Harley Engine Quality Isn't What It Used to Be

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  • @GixxerFoo
    @GixxerFoo  ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Do you feel like Harley-Davidson engine quality has gone forward or backwards with the new engines?

    • @antondahl8945
      @antondahl8945 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Evo 883 sportster. Best HD engine. Only one I'd own.

    • @herbie6860
      @herbie6860 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Backwards I learnt first hand with two new M8s both 50k lemons both gone never again

    • @EnteKross123
      @EnteKross123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Video Idea.
      I would love to have a series like "how to make your Harley XYZ bulletproof"
      I personally own a 2012 wide glide with the 103 TC in it and would love to own this thing for a looooong time

    • @familylandscapecompanyinc.7355
      @familylandscapecompanyinc.7355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@Shane G can't help ht ask..... 50k lemons as I 2? Total engin fail or needed some work?? I've got 70,000 on 2015 103. Couple problems over the years but nothing catastrophic

    • @johnjagodzinski9878
      @johnjagodzinski9878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends on the bike, IMO. If the bike is a lighter bike, the Twin Cam and the M8 are fine. The touring bike both engines are very underpowered. Mass production and cut cost spending. To me, this just gives aftermarket companies to build parts to make the engines better all around or buy a complete aftermarket engine and don't worry about the Harley engine. The same principles apply to sports cars that become race machines. Usually, if you have the money, you drop a crate performance engine in and pull out the original engine. This way, if you sell the bike, you can sell the bike with the original engine. To me, if I'm going to beef up the original engine, it is because I want it to last, and I'm going to keep it for a long time. Otherwise, like other auto machines, I'm going to cash it in for a new one. Personally, I like 2010 softail classic. It's practical. Get me point A to point B. Ther isn't a perfect motorcycle. Just the one each biker prefers, and that's the bottom line.

  • @jamessouthworth1699
    @jamessouthworth1699 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I went from an Evo Sportster to a 2003 Twin Cam. Yeah, I found out the hard way that Harley cheaped out on the internal engine parts. That would be acceptable on a cheap bike but it is absolutely unacceptable on a brand that claims to be "Premium" and charges a premium price.
    BTW, I miss the saggy shelf with the aerosol cans in the back. It was like a mascot.

    • @danfecke
      @danfecke ปีที่แล้ว

      I went from a 99 sportster that I kept for over 10 years into it 2003 road king I put about 45,000 trouble free miles on that bike. What problems did you have? I did upgrade the complete two hydraulic tensioners at 15,000 miles.

    • @martincvitkovich724
      @martincvitkovich724 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My 2003 RKP has 114,000 miles on it. still runs good. Although I had to replace cam chain tensioners 3 times BEFORE they went bad, well , that's what wrenches are for. The only other internal parts were lifters, I replaced at 100K

    • @calimilk1113
      @calimilk1113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂 thought i was the only one that noticed that !!

    • @herbie6860
      @herbie6860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had 2 1200 sporties one was 01 Buell but with absolute young fella abuse 75000kms & 55k other Absolutely for from cold startup I never had 1 issue besides a battery in either,by far most reliable engine & I've had multiple twincams M8s,dropped over 50k on both M8s & both spent more time in wrty than my shed both all same engine issues deadset lemons even with stage 4 kits etc all done from new at dealer I now have a Honda till I find the right twincam.....

    • @rodzimmerman1979
      @rodzimmerman1979 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bought a '99 TC new and rode it over 100,000 miles. I put a gear drive cam and had it dyno tuned at 15.000 miles to get rid of the tensioner worry's and that engine had never been apart otherwise. I changed my oil every 2500 miles.
      Up until '95 they had the bolted crank which was practically indestructible. What kind of problems did you have with yours?

  • @markmcintosh7095
    @markmcintosh7095 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My local Harley Tech has one million miles on his EVO. He rides it every day rain or shine. I really enjoy your channel I have learned a lot.

    • @brandonmacon3317
      @brandonmacon3317 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      1981 fxwg Shovel. Original motor still kicking 40+ years later 🤙

    • @mikec1254
      @mikec1254 ปีที่แล้ว

      is his name Shadow?

    • @markmcintosh7095
      @markmcintosh7095 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikec1254 His name is Ron

    • @canadianloon6433
      @canadianloon6433 ปีที่แล้ว

      I ride mine rain shine and during cold Canadian winters

  • @frankmarkovcijr5459
    @frankmarkovcijr5459 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Let's not forget the evolution motor was developed under AMF, they spent a lot of money and time developing a good engine that took care of all the shovelhead engine problems.

    • @chrish5791
      @chrish5791 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thanks for that kind word about AMF. I always think about that company as the source of Harley’s troubles, but if they were the driving force behind the Evo then that certainly dispels that belief. I’m pretty sure that AMF was responsible for Harley’s venture into snowmobiles as well as I remember that tank they built and tried to label it as a snowmobile. Now that all the snowmobile companies are going to 4 strokes maybe Harley should try planting a Milwaukee 8 in a machine!

    • @martincvitkovich724
      @martincvitkovich724 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      plus AMF brought in CNC machines

    • @frankmarkovcijr5459
      @frankmarkovcijr5459 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@chrish5791 at the bankruptcy court the Davidson family begged the judge to let AMF buy Harley-Davidson because Bangor printer had a history of buying companies taking a tax write-off demolishing the factory and he would have Harley-Davidson cups and t-shirts and knickknacks but no motorcycles. Just like general Mills / MPC saved Lionel trains AMF saved Harley Davidson otherwise we would have neither one today of course they were still American made in those days both the toy trains and the motorcycles. If we were not the world's policeman bankrupting our country to keep peace in the world all of the countries that stole our prosperity would be killing each other left right and center and we would make money selling them ammunition as long as it was backed by gold 🥇🪙.

    • @spaceflight1019
      @spaceflight1019 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@martincvitkovich724 The story I heard is that Vaughn Beals and friends had to buy new Cincinnati Milacron machines in order to get the loan they needed to buy the company approved.

    • @markwitkowski6418
      @markwitkowski6418 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      and don't forget,AMF produced the 5 speed transmission,and the 80 c.i. 1340 c.c. engine..I had a 79,AMF-H-D Lowrider,silver,black,red pinstripes.She was beautiful,ran great,never any major problems.

  • @angelsierra1988
    @angelsierra1988 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As far as I'm concerned you're the most informative and entertaining of any Harley Chanel out there. Keep it up and Thank You !!

    • @starshine8892
      @starshine8892 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100% Spot On!

    • @billystone5069
      @billystone5069 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree.ty for the information 😅

    • @billystone5069
      @billystone5069 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree 💯 ty for the videos n info

    • @ranchodeluxe1
      @ranchodeluxe1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well. Aren't you gullible?

  • @darrellteague8629
    @darrellteague8629 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 88 cubic in. Twin cam has been going for 17 years. Last carburetor model. Still running great.

  • @hambone2335
    @hambone2335 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Harley owner all my life and the son of a Harley owner I would like to know when did Harley ever have quality?

  • @frankG451
    @frankG451 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good luck 🍀👍 with your new shop Andrew! Thanks for the great topics and sharing your knowledge! Ride on wind brother! 🏍️

  • @fq7879
    @fq7879 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The m8 doesn't even sound like a harley. The evo sportster is the best sounding harley as well as the early twin cam engines with a carb.

    • @paulfiore7083
      @paulfiore7083 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've got a 96 Sportster S and 01 FXDX and I agree 100%😊

    • @carlbruhn1772
      @carlbruhn1772 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank the EPA for that.

  • @scottsmith6932
    @scottsmith6932 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Harley-Davidson, One step forward and two steps back. When they removed the TIMIKIN and went to the flat roller they took us back to 1953. Then the tried to cheapen up on the bearings in the cam chest they took a step back to the last of the Shovel heads that came with a caged cam roller bearing that failed. H-D came out with a service bulletin that stated if a German bearing is installed remove it and install a full compliment Torrington cam bearing. They didn't learn their lesson and tried it in the Twin Cam with the same result only with no service bulletin for replacement, All they care is it that it will last until the warranty has expired. From the dawn of time until the EV2 the crankshaft was a Five piece unit with replaceable; crankpin, pinion and sprocket shafts. The EV2 has a Three piece Crank with the shafts machined from the flywheel castings. They had failures of the pinion shafts due to an improper radius in the machining cut causing a stress riser that would cause the shaft failure.( I replaced a few working for the dealership) I have built some nasty Nitro Dragsters and never had the wheels shift, since working on the twin cams I have seen more than one set of wheels scissor and it sucks. The only other failure in the EV2 was the plastic crank case breather gear that would disintegrate. Once the got those few snags worked out the were a great engine.
    Keep the great video's coming and I hope everything works out to your satisfaction.

  • @jimkraft9445
    @jimkraft9445 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Harley made a mistake with the EVO. They run well and for a long long time. Many keep them for years rather than trade for something without the known longevity. My 99 Softail Custom only has 65,000 on it and runs like new. And the fit and finish on the bike are fantastic. Having heard of problems of the later twin cam engines, I love the simplicity of the EVO. But Harley cannot sell new motorcycles if the old ones keep running. I have kept mine stock for the most part except for lots of Chrome the first owner put on it along with drag pipes and a K&N air filter. My 99 comforts me.

  • @GuretoSefirosu
    @GuretoSefirosu ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is hilarious! I have been talking to some other person on here and he says the old engines (the ones that killed HD prior to the Evo) were solid, and the new ones are solid, and Evos aren't all that. I of course told him he was one in a million. Now you publish this (I agree 100%) and it cracked me up. The timing was perfect. I plan to stick with my 1991 Evo. It seems to be solid. I also prefer the reliability of my carburetor over fuel injection, where any one thing can stop me in my tracks.

  • @d-lowz-no9931
    @d-lowz-no9931 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These new bikes are electronic nightmares. Too many things rely on sensors that piggy back on other systems, so when something goes wrong you have no idea where to start if it’s not blatantly obvious. I went through that with a 2020 streetbob.. never again. Went back to a dyna with a 96 twin cam and called it a day.

  • @ampini212
    @ampini212 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The problem with "cost savings" is that they rarely trickle down to the consumer.
    It's simply not about pride anymore. Just greed and investors reports

  • @mobilemechanix1
    @mobilemechanix1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  ปีที่แล้ว

      The extra support on the channel is greatly appreciated, thank you!!

  • @larryhenry5594
    @larryhenry5594 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've done lots of research & watched many of your helpful videos before buying parts for my builds. 2006 street glide, Arlen Ness big sucker, pro pipe, fueling OEM+ cam plate, 509 S&S cam, & Power vision. Bike runs real strong for 88 cubes. Keep up the great videos! I'll be watching. Thanks

    • @ranchodeluxe1
      @ranchodeluxe1 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Research" The most overused word ever in the internet era.

    • @darrellteague8629
      @darrellteague8629 ปีที่แล้ว

      My 88 is still running great after 17 years.

  • @TheRoadGlideRider
    @TheRoadGlideRider ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I still loved my Shovel. Easy to fix on the side of the road. You just needed to maintain it. 🏍💨🏍💨

  • @bc8265
    @bc8265 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You said something that speaks volumes. Drive sensible. Big twins are not hot rod engines, there I said it. I've had Shovels,Pans, Twin Cams and am currently on a 67 Shovel. Every one I've had required some mods to the engines for longevity. Treat them for what they are and they will take you down the road and back.
    Good articles, hope new digs work out for you.

    • @markwitkowski6418
      @markwitkowski6418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BC,You are 100% right.if you start out with a good running H-D and you treat it like it was built to be treated,then it will last you forever,there will always be maintence and some parts do wear out over time just keep up with her.If you pound her into the ground,rev the f out of her,or just don't maintain her properly,then like anything,you will end up with a broken motorcycle.Don't blame the bike,blame an aggressive right hand.

    • @ranchodeluxe1
      @ranchodeluxe1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Baggers running 7s. No hotrodding there.

  • @nicklanderos3773
    @nicklanderos3773 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Congratulations on your move! You definitely deserve it with all the help you’re giving us viewers

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much 🤗

  • @stevenbrown5213
    @stevenbrown5213 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really enjoy your channel and look forward to it every week. Recently brought a one owner 97 Fatboy (Stage 1) done 22000 kms , so any info you put out on the Evo feeds my passion. Cheers 😎🇦🇺

  • @2trdmustanggtfordf1hdsgsfa80
    @2trdmustanggtfordf1hdsgsfa80 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The MoCo needs to solve the crank runout issue. Their solution was to allow for a higher runout to be considered in tolerance. Rebuilding the crank was a major expense during my 50k refresh.
    Come on HD….Just weld the damn crank.

  • @seanotoole3542
    @seanotoole3542 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really enjoy your content. Glad to see you persevere through your recent moves!!! Always look forward to see your next topic when I tune in. Past Harleys; 96 FXSTC, 97 FLRHI, 16 FLHXS (someone totaled last summer, lucky to be alive and still riding! currently went back to an EVO 97 FXSTC, stock 9k on it from orig. owner, which I'm slowly making changes to.

  • @timmcpeck7527
    @timmcpeck7527 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love your channel Gixx, I look forward every week to your videos and find them very informative. Congratulations on the new move for what it’s worth.

  • @deedeeindustrialsuperprecision
    @deedeeindustrialsuperprecision ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went through the factory school in 1981 and saw a fellow trueing wheels on a modified trueing stand with a foot operated air center point, trueing more than one crankshaft a minute he was doing. The early Twincam loose cranks were fixed the dirt bike method of welding the pin. Old and retired now.

    • @ronniesarvis
      @ronniesarvis หลายเดือนก่อน

      At the capital drive plant I saw that in Jan of 1982 and them balancing the assemblies electronically assembled crankshafts to a set piston weight

  • @jimpoulos2272
    @jimpoulos2272 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Congratulations on the new place! Was getting worried that something had happened when the Friday videos stopped so suddenly, I’ve been watching for a while and I’ve learned a lot. Keep the content coming!!

  • @shovel_head80
    @shovel_head80 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have had several shovels over the years new and used . I never had any issues with them and were quite reliable with proper maintenance and upkeep. That’s the major problem with the shovels was the lack of maintenance cause the majority of the problems .

    • @brandonmacon3317
      @brandonmacon3317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Facts 👌 💯

    • @bmp72
      @bmp72 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      After I bought my shovels (used) and all the issues were fixed, they have given me no problems whatsoever. (knock on wood)

    • @jimfischione2743
      @jimfischione2743 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe you're right. Shovels were reliable if they were maintained properly. The other reason for their bad reputation was too many of them wound up in the hands of people that simply abused them.

    • @garyhopkins6337
      @garyhopkins6337 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100% right, I have had shovels half my life with no problems out of the ordinary.

    • @TeensierPython
      @TeensierPython ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s true with all engines.

  • @RicardoGarcia-jm4pu
    @RicardoGarcia-jm4pu ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Congratulations on the life changing events. Hope all is well. I appreciate all the EVO content. I'm subscribed to your channel till I die. Keep up the good work 💪🏾

  • @TheStarbuck61
    @TheStarbuck61 ปีที่แล้ว

    Understand Life Changes brother. Glad to see you still hanging out your sign. My brother and I really appreciate what you do. Hang in there!

  • @johnlfrank8078
    @johnlfrank8078 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Gix , your show on Friday is the trigger that switches my brain from “at work mode” to “it’s the weekend so I can work on my stuff mode “ . I look forward to you pulling the trigger and throwing my brain switch each Friday. 💪

  • @hampdentime
    @hampdentime ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your comments and videos, well done. I have too many bikes. The '15 Ultra is the one we ride most often. It has a 103 and is not changed up except for exhaust. Very dependable so far ( 6K ). My favorite to look at and think they will never be made again (because of cost) is the '97, '98 and '99 Heritage Springers. They really are artwork and they all have EVO's. thanks again

  • @AnalogDude_
    @AnalogDude_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad i chose for the BMW R1100RS, a pretty cool design those cyl heads and having a camshaft snucked in there, futuristic suspension.
    It seems to do 0-200km/h in about 11/12 seconds with only 90HP and 100nm Torque and doing 5 liter / 100km.

  • @SaddleTrampTV
    @SaddleTrampTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the topic. You just confirmed my suspicion as to why they did away with the tapered crank bearings. Cost and production.

  • @echevarriawilson
    @echevarriawilson ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I did get some rework done on my 2018 Road King Police with a multitude of things including a new oil pump and installed am external breather. So far it's been running great and I have about 80k miles on it. I ride it everyday down here in Florida. Hopefully it lasts

    • @Kajemyster
      @Kajemyster ปีที่แล้ว

      How much did the oil pump and labor cost you? Need to do the same to my 2018 Low Rider eventually.

    • @echevarriawilson
      @echevarriawilson ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Peter-nm1ps I actually bought it used with 10k miles on it. The rest I've been putting on. It's actually been very reliable and the one time that I did get it towed was for a nail in the tire and since I had the wheel and tire warranty, that didn't cost me anything

    • @echevarriawilson
      @echevarriawilson ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Peter-nm1ps that's great that it still runs good. I'm not into sport bikes anymore unless it's a track day. I just find Harley cruisers way more comfortable and practical for everyday use. To each thier own though. At least you're on two wheels. Keep riding, and keep enjoying what you're doing

    • @echevarriawilson
      @echevarriawilson ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kajemyster The oil pump was covered under warranty and they actually changed it to a 2022 oil pump. I'm looking to changed out the cam plate, and put in a new cam as well to the ones gixxerfoo recommended for a little more power and longevity. I may have my local shop do that instead of taking it to a Harley dealership. I got quoted about $800 for the cam plate, cam and labor.

  • @herbie6860
    @herbie6860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I brought 2 brand new M8s & spent huge money on stage 4 kits full exhausts everything done right dealership over 10k on engine alone each bike & both were in shop on wrty more than my garage with stator regulators,oil pumps & backing plates,oil locks cooking engines & after 40 years riding 20 of those years with 9 Harley's I have a Honda in shed now don't own a Harley anymore,last twincam103ho I thought were great engines I never had any issues with but the M8s both were a nightmare I'd kill to get my 16 breakout back hassle free bike screw M8s never buy another

  • @xnihilo1044
    @xnihilo1044 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should have stayed with the EVO.
    Bulletproof, easy to work on, easy to hop up.
    HD just had to screw it up.

  • @blues3824
    @blues3824 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always great to hear from you, even when I don't know if temptin bearing for a crank ha ha ha . But my Evo is running great!

  • @bhudson4739
    @bhudson4739 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most informative channel I have found!!. Keep em coming!. Congrats on the new shop!.!

  • @bigd4561
    @bigd4561 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was going to buy a new Honda Rebel but loved the look of the 883. Saw a 2001 for 1/2 the cost of the rebel. What sold me, however, was the EVO reputation... bullet proof. I hope I do not curse myself. So far so good. 😊

    • @bigd4561
      @bigd4561 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Peter Done 2 years ago... so far no regrets. Very different machines. I have to admit, I did my refresher course on the Rebel, nice bike, but I wanted a little more character in my older years. Already owned 3 Asian bikes.

    • @bigd4561
      @bigd4561 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Peter Well... not this guy. Icon jacket and my 883 has been labeled a girl's bike... by big Harley guys ... you know, the ones you classify as apes!

    • @MrBradfordchild
      @MrBradfordchild ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2001 is the end of the run. Great bikes!

  • @shovelhead56
    @shovelhead56 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gixxer, always enjoy your topics and narrative. You apparently have had A Lot going on. Hope things work out for the best for you. Hang in there Amigo🤙

  • @mikehawk4665
    @mikehawk4665 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Congrats on the new place Of course man i cant wait for a new vid every week!

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the support!

  • @geodez2959
    @geodez2959 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope the circumstances you speak of aren't family related. Wish you all the best and keep the videos comin bruh.

  • @frankfurther3828
    @frankfurther3828 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    EVO's Forever. and ever. Built better than today's board of directors.

  • @danlonick800
    @danlonick800 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Right now, it may feel like a few rough & rocky steps on your winding path up the mountain my friend, but just remember the view you will get from the top will have made the whole journey worthwhile.
    Not every step is easy, but every step counts towards your destination so long as you never give up mate. 👍

  • @keithhults8986
    @keithhults8986 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a faithful viewer. You are a walking Harley encyclopedia Mr Gixxer! I guess my 2002 was the last year of the assembled balanced crank. I have not opened the engine. It runs soo smooth and reliable. I don't want to risk spoiling a reliable Harley. That's unheard of. Every Harley I've owned has suffered break downs.

    • @srenlnbk4414
      @srenlnbk4414 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're 2002 crank are pressed. GixxerFoo keeps repeating this nonsense. Not just this video but also in other.
      The fact are all Twin Cam cranks are pressed together starting from 1999.
      I have a 2000 Dyna where I this winter changed my crank for a S&S crank 4 3/8" stroke. My old 88" OEM crank are pressed.

    • @srenlnbk4414
      @srenlnbk4414 ปีที่แล้ว

      But you have the great Timken button end bearings though 😎

    • @keithhults8986
      @keithhults8986 ปีที่แล้ว

      No Gixxer corrected me there. So much for hoping 2002 had something better in the drivetrain. On the other hand, the great Gixxerfoo hasn't revealed anything terrible about my year bike. Yet.

  • @jeffblackmon288
    @jeffblackmon288 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like my Evo, so far. My friends with TCs love my Evo.
    Please put that old wonky shelf back up in your new shop. It makes us feel at home.

  • @Zerinsakech
    @Zerinsakech ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep the power mild?! Ride it Sensibly?!!! Then Harley better not sell me a "Screaming Eagle" if it's just a "clucking chicken"

  • @markharvey3770
    @markharvey3770 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And yet, neither the author, nor anyone else mentions the huge involvement of S&S in the development of the Evo. H-D' s best motor EVER!

    • @ronniesarvis
      @ronniesarvis หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry George Smith to my knowledge didn't. The Evo project was started in 1979. I saw 2 in bikes at service school in Jan 1982 across from the cafeteria downstairs looking through a window before I got run off. 12 engines 750,000 test miles on those 12 before the release in 1984 year models in Sept of 1983

  • @sgtcole69
    @sgtcole69 ปีที่แล้ว

    bought a new road glide recently. the clutch slipped terribly right out the box. got it home, rode around for a few days and had to put it in the shop.

  • @nickahrens6139
    @nickahrens6139 ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of the Milwaukee 8 when you change the Fluids you will have metal on all 3 drain plugs including the engine. I put s&S 1200 KITin the 2021 883. The gear case was loaded with metal fragments from when the cases were machined and not cleaned properly.

  • @thomasschuh980
    @thomasschuh980 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are my first resource whenever I have a question about HD. Excellent content and delivery.

  • @scotthayslip2332
    @scotthayslip2332 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a 99 FXDL. Just put on a S&S 510 gear drive kit, thunder header exhaust and mikuni carb. Bike rips, dyno was showing 78 horsepower

  • @mickc4633
    @mickc4633 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, don’t forget we always have S&S and if you go that way that should fix most of your problems

  • @brandot.7466
    @brandot.7466 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all the great content you provide!! I bought a FLHXS 2021 $43,000.00 CAD Right out of the box shifter pawl spring had to be replaced.few month later if you leave the ignition on wile fueling the ECM locks up and the bike won't start must leave it sit with ignition off for 10 min.(dealer can't repair it)and this year went on my first ride throttle by wire puts the bike in LIMP MODE . OH YES and the front disc have been replaced 2 times warping problems. I sold my 2004 ultra classic to my Nabour and he IS having a blast with that bike LOL THANKS HD

  • @simonkennedy6116
    @simonkennedy6116 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great that you've made the move and I pray you won't have any more strife. I noticed your sound is much cleaner too, lavalier mic?

  • @asquared7861
    @asquared7861 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Missed you bud. Good to have a video from you today.

  • @chriszasada9756
    @chriszasada9756 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Outstanding, glad you are moving in the direction you wanna go. Been watching channel for awhile now and continue to look forward to what you post. I always come away with learning something new every time . Thanks for posting can't wait for more

  • @louisgoldfond6326
    @louisgoldfond6326 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good luck with the new digs GF. Keep bringing that great content.

  • @deebo1103
    @deebo1103 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had 2 TC88 and 1 TC88B bikes. My 01 FXDX was a dream bike and I miss it a ton. My 03 FXD is my current bike and has been a very reliable bike. My 04 Fatboy was my least favorite of the 3 for comfort reasons, just never liked how that bike rode. For the 01 and 04 I did the Screamin Eagle upgrade to the camchest and have zero complaints and had zero reliability issues. All bikes ran all over and had decent power. The 03 I completely tore out the factory cam system for an SS510 gear cam system and that makes the TC88 a much better running motor, hopefully just as reliable over the next few years as the others were. The evo's were fine but I will always be happier to run a TC88.

  • @drsparwaga
    @drsparwaga ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the reason I went with a Sportster, the fact it is tried and tested for decades.

    • @spaceflight1019
      @spaceflight1019 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My 2005 1200 Roadster has 83,000 miles on it and was a good investment.

  • @RodHog1
    @RodHog1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the videos glad you got shop. I'm going to put woods tw 222 in my 2016 street glide special been looking at parts very confused 😕 the fuel om cam plate what's different between it and the red hp plate I need a kit with that cam where can I find that for good price any information would be greatly appreciated and was wondering where your shop at and what you charge for cam install on 103 thanks

  • @canadianloon6433
    @canadianloon6433 ปีที่แล้ว

    My FXR Evo motor sounds great, super reliable in the summer and during our cold winters here in Canada.
    I ride it minus -10 Celsius and this crazy motor loves winters.
    No issues at all

  • @keepitreal317
    @keepitreal317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always learning from you’re content buddy. Hope all is well brother and keep it coming!!

  • @Sam590ss
    @Sam590ss ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was thought all twin cams had press fit flywheels. I know my 2000 has the Timken bottom end, but does it have that glorious Evo flywheel as well? 🤔

    • @srenlnbk4414
      @srenlnbk4414 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're absolutely right - its pressed. GixxerFoo keeps repeating this nonsense. Not just this video but also in other.
      The fact are all Twin Cam cranks are pressed together.
      I have a 2000 Dyna where I this winter changed my crank for a S&S crank 4 3/8" stroke. My old 88" OEM crank are pressed.

    • @Sam590ss
      @Sam590ss ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Søren Lønbæk I thought so. I think Harley figured the Timken bearings would support it, then got rid of those too. That's when all the trouble really began with total indicated runout

  • @B4TheFlood
    @B4TheFlood ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought a new Softail in 2011…immediately joined the Forums and learned all the “bad” stuff about my motor….146,000 miles on a stock bottom end and not a problem…and I did a big bore kit with cams and heads….if you didn’t get a lemon from the factory, you are fine

  • @mikedawkins6510
    @mikedawkins6510 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love your educational content

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! I appreciate the support!

  • @timothyweiss619
    @timothyweiss619 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 76 sportster which was a disaster, however my 76 flh liberty edition and my 78 flh 75th anniversary were frigging great.
    Now onto the newer ones they have their quirks, but a twin cam is worth beefing up. Take Care Brother

  • @duncanwalton5358
    @duncanwalton5358 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did a stage 3 big bore kit and my crank scissored within 2000 miles. I sent the crankcase to Darkhorse. I'm not a big fan of the stock crank.

  • @huntridesail
    @huntridesail ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for your content and valuable info

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! I appreciate the support!

  • @sprezzatura8755
    @sprezzatura8755 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm going to stick with my carbureted Evo Electra Glide Standard.

  • @77xlchop
    @77xlchop ปีที่แล้ว +2

    good video, GixxerFoo! I learn a lot, thanks.

  • @entiatmule3820
    @entiatmule3820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your channel. Your passion shows! i wish you the best with your changes.

  • @darrenstokes9123
    @darrenstokes9123 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a owner of both a evolution and a twin cam 103 ho , I will have to say I am very happy with both but when I took your advice and put the wood 222 cams and a thunder max tuner and tab full exhaust I am a big fan of the twin cam thanks for your vids that pointed me in the right direction as far as parts you are spot on thanks

    • @bullast2046
      @bullast2046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you get your bike tuned? I have a twin cam too.. I like torque and mid range RPMs (don’t care about highest HP).. how’s your torque curve? I’ve watched all Gixxer’s vids, just curious of user feedback.. thanks

    • @GBDunknRollCD
      @GBDunknRollCD ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bullast2046 he is running a tmax ecm, which would tune the bike, running the same on my 04 ultra with a stroked s&s 113 and no issues so far

    • @bullast2046
      @bullast2046 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GBDunknRollCD I got that.. I’m wondering what the torque curve is like on a dyno tune.. is it good and steady, or a rise and peak.. the graph Gixxerfoo showed shows the latter..

    • @spencerkleiman5035
      @spencerkleiman5035 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@bullast2046 that's because a more restrictive cam and head allows the air to flow faster through a tighter space at low rpms, you're going to lose torque under 3-3.5k and gain it above 4k. It's opening up the top end. The best way to get more torque down low for your "preference" is to increase displacement ie. a bigger bore or stroke

    • @GBDunknRollCD
      @GBDunknRollCD ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bullast2046 it all depends on what you have done to your bike, different cam lift and durations with change the curve drastically, find a cam to suit your needs when it comes to having power and tq come on down low and you should be happy

  • @tonytillman3953
    @tonytillman3953 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gixxer, you put out a lot of good content and information, knowledge is power! You have a good supportive fan base, keep up the good work, I for one, am not going anywhere.

  • @mcdgtodd
    @mcdgtodd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man oh man I miss my Evolution bikes! I shoulda never sold them! The twin cams were a disaster waiting to happen! Now I have the M8 and truthfully I quite like a lot. I have a 2017 model, that I took upon myself to fix the oil pressure issue. So far it's been a really reliable engine and in fact the 107" motor was just fine as far as I'm concerned. I don't need to go or accelerate any faster or better. It's a bagger, fast is relative to your destination. I didn't buy mine to race it that's for sure. But I did cam it up and with the S&S .475c cam and did a few other choice mods that kept it reliable. Getting back to the Evolution motors, I rarely if at all had issues with the motor itself, I did however had a terrible issue with the EV-1 cam that slowly disintegrated and took out my bottom end, thank god for Delcron! Evos are still my favorite AMF motor and Harley-Davidson was smart for keeping it as long as they did.

  • @tomkarnes69
    @tomkarnes69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Because HD is a T-Shirt company selling incomplete motorcycles

  • @nbitt1319
    @nbitt1319 ปีที่แล้ว

    Look forward to your videos every week! Fantastic content!!! By far one of my favorite channels 🤘🏽

  • @chrish5791
    @chrish5791 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats there Foo, you got at least the camera backdrop of your new creative work center organized. It’s just not the same as when we could take bets on that shelf behind you and if it was going to collapse by your next video! The suspense that used to add to your videos was palpable.

  • @mikeskidmore6754
    @mikeskidmore6754 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Torque and Horse Power are one thing but RPM's are a huge factor too .

  • @fearsomename4517
    @fearsomename4517 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ride a '99 Heritage Springer evolution motor is bulletproof. She rides like a dream.

  • @johnbelculf5441
    @johnbelculf5441 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate your content. I think we all do. Thank You. I love the insight and history of the tech. Keep it rolling our way. I think you should be at 100k subscribers by now!!! PS I like when you expose the corner cutting the co. made, and the FIX.

  • @theslowride66
    @theslowride66 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your perspective. I know Moving sucks ! about 7 years ago I got eviction notice on my BD & less than a month to find a place & move. I am set up now About 2000 ' A/C ( Florida) but its been rough. But im still here & going forward. EVO's ROCK!!!! Cant wait to see your shop

  • @patrickpylant7881
    @patrickpylant7881 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a factory evo new in the crate. its complete with carb, even spark plugs and oil filter. plug and play. looking for an evo cycle that needs an elgine

  • @scottfree8848
    @scottfree8848 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you keep charging more for less it's a thin line you walk and Harley seems to really stagger on both sides of that line. Most folks I know give A.M.F. the credit for the Evo and for me and alot of people I know judge other engines against the Evo. Reliability, cost and cost of upgrading. If not for the aftermarket supporting Harleys because of customers who are in love with the story of Harley and not the corporate side of it at all. The bikers, the tattoos and the bad boy look is what kept Harley and AMF alive and afloat. The very people Harley always tried to distance themselves from are the reason they're still here. If Indian had kept it together and stayed American owned they could have taken Harleys market share. They were around first anyway. Great vids, glad you post.

  • @biglog5112
    @biglog5112 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 2017 RG and put in the 114 kit right after I bought it. Talking about a domino effect! First the clutch basket exploded. Then the compensator went, followed by the transmission. Oil summing went nuts, so had to put in new oil pump and plate by S&S. Then the Harley Screamin Eagle cams went so new cam and lifters. Although is was expensive, I love my HP now and couldn’t ride a stock bike.😊

  • @scottarmstrong1172
    @scottarmstrong1172 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why would you spend extra time and money on the bottom end? Shiny paint is the important thing.

  • @JustRusting
    @JustRusting ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for doing this video, I didnt know about the pressed cranks, I guess I never thought about those things. I have a 2008 Sportster 1200 other than the intake air box and the exhaust pipes I will leave it alone.

  • @mikeadams5410
    @mikeadams5410 ปีที่แล้ว

    Couldn’t put my finger on it at first, then it hit. You must be related to the guy from project farm. I’m convinced it’s the same voice…… great content keep it up
    Thanks

  • @trailruntim
    @trailruntim ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did you finally start using a mic? Your audio sounds fabulous

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did a little tweaking on the audio and changed shops!

  • @nickahrens6139
    @nickahrens6139 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fixes and changes for the roller bearing bottom end is a conversion kit back to the taper timpkin bearings. What does that tell you?

  • @johntinamostyn4044
    @johntinamostyn4044 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, what years would you consider to be the best evo engines? What model bike to be the best built and designed? Thanks

  • @ct895
    @ct895 ปีที่แล้ว

    As usual great show I always enjoy your info. great luck on your new place!!!! CT of WV

  • @davidzornes6863
    @davidzornes6863 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 53 Pan has 340, 000 miles on it, 2 rebuilds, it was in a garage from 70 to 88 when I bought with 32, 000miles on it. 2 kicks or 3 she fires up ... 45 miles to a gallon.. 80mph easy. tops out out 112 mph, changed the trans sprocket toget a faster topend.

  • @greghudson1489
    @greghudson1489 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's everything in the auto/MC industry.
    Our local Toyota maintenance shop manager told us recently he can't recommend buying a new car, and to keep our 14 year old SUV as it's running well and in good condition. He said he talks to all the auto maintenance managers (all the brands/companies) in his region and ALL of them say their new vehicles for the past several years are recall/repair nightmares right off the lots.
    Sad state of affairs...

  • @daveytomasulo8164
    @daveytomasulo8164 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish that last sentence were true! I just yesterday had My stage 4 M8 with 24k miles die on me in the middle of a road trip when a lifter bearing failed…

  • @whylie74
    @whylie74 ปีที่แล้ว

    I worked at a dealers' in the early nineties, every bike we uncrated had issues, either mechanicle, electrical or cosmetic, we had the wire wheels relaced on every bike that arrived because it wasn't worth the risk not too, and had to raid the parts dept just to make the biks fit for sale, quality and harley aren't words I'd generaly used in the same sentance in a possitive light.

  • @thangknowa3288
    @thangknowa3288 ปีที่แล้ว

    In addition to how you run your motorcycle, I believe in timely service intervals, all three holes each time with quality lubes and filter is key. Scrimping here is not saving at all, it ends up costing. And - don't despise that downtime, enjoy it, do it well, and be looking for changes and do it well! Connect with your bike, and seek out loose fasteners always! Check your tires, too!

  • @og190
    @og190 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad you found a home for the channel Gixxer, but I have to say, be it not perfect. I love the twin cam. Even with its shortcomings, it's not perfect, but neither was the Evo. I have 3 bikes, all are twin cams, and 2 are souped up . I am out of the buying game, but if I were still working, I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a newer road glide.

  • @markman7
    @markman7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As long as Harley keeps using multi piece cranks, cam plates, and free air cooling, durability will always be sacrificed.

  • @Prometheus1979
    @Prometheus1979 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been a follower for a good while now, you deserve way more subs.

  • @Padre.K1880
    @Padre.K1880 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoy the channel, always look forward to Fridays.