastor did not have to get his creds from a seminary to preach. In my arrogance of youth I thought he was incorrect and he just didn’t understand. If he was still alive I would apologize to him. The SBC and it’s seminaries are designs of men, that have been corrupted by men, for the glory of men. It is sickening.
Russell Moore was himself in the prophet role in the SBC exposing deep corruption among longtime leaders. Praise God for his relentless pursuit of bringing buried and protected truth to light, to promote repentance in the arena of sexual abuse and high power cover-ups.
It feels as though the walls are closing in around those who stand on God's truth-again. The battle for Truth is always raging, but sometimes it burns hotter than at other times. It is heartbreaking to see the church compromise truth, yet there is comfort in knowing Russel Fuller and others are treading the same path people like Knox did. The Lord will always have His true disciples out and about calling for His sheep, for He will never leave us nor forsake us-those of now, and those of us to come 🙏
Amen. Seminaries have gone woke. The Convention is struggling as a result. I appreciate Dr. Fuller making a stand.
Good testimony and God bless you as you "walk by Faith and not by sight." I have seen and experienced remarkable providence of God in the 17 years since my husband died. I believe that we limit what God wants to do in our lives because we are afraid or we are holding on to what we had before! Malachi 3: 10 & 11 is TRUE...God bless you as you stand up for truth and righteousness.
BTW - I graduated from Southwestern Baptist Seminary in Fort Worth back in 1976
The most poignant part of this whole story, for me, is not the mention of any particular issue, but the commitment to tell the truth to students at the seminary. It seems to me all other courage flowed from that.
Thank you Jon for posting this. This is so sad. I still have a hard time reconciling Mohler playing both sides of the fence. His latest stand against women pastors at the SBC convention -- is that all a front of conservatism? Dr Fuller is to be commended for his courage and conviction to stand on truth! Thankful for men like Dr Fuller!
Thank you for posting this testimony.
I am just broken to hear this. I am a 2002 graduate of SBTS; and had no idea of this. Thank you, Dr. Fuller for sharing this information.
Dr Fuller has become one of my favorites.
Dr. Fuller, I have a MDiv and DMin from SWBTS.
The first half of my pastoral ministry was during the Conservative Resurgence of the 80s and 90s when Southern was considered the most liberal SBC seminary. Has Mohler been a closet liberal all along? If not, when did he change? God bless you for standing on the word!
Thanks Dr. FULLER!
When a brother stands up like this he will be punished. May God richly bless this brother while he is rightly dividing the word of truth!
I had no idea that this was happening, and I have lived near this seminary all my life. It is heartbreaking.
This video needs to go viral among Southern Baptists. Dr Mohler's behavior is inexcusable. He has disqualified himself from ever being SBC president.
Where is Tom Nettles on this?
Wow good man - you weren’t a dead man walking - you are a Christian called to a high service- there will be many who hear this and will be encouraged- read Foxes Book of Martyrs and we need you like we needed them - examples of faith
Hi Russell thank you for standing up for God
Met Dr Fuller at the men's conference in NY. An Israelite indeed,
Thanks for speaking out
Love this!
I just flew in and out of Sioux City Iowa last weekend!
Great job brother
You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you FREE !!!!!
Eye opening! Every believer must hear this!
I don’t understand how this could be true about Dr. Mohler and his association with Ligonier and R. C. Sproul. Anybody help me?
I have the same thought. I think I need some corroboration.
Wow ! Thank you !
This is a man of God if that means anything in the world today, but heaven is watching🙏🏻
I'm a SBTS grad and had Dr. Fuller for Elementary Hebrew, as I am sure may be true of some other watchers of this video. He is a brilliant man and I am inclined to accept much of what he described. But... I think that the truth of the events are more complicated than how Dr. Fuller describes them. I would like to hear from 2-3 witnesses. I'm trying to write the following respectfully, but there are other criteria to consider that possibly led to his firing.
I wish Dr. Fuller well, but I have to mention this: there was a common perception on why he was fired that he has not mentioned in his appearances on this channel, viz., rather low teacher evaluations from the students. Without rancor, but with bluntness, I must say that Dr. Fuller was not an average teacher, nor a just-below-average teacher, but a poor teacher (in a graded environment). His textbooks on Biblical Hebrew are brilliant with an emphasis on morphology and the parsing of verbs that includes "color," among other interesting and unique ways he has of describing things. I have benefited greatly from his two main textbooks. But my opinion is that Dr. Fuller teaches the love of the rules for his own system for teaching Hebrew rather than exhibiting a love for the biblical language itself. At least in his Hebrew courses, he would not explain his grading criteria. It was never clear what needed to be done to earn a certain grade. In addition, it seemed that the grading criteria was also based on the age of the student. Older students would be graded with a bit less rigor than a younger student--perhaps as some kind of recognition that an older student would find learning a language harder. We can debate if that age-based system is right, but at the least this issue devolves into the fact that Dr. Fuller was less than forthright concerning his grading criteria. There was a common sense among the students that his teacher evaluations had low scores. So too, with other professors fired at the same time as he, there was sense among the students that there were other teaching-related reasons for the firings. For instance, one professor let go around the same time as Dr. Fuller was, frankly, quite grumpy (dare I say angry) in class at times owing to his perceived lack of discussion participation. I was a witness to that teacher's grumpiness.
Again, I'm trying to be careful with tone, but I am finding it hard to believe Dr. Fuller's forthrightness in the events that happened surrounding his firing when he was so opaque on so basic a right as a student: to know by what criteria we would be graded. I find it hard to believe his assertions until I hear from other witnesses.
You're anidiot. He wasn't fired because of his teaching evaluations.
Something doesn't line up... All the public statements Al makes aren't anything like described here. Just listen to the Briefing; he's not soft on these issues, he's rock solid, publicly he's clear on the issue. Are you really saying that this is what he's like only in secret?
Agreed. Dr. Mohler’s writing, both “The Briefing” and his World magazine op-ed pieces, is solid. I was at SBTS when Dr. Fuller came, and though I never had him for a course, friends spoke highly of him. The Matthew Hall stuff, though, is accurate, and Dr. Mohler’s termination of Jim Orrick was particularly troubling to me. I’m not sure what all has happened at Southern, but despite the fact that I have an MDiv and PhD from there, I no longer recommend it.
Not a diehard Mohler defender, but a few things simply don’t match other public teaching, comments, articles, etc. that happened at the same time and later by other students, professors, and Mohler himself. Is Dr. Fuller hearing things through a lens of misunderstanding? I wish he would have named the professors who said the things he accused them of saying. It would have been easier to fact-check.
It is good to hear someone in the church to stand up for what the Scripture says.
Dr. Fuller is brave perosn emboldened by Faith in God !
Bless you brother for standing firm on the Gospel of our Lord & Savior Jesus Christ!
The sad thing is that Mohler, Ligon Duncan, Matt Dever, used to be lecturers at Ligonier conferences. Why? For prestige only? Ligonier is very conservative.
Nl / why is this sad? Those men are and remain exceedingly conservative. They are also Calvinist, which is the commonality at Ligionier. (Their Calvinism might be a place for critique, but not their conservatism).
John Wesley gave a sermon at Christ Church that is another bold statement of regarding Biblical Truth. Blessings
Wow I'm so proud of you. God will open doors for you.
Psalm 32:8
What seminaries would you promote/encourage people to go?
Who can we trust to be truthful?
I use to listen to Al on the panel
With MacArthur snd he preached at Grace . I did not know he was a liberal preacher . What happened to Al ? Is any one coming along side of him to help him or he has just fell from Holy Scriptures of the reformers and fell back in to
Liberalism.
Mohler isn’t a liberal preacher! Why so binary, as if people have singular on/off switches? There is a spectrum on these things.
Liberalism has to do with one’s view of scriptural authority. Mohler is an inerrantist - clearly a conservative. But he may work out his practical theology in ways that pursue racial reconciliation on one hand and stand firmly against the trans community on the other. We need to stop using one-size fits all conclusions regarding the made up label “woke”. God will not judge us for that. He will judge us according to love - for Him and one another.
I seriously did not know Al Mohler was believing and doing all that. I've been trying to find more information concerning the rumors I heard but couldn't find any concrete evidence or anyone really dealing with the issue. I'm so sad and it's so strange to hear that about someone whom you have read and listened to and seen on ligonier panels. Thank you for the truth and clarity.
Thank God for the faithfulness of His saints.
God bless Dr. Fuller for not compromising. We need more men like him.
I'm a bit conflicted on this issue. I listen to the Briefing and it seems to be like he is exposing events where wokeness is involved. Maybe you guys can explain this. I have also heard Mohler make comments that indicate he believes in CRT and he definitely supports the woke professors. Maybe someone can explain.
I, too, listen to the Briefing and am surprised that what I'm hearing here seems to be just the opposite of what I hear Dr. Mohler say on the Briefing.
@@raywillis468 Here's what I'm thinking at the moment...it could be that Mohler and others buy into the CRT part of wokeness but not the gender ideology part. That might explain how he is lucid on those issues and not on others. And, others have suggested he blows with the winds of change in the world. I don't know the answer..that is why I am asking.
Some people don't have a lot of principles. They can play different parts depending on where they are.
Jon, I love your work. I also really appreciate Dr. Fuller and all he’s been through. But please, don’t be clickbaity with your TH-cam video descriptions if they don’t match the content. This was a rehash of what Fuller said three years ago, anything “new” was too vague for anyone’s good.
I don’t get why Fuller goes scorched earth and names names. Not guys like Hall, Williams, Hernandez, but the real ones. I’m talking about Gregg Allison, Michael Haykin, Denny Burk, Donald Whitney, Hershel York. The cream of the crop, what draws people to Southern. These guys were the ones who voted for Hall and Williams. Everyone I know who considers going to SBTS is because of the former group not the latter. So why not set your aim on those who enable Mohler’s administration?
It’s ridiculous that Fuller is silent on these guys. Why isn’t he talking about David Sills, who I know resisted Mohler’s wokeism (with the vote on Matt Hall and Jonathan Pennington) until he was taken out? Or Mohler’s estranged son who may or may not be gay? Or Mohler’s right hand Randy Stitson, who was an alcoholic and later became Adam Greenway’s right hand at SWBTS?
In short, please stop using clickbait titles and descriptions to bring more listeners. I liked the video, but that wasn’t what I signed up for.
Agreed! I live near Louisville, and I know several orthodox Conservatives who are considering attending SBTS because of guys like Burk and Schriener. They are well aware of what Williams and Hall have done, but they think the problem is over now that Hall and Hernandez moved to Biola. This is a problem, and if Fuller has the power to name names, he needs to do that. It’s not like they are going to think less of him now after all he said. Why stay silent?
Do you due diligence Jon. Can’t complain about Mohler if you don’t have the receipts.
If you know so much create a video and you set the record straight. You are blaming Russell Fuller but have you brought all you evidence forward?
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Fuller: Short in stature, but a giant in character!
Sad to see what has been done to SBTS. I attended when Roy Honeycutt was President and graduated right before Mohler came. I knew the SBC takeover was about power and control. Well???
Im amazed. I heard many of Mohler's sermons and commentaries and he seemed very conservative. I think he even spoke at RC Sproul conferences
Clyde- Mohler IS very conservative.
@@chaddonal4331 yes, I thought so, but this video says he's liberal 😯
WOW! Even in the house of God, the wolves are alive and well from within, wolves in sheep's clothing. Boycott these so-called Christian colleges.
Dr. Russell Fuller appears to be a really nice man and a astute scholar. RLA
Mohler has disappointed me very much. In my thinking that signing a non disclosure statement from a seminary is against scripture. Bible says to call out the false doctrine and heresy. Non disclosure would prohibit that.
Teaching more students now than he ever did at Southern? That sounds to me like the Lord's will being done !
Wow!!!! Stay iron Doc Fuller!
I still have this question regarding Al Mohler - where is his son? I think the reason he won’t answer maybe hitting close to home.
Corrupt leaders point me in desperation to pursue my Lord and His Church. There is no where else to turn.
God said, " I do not Change", man said, "I change with the wind". I will Follow God. Seminary Schools Equal Cemetery Schools
Yes. There’s information in here that many of us heard three years ago but much of this actually is new and packaged more completely. Not to put words in Jon’s mouth or Dr. Fuller’s, but I think part of their point is that both Dr. Mohler and Billy Graham publicly portrayed themselves as being theologically conservative when it’s not actually the case. As I’ve been telling my friends for years, Graham was a liberal but he wasn’t a stupid liberal and he knew who buttered his bread. The same appears to be true of Mohler. Thank you Jon and Dr. Fuller. If I’m off just delete the comment.
For what reason do you say that Billy Graham was theologically liberal? I've never heard him utter a word that I wouldn't regard as being within the pail of orthodox thought.
@@sorenpx I think it's him not explaining the full Gospel. Just believe and you'll be saved. Not explaining any further. He had a lot of time up there with that microphone and on the world stage. Also, near the end of his life, saying that there are many ways to heaven. I had read somewhere that he was an ecumenist but I can't verify that.
@@Sara-hy1ru Is it your understanding that you have to do more than have faith? Like, have faith and work really hard and hope God lets you in?
@@sorenpx Is it fine with you that he said there are many ways to heaven?
@@Sara-hy1ru I'm dealing with one issue at a time. Do you feel that salvation is not through faith alone?
Randy Stinson was a joke. I'm embarrassed we went to Southeastern together.
They meant it for evil but God meant it good