Baby Reindeer: Real Life Martha Fiona Harvey given right of reply | Jeremy Vine
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- The woman accused of being the real life Martha from the hit Netflix show 'Baby Reindeer' has come forward and denied being a stalker.
The show is on track to become one of Netflix’s most popular shows of all time, with over 56 million views so far BUT for anyone that hasn't seen it let me explain....
The show is based on comedian Richard Gadd's real life experience with a stalker.
He develops a warped and complicated relationship with an older woman named Martha after meeting her at the bar where he works.
Although she initially appears to be friendly, her behaviour unravels in to something sinister
He accused her of constantly following him to comedy gigs, showing up at his house, attacking his girlfriend, sending him a staggering 41,000 emails, 350 hours of voicemail, 744 tweets, 46 Facebook messages and 106 pages of letters.
The show sent the internet into meltdown with cyber sleuths trying to track her down - But, the real life "Martha", who is actually law graduate Fiona Harvey, has come forward and denied the claims Gadd made against her in the show.
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If it's not her....she would not be bothered. I watched the entire interview. It's perfectly HER!
What it does for me is confirm what a brilliant writer Gadd is. You could see shades of "Martha" in the interview. I thought it was interesting how she almost turned on Morgan. I wonder if she'll stalk him.
She doesn't mean it's not her literally, she is saying Richard made up things like her going to prison and being convicted of stalking him etc and so far there is 0 proof of that.
She came across as more Martha than Martha, actually. 😮
What a dangerous thing to do...giving a convicted stalker a platform
She's not sick of the attention...she wants to cash in on the gig! 🤣
She actually made a point about it being her who penned the title. I wonder if she will go down this route to get her share of the royalties.
She’s obsessed with him making money from it. This is her primary motivation
I was in prison with her
who said fiona is marthar lol. neither richard nor netflix did. the only one who confirm who martha is fiona herself. richard can easily say it's not her. :3
She’s just admitted a lot of the incidents in the tv happened but not by her by Gadd,for example the curtains scene.
I said this on the actual interview on his channel.... she outted herself 😂 (Piers youtube channel)
So true about the double standards. On top of everything else she allegedly sexually assaulted Gadd, if that was a male stalker they would not be getting airtime. The fact nobody is discussing his male groomer/rapist supports that. The man is apparently known in the industry. Shouldn’t he be named and questioned by police??
This is an interesting take and speaks to her claim he is a misogynist.
His identity is protected.
If he is known in industry as a rapist, its clear all he needed was money from Netflix and perhaps fame as he is not a great comedian/ showman whatever his title is ! 😂😊😅
Nonsense. I was stalked and the police did zero. I think you're right to ask about the male who assaulted him, she didn't touch him yet it's spun to be her. He's apparently very well known.
@@karenm8239 the police need to do better. But I still don’t think an alleged male stalker who committed sexual assault and violent crimes would get treated in the same way by the public and media as a female who did the same. Having said that we don’t know what really happened and what the truth is.
She, in fact, is a bit odd. 😅
Yes, obviously she has some personality issues
Was she considered dangerous, or more like a pest?
Agree. She seems not be upset at all
She doesn't have a boyfriend - if so, it's in her fantasy head.
Ooor, bear with me, she HAS a boyfriend, but he doesn't know about it (yet)
This is not almost a documentary it is a work of fiction based on real events, saying it's a true story does make it a doc. This person was interviewed before this and she is now stalking and threatening that reporter. Gadd wrote and has performed this story hundreds of times, he even won an Olivier for it on stage. One of the things that come up in the story is her lies. She lied in the interview, saying she didn't know then she didn't email him, but she did know him, and email him, she even confessed that she called him Baby Reindeer. She needs help and I hope she gets it. The idea that a fictional account of real events that changed the name of the person portrayed could be the subject of a lawsuit is absurd.
The series is a docu-drama, based on his real life. This show is actually very empathetic towards the character Martha and, of course, being a TV show, it is a work of self-fictionalization, that's why certain details are changed. This woman is clearly unwell. Of course everything that she's denying can be checked, but she's not in a good state.
On what planet is show sympathetic to the character of Martha?!
@@leelujan9816even when it showed he went to police he said he doesn’t think she should be in trouble for it per de but that she obviously needed help
Many areas of this series showed sympathy
Can someone please check if she did go to jail or not?!
Yes mental health not police record
She contradicted herself so many times during her interview it’s hard to believe anything she says. This entire thing has become a circus when it could have been an important lesson in awareness for what men, often in silence, have to rndure
I believe she did stalk him but certain events have been massively exaggerated like canal scene and also the prison sentence. The thing is I think the equally big story is the Darrian (a high powered figure in the comedy world who preys and and grooms young comedians) rape which no one seems to be talking about.
I said this all along and I think this male whoever he is is the trigger for Gadd and his embellishments of events with Martha. I do believe she stalked him but not to the extent as portrayed. As the lady on the panel stated its somewhere in between
And Netflix shouldn’t call it “a true story” it opens them up to being sued and losing.
They did say the part where she was in court and got sentenced was not true, but like already said if they say it was a true story then they should't add things like that to dramatise it.
Totally agree. Fiona is a nutcase but I guess she came out on TV herself whereas the male abuser hasn't so that is why sadly it has taken a back-burner
I went to school with Richard, back then I was a spotty rather unpopular young man who was going through a lot of gender identity issues behind the scene and had also been a victim of an SA by an older man, I found Richard to be quite a mean person who was more than willing to engage in use of homophobic slurs against me and my few friends and was more than happy to be the bully to fit in with his group and not seem gay.
Our guidance teachers were Ms Hutchinson and Mr Tarvet we attended Madras College.
I am glad to see that Richard has lost some of his less savoury behaviours and improved with age. I wish him well. Perhaps he has now a better understanding of the power of other peoples behaviour to cause hurt and as a victim of other people maybe he can now understand that I forgive his actions but will never forget them and the impact they had on my younger self.
We all grow up and change through life experience. Life humbles everyone
@@NelsonVanDweller hope so, a humble apology would be nice and useful for my trauma.
@@thomazpank school is a tough time for many. Everyone is desperate to fit in and act out of fear . As hard as it may be I wouldn't take it personally. Try Ur best to move on.
Not much has changed so....don't like him
@@NelsonVanDweller your trauma 🤣
Netflix should come at Fiona with an offer to make a rebuttal series. From the Eyes of Martha a baby reindeer saga.
No.
@@ChristeneLedoux Ok. It will be called.... Curtains Closed.
@@seattleryan5721😅
She didn't know where he lived, yet she sent him letters, at least 1...
The tweet said a letter was sent to the theatre
Fiona Harvey has not been accused of anything. Get it right.
Well she did admit she had 4 phones and 6 email accounts i have never known anyone' of my friends that had that many
I have over the course of my life. This is common for professionals. Separate personal email from public email is reasonable.
I know people t have loads of emails address but thats because they want a new deliveroo/ uber eats account 😂😂😂
I literally have 8 email accounts 😂. Granted few of those are over a decade old and I don’t use it anymore but they are active and I can still log in them 😁
I probably have around that many, but that's because I lose the passwords or want a new free trial of something 😂
I've been using email and cell phones since the services were launched. 40 plus years! Of course I have 5 or 6 email addresses, not including work tools, and 10 phones. The idea you have one phone and one email is absurd!
I think the rape is the key to his story..that horrific event and relationship was the core issue, his passivity and lack of treatment or going to the police made him vulnerable to a stalker, she was disturbed but he was troubled so deeply and the show makes her out to be the bad one..the rapist is and Gadd does not stand up to him .
You are so right about the double standards. Thank you for saying that.
Yes we should be sceptical of all such claims by alleged victims.
She's LOVING the attention.
Netflix are loving the attention $$$
The woman has absolutely no control over the attention. And, judging by the comments under every video about this, she’s in for an absolutely awful time. And if she wasn’t vulnerable before she certainly is now
Stalkers don't admit to being stalkers.
“Based on a true story” as they claim in the show, leaves room for artistic interpretation. Sorry, but Netflix owes her nothing.
It actually says, “This is a true story.” That’s where the issue is.
But it doesn't say that does it? So whats your opinion on it now?
I watched the credits up through the end, it clearly states that in accordance with the law, elements have been changed, dramatized, and added. There’s no story here.
@@TT_09 So you can start with 'This is a true story' then literally make up anything you want and that's fine?
@@trillshox2281 As the end credits Legally say: “This program is based on real events: However certain characters, names, incidents, locations and dialogue have been fictionalized for dramatic purposes.” So, yes in a word, it’s fine. This is not a documentary.
She is a bloody liar!
Remember, she changed her name
Gadd, though, says he felt bad for his real-life stalker and didn't want her jailed.
He told The Times: "I felt a great deal of empathy for the real-life Martha.
"I didn’t want to throw someone who was that level of mentally unwell in prison."
Instead, Gadd admits errors with his own behaviour
He stated explicitly that she never went to prison that was added in, but the stalking was true
Lying she's horrible
She contradicted herself A LOT in that interview....
That man on the pannel is spot on. If this was the story of a male stalking a woman, there would not be so many people trying to find holes in the victim's story.
Yep. I agree with him completely. There is a double standard and it should be highlighted.
Totally agree. Hypocrisy is staggering when a man is the victim. Am team RC.. Fiona outed herself.. also please tread carefully when she says press and online people found and were harrassing her.., she’s most likely made it up… just like her other contradictory stories
Remember the movie FARGO. It began like this "This is a true story", nuff said.
*Everyone is missing the point - we should be focussing on the TV guy*
They're both crimes.
Esther is such a queen.
Imagine if one of your ex's decides to make money out of past relationship, how would you feel being exposed and threatened ???
If I stalked them, I'm fair game.
I dont think in general people are that fussed over whether some of the details were 100% or not, in general it seemed to have nailed the character and behaviour of the individual. Which if anything have been reinforced by the appearances. The reason its such a big hit is that in the main people are fed up of unhinged people ruining others lives through their delusions and then denying what they did even when theres a mountain of evidence to show that they did.
what evidence
@@truthbearer3891 🤣
@@truthbearer3891 Well Laura Walker came forward as she allegedly harassed her and her then M.P. husband Jimmy Wray. Allegedly in 1997, So there's a pattern to her behaviour.
It claims to be “a true story” that may be their downfall in court.
@@fashunpuss6279 it also says some parts of the story have been made up, thats the small print.
They don’t acknowledge that Richard Gadd talks about how he didn’t go to the police partially because of the injustice of her seeing consequences and his r@&ist not seeing consequences because of power. I agree with the consultant that the onus is on Netflix but I think it’s important that artists can tell true stories.
What sort of onus? We have no way of knowing what due diligence they did. Gadd still has the voicemails etc.. What is a production company supposed to do? Every story they produce if there are living folks could come forward with a claim, "It didn't happen that way!" If he named her I'd more fully agree with her. This is his story and as you say he has the right to tell it.
It also doesn’t say it’s a documentary. It’s clearly a dramatization. The story can be true without each and every detail being factual. They didn’t use real names for a reason. People only found Fiona Harvey because all of her crimes were done out in the open on Facebook and Twitter. The only person I’m mad at in this situation is Piers Morgan for exploiting this woman and giving her a platform to further victimize Richard Gadd.
Crimes? There's no record of a conviction.
If Gadd is allowed to make a story based on her and make millions, she has every right, as she asked to do, to defend herself and give her side of the story.
Gadd did encourage her at the time, he admits to that, so he probably got off on someone being obsessed with him. He may have even thought it would make a great comedy show.
Agreed the fact that the rapist identity is protected is crazy.
This isn’t a story about a stalker and victim. We just saw it from Gadd’s point of view - which is a very privileged position to be in.
It was really the story of two screwed up people and their relationship.
Had anyone written a series from her POV we may be seeing things in a completely different way
The relationship was in her head. As far as privileged, I wouldn't feel that way if I was stalked & r___d.
@@tereseday4060 as i say, you’ve only heard it, on tv, with all the money and production values of Netflix. Even then you can hear that things weren’t exactly a one way street. Do you think you’ve got an even handed story?
I understand your point of view. However, I assure you that in the majority of cases where the man is guilty, many will condemn him directly without considering his perspective. Moreover, have you watched the series? You will see that Richard Gadd has been very self-critical, and honestly, very few people would have such audacity. There is tangible evidence of the conversations.
@@clareshaughnessy2745 He's not the first person she has stalked.
Her name was Muir Havery and she dropped the Muir, someone said they looked it up and she had been in trouble, I may be wrong just going off what I read.
She also said she hadn't watched the series, well if that was me I would defo watch it before I went public and denied anything, she said she was just told about it. I didn't believe her one bit.
There is 0 proof of her being convicted of anything or going to prison. Im not saying she is 100% honest about everything but she has no reason to lie about something that can easily be proved and so far hasn't been.
@@trillshox2281 Yes you are right she has no reason to lie over something that can easily be proven, like the emails and text etc.
@@trillshox2281 Google Fiona Muir
We are inside "black mirror", crazy story
Its like a messy divorce
Back and forth
Like a bad tennis match 😂😂😂
I don’t believe her, her mannerisms, the way she speaks, to me it’s shifty and screams lies, whether it was as bad as the programme made out I couldn’t say but I certainly think most of its true.
i reckon she stalked him but not to the extent as claimed. Also we don't know how much Gadd did encourage her or if he got a kick out of her obsession over him, as some people do.
do you really think Netflix DIDNT do their true diligence
It was very uncomfortable to watch.but fascinating.
Why he didn't block her ? They were and are both sick in their head.
When he blocked her that person would open a new account
Would you feel sorry for a male stalker?? Well done to old mate calling this out🙌
Why has she never consulted a lawyer before gaffing on TV interviews is a mystery for another show.
At the end of the day, Gadd is a writer and she was providing material while he was providing her with attention. Agree that the rapist should be revealed
We need Baby Reindeer Chapter 2: Martha's Perspective
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@@thepracticalmystic8525 Tranny Reindeer : Brand New Curtains ( told by Terry )
I think we already got it in the Pier’s interview. And considering the number of contradictions she already made in that interview it’s obvious that she will be an unreliable narrator
So she is hotting every media outlet that will have her on..
That guy Richard is a bit unstable and wanted to cash in on making stories to an extreme. Maybe she was a bit ‘ pushy’ ( most women who fell for a man are like that) in that interaction but not to that extent.
I do feel they should of said “based on a true story “ if there are little details that aren’t right
More details will probably come out later..
They stated early on that there had been several differences deliberately made so that people would not recognize her.
She's a very sick woman.
Huge details more like it's not little to show she plead guilty and went to prison if it never happened.
The huge red flags we are not talking about is the fact that Richard Gadd told this story about a troubled middle-aged woman and NOT about him being groomed and r#ped by older rich successful man. But yet his whole show was focused on this lady. People will do anything for fame and if hes not telling the truth about this woman, its will be absolutely disgusting that someone is willing to use a troubled person just for fame. Something definitely isn't right here. 🤔👀
So if she is troubled, that’s a pass to stalk and harass him? Do you know the mental toll it can take on someone?
@Sarahlee358 Of course not. Obviously. But it's the lesser of two evils. Meanwhile, the r@pist get off Scott free. And nobody thinks this strange that he didn't focus more on that.🤔
@@Sarahlee358 Also we don't know how much Gadd encouraged it. We also don't know if he got off on it, as some people do like to get someone hooked / fall for them, only to turn the tables to make them out to be a stalker.
Is that really MArtha though? She has denied it
She harassed Scottish member's of parliament many years before allegedly stalking Gadd. It was 25 years ago: There was speculation that the perpetrator was Harvey, only her name is reported as “Fiona Muir.” It states, “Solicitor Mrs Wray has become the target of Fiona Muir, whom she sacked from a trainee post at her firm, McPhail Lawrence Partnership, in 1997.
“Since she was dismissed, she has contacted Mrs Wray’s office with a series of threatening phone calls and even turned up at her house on one occasion.”The article goes on to say that Wray was so concerned, she’d made “an official complaint to the police” and “issued her staff with panic alarms.”
Wray herself has since spoken out about the Netflix series, describing her experiences with Harvey as similar to those of Baby Reindeer creator Richard Gadd’s. But the confirmation of her surname only appears to corroborate older reports about the case.
So why is she coming forward. Makes no sense at all.
She denies the story is true. But even with things she has said it’s clearly her. Admitting she had a baby reindeer toy, she admits to the article written about her about stalking the other woman. There are lots of tweets sent to Richard from her account. However she clearly lies in that interview. Saying she didn’t know where he lived but sent him a letter.
Also she has showed the same behaviour to a reporter. Constantly calling the reporter, threatening him, sending a lot of rapid texts.
Also I have no idea if it was her but I was in the comment section of the interview and someone was rapid replying to people in defence of her.
There were typos, the user name was what gadd describes, a lot of random letters and numbers.
I said are you Martha?
She said no but I wish I was.
Which I think is weird to say as who would want to be someone accused of this? I really think it was her.
This account was calling him a homo, a liar. Saying free Fiona! Free Fiona! She’s innocent! And saying it on almost every comment and replying to anyone to replied to her.
@@JunitunesFirst she said she didn't have the toy. Her stories go back and forth.
If it was a man there would be no allowance she was violent ..wake up
where is the proof she was violent?
noone has a right to stalk anyone ever its good he made the programme as it gives men a chance for it to be seen that they can also be stalked and drugged raped and if it helps more men by him doing this thats great as men are not listened to enough when it comes to this or men being abused by women which happens its not right for men or women to do this to anyone ever
Except they're saying much of what he said about the woman isn't true, as she has never been in prison for stalking, and has been stalked herself because of the programme that he has made money from.
he went to the police but they didnt help him @@olgapavlova585
plenty people make money out of whats happened to them or others playing their part it does not mean it didnt happen look at the ones that keep writing books about their lives whats the difference @@olgapavlova585
plus he didnt name her did he it was ones going after her that did this which is not ok either@@olgapavlova585
Past changing the names to protect the identities…. I don’t believe anyone has any responsibility to change a persons story? I live in the States and just find this a very disturbing precedent against free speech.
I remember when changing the names and a few identifying details and locations was enough.
I believe we all have a right to share our personal stories. We need to share more stories like this especially from our male family and friends who need the public’s support to speak out and she’s light , love and support to abuse victims and help them know it’s ok to share and we love you and are with you!
I wish that this story not be commandeered by the abuser and we keep the focus on the male victims.
She didn’t have to go public. All this negotiations-court, could be done in private behind closed doors and with no cameras….. at this point I’m sad she’s the focus instead of the abuse of men and the shame that keeps them from standing up for themselves and getting justice, healing, support and the love they deserve.
My 2 pence ✌️
the very sad thing here is she could get medication and get help and really improve her life. she's not a bad looking woman, intelligent, and very verbal, if she could get medication to control her mental health issues she might be able to get off benefits, get a job, and have at least a little of a life with the time left to her.
Netflix has gotten away with worse..
She’s said to have a mental health record not police record
Great panel. Thank you to the male anchor to acknowledge that there was an sexual assult that noone is talking about and that guys identity is being hidden and protected ... he did it who know how long and is still doing it probably.
Piers Morgan must’ve offered some after-care regarding mental health surely
she might stalk him now lol.
She's sent him 50 emails since the show.
From iPhone
I feel like we need to find the trans lady and ask her if things really happened as he says in the series
Why is the lovely Ester on this show with the bike ponce?
It’s very difficult, cause they both seem a little crazy. ☺️
Netflix never said their show is depicting this Fiona Harvey. Yes Netflix said it is a true story and has a character named Martha who was stalking Donney. But the show never said it is this woman, but in reality, Fiona herself is claiming that she is that character of Martha. So she herself has to prove that she is that Martha in all accounts. She went to have an interview believing the show intentionally put her to harm. Richard won’t write something that didn’t happened to him. Yes, he uas as well creative freedom as that show is a drama, a tv series! And people should understand that IT IS NOT A DOCUMENTARY.
It is ridiculous that people are blaming Richard Gadd and Netflix wherein even the character of Richard Gadd, the name was even changed to Donney. Obviously, this Fiona is milking every opportunity now knowing the show is a hit and now she is playing the victim card, going to an interview, saying she is that character Martha yet denying so many things. So what is the truth about you Fiona? Hmmmm
41000 emails over 3 years is approximately 37 a day, very doable if you are a stalker
Fiona makes me feel sorry for her. She is clearly in great difficulty, with serious psychiatric disorders, and profoundly alone. I think the best thing is to respect her privacy, this is the reality, not Netflix.
My thoughts are, yeah she’s probably like the character in the series and embarrassed as well as delusional and in denial about what transpired between her and Richard - but what about the man who sexually abused Richard Gadd? The man he had PTSD/revelations about that prompts him to personally admit that he should actually be reporting that man to the police rather than a lonely, mentally-ill, woman who was so infatuated and obsessed with him that she ultimately stalked and harassed him, which is also considered criminal behavior, which she obviously needs diagnosed and treated for the mental illness that drives her actions. What about the sexual assault from the man in the tv and film industry who actually committed the crime of raping Richard Gadd? Why aren’t the Internet sleuths searching, stalking, and threatening him? I’m sure he could be found, too, especially if Richard’s friends during that time leaked the man’s name. I would like to see him try and explain himself in an interview/interrogation like this woman.
I thought it was more a reflection on his involvement and the fact he wasn't blame free for getting himself in that situation ...
absurd. if she didn’t come forward it wound have died off. she is a sick stalker. nothing difficult. end says there are things changed/dramatized…DOES NOT HAVE SPOTLESS RECORD STALKED A PARLIAMENTARIAN AND FAMILY. The case did not get her to jail because family decided it would make it worse…
It says
“This is a true story by Donny Dunn”
So… based on truth but with added dramatisation
I do not think it was her. She is enjoying the cash and attention. Media will go after Netflix once more. (Where have we seen this before)
As she is going to admit to being a crazed stalker sending 41,000 emails
Nah she hates him, she’s in the if I can’t have you phase. They’re both fucked tbh.
Haven't seen the NF thing, but isn't it his story from his perception? Therefore his truth? Say he's getting worked up and stressed out, looks up info he gets wrong so he genuinely thinks she's a convicted stalker and reacts accordingly. Nobody has lied, it's a genuine mistake that then engenders a negative reaction and round and round the drain we go.
Watch the interview with her. It confirms all you need to know.
@dean6372
Yeah, I just have. She's a "right fighter" for sure, all that matters to her is that she be right. Even irrelevant minutiae, she contests everything. Exhausting. The "boyfriend" is either non-existent or deaf.
I'm not saying it in defence of her, just that our own perception is a huuuuge part of reality and when we're frightened the monster seems bigger. We become hyper-sensitised and Netflix have a while load of wiggle room because they're telling a true story from one pov. We all know there are three sides to all stories; his, hers and the truth.
@@randomhumanoidblob4506 yes agree. how do we know she’s not part of the Netflix plan, they may be paying her to come out and say these things, the whole thing could be made up for all we know. If Netflix and this guy are claiming something true, then it must of been already properly investigated, there are facts,there is evidence available and witnesses, all we have is his version of events and a show that’s now currently making loads of £££ based on internet spin.
It's not "his truth" to show she plead guilty and went to prison for stalking him and his parents if it never happened.
@trillshox2281
But we all make perceptual mistakes all the time. One person can be "in love" (entirely perception) whilst the object of that love might not reciprocate. Or look at every war in history; both sides are equally convinced they are right.
He didn't out her and I'm just saying this is NF 's wiggle room. It's HIS story from his pov and doesn't claim to be anything other. Whether it's right or not could be argued as entirely perception, including the fact he could be operating on misinformation. And when we're scared we see monsters under the bed.
Truth is a very nebulous concept where feelings are involved. Our "truth" is absolute, but only to us. All he has to say is "its not her."
. Now 10 days since they aired this I bet they are wondering how they could of been so wrong lol 🤣
Do you know Pierce Morgan really knows how to stir up things that I must say. It says this is a true story, but he did say on an interview. I can’t remember the way he worded it, but when I hear the word documentary, I expect it to be true when I hear this is a true story. I’ve heard that on so many different shows so why didn’t the why didn’t anybody sue Netflix or Megan and Harry lying the whole time?
I think if anyone has a case to sue for libel , it's the people who in the comedy production world who's names are being put out there being accused of being the alleged rapist. As Jeremy knows himself, being libelled by ignorant online "detectives" is no laughing matter.
If the gender roles were reversed
This wouldn’t be the case
This is pure sexism
I think people maybe missing the point here. At the start of the series it states "This is a true story" not meaning that it is true reflection of actual events but that ii is truly a story. All of the Fargo series episodes state at the beginning this is a true story. I didn't cotton on until I saw an interview with one of the Coen brothers. It's just a subtle play on words.
It should say “based on true events”.
I read there's a disclaimer at the end.
HER DENIAL IS SIMPLY A FURTHER ATTEMPT AT BULLYING. SHE CAME FORWARD. NO ONE FORCED HER TO. SHE MADE HERSELF PUBLIC. AND NOW SHE IS ANGRY ABOUT TRUTH BEING TOLD AND THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS BEATING HER AT HER OWN GAME.
She mader herself found. Because she is a bully. And that is what she is doing now
You just know she is lying when she said ' he asked me to sleep with him' ! I mean, really !!!
After 2min into the interview with Piers I just thought its Susan Boyle all over again, slightly disturbed lady now to be publicly humiliated by the masses, sad really!
They got the way she talks from the voicemails.
Na! Netflix won’t pay her she’s hurt too many!
at the end on the credits it states some parts fictionalised!!!!!
I don’t believe. It. Who in their right mine plays them selfs In a movie. Where they get. Stalk and tormented no one wants to o through hell like that again. His laughing all the way to the bank.
Her nephew and an ex prisoner have also outed her and confirmed she went to prison, also the rapist is widely believed to be Gary Reich.
the nephew has been outed he made up the story for a laugh
@@coralieelliott2076 Oh, the crim got caught in a lie too! What is going on? I definitely believe she did, but how's she hiding it? Maybe they sent her to secure hospital and that's confidential? Who knows? I want her to stalk Piers morgan for this money, I actually want to see more of her! I'm turning into baby reindeer! 🤣🤣
@@jimjames4348 There use to be a saying don't believe anything you hear and only 1/2 of what you see--now I believe we also can't believe anything we see as well
@@coralieelliott2076 WHAT??? You're defo her aren't you? 🤣🤣🤣
A lot of the interview, for a good 10 minutes, he kept coming back to this.” In interviews about the series, Gadd said while Baby Reindeer was fictionalized for the Netflix series, he noted that, “Emotionally, it's all 100% true. What was fictionalized and what does emotionally 100% true even mean? Why are the media going for this woman instead of attempting to verify Gadd's story? I cannot find a single person that has come out and said they witnessed anything. That pub has been frequented by many, people are bound to know Fiona, saw her behaviour? She went to that pub, must have been quite a character, how do we know he didn't just use her for a story, using her previous history and made it about himself? Everything he says may be true but what if it isn't? The truth is nobody knows, someone needs for find out
I'm sure Netflix Attorneys check things. They're not ignorant.
To be fair ,they are all looking fir someone to blame , if she hadnt stalked him in the first place they wouldnt be sat there discussing this ,! Its not Netfilxs' fault
Often when people are sentenced they are not named. Especially if they are mentally unwell..... So she may have been!!
People keep saying that it's easy to find out but has anyone looked? Seriously
Im not concerned about her ,she is obviously a liar
Who is the beautiful woman on the panel?
... Curious as to what we're being distracted from 🤔
OK, Russell Brand, LOL.
LOL what a weird/weak argument. There’s ALWAYS stuff happening at the same time. If anything, people are prone to look for distractions when the world is going through chaotic times.
It doesn,t affect us.Nice distraction from real problems.
We're being distracted from YOU
Distracted by who is the rapist ,we only talk bout Martha and gadd but what bout the rapist
I notice how they aint interviewing him 😅😅😅😅
So we're questioning if it 'Martha' but we whole hearted that there's a rapist? Most of it is made up with some stuff based on real characters...
Im on Richards" side ,!
She changed her name though She said her name was Fiona Muir- Harvey an she could have gone by Fiona Muir....so she could very well have been to prison its just not under the name of Fiona Harvey
I hope she doesn't get a dime. it would do nothing for her delusions. Netflix made have used the court case to wrap things up. 99% of it I'm sure is true