Jim Cornette on WWE Badd Blood 1997
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- From Episode 217 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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The hell in a cell match with HBK & Undertaker with the debut of Kane is very memorable
Yes. THATS how you debut an unknown wrestler. When he ripped the door off I was like oh shit this guy is a serious threat to the rest of the roster.
@@JohnDoe-ym5ly his whole attire with the red and black mask with one sleeve missing on his left arm made Kane look like a demon
I saw it on PPV live. total "oh shit" moment when you see another guy that looks like The Undertaker and also uses his finisher on him. Lord of Darkness Undertaker is my favorite era, but Kane made him mortal. WrestleMania 14 was a great show too. WWF 1997 though was a very underrated period, probably cause it's not actual Attitude Era and they were still running it the old bad way.
@@Braylon1997 you like demons boy
@@Braylon1997 I don't think it made him look like a demon but alright. I did like the attire. As corny has said him and Prichard had like a Michael Myers kind of look in mind but McMahon had a superhero costume in mind. When asked about it McMahon said "this guy is burned and he is trying to over compensate for his short comings". That does make sense in reality as people do try and over compensate for things but a superhero outfit would have been 100% stupid. The outfit they chose was the superhero outfit but luckily it does NOT look like a superhero outfit at all. If it did it all would have been garbage. It looks cool. They had a cape for it too which he used once during a house show in Madison Square Garden but thank God they got rid of the stupid cape. So yeah Vince was going for a superhero look and thankfully for the fans it didn't look like a superhero outfit and it didn't come across to any of the fans that he was trying to look like a superhero. If they put like a big superman style logo in the middle with a big "K" instead of an "S" the fans would have sh*t all over it.
😊 Never get tired of Jim's kevin dunn impersonation.
Me neither. I laugh every time
If I ever go to a WWE event again which I doubt would happen because it would be a waste of money. I can't even handle watching that trash on TV so going to a live event would just be a reason for me to get loaded. I don't even even drink very often. I drink maybe once every 2 years but I would have to be hammered to be able to handle that sh*t. Anyway if it ever happens I am DEFINITELY taking a "Bucky Beaver" sign. Apparently the Beaver Man himself scans the audience and has them confiscate any signs having anything to do with beavers. Haha I wanna see if it gets confiscated. Perhaps I would be a little less obvious about it and write something about a beaver but not "Bucky Beaver" exactly. Maybe just write something like "BUCKY" or a sign that asks "what Beaver wrote this". I would love to hear securities reason for why my sign is being confiscated.
**furious teeth noises**
Bugs Bunny: *Bangs a Beaver*
Beaver: *Gives birth to child*
Said Child: *Kevin Dunn*
So it was bugs that saved the tapes from Vince's burning car trunk!
I find you and Jim tiresome TJ ...Kevin Dunm
Thank goodness Kane debuted pre-internet/social media. Had it happened today people would crap all over it. 'Why did he wait for the cell to be lowered and locked? Why wouldnt he attack Taker backstage or during his entrance? Why did kane have entrance music? How is he controlling the lighting?' And the inevitable chants of 'I-saac Yan-kem clap-clap-clap clap clap'. The feud would be rushed, they'd have one match, and then the character would be dropped. And in mid 98 Glen Jacobs would show up as himself wrestling as a jobber in wcw.
Meltzer attacked/insulted Kane for years.
RIGHT
This is still my favorite storyline build-up
Moral of the story: dont listen to dirt sheet writers
Brilliant observation
This is only missing Kevin Dunn changing colors 😂😂
I'm a simple man. I see Dunn in the thumbnail on a Cornette vid, I click
1997 one of if not the greatest year in wrestling history.
Absolutely not. But hey , at least you think so.
@magAMedia 1986 pal!
@@yoholmes273 he's right. WWE 97 has major significance. Hart turns heel so you get the US vs Canada angle. You get the formation of DX, the solidification of Stone Cold being a star, The Rock turning heel and joining the NoD. The attitude era starts, blood were in some matches again and you got three matches that you could say could be match of the year (Hart vs Austin WM13, Canadian Stampede tag match or Hell in the Cell). Of course WCW had the whole Sting vs NWO angle building up to fight Hogan, great cruiserweight matches etc. Wrestling fans were truly blessed in 97.
1997 was definitely a great year! In the WWF, we saw in that year the gradual transformation of that company from the Saturday morning cartoon era to what would eventually become the Attitude Era. By the time of the Badd Blood PPV, the transformation was really kicking into high gear. The whole timeline for this was late 1996 through early 1998, but 1997 was the year where most everything happened, and it was awesome!
It's a contender.
I love when Jim cusses Kevin Dunn
Loved the first Hell in a cell match, I don't even remember the other matches that night 😆
Yeah, there's a reason why you don't remember the rest of the card..... The Headbangers vs The Godwinns, Desciples of Apocalypse vs Los Boricuos, Nation of Domination vs Legion of Doom, midget wrestling..... Granted a few of these matches were the result of Pillman vs Foley being canceled, but otherwise a very forgettable PPV aside from the main event.
@@johns3491 haaaaaaa The Mexican Minis!!..
one of the best matches ever
Any time Dunn or Russo are in a Cornette video, I immediately want to watch it.
One of the best debuts ever!
That’s gotta be Kane !
Mr. Cornette. Take your time during these podcasts at all times. The people clamor for these new episodes.
I’m a simple man. I see the Bucky beaver teeth, I click.
Why is it green? Is it a HULK Beaver?
@@jeffmac9642 Cornette said reptilian
1997 was my favourite year of WWF
"Michaels wins. He always has to win or else wise he wount show up" - Jim Cornette
I was there that night! My 7 year old self was absolutely terrified when Kane’s music hit and that monster appeared, ripped the door off the cage and killed the Undertaker.
Some other good matches from that night were the flag match with the Harts vs Vader/Patriot, and then the handicap tag match between LOD and the nation of domination.
One of the coolest nights of my childhood. I will never forget it, and I will never forget the ovations STL legends got from the crowd.
I was there that night. Even as far away as I was from the ring, it was still impressive to see Kane's debut. And as far as Jim eating Imo's pizza 2 days in a row, I am surprised he wasn't on the toilet for 4 days straight after that
How do you know he wasnt
No
I could, and have, listened to Corny talk wrestling all day long
This ppv is so legendary the summerslam match Bret vs undertaker with Shawn as the special guest referee that set up this match is often overlooked.
And that’s what I miss dearly. The calculated set ups and story telling to the climax such as Kane’s long awaited debut. Ahhhh what a time it was
That finish with Michaels hitting taker with a chair was amazing.
First live PPV I ever went to. My family hated Shawn Michaels so much we still cheered the "heel" Bret Hart in NJ, much to the displeasure of the crowd.
Best there is, best there was and the best there ever will be!
@@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 then hitman holding the belt and 5 fingers up like “Legennnnnnnnd bitches”
@@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 yeah it was a good finish but unfortunately it was also EXTREMELY predictable. I was only 10 when I watched that ppv live and I still knew that Michaels was going to screw over Taker. I didn't know it would be with a chair. I thought he would accidentally super kick taker. I even told my friend earlier that day "I think Michaels is going to try to super kick Bret and Bret will duck and Michaels will hit Taker". I was basically right just replace the kick with a chair. WWF/E has always been SOOOO predictable. Its even worse now than it was before but it's pretty dang bad when even a 10 year old can predict everything you're going to do. Just zero creativity from this company ever since the beginning of it's existence. I was of course fine with the finish as I wanted Bret to win.
Kane was so scary then! I was only 7 at the time and thought wtf is this lol.
Those red light ring squash matches
That Kane debut made me a fan of wrestling
If I were to ever see Kevin Dunn in person, I would tell him, "You should have listened to Jim Cornette's ideas more often, Bucky Beaver!"
I can only imagine how wild and how much fun that Cornette wedding reception must have been.
How many stars did it get?
The night before they just watched old wrestling and Prichard hated it.
@@juliandavidhoffer2022 Of course he likely seen something better than the shit he books.
@@danielburger1775 Not sure Meltzer was invited lol
I remember ordering this ppv and remember just being amazed on how great hell in a cell match it was and when Kane debuted I was in shock when he pulled the door out..what a classic moment for Kane
At least Brian will talk about Pillman but no one else will
To this day there are only 2 pro wrestlers who I think have the best arm physique- John cena and kane. Kane’s physique and his arms truly will not be matched the perfect mix of long, thick , ripped arms.
2002 they were like tree trunks
@@juliandavidhoffer2022 2002 is my favorite kane
@@Njbear7453 that was probably his most fun year. Or 2001
@@juliandavidhoffer2022 he should’ve beat triple h for The world heavyweight title at no mercy! 2002 kane had the ic and tag titles and was SO OVER.
@@Njbear7453 but no one could ever beat the son in law
I watched this at home, remember them announcemening about Brian Pillman dying.
I remember watching it live at 1am over here and I tried to draw a rough draft of kane at 4am so I could show my friends at school the next day and I drew the sleeveless part of his attire on the wrong side 😅
5:32 if you were wondering
I was there that night! The people in the arena (Kiel Center) weren't able to hear the announcement about Pillman's death, so about 20,000 people didn't know until they returned home and checked the message boards or whatever source was available at that time. The legends segment was very well done and it was amazing seeing the first-ever Hell in a Cell match.
You know Jim's first thought after hearing the words Badd Blood 1997 was Pillman.
The Legends Of St. Louis is one of my favorite PPV segments. This is how you do a proper legends showcase 👌
I watched that Hell in a Cell so many times , I wanted to be a wrestler I went to a park at night were they had a fenced backstop for baseball I used to slam my back against the fence as I was doing gassers , I would climb the fence all the way up and climb down , I was 17 I felt that if HBK can make it I can make it that's what made HBK great.
I'll always remember jim Ross saying everybody remembered Sam Muchnick when they were a kid, when 90% of the crowd was 18-25, so probably nobody remembered that. Also shout out to the guy with the "Harley Race needs the Stone Cold Stunner" on hardcam during the celebration.
I was there that night in St Louis. Amazing show. 🔥 THATS GOTTA BE KANE!
Dory normally wears track pants and one of his gimmick shirts, and either a gimmick hat or the cowboy hat. Saw him wear a suit once in 2009 or 2010 I forget the exact date but it was just for the heel's to take the sports coat and rip it up for an angle where he comes out later and gives them the flipper uppercut as payback.
Awesome Shoot Today Jim!!😎🐐🐐
You should make a limited addition Bucky Beavert shirt.
Oh wow! A question not from That Starkville annoyance👐. I was getting worried that this channel was turning into Starkvilles Soap Boy 🧼🧼
I know he wasnt a part of it, but i would LOVE if he reviewed some WCW 97
It was an awesome PPV! I was 7 at the time.
“My God, that’s got to be…that’s got to be Kane!” Travis on point as always. Corny Nft’s FTW
That pizza slice should be a square! Also no definitive crust!
Bad blood was my first live wrestling event too! I loved every minute of it. So many great memories with my dad. The legends segment was class. Thank you Jim for helping put together one of the best wrestling shows of all time.
Can we please get jim back in wwe,this man needs to be back in charge of booking,he's a smart man
5:31 🤣 the teeth
it's really cool to hear a lot of the back end stuff, but more so to be reminded of how big a fan you are (were?).
I have not heard the Kevin Dunn impression for a little while. Wahoo!!!
I love how no matter how wacky the artwork is, it all becomes clear by the end
Peak WWF
Love, like the sun that it is, sets afire and melts everything.
- Jos Mart.
This was the first PPV I ever understood as a PPV. (none of that stuff made sense as a lil kid). This PPV made me love the Patriot for some reason.
The first hell in a cell is my favorite match of all time
Upon reading on the match type
On an October 2015 video podcast, Vince Russo said Cornette probably did come up with the concept, but the name Hell in a Cell came from him.
Well at least they work together once lol
Why do I love it so much when Jim makes fun of people?! Is it because he is so good at it?! LoL 😂😂😂
I was a little kid. I will never forget “THATS GOTTA BE KANE! That’s gotta be KANE!”
Debut of my favorite monster Kane! Amazing in your house 🏠
Badd Blood 97 was the first PPV I ever saw live on TV. Came over to a friend's house to watch. I became an instant WWF fan after that event was over.
I'll say it once and I'll say it again. Kevin Dunn is the bucky there is, the bucky there was and the buckiest there ever will be
I come back just to laugh at 5:37
This was the ppv that got my cousin to actually respect wrestling he always thought it was fake etc, well back in the day, we didnt have internet so we would have to rely on a friend to record it for us on a VHS cassette to bring to school on Monday and I remember I got it around thursday so I got to keep it over the weekend and that weekend I showed and he loved hbk vs undertaker. But as a non wrestling fan he would naturally point out the part where it looks fake, mostly the punches. I was older than him and I knew wrestling was fake and I told him the fake prolong the match so they could do other stuff and when he could overlook that, he could have fun. When shawn got thrown off onto a table on the outside my cousin flipped his shit and like was woah! That was awesome. And from there on, he had respected prowrestling it didnt make him a fan but he respected it because I explained to him what prowrestling WAS.
That had to be so awkward for Austin and Owen to work together.
Kevin dunn in the thumbnail always makes me click.
Badd Blood 97 is second best in your house ppv probably beside Blacklash 98.
I Luv That Storyline Of Undertaker Hbk Kane
Sometimes you just have to watch to see what in the world with the thumbnail.
The man holds a grudge like a mountain dwarf
Holds a grudge like a woman
The very first Hell in the Cell match and still the BEST Hell in the Cell match.
They ruined Hell in a cell.
What do you mean ? This was the first one, or are you talking about WWE today ? In that case I agree with you.
@@conniecarroll7222 yes . Today and for the last 10 years or so
They changed it into Mild Discomfort in a Cell.
@@marlondaniels7912 and Micheal Cole screaming Oh my gooood every 2 mins
lets make the cell red!
good idea boss 🤓🤓🤓
lets put safety mats in elimination chamber!
great idea boss 🤓🤓🤓
I watched this on VHS. And I'm pretty sure tbis didn't make the cut.
“FECAL FLECT…”
5:47 😆👈
Hey this was my question
Any picketters show up yet? Lol
@@GreenBayPack Nope lol. I guess I was supposed to use a gimmick name.
@adamparker7769 That's awesome he answered your question. Bad Blood was my first ppv too. Cementing my love of Masked Kane.
@@GreenBayPack I remember bits of pretty much every segment that night even though I was 7 at the time. But I have core memories of the HIAC starting with Undertaker’s entrance. The place went pitch black and I thought Taker was going to come from underneath my chair and pull me down. It’s a great memory and was a great time to be a fan.
Isnt it interesting how a character like Kane was created and he was a big character and was hugely over and you compare that to something similar like The Demon and no one cares and it doesnt have nearly the same impact. Yeah I know the Demon sucked compared to Kane but even if he was great WWE isnt as popular compared to 1997 so it wouldnt have mattered regardless.
I see your Marti Funk and raise you the shirt Charlie Thesz made for Lou that he refed a world title change in.
This was the 1st PPV my mom let me order. It was amazing 👏
I had Emo's pizza. It was on par with Little Caesars. Maybe he had their St. Louis style pizza, and stood out for him?
Little Caesar's wasn't always the Hot n Ready crap. Metro Detroit had some really good spots in the 80s.
He probably doesn't get st. louis pizza where he's from. I know we don't get it here and I'm not too far from where he's from.
They are about 180 degree opposite pizzas
That was funny when cornette impersonating bugs bunny
"I was glad to be there for Glenn's debut" That was Kane's debut not Glenn's
Keeping kayfabe in 2021.
@@danielburger1775 No, just history. Glenn's debut in the Fed was Isaac Yankem, D.D.S
@@SonOfMuta Yes, I know. It was a joke.
In kayfabe, Isaac Yankem and Kane are 2 different people.
@@danielburger1775 You're missing the point. Jim didn't say "Kane", he said "Glenn".
Im surprised Jim didn't try to dropkick Dunn after he said that shitload of fuck
gotta be kane
Era will NEVER be duplicated
IMO’s Pizza is definitely an acquired taste
Its ok man, depends how the store makes it. Sometimes it tastes like cardboard and sometimes not.
I love this podcast but Brian’s been acting really cocky lately about the success of the podcast that I’m happy for as well. Brian needs to be humble for a minute and remember it’s Jim that makes this show relevant
Brian is a tool that needs to go. He has go away heat
"you fecal flecked reptilian piece of shit" ... 10/10
We love Kevin Dunn
Travis...Travis...Travis
Imo's is famous as
THE SQUARE BEYOND COMPARE. A pie cut Imo's pizza slice is an absolute abomination to behold.
wasn't it WWF badd blood at the time? I hate when they do that, retroactively change it, just get it right, it's not hard, it's one little letter, come on, stop being lazy
Using WWF is completely forbidden. Even for older shows.
Edit: I heard that WWF and WWE working on a deal. But now it's forbidden.
Why is Bucky Beaver dressed up like a lizard?
The reptilian image of Kevin Dunn was pure clickbait
1997 Cleveland had the allstar game w the top 75 basketball players ever and only 1 players had passed away pistol pete
You mean top 50 not 75 because the 75th year is this year
I was turned off from watching WWF because of HBK and HHH but I put the blame squarely on shits like Kevin Dunn, Bruce Pritchard and of course Vince for making it so unwatchable and unbearable.
Hmmmmm 👍👍👍👍😍😎😜🤣🤣🤣🤣🙌🙌🙌🙌🤗🤗
I remember that PPV. One of the best I’ve ever seen. HHH vs Michales Hell in a Cell that went for like 47 minutes and broke the record for longest cell match at the time. If I’m not mistaken. It’s been a long time.
Um Undertaker and Michaels
@@kevindouglas5333 ok. I have no idea why I was thinking that was the one, the one I’m thinking of was in 2004. I just Googled it. So I’m guessing if that was Michales vs Undertaker, was that a ladder match and was that the first ever ladder match?
@@ozzybloke-craig3690 Razor and HBK was the first ladder on mania but bret and shawn was the first ladder in the E
HHH vs Michaels? Undertaker vs Michaels in a ladder match? Apparently you don't remember this PPV at all.
@@mikeabel7577 I don’t . I don’t think I’ve ever seen that PPV. And my memory these days is a bit out of whack due to working more. I was just going off what I remember JR saying back in the day that Shawn and Taker had the first ladder match, and I thought that was in 1997, so that’s why I asked that.
😅👍👍
I guess Jim cornette hates Vince Russo cuz they used Russo's ideas and not his
No one should use Russo's "ideas".
@@maxxdahl6062 Not even Dwayne Johnson?
@@danielburger1775 No one. Everything Russo touches turns to shit.
@@maxxdahl6062 That's going a bit overboard, isn't it?
You prefer Rocky Maivia the Blue Chipper to The Rock?
I guess you do...
@@danielburger1775 Tell me what Russo did that Dwayne Johnson wasn't already going to do himself. The ONLY thing he ever told Rock to do that we as fans know of is "be anti social" which doesn't seem like advice that Rock took considering he was in a faction of, you know, other people. lol