Because they are also shooting his blackjack challenge, where you need to be able to shoot 12 shots in just a couple minutes and spotting your own impacts is a requirement. Most of Eric’s shooters shoot in both challenges so it’s understandable that most would like to just shoot one rifle for the day.
I think this should be limited to Hunting rifles only , something you could take into the field. Some of these rifles make the challenge unrealistic. Hunters don’t use PRS fully kitted rifles.
@@ErikCortina I’m sure all can be used for hunting but no PH or hunter is going to carry any of those tracking game in Africa. Just my opinion. Really cool challenge though. Loved watching it.
Shot deer at 550 and 650 both high shoulder and fell on themselves. As a gunsmith I appreciate what you are doing with this and bringing awareness to make people think before taking a crap shot on an animal. Lots of my customers come in after missing deer to have me "re zero" when they haven't shot before season. Makes me sick.
I love to watch the challenge with these high tech guns. The average of hits is low witch is to be expected, but it is called the ethical hunter challenge for a reason. Now lets see the same challenge with only hunting rifles, and the scope of the hunter's choice. I have been hunting for close to 40 years and have never had or would taken a shot past 300 yards. to many things can go wrong, I would rather let the animal walk away than wound it and have it die a painful death. Great videos.
I love these challenges. This shows the argument I’ve been making against “long range hunters” for years. Finally someone is making it public knowledge
I started hunting the flatland of eastern south dakota this year. Im from wyoming and accustomed to taking a little longer shots on things like mule deer and antelope. I ended up taking a nice 155" white tail buck at 329 yards with a .308 using a simple 3-9x40 Nikon scope. My neighbors and some of my family members scoffed at me shooting that far saying it was a "hail mary" shot. Then I learned that from their heated hunting blinds over food plots they think a 100 yard shot is "stretching it" just practice and take your time and you can make ethical shots at 400 yards. I made a clean kill, but was ostracized for shooting over 100 yards. Mind boggling.
EVERY one of those shots, except possibly the last one, are lethal on a deer. You have to realize that not everybody gets to hunt over a feeder with 50 yard shots like in Texas, in Wyoming where I hunt a 500 yard shot is considered close, most shots are in the 700-900 yard range.
@KevinHuff23 im from wyoming as well and have hunted there for 25 years. I guess I don't know what you mean when you say 500 yards is considered close. Elk and antelope are fairly easy to get inside 500 yards.
Judging by the comments, it looks like you've got a market for some more videos like this with limitations in place to make it more realistic in terms of rifle configuration. Cap a short action weight at 10 lbs and long actions to 11 lbs and I bet a series like that would do really well. Cool video!
@@ErikCortina LOL Never said there was and we both know there isn't. Was just tossing an idea out there with people using a more realistic hunting setup, nothing more. We'll just have to agree to disagree on the hunting rifle bit. 🤷♂
I think that'd be an awesome series similar to what texas plinking is doing. Ol' Cortina is just not a personable guy and thinks his stuff don't stink. Just look at his awkward af interviews. After the condescending responses he left here to a VIEWER OF HIS CHANNEL, I think I'll go ahead and unsub
You gotta eat sleep and breath this stuff, if you wanna take game at 500 you better be consistently banging steel at 800 and paying attention to where on the steel you’re actually hitting
@ErikCortina im pretty sure that's his point. We want to see dirt flying hundreds of yards in front of and behind the target. 99% saying "oh that's my argument" would be happy to see the dirt fly in their scope.
My Real point is the gun and ammo manufacturers are telling the ( average ) hunters that they can make these 500 , 600 and 700 hundred yd shots with off the shelf rifles and ammo just to sell these new cartridges and rifles . You have just showed us how difficult it is with state of the art rifles and ammo . To do this with factory rifles and ammo in ( Field ) conditions and many times with a poor or no decent place to rest the rifle making an ethical shot is nearly impossible !……
I am well above an average Joe but well below serious competition guys. I would be willing to give it a go with a real semi typical hunting rifle. My box stock (other than threaded barrel) Savage 110 in 300 WSM slinging 180 accubonds. But even my cheap setup as it sits ready to yeet a boo-lot still is $3000 worth of hardware with scope and suppressor.
IMO, very few people have any business attempting this shot on game, and if they do, they better not have a typical hunting rifle. Typical hunting rifles are not LR hunting rifles.
To be fair most people arent trained. Self taught means you can learn the wrong things and practice the wrong things....im new to this game but i shoot regular guns 10-100yards and when i go out with people who say "they train" some times it looks as if they never shot a gun and they cant hit shit from that distance. Id assume in the long range game its the same lol. Guns is a funny hobby because ANYONE can pull a trigger. So a lot of people think they are good
Man its so weird seeing people struggle at 500 yards with rifles that are so fancy. People say its unethical, well when I go take a rifle with the potential to shoot animals beyond 200 yards, range finder with angle compensation and a ballistic kestrel go with me. And a trued gun to 1100 yards. “You wont have time in the field” says everyone who hasnt watched animals mill around on a mountain side for 10 minutes or eat on a wheat field for 2 hours.
Last two hunts my son has connected on bucks at 380 and 400 yards. Now this is a shot that is in some ways works out a lot better than a 500 yard shot. The difference in difficulty between 400 v 500 goes up a lot more than you would think. To be successful the rifle ammo combination had been verified on several outings at a silhouette range so dial ups had been confirmed at 300m, 385m and 500m. During practice/verification with winds about 5-7 mph I found that first shot success at 385m much better than success at 500m. For our shots my son was on the gun and I was ranging, spotting, calling wind corrections and advising dial-ups. Both times he was dead on target and I stayed on glass as he hiked out to his downed game. The 500 yard challenge, cold bore, 1 MOA is a legit and proper challeng, to make shots that far takes a well co-ordinated team that is experienced and dialed in.
Agreed. At 500 yds the bullet will typically drop twice as much and more, then it does at 400 yds. Really makes you think what it does at 600, 700, 800 yds. Guys are taking this shots at game. They never seem to show us those videos of wounded elk and antelope running away to die a slow death. It gives anti hunters more fuel to ban hunting.
I competed at this year's Quigley Buffalo Rifle Match; I shot somewhere around 550 rounds in practice and preparation. In retrospect, I should have practiced at least twice as much. For me, practice and preparation was essential, I also felt more confident on the line.
I shoot 600 and 1000 yard f class, club matches and some bigger matches, I shoot a match at least once a month, I would not take a 500 yard shot on a deer. Not with a hunting rifle and hunting ammo in field conditions. 300 yards would be an absolute max distance.
I know a lot of people have suggested using more realistic 'hunting rifles', but I think a fun variation on that would be to have a contest at 250 yards using LEVER ACTION rifles and a 5 inch (2 MOA) zone. That would approximate Midwest USA hunters aspire to do (and most of us cannot).
Before I would let him hunt, I made my son jog 50-100 yards to simulate buck fever, and make a shot within 5 seconds to simulate when a deer pauses to eat or sniff the wind. His shots have to be on an 8” plate. In general, we wait for 100 yard shots, but might go out to 150 if everything is ideal. As mentioned in the video, several of the shots were solid kills but not within the 1 moa limit. I’d like to see it repeated with typical (even budget) hunting rifles/calibers and the kill zone expanded to 8x10”.
The biggest thing learning wind calls and plenty of practice. It takes a lot of experience and training to make such shots on game. I personally wouldn't make a shot like that myself. Even with competition rigs, it all comes down to the individual. I definitely enjoy watching these. In the hunting world the kill zone for a deer is a pie plate. At 500 yards that is a very small area to make an ethical harvest. Also too in the hunting world ammunition is a factor too. You use bullets designed for hunting. Hunting bullets don't always deliver match grade accuracy especially factory ammunition. Hunters in the field typically carry factory rifles with factory ammunition. That right there is a big handicap. You are limited by your equipment and yourself. Realistically an individual that utilizes factory equipment should only engage game inside 300. The beauty with using custom competition components is that it takes most of the mechanical aspects of error out of the equation. Yet it still comes down to the individual.
I love this challenge but I would like to see real hunting rifles doing this challenge like my 1972 ruger m77 7mm Remington magnum or something like it
@ErikCortina I would love to try it. I just think that how everyone saying it's easy is full of smoke because the rifles people are bringing to your challenge are most definitely not typical hunting rifles and they're having trouble making a clean kill shot. So the off the shelf typical hunting rifles would be far more challenging IMO.
@@johnlewis9582So bring it. Judging from many of the comments, we’d all like to see more hunting rifles. You wouldn’t be competing against them, only yourself. I wish I was closer, I’d like to try it with my hunting rifle too.
@HoffnerPrecision I'd love to but I'm in Iowa and don't have any spare time until after spring although if Mr Cortina is still doing this challenge I'll try to set up a date to show off my grandpa's rifle and my lack of precision lol
Looks like a lot of fun, I do a similar thing at my farm in the winter after the crops are off. Cold bore first shot is very interesting, I've left the gun and ammo outside a few hours and first shot cold bore at -20 is always interesting;)
This challenge is fun to watch. Thanks Erik. I practice shooting 500 yards often but I shoot milk jugs. Yeah a little bigger than moa but not much. It’s the kill zone of a deer. Tikka T3x light with a muzzle break and reload 185 grn Bergers. Yes it would be hard to hit the moa target without wind call. I am picking and will not shoot past 300 at an animal unless there’s no wind.
These rifles are perfectly fine to hunt with if blind or ambush hunting like if you're calling in a moose during the rut. Would never take one barrenground caribou hunting in -30C or colder, or having to trek through thick Boreal Forrest in Northern Canada. Pretty rare to have to take a 500yrd poke in these parts unless you're shooting across a small lake, or open tundra, but then you're dealing with extreme wind conditions and crazy atmospheric conditions from air density in extreme cold. No one is gonna hold up a kestrel in those temps, if it would even operate. Vehicles don't even wanna run in those temps and we get colder than that in march/April when you have access via the ice roads to the diamond mines to get to where the caribou are.
@batmantiss we don't have laws like that here in Canada. We don't even have a law regarding shooting light where I'm at, just no jack lighting. But somehow, we ban mauser action hunting rifles( like 60% of the patterns), shotgun bores above 20mm( a modified choke is 19mm in a 12GA, limit to 5 rounds in semiautomatic rifles for magazines and no suppressors. Lol
@@ErikCortina idaho has some STRANGE hunting regs regarding weapons. Their logic is, most of the tactical rifles START at 16 lbs. They don't want fat lazy "heros" taking shots across canyons they have zero business attempting, just to say "screw it" and waste game
If you can carry it, you can hunt with it, although some are more unrealistic than others. Since most comments are saying these aren’t hunting rifles and should have limitations, as an alternative, move the target to 300 yards, keep 1 moa center, and place rifle limitations. The chances of what most call a typical hunting rifle performing this at 500 are slim. In reality would be better just to put a total cost limit 😂, that would be interesting actually
This really shows that most people shouldn’t attempt shots that far when hunting, wishing you and your family a very merry Christmas and a safe and happy new year mate, cheers Yogi ✌️
Thanks again for demonstrating folks shouldn’t be shooting at distance. Known distance, super rifles, lots of wounded creatures that deserve better. This should, perhaps, be called the road hunter challenge.
3 out of 7 had a dead Deer 4 had it badly wounded and that with specializied Rifles so guys pls be ethical with your Shots on Game see to get closer as a big Part of the Challange!! As a good Austrian Friend in the Alps allways said if we cant get under 300 Meters better under 250 we dont deserve to take the Game we want, he guided hundreds of Hunters for Chamois and Red Stag and most of the Time he had Success.
@josephcoffman2441 there is allways really allways a way to get closer i hunted at many different Locations from the Austrian Alps to the Scotish Highlands and all in beetween including the treeless flat Farmlands in Northeastern Germany
If we want to be real here, none of these shots were ethical. The most important factor in all of this is bullet construction. Every bullet used by these guys was designed for match shooting with little to no design attention paid to terminal performance. These bullets use thin jackets, soft cores and multitudes of different hollow point/open tip designs. They delaminate and do not penetrative adequately to ensure ethical kills on medium/large game animals. Predator hunting/varmint hunting is the only killing those designs of bullets are meant to do. I understand this has no equipment restrictions, and is an exercise in cold bore shot making ability, not true hunting ethics. But a secondary series with equipment restrictions in respect to bullet construction and rifle layouts would be very interesting. If you shoot off a bag, bring your bag. If you shoot off a bipod, bring your bidpod. Bring your fancy match rifle, who cares. People hunt from blinds all the time, where a 30lb rifle would not be a massive problem. But you have to be shooting a bullet that is designed for the game in question. Hunting bullets. I wanna see some ABLRs, some barnes LRXs, TTSXs, terminal ascents, etc. hell, maybe some good ol hornady interlocks if someone is feeling nostalgic. If we want to call it the ethical hunting challenge, let's make it as ethical as we can.
@@kaseyowens3065 if they hit a deer in the spot that is cut out on that silhouette target, even if the bullet still only has the velocity and energy of a 22 lr at 25 yards, they will have a dead deer...it may run out of sight, as it could if hit by a 300 mag with a bonded bullet, but it will die.
Many people are missing the point about the competition rifles, the point of this challenge is to illustrate how difficult it is, even with the best equipment and under the best circumstances, to make this kind of shot. If you can’t make it happen with a competition setup and no time limit, then you know for sure it’s unethical to attempt it in the real world with a lightweight hunting rifle. Obviously keeping in consideration that the kill-zone on a real deer or elk is larger than one moa.
10:22 I agree with you, to make this shot (consistently) training, practicing, and experience. None of these rifles I would ever hunt with, for this video I’ll take my $900 7mag over these high dollar paper weights everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. I also have a few sets of antlers on the wall that were taken beyond 500 yards. Bottom line technology advancements in the shooting industry overcompensates individuals for actual skills.
Texas deer blind hunting I use very heavy rifle, I’m only carrying it 60 yards to the deer blind from my pick, heavy rifle once you put it on a sandbag out the window it ain’t going anywhere and is extremely steady.
Ethical Hunter challenge and since the first episode I've yet to see one "hunting" rifle used in the challenge. Who takes a shot in the field in the prone position and has 20 minutes to get ready to take the shot ? Merry Christmas
Always enjoy seeing your new videos Eric and this one is no exception! Makes me want to practice more that's for sure! Like others have said, it'd be cool to see actual hunting rifles entered in this. Merry Christmas to you and yours Eric, keep up the great work! 😊🎅🎅👍👍
I was considering the difficulty of this in my head and realized that if you have a gun that is shooting 2" groups at 500 yards, you are missing if your windage is off be any more than 2 inches. And that is only if your elevation is dead on. You might be better off with a less accurate rifle because at least then you have a chance to get lucky when you blow your wind hold.
The successful outcome of any shot at any distance with any caliber from any rifle is never predetermined or guaranteed. The success, (“kill”) is purely probabilistic based on controlling known variables and mitigating unknowns. Sending any projectile across, (any) space and over any amount of time is an equation that we’re only able to calculate a potential, desired outcome. I hunt and came to terms long ago that “Ethical hunting” is just a euphemism to placate my conscience. When you pull a trigger, you have ZERO certainty of the outcome until the round has stopped moving. An inconvenient truth.
What I appreciate about this challenge is that it’s getting people like me to think, “Should I try a shot like that, if guys with nice heavy rigs aren’t hitting that often?” Me (like many) have a factory 8-9 lb. rifle that shoots sub-Moa on a good day. I definitely will be bringing my shots back to sub-400 yrds for now.
@@sthomsen86 practice is what important here. For the wind and know your rifle. You don’t need a tank of a gun to do this. It’s about knowing the wind. Reloading helps immensely do to the consistency of the rounds. Not saying I can make the shot. I have taken more than 5 deer at 500 yards with a single shot. Key factors no wind!! I will not shoot past 300 if is windy. My rifle is 7.7 lbs tikka 300 wm custom loads and a break.
4 years ago in Colorado I hit a Cow Elk at 512 yds with a Savage 110 Tactical 308 shooting Hornady Superformance 150gr SST. Cant say it was a 1 MOA shot but it was a cold bore kill shot that dropped the Elk instantly. Most shots in the area are 175-350 yds as it is a open area.
“Hey, this is Eric Cortina, we’re having an ethical Hunter Challenge, would you like to come be a contestant?” “That sounds great Eric, can I bring my THIRTY POUND .308???”
I made an ethical 100 yard ear hole shot on a pig this evening with a scoped CZ 527 6.5 Grendel that's probably under 8lbs. Cold bore, i had'nt shot the gun in 4 years, now i feel like i can do this challange! Erik are you still outoff of 181?
Anatoly would call them rifles lightweight He carries a mop a lot heavier. 😂 If i was starving to death, I'd try the shot. Otherwise, let it be. Merry Christmas, Eric, and thanks for the educational videos I really enjoyed watching.
My wife made an incredible 400 yard shot on her buck this year we spent alot of time practicing but one of tge big things is where we hunt during deer season there is little to no wind if there was a decent breeze that day she would not have taken the shot
Gidday from down in New Zealand, where I'm Range Director for our local shooting club. We shoot your Ethical hunter challenge with a slight twist to suit our range, we use a 6" gong in our deer silhouette at 625 yards. We've run it 3 times this season with 12 shooters attempting it, all with true hunting weight rifles (they must be under 12 lbs), for two hits, one of which was mine so is discounted a bit as the buck fever subsides somewhat as you watch other guys attempt it. Incidentally both hits with 6mm CM. We are also running your Blackjack Challenge this season and the guys are really enjoying it too. Thanks
My problem with these long range hunters that come to Colorado is a 700 yard shot at an animal might entail a 25 minute trudge down the ridge and up the other side to check for blood. How many will make that walk if they "Miss" with their heavy barreled rifle in tow? How many look at that long walk through downed trees and deep snow and say to themselves "I'm sure I missed I saw it run off" and leave a gut shot animal to it's slow painful death?
All these are shooting 15=20 lb rifles off shooting mats and no chance to the target moving and perfect field of fire, this is definitely the series that shows how few people should shoot at a live animal at 500 yards
Hi. This is great. I really like the concept. Have you given thought to angles of engagement? You could turn the target 30-45* with maybe a four inch tall and eight inch wide oval? What about like, the shooter who hit a shoulder? Do they get a follow up? Not to condone the notion, but.. some hunters(hammer bullets shares randomly) will purposely use larger cartridges with two shots. Mind you these guys are using really fast, all copper bullets. The way it reads it, many guys taking large game engage with "shoulder" followed by another to keep a downed animal from getting up. I rarely hunt anymore however, my experience is almost never having a squared up shot. Having spacial awareness as the shot "ideally"passes through (which usually results in the bullet grenading or pinballing inside)
I see a lot of talented mid-range target shooters here but not hunters. These are not hunters, they are target shooters. Hunting is stalking to see how close you can make the kill.
One day I’d love to do this challenge out there. With my actual hunting rifle and hunting load. I really absolutely would not stretch that past 400 even unless the conditions were dead calm. Luckily my gun has next to no cold bore shift. There’s a lot of guns that I would not take a long shot with because of Cold bore shift.
I agree with other commenters. Use “off the rack” hunting rifles not target chassis rifles. Plus it would help to have no bipod and make the shooter jog 100 yards before settling in to take the shot.
Merry Christmas to you and yours Erik. After reading through all the comments regarding hunting rifles...made it think, isn't your Solus 6.5 Creedmoor basically a hunting rifle? I mean it is in a hunter stock or chassis, not balancing weights that I saw and only an adjustable trigger (have one on my Winchester Model 70 in .270) with a Tuner Brake and a bipod. I know a couple three people who tried this shot with that rifle without even using the bipod, lol😉.
@ Not at all. I appreciate the education that you’re giving would be hunters. What I’m saying is the industry has to keep selling, so they’re selling inferior hunting calibers. This ridiculous mantra, “yeah, but my slow high BC bullet catches your bla bla bla at 1000 yds” is meaningless in hunting.
When friends and family come to hunt with me I like to take them out to double check their zero. 95% can not shoot a 12" group at 300 yards. Most miss completly at 300 yards with your average hunting rifle. I find most people should not shoot from a standing position even at 25 yards. Most can shoot from a rested position out to about 250ish after that most "badass" hunters can't hit shit. I missed a coyote this week at 100yards so I am included!!
In the discussion after the shot with the shooter, I'd be curious to hear what MOA these rifles typically shoot at 100. That would be in baseline for the average Joe to compare.
Dang, I can hit steel plates with a youth model savage axis II 7/08 and a 3x9x50 Nikon at 600 yards. Guess I could be the next world record shooter with a 20k, 30 lb rifle.
My ADD is too strong to get into the long range shooting and I dang sure can't bring myself to spend that much on a one trick pony gun. However, that deer target is bad ass.
I think it’s the suppressor. Never hold the barrel straight up with a suppressor can on, a lot of chimney soot rains down in the barrel. People either forget or don’t realise this. It’ll throw shots like he did.
There are four bolts holding the deer on Tee posts. When the bullet splatters, it hits the bolt heads and knocks the paint off of them. That’s why you see more than one “impact” on the deer.
@ not necessarily. I’d like to see some shooters take shots like these with a stock hunting rifle, a mid price scope and maybe even with factory ammo. I saw one video where a guide shoots 20 rounds at 20 milk jugs at ranges from 100-600 yds with a Tikka .300 WM. I think he hit 16/20 shots. Have some shooters range, estimate and shoot a course like that. Would be fun to watch.
Would a hunting rifle with compareable accuracy really make that much of a difference when shooting from prone and spotting your impacts is irrelavant? I think this is way more about making the right wind call and having an accurate cold bore shot.
I hope people watch this and realize that people with competition guns are missing. Your average hunter shouldn’t be shooting this far with their Jonny Morris edition package rifle.
The awkward interview after a miss is my favorite part of this challenge 😂
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"Would you take that shot?" "With my 6.5 PRC I would"
Well why didn't you bring that rifle instead? 😂
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Because they are also shooting his blackjack challenge, where you need to be able to shoot 12 shots in just a couple minutes and spotting your own impacts is a requirement. Most of Eric’s shooters shoot in both challenges so it’s understandable that most would like to just shoot one rifle for the day.
Only hunting for this challenge!!
Bring a second rifle if doing the Blackjack..
I think this should be limited to Hunting rifles only , something you could take into the field. Some of these rifles make the challenge unrealistic. Hunters don’t use PRS fully kitted rifles.
I do, it’s 22.5 pounds.
I was thinking the same thing. It was still fun to watch! I was impressed by Rachel, who doesn't compete or hunt, outshooting competition shooters.
All rifles are hunting rifles.
I agree, people may try to claim that 22lbs is a hunting rifle. I'd love to see them take it on a backcountry elk hunt.
@@ErikCortina I’m sure all can be used for hunting but no PH or hunter is going to carry any of those tracking game in Africa. Just my opinion. Really cool challenge though. Loved watching it.
Shot deer at 550 and 650 both high shoulder and fell on themselves. As a gunsmith I appreciate what you are doing with this and bringing awareness to make people think before taking a crap shot on an animal. Lots of my customers come in after missing deer to have me "re zero" when they haven't shot before season. Makes me sick.
It's not just about the shot, it's about the whole process.
It's already a hard shot but with a 8 mph wind makes it even harder. But I love it....thanks Eric that was awesome.
Wind is the most unpredictable variable in the field.
I love this series, it's where egos come to die and ethical hunters are born.
Well said!
I love to watch the challenge with these high tech guns. The average of hits is low witch is to be expected, but it is called the ethical hunter challenge for a reason. Now lets see the same challenge with only hunting rifles, and the scope of the hunter's choice. I have been hunting for close to 40 years and have never had or would taken a shot past 300 yards. to many things can go wrong, I would rather let the animal walk away than wound it and have it die a painful death.
Great videos.
Don’t forget they would have to make that target bigger to like 14” not 5” to be realistic
@@Vidasalvaje-de-Joseleon true but most of those shots that missed were straight up gut shots.
I love these challenges. This shows the argument I’ve been making against “long range hunters” for years. Finally someone is making it public knowledge
On deer you have more than 5” of lethal zone, it’s more like 12 to 16” at 500yards it gets bigger for elk like 20”.
@@Vidasalvaje-de-Joseleon exactly!
I started hunting the flatland of eastern south dakota this year. Im from wyoming and accustomed to taking a little longer shots on things like mule deer and antelope. I ended up taking a nice 155" white tail buck at 329 yards with a .308 using a simple 3-9x40 Nikon scope. My neighbors and some of my family members scoffed at me shooting that far saying it was a "hail mary" shot. Then I learned that from their heated hunting blinds over food plots they think a 100 yard shot is "stretching it" just practice and take your time and you can make ethical shots at 400 yards. I made a clean kill, but was ostracized for shooting over 100 yards. Mind boggling.
EVERY one of those shots, except possibly the last one, are lethal on a deer. You have to realize that not everybody gets to hunt over a feeder with 50 yard shots like in Texas, in Wyoming where I hunt a 500 yard shot is considered close, most shots are in the 700-900 yard range.
@KevinHuff23 im from wyoming as well and have hunted there for 25 years. I guess I don't know what you mean when you say 500 yards is considered close. Elk and antelope are fairly easy to get inside 500 yards.
Awesome, thank you. Looks like a lot of fun. Kudos to all that made an effort. That wind is a killer.
Judging by the comments, it looks like you've got a market for some more videos like this with limitations in place to make it more realistic in terms of rifle configuration. Cap a short action weight at 10 lbs and long actions to 11 lbs and I bet a series like that would do really well. Cool video!
The point is to show how difficult this shot really is. If it can’t be done with competition rifles, hunting rifles have zero business attempting it.
I understand that, but this challenge with hunting rifles is way more compelling.
These were hunting rifles IMO. There is no weight limit for a hunting rifle in TX AFAIK. 🤷♂️
@@ErikCortina LOL Never said there was and we both know there isn't. Was just tossing an idea out there with people using a more realistic hunting setup, nothing more. We'll just have to agree to disagree on the hunting rifle bit. 🤷♂
I think that'd be an awesome series similar to what texas plinking is doing. Ol' Cortina is just not a personable guy and thinks his stuff don't stink. Just look at his awkward af interviews. After the condescending responses he left here to a VIEWER OF HIS CHANNEL, I think I'll go ahead and unsub
Outside of having Speedy on, this is your best entertaining video that you have made! Thank you Eric
I’m glad you enjoyed it!
It does show you practice, practice, practice before heading out and trying a shot at that distance on a live animal. Great challenge!
That is exactly the point. Practice is essential.
You gotta eat sleep and breath this stuff, if you wanna take game at 500 you better be consistently banging steel at 800 and paying attention to where on the steel you’re actually hitting
Thanks Eric for this , would like to see this challenge again with off the shelf rifles and factory ammo and the average hunter !
Avery hunters and setups should never be used for this shot IMO.
@ErikCortina im pretty sure that's his point. We want to see dirt flying hundreds of yards in front of and behind the target. 99% saying "oh that's my argument" would be happy to see the dirt fly in their scope.
Exactly !…..
My Real point is the gun and ammo manufacturers are telling the ( average ) hunters that they can make these 500 , 600 and 700 hundred yd shots with off the shelf rifles and ammo just to sell these new cartridges and rifles . You have just showed us how difficult it is with state of the art rifles and ammo . To do this with factory rifles and ammo in ( Field ) conditions and many times with a poor or no decent place to rest the rifle making an ethical shot is nearly impossible !……
Early Christmas present for us ty Eric Cortina
Happy holidays!
30% hit rate with 100% still target using trained people with ridiculous guns. I'd really like to see where average Joes land.
All over the map
I am well above an average Joe but well below serious competition guys. I would be willing to give it a go with a real semi typical hunting rifle. My box stock (other than threaded barrel) Savage 110 in 300 WSM slinging 180 accubonds. But even my cheap setup as it sits ready to yeet a boo-lot still is $3000 worth of hardware with scope and suppressor.
IMO, very few people have any business attempting this shot on game, and if they do, they better not have a typical hunting rifle. Typical hunting rifles are not LR hunting rifles.
To be fair most people arent trained. Self taught means you can learn the wrong things and practice the wrong things....im new to this game but i shoot regular guns 10-100yards and when i go out with people who say "they train" some times it looks as if they never shot a gun and they cant hit shit from that distance. Id assume in the long range game its the same lol.
Guns is a funny hobby because ANYONE can pull a trigger. So a lot of people think they are good
Man its so weird seeing people struggle at 500 yards with rifles that are so fancy. People say its unethical, well when I go take a rifle with the potential to shoot animals beyond 200 yards, range finder with angle compensation and a ballistic kestrel go with me. And a trued gun to 1100 yards. “You wont have time in the field” says everyone who hasnt watched animals mill around on a mountain side for 10 minutes or eat on a wheat field for 2 hours.
Last two hunts my son has connected on bucks at 380 and 400 yards. Now this is a shot that is in some ways works out a lot better than a 500 yard shot. The difference in difficulty between 400 v 500 goes up a lot more than you would think. To be successful the rifle ammo combination had been verified on several outings at a silhouette range so dial ups had been confirmed at 300m, 385m and 500m. During practice/verification with winds about 5-7 mph I found that first shot success at 385m much better than success at 500m. For our shots my son was on the gun and I was ranging, spotting, calling wind corrections and advising dial-ups. Both times he was dead on target and I stayed on glass as he hiked out to his downed game. The 500 yard challenge, cold bore, 1 MOA is a legit and proper challeng, to make shots that far takes a well co-ordinated team that is experienced and dialed in.
Agreed. At 500 yds the bullet will typically drop twice as much and more, then it does at 400 yds.
Really makes you think what it does at 600, 700, 800 yds. Guys are taking this shots at game. They never seem to show us those videos of wounded elk and antelope running away to die a slow death. It gives anti hunters more fuel to ban hunting.
I competed at this year's Quigley Buffalo Rifle Match; I shot somewhere around 550 rounds in practice and preparation. In retrospect, I should have practiced at least twice as much. For me, practice and preparation was essential, I also felt more confident on the line.
Thanks Erik. I enjoy watching this format.
Glad you like it!
Really enjoy this series, I'd like to see a 1000$ and under rifle challenge. Just think it would be fun I'd even give it a shot lol.
That would be tough, but maybe.
Thanks Eric. Your best video I have seen.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Merry Christmas Eric & Family!
Merry Christmas to you too!
13:30 Yup, that´s a Bergara allright.
I shoot 600 and 1000 yard f class, club matches and some bigger matches, I shoot a match at least once a month, I would not take a 500 yard shot on a deer. Not with a hunting rifle and hunting ammo in field conditions. 300 yards would be an absolute max distance.
Agreed.
In perfect conditions too.
Thank you for your honesty, seems like every other hunter thinks he is a sniper.
I know a lot of people have suggested using more realistic 'hunting rifles', but I think a fun variation on that would be to have a contest at 250 yards using LEVER ACTION rifles and a 5 inch (2 MOA) zone. That would approximate Midwest USA hunters aspire to do (and most of us cannot).
I like this challenge. Cold bore is all that really matters.
Most people don't understand how difficult it is to shoot one moa at long range. Kudos to the lady!
Indeed. She did well.
Before I would let him hunt, I made my son jog 50-100 yards to simulate buck fever, and make a shot within 5 seconds to simulate when a deer pauses to eat or sniff the wind. His shots have to be on an 8” plate. In general, we wait for 100 yard shots, but might go out to 150 if everything is ideal. As mentioned in the video, several of the shots were solid kills but not within the 1 moa limit. I’d like to see it repeated with typical (even budget) hunting rifles/calibers and the kill zone expanded to 8x10”.
Forgot to mention that it is a great demonstration!
If they can’t hit it with target rifles, hunting rifles do not stand a chance.
@@ErikCortina After they miss at 500, let them try at 400 yards to show how much better the closer shot is.
@@ErikCortina And no discussion on the wind!
The biggest thing learning wind calls and plenty of practice. It takes a lot of experience and training to make such shots on game. I personally wouldn't make a shot like that myself. Even with competition rigs, it all comes down to the individual. I definitely enjoy watching these. In the hunting world the kill zone for a deer is a pie plate. At 500 yards that is a very small area to make an ethical harvest. Also too in the hunting world ammunition is a factor too. You use bullets designed for hunting. Hunting bullets don't always deliver match grade accuracy especially factory ammunition. Hunters in the field typically carry factory rifles with factory ammunition. That right there is a big handicap. You are limited by your equipment and yourself. Realistically an individual that utilizes factory equipment should only engage game inside 300. The beauty with using custom competition components is that it takes most of the mechanical aspects of error out of the equation. Yet it still comes down to the individual.
As an Aussie Sambar hunter I love this. A little reality can go a longgg way.
Rachel was on the podium in my book. Awsome!
I love this challenge but I would like to see real hunting rifles doing this challenge like my 1972 ruger m77 7mm Remington magnum or something like it
Ok, bring it! 😁
@ErikCortina I would love to try it. I just think that how everyone saying it's easy is full of smoke because the rifles people are bringing to your challenge are most definitely not typical hunting rifles and they're having trouble making a clean kill shot. So the off the shelf typical hunting rifles would be far more challenging IMO.
@@johnlewis9582So bring it. Judging from many of the comments, we’d all like to see more hunting rifles. You wouldn’t be competing against them, only yourself. I wish I was closer, I’d like to try it with my hunting rifle too.
@HoffnerPrecision I'd love to but I'm in Iowa and don't have any spare time until after spring although if Mr Cortina is still doing this challenge I'll try to set up a date to show off my grandpa's rifle and my lack of precision lol
In all seriousness I will try late spring early summer to set up a time to try my luck
I'd love to see someone show up with a bone stock hunting rifle try that. Not a 25-30 lb artillery piece
Bring yours. :)
@ErikCortina I'd love to not sure about how to cross the border with a gun though...
Looks like a lot of fun, I do a similar thing at my farm in the winter after the crops are off. Cold bore first shot is very interesting, I've left the gun and ammo outside a few hours and first shot cold bore at -20 is always interesting;)
I bet that first shot is very interesting!
This challenge is fun to watch. Thanks Erik. I practice shooting 500 yards often but I shoot milk jugs. Yeah a little bigger than moa but not much. It’s the kill zone of a deer. Tikka T3x light with a muzzle break and reload 185 grn Bergers. Yes it would be hard to hit the moa target without wind call. I am picking and will not shoot past 300 at an animal unless there’s no wind.
You are doing it right!
I get the no equipment limitation as it proves a point. However letting the challengers discuss windage seems to defeat the purpose.
BINGO. This video had all the ingredients to be a good one but that part you mentioned makes it lose credibility
This is a great challenge. Appreciate the work
Thank you for the great info you put out on YT!
You're welcome.
These rifles are perfectly fine to hunt with if blind or ambush hunting like if you're calling in a moose during the rut. Would never take one barrenground caribou hunting in -30C or colder, or having to trek through thick Boreal Forrest in Northern Canada.
Pretty rare to have to take a 500yrd poke in these parts unless you're shooting across a small lake, or open tundra, but then you're dealing with extreme wind conditions and crazy atmospheric conditions from air density in extreme cold. No one is gonna hold up a kestrel in those temps, if it would even operate. Vehicles don't even wanna run in those temps and we get colder than that in march/April when you have access via the ice roads to the diamond mines to get to where the caribou are.
Idaho law says your (big game) rifle, soup-to-nuts, may not exceed 16 lbs
@batmantiss we don't have laws like that here in Canada. We don't even have a law regarding shooting light where I'm at, just no jack lighting. But somehow, we ban mauser action hunting rifles( like 60% of the patterns), shotgun bores above 20mm( a modified choke is 19mm in a 12GA, limit to 5 rounds in semiautomatic rifles for magazines and no suppressors. Lol
I don’t understand the weight restrictions for hunting. Makes no sense.
@@ErikCortina idaho has some STRANGE hunting regs regarding weapons. Their logic is, most of the tactical rifles START at 16 lbs. They don't want fat lazy "heros" taking shots across canyons they have zero business attempting, just to say "screw it" and waste game
If you can carry it, you can hunt with it, although some are more unrealistic than others. Since most comments are saying these aren’t hunting rifles and should have limitations, as an alternative, move the target to 300 yards, keep 1 moa center, and place rifle limitations. The chances of what most call a typical hunting rifle performing this at 500 are slim. In reality would be better just to put a total cost limit 😂, that would be interesting actually
Nah, run what you brung.
Cortina has zero interest in what us peasants want to see
This really shows that most people shouldn’t attempt shots that far when hunting, wishing you and your family a very merry Christmas and a safe and happy new year mate, cheers Yogi ✌️
Merry Christmas
Thanks again for demonstrating folks shouldn’t be shooting at distance.
Known distance, super rifles, lots of wounded creatures that deserve better.
This should, perhaps, be called the road hunter challenge.
3 out of 7 had a dead Deer 4 had it badly wounded and that with specializied Rifles so guys pls be ethical with your Shots on Game see to get closer as a big Part of the Challange!! As a good Austrian Friend in the Alps allways said if we cant get under 300 Meters better under 250 we dont deserve to take the Game we want, he guided hundreds of Hunters for Chamois and Red Stag and most of the Time he had Success.
Honestly, if it see a drop-tine deer like that on a hunt and I can't get any closer, I'm giving it a go at 1200 yards
Gee Dad thanks!
@josephcoffman2441 there is allways really allways a way to get closer i hunted at many different Locations from the Austrian Alps to the Scotish Highlands and all in beetween including the treeless flat Farmlands in Northeastern Germany
If we want to be real here, none of these shots were ethical. The most important factor in all of this is bullet construction. Every bullet used by these guys was designed for match shooting with little to no design attention paid to terminal performance. These bullets use thin jackets, soft cores and multitudes of different hollow point/open tip designs. They delaminate and do not penetrative adequately to ensure ethical kills on medium/large game animals. Predator hunting/varmint hunting is the only killing those designs of bullets are meant to do. I understand this has no equipment restrictions, and is an exercise in cold bore shot making ability, not true hunting ethics. But a secondary series with equipment restrictions in respect to bullet construction and rifle layouts would be very interesting.
If you shoot off a bag, bring your bag. If you shoot off a bipod, bring your bidpod. Bring your fancy match rifle, who cares. People hunt from blinds all the time, where a 30lb rifle would not be a massive problem. But you have to be shooting a bullet that is designed for the game in question. Hunting bullets. I wanna see some ABLRs, some barnes LRXs, TTSXs, terminal ascents, etc. hell, maybe some good ol hornady interlocks if someone is feeling nostalgic. If we want to call it the ethical hunting challenge, let's make it as ethical as we can.
@@kaseyowens3065 if they hit a deer in the spot that is cut out on that silhouette target, even if the bullet still only has the velocity and energy of a 22 lr at 25 yards, they will have a dead deer...it may run out of sight, as it could if hit by a 300 mag with a bonded bullet, but it will die.
Many people are missing the point about the competition rifles, the point of this challenge is to illustrate how difficult it is, even with the best equipment and under the best circumstances, to make this kind of shot. If you can’t make it happen with a competition setup and no time limit, then you know for sure it’s unethical to attempt it in the real world with a lightweight hunting rifle. Obviously keeping in consideration that the kill-zone on a real deer or elk is larger than one moa.
100%
Merry Christmas to you & your family, Erik!!
Merry Christmas
10:22 I agree with you, to make this shot (consistently) training, practicing, and experience.
None of these rifles I would ever hunt with, for this video I’ll take my $900 7mag over these high dollar paper weights everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
I also have a few sets of antlers on the wall that were taken beyond 500 yards.
Bottom line technology advancements in the shooting industry overcompensates individuals for actual skills.
Watching this makes me wonder why them 2 hunters where fighting over a deer or whatever it was that was 700 yrds out last yr that’s just craziness.
Yep.
@@ErikCortina if I was a betting man I’d say that’s where this idea came from
Texas deer blind hunting I use very heavy rifle, I’m only carrying it 60 yards to the deer blind from my pick, heavy rifle once you put it on a sandbag out the window it ain’t going anywhere and is extremely steady.
As an addition to this series, you should do an interview with Nathan Foster.
Thanks for the entertainment , and merry Christmas.
Who’s Nathan Foster?
Ethical Hunter challenge and since the first episode I've yet to see one "hunting" rifle used in the challenge.
Who takes a shot in the field in the prone position and has 20 minutes to get ready to take the shot ?
Merry Christmas
AND shares wind calls with the other shooters going after them
You ever hunt?......No! Didn't you hear? My rifle weighs 21 pounds! 😂
Always enjoy seeing your new videos Eric and this one is no exception! Makes me want to practice more that's for sure! Like others have said, it'd be cool to see actual hunting rifles entered in this.
Merry Christmas to you and yours Eric, keep up the great work!
😊🎅🎅👍👍
These were hunting rifles. 🤷♂️
What value was the wind at the time of the shot? 1MOA at 500yards in a calm weather is a piece of cake and the first guy failed miserably.
Could you do better? 🤔
@@ErikCortina Actually, I already did. Although, I must admit the weather was calm. th-cam.com/video/ESuxdywq294/w-d-xo.html
Nice shot, but it only counts if you do it like everyone else. The pressure and wind conditions are what makes the challenge hard.
I was considering the difficulty of this in my head and realized that if you have a gun that is shooting 2" groups at 500 yards, you are missing if your windage is off be any more than 2 inches. And that is only if your elevation is dead on. You might be better off with a less accurate rifle because at least then you have a chance to get lucky when you blow your wind hold.
Every shot is a gamble when your hold is off.
The successful outcome of any shot at any distance with any caliber from any rifle is never predetermined or guaranteed. The success, (“kill”) is purely probabilistic based on controlling known variables and mitigating unknowns. Sending any projectile across, (any) space and over any amount of time is an equation that we’re only able to calculate a potential, desired outcome. I hunt and came to terms long ago that “Ethical hunting” is just a euphemism to placate my conscience. When you pull a trigger, you have ZERO certainty of the outcome until the round has stopped moving. An inconvenient truth.
What I appreciate about this challenge is that it’s getting people like me to think, “Should I try a shot like that, if guys with nice heavy rigs aren’t hitting that often?” Me (like many) have a factory 8-9 lb. rifle that shoots sub-Moa on a good day. I definitely will be bringing my shots back to sub-400 yrds for now.
@@sthomsen86 practice is what important here. For the wind and know your rifle. You don’t need a tank of a gun to do this. It’s about knowing the wind. Reloading helps immensely do to the consistency of the rounds. Not saying I can make the shot. I have taken more than 5 deer at 500 yards with a single shot. Key factors no wind!! I will not shoot past 300 if is windy. My rifle is 7.7 lbs tikka 300 wm custom loads and a break.
Yes you should.
I love this. This is something I've considered. How far away can you be and still put two rounds in the right spot?
4 years ago in Colorado I hit a Cow Elk at 512 yds with a Savage 110 Tactical 308 shooting Hornady Superformance 150gr SST. Cant say it was a 1 MOA shot but it was a cold bore kill shot that dropped the Elk instantly. Most shots in the area are 175-350 yds as it is a open area.
“Hey, this is Eric Cortina, we’re having an ethical Hunter Challenge, would you like to come be a contestant?”
“That sounds great Eric, can I bring my THIRTY POUND .308???”
There are no weight limits for hunting rifles, not in Texas anyway.
Wow, there were some really heavy guns on this episode. Makes me feel good about my Daniel defense bolt action 308 that weighs like 16 pounds.
A tuff shot, I shot allot at 300yds, fellt prett confident, the it got expanded to 500 yds. They were tuff shots and happy to hit the gong anywhere.
I made an ethical 100 yard ear hole shot on a pig this evening with a scoped CZ 527 6.5 Grendel that's probably under 8lbs. Cold bore, i had'nt shot the gun in 4 years, now i feel like i can do this challange!
Erik are you still outoff of 181?
Can you do one with a stock hunting rifle? some time
100% miss ratio would get boring. 😂
@@ErikCortina how about 200 t0 400 stock hunting rifle
He kneed him in the back 😂 I wana try this!!!
Anatoly would call them rifles lightweight
He carries a mop a lot heavier. 😂
If i was starving to death, I'd try the shot. Otherwise, let it be.
Merry Christmas, Eric, and thanks for the educational videos I really enjoyed watching.
Merry Christmas!
My wife made an incredible 400 yard shot on her buck this year we spent alot of time practicing but one of tge big things is where we hunt during deer season there is little to no wind if there was a decent breeze that day she would not have taken the shot
Gidday from down in New Zealand, where I'm Range Director for our local shooting club. We shoot your Ethical hunter challenge with a slight twist to suit our range, we use a 6" gong in our deer silhouette at 625 yards. We've run it 3 times this season with 12 shooters attempting it, all with true hunting weight rifles (they must be under 12 lbs), for two hits, one of which was mine so is discounted a bit as the buck fever subsides somewhat as you watch other guys attempt it. Incidentally both hits with 6mm CM. We are also running your Blackjack Challenge this season and the guys are really enjoying it too. Thanks
My problem with these long range hunters that come to Colorado is a 700 yard shot at an animal might entail a 25 minute trudge down the ridge and up the other side to check for blood.
How many will make that walk if they "Miss" with their heavy barreled rifle in tow?
How many look at that long walk through downed trees and deep snow and say to themselves "I'm sure I missed I saw it run off" and leave a gut shot animal to it's slow painful death?
You are right, taking an ethical shot at long range is very difficult.
All these are shooting 15=20 lb rifles off shooting mats and no chance to the target moving and perfect field of fire, this is definitely the series that shows how few people should shoot at a live animal at 500 yards
Hi. This is great. I really like the concept. Have you given thought to angles of engagement? You could turn the target 30-45* with maybe a four inch tall and eight inch wide oval?
What about like, the shooter who hit a shoulder? Do they get a follow up?
Not to condone the notion, but.. some hunters(hammer bullets shares randomly) will purposely use larger cartridges with two shots. Mind you these guys are using really fast, all copper bullets. The way it reads it, many guys taking large game engage with "shoulder" followed by another to keep a downed animal from getting up.
I rarely hunt anymore however, my experience is almost never having a squared up shot. Having spacial awareness as the shot "ideally"passes through (which usually results in the bullet grenading or pinballing inside)
They guys sharing the wind call really changes this challenge
Did it though? Lot of them had the wind call and still missed.
If you can get closer, get closer. If you can get steadier, get steadier.
I love this series, shows some of those keyboard snipers a touch of reality.
Would like to see this with your average hunting rifle and ammo. Great video though. 👍
I see a lot of talented mid-range target shooters here but not hunters. These are not hunters, they are target shooters. Hunting is stalking to see how close you can make the kill.
You are missing the point of this challenge.
One day I’d love to do this challenge out there. With my actual hunting rifle and hunting load. I really absolutely would not stretch that past 400 even unless the conditions were dead calm. Luckily my gun has next to no cold bore shift. There’s a lot of guns that I would not take a long shot with because of Cold bore shift.
That is the beauty of shooting a rifle that you trust, isn't it?
I agree with other commenters. Use “off the rack” hunting rifles not target chassis rifles. Plus it would help to have no bipod and make the shooter jog 100 yards before settling in to take the shot.
Yeah, I don't know what kind of hunting you do, but it sounds like Crossfit hunting games.
Yea let's keep it real, none of those 15lb plus rifles are going on a hunting trip.....all bench guns
They’re all hunting rifles if you’re willing to carry them. 😁
Yes they are…just get stronger. 15lbs is nothing.
@@300_whisper would take a real DA to carry that to the woods.....
@@bucksorbeards no idea what DA stands for
@@ErikCortina Agreed..................Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas to you and yours Erik. After reading through all the comments regarding hunting rifles...made it think, isn't your Solus 6.5 Creedmoor basically a hunting rifle? I mean it is in a hunter stock or chassis, not balancing weights that I saw and only an adjustable trigger (have one on my Winchester Model 70 in .270) with a Tuner Brake and a bipod. I know a couple three people who tried this shot with that rifle without even using the bipod, lol😉.
Yes, the Solus is a hunting rifle. It is literally their Solus “Hunter” Model.
Another prime example of why not to shoot at game at extended range.
No barrel warmers?
Point taken. The industry has marketed new shooters into believing slow calibers shoot flatter and more accurately.
So you think it was the calibers that failed huh? 🤔
@ Not at all. I appreciate the education that you’re giving would be hunters. What I’m saying is the industry has to keep selling, so they’re selling inferior hunting calibers. This ridiculous mantra, “yeah, but my slow high BC bullet catches your bla bla bla at 1000 yds” is meaningless in hunting.
Same challenge but with a bone stock wood frame and stock off the shelf ammo. Like most people use.
“Most people” have no business shooting 500 yards. 🤷♂️
"109 Horna-day' " Yeah, knew where that one was headed...
When friends and family come to hunt with me I like to take them out to double check their zero. 95% can not shoot a 12" group at 300 yards. Most miss completly at 300 yards with your average hunting rifle. I find most people should not shoot from a standing position even at 25 yards. Most can shoot from a rested position out to about 250ish after that most "badass" hunters can't hit shit. I missed a coyote this week at 100yards so I am included!!
Like the video. But i just wish people would bring guns they are acutually taking hunting instead of super heavy Target rifles
I use my PRs rifle for hunting.
Thats crazy! Where the hunting rifles?
Good vid
They were all hunting rifles.
@ErikCortina nah-ahh
I come out dare with my trenta/trenta! And we'll be eat'n heart and tenderloins 🙂🙂🙂
Nice content!
Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Eric have me out, same challenge. Basic Winchester Mod 70 in 270. Will put these fancy rigs to SHAME.
Bring it.
In the discussion after the shot with the shooter, I'd be curious to hear what MOA these rifles typically shoot at 100. That would be in baseline for the average Joe to compare.
That’s a good question. I’m not sure. 🤷♂️
Dang, I can hit steel plates with a youth model savage axis II 7/08 and a 3x9x50 Nikon at 600 yards. Guess I could be the next world record shooter with a 20k, 30 lb rifle.
You are welcome to try this challenge. 😁
My ADD is too strong to get into the long range shooting and I dang sure can't bring myself to spend that much on a one trick pony gun. However, that deer target is bad ass.
@@sammyg5235
So...
Thats a no?
First shot shown made three marks on the target. Intriguing...
Five actually, if you watch closely. But the upper marks look like impact knocking paint off screws or bolts that hold the target to the posts.
I think it’s the suppressor. Never hold the barrel straight up with a suppressor can on, a lot of chimney soot rains down in the barrel. People either forget or don’t realise this. It’ll throw shots like he did.
There are four bolts holding the deer on Tee posts. When the bullet splatters, it hits the bolt heads and knocks the paint off of them. That’s why you see more than one “impact” on the deer.
I'd like to see a similar challenge with an actual "hunting rifle."
Why? Do you think they will do better?
@ not necessarily. I’d like to see some shooters take shots like these with a stock hunting rifle, a mid price scope and maybe even with factory ammo. I saw one video where a guide shoots 20 rounds at 20 milk jugs at ranges from 100-600 yds with a Tikka .300 WM. I think he hit 16/20 shots. Have some shooters range, estimate and shoot a course like that. Would be fun to watch.
wow what great content
More people should try this with a rifle they would hunt with. Custom rifles are nice but not everyone can afford them.
500 yard shots require different equipment than typical hunting setups.
I love this series but can we have these competitive shooters use rifles they have, do or would 100% use to hunt?
did i miss the joke about the last guy "knee capping it" ?? with what appears to be a high rear end shot? the bergara shooter?
Would a hunting rifle with compareable accuracy really make that much of a difference when shooting from prone and spotting your impacts is irrelavant? I think this is way more about making the right wind call and having an accurate cold bore shot.
I'd love to see this challenge with actual hunting rifles!
I hope people watch this and realize that people with competition guns are missing. Your average hunter shouldn’t be shooting this far with their Jonny Morris edition package rifle.
Thank you! You understand it.
Love the challenge Eric.
But please bring in a hunting rifle onyl rule.
I cant see anyone walking those rigs into the bush
Define a hunting rifle. 😁
No chassis.
Timber, carbon fiber, polymer stock with a weight under 12 lbs.
But that's my opinion.
I be you described YOUR hunting rifle. Mine has a chassis and is heavier than 12 lbs. 🤷♂️
Each to their own mate.😊
Love how this is all multi-thousand $ rigs that would never actually be used hunting
I use my PRS rifle for hunting. It’s not that hard to bring it into the deer blind.
@ErikCortina I mean, that's target shooting, though. I was talking about actual hunting
Nope, it’s hunting. Maybe not your type of hunting, but it’s still hunting. 🤷♂️
@@ErikCortina happy new year