Jim Cornette on The NWA Invasion Of WWE In 1998
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2021
- From Episode 176 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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I remember thinking we were about to see Easy E, Dr. Dre and Ice Cube invade WWF
Yeah easy e coming from the grave in 1997
😂😂😂😂
Jim should make some of these thumbnails into t-shirts.
@DimebagVision Good Ol FatBack lol
Would be awesome, but they are using the likeness of these people. For a TH-cam thumbnail that's fine, but as soon as you start making a profit from their likeness (like selling merch with their faces on) then they have the right to be compensated.
For some of these folks that are portrayed in a positive light (like the Rock n Roll/ Midnight Express guys) will probably not have an issue. But people like Kenny Omega, Vince Russo and Ryback will probably not give their consent for their image to be used in this way.
For the record, if it had been me, Jesus, I would say yes!
@SolidSnake I can think of a few names 🤣
Agreed.
They’d make cool stickers for sure.
This one felt like a 25 minute run on sentence
Always does.
Yeah, a lot of nothing in this one.
Picturing Jim living in Connecticut is just weird.
Especially considering Jim is originally from Kentucky and still has his accent.
Fish out of water
Vince killed the rock and roll express when he brought them out to the rockers music .
I was speaking to this kid at one time and he told me that the rockers were first and I just shook my head
The express could come out to lollypop and get it over
@@LegendofTheCosmic7then why did nobody react to them in 93 and 98 during both WWF runs.
@@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 Because most WWF fans are clueless marks, who know nothing about pro wrestling and Vince groomed them into thinking that every other wrestling promotion sucks and wrestlers from those promotions are subpar compared to the "Superstars" of the WWF. Same reason why Flair bombed, when he was introduced as "The real Champion from that other promotion". Fans instantly thought he was crap compared to their heroes.
@@LegendofTheCosmic7no way a good few of the top people in the NWA in that era were getting over because of their entrance music.
I remember this being one of the most confusing storylines in WWE history.
In this angle Jim said something like "We are the real NWA, and this is the official NWA championship. Any organization claiming to trace the lineage of their championship to the NWA championship is lying. As far as we're concerned the WWF and others are outlaw promotions, and soon we'll put all these outlaw promotions back under the control of the NWA."
If they had portrayed them like legitimate threats, I think this angle could've been salvaged. I really like the idea of an old and vengeful empire trying to reclaim its old territory. They could've made the NWA into something like a conspiracy or something, like it turns out X wrestler has been working for the NWA this whole time because they want wrestling to be old school.
Mainstream fans watching wresting didn't take them serious.
@@johns1187 Because they weren't presented as serious from the get go. They had the goddamn NWA World Champion, Dan Severn, and even he they didn't really treat very seriously.
@@johns1187 what lol? NWA was the mainstream for half a century bud.
@@stephenjones1488 Yeah but in 1998 it was the polar opposite of what was happening on WWF television with the likes of the Ministry of Darkness, DX, and shit like that.
@@dankahaner Yeah, if it had happened a few years earlier, before the attitude era it could have worked. By 1998 on the other hand it was kinda obsolete...
I love the cartoon artwork associated with these podcasts.
I need this art as a T-shirt
Days of the week, according to Cornette:
Mondee, tuesdee, wednesdee, thursdee, fridee, saturdee, sundee
History shows, anything heavily involving Jeff Jarret will bomb horribly.
Jim forgot that WCW jobbed out The Rock N Roll Express in 1996.
They jobbed out Flair too.
Jobbed out Roadwarriors too in 96
@@smarkslowplay3512 as they should. Warriors were way past their shelf life at that point.
@@carl5381 half-agree with it. Could have gotten more mileage out of that, but there were other reasons why they had such a short run there
@@smarkslowplay3512 I don't remember the Road Wariiors being jobbed out in WcW in 96. They weren't destroying people but they werent being jobbed out from what I remember. Def nothing compared to the epic burial they'd receive from DX and The Outlaws
Dennis Coralluzzo carried the NWA on his back in the 90s, and ran some of the best shows in the tri state area during that time.
Good times and even better wrestling back then
Wasn't what the tri-state audience wanted at that time. Which is why Dennis hated ECW.
Idk back then they were seen as small-time as small-time can be, I side with Prichard for once on that. Like if GCW suddenly "invaded" WWE now
LOL
Pity the NWA decided that the title going from Flair to Rude was worth throwing away the name & title having a worldwide audience & that running in high school gyms was the way to go.
Having The Rock 'n' Roll Express join Jim Cornette was meaningless to fans who'd only watched WWF because they gave almost no backstory during the angle and insulting to fans who'd watched NWA/WCW because they knew how implausible it was.
I was thinking the same thing when they did this dumb angle, why would the Rock N Roll express have anything to do with their mortal enemy Jim Cornette.
Yeah I thought that was weird to watch. Plus them coming out to the the rockers theme
Artwork inspired me to purchase a Cameo of Cornette throwing up Too Sweet & saying "FA LIFE!"
@LastDropFalls he will soon.
Why? He does so in one of the 98 rants.
th-cam.com/video/Il65bpBgevI/w-d-xo.html
@LastDropFalls Cornette is prepping for this third round of cameos.
@@fuscinula Didn't see it in that clip. You're reaching because you recalled him referencing the NWO
This would have been so good if they somehow got ric flair in 1998 and made this angle
As an avid WWF viewer in the 90s, the NWA invasion was trash. With all due respect to the NWA talent involved, the Raw audience gave ZERO shits about them. Regardless of quality, to the general audience the NWA was a dead brand. With all due respect to the man, no amount of build could have gotten mullet-wearing out-of-shape Ricky Morton over to the WWF audience in 1998.
100% None of us gave a damn.
Think about this, they were ignored in the WWF in 1998 and then debut on AEW in 2019...
@@jayleblanc3598Well yeah, they've become old enough at this point that they're nostalgic. Back in 1998, they were just old. There's a big difference in market potential between being old and nostalgic.
@@cville991 You mean the promotion that is all but dead at this point? Don't get me wrong, I loved the old NWA system and what it represented, but I won't allow my personal feeling to cloud my reasoning. The NWA hasn't been relevant to the mainstream audience since WCW left the NWA.
@@juansanchez209 Obviously it's not going to be what it was in the seventies. But I think their most recent efforts (even during and after the pandemic) have been a vast improvement over the nineties. I'm willing to see what this year holds on store.
I always loved Jeff! That dude was money! Thanks for these clips and I love when Jim answers a question and it takes 2 hours! 😁
LOL. Jeff was money hahahahahahaha you can't be fucking serious.
Gibson’s walleye
😂😂😂
Jim Cornett. I’ve been a biggest fan of yours ever since I was young me and and grand pap never not like your. Storyline my grandfather past now 5 years now . Always got a kick out of you . We could never wait to see what you were going to do!! Thank you for your experience, and being you and bringing us great memories!!!!!!!!
This was creepy as hell 😂
@@staticcharm3808 what was
@@staticcharm3808 Not as creepy as you! stop trolling.
In the voice of Vince McMahon "Goddamn pal, WCW has the NWO but we've got the NWA"
I hated this storyline it seemed bizarre to have a bunch of old dudes "invade"
I wouldn’t put it past Vince to book some thing just to kill it. It’s been well documented by those who were involved that he did the ECW brand as a cash grab and to try and stop people from chanting it in every arena
Rock & Roll Express were in WCW recently before this, so it isn't like they came out of nowhere. They wrestled Flair & Arn on Nitro.
I was at the State College Raw show. It was the last time I would be able to attend a WWF TV event.
The nwa in WWE in 1998 was awesome. I remember one episode of raw they beat up the headbanger's. All of them were great. Barry Windham, Jeff Jarrett and the rock n roll express.
No, it was a total disaster. Pairing the Rn'R Express with their mortal enemy Cornette was retarded and having a "new" Midnight Expresss was idiotic and Jeff Jarrett is still a loser who never drew a dime.
Imagine Corny & Uncle Chael having a convo
I think my head would explode
Travis Heckel is still battin a thousand ⚾
0:11, 0:48 I'll never tire of Corny calling it the WWF. Thanks Jim! 😁👍
I love it. I called it WWF for 17 years and I just can't call it anything else.
@@dhornjr1 We all think of it as the WWF even after the name change!
He's talking about a period of time when it was still the WWF. Of course he's going to call it that.
@@jaydav6521 I know. I just love it when he does that.
I still call it WWWF
Is there a site where I can find the Nate Bash Song This Is Why, which was played at the end of this episode?
😃👍 I'm screenshotting this picture in the video, this artwork is epic!
Damn Travis the artwork is great and hilarious 😂
These thumbnails are just 99,999 ouze gold
The only memorable thing about the NWA gimmick was Jarrett's awesome theme tune.
Content like this is always awesome.
Best things about the angle were:
- Tommy Young working on RAW;
- Jarrett's theme song;
- JR saying on commentary "Bradshaw is fighting the entire NWA!!" (always thought that was funny as hell 😂).
He fought the NWA, then found a best friend in the former black militant Farooq. Long term story telling.
@@InaudibleSlinky its that great "long term" stuff that aew is doing so well at moment.
@@thepublichousebrandcom I'll take your word for it, the only match I saw from them was Dustin/Cody.
@@thepublichousebrandcom lol. You're delusional.
@@DoomKitteh you're a goof it's obviously sarcasm
Not an invasion more like annihilation.
Wooo Hamilton Ontario - I swear my home town has been called up on house show memories at least 3 times in the last month, including the Undertaker mentioning it
There's going to be a Dark Side of The Ring episode on Hamilton's Johnny K-9.
@@quincee3376 oooh nice I’m going to be on the lookout for that,
@@BullyCanadian np.
Woooooo Hello 👋 Hamilton . August 2018 was my last visit for Judas Priest and Deep purple
“Na-Na-national wrestling alliance” *ba wa wa ba wawa ba wawa “f-f-for life”.
Ole Anderson is using his Black Scorpion/Shockmaster voice box to say that.
The following announcement has been paid for by the national wrestling alliance
Idiot
Thank you for sharing!
I love this artwork and the episode
At the RAW in Fresno, The Rock and Roll Express with Jim Cornette as their manager wrestled the Legion of Doom. To my knowledge, that was the only time that match happened. Later that night was the famous Steve Austin Mike Tyson Confrontation.
Love how Vince Russo and Vince McMahon ribbed Cornette with this storyline and Cornette still doesn't understand it was designed to piss him off. Anyone remember that backstage segment from the same time period where McMahon corners Cornette and humiliates him on the air about southern wrasslin?
Lol damn u might be right howcome jim don't see it
Did they ever make shirts like this? I want one!
Well, it was a Sunday! I'm glad he cleared that up.
Just bought the book. Excited to read
Which one?
@@stevengarcia705 hes lying hes too broke to afford to buy anything
@@fatalsniper3413 I feel sorry for his mother
Shoutout to Grant Brookings on the hilarious thumbnail!!
Let's do it again? Have Jim walk out on NXT with Nick Aldis ,Tim storm,Eli drake and the rock and roll express and start a invasion.
Not the RnR express please.
@@Drummer8282 they can just get up to mischief with corny don't need to wrestle lol
Jeff Jarrett was already back in WWF for a few months before the NWA Angle.
That’s J-E double F J-A double R-E double TT. That’s Jeff Jarrett y’all!
You’ve spelled it wrong. It’s GG OO NN EE.
HA-HA
Karen calls him big daddy
It was an awful angle. Could it have been good?....eh. Maybe. But it was truly terrible and if you watch those Raw’s it really didn’t fit in at all with that early attitude era phase.
Great times back then when wrestling was wrestling and not this farce it's become
Another old dude stuck in the past. Wrestling was always silly entertainment. You want real watch UFC
I don't want to hear about no old head wrestling back in the day was the real deal second of all UFC is good but it was better back in the day when you couldn't see it on regular tv so I'm tired of people who are butthurt because there era is weak and sucks trying to have an opinion do your research if you think wrestling is fake tell them to there face and you will find out how real it gets
@@staticcharm3808 Should we watch gymnastics then? Because that's what you're a fan of. You aren't a professional wrestling fan. You're a neckbeard who wishes he wasn't so fat so you could do a roly poly and chant "that was awesome".
Great artwork.
Being Stunnered without retaliation, after only a 3 minute match, was the absolute best utilization of Jarrett throughout his entire career.
Weird coincidence considering I just rewatched the 98 Rumble where Jarrett appeared wearing the NWA North American Title and attacked Owen Hart
Austin stunning Jarrett and mocking his strut after he won the NWA N.A. Championship was the most memorable moment of Jarrett's career.
He broke a thousand guitars and never drew a dime.
Ooooooh, I member.
That was great.
@@kristopherbrown146 he drew a hell of a lot of money out of Vince in order to drop the IC title to Chyna prior to his 1999 departure to WCW
@@doctorrobotnik4209 To be fair, that was money which he was owed as far as I can gather (I can't really blame him for making sure he got it, especially since it was the WWF's own fault it happened; it's not as if they couldn't have had Chyna win the first IC Title match she had with Jeff without a Dusty Finish while promoting the Good Housekeeping Match as a rematch if Jeff resigned).
I wonder if Jim's seen Flair on Kevin Hart's Cold as Ball's internet show last week?
I'm not sure Heckel's depiction of the alignment of Robert Gibson's eyes is entirely accurate.
"Mundy and Sundy"
Wasnt this clip posted last night ? Already listened to it earlier today
Ya it’s in the Shitstain 1 hour clip
Crazy how the guy in the middle look's like Joe Pesci
In a blonde wig
'Jimmy Hollywood' Joe Pesci
I love the slight green tint to the bleached hair...
Jim put over Vince Russo, my ears aren't working right
A broken clock is right twice a day!
That should be thee perfect angle WWE vs NWA . Their top 3 champions ( from both companies ) going against another for bragging rights of which company is supreme.
That thumbnail is bad ass
As Jim often says, everything has to fit. An NWA invasion, especially with mid and lower carders leading it, didn't belong in the WWF's Attitude era.
😆 Travis
5:12
That's been Jeff Jarrett's gimmick for the last 12 years.
"Can you get a bump'n ho for Tuesday in Phoenix?" haha that's why Jim is the leader of The Cult right there!!!
How many times does Jim say Sunday in this video
NWA 4 Life the following presentation has been paid for by the National Wrestling Alliance and Corny cuts an awesome promo
Dude needs to turn these thumbnails into a book havent seen one i didnt like and the likenesses are on point🤘🤘
I loved the NWA in the WWF
I need this NWA T-shirt.
Travis should do t shirts with Corny....make a fortune
The second version of camp cornette lol, I'll have you know
uhm YEAH! That shirt needs to happen!
Beaver Cleavage was a stupid gimmick. Mrs. Cleavage would offer Beaver some of "Mother's milk" when he complained that his cereal was dry. The woman that played Mrs. Cleavage (Marianna Komlos) died from breast cancer in 2004.
We all wanted some of that milk though.
There really is no excuse for Jeff Jarrett's long term friendship with Vince Russo.
You cannot be that blind for that long.
Corny doesn't have days of the week, he has D's of the week
Sun D
Mon D
I live in Fresno
Remember watching this at 17 and thinking it was a good time to switch to Nitro.
The invasion might have actually gotten over if they had used that as the official logo. Those merch shirts would've done gangbusters!
If they tried that at the time, they probably would have gotten sued.
@@user-do2ev2hr7h ECW did it successfully
B.W.O 4-life!
@@smarkslowplay3512 They were small enough to often go under the radar. WWE and WCW took legal action against each other repeatedly in those days.
@@smarkslowplay3512 ECW did it as a parody which is allowed
I was there for the Waco Raw - the only Raw that Waco has ever had, lol.
This whole angle went over like a pisshole in a snowbank.
I can't lie I would've bought a N.W.A. shirt in the nwo logo ..
Send Winkels when Russo has passed NWA was my mma training of martial art style is golden
Man the bleach in a wrestling locker room has to be overwhelming
You give McMahon way too much credit. To me it’s obvious he wanted this to get buried. See: Skinner, Dusty Rhodes in Polka dots The Rebel , the Red rooster , the widow maker and everything else from the south
More watch alongs
I don't even remember this
Sundee and Mondee
Why does Double J look like Greg The Hammer?
or gordon rhamsey
21:08 , Gotta Love Taka.. He should be on WWF/E Hall of Fame.
I like my NWA with ice cubes please
Well the NWA angle was a waste of time especially for Cornette and Jarrett
Bodacious Bart and Bombast Bob!
“Sundey, mondey” bless them suthern boys
The Road Warriors should've been in this faction to provide some muscle
Probably didn't want to turn heel AND I think they got suspended in Feb 98 due to Hawk failing another drug test lol
..an invasion like the isle of Malta.....with baron Miguel Scicluna