@@Anthonypython my laptop had a fan failure, it gave BIOS error message and automatically shutdown in some 10-15 seconds, but it also had an option to ignore it and take the risk
10:15 "we are still under 75 degrees" "what the hell?" it's surprising what you could achieve with an actual heat sink making actual contact with the cpu...
That actually fixes the biggest dealbreaker that pushed me back from the Macbook Air. Instead of grinding the heatsink like they did, I would jsut remove it and the heat insulator and put a bunch of Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut thermal pads there to let it dissipate its heat to the whole bottom. I don't care if it gets hot in my lap or not, we're not running synthetic benchmarks all the time on our laptops anyway. When doing normal stuff it shouldn't be a problem.
@@utubekullanicisi yeah, like, how many people are video editing on their lap or something? people do cpu intensive stuff on laptops on tables. Which apple should know, since it seems to think only pros can justify buying a desktop.
@@utubekullanicisi That is not how thermodynamics work. There is a hard limit on how much you can stack something like cabonaut thermal pads.The CPU will die before the pads can pull of the heat away.
@@sahin8780 are you just now picking up on this? Because remember when the IPhone 4 came out and you could block the antenna by holding it in the most comfortable way you would hold a phone and Apple's response was "LOL. Just don't hold it there".
@J Thorsson i"d rather call their looks dull to the point of being easy to tune out the reason they are ahead in that category is that there isn"t much else one can reduce about the look to make it even more forgetable
"what if apple is sandbagging the MacBooks so that when they introduce the arm based MacBooks it'll be at half the temperature" Doesn't sound too far off what they would do considering that fact that they severely underclocked the Apple II GS to make the Macintosh look good
@@imho4990 what are u talking about the processor has wayyy better performance potential - the CPU is power limited. Even if you ignore the fact that its power limited, they improved performance by 14% through better cooling. Soo how exactly did apple do it right???
@@imho4990 it does have more room for improvement but it is limited because the computer thinks its still working with the bad cooling setup but it still gets a 14% improvement despite that
@@luisramos3639 with in there class, they get shat on by gaming laptop even ones around the same price(gpus are a bitch). But AMD is fucking everyone up so I doesn't really matter
@@killerkoalas3573 sandbagging implies YOU are hiding performance. Intel isn't hiding performance... If anything, they're running their chips redline because they're desperate to show they have performance. It's APPLE sandbagging the cpu by forcing it to thermal throttle way early.
@@ferna182 intel lied they would be on 7nm in 2016 which never happened. This is both intels fault for not being able to reliever the chip and apples fault for not changing the design.
No, in fact Louis has fixed nothing. He is just a small time repair shop with a very big mouth. He knows nothing about designing actual products, of he did then he would realize that every time you change one item to avoid one issue that you then create three new problems.
@@Billy123bobzzz Wow wow wow, what the actual f..reak ? Can you please explain me how changing a short circuited capacitor with another capacitor with the same (if not better) specs is not fixing and is creating three new problems big brain ? Oh wait, you'll not answer I guess, like all double digit IQ people on the internet.
Or why its a good idea to out a fuse stronger than the other components, or why the authorized repair shops wont recover data and state its impossible while pushing a new device for you to buy or lie that something cant be fixed and push you a new device. Louis is certainly no hardware engineer but i dont see he running his mouth with nonsense, he actually argues with reason.
Okay... like... you're freaking me out with you're "Conspiracy Theory" concerning the Intel vs ARM chips because I could absolutely see Apple pulling something like that.
@@MrMaddog2004subscribe That Apple was intentionally nerfing their performance with Intel chips so that when they make the switch to ARM , the performance with ARM will look better by comparison.
I mean apple is notrious for slowing down older iPhones via software updates so people would be forced to buy a new phone, so i dont think this is too far fetched.
@@MsMonster128 they don't need to be faster than ryzen, just themselves. Because they know the people that buy these laptops are pretty ignorant of anything else
Friend used some old small thinkpad back in 2013. When he was playing CK2, at 5fps, the laptop would heat up whole 4x1m desk. :D It was fun/mildyinteresting. We were more baffled by him playing CK2 for days and days at that fps count :D
yeah my 2015 Razer Blade killed itself by heat, send it for repairs, and then when I got it back immediately started turning off during gaming because it was drawing too much power. They sent me the power brick for the bigger model.
You really don't have to say that, just skip and be silent about it, do you want him to lose those sponsorship? (I am not sure if it actually can effect it, if not then go ahead and rhyme as much as you want)
7:40 well that makes sense now. When they announced Apple Silicon MacBook Air, they can say how much better it is compared to Intel MacBook Air with the same design.
Linus: "Man I really wanted to post some crazy performance numbers today" If you listen hard enough you can hear Tim Apple laughing in his best Darth Vader impression.
Linus just makes me happy. I could literally watch him do anything and it’d make my day a lot brighter. Linus, if you read this, as one human to another, thanks for putting in all your blood, sweat and teraflops into your work. Jokes aside, all of us fans love you so much and you have helped out so many over the years. Thank you and your team for all you do!
Yt reviewers: "Apple have excellent craftsmanship, premium build quality, excellent design." Macbook cooler: "Ha! I'm glad they can't see me from the outside"
@@shiskeyoffles his audience is mouth breathing pc gamer virgins so he has to pretend he hates apple even though he literally had an Apple Watch and a hidden iPhone somewhere lol.
Snapdragon always 60'c target. Years ahead in efficiency compared to Allwinner and Mediatek. AMlogic 1 year behind. 7nm, with devs who target ARM (RISC) 1st? Own future. Nintendo knew for years, a dream that requires change and effort. DS/3DS/Switch. They cared and gave focus for today. They finally got Nvidia on board and owned us all (-1). What will they do next, for us all. We can but dream and avoid an Apple, unless it is ripe, for a future of all humans, where £ < effort worth everyones time and future. LTTstore.com/love
@@jlu Marketing and social status goods bro. There is plenty of people out there who will shell out 2000+ USD every month to prove they are modern and high tech even if the performance is subpar. Developing countries nouveau riche are especially good targets for that style of marketing.
alstonmiller212 it was only called the MacBook because they wanted to sell the rest of the old airs, it has nothing to do with the old MacBooks it “succeeded.” It was a 12” MacBook Air. Also no one asked.....
@@sabni8668 not a chip on his shoulder, Apple for 7 ish years has produced hilariously bad garbage, and he has to deal with their bullshit defective boards every day. Apple throws out basic engineering and design standards not even to be cheap but out of sheer incompetence. Fuses that are supposed to protect components placed further along the power lines than the components they protect.
@@sabni8668 Also has easily one of the least tech savvy consumer-bases out of any tech company in the world, wonder where all that customer satisfaction comes from?
There is such a thing a supercooled water (or at least water that has been modified a bit to stay liquid at and below its normal freezing point). If you add salt, that lowers the freezing point. add in crushed ice, and you get water significantly colder than it would normally freeze at. This is, by the way, how the 0 degree point on the Fahrenheit scale was determined. All that said, though, I think Linus just meant really cold water.
7:40 "Theres no reason for it!" Oh, theres a reason for it. They want premature failures so their customers go out and pay for their ridiculous repair prices and or just buy a whole new system.
6:10, wouldnt it have been waaay safer to add a copper shim? Also Alex would make the best surgeon. Patient: "I'm really nervous" Alex: "You and me both" 😂
Well putting a shim between the die and the heat sink would be necessary so if that is too thick it could still destroy the die and would be way less effective. The drill he uses is very old but very well adjustable if you know what you're doing. It is in no way comparable to just winging it with a cordless drill.
Great content bois, this is exactly the sort of rogue engineering stuff I was hoping we'd get with Alex on the team now that he's had some time to get accustomed to all those fancy new tools and machinery
4:20 Linus, there is an explanation for the fan placement that nobody is talking about. Moving the fan such that the output vent was directly in front of the heatsink wouldn't make a difference, because it's still moving the same amount of air. Linus, this is effectively a "pull" configuration over the heatsink, just as you'd see on a radiator. When the bottom lid is closed, the fan pushing air out of the left hand side(when it's upside down) creates negative pressure inside, drawing air in from the right hand side, over the heatsink. You can see that the only other gap in the casing for air to come in is on the other side of the heatsink. The reason your added fan made such a difference has nothing to do with the location of the fan; it's just because it's a much bigger/faster fan with more airflow. A lot of people are mocking their engineering about not knowing where to put the fan, but that's not the issue. The issue is simply the low airflow of the fan in general, and the puny heatsink with low surface area. The bad cooling was not the result of bad engineers not understanding fan placement, it was the result of design decisions to have a small fan and heatsink.
Well, there are still losses coming from the fan being somewhere else. I wonder how much it is.. But that wasn't the fix was it though? It was fixing the heatsink by milling?
@@rkan2 Yeah, I believe their post-milling test wasn't with the large fan, so having the heatsink fit snugly was actually more of an improvement on its own
Having the fan far away is typically fine, but there's no ducking so air can flow anywhere inside the chassis. Not that it will help any if you air gap the die.....why not just remove the heatsinc entirely? It'd probably perform better
I think Apple has actually a reason for this. You see when apple announced their arm chips they said it runs 50% faster right? Well if you have a thermal throttling Intel macbook and compare it to a nicely cooked arm chip macbook then they are right.
Alternative conspiracy theory: they thought they'd be already getting their own custom ARM chips a bit earlier, and had to rush a heatsink redesign for Intel
It doesn't really matter what the case may be because it is part of a trend of apple to package something that has some inherent design flaws but looks stunning to lay people.
Linus' bullshit conspiracy theory is that Apple is sandbagging the Macs. We all knew Apple was going to their own silicon, the fact that they announced it today does not prove Linus' bullshit theory in any way, shape or form. Apple did a very good job of explaining why they're going to their own silicon, watch the keynote.
@@yurifaggu You can bruh as much as you want, still doesn't prove jack shit. Where is the actual proof that Apple is sandbagging Intel Macs? Still waiting to see it, bruh
how is that confirming his theory, when he based the theory on the fact that Apple wants to replace their Intel chips. That's what his idea stemmed from. What's this circular shit
No, in fact Louis has fixed nothing. He is just a small time repair shop with a very big mouth. He knows nothing about designing actual products, of he did then he would realize that every time you change one item to avoid one issue that you then create three new problems.
@@Billy123bobzzz I mean, that goes beyond the point of my comment, but I'm sure he would love to drill holes through customer boards like LTT drilled at that heatsink. But given I work with former Apple employees, deal with broken Macs all day, and see the same repetitive nonsense all day that Louis deals with when it comes to hardware failures, I'd rather watch his channel and see him fix something than trust whatever Apple says. If you've worked with Apple before through a dedicated support contract, you'll know that they bend over backwards until you leave their limited perfect support window. Try to report issues like T2 Firmware bugs that impact actual machines in production. For example, T2 chips bricking themselves from OS updates. Or Command + Option + R not working as Apple documentation stated, because of a two year old firmware bug they have yet to fix. Or the shoddy graphics drivers they included in Catalina that now just cause random programs to crash out (as of 10.15.5...). It'll take forever to get fixed. Their hardware will keep breaking. And yet companies just keep buying the hardware. Heck this week I had a Mac with a glued in swollen battery that puffed up to more than double the thickness of the Mac. Also caused the bottom cover to blow off and break the screws. My urge to drop kick the Mac to Cupertino in a bent up mess before showing Apple had to be retrained big time. Some day Apple's genius choice is going to get someone hurt. Or set a courier's truck on fire. Now the difference between Louis and Apple is a big one when it comes to designing components. But I can agree with him on a few things much like how I can agree on some design choices Apple makes. But please continue to take posts out of context and troll around.
No, in fact Louis has fixed nothing. He is just a small time repair shop with a very big mouth. He knows nothing about designing actual products, of he did then he would realize that every time you change one item to avoid one issue that you then create three new problems.
@RpM_Evan not true people will avoid spending $100 upfront and end up spending $50 four times to get what they actually need. Also if you are buying apple you probably aren't very smart or good with money so I could see those people buying multiple macbooks.
I saw some people installing thermal transfer pads between the heat sink and bottom case. It works to spread the temperature but I'm worried about it heating the batteries.
the thermal camera shows a hot spot so all of that heat isnt transferred to the batteries also theres that fan so as long as theres space between the bottom case and the batteries it should be fine.
@@lonsn3929 but what if something happens. There is still a risk and I am not sure whether you're going to be able to fix your Mac with AppleCare + cuz they may just reject your request
Intel would have to throw some shade Apples way if there was unfair comparisons made for those tyoes of things, but if apple stick to just "performance better than last years model" then not much you can do
When they were talking about submerging it into water, is it technically possible (though insane) to put the Laptop on a HUGE icecube, like 30 cms tall and the other measurements those of the bottom of the laptop? Now you add some holes throughout, the ice (from top to bottom) and put it on a drain, so molten ice can drain and surround the cube with a metal brace (to minimise shifting).
@@bigprojects2560 It's kind of sad how people ditch on the Chinese. A lot of new and cool features are currently coming out China like super fast charging, under screen cameras.
@@cuthberter Not at the bottom... Maybe it's at the other side of the motherboard but it's probably not there either. The Huawei Matebook X pro had a similar approach where the fan is separate from the CPU cooler, but that laptop had a huge heatsink that covers most of the chips like a shell. It worked I guess. There was a modder called Bradshacks who added a flat heatpipe to the fan of that laptop, which decreased temperatures. He also performed other mods such as thermal paste/thermal pad/copper shim mods which Linus could investigate.
Next time you when you want to level your drill to zero (timestamp at 6:30) do it like a 3D Printer Nozzle. Use a piece of thin paper like a receipe from a shop (bon) or how ever you call it and wiggle it while you go down untill you feel the resistance. Its a pretty accurate method and thats how i learned it at work as a mechanic.
Well, wow... I finished my technical school (High school?) about 20 years ago. At that time the teacher instructed us how to use a Bridgeport milling machine, so we would know how the older machines worked. It was the same machine you have there, and i love it!. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
There are 2 gaps in the back of the MBA, the Fan is obviously meant to pull air from the other side and then out. The bottom cover even has insulation to guide it over the CPU. 2 minutes of research would have given Linus better information.
Right, but even with the guides, you lose a fair amount of pressure due to the channel not being perfectly sealed. Also, that sort of design is a bigger dust magnet... If that heatsink plugs up the air will go right around it. The lack of heat pipes also reduces thermal capacity.
"I'll tell you what happened, sir. My MacBook fell out of an airplane window." Apple employee: "it must have fallen in an ocean, because it looks like water damage."
@@jeremy4410 Steve Jobs was the one who demanded the Apple III be shipped without fans and vents, he was unpredictable. There's no telling where Apple would be if he were still alive. I do believe Jobs was infinitely better than Cook, though.
Владимир Владимир so is bunch of other PC manufacturers. But no one cares about them. Asus has this defect, where their batteries brick themselves if the PC hasn’t been turn on for a few months. How much you think the nerd-o-sphere has talked about this? If happened to me with two machines. One of them was brand new.
This is all stupid Intel's fault if they built efficient 7 nm CPUs then none of this would be a problem and the CPU would be small enough to fit a fan over and not make it too thick
@@gareginasatryan6761 Nobody gets a free pass, but the difference is that you don't typically pay an Asus tax. I have a cheap laptop of theirs which I got solely for work purposes. It's worked well for over a year, even with leaving it sitting for a few weeks at a time. I'm sure it will ultimately die prematurely for one reason or another, and that will be disappointing, but I will have gotten my money's worth and be satisfied. When you pay crazy exorbitant markups for Apple products, you would expect them to be of the utmost quality and last for years, but frankly they tend to just ship mediocre stuff with nearly as many problems as anything else on the market. I mean, if you were building a top of the line computer, would you buy a motherboard from Foxconn? Of course not. And yet, that's considered premium for Apple for years.
"Sir, the MacBook isn't complying with our thermal standards"
Linus - "Drown it"
macbook with no brim
😂
Joel Erro Grau you mean genius at a Genius Bar 😏
12:33 "Or we could put it directly into frozen water. Big brain time."
Shh, no one tell Linus that frozen water is called ice.
@@curiouslamp2841 brim WITH NO MACBOOK
IT"S ALL BRIM!
Linus to Louis Rossmann: hey, so we have this MacBook with some slight liquid damage...
Louis will cry while watching this video.
Louis Rossmann pointed awhile ago how bad of a design this was.
i could deffs see a fun colab from it
"Get the FUCK out of my STORE"
Louis got a soundboard for this :)
@@superusermode Yup! Here's the video: th-cam.com/video/iiCBYAP_Sgg/w-d-xo.html
somewhere in the distance, I hear a voice saying "as always, i hope you learned something"
Louis Rossmann. Haha.
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It’s a shame they didn’t unplug the little fan just to see if it is actually doing anything for the computer.
Knowing apple, unplugging the fan would make the entire thing crash
@@fakename287 indeed, it would probably disable and lock any Iphone in a 20km radius just to be sure because apple knows best :)
I'm not sure on a mac mobo, but on a pc they won't turn on usually with-out a cpu fan plugged in.
@@Anthonypython my laptop had a fan failure, it gave BIOS error message and automatically shutdown in some 10-15 seconds, but it also had an option to ignore it and take the risk
Many laptops refuse to boot with the fan unplugged but nothing happens if you unplug it after the post screen
MacBooks have two fans: the CPU fan and the fanboy that owns it.
and both are useless
😂😂😂
🤣 good one
None of them are useful
@@MHNK77 hahahahaha
"50c° can burn you in 1 minute"
My macbook air from 2011: are you challenging me?
@Void Astra the only fix is undervolt
My 2014 HP Envy laptop: 80. Best I can do.
@Void Astra my mid 2011 air was pinned at 100 degrees
Well, the great majority of pc and laptops run at that temperature...
my macbook pro 13" mid 2010 reachs 100 C somethimes, most of the time 85 C
10:15 "we are still under 75 degrees" "what the hell?"
it's surprising what you could achieve with an actual heat sink making actual contact with the cpu...
That actually fixes the biggest dealbreaker that pushed me back from the Macbook Air. Instead of grinding the heatsink like they did, I would jsut remove it and the heat insulator and put a bunch of Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut thermal pads there to let it dissipate its heat to the whole bottom. I don't care if it gets hot in my lap or not, we're not running synthetic benchmarks all the time on our laptops anyway. When doing normal stuff it shouldn't be a problem.
@@utubekullanicisi yeah, like, how many people are video editing on their lap or something?
people do cpu intensive stuff on laptops on tables. Which apple should know, since it seems to think only pros can justify buying a desktop.
@@utubekullanicisi Of course, Apple can't design a laptop that way. They'd be sued.
@@utubekullanicisi That is not how thermodynamics work. There is a hard limit on how much you can stack something like cabonaut thermal pads.The CPU will die before the pads can pull of the heat away.
@@malisa71 finally someone mentioned it.
For the others that want performance get a MacBook PRO
2:51
After the release of apple's M1 chip, can confirm this theory was true.
I was about to say the same thing lmao
facts 😂😂
I was going to say the same
One of the greatest companies of the world, is trying to trick their customers
@@sahin8780 are you just now picking up on this? Because remember when the IPhone 4 came out and you could block the antenna by holding it in the most comfortable way you would hold a phone and Apple's response was "LOL. Just don't hold it there".
Apple: that's wireless cooling
Your pfp and username fits perfectly with that comment.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just download a bigger heatsink 😁
Available 2050 for only 999$
@J Thorsson i"d rather call their looks dull to the point of being easy to tune out
the reason they are ahead in that category is that there isn"t much else one can reduce about the look to make it even more forgetable
"what if apple is sandbagging the MacBooks so that when they introduce the arm based MacBooks it'll be at half the temperature"
Doesn't sound too far off what they would do considering that fact that they severely underclocked the Apple II GS to make the Macintosh look good
Wait, you're saying that they haven't learned anything in 30 years? Yeah sounds plausible.
lol. There will NEVER be an ARM Apple laptop
@@AndiKola they have learned that yes this practice works and most apple users are dumb they fall for this trick everytime
@@babyUFO. this shall not age well, my friend
@@babyUFO. Oh boy, Apple aside, you have no idea that ARM will fully replace x86 in time, then?
I find it funny that a product called the "Air" has airflow and cooling issues.
antidonkey lol
The film perfectly proves that Apple did it well. This processor has no greater performance, will help much better cooling.
@@imho4990 what are u talking about the processor has wayyy better performance potential - the CPU is power limited. Even if you ignore the fact that its power limited, they improved performance by 14% through better cooling. Soo how exactly did apple do it right???
@@imho4990 it does have more room for improvement but it is limited because the computer thinks its still working with the bad cooling setup but it still gets a 14% improvement despite that
It'S called "Air", because it's all air and no substance.
3:08 he literally called it. Now that the M1 is out. A lot of cooling issues is resolved. Well done Linus.
apple was learning from him...or he works for apple
2:50 you mean. You linked to the end of his statement.
@@User-cb4jm whatever
@@User-cb4jm does it really matter?
@@Protobeans69 Yes
Macbook Air*
*Does not come with moving air. Provided air is static.
macbook AIR, passive cooling, the fan is there so u think it is actively cooled, just to fool dumb people who buy that sh!t
For the Air you pay a premium
@@scudsturm1 The fan draws air over the entire motherboard (exhaust). Its still not great but atleast it's there.
@@seshpenguin It's practically worthless and serves no purpose. Not a real cooling solution.
@Rerin YL 1% would be a better guess
Fixing Apple's engineering? That's what Louis has been doing for years
Oooooooooooooooooo (imagine that gif )
Sick burn bruh
Who's Louis?
nope, Louis fix them shitty as they are to punish them with longer service life… what a missery (as heself said)
Louis turns them into PCs and then misrepresents them to his customers as Macs /s
Why you guys praising him? lol
Apple: makes badly cooled laptops repeatedly and doesn't fix them
Linus: Fine, I'll do it myself
this is on purpose im pretty sure ”buy the pro model for better performance cause this one sucks”
@@DarkPortall But the problem is that the Pro models ALSO thermal throttle. So you're kinda SOL
Hey you think I have time to worry about thermal performance? I'm busy buying MacBooks.
Wireless cooling is the Future! by Apple ;-)
what are you poor or something? *turns around* Hey! Everyone! This guy's poor!
Now that the M1 Macs are here...seeing their performance gains...your speculation seems true...🙄🤔
Only sorta. Cuz they still beat any Windows machine on Intel chips
@@luisramos3639 haha
@@luisramos3639 with in there class, they get shat on by gaming laptop even ones around the same price(gpus are a bitch).
But AMD is fucking everyone up so I doesn't really matter
Their
@@colinoscopyyyy8104 👍
Doing it like everyone else
Apple: We dont do that here
THINK DIFFERENT
Great user and great pfp
This is the least funny comment i've seen in a while holy shit.
we do it worse 😎
nice :v
' i can wiggle it all i want, but it can't get any further in'
😩
*LinusSexTips mode acrivated*
@@Uilliam56 Yeah
😔
That’s what she said
Linus's dad joke count is just increasing exponentially at this point lol.
It's the beard
of course, if you look like a daddy you should act as one
Linus in a few days: *"B O Y"*
i believe thie equation is
jokes(x) = beard(x)^2 + dad(x) + kids
the beard is making him older
2:50 they just introduced the new macbook air as "2X FASTER THAN THE OLD MODEL!" so yes that's EXACTLY what they did.
damn linus was right
Except it’s been pretty much intel sandbagging themselves
@@killerkoalas3573 sandbagging implies YOU are hiding performance. Intel isn't hiding performance... If anything, they're running their chips redline because they're desperate to show they have performance. It's APPLE sandbagging the cpu by forcing it to thermal throttle way early.
Linus knew
@@ferna182 intel lied they would be on 7nm in 2016 which never happened. This is both intels fault for not being able to reliever the chip and apples fault for not changing the design.
The sound of Louiss Rossman screaming in the background.
No, in fact Louis has fixed nothing. He is just a small time repair shop with a very big mouth. He knows nothing about designing actual products, of he did then he would realize that every time you change one item to avoid one issue that you then create three new problems.
@@Billy123bobzzz Wow wow wow, what the actual f..reak ? Can you please explain me how changing a short circuited capacitor with another capacitor with the same (if not better) specs is not fixing and is creating three new problems big brain ?
Oh wait, you'll not answer I guess, like all double digit IQ people on the internet.
@@Billy123bobzzz typical apple fanboy hating on Louis and his awesomeness
Billy Bob has been reposting this on other posts 😂 bot alert
Or why its a good idea to out a fuse stronger than the other components, or why the authorized repair shops wont recover data and state its impossible while pushing a new device for you to buy or lie that something cant be fixed and push you a new device. Louis is certainly no hardware engineer but i dont see he running his mouth with nonsense, he actually argues with reason.
"Man drowns MacBook to torture it into achieving higher performance"
*water boarding
*canadian man killed a macbook by watercooling it*
Don’t call it “useless fan”... Say it has “Wireless Heatpipes”! Think different
Brought to you by the company that made the wireless anti-static bracelet.
I didn’t realize that there were heat pipes that required wires?
Next will be wireless head. No spinal cord needed!
Soham Ray I like to call my heatpipes “Thicc boi wires” 😂
Good for Apple they have so many wireless heatpipesboys who keep buying their products without really needing them.
When doing precision depth, use the knee (z-axis) of the milling machine. You'll have more control if it's working right.
I love when Linus is reckless and doesn't heed warnings, it's just so good.
That's true
Okay... like... you're freaking me out with you're "Conspiracy Theory" concerning the Intel vs ARM chips because I could absolutely see Apple pulling something like that.
What conspiracy did he say
@@MrMaddog2004subscribe That Apple was intentionally nerfing their performance with Intel chips so that when they make the switch to ARM , the performance with ARM will look better by comparison.
I mean apple is notrious for slowing down older iPhones via software updates so people would be forced to buy a new phone, so i dont think this is too far fetched.
Me too lol but for Ryzen, it could take them a lot more years to catch up
@@MsMonster128 they don't need to be faster than ryzen, just themselves. Because they know the people that buy these laptops are pretty ignorant of anything else
"we dont want the bottom of the laptop to burn you"
my 2016 razer stealth that literally burnt my desk *looks the other direction*
Friend used some old small thinkpad back in 2013. When he was playing CK2, at 5fps, the laptop would heat up whole 4x1m desk. :D It was fun/mildyinteresting. We were more baffled by him playing CK2 for days and days at that fps count :D
Airborne Filip how many kilos of potatoes did your friend use to run a bloody crusader kings?
@@BharathiChristiano Not even a whole one potatos. 5x speed was 1x for normal pc :D
CGWill _ my MSI did that too....
yeah my 2015 Razer Blade killed itself by heat, send it for repairs, and then when I got it back immediately started turning off during gaming because it was drawing too much power. They sent me the power brick for the bigger model.
Roses are red
Screens give off light
When linus says "speaking of"
I double tap right
Yes.
Rip but honestly it's true
This comnent deserves thousands of likes
You really don't have to say that, just skip and be silent about it, do you want him to lose those sponsorship? (I am not sure if it actually can effect it, if not then go ahead and rhyme as much as you want)
@@user-eu2mg8lw2t i just rhymed about it what is the problem with that?
I would've loved to see the fan just completely disconnected to show that it's literally having 0 effect on the computer.
the computer would probably throttle 100% of the time if the fan was unplugged no matter what the temperature because software
Then take it out of the case while its is still plugged in.
If the cable is not long enough, get an extension. Job done.
@@The_Keeper use a jumper with the correct resistance and you can eliminate the fan altogether
@@Azerkeux my thoughts exactly
@@OdgeBodge they should have moved the wiring so that the fan was outside the cpu as a test.
2015 ..........Insert in pan of water
2020...........Insert in tub of water
2025...........Insert in olympic sized swimming pool
Linus: Hold my beer
(Continuation)
2030..........Insert in a Lake
2035..........Insert in the Arctic Ocean
240........insert in the Atlantic Ocean
2040: inserts it on pluto methane ocean
2045: insert in dry ice enclosure
remember when apples motto was does more costs less?
HMMM
Good old days..?
I mean they weren't wrong...cause it does more HEAT you know.....
Apples motto still stands! It does more sales and costs them less to make.
@@TrendyWhistle Yass!
that was before the death of steve jobs
7:40 well that makes sense now. When they announced Apple Silicon MacBook Air, they can say how much better it is compared to Intel MacBook Air with the same design.
Linus: "Man I really wanted to post some crazy performance numbers today"
If you listen hard enough you can hear Tim Apple laughing in his best Darth Vader impression.
😂😂😂
Next video: *"We Flex Taped an NH-D15 to a MacBook Air"*
overcast network bro? respect
i would definitely watch that
@@unkanian8371 One of my favorite servers :)
Apple: “Think different”
Translator note: 'different' means rarted
Don't think. Just buy.
"Or don't think at all"
Its surprising they would still promote thinking when they sell this shit for over 1k
apple : lets rob retard rich kids
2:54 It turns out to be true (and it made some people angry at you for some reason.)
Linus just makes me happy. I could literally watch him do anything and it’d make my day a lot brighter.
Linus, if you read this, as one human to another, thanks for putting in all your blood, sweat and teraflops into your work. Jokes aside, all of us fans love you so much and you have helped out so many over the years.
Thank you and your team for all you do!
eew
@@BITCOIlN IKR???!!
I agree, Linus is amazing!
"That's 10 degrees lower. Well, not 10. But larger than 5." -- Linus Sebastian, 2020
Some time I wish I could tell that kind of excuse to my wife.
Hey, single digit public math is hard!
So happy to see Alex playing with his tools.
*toys
Andrew Jacob what a tool
@Corlar u figure it out soon
You have 69 likes. Sorry but no more likea for you again
Alex OnlyFans when?
2:51 The conspiracy theory was accurate.
Yt reviewers: "Apple have excellent craftsmanship, premium build quality, excellent design."
Macbook cooler: "Ha! I'm glad they can't see me from the outside"
"50c° can burn you in 1 minute"
My hp laptop from 2012 with his Fire smoke : Patheric
Louis said it best, "this is a wireless heatsink!"
2:54 HE PREDICTED M1's presentation 4 months in advance
Wow. And people call Linus hater. He understands Apple more than all of them 😂
@@shiskeyoffles his audience is mouth breathing pc gamer virgins so he has to pretend he hates apple even though he literally had an Apple Watch and a hidden iPhone somewhere lol.
Not gonna lie, that conspiracy theory sounds more true than false.
Nahh it will fry itself in no time and will have to buy a new one
Snapdragon always 60'c target. Years ahead in efficiency compared to Allwinner and Mediatek. AMlogic 1 year behind.
7nm, with devs who target ARM (RISC) 1st? Own future.
Nintendo knew for years, a dream that requires change and effort. DS/3DS/Switch. They cared and gave focus for today. They finally got Nvidia on board and owned us all (-1).
What will they do next, for us all. We can but dream and avoid an Apple, unless it is ripe, for a future of all humans, where £ < effort worth everyones time and future.
LTTstore.com/love
That’s stupid, no one would buy MacBooks if they didn’t have decent performance
@@jlu Marketing and social status goods bro. There is plenty of people out there who will shell out 2000+ USD every month to prove they are modern and high tech even if the performance is subpar. Developing countries nouveau riche
are especially good targets for that style of marketing.
@@jlu I don't think anyone who buys that crap, cares for performance. Just the Logo
Omg its been 5 years since the water cool macbook air, it feels like yesterday... 😌
I wasn’t the only one thinking 🤔 it😂😂
The famous kitchen studios
just macbook not macbook air
alstonmiller212 it was only called the MacBook because they wanted to sell the rest of the old airs, it has nothing to do with the old MacBooks it “succeeded.” It was a 12” MacBook Air. Also no one asked.....
They kept the tray in their inventory for 5 years, never losing track of it just for this moment in time. That's some dedication right there.
Linus: We've collected this bin of cooling apparatus!
Macbook: Uh oh.
MacBooks
"apple ice bucket, pre-purchase only for 199"
999$
@Robot Man Apple cider
Apple ice made from the purest water of the Swiss Alps
Only $150*
*per cube
@@eastlondonhustler 299 for sphere
@@ramgadhvi8051 plus the $500 wheels for it
People who buy a MacBook Air be like:
*I didn't want performance anyway* (slams bedroom door)
They didn't improve the performance meaningfully, only the temps.
Exactly!!!
@@FloatingOnAZephyr TIL 13.7% is not meaningful... is this where you think different?
yes
Will Jolliff
Funny how apple is saying: "You want a Macbook Air? Well, the CPU is not getting air at all"
"Just like she goes into our sponsor, Ting."
- Linus Sebastian
Hate to necropost but nice comment
@RITAS - ICH WILL !!! OFFEN MY CANAL!!! LET'S GO
3:32 Apple: Putting the "Central" in Central Processing Unit.
😂 is this a reference to something I've missed?
@@billyashworth3944 The cpu is in the center if i understood the reference correctly
"supposed to be reasonable do it at home option"
just needed a bridgeport mill for like $10k
I hope to one day have a home which makes solutions like this easy.
Louis Rossmann went nuts over this exact same thing...check out his Wireless Cooling video.
@@sabni8668 Obviously, because he knows how bad MacBooks are, since he repairs them every single day.
Why won’t they put little tiny heat pipe there, costs 5$ maybe
@@sabni8668 not a chip on his shoulder, Apple for 7 ish years has produced hilariously bad garbage, and he has to deal with their bullshit defective boards every day. Apple throws out basic engineering and design standards not even to be cheap but out of sheer incompetence. Fuses that are supposed to protect components placed further along the power lines than the components they protect.
@@sabni8668 Also has easily one of the least tech savvy consumer-bases out of any tech company in the world, wonder where all that customer satisfaction comes from?
@@sabni8668 You gotta see both sides of the argument. That's all.
Wireless technology list:
Bluetooth 5.1
Wifi
5G
NFC
Wireless water hose
*Apple's wireless heatsink*
Now I know why they call it “The MacBook *Air* ”
Let’s call it “contactless cooling”
@@RandomGuy-om1vy u are suppose to just open the back plate and cool by air like the porsche 911 air cooled
We just gonna ignore *wireless water hose?*
@@yourelegantwaifu air cooled 911's...good ol days
Linus: We could put it in frozen water
You mean ice Linus?
Thought exactly the same thing 😄
Nobody had any idea what he was talking about until your super high intellect pointed it out...
Thank you
There is such a thing a supercooled water (or at least water that has been modified a bit to stay liquid at and below its normal freezing point). If you add salt, that lowers the freezing point. add in crushed ice, and you get water significantly colder than it would normally freeze at. This is, by the way, how the 0 degree point on the Fahrenheit scale was determined.
All that said, though, I think Linus just meant really cold water.
7:40 "Theres no reason for it!" Oh, theres a reason for it. They want premature failures so their customers go out and pay for their ridiculous repair prices and or just buy a whole new system.
“That’s what the kids say right big brain?” Linus is such a dad
“The MacBook Water” subtitle has to be one of the best... or at least one of the funniest because I genuinely laughed 😂
6:10, wouldnt it have been waaay safer to add a copper shim? Also Alex would make the best surgeon.
Patient: "I'm really nervous"
Alex: "You and me both" 😂
Well putting a shim between the die and the heat sink would be necessary so if that is too thick it could still destroy the die and would be way less effective. The drill he uses is very old but very well adjustable if you know what you're doing. It is in no way comparable to just winging it with a cordless drill.
@@CheapBastard1988 If he took off too much material (which he did) you could crack the die as well. Just making a suggestion.
Great content bois, this is exactly the sort of rogue engineering stuff I was hoping we'd get with Alex on the team now that he's had some time to get accustomed to all those fancy new tools and machinery
4:20 Linus, there is an explanation for the fan placement that nobody is talking about. Moving the fan such that the output vent was directly in front of the heatsink wouldn't make a difference, because it's still moving the same amount of air. Linus, this is effectively a "pull" configuration over the heatsink, just as you'd see on a radiator. When the bottom lid is closed, the fan pushing air out of the left hand side(when it's upside down) creates negative pressure inside, drawing air in from the right hand side, over the heatsink. You can see that the only other gap in the casing for air to come in is on the other side of the heatsink.
The reason your added fan made such a difference has nothing to do with the location of the fan; it's just because it's a much bigger/faster fan with more airflow. A lot of people are mocking their engineering about not knowing where to put the fan, but that's not the issue. The issue is simply the low airflow of the fan in general, and the puny heatsink with low surface area. The bad cooling was not the result of bad engineers not understanding fan placement, it was the result of design decisions to have a small fan and heatsink.
I'm not a fan of apple but I agree. I saw one comment saying "I bet if you removed the fan it wouldn't change anything" 🙄
Exactly! You just proved that Linux is clueless for anything than playing Windows games, somewhat poorly.
Well, there are still losses coming from the fan being somewhere else. I wonder how much it is..
But that wasn't the fix was it though? It was fixing the heatsink by milling?
@@rkan2 Yeah, I believe their post-milling test wasn't with the large fan, so having the heatsink fit snugly was actually more of an improvement on its own
Having the fan far away is typically fine, but there's no ducking so air can flow anywhere inside the chassis. Not that it will help any if you air gap the die.....why not just remove the heatsinc entirely? It'd probably perform better
Imagine Tim Cook watching this from his mansion somewhere like: 😐
yeah he sucks
He saw this and he decided to announce Apple silicon instead of intel and i’m sure that they will fix the fan situation while doing that
seriously?
A man crying on stage after Oprah for Apple TV+ but does nothing for real improvements on Mac side. I totally hate him.
@@bullet01l30 nah he's joking
Linus: I can't watch while you mill a tiny bit of copper off.
Also Linus: Let's submerge the entire laptop in water.
I think Apple has actually a reason for this. You see when apple announced their arm chips they said it runs 50% faster right? Well if you have a thermal throttling Intel macbook and compare it to a nicely cooked arm chip macbook then they are right.
Alternative conspiracy theory: they thought they'd be already getting their own custom ARM chips a bit earlier, and had to rush a heatsink redesign for Intel
It doesn't really matter what the case may be because it is part of a trend of apple to package something that has some inherent design flaws but looks stunning to lay people.
doesn't sound unrealistic
You know what? Not only is this plausible, it’s verifiable! If the new MacBook Air has a similar enough board design we’ll know that you were spot-on!
@@DigitalNegative but that's under the hood - it has no exterior looks to stun anyone
This heatsink design was like that since October 2018
Who's here after seeing Apple replace their Intel chips, confirming Linus' conspiracy theory?
Upvote and comment, go higher up! Not even a day passed since the vid went public and Apple announced ARM.
Linus' bullshit conspiracy theory is that Apple is sandbagging the Macs. We all knew Apple was going to their own silicon, the fact that they announced it today does not prove Linus' bullshit theory in any way, shape or form. Apple did a very good job of explaining why they're going to their own silicon, watch the keynote.
@@vernonprice5986 bruh
@@yurifaggu You can bruh as much as you want, still doesn't prove jack shit. Where is the actual proof that Apple is sandbagging Intel Macs? Still waiting to see it, bruh
how is that confirming his theory, when he based the theory on the fact that Apple wants to replace their Intel chips. That's what his idea stemmed from. What's this circular shit
If you ever find yourself stranded on a island with a fully charged and working macbook you can use it to start a fire : D
i cant take this seriously with the spongebob music in the background lmao
The mac knows when you try improve thermals and limits itself in other ways 😂
this ^
It is the CPU limiting itself because stupid Intel builds 14 nm CPUs which are far less efficient and much bigger than 7 nm
Louis Rossmann probably enjoyed this video of torturing that MacBook heatsink.
No, in fact Louis has fixed nothing. He is just a small time repair shop with a very big mouth. He knows nothing about designing actual products, of he did then he would realize that every time you change one item to avoid one issue that you then create three new problems.
@@Billy123bobzzz :D Hello Apple user... Maybe with some ignorance spilled in too lol.
More like writing this down to the list of absolute shit Apple has put out...
@@Billy123bobzzz I mean, that goes beyond the point of my comment, but I'm sure he would love to drill holes through customer boards like LTT drilled at that heatsink. But given I work with former Apple employees, deal with broken Macs all day, and see the same repetitive nonsense all day that Louis deals with when it comes to hardware failures, I'd rather watch his channel and see him fix something than trust whatever Apple says. If you've worked with Apple before through a dedicated support contract, you'll know that they bend over backwards until you leave their limited perfect support window. Try to report issues like T2 Firmware bugs that impact actual machines in production. For example, T2 chips bricking themselves from OS updates. Or Command + Option + R not working as Apple documentation stated, because of a two year old firmware bug they have yet to fix. Or the shoddy graphics drivers they included in Catalina that now just cause random programs to crash out (as of 10.15.5...). It'll take forever to get fixed. Their hardware will keep breaking. And yet companies just keep buying the hardware.
Heck this week I had a Mac with a glued in swollen battery that puffed up to more than double the thickness of the Mac. Also caused the bottom cover to blow off and break the screws. My urge to drop kick the Mac to Cupertino in a bent up mess before showing Apple had to be retrained big time. Some day Apple's genius choice is going to get someone hurt. Or set a courier's truck on fire.
Now the difference between Louis and Apple is a big one when it comes to designing components. But I can agree with him on a few things much like how I can agree on some design choices Apple makes.
But please continue to take posts out of context and troll around.
@@Billy123bobzzz found the sheeple.
4:08 Louis Rossmann is screaming at Apple
eisenklad FANSPIN
No, in fact Louis has fixed nothing. He is just a small time repair shop with a very big mouth. He knows nothing about designing actual products, of he did then he would realize that every time you change one item to avoid one issue that you then create three new problems.
@@Billy123bobzzz you are so wrong it hurts
@@TristanSpeno I own a computer consulting company in Silicon Valley that supports a million users per year, everything I said is true.
@@Billy123bobzzz ok
2:39 That music is from Spongebob lol
5:28 They do it again!
11:29 This is becoming very intentional
It's almost as if the machine is built to cook itself to death so you have to buy a new one. Think different.
it's just built to be slow enough that people want to spend more on a MBP
That's big brain planning
Thats probably the plan. Works until the warranty expires.
@RpM_Evan not true people will avoid spending $100 upfront and end up spending $50 four times to get what they actually need. Also if you are buying apple you probably aren't very smart or good with money so I could see those people buying multiple macbooks.
think different, buy a thinkpad and build yourself a hackintosh and save some money
One day, beard Linus will shave, and we will all collectively shed a tear.
I saw some people installing thermal transfer pads between the heat sink and bottom case. It works to spread the temperature but I'm worried about it heating the batteries.
For the burst like modes that most Mac users experience it will be OK and allow for higher turbos.
the thermal camera shows a hot spot so all of that heat isnt transferred to the batteries also theres that fan so as long as theres space between the bottom case and the batteries it should be fine.
Even if... Buying a new set of batteries if it happens wouldn't be that bad of a risk
@@lonsn3929 but what if something happens. There is still a risk and I am not sure whether you're going to be able to fix your Mac with AppleCare + cuz they may just reject your request
Well Since the ARM-based MacBook is out now, I guess apple was truly sandbagging their intel based product for arm based products looking better.
Intel-to-Arm conspiracy - Hilarious, could be right... We’ll know more in less than 24 hours. 😅
Intel would have to throw some shade Apples way if there was unfair comparisons made for those tyoes of things, but if apple stick to just "performance better than last years model" then not much you can do
@Shaban Ashraf hackingtosh / virtual machine time
Apple: Hires Linus
Linus: Content Ends
Apple : we invented wireless heat transfer
It's called radiaton :)
@@AlaaFarhatS it's called iRadiation™©®
@@AlaaFarhatS r/woooosh
When they were talking about submerging it into water, is it technically possible (though insane) to put the Laptop on a HUGE icecube, like 30 cms tall and the other measurements those of the bottom of the laptop? Now you add some holes throughout, the ice (from top to bottom) and put it on a drain, so molten ice can drain and surround the cube with a metal brace (to minimise shifting).
Pretty sad when a cheap Chinese phone charger has more power delivery than that macbook.
You right.
Just tell all the rich people, that chinese tech is more premium and space grade
@@bigprojects2560 It's kind of sad how people ditch on the Chinese.
A lot of new and cool features are currently coming out China like super fast charging, under screen cameras.
@@annekedebruyn7797 cheap manufacturing doesn't always necessarily mean inept or outdated technology
I think that it’s the opposite,look how many things you can do decently with a great UX for so little power !
you'll find out the fan positioning reason, when they release the ARM macs. they're obviously using the same laptop design and swapping the CPU
this
plot twist: they remove the fan altogether. and add more...?
Surely there’s a heatpipe between the cpu and the fan? Surely it’s not completely passively cooled without even using the body as a heatsink?
@@cuthberter Not at the bottom... Maybe it's at the other side of the motherboard but it's probably not there either. The Huawei Matebook X pro had a similar approach where the fan is separate from the CPU cooler, but that laptop had a huge heatsink that covers most of the chips like a shell. It worked I guess.
There was a modder called Bradshacks who added a flat heatpipe to the fan of that laptop, which decreased temperatures. He also performed other mods such as thermal paste/thermal pad/copper shim mods which Linus could investigate.
Obviously they designed this thing for ARM chips, so when they reveal it next year they could say the thermal is so much better than intel
Next time you when you want to level your drill to zero (timestamp at 6:30) do it like a 3D Printer Nozzle. Use a piece of thin paper like a receipe from a shop (bon) or how ever you call it and wiggle it while you go down untill you feel the resistance. Its a pretty accurate method and thats how i learned it at work as a mechanic.
When they announce their ARM-based MacBooks literally one day after the video came out
"Let's go to the milling machine." - Me trying to do something simple like changing the tv remote batteries... things escalate quickly.
Video: fixing apples engineering
Apple: let's advertise on this video I'm sure it won't fall on deaf ears
What it is: MacBook Air
Under the hood: MacBook Fire
Cooling solution: MacBook Water
After one year: MacBook Earth
Well, wow... I finished my technical school (High school?) about 20 years ago. At that time the teacher instructed us how to use a Bridgeport milling machine, so we would know how the older machines worked. It was the same machine you have there, and i love it!. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
At this point the fan is clearly for aesthetics The CPU has been intentionally gimped to fall in line with their product stack.
It's there so they can pass brain-dead FCC regulators.
'Fan?' - check, 'heatsink?' -check.
Must work, tell Apple it's approved
Yup. No reason to buy the i7 or even i5 variants when even the i3 thermal throttles down to the same level of performance.
There are 2 gaps in the back of the MBA, the Fan is obviously meant to pull air from the other side and then out. The bottom cover even has insulation to guide it over the CPU. 2 minutes of research would have given Linus better information.
Right, but even with the guides, you lose a fair amount of pressure due to the channel not being perfectly sealed. Also, that sort of design is a bigger dust magnet... If that heatsink plugs up the air will go right around it. The lack of heat pipes also reduces thermal capacity.
@@avnger619 Well by just cutting a bit of copper he got a 20ºC improvement so that stock design is still garbage.
You guys are now seriously successful...an article about your accomplishments have been written here in India...good works guys😄😄
"I'll tell you what happened, sir. My MacBook fell out of an airplane window."
Apple employee: "it must have fallen in an ocean, because it looks like water damage."
Linus: "It's a hot bottom!"
Me: *Looks around for Vida Guerra*
I see you are also a man of culture.
Oh, man... dat ass. Even this many years later. *Stares off into the distance with a sly grin*
@RITA - F U С К М Е !!!!! OPEN MY CANAL !!! oh no... It's u
Linus is like "I really want to drop this MacBook into water"
Would have been way cooler if you had done that
No pun intended
😏
:)
not gonna lie, I really wanted that too
*Apple refuses to fix their cooling solution*
Linus: Fine, I'll do it myself
Remember when Steve Jobs said we don't ship junk? Well, there's that
Steve Jobs isn’t doing this though
he would’ve never let this happen
@@jeremy4410 Steve Jobs was the one who demanded the Apple III be shipped without fans and vents, he was unpredictable. There's no telling where Apple would be if he were still alive. I do believe Jobs was infinitely better than Cook, though.
@@corylynn8739 why do you think that?
Good thing Steve Jobs isn't around anymore to see his company turn to shit so quick after his death
I got a PulseWave ad with Linus in it and thought it was the video for the first 30 seconds. You win this time.
"apple engineering is a meme" - Louis Rossmann
Thats what happens when you hire more lawyers than engineers as a tech company
Владимир Владимир so is bunch of other PC manufacturers. But no one cares about them. Asus has this defect, where their batteries brick themselves if the PC hasn’t been turn on for a few months. How much you think the nerd-o-sphere has talked about this? If happened to me with two machines. One of them was brand new.
This is all stupid Intel's fault if they built efficient 7 nm CPUs then none of this would be a problem and the CPU would be small enough to fit a fan over and not make it too thick
@@loveiphones4550 thats not how process nodes work even a 1000nanometre cpu is smaller than a blood cell
@@gareginasatryan6761 Nobody gets a free pass, but the difference is that you don't typically pay an Asus tax. I have a cheap laptop of theirs which I got solely for work purposes. It's worked well for over a year, even with leaving it sitting for a few weeks at a time. I'm sure it will ultimately die prematurely for one reason or another, and that will be disappointing, but I will have gotten my money's worth and be satisfied. When you pay crazy exorbitant markups for Apple products, you would expect them to be of the utmost quality and last for years, but frankly they tend to just ship mediocre stuff with nearly as many problems as anything else on the market. I mean, if you were building a top of the line computer, would you buy a motherboard from Foxconn? Of course not. And yet, that's considered premium for Apple for years.
LINUS: why it is not in contact?
APPLE : its called social distancing duh..
You water cooled the MacBook Air, a machine that can get burning hot. All you need is to bury it in the ground to become the avatar