Krokodil Ce 6/8 III 14305 in Koblenz.
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- Krokodil Ce 6/8 III 14305 am 2.4..2019 in Koblenz.
Weil hier viele gefragt haben.
Dieses Koblenz liegt in der Schweiz im Kanton Aargau, dirkekt am Rhein, gegenüber der deutschen Stadt Waldshut-Tiengen.
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koblenz_AG
In Koblenz kreuzen sich die Strecken Waldshut - Turgi und Bülach - Basel und es liegt nur wenige 100m von der im Jahre 1859 eröffneten Rheinbrücke entfernt.
Ich habe hier noch ein zweites kurzes Video von diesem Krokodil:
• Krokodil Ce 6/8 III 14305 - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Angenehme ruhige Kameraführung, nur Originalton (keine störende Musik) , detailreich. Sehr schön ! Danke für's Hochladen.
Schön zu sehen das sich um dieses Monstrum noch immer so liebevoll gekümmert wird. Schönste Lok für mich persönlich die es auf der Welt gibt!
The production "Crocodiles" were the series SBB Ce 6/8 II and SBB Ce 6/8 III locomotives of the SBB, Swiss Federal Railways, built between 1919 and 1927. There were 33 class Ce 6/8 II and 18 class Ce 6/8 III, making a total (excluding the prototype) of 51 locomotives. These locomotives were developed for pulling heavy goods trains on the steep tracks of the Gotthardbahn from Lucerne to Chiasso, including the Gotthard Tunnel.
The electric motors available at the time were large and had to be body-mounted above the plane of the axles, but flexibility was required to negotiate the tight curves on the Alpine routes and tunnels. An articulated design, with two powered nose units bridged with a pivoting center section containing cabs and the heavy transformer, met both requirements and gave excellent visibility from driving cabs mounted safely away from any collision. The two motors in each nose unit were geared to a jackshaft between the drive axles farthest from the cab, with side rods carrying the power to the drivers. These locomotives, sometimes called the "Swiss Crocodile" or "SBB Crocodile", were highly successful and served until the 1980s. The German model railway manufacturer Märklin published a book about their history in 1984.] Several are still in operation as preserved historical locomotives.
what was its top speed?
@@RenaissancePeopleNYC According to the Wikipedia article, from which Jason Wilson's information is pasted, the top speed is 75 kph (47 mph). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_%28locomotive%29
Here is the Austrian crocodile, OBB class 1189, built in the late 1920s. I believe 18 were built.
th-cam.com/video/cUybQlfc4Uw/w-d-xo.html
Do you know the weight of each motor, their physical size and HP rating?
@@marcconyard5024 Look on Online Wikipedia, there's lots more good information there. .
That is one of coolest locomotives I have ever seen. Sounds a bit like a steamer
justly famous class. I'm only a bit over an hour from Koblenz! I need to find out how to know when these veterans are on the road.
You've got the whine of the 4 motors, coupled with the noise from straight-cut gears which varies with the position of the connecting rods
Haettes höher aus steuern müssen, dann hatte nan nur noch kratzen gehoert
they were built in 1919 and used regularly on the Gotthard railway until 1986, they still run like a clock, despite only being museumpieces now..... try that with todays electronic tupperwares on wheels:)
Des trains très nobles comme nous les avons toujours aimés ...les gares étaient aussi des bijoux et des zones logistiques qui ont contribué au décloisonnement et au développement de nombreuses régions éloignées et peu desservies par le réseau routier.
Merci pour ces vidéos qui valorisent et rappellent le beau patrimoine ferroviaire.
This is a fine example of an outstanding locomotive. It looks like they just outshopped her.
was für ein wunderschöner anblick diese lok doch ist, da geht mir als tf (im güterverkehr) das herz auf und ich habe ein lächeln von ohr zu ohr im gesicht! wow ...
I did not think these Still Existed❤️Beautiful Locos 💕Thats what I love about Continental Railways.
Schöne Filmaufnahmen mit dokumentarischen Wert. Es ist ja nicht gerade täglich, dass ein Gotthard-Krokodil im Ruhestand sich in Koblenz zeigt! :)
There is one on display at National Rail Museum in New Delhi. This was one of the earliest and served the Mumbai (Bombay) area. Our previous generation saw it in action but we missed the show. Thanks for uploading it, at least I could get the idea of how it might have operated here in India
Looks like a cousin to the Pennsylvania L5, good to see the older stuff well maintained and running.
I've just googled Pennsylvania L5, I see the close family likeness!
Boxpok Except this one will always be better because it’s swiss
The *Pennsylvania L5* is actually a direct technological descendant of the *Crocodile.* The Swiss pioneered electrical locomotives and *Crocodile* was first built in 1919 in Switzerland by a consortium that included Brown Boveri. Brown Boveri was later seminal in the building of the *Pennsylvania L5* - first built in 1924 in the US.
www.swissmint.ch/e/aktuell/neuheiten/krokodil.php
closer to a GG1
Eine grandiose Maschine in hervorragendem Zustand. Danke für den Upload.
Superb! Very very very good video and sound ! Great!
Greetings from Zagreb / Croatia
Wunderschöne Lok. Sehr schön gefilmt. Super
Looks so classical.
And the motor sound is so nice‼️
I like how it sounds a bit like a steamer at a distance
蒸気機関車の音に似ていますね！ (*^-^)ﾆｺ
Sari Sumdac
First time,I can't make sense why the sound bit steamer.
But,here well the sound sometimes same as steam loco because they are rod drive both.
For me I like the sound for nose suspention drive (I'm not sure the expression is right.
In Japanese "吊り掛け式〈Tsurikake-siki〉).
Yea,it's sound nostalgic‼️😊👍
yosidakayo さん。
実は上のSari Sumdacさんと同じこと言われてて、電気と蒸気と違うのに何で⁉️
と思ってたんですが、
なるほど‼️
確かに“シュッシュッ“という音そうですよね⁉️
多分両方ともピストン式のロッド（車輪に付いてる長い棒）で動くのがそう聞こえるのかも知れませんね。😊
私は、スタートの時の重低音から段々上がっていく“吊り掛け式“独特のモーターの音の事を言ってたのですが、二人のコメント見て新たなポイントに気づきました。
ありがとうございました。😊
Ich liebe das! Inspiriert meine Krokodil und die alte Blechwagen bon Märklin wie hier fahren zu lassen!
Ich schließe mich Havelland an, super Film und perfektes Modell, sehr schön
Super film of a truly unusual vehicle. Enjoyed it immensely.
Sehr schön alte gute Maschinen. Das ist eine schöne Erlebnis. Danke schön Ihnen.
Fascinating locomotive! I always liked its design.
When I was a kid I had a Marklin set - this is one of the locomotives that was in their catalog that I coveted.
Wow! This is a legend!!
Danke für das schöne Video ich besitze genau diese Lok mit der Nummer in Spur 1
Ein Wahnsinnsteil die Lok, einfach herrlich anzusehen.👍
Nicht nur eine Traum Lok auch ein perfekt gedrehtes Video,,,danke
What a magnificent locomotive. Well maintained.
So cool!!! 👍👍👍👍
Tolle Lokomotive, klasse Video, danke fürs Hochladen.
01:47: The mask from the "Scream" motion picture...
LOL! That took me a minute.
the blue loc just to the right?? big eyes, big mouth?
@@boristhebarbarian Yes.
Für mich schönste el. Lokomotive!
The CE 6/8 will always be my favorite European locomotive class. Also love the shot at 8:22
I felt my grandfather's spirit just watching the video.
Ich mochte diese Lok schon immer, ich weiß nicht warum aber irgendwas hat sie, sie schaut einfach cool aus! Vielleicht weil sie mit den Pleuel ein bißchen was von einer Dampflok hat.
After playing Transport Fever 2, I've suddenly gotten a lot of train video recommendations. Love it! Trains are very interesting. In the game I'm using this Krokodil locomotive a lot. Pulls a lot of weight, although not very high top speed.
Small wheels equals more power but less speed. That's what you need in moutains chain
Schön!! Danke sehr!
Nice!! I used to use this all the time on Trainz 12
Wow, even though it looks a bit old-fashioned but very powerful, it's probably one of the rarest in the world
Very good video, but nowhere can I find one of 'under the covers' of a Krokodil. When restoration is happening, can we see all the internal working layout of the loco with its cowling removed?
I may have answered my own query when I found this
th-cam.com/video/grCzLBxkkcE/w-d-xo.html
It would still be great for enthusiasts to see hatches opened and covers removed - where possible of course.
Was für eine tolle Lokomotive.
What a beautiful beast!
Fascinating locomotive!
Now that's a beast! :-o One is not quite sure whether he's looking at an electric or a steam locomotive. :-)
PontiacCZ it’s electric
That is ONE kool looking Engine, wish I had the resources to travel to see this kind of stuff ,but content to sit here and watch on this internet
WOW....Danke/Dank!!! Great share VERY much like the PRR L5's!! Electric locomotives driven by jack-shafts were at one time the only effective means of transmitting the power of the massive electric motors down to the wheels/road...very simple, very effective, and very smooth w far less "hammer-blow" effect on the rail than steamers. PRR DD1's were pretty much used right into the 30's when superceded by GG1's. / Toller Anteil SEHR ähnlich wie der PRR L5 !! Von Wagenheber angetriebene Elektrolokomotiven waren einst das einzig wirksame Mittel, um die Kraft der massiven Elektromotoren auf die Räder / Straße zu übertragen ... sehr einfach, sehr effektiv und sehr sanft, weit weniger "Hammerschlag" Wirkung auf die Schiene als Dampfer. PRR DD1 wurden bis in die 30er Jahre verwendet, als sie von GG1 abgelöst wurden.
....der Dampfloksound zu Anfang war passend!!!! 😄😄😄😄😄👍👍👍👍
That noise is incredible!
Beautiful video! 👍👍👍
Sehr schönes Video!!!
European locomotives always look so elegant.
Estamos de acuerdo.
FANTASTIC VIDEO
Das war noch Qualität 👍😊 die heutigen Loks werden sicher nicht solange fahren. LG aus der Zentralschweiz
Sehr schön 👍👍👍
We used to have larger versions of these on 1500V DC in India. Now as museum piece only as we have 25000 V AC traction.
Un vrai chef d'oeuvre technologique cette locomotive avec double motorisation et double cabine de conduite
I can see why they called this Crocodile, it does look like one with its snout like (what I assume to be) engine covers
No engines, just big transformers and switch gear. Same difference really though.
@@herpnderpn2484 I'm sorry, but you're wrong. The electric motors and the drive are placed in both "snouts", the middle section carrys the transformer.
Here is an description:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_(locomotive)
Hello Macintoshiba, that's right. In both front sections are motors and drive, in the middle part is the transformer.
Please have a look at this description: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_(locomotive)
Excellent video.
I would love this to visit the UK, a showstopper if ever there was one!
Господа, я впечатлен , удивлён и рад что история жив а и хорошо себя чувствует!
Very nice video! Greetings from Asturias
It’s not like England, nobody hanging out of the coaches talking pictures. Noisy old thing. Thanks for sharing.
No, they usually get out, but there is no platform on this track and there were several trains on the other tracks at the same time.
Those huge links that connect electric motor to driven wheels make very sweet sound. I wonder why they were needed?
This type of locomotive was used in my country India before few years.and it was called WCG1. It operated under 1500V DC on Central Railways. It was manufactured by English Electric and Vulcan Foundries. Today we have AC traction all over so this type of locomotive is only seen at railway museum.
For a very long time I assumed that the drive arms and wheels were opposed 180 degrees, it only made logical sense to me. Well because of this video my suppositions were validated at last. Thanks Mr. Klaus. Oh by the way how's your brother Santa, sorry I couldn't resist that.
Actually you'll find that they are 90 degrees out of phase. In the steam locomotive world this would prevent both cylinder sets from being at bottom/top dead center and be unable to start. Usually it is refereed to in the US as "Quartering". I believe this practice continued through to the electric locomotives simply though design momentum.
What kind of engine this locomotive use? I doubt that its the original from the 30s
Danke Gerhard!
Awesome. Well maintained beast of burden. I've seen similar engines in the indian railways used in Igatpuri - Mumbai section some 50 - 52 years back when I was a 12 - 15 year old boy. These were used for heavy goods hauling in hilly sections. This crock snouted engines were powered by direct current. Subsequently the DC traction has disappeared and replaced by AC. I don't know where the Indian engines were manufactured.
These locomotives were operational in India till the mid 90s, mostly worked in DC traction. In their last years these locos were mainly used for shunting.
Hallo Gerhard! ein sehr schönes Video vom Krokodil Ce 6/8 III 14305 der SBB in Koblenz (Schweiz) am 02.04.2019👍 Ich hoffe nur das das Krokodil noch lange betriebsfähig bleibt. Ich wünsche mir so sehr das Das Krokodil Ce 6/8 III 14305 der SBB, auch nach Deutschland zu Gast kommt, und auch in Deutschland vor Sonderfahrten oder vor Regelzügen eingesetzt wird.
Viele Nette grüße S.C
Hallo Sebastian,
erstmal danke, es freut mich immer wenn ich lese das mein Video gefällt.
Jetzt aber zu deinem Wunsch: Da wird leider nichts draus, das Krokodil hat leider keine Zulassung in Deutschland und kann deshalb in Deutschland nicht eingesetzt werden.
Gruß Gerhard
Das ist aber schade😔😔😔
Indian Railways used DC run "Crocodiles" extensively for pulling of goods trains and pushing of passenger trains on up moving gradients. Occasionally, I believe, they were used on passenger trains too. As a child I have observed these beautiful beasts with intense curiosity and admiration.
Wow, that's so unusual construction is like hybrid of steam and electrical locomotive on the down of electrification
Спасибо 👍😀
Gerhard, hallo. Von welchem Jahr ist es?
Und warum hat die Rāder so ein Dampf locomotive ?
Dankeschön von Argentina
Hallo Tim.
Was meinst du mit "von welchem Jahr?"
Das Video ist von 2019 und die Lok ist Baujahr 1925.
Schau mal hier:
www.sbbhistoric.ch/sammlungen/fahrzeuge/lokomotiven/elektrisch/ce68iii-14305.html
Greats from Germany
Очень интересное конструкторское и дизайнерское решение электровоза.Респект.
Бомбический крокодил👍👍👍👍👍👍🐊
Nice locomotive, in India such type of locomotive available generally and nickname was "Crab' class WCG1
Nicknamed kekda ....used in the Igatpuri ghats till the mid 1980s atleast
Sir Leslie Wilson is what it was called by GIP. Ive seen it shunting trains in the Dadar CR rail yard.
Certainly an unusual locomotive. Are any still running ???
Qué maravilla de máquinas!
This is an fantastic example (right time at a right place) 😁 nice
Es handelt sich bei diesem seltenen Zug um eine "HistorischeFahrt" der SBB, exklusiv für ihre Mitarbeiter-Innen im Ruhestand. Ich wäre da auch gern mitgefahren, aber der Zug war sofort ausgebucht, ist ja klar. Danke fürs Video!
Welp... this is now my new favorite train
Amazing locomotive (luar biasa)
Di Indonesia tidak ada 😁
Good video, and a nice loc. Sorry for my bad English, because I am Dutch ;-)
Не ожидал увидеть смесь паровоза и электровоза. Очень интересно выглядит и звучит необычно.
OMG As an English boy and man I have always been amazed at this Loco on how Powerful it Looks. It's just Perfect.
Has it ever ran Quirtly ?
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Awesome piece of machinery. That one is the Märklin model I always wanted...
Same here. .
when i was a kid growing up in münich my rich cousin had a layout i think it was ho...and he had one ! it looked so odd and attractive at the same time
.but i remember thinking (about 7 years old)..what a smart design !! it goes both ways and always looks the part lol (and its electric !!..most were stream then ( circa 1959 or so )..fond memorys ! and this station and ambiance remains unchanged ..i love that aspect ..cheers
Are you me. ;w;
Darf ich fragen? Warum manchmal ein pantograph und manchmal zwei? Ist der einiger besser als die anderen, oder? Ich weiss - bin dumm....
Espectacular
Looking good :)
Mich wundert die gute Kurvengängigkeit bei dem Achsabstand...
Looks like the old Great Indian Peninsular railway moving around Bombay in the olden days. Maybe from the same stable
Wasn't this mainly used for cargo?
Tak to je krása 😚
Cudowna❤️
A well maintained Shunting Loco like our WDS series in Indian Railways
Beautiful
Sehr schöni Kroki-Loki mit den grünen Typ III Wagen dran.
Konnte aber nie mitfahren mit einen Zug welcher das Krokodill vorne hatte.
Dafür mal anfangs 90ern mit einem "Schnellzug" der von München her und nach Chur gefahren ist - der hatte von Buchs aus nur noch 3 Wagen an dem kleinem Krokodill Ae 4/7.
Soviel ich noch weiss - Früher wurden auch 2 oder gar 3 Krokodill Lokomotiven benutzt um Güter über den St. Gotthard zu transportieren.
It is a very beautiful electric locomotive. Which manufacturer made it?
SLM pour la partie mécanique et BBC et MFO selon les séries pour la partie électrique.
Je vous remercie(*´ω`*)
Esta antigua locomotora eléctrica era de los tiempos en que había un fuerte dimorfismo entre locomotora y vagon. Después las locomotoras comenzaron a confundir su forma con los vagones de pasajeros (básicamente rectangulares). Hermosa locomotora que refleja todo su poder.
ein herrliches Gerät
wo war das denn in koblenz ?
Am Bahnhof :)
Aber in Koblenz in der Schweiz.