TF2: 14 Spy Mistakes YOU Make

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  • @TheManDude
    @TheManDude 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1486

    Gotta love how the first two mistakes are playing spy in the first place.

    • @CheesyYVIO
      @CheesyYVIO 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +163

      Playing spy is a mistake. This is common knowledge

    • @Lionel-welldone
      @Lionel-welldone 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      @@CheesyYVIO real

    • @akira6457
      @akira6457 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

      It is an advance form of self torture afterall

    • @eliasmg9144
      @eliasmg9144 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      @@akira6457 a self torture so pleasant, it might as well be a sub plot for the hellraiser movies

    • @SO9892
      @SO9892 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yeah when i started playing i was scared to play spy... I played demoman... It did not go well

  • @prywatne4733
    @prywatne4733 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +419

    I was like "oh it's all so obvious" then he started talking about always using L'etranger and it felt like a personal attack

    • @RdTrler
      @RdTrler 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      Overusing L'etranger feeds into making Mistake Number 11 (playing too passively.)
      More cloaking means less hiding in plain sight, which means taking longer to make your plays.
      Sure, it's a good revolver for stock watches to work in larger maps, but Spy *does* have a gun (that he shouldn't always use.)

    • @nightscribenyx
      @nightscribenyx 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I personally don't agree with it, l'etranger is viable with all watches and there's only a couple good revolvers anyways so I don't see the problem with being reliant on it

    • @UncleWayne_REAL
      @UncleWayne_REAL 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Use it with only eternalreward and maybe cloak and dagger but stock better

  • @sanzharkhairov501
    @sanzharkhairov501 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +347

    I love how Jonto every Video shouted that Spy has a gun, due to the gun being underused to the point he had to explain that Spy has a gun, doesn't mean he should use it every time

    • @JesterOfDestiny
      @JesterOfDestiny 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      "Spy has a gun? I have a gun! Do NOT enter my sightlines!"

  • @sup3rsn8ke
    @sup3rsn8ke 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +799

    Heres another 14 spy mistakes brand new players fall into. /j
    1. Playing Spy
    2. Playing Spy
    3. Playing Spy
    4. Playing Spy
    5. Playing Spy
    6. Playing Spy
    7. Playing Spy
    8. Playing Spy
    9. Playing Spy
    10. Playing Spy
    11. Playing Spy
    12. Playing Spy
    13. Playing Spy
    14. Playing Spy
    Bonus: Playing Spy

    • @Arial55555
      @Arial55555 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      This is just a visualization of tip #1

    • @Sandwich2700
      @Sandwich2700 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      i play spycrab

    • @AfterthymeGaming
      @AfterthymeGaming 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I play Scout like Spy once (Backscatter).

    • @BUCKshot_shorts
      @BUCKshot_shorts 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm pretty new and honestly I like how complex spy is I'm not saying the other classes are easy it's just that I find it very satisfying to hear that crit sound

    • @Sandwich2700
      @Sandwich2700 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AfterthymeGaming penis scout

  • @Slondono1222
    @Slondono1222 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +169

    Mistake #15.
    Not getting a good amount of sleep.
    Seriously though, getting atleast 8 hours of sleep every day will help you a LOT. Not just for spy, but for pretty much any class and any other game you play, it can improve your skill in-game and I have experienced it too.
    Another tip I would have is that if you are feeling angry or you're just burnt out, you can always take a break, do something new to clear your mind. And when you come back you will feel better.
    Try to stay positive, laugh at your own stupid mistakes and don't take the game too seriously.

    • @professionalrose6830
      @professionalrose6830 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Mistake #16.
      Not touching grass.

    • @johannesneumayer6041
      @johannesneumayer6041 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      „This video is sponsored by Helix Sleep….“

    • @jzh4805
      @jzh4805 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ain't readin alltgat

    • @Slondono1222
      @Slondono1222 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@jzh4805 ooga booga, more sleep = more skill

    • @jzh4805
      @jzh4805 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@Slondono1222 ew, a good advice for my mental health??? If this was on Reddit I'd downvote you and ban your comment grrrrrrrr 👿👿👿👿

  • @the-dn3zw
    @the-dn3zw 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    1 spy - 87% winrate
    2 spies - 76% winrate
    3 spies - 24% winrate
    16 spies - 124% winrate

  • @Landjrin
    @Landjrin 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +112

    There are so many people who underestimate the potency of acting using your disguises, disguise as sniper and look down common sniper sightlines, when disguised as any class running towards the front line, turn and look around like you're spy checking, never look directly at "teammates", etc.
    Backpedaling is actually BROKEN, I've collected tons of clips where I was able to disguise as engineer/soldier on the enemy front lines, backpedal, and just slip through the whole team.
    The biggest mistake people using when using disguises is just repeatedly disguising as scout and not putting any further thought into it than "it stops the sentry from locking onto me".

    • @dr.infernous9342
      @dr.infernous9342 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      Dude the turning around and spychecking thing is something I recently developed an intuition for and you just put it into words
      It's so broken cause you get to be aware of your surroundings and also fool people at the same time!

    • @dr.infernous9342
      @dr.infernous9342 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Also when the enemy is really paranoid it stops really mattering what disguise you pick just if you act in a way that draws attention, learned this on my first 10 ks as spy

    • @cloverkip
      @cloverkip 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      disguises dont work on me because i shoot all my teammates at least 4 times when i see them

  • @DoctorLudvig
    @DoctorLudvig 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +347

    5:00
    *”spy has unlimited disguises”
    *shows YER gameplay

    • @justyouraveragebird5996
      @justyouraveragebird5996 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Hallo, Doktor!

    • @HANKSANDY69420
      @HANKSANDY69420 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      It still applies, in a different way. That is, if you have the same mentality as Kunai spies.
      *_"unlimited backs."_*

    • @spymelon32
      @spymelon32 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      YER is the only weapon that affects disguises, so it doesnt really matter

    • @aro_ger_
      @aro_ger_ 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You do know that it only sucks up your Cloak and not your Disguises.

    • @Fr3nchCat
      @Fr3nchCat 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@aro_ger_ it requires a full cloak meter to disguise with it

  • @sensibledog09
    @sensibledog09 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +86

    Just wanted to mention how this series greatly affect my spy gameplay
    He went from one of my most hated classes to play to being my second main class to play
    Thanks a lot for making these 👍

    • @ДаниилАверьянов-е5т
      @ДаниилАверьянов-е5т 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Who is your first main class?

    • @sensibledog09
      @sensibledog09 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@ДаниилАверьянов-е5т
      Engineer and the reason why I like both of them are simple
      Sentries shoot for you
      Backstabs are melee
      If you can't tell, I can't hit my shots for the life of me

    • @ДаниилАверьянов-е5т
      @ДаниилАверьянов-е5т 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@sensibledog09 sounds like you would like Demoknight then, other melee (sub)class that can just fly

  • @v-14415
    @v-14415 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +77

    10:47 Heavy Space Program Guy

    • @imaybestupid2045
      @imaybestupid2045 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      "You are going down you SPUTNIK!!"

    • @ihappydawnz
      @ihappydawnz 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      i literally gaped at that ragdoll fly

    • @jungle003
      @jungle003 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Wait ...
      THE HEAVY IS DEAD!

    • @Crowklr
      @Crowklr 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ihappydawnz You meant gasped....right?

    • @ihappydawnz
      @ihappydawnz 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Crowklr it can mean "stare with one's mouth open wide in amazement or wonder"

  • @bingus48
    @bingus48 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +335

    Don't listen to this guy, your whole team should be nothing but spies (except maybe the occasional sniper)

    • @rbryanarchive
      @rbryanarchive 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      literally half of the friendly 2fort servers

    • @tf2isagoodgame282
      @tf2isagoodgame282 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      The heavy medic vaccinator combo when 12 spies uncloak with the enforcer:

    • @Halberds8122
      @Halberds8122 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      TF2 is a meme game, do Spy Gaming

    • @lechampi5324
      @lechampi5324 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Ze french revolution strategy

    • @TheIndoraptor
      @TheIndoraptor 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Okay, Pyro main

  • @Mugenman88
    @Mugenman88 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    As a quick little extension of 6, pay attention to what your disguise is doing. If someone sees a sniper sitting in the back line with their kukri for no good reason out they are going to spy check. If a medic is running at them with a melee out you're going to get spy checked. if a scout is on the front line but they have their bat out for no good reason- etc etc. Make sure your disguise is on the right weapon for the right situation (you can change your disguise's weapon by having the wanted slot out then pressing B by default). It's something that I pay attention to a lot and it helps to blend in massively. Great video!

  • @Omeyrolx_theChessmaster
    @Omeyrolx_theChessmaster 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    8:17 Yeah, imagine saying something similar, like "ATM Machine" or "chai tea", that'd be ridiculous XD

    • @beesechurgertf2
      @beesechurgertf2 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Spider-Man reference!?!!

    • @cohen7353
      @cohen7353 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      smh my head why do people keep doing these??

  • @DrippyPootis
    @DrippyPootis 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I have played spy a little bit, and my biggest piece of advice is; 'Don't Look At The Enemy', for instance if you are playing medic and the heavy you started healing is staring at you like you broke Sasha, something is wrong.

  • @anothernormalperson069
    @anothernormalperson069 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Just wanted to say that i first find out about your spy psychology video when i was about 100~ ish hours on tf2
    Now I have 1,100 hours, i'm a spy main using stock, still don't know how to pull out trickstabs, but somehow always manage to get on the top of the scoreboard and most of the time have an even if not positive k:d ratio. All that by the power of acting, thinking, and adapting that your videos teached me!
    Thank you and good luck for the other spies out there!

  • @DeltaMix96
    @DeltaMix96 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    about the knife raise animation, when I was still new to the game I would wait for the knife raise animation to tell me when a stab would happen, and it did help at first, I would personally suggest using the raising animation at the very beginning to get used to the kill area

  • @Pudding404
    @Pudding404 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +73

    "14: Not learning from mistakes."
    Instructions very clear, now picking better spy. (Sniper)

    • @candlestone5397
      @candlestone5397 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      nah thats clearly the other character with a backstab mechanic. The Loud Spy! Also known as Scout.

  • @Riff.Wraith
    @Riff.Wraith 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    6:56
    It's true that decloaking right behind an experienced player who's locked in is a death sentence,
    but in casual mm you can often get away with doing so anyway.
    It's really something that you should invest a few lives into learning which players on the enemy team are actually paying attention.
    edit: I totally agree however that 2 spies is optimal if your team is going to have spies at all. The whiplash of experiencing the extreme confidence boost of "I just killed the spy" and then dying to a different spy is possibly the only thing in TF2 that inflicts more psychic damage than dying to a random crit.

  • @luna_fm
    @luna_fm 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    perfect moment to uncloak is when you know nobody is behind you and you time your decloak with someone shooting their weapon. Weapon firing sounds mask portions of the decloak sound quite well.

  • @ZenithPeak1
    @ZenithPeak1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Mistake 14 is applicable for EVERY class of every skill level, but it’s especially more prevalent for classes that are generally deemed as “harder” to play, like spy, medic , or demo.
    Also the unbinding your tab key thing is a great idea, but it’s also a good tool to check if there’s cheaters abusing an exploit with ping

  • @PopplioDoesPokemon
    @PopplioDoesPokemon 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    wow, two videos in two weeks? impressive.

    • @Jontohil2
      @Jontohil2  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      more than 2 likes… impressive…

    • @CheesyYVIO
      @CheesyYVIO 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@Jontohil2 Hah, get your reply liked

    • @epicgamer3d68
      @epicgamer3d68 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@CheesyYVIOhah get your reply to a reply liked

  • @JustSven-st6lg
    @JustSven-st6lg 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    I think the biggest mistake I see are cloak and dagger spies not understanding that “infinite invisibility” does in no way equal “infinite invincibility” as they sit in a corner in a small room, and wonder how the rocket happy soldier found them

  • @Vo1d_tyrant
    @Vo1d_tyrant 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    My issue with spy is i always think im obvious and just gonna be found out in milliseconds so i always stress out and get caught

    • @tf2isagoodgame282
      @tf2isagoodgame282 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Gaben himself has a little button on his desk labelled "increase sensitivity by 80%" that only works on my client and he presses it when he senses that im behind someone trust

  • @mudskie4394
    @mudskie4394 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Number 3 helped me gain alot of confidence on just tapping when I feel its a backstab, and boi it gave me a good chainstab with a spycicle as I was just going back to my team after getting the gargoyle at behind enemy lines

  • @heroiccarp
    @heroiccarp 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    This makes a cool refresher vid

  • @MrMigzQueOLD
    @MrMigzQueOLD 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I wanna add to this by saying don't always use the YER. I always use the YER, so when I swich off of it, I always think that I can get away with a stab and just stay there. Of course, I know when it's too chaotic for them to hear it and when they know I'm a spy, but I now cannot use any other knife. I'm too used to getting away with stuff, but not in the way of how the kunai dead ringer gets away with stuff.

    • @spooky_moron
      @spooky_moron 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've been using the yer a lot for my Halloween contracts lately and I can already tell going back to stock knife is gonna be hell

  • @nathandwiwidyanto8773
    @nathandwiwidyanto8773 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    As a spy main who died a lot, this video is helping me for playing spy. But Unfortunealy, My mind cannot Fit that knowledge because My Brain Storage is already full

  • @monothephantom
    @monothephantom 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm not a spy main or whatever, but probably one of my best spy moments was when I was approaching the payload cart from the enemy spawn direction disguised as a heavy and the sniper toward the back of the cart turned and started blasting to spy check, and in that moment I kept moving forward and just said went for the "thanks" voiceline. I was half dead but I guess I passed the vibe check because he went back to focusing on the cart leaving me to slowly approach. I killed everyone that was pushing the cart by being so stupid no one thought I would do something so dumb.

    • @RdTrler
      @RdTrler 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@monothephantom The voice commands are incredibly powerful because of the gestures that come with them. People tend not to shoot while using a voice command, so it's a great cop-out.
      Add to your current weapons that cost time to use (mini guns, melee, etc.) and you can get away with not left-clicking.

  • @popoy1015
    @popoy1015 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Im training to be spy again for the next seasonlander next year and your videos have helped me alot! Thank you so much!

  • @jed0bread528
    @jed0bread528 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    4:54 Your Eternal Reward users: Sweating Profusely**

  • @MoarCheeseBirb
    @MoarCheeseBirb 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Enemy lines is really important. Distracted players are easy marks. Lots of distractions on the front line. When going far behind enemy lines, your options go way down. Decloak sounds become audible, your disguises will be spychecked as they have nothing else to do, respawn wallhacks are super easy to spot you.

  • @elitely6748
    @elitely6748 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    And another great video once again. Another thing that could help is switching up your loadout occasionally to find what you really like, or add some variety.

  • @adrieleb1-gi2sh
    @adrieleb1-gi2sh 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    I didn't expect you to make a video this early

    • @Jontohil2
      @Jontohil2  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      I didn’t expect me to make a video this quickly either

    • @YourYoungGDYter
      @YourYoungGDYter 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Jontohil2it’s 10:00 lol

    • @ye23-eeee
      @ye23-eeee 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Jontohil2 this comment is a bot

    • @adrieleb1-gi2sh
      @adrieleb1-gi2sh 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ye23-eeee nuh uh lol

  • @piotr2147
    @piotr2147 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I remember seeing a video once that was like "l'etranger is bad spy's weapon, just learn where the ammo packs are on the maps" and then most maps in TF2 casual have horrible placement of ammo/ammo size

  • @NoobySwooby
    @NoobySwooby 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

    i got my first ever 5 chainstab yesterday

    • @ArrowPandaFode
      @ArrowPandaFode 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      good job!!

    • @Darksteelmangle
      @Darksteelmangle 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Nice job.

    • @shiny1556
      @shiny1556 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Big

    • @CloudytheCartoonist
      @CloudytheCartoonist 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I got my first 3 chainstab today (I gave 3 hours into the game and someone gave me your eternal reward)

    • @Timo-d2g
      @Timo-d2g 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Nice :)

  • @TheDoomsdayzoner
    @TheDoomsdayzoner 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am old as heck when it comes to spy - 10 years of experience.
    And yet I still make some of these mistakes, especially the scoreboard one.
    So yah, tbanks for the vid.

  • @xdarin_
    @xdarin_ 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The footage often featuring a comically shaky camera makes me feel better about my own shaky hands when playing Spy.

  • @cellulanus
    @cellulanus 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I was playing soldier, heard a decloak sound, did a 180 and instantly deleted a spy right behind me, who then accused me of hacking.
    And that's how I learned to not decloak behind people. By playing a class other then spy.

  • @YouDoRecogniseThem
    @YouDoRecogniseThem 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I mean, for #14, "luck" sometimes is probably more valid of an excuse. Considering:
    *those rare high moments*

  • @FuelWasd
    @FuelWasd 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    POV: YOU MAIN THE Y.E.R HEARING- *9 always using the L'Etanger.*
    Not saying you cant use the Y.E.R without the L'Etanger. I just find it inconvinent using the Y.E.R without it.

    • @00coolman1
      @00coolman1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Ive used the YER for around 2.5k hours. Maybe 100 hours of that was using the letranger. I find running either stock or amby is a good fallback on the off chance you wiff a stab and butterknife as you can just shoot them and slip away

  • @mix3k818
    @mix3k818 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Now I really wonder what the Spy Psychology finale will be

  • @aiex3832
    @aiex3832 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Every time I die from a spy check and go to get mad, I always remember when I play soldier or pyro and remember all the spies I’ve found by shooting behind me

  • @Randomdude-z3c
    @Randomdude-z3c 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Honestly being a pyro main and watching your videos daily make me feel the pain of learning spy. (I actually originally wanted to be a spy main but I changed to pyro after discovering combo pyro)

  • @agustincarrasco381
    @agustincarrasco381 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    11:39 VASS REFERENCE??!

  • @connorbyers2415
    @connorbyers2415 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As a spy main I do not believe that most people who stack spy are f2ps only. Quite frankly, many spy mains stack spy or people who aren't spy mains that have one thousand hours or more do often stack spy. From 2015 to 2024, I've noticed a trend in the TF2 community where people have grown more selfish. People do not care to even commit a minor but noteworthy sacrifice to fill in the roles of empty shoes on the team. People like to stack classes. You're on 5cp, 3 scouts, two snipers, two spies, 2 medics, 2 engies, one power class. People do not care about team composition, they do not care that they screw over their teammates, or even shooting themselves in the foot. For some reason, a steamroll is fun, even though both matches may have lasted 2 minutes at most. If you decide to play medic, yet your team is stacking classes, you can't do much when your team only cares about one person on their team, themselves.
    You can go medic and can't do anything because your team has nothing but light classes with limitations that soldier, Demoman, and somewhat heavy don't have as much as the squishier classes. The TF2 community has adopted this mob mentality mindset of "do whatever you want; it's casual." I cannot deny that stupidity can be fun, but this mindset has become so common that a good match suffers more than it usually would. People do their own things in a TEAM BASED SHOOTER, where the entire team will suffer with a speedy round.
    Fast rounds are not fun and bring more frustration and discourse between the players playing the game. Working as a team, just like in any physical sport where you actually feel that your match has merit, brings more unity and sportsmanship between people even if they may never see each other again. This allows the following random people you encounter to have this attitude because the community's positivity grows and blossoms like a flower, which makes the match-ups more exciting and keeps people engaged. There are matches where losing feels good and they're usually matches that have a good fight for several minutes with both team putting heart into it.
    The TF2 community has created this wildfire fire where only YOUR FUN AND ONLY YOUR FUN matters, even though your fun doesn't last long. Yet somehow, these people still find a steamroll to be fun. If anyone criticizes their team, that person is the bad guy even though the selfish idiot being, the 3rd or 4th spy, scout, sniper, medic, engineer, and sometimes Pyros is the saint we all should strive to be. If someone gets angry where the anger may be justified because quite a few people on a TEAM want to focus on themselves only instead of filling in for that needed medic, soldier, demoman, engineer, or heavy, get pissed because they're being told to switch their classes.
    I cannot express how many times in the last couple of weeks I have seen such a shitty team composition. Even Uncletopia has the issue, I joined, and for the previous two points on a payload match, my team had 3 spies. We lost within 3-4 minutes, with everyone dying left and right. Then when we were attacking, the same strategy was being used, 3 freaking spies. 4 minutes into the match, with a minute and some seconds left, they switched, and we pushed the cart into the first point. After that, the insane people switch back to 3 spies, 3-4 minutes in; after having 5 minutes and 25 secs, they finally switch back to other classes, and we get the point.
    As Jonto said, that is definition of insanity. I cannot comprehend that 3 attempts from my team to stack 3 spies would work, especially after seeing that when 1 or 2, if not all 3, switched, we captured the point. Maybe this had nothing to do with selfishness; instead had to deal with stupidity. Idk. But I voiced my opinion in team chat and I pissed off some players even though nothing in what I wrote was rude, I didn't cuss them out, I didn't use my mic. What I'm suggesting is that I think it was just the tf2 mentality of, "I'll play what I want, even if my team suffers, even if I suffer." People like to throw this mentality around that "it's just casual." It is a very abused analogy that harms the community, a person even at heart; it turns someone into a person who can't handle suggestions or constructive criticism. It makes them selfish. This type of thinking is cancerous and hurts the game and the community, it breeds toxic anger and hatred etc.
    If I get any comments from anyone, they will pull up the usual excuse; it's just a game. I say to that, say that all you want. Plenty of people leave certain games because of the toxicity of the people playing the game; it breeds terrible psychological health for the victims and perps of online harassment. At the end of the day, you are still playing with other human beings even though you don't see them face to face; every interaction irl and online affects people. Interactions have effects, whether good or bad, wherever they are.

  • @Knee6811
    @Knee6811 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    how dare you ping me at 3 am in the morning. i hope both sides of your spy pillow are warm.

    • @ThingInTheHall
      @ThingInTheHall 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Spillow

    • @CheesyYVIO
      @CheesyYVIO 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@ThingInTheHall can't sleep without my spillow

  • @alasdairsinclair916
    @alasdairsinclair916 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    6:32
    He got an assist in his own kill lmao

  • @carloswithapc
    @carloswithapc 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    As a professional spy main said “Spy Has A Gun”

  • @thebanditman5663
    @thebanditman5663 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Playing all revolver spy while blasting “Victory is ours,” from Waterloo is something every spy player must do at some point.

  • @Comically_Large_Watermelon
    @Comically_Large_Watermelon 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Random tips not associated with the video: How to use the deadringer in different ways: Number 1: Disguise as your own team’s Light Classes and hold deadringer out. Once eventually forced into cloak, run past the enemies and disguise as a player close to respawning on the enemy team

  • @Heby2149
    @Heby2149 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Spy round here

    • @cpucat
      @cpucat 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      🫵

    • @memesmemes3143
      @memesmemes3143 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      protect the intel

    • @Heby2149
      @Heby2149 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@cpucat
      Nope
      ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⣛⡉⢹⢛⣛⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⣫⡆⠀⣿⣷⣬⣼⡿⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⡘⢿⣾⡿⠿⠿⠛⢃⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣌⠫⠶⠿⠟⣋⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡏⠉⠏⠩⣭⣭⠉⠘⠉⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠠⠤⠴⢯⣭⢤⠤⢄⢰⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠋⠀⠀⠶⠬⢼⣸⣇⢠⠬⠼⠌⠀⠀⢹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⠙⠛⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀⠠⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⠏⠀⢀⣮⣅⣛⠻⠇⠿⢛⣃⣩⣴⠃⠀⠈⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣧⡀⠀⠘⢿⣿⠿⠟⠻⠟⣛⠻⢿⠿⠀⠀⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢀⠀⠀⠲⠈⣭⣭⢩⣭⡴⠐⠀⠀⡌⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⠇⣾⣷⣦⣀⠀⠀⠈⠀⠀⠀⣠⣴⣿⣿⡸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⡏⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣶⣤⣀⣴⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⢹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿

  • @jacobmorse6649
    @jacobmorse6649 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I may show up for the the Spyfacts but I definitely stay for Mario and Luigi music, 2:08 Fawful’s theme goes hard for spy

  • @nicholaserickson4851
    @nicholaserickson4851 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Top 14 mistakes YOU make
    1) Forgetting SPY HAS A GUN
    2) Willingly avoiding using spy’s primary weapon
    3) Using the sapper more than the primary
    4) Forcing trick stand when you have a ranged weapon
    5) Failing to recognize gun spy is a mindset you can switch to temporarily
    6) Forgetting you are playing a shooter
    7) Not firing a Pyro’s when you are outside the danger zone
    8) Ignoring the +100 aura gained from using a cool ass revolver
    9) Only using the L’Étranger as utility
    10) Ignoring you can gain ranged crits for doing your job.
    11) Ignore you can gain not so ranged crits whilst putting in more effort
    12) Reading this comment when you can be using your revolver
    13) Overusing the same joke when you can actually put it into effect
    14) Equipping the Enforcer

    • @victorborges2278
      @victorborges2278 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      15)sap and shoot buildings for destroy fast
      16)using the ambassador just for play as a sniper
      17)also again SPY HAS A GUN
      18) don't u dare to use red-tape recorder srly

    • @lazyvector
      @lazyvector 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Enforcer is basically stock with meaningless upside and negligible downside, why not equipping it

  • @TerryTheCalicoCat
    @TerryTheCalicoCat 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The best one I can act as Spy is Sniper. And guess what I main... Sniper.

  • @daggergaming3943
    @daggergaming3943 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jonto at 2:34 - explaining crucial info about why you shouldn't wait for the knife to raise
    Me: I'm sorry - FIVE PEOPLE IN ONE CHAIN??!

  • @skelemongrab4493
    @skelemongrab4493 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One thing I would suggest as well is to disguise as your teammates and be a part of the crowd with them in order to reach the frontlines.
    This prevents you from wasting cloak before you need it, and avoids immediate recognition that you are a Spy. (If the enemy sees a Spy, they see a Spy. If they see an out of position teammate, they see a Spy. If they see an enemy of another class, they will probably see that other class first.)
    This can also serve as an opportunity to deter enemy Spies, as you could disguise as a high-value target such as Medic or Sniper to bait them out or a class such as Pyro to make them think twice before making a play.

  • @Unfunnyguy2763
    @Unfunnyguy2763 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Tbh, you're the only spy main i respect

  • @myss1102
    @myss1102 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    my video stopped to buffer right after you said "stacking spy" and for a second i thought its ment to be a pre-scream prep joke kinda thing lol

  • @twatery_grave
    @twatery_grave 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    6:09 i love how he's shaking right here

  • @zac9181
    @zac9181 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    9:50
    Dude I almost quit TF2 because of this. I still suck, but I don't get angry anymore now that I unbinded tab. Thank you.

  • @Iambluespygaming
    @Iambluespygaming 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Do you know the definition of insanity.."
    -F2P spy

  • @The_overdrunken_one-
    @The_overdrunken_one- 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    8:55 *megalovania starts playing*

    • @yeet3169
      @yeet3169 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      8:56
      Sans: say no less

  • @TF2Legacy
    @TF2Legacy 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is a certified Spy main approved video

  • @Deiragazziedunavideocamera
    @Deiragazziedunavideocamera 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm a pyro main and surprisingly spy is my 4th most played class with 9 hours. I started to play him to see how it works, And even tho I don't enjoy to much that kind of gameplay, I really like spy. And play other classes helps you improve. Once I was able to fool a pyro (probably a newbie) but I pretended to be a sniper and it worked. Oh. One thing. I think that the best way to kill a pyro is by sneaking behind him. Since (on me) disguise don't work. Rarely I get fooled by A disguise. But still spy is a good class, and I enjoy playing with a spy on my team :)

  • @MettyOL-yu9ux
    @MettyOL-yu9ux 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ok nah, he is actually the best explainer i ever seen or heard. Like, he literaly said everything

  • @TheOneAndOnlyOrb
    @TheOneAndOnlyOrb 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These videos sound so useful and cool. And then you go into the game, and all you see is chaos, where the only advice you can get, is: pray

  • @FireCool2K
    @FireCool2K 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    bro yesterday i was crying bro.. i literally was pointing at someones back, and i clicked, it didnt backstab and i died.. IT HAPPENED 5 TIMES

  • @CH-wn4le
    @CH-wn4le 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    100K SUBSCRIBERS LET'S GO JONTO! :D Been here for a few years, and I'll be here for a few more. I love this channel, and I'm glad you're getting the recognition you deserve :)

  • @mykolas8575
    @mykolas8575 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    for 3, ALWAYS keep your viewmodels visible so you can tell when youre invis/holding that dead clock so you dont mess uip

  • @purple_demoman-mann
    @purple_demoman-mann 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    CONGRATS ON 100K!
    your spy series made spy my 3rd most used class!

  • @b____oobies
    @b____oobies 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To quote a lazy magenta man, "Who's gonna learn more? The guy who gets his head blown off and starts taking notes or the one making up excuses to mend their ego?"

  • @GET_TROLL3
    @GET_TROLL3 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is helpful as I'm new to tf2

  • @dwight3555
    @dwight3555 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pretty funny to see the "decloack makes noise" tip when so many clips are of you doing exactly at but being lucky the enemies are extremely bad or play with sound off.

  • @BernardBalingit-dt7fg
    @BernardBalingit-dt7fg 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He hit 100k! I’m so happy for you man, congratulations!

  • @JeanneFeisont
    @JeanneFeisont 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a Spy main since early 2008, my biggest tip is to practice using tbe Dead Ringer and being hyper aggressive. Even if you don’t like the Dead Ringer or people dog you for it, it will absolutely force you into many, MANY situations where you need to learn to act normal in a disguise and also to trickstab your opponents and find optimal escape routes when your Dead Ringer pops.

  • @callingcthulhu407
    @callingcthulhu407 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Speaking as a pyro main, don't forget that while Spy has a gun, *so does the Pyro*. What they have can greatly affect their threat depending on distance. Shotgun means they're still deadly at midrange, and having a flare/detonator means they can light you up from afar. Spy doesn't have much health, so even a few seconds of being on fire can make a difference. I've taken down more than one overconfident gunspy from afar after I nail them with two detonator shots and just vamoose while they die to afterburn.

  • @Spykitty358
    @Spykitty358 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a masochist Spy main with years worth of experience. I still enjoy watching these kinds of videos despite already knowing these mistakes. Plus Jontohil videos are great. Although lately i have found myself falling in the L'etranger syndrome of getting mentally stuck on that cloak bonus. Instead i use either Stock or Ambassador to practice my headshots. A good lesson to consider when playing Spy is to always expect BS games. You can't go into a game and expect to wipe the floor with the enemy team. Another thing to consider is the behaviour of the enemy. Finding the weak links compared to the strong ones. Which players are adapting and which are not. Keeping track of this can help you out sometimes but it won't always apply to other games. So just because you keep dominating one player or get away with the same stuff, doesn't mean it will work against someone else. Spy is a class that relies heavily on Chaos to be able to do his job. A majority of my bad Spy games boils down to my team not quite being as distracting as i need them to be. A team that's dominating has an easier time looking out for Spies then a team that's struggling with a deep push.
    The only time i would stack more then 2 Spies is only when the enemy team isn't doing anything about Spies (again back to the weak link thing but it's the entire team) or secondly for the French Revolution.

  • @GoldDragon20
    @GoldDragon20 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    12:11 you hit it!

  • @breadlof4429
    @breadlof4429 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm glad I did not fall for the KD ratio checking, I never was interested in that for the longest time I'm surprised people would focus on that.

  • @blacklight683
    @blacklight683 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    8:14 D: how dare you am literally unsuspecting right now (/j)

  • @davidcaceres9184
    @davidcaceres9184 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Mistake 14 is what Tony Stark avoids
    Because Tony Stark learns from his mistakes

  • @MIKE-xl2tt
    @MIKE-xl2tt 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ty for helping us, the newer Spy Mains, to understand the Problems we make, while playing Spy. I watch your Videos a Lot, to be a better Spy. Im Not a perfekt Spy, YET, but i became better. Ty for showing us how to Play Spy more effektiv. Have a good day Mate.

  • @Michael-f9f4d
    @Michael-f9f4d 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Old habits die hard so it is so hard to drop that W+M1 mentality for spy

  • @TheProfProfessor
    @TheProfProfessor 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    #15 Accepting that sometimes you’ll just die because the pyro around the corner heard your spy yell “yippee kayay” as loud as he could when killing an engineer

  • @unironicaly908
    @unironicaly908 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    i been watching videos about RFID hacking and lock picking so my dumb ass clicked on this thinking its about pen testing 😭😭
    love the video still im just stupid ❤

  • @festivepybro
    @festivepybro 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video but with 7, I feel like the best advice is to limit test. When you watch really good spies they’ll decloak while basically hip to hip with people all the time. You will obviously sometimes get 180’d and run over but the amount of kills you can get for free is absurd in a casual match.

  • @saxeladude
    @saxeladude 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tips I would give as I main spy too that this video doesn't cover is.
    1 - Being found isn't always bad: An enemy distracted for 5 seconds on the front line is a dead enemy.
    2 - Use your team: Despite most spy game play being about getting cool trickstab compilations. Spy is designed to support the team doing so usually by distracting or abusing distractions. An enemy can't check their back and front at the same time so try to not attack alone and stay near the front but out of fire.
    3 - Trick stab compilations are fake: While trick stab montages are really cool they are the highlights of hours of gameplay most of that time even for good spy players is spent in dead cam. 3 hours of gameplay being turned into a 10 to 15 minute video is a lot of crap gameplay cherry picked to show the best moments.
    4 - Get some basics: Spy is very complex and playing more isn't always going to teach you what's wrong. Spy requires a level of empathy of understanding how to get past enemies and manipulate habits not unlike fighting games. Get to know the basics before putting yourself on the line against a foe you have no knowledge of.
    5 - Aesthetics are important. The watch makes noise so be in loud areas, disguises can bug so be quick or redisguise, when disguised enemies can't see you take damage so hide your pain, you can use voice commands and reload your gun while diguised for better acting.
    6 - Be in position or you'll raise suspicion: using game sense be and move like the disguised class. if you don't know observe enemy hot spots where players gather and the movement route specific classes take and mimic them or attack from blind spots in their habits, disguising, redisguising, cloaking, and uncloaking take different lengths of time be sure your safe first before attempting. if not try to get out or force opponents out as fast as you can.
    7 - Be a social butterfly don't stick to one place too long and and don't stick around large groups of enemies. The best scenario for spies is a few heavily distracted players. Too many and when you stike at least one will see it, not distracted enough and you'll be dead on apporach.

  • @TheOnlyGamerXD7
    @TheOnlyGamerXD7 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im an engineer main who's a bit interested in spy, and was actually able to find a spy thanks to these vids. I was maintaining a three engie nest in a 2fort capture the flag when i bumped into a spy, so i pulled out my shotgun, but couldn't find him. about 6 seconds later, i hear an uncloak, and shortly after, see a friendly pyro. one spy check later, and i have one of my gameplay highlights because i caught the spy.

  • @PanzerKaiser1871
    @PanzerKaiser1871 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    btw thanks Jonto, your tutorials really helped me get good at spy.
    I started wearing the exorcizor in your honor

  • @TrueKrisDreemurr
    @TrueKrisDreemurr 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hey jon, i just wanted to say thank you for opening my eyes to spy
    i've always been not the best at spy, i died a lot but thanks to your videos i was able to look at this class from a more critical point of view.
    i'm still nowhere near as good as i want to be, and i make mistakes, and sometimes i don't learn from them, but hey that's what playing the game and thinking more is for.
    thank you, jon :)

  • @yeet6462
    @yeet6462 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Slightly weird video to bring it up in, but I had a thought for balancing the Diamond Back and thought I’d share: keep the damage nerf, and the storing crits as is; but add a 20% nerf to reload speed, and make crit shots consume 3 ammo upon firing.
    I think this would remove the annoying bits of it like killing heavies if you have enough stabs and making it a direct upgrade from stock as long as you’ve stabbed at least one person, while still keeping the weighty-ness of the original design and the storing crits mechanic that’s fun to play with.
    Just want some thoughts from anyone really.

  • @darkdestroyer6462
    @darkdestroyer6462 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I use notes to see how i died each match, i chalk up my death to a player name and my actions, i look at my K:D to see how many deaths j got and how many kills, kills being my success, i mainly look at my deaths, not really caring about the fail or win status of things, i then put it on a board i have nearby, and connect how i died tk how i died another time and i also take pics of the death type, explosion, backstabbed, burning, OOB, (oob stands for out of bounds.) ect.

  • @allenkeyed2157
    @allenkeyed2157 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    6:43 rip heavy colony

  • @spesppi
    @spesppi 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for this video
    I genuinely improved as spy with this

  • @ashlin_404
    @ashlin_404 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wanna say somethin: Some of these tips would help with playing other classes.
    For example the taking accountability tip: A pyro can constantly throw themself into a heavy and blame some Soldier across the map doing accidental chip damage, but it's the pyro's fault for jumping a class that can easily counter them. [Saying from experience I used to do that.]

  • @Automaton_unit
    @Automaton_unit 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I need that L-Etanger for the funny moment of decloaking infront of scoping snipers

  • @ethanbrandt8617
    @ethanbrandt8617 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love that the first rule is that spies follow Sith logic, there can only ever be two

  • @Martin-jw7jo
    @Martin-jw7jo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Have i ever told you the definition of insanity? It is doing the same sh*t over and over again and expecting something to change.
    THAT IS CRAZY

  • @yourfriendlyneighborhoodsc1447
    @yourfriendlyneighborhoodsc1447 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That first mistake drives me insane cause it ALWAYS happens with me. I'll join a game, see no spies on our team so I'll decide to play him, maybe get a little practice in, then I swear as SOON as I pick spy, like a minute later at least 2 other lemmings have respawned as him.

  • @AniArtistMe
    @AniArtistMe 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a Heavy Main who really wants to play Spy cause he has the coolest concept.
    I recently watched the Spy Psychology Videos and noticed that I actually played much better as Spy the other day.
    I have NEVER seen myself gotten more than 3 kills as Spy in Casual beforeI manage to get 6 Kills and 3 backstabs resulting 9 kills in total while getting 12 deaths.
    There were multiple cases where I had to ignore the potential kills or risk it which results to...
    A. somehow my team won or push much further than we expected
    Or
    B. I kinda made the right choice on some kills and others not.
    I also pick the proper loadout of how I should play Spy properly.
    E.g I avoid using the Diamondback and Kunai cause I need to rely on the weapons that can work better and is more of a Beginner Player instead on using the more Expert weapons.
    Thanks for your Video guides for Spy. I got better playing as Spy than before.