My airbrush struggles with this stuff... IWATA NEO 0.3mm - splatters everywhere. I have changed my technique, deep cleaned the airbrush several times. I use Vallejo black prime no issues for years - White primer is a problem.
I picked some of this up yesterday. Can't get it to work right. Thinned, not thinned, different psi, 0.2 or 0.4 needle, different spray distances, it's always either too splotchy or just runs all over the model. Pretty new to airbrushing and I'll keep experimenting; this has just been a nightmare.
Nice tutorial! Wow, straight from the bottle!? I've heard a lot of good things about Vallejo but seeing this here is a first for me. I usually have to thin all the other primers. Can you do this with any airbrush? I have a Paashe VL dual action and an Iwata Madea Eclipse.
Just worked with the Tamiya surface primer, but I am not so happy about the result. I find it difficult to dispense with the aerosol. I see that you use that primer from Vallejo in your airbruch, I think this is better to dose and you use less primer and you have more control over your work, I will try it too, Thanks for your video tutorial.
What Air Pressure do you run when you are spraying the primers? I am having big clogging issues with my Infinity and evolution with the black primer from vallejo
At first glance on your intro... I literally thought that was a huge jug of marijuana. Then I realised it's actually trees and shrubs for scenery modeling. Goes to show how much paraphernalia there is on TH-cam. I literally think everything is weed. Lol!
Have you tried MinWax acrylic polyurethane as a primer. You can add any color you want. Plus, you can use it as a clearcoat. It comes in gloss, semi gloss, and matt. It shoots and lays down great. For the price per volume it's much cheaper than any brand name acrylic primer.
I have had this problem once and it was a particular kit, that Vallejo Primer just was not getting on with. I use Vallejo primer a lot, so I am very comfortable with applying it. Switched to another brand to prime that model. So if we look past it just might be a problem like I had, the main issue comes from thinning it. That definitely weakens it and the bond is not as good to the model. The other issue for sanding, is not allowing enough time to cure before trying to sand it and using a course grit. I spray the primer without thinning and I won't sand it until the primer has had at least 24 hours to cure. I use fairly mild grits which don't seem to tear the primer. Hope that helps Dan.
Hey Models Workshop, I have a question. Does Vallejo primer have to be combined with Vallejo airbrush thinner to run smoothly without getting clogged? I'm using an Iwata Revolution airbrush, and the primer by itself seems to be a bit too thick. It keeps getting clogged. Any tips? Thanks!!
Great. I did notice that water loosens it up, but I'm having problems figuring out the ratio so the primer doesn't splatter. Do you know the ratio of water to primer? Thanks.
jammerman28 that's all about experimentation. If you're getting splatter either turn down your air pressure, don't pull back on the trigger as much, or don't be so close on the piece. I run high pressure but don't open the trigger all the way and spraying about 8 inches away.
Hello! Other than its dedicated brand cleaner, what easy-to-find-at-home-cheap-product can I use to clean the airbrush? I mean something that doesn´t produce any goo.
hello, great video. will this primer work on brass? I'm a model railroader and want to a brass locomotive and I bought some of this primer hoping it would work.
That is very high. It is possible the primer was drying on the tip of the airbrush. I use the same primer and spray through a .35 needle, the same size as your at around 22-25 PSI. Dan
Thank you so much! I have just tested your technique directly in the cup and at 40 psi without any issue! It works really well!
My airbrush struggles with this stuff... IWATA NEO 0.3mm - splatters everywhere. I have changed my technique, deep cleaned the airbrush several times. I use Vallejo black prime no issues for years - White primer is a problem.
Wow .15 is really small for primer spraying! May I know what pressure r u using? Cheers!
can even use it for pre shading or even as a Base coat if doing a matte finish this stuff is great even with flow improver thrown in I found
I picked some of this up yesterday. Can't get it to work right. Thinned, not thinned, different psi, 0.2 or 0.4 needle, different spray distances, it's always either too splotchy or just runs all over the model. Pretty new to airbrushing and I'll keep experimenting; this has just been a nightmare.
I snagged me some of this, i'll give it a try, thanks for the info
Nice tutorial! Wow, straight from the bottle!? I've heard a lot of good things about Vallejo but seeing this here is a first for me. I usually have to thin all the other primers. Can you do this with any airbrush? I have a Paashe VL dual action and an Iwata Madea Eclipse.
***** Thanks for the reply! I'll definitely have to give this a go.
Just worked with the Tamiya surface primer, but I am not so happy about the result. I find it difficult to dispense with the aerosol. I see that you use that primer from Vallejo in your airbruch, I think this is better to dose and you use less primer and you have more control over your work, I will try it too, Thanks for your video tutorial.
Awesome video. :)
straight off 😱
what about quick tip/needle drying???
what pressure did you use?
I washed the body and parts in dawn like I do all the time .
What Air Pressure do you run when you are spraying the primers?
I am having big clogging issues with my Infinity and evolution with the black primer from vallejo
NZ Vengeance normally 40 psi
@@ModelsWorkshop I got problem with the Iwata-CM-B at 15psi... i will try to adjust to 40 tonight and try.
@@charlottekuang2569
Did it work out for you?
Do you have to do sanding?
Ok I will try that thanks
At first glance on your intro... I literally thought that was a huge jug of marijuana. Then I realised it's actually trees and shrubs for scenery modeling. Goes to show how much paraphernalia there is on TH-cam. I literally think everything is weed. Lol!
Have you tried MinWax acrylic polyurethane as a primer. You can add any color you want. Plus, you can use it as a clearcoat. It comes in gloss, semi gloss, and matt. It shoots and lays down great. For the price per volume it's much cheaper than any brand name acrylic primer.
Does it produces outgassing at 37 degree celcius?
So no thinning at all? I ve had problems with vallejo air neat but im also new to this. Great videos by the way.
can you do it with a .5 mm needle
How do you sand the primer it comes off in sheets
I have had this problem once and it was a particular kit, that Vallejo Primer just was not getting on with. I use Vallejo primer a lot, so I am very comfortable with applying it. Switched to another brand to prime that model. So if we look past it just might be a problem like I had, the main issue comes from thinning it. That definitely weakens it and the bond is not as good to the model. The other issue for sanding, is not allowing enough time to cure before trying to sand it and using a course grit. I spray the primer without thinning and I won't sand it until the primer has had at least 24 hours to cure. I use fairly mild grits which don't seem to tear the primer. Hope that helps Dan.
Hey Models Workshop, I have a question. Does Vallejo primer have to be combined with Vallejo airbrush thinner to run smoothly without getting clogged? I'm using an Iwata Revolution airbrush, and the primer by itself seems to be a bit too thick. It keeps getting clogged. Any tips? Thanks!!
jammerman28 I never had any problem with it going through my airbrush. If it's to thick would just add a little water.
Great. I did notice that water loosens it up, but I'm having problems figuring out the ratio so the primer doesn't splatter. Do you know the ratio of water to primer? Thanks.
jammerman28 that's all about experimentation. If you're getting splatter either turn down your air pressure, don't pull back on the trigger as much, or don't be so close on the piece. I run high pressure but don't open the trigger all the way and spraying about 8 inches away.
What Psi are you spraying at?
hi .first thanks for the video .i wonder if i can use surface acrylic paint without primer .its will work or have to spry primer first?
***** thank you for replay .
Hello! Other than its dedicated brand cleaner, what easy-to-find-at-home-cheap-product can I use to clean the airbrush? I mean something that doesn´t produce any goo.
Window cleaner without ammonia. Rubbing alcohol.
Just looked in another answer and apparently it was 40psi.
@@ModelsWorkshop Thanks, Man!
Is this a specific product for airbrush use or are you just using their normal acrylic surface primer through your airbrush?
It's their regular primer through an airbrush :)
Hello there! Can this primer be used instead of white colour on the model?
Yes, you can paint with primers if you wish.
Would you suggest priming model kits before painting...o like building gundam kits...
110%! The Primer gives something the paint to hold on to.
@@ModelsWorkshop oh ok thanks for the response
I used this and it scratches off like rubber, doesn't stick.
hello, great video. will this primer work on brass? I'm a model railroader and want to a brass locomotive and I bought some of this primer hoping it would work.
Yep, just let it cure overnight and it will be on their good.
+Models Workshop
thanks for the reply
+James Kidd anytime!
Just starting to airbrush my models what is a good airbrush to start with
Rampage3000m check out the reply I left on the other video. :)
I tried putting the black surface primer through the iwata neo , it didn't work , how much should I thin?
Odd, I didn't have thin at all and it went on through a .15mm, the NEO is a .35mm.
I was running it at 45 to 50 psi
That is very high. It is possible the primer was drying on the tip of the airbrush. I use the same primer and spray through a .35 needle, the same size as your at around 22-25 PSI. Dan
Can I ask what was the air pressure that you were using thanks
Typically 25 to 30psi
will the paint scratch after you paint over the primer..
Don't forget to top coat after you paint. That's the protective sealant
You have any issues with ventilation or fumes with this primer?
I personally like the smell of it but I would use a mask at the least.
It dryer four days
its 0.4mm needle?
Aldhy Retika .15mm Infinity
Models Workshop awesome. how can it not clogged? high psi?
Aldhy Retika the primer is actually fairly thin. Stynelrez didn't have much of an issue either.
Seriously? An airbrush tutorial with no mention of the pressure you're using...
ikothsowe with the Infinity with the .15mm needle nozzle I was spraying at 40psi. With my Badger 105 I spray at 30psi.
Sorry about that.
Much obliged!
@E Lowe Seriously ? another Asshole who thinks he can say whatever he wants ? a self proclaimed internet police !
would a 0.35mm needle be to small for this?
The needle I used was a .15mm, a .35mm should work great.
@@ModelsWorkshop but at which pressure? bcs you didn‘t add any thinner...
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17$ for 200ml
Do you need an acrylic thinner with it?
I didn't, if anything needed a bit of thinning I would add a drop of water.