I was disappointed when I bought my Denon-4100W receiver, but after trying all these my system pounds now. Night and Day difference. I'm so thankful that I came across these videos I have been pretty bummed out the past year because my system wasn't delivering. I don't like the reference EQ settings either and I had no idea that FLAT was still EQ'd so I never tried it. Now my system sounds like how it should! Thanks man!
I absolutely love feedback like this! Glad it worked out for you. For good measure, check out my Bass Hack Series. Might find a new setting or technique in there. Thanks for the comment!!
I'm watching this video again right now. I watch your videos several times a day at least 6 days/wk because they are very informative. I'm sitting on the couch with my tape measure comparing and adjusting distances with audyssey. Working on crossover points now. Keep up the good work. Your videos are a good blend of techy and non techy advice. Earlier in life, I did my fair share of touring with bands as a lighting designer. Had I known what I know and am learning now about audio, I would have chosen audio as my career. Just saying...This stuff is fascinating. Ok I'm babbling, back to crossover points.
Thanks for all of your videos. It's nice to see someone whose not slaved to the typical crossover orthodoxy. My system has a front array of RSL's CG5-CG25-CG5, Surrounds are CG3s and therr are four SVS Prime Elevation as F/R heights. The AVR is a Denon X3700 and the sub is an SVS PB-1000 Pro (one great piece of kit). Howard and Joe Rodgers had recommended setting the front speakers at 80 and the Surrounds at 90. After Audyssey did its thing, I did set the crossovers as 80 up front, 100 on the Surrounds and 80 for the Elevations. Because, at my age, I've lost some of my higher frequncy hearing, I found that even with the excellent CG25 Center, voices could sound a bit thick or "muddy". After watching this video, I set the CG5s at 90 and the CG25 at 100 and, viola, voices were much sharper and detailed. I bumped the CG3s to 110 and the Elevations to 90 and ended up with a much smoother immersive sound. It just goes to show you that you really have to take some of the typical recommendations with a grain of salt and let your own ears tell you what works best for you.
Your doing a lot of good work. I appreciate what you did here a great deal. What you do on this channel is real and a real help to us geeks 😏😊. Again I just encourage you to keep it real and I will always be here on your channel
@@Subwoofer101 damn, you have some of the best content out there! I just used some of your hacks and my system sounds brand new. I have the Denon 4700 B&W 686-s2 as fronts, B&Whtm62-S2 for the center and B&W M1 as surrounds. This completely made my system sound sooo immersive. I just ordered the SVS ULTRA tower theater package along with 4 prime height speakers to fully get the most out of my Denon and can’t wait to use this configuration. I currently have a B&W Pv1D and Bose accoustimss 15 as my second sub. I’m going to run the SVS PC2000 pro and see what the whole system sounds like. I might trade the PC2000 for a PB2000 pro and get duals.
I have found your videos to be very educational for a non audiophile.....and your explanations are meant to be understanding to beginners. For that reason is why I now subscribe to your channel.. Thank you
I tried the 'add an extra 4ft' to the sub and yes it improved the bass in so far as it now isn't localised. However I did get a text off the neighbour asking me to turn it down. 6 yrs with no issues from them. So, I guess it worked for my setup :-)
I used the same settings with my denon x1300 + HCS626 Jamo + Onkyo Atmos Speakers+Yamaha YST SW 012 Advanced YST II and the result is so much better now. The sound is amazing:) Thank you!
Thanks for your video. Not sure about your speaker distancing. Distances that Audyssey sets are acoustic distances and ao at best left alone unless the sound is causing issues. Informative nonetheless.
Great tips of tweaking! I have a single SVS pb-1000 setup and got a good black friday deal on a Denon X3300W AVR which has the same setup menus. Also I found measuring with Audyssey with close cluster as noted in this write up, chapter 7 graph 101.
Honestly, I would personally go with the 3800, the 6200 is pretty old in AVR years, and the 3800 has more features. The HDMI functionality is better. You also get a warranty. You might not notice the picture quality, but the functionality is just better, more reliable, and quicker when making changes.
I know this is an older video, but i am curious if you are still running your crossovers this way. If you are, i was curious if you're losing some of your mids to the subwoofer because you are running them this way. I was thinking about trying out your method, but my surrounds are pretty nice and get down to 39htz, and i don't know if i want to lose some of that bass and mids. This video was very informative, and thanks for sharing.
No important losses that I could tell, just more dynamic bass. 90 hertz for the towers and center, 120 hertz for the surrounds. Love it, and you should try it. Free, and easy enough to change back.
Right on, you can look at the dialog setting and try adjusting it. Not sure what option the 2300 has, my x2000 was actually more adjustable, allowing you to reduce dialog, but the X6200 only has Dialog Enhancer "low medium and high". Dynamic EQ is "on" and Dynamic Volume is "off"? Dynamic Volume can really alter the sound in a way I'm not fond of.
My avr is a denon x2000 and i have hooked up a 5.1 speakers rated at 6ohms. Now, i have just been given a set of bookshelf rated at 8ohms. I'm planning to add it to the receiver and make it 7.1 but assigned to front height speakers so that i can play Dolby Pro Logic IIz. Would the mismatched 6 vs 8 ohms speaker create a problem for the denon. Don't want to destroy the receiver if it is the case. I probably just assign the extra speakers to zone 2 listening then. Thank you for your input.
Great video! 👍Would you increase delay to tame perhaps a bright system? Once I increase distance, I feel the sound doesn't seem too bright. What SPL level do you recommend, 65-80db as reference? I think most prefer 75db while REL recommends 65db.
I just got my demon reciever and I ran the auto odyssey and it said when it was done is that my right and left main speakers were only .1 feet away(that's point one feet away) even though it's a good 13 feet away!...lol!! I did it twice with same results!...I'm not sure what's going on but i went ahead and did a manual setting and it sounds beyond awesome!!!
Thanks for your video. Not sure about your speaker distancing. Distances that Audyssey sets are acoustic distances and so are best left alone unless the sound is causing issues. Informative nonetheless especially about the specialist Audyssey EQ menu settings.
Thanks! The way I look at the slightly increased distance setting on the subwoofers is slightly shifting the timing to defeat some cancellation between subs and mains. It's something that can be tried and then put back if it's not better than you started. I've seen some positive results on REW graphs, and it seems to sound better to me, but every case is unique.
Hey thanks for showing the steps on how to do this. Recently I got a Denon H6500x with one wireless subwoofer... may get a second one later. What do you suggest for just one sub?
Duals make a huge difference. Depending on what you have, I would strongly consider getting a pair of these, but they will be gone soon: th-cam.com/video/mm8tia_WSCI/w-d-xo.html
Love the configuration video for your Denon. I also have the PB-2000 and left my gain at the back of the amp at 12 o clock, where did you leave yours? Do you watch films with motion interpolation on or off? I usually have it off on my H8000 but for some I don't mind leaving it on.
Yes, the only thing that I expect might be different is under the amp assign options since the X7200WA can have each individual amp assigned to power any speakers connected except the centre and surrounds I believe. Useful when comboing power amps and setups in zone 2 /3. It is one heck of a receiver though. Are you starting to adjust to it more? I know you said you preferred the sound of the Marantz out the box. Just wondered if the Denon is starting to / continuing to grow on you? Especially compared to your older X2200W or similar receiver???
The Marantz was marginally better, it wasn't so dramatic that I think any less of the Denon. I'd still choose the Denon because of the display. I'm satisfied with it, it's a great AVR.
Have you heard of a set up when you run your AVR center wires to your subwoofer ins and from the subwoofer out to the large Center channel? is this optimal set up?
Eh, I think you'd be losing some signal from the other channels. in a 5.1 you'd only be getting 1/5 of the bass, but the center usually has a lot going on. Seems incomplete to me. First time I've heard of it though.
Great channel and you really are doing us a lot of favor with your video. There are hardly any videos that go in-depth like you did. I am new to ht and just got my first set up. I wanted to run it by you to make sure I am doing it right. I have the Sony core bookshelf speakers in the front including the center channel laying it horizontally. Using Polk speakers as surround for now but use them as atmos later. Receiver is denon 3300w. After running the test for crossover it gave me front 120, center 60 and surround as 80. Have the bass as 120 LFE. I have an emotiva sub s8. While listening to a song on TH-cam. These settings sounded fine but the watched a movie on Netflix and the bass was either too boomy or can’t hear it. Also using it with Apple TV connected directly to the avr and showing as sending pcm to the avr. Any help would be appreciated. Would also like to see what eq if any do you use and how do you set up the shortcut buttons in the remote.
Love the channel and your hacks. My Denon 740 is not detecting the 2nd sub when connected to both sub outs separately. Any clue why ? Right now I have a splitter out at receiver.
hy there ,subwoofer 101, I have a problem with my denon , I make the audissey setup and almost all the speakers ,the receiver turned off only left the front and the sub, what I making wrong...
I know this video is almost 4 years ago but I just want to know how is your experienced with this AVR. You think it's still worth it to buy this at a good price compare to the new ones of today's receiver? Thanks.
Hi, still trying to figure out which is the best surround speakers position for my small room and 5.1 setup. I've put Indiana Line NANO 2 as rear surround above ear level around 1.5 feet, not pointed downwards, this because sometimes I stay in the middle and sometimes quite near the back wall, need more versatility. At the moment I've mounted them upside down. What do you think? I'm using also denon x1200w, paid just 200€ new :)
I have 2 pb2000 subs. One is 10.9 feet and the other 11.1 feet away from listening position. I use a mic to try to set them at 75db each but why is my left at -4db and my right at -1.5db to reach 75db?
You should check out my Bass Hack Video Series, especially the Gain Hack. I would say forget 75, I aim for 83-84. You'll see why in the video, and it will wake up your subs.
I have a 5 speaker setup, but no subwoofer. My front left and right speakers are towers with dual 8 inch woofers (Klipsch). The tower speakers can handle up to 35hz...What would you recommend? Thanks.
I want to get your opinion I'm trying to figure what's the best crossover setting I should use for my setup. I have a Denon 1400H receiver, Polks S30 center, Polk S10 satellite and I'm trying to find a good baseline to work with. At the moment Audyssey has me using the following setup 80hz for fronts (S10), 40z for center (S30) and rears 100Hz (S10) and I have some Polk VT60 in the ceiling for Dolby Atmos at 120Hz and a SVS PB-1000 at 80Hz
Denon told me if You set the speakers to small its only a preset and when You change the crossover this wil direct overrule the setting small but still show small. I AM a litle bit confused from video now
I have the avr s920. audessey set up made volume too low had to crank more than half way up to hear decent sound. there are many volume settings to adjust in different areas such as inputs. what do you use in other volume settings?
Everything needs to go through your AVR, before it goes to your TV. So if you have a Fire TV stick, Blu-ray player, cable box, whatever, it needs to go through the AVR first. Then select "on screen display" in your AVR. If you try to use the apps on your TV, or have anything connected to your TV first instead of going through the AVR, you won't be able to get the on-screen display.
I also noticed that your AVR recognized two subs. Is it because you have two preouts for it? I'm using two subs with one preout so when I do my calibration (ypao) it only recognized one although I have two.
I'm not super familiar with Yamaha, but I would guess in the speaker setup you might have just one sub selected instead of 2. If that doesn't do the trick, either call Yamaha to get it figured out, or get a simple splitter and run both subs off of the output that works, and run room correction again. Yes, both subs should be active in the calibration. If not, you're not getting a calibration based on 2 subs running, which is quite a bit different compared to a single.
Are those numbers not valid because it would restart at 0 again at some point? Because phase can only go to 180 right? It has to come around full circle at some point
If i set my left,right main,center @120 with lfe @120,how will it b,i want my sub to handle bass,is there chance of vocal route to sub if center set @120
Good to know. I will give it a try. Read somewhere that is not always responsive to switch on and in no lfe passages in movies will switch the sub off and can be annoying sometimes.
You should check out my Bass Hack video series, particularly the Gain Hack, Crossover Hack, and Adjusting Subs by Ear. The Gain Hack should net some good results, and you can run more bass overall with SVS subs before they sound overdone. It can be like upgrading your subs. Should wake them up.
Hi Can you hear a little clicking noise from your speakers when you raise and lower the volume fast on your amp. I have the avr-x7200 with klipsch speakers that are very sensitive 98db / 1watt, so I can hear it better thanks to it maybe. .? I hear it most when i play music. it can maybe be the volume contoll on the avr..?? /Peter
Hi @Subwoofer 101 Are you still active? I have questions. Do you have in the front up on the wall Atmos Anable speakers? The one you "fire to the ceiling? If so, Do you still get the sound from above? Like choppers, rain etc? Mys is on top of my front towers shooting up... Wondering if with the conb of the back hights Sp will be better .. Lot of question sorry ... Let me know sir
You have to give them a lot of gain and properly measure your sitting position to it reflects off ceiling to your seat. I would go with height speakers my self
@@gufiaito69able Thank you my friend. This is what i want to do.. I want to put the Atmos Enable Speakers as Rear height and then add 2 up top front In-Ceiling speakers This way I will have L&R front, center L&R sound-round and L & R Rear height + Sub. I think this is 5.1.2. What do you think? .. God Bless
Your English is great, I've just been out of sorts lately, sorry for not getting back sooner. I set it to 250 hertz, even though there is no real difference. 120 hertz is the "correct" setting in the Speakers/Manual/Bass" menu.
Just wondering about setting the subwoofer distances. I'm not able to set mine any further then a couple of feet from the pre-assigned distance (using wireless sub connection). When I do try to it gives me that error that you showed in your video. Is there any work around to that? I haven't seen it in the comments here I'm not sure if you captured it in another video.
Wireless adds a lot of delay, so I only use wireless when I absolutely MUST. You could try adjusting phase, run room correction, and then go back to 0. Haven't tried this personally, but if you have time to kill it might work.
Hmm. Good thought. I'm also going to try to add an extended RCA cable on to the wireless receiver and move it even further from the current location hopefully increasing the distance that gets measured. Then referencing the initial sub distance measurement I may have a few feet of play for adjustment. We'll see. Thanks.
Hi there, question, once you setup your receiver with audessey and manual setup, you can switch settings anytime, like from the audessey to manual settings?
+neker rivera You can restore the Audyssey settings to go back to the way Audyssey set it up, but I don't know of a way to toggle between the user settings and Audyssey. That would be a great feature, but after using restore, to go back to your settings you have to do everything manually again. I could be missing something, but I'm not aware of a way to toggle.
Hi, I feel like my Denon AVR-X520BT may be faulty. During the auto setup, it does not go past Test 1 of 5. It keeps testing front left, front right, centre, rear left, rear right and subwoofer continuously. It keeps doing them again and again and it stays on Test 1 of 5. Also, the pink noise coming out of the speakers is not loud at all. Does you know how many dB the pink noise should be? Side note: My setup is a 2.1
If you're trying to run 2.1, try changing the settings in the Amp Assign section, it could be "looking" for the the rest of the speakers. If that's not it, SVS offers free support chat to my viewers, even if if you aren't their customer. sub101.link/SVS
When I do my calibration, it seems like there's only one sub is doing its test tones. Shouldn't both subs have tones coming out from them during calibration?
I did a sub crawl and realized both are working (test tones). However, it still doesn't show two subwoofers on screen display (YPAO). Should I just call Yamaha and ask them why? Thanks.
Have you test the denon 6200 with 4 dolby atmos speakers..? Or is it better to go with the 6300 with 4 dolby atmos speakers..? I have the avr-x7200wa and a store in Sweden told me if im going for Dolby Atmos is better to change to the 6300 or 6400 what do you Think about that or what have heard or think about that..?
The 6300 and 6400 are more up to date since they are more recent models. You also get 11 on board channels. I run 5.2.4 on my 6200, so 5 ear level, 2 subs, and 4 Elevation/height effect/Atmos speakers. I'm happy with the performance, but the 6300 added 2 more channels. If I add an external amplifier, I could do 7.2.4 but with a 6300 or 6400 I wouldn't need an external amplifier to run that configuration.
Subwoofer 101 Ok Strange that the stor here in Sweden told me that with dolby atmos the performance is better with the New models.. but probloby youst want to sell..;-) Thanks for respons.
Finally bought a new sub thanks for the videos your review of the svs subs and Z-Reviews (zeos pantera) if you know him got my to get a svs sub. I bought the nsd-12 sb because my room is not that big and i wanted a 12" driver with some power behind it and wanted to try a sealed sub, for it's size this sub is a real monster and i got it " cheap" at the svs store where i live because it's a limited edition or a refreshed version of tge nsd 12sb of it. Keep the videos coming like this one today good work the other videos helped me a lot for what sub i should buy.
What did you pay for it? Amazon has them for $399 amzn.to/2gmwF3P (affiliate link) which is what I imagine is close to what you paid. You may want to get another before they are gone, it's a limited run as I understand it. Duals will be even better if you can believe it. I won't run a single unless I have no other choice, you end up missing bass. The reason I say to grab another is because you want your subs as matched as possible. An SB-2000 would probably do just fine with an SB12-NSD, but for an extra $300. The SB12-NSD is a screaming deal right now. Z-Reviews is a great channel, we've never spoken, but I dig his style. Cool cat too!
I paid 449€ at the svs dealer in germany if the sub was 399€ i would go dual but one sub makes me happy for now its enough rumble for me i don't get that swiss cheese bass i did the subwoofer crawl and put the sub in the spot where it sounded the best and it sounds clean and tight the only thing is i put the sub on 0,0db it was measured in at -4,5 but with that it was getting hold back and very quiet with music the sub is at 12'o clock volume .
so i just bought the x6200w for $2000AU. original Australian price $4400. Wasn't going to go this high in the model range but could not resist the price. Still not setup. Deciding on speaker placement.ATMOS vs AURA3d speaker layout. i decided to set up for 5.1 in the interim until i decide. My son says there is very little AURA3d content out there but the manual claims it upscales signals to A3D. I want to do the speaker placement (beyond 5.1) as a once off project. Since i have never experienced ATMOS or A3D i'm not sure which way to go.. any suggestions would be appreciated.
If you set it up for Auro 3D, that should also be an Atmos topology, less the voice of God channel. That's pretty much how I have mine set up, I just haven't paid for the Auro 3D upgrade. No voice of God for me yet. I just put an elevated channel directly above the fronts and directly above the side surrounds, which should be good for all 3 immersive formats. Auro 3D should upscale any format, but Atmos is trying to stop that on newer AVR's. Not sure about the older ones. Set up as I described, it shouldn't be an issue either way. If you have the voice of God speaker, it would probably be silent in Atmos mode.
Subwoofer 101 Thank you so much.. That's the way I'll go.. Now for some overtime to buy great speakers to match the x6200. My jamo speakers may not be enough. Though the 2 jamo subwoofers are superb I would have to give up one for the voice of good channel..later
I know SVS products are spendy in Australia, but if you could find a place that would let you try it with return policy, it would be worth checking out. Dual PB-1000's or PB-2000's would be game changers. Fortunately, just using a simple splitter is all you need to run duals, so no need to put away the second subwoofer!
Probably not enough bass for my tastes, also depends on which subs you're running. See my Bass Hack series, particularly the "gain hack" and "adjusting subs by ear".
For the sub, the slope is 24 db, but for the speakers it's 12 db. I think this explains it pretty well:www.subwoofer101.com/setting-up-your-gear/large-vs-small-lfe-main-double-bass-etc/ Just changed the theme on the site, so it might be a little off.
Dear Subwoofer 101, Could you please do me a favour? I know you are a busy man but need some information concerning the crossover response of my fronts ProAc Studio 150( -3DB RATING OF 55HZ) and center Klipsch RP 440C (59-25KHZ). Which crossover settings in my Denon denon avr x4300H do you recommend me? I really appreciate your help!! My sub will be the Klipsch r-10sw. Thanks a lot and keep up the good work!
It's tough because the subwoofers I recommend react a little differently to a higher crossover. My recommendations might cause a boomy sound, since most subs get quieter as they go deeper. In contrast, the subs I recommend tend to get a little louder as you go deeper, until you reach the limits of your hearing. www.subwoofer101.com/best-subwoofers/ A pair of PB-1000's would give you a more impressive presentation. Duals are super important, and the difference in depth would be undeniable. At that point I would comfortably recommend a crossover of 80-90 hertz. That may work with the sub you are getting, but you may have to adjust the gain. This can help you understand the crossover settings: www.subwoofer101.com/setting-up-your-gear/large-vs-small-lfe-main-double-bass-etc/ I can be slow responding to comments, I have Fibromyalgia and it limits me. Sorry about that, it's nothing personal. I'm the worlds first SVS affiliate, so if you follow my links it can support this channel. They have a much quicker response and they do free tech support for my viewers, even if they aren't customers. On their webpage, the chat window is on the right. sub101.link/SVS
I use Small myself. Large with LFE+Main would be the next choice, but it taxes your AVR, usually making it run hotter. If you have external amplification, this is less of a problem. I you have books for fronts, you should run small regardless.
I put it in an RV, but to do so without shore power would require a pure sine inverter. A modified sine inverter will be noisy as can be. th-cam.com/video/4QOtMr9kqjY/w-d-xo.html
Floor layout 5 channel, 4 channel height (front and rear height) assign mode 9.1ch Unless you have an identical layout, your layout should match your setup. Also, each time you change your layout, you will have to run room correction again.
Common assumption, but my dogs and I have similar thresholds of noise tolerance. Angel (the white Tibetan Mastiff) doesn't like saxophone ("I'm Gonna Move to the Outskirts of Town" by Eric Clapton in particular), but otherwise if it's too loud for her, it's too loud for me as well. I rarely "blast" it. The potential is certainly there, but I listen at very comfortable levels.
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I tried your bass management settings shown here, really tightened up the bass for me! Thank you sir!!!!
Right on, glad it helped!
I was disappointed when I bought my Denon-4100W receiver, but after trying all these my system pounds now. Night and Day difference. I'm so thankful that I came across these videos I have been pretty bummed out the past year because my system wasn't delivering. I don't like the reference EQ settings either and I had no idea that FLAT was still EQ'd so I never tried it. Now my system sounds like how it should! Thanks man!
I absolutely love feedback like this! Glad it worked out for you. For good measure, check out my Bass Hack Series. Might find a new setting or technique in there. Thanks for the comment!!
I'm watching this video again right now. I watch your videos several times a day at least 6 days/wk because they are very informative. I'm sitting on the couch with my tape measure comparing and adjusting distances with audyssey. Working on crossover points now. Keep up the good work. Your videos are a good blend of techy and non techy advice. Earlier in life, I did my fair share of touring with bands as a lighting designer. Had I known what I know and am learning now about audio, I would have chosen audio as my career. Just saying...This stuff is fascinating. Ok I'm babbling, back to crossover points.
Seriously, one of my favorite comments ever! Thank you!
Thanks for all of your videos. It's nice to see someone whose not slaved to the typical crossover orthodoxy. My system has a front array of RSL's CG5-CG25-CG5, Surrounds are CG3s and therr are four SVS Prime Elevation as F/R heights. The AVR is a Denon X3700 and the sub is an SVS PB-1000 Pro (one great piece of kit). Howard and Joe Rodgers had recommended setting the front speakers at 80 and the Surrounds at 90. After Audyssey did its thing, I did set the crossovers as 80 up front, 100 on the Surrounds and 80 for the Elevations. Because, at my age, I've lost some of my higher frequncy hearing, I found that even with the excellent CG25 Center, voices could sound a bit thick or "muddy". After watching this video, I set the CG5s at 90 and the CG25 at 100 and, viola, voices were much sharper and detailed. I bumped the CG3s to 110 and the Elevations to 90 and ended up with a much smoother immersive sound. It just goes to show you that you really have to take some of the typical recommendations with a grain of salt and let your own ears tell you what works best for you.
Your doing a lot of good work. I appreciate what you did here a great deal. What you do on this channel is real and a real help to us geeks 😏😊. Again I just encourage you to keep it real and I will always be here on your channel
+rednecktech70 I appreciate feedback like this! Glad you enjoy the channel!
@@Subwoofer101 damn, you have some of the best content out there! I just used some of your hacks and my system sounds brand new. I have the Denon 4700 B&W 686-s2 as fronts, B&Whtm62-S2 for the center and B&W M1 as surrounds. This completely made my system sound sooo immersive. I just ordered the SVS ULTRA tower theater package along with 4 prime height speakers to fully get the most out of my Denon and can’t wait to use this configuration. I currently have a B&W Pv1D and Bose accoustimss 15 as my second sub. I’m going to run the SVS PC2000 pro and see what the whole system sounds like. I might trade the PC2000 for a PB2000 pro and get duals.
I have found your videos to be very educational for a non audiophile.....and your explanations are meant to be understanding to beginners. For that reason is why I now subscribe to your channel..
Thank you
I tried the 'add an extra 4ft' to the sub and yes it improved the bass in so far as it now isn't localised. However I did get a text off the neighbour asking me to turn it down. 6 yrs with no issues from them. So, I guess it worked for my setup :-)
I used the same settings with my denon x1300 + HCS626 Jamo + Onkyo Atmos Speakers+Yamaha YST SW 012 Advanced YST II and the result is so much better now. The sound is amazing:) Thank you!
I love feedback like this, glad to help!
Thanks for your video. Not sure about your speaker distancing. Distances that Audyssey sets are acoustic distances and ao at best left alone unless the sound is causing issues.
Informative nonetheless.
Thank you! I finally found an answer to the meaning of crossovers. Thanks much!
Glad to help!
Great tips of tweaking! I have a single SVS pb-1000 setup and got a good black friday deal on a Denon X3300W AVR which has the same setup menus. Also I found measuring with Audyssey with close cluster as noted in this write up, chapter 7 graph 101.
The X3300w is a good looking AVR! Glad you like it!
This video has really helped me out setting up my system. Thanks 😊👍
Awesome, glad to hear it!
I found a used 6200 I may pick up. But Im on the fence about that or a brand-new X3800. Dont really know if Ill notice the 2.1 HDMI
Honestly, I would personally go with the 3800, the 6200 is pretty old in AVR years, and the 3800 has more features. The HDMI functionality is better. You also get a warranty. You might not notice the picture quality, but the functionality is just better, more reliable, and quicker when making changes.
I know this is an older video, but i am curious if you are still running your crossovers this way. If you are, i was curious if you're losing some of your mids to the subwoofer because you are running them this way. I was thinking about trying out your method, but my surrounds are pretty nice and get down to 39htz, and i don't know if i want to lose some of that bass and mids. This video was very informative, and thanks for sharing.
No important losses that I could tell, just more dynamic bass. 90 hertz for the towers and center, 120 hertz for the surrounds. Love it, and you should try it. Free, and easy enough to change back.
Thanks! I was never really happy with my Marantz 7011 until now. Great video.
Glad to hear it, thanks for the feedback!
Thank you for the good tips.
I own the denon avr-x2300w and it all sounds much better now!
Only the high vocals are a bit dominating now.
Right on, you can look at the dialog setting and try adjusting it. Not sure what option the 2300 has, my x2000 was actually more adjustable, allowing you to reduce dialog, but the X6200 only has Dialog Enhancer "low medium and high". Dynamic EQ is "on" and Dynamic Volume is "off"? Dynamic Volume can really alter the sound in a way I'm not fond of.
My avr is a denon x2000 and i have hooked up a 5.1 speakers rated at 6ohms. Now, i have just been given a set of bookshelf rated at 8ohms. I'm planning to add it to the receiver and make it 7.1 but assigned to front height speakers so that i can play Dolby Pro Logic IIz. Would the mismatched 6 vs 8 ohms speaker create a problem for the denon. Don't want to destroy the receiver if it is the case. I probably just assign the extra speakers to zone 2 listening then. Thank you for your input.
My initial thought is that the Denon would handle it, but I would recommend giving Denon a call to be on the safe side.
Great video! 👍Would you increase delay to tame perhaps a bright system? Once I increase distance, I feel the sound doesn't seem too bright. What SPL level do you recommend, 65-80db as reference? I think most prefer 75db while REL recommends 65db.
I just got my demon reciever and I ran the auto odyssey and it said when it was done is that my right and left main speakers were only .1 feet away(that's point one feet away) even though it's a good 13 feet away!...lol!! I did it twice with same results!...I'm not sure what's going on but i went ahead and did a manual setting and it sounds beyond awesome!!!
Make sure everything is completely quiet and you’re using a tripod
Thanks for your advices, i think trying your settings on my AVR X1400 .thx a lot
Great Vid! Cleared up a lot of questions.
Thanks for your video. Not sure about your speaker distancing. Distances that Audyssey sets are acoustic distances and so are best left alone unless the sound is causing issues.
Informative nonetheless especially about the specialist Audyssey EQ menu settings.
Thanks! The way I look at the slightly increased distance setting on the subwoofers is slightly shifting the timing to defeat some cancellation between subs and mains. It's something that can be tried and then put back if it's not better than you started. I've seen some positive results on REW graphs, and it seems to sound better to me, but every case is unique.
This video has been very helpful! Thank you
Hey thanks for showing the steps on how to do this. Recently I got a Denon H6500x with one wireless subwoofer... may get a second one later. What do you suggest for just one sub?
Duals make a huge difference. Depending on what you have, I would strongly consider getting a pair of these, but they will be gone soon: th-cam.com/video/mm8tia_WSCI/w-d-xo.html
Oh... I meant the settings for one sub in a surround system. Those are some cool deals though. I got a Klipsch R-12SWI wireless.
Love the configuration video for your Denon. I also have the PB-2000 and left my gain at the back of the amp at 12 o clock, where did you leave yours? Do you watch films with motion interpolation on or off? I usually have it off on my H8000 but for some I don't mind leaving it on.
I usually leave it off, but I don't really have a firm opinion on it. I keep the gain at about 50% on both subs, and dial it in on the AVR trim.
Wow helped me had crossover at 80hz and hpf at 80hz changed to 120hz for hpf on my Denon avr8500 thanks a lot
Thanks for this - very interesting. Very similar to my X7200WA obviously so a lot of good tips for me to go through. Cheers.
+David Norton Thanks! Yeah they are pretty similar, the menus should be identical I would think.
Yes, the only thing that I expect might be different is under the amp assign options since the X7200WA can have each individual amp assigned to power any speakers connected except the centre and surrounds I believe. Useful when comboing power amps and setups in zone 2 /3.
It is one heck of a receiver though. Are you starting to adjust to it more? I know you said you preferred the sound of the Marantz out the box. Just wondered if the Denon is starting to / continuing to grow on you? Especially compared to your older X2200W or similar receiver???
The Marantz was marginally better, it wasn't so dramatic that I think any less of the Denon. I'd still choose the Denon because of the display. I'm satisfied with it, it's a great AVR.
Have you heard of a set up when you run your AVR center wires to your subwoofer ins and from the subwoofer out to the large Center channel? is this optimal set up?
Eh, I think you'd be losing some signal from the other channels. in a 5.1 you'd only be getting 1/5 of the bass, but the center usually has a lot going on. Seems incomplete to me. First time I've heard of it though.
Great channel and you really are doing us a lot of favor with your video. There are hardly any videos that go in-depth like you did. I am new to ht and just got my first set up. I wanted to run it by you to make sure I am doing it right. I have the Sony core bookshelf speakers in the front including the center channel laying it horizontally. Using Polk speakers as surround for now but use them as atmos later. Receiver is denon 3300w. After running the test for crossover it gave me front 120, center 60 and surround as 80. Have the bass as 120 LFE.
I have an emotiva sub s8. While listening to a song on TH-cam. These settings sounded fine but the watched a movie on Netflix and the bass was either too boomy or can’t hear it. Also using it with Apple TV connected directly to the avr and showing as sending pcm to the avr. Any help would be appreciated.
Would also like to see what eq if any do you use and how do you set up the shortcut buttons in the remote.
Please give the crossover setup for Denon x3300w. How to set clear voice from center channel and thumping bass without room floor vibration irritates.
Love the channel and your hacks. My Denon 740 is not detecting the 2nd sub when connected to both sub outs separately. Any clue why ? Right now I have a splitter out at receiver.
@Subwoofer 101, you never explained why you set it to "LFE+Main"???
hy there ,subwoofer 101, I have a problem with my denon , I make the audissey setup and almost all the speakers ,the receiver turned off only left the front and the sub, what I making wrong...
I know this video is almost 4 years ago but I just want to know how is your experienced with this AVR. You think it's still worth it to buy this at a good price compare to the new ones of today's receiver? Thanks.
Hi, still trying to figure out which is the best surround speakers position for my small room and 5.1 setup. I've put Indiana Line NANO 2 as rear surround above ear level around 1.5 feet, not pointed downwards, this because sometimes I stay in the middle and sometimes quite near the back wall, need more versatility. At the moment I've mounted them upside down. What do you think? I'm using also denon x1200w, paid just 200€ new :)
I have 2 pb2000 subs. One is 10.9 feet and the other 11.1 feet away from listening position. I use a mic to try to set them at 75db each but why is my left at -4db and my right at -1.5db to reach 75db?
You should check out my Bass Hack Video Series, especially the Gain Hack.
I would say forget 75, I aim for 83-84. You'll see why in the video, and it will wake up your subs.
Is there a video showing the svs sub settings?
I have learnt a lot from you, sir.
Why i have a dual sub set up on my denon s710w but when im in subwoofer level it appears 1 subwoofer only unlike youra
Hello sir, can you teach me how to activate DTS X audio on my Denon AVR X2500H? Thank you sir...
Great video 👍 On my Yamaha avr it only has lfe not lfe main plus did you set your sub to 200hz crossover?
Thanks for your very helpful information! And yes indeed your dogs are very cute!
I appreciate that!
I have a 5 speaker setup, but no subwoofer. My front left and right speakers are towers with dual 8 inch woofers (Klipsch). The tower speakers can handle up to 35hz...What would you recommend? Thanks.
I want to get your opinion I'm trying to figure what's the best crossover setting I should use for my setup. I have a Denon 1400H receiver, Polks S30 center, Polk S10 satellite and I'm trying to find a good baseline to work with. At the moment Audyssey has me using the following setup 80hz for fronts (S10), 40z for center (S30) and rears 100Hz (S10) and I have some Polk VT60 in the ceiling for Dolby Atmos at 120Hz and a SVS PB-1000 at 80Hz
Just wondering what the difference between the sub adjust in test tones and the subwoofer level adjust in audio?
It’s been two years since you uploaded this video. Do you think the setup still valid? E.g. lfe+main?
Denon told me if You set the speakers to small its only a preset and when You change the crossover this wil direct overrule the setting small but still show small. I AM a litle bit confused from video now
When calibrating the sub do you set the sub to bypass?
This was very helpful, thank you.
I have the avr s920. audessey set up made volume too low had to crank more than half way up to hear decent sound.
there are many volume settings to adjust in different areas such as inputs. what do you use in other volume settings?
How do you get it to display on your tv?
Everything needs to go through your AVR, before it goes to your TV.
So if you have a Fire TV stick, Blu-ray player, cable box, whatever, it needs to go through the AVR first.
Then select "on screen display" in your AVR.
If you try to use the apps on your TV, or have anything connected to your TV first instead of going through the AVR, you won't be able to get the on-screen display.
Great video, I felt like I learned a lot.
Thanks!
I also noticed that your AVR recognized two subs. Is it because you have two preouts for it? I'm using two subs with one preout so when I do my calibration (ypao) it only recognized one although I have two.
I'm not super familiar with Yamaha, but I would guess in the speaker setup you might have just one sub selected instead of 2. If that doesn't do the trick, either call Yamaha to get it figured out, or get a simple splitter and run both subs off of the output that works, and run room correction again. Yes, both subs should be active in the calibration. If not, you're not getting a calibration based on 2 subs running, which is quite a bit different compared to a single.
Are those numbers not valid because it would restart at 0 again at some point? Because phase can only go to 180 right? It has to come around full circle at some point
Yes, it will come around, and it's pretty uncomfortable. +4 feet sounds great, +8 feet hurts my ears.
If i set my left,right main,center @120 with lfe @120,how will it b,i want my sub to handle bass,is there chance of vocal route to sub if center set @120
I saw the red LED on the subwoofers? are you keeping them set on auto on/off? My is always on.
Yeah, the auto on works pretty well. No problems.
Good to know. I will give it a try. Read somewhere that is not always responsive to switch on and in no lfe passages in movies will switch the sub off and can be annoying sometimes.
Why are you running subs so "hot?" I have my SVS PB1000 (2) at zero dB.
You should check out my Bass Hack video series, particularly the Gain Hack, Crossover Hack, and Adjusting Subs by Ear.
The Gain Hack should net some good results, and you can run more bass overall with SVS subs before they sound overdone.
It can be like upgrading your subs. Should wake them up.
awesome receiver
+Voodoo I sure like it
Your the best!! Merry Christmas :)
Merry Christmas to you too!
what about the amp assin.what speakers do you set that to.i have a denonx3300w
Hi Can you hear a little clicking noise from your speakers when you raise and lower the volume fast on your amp. I have the avr-x7200 with klipsch speakers that are very sensitive 98db / 1watt, so I can hear it better thanks to it maybe. .?
I hear it most when i play music.
it can maybe be the volume contoll on the avr..??
/Peter
Sounds like the old days when the volume dial would get dirty. Mine does not do that, might want to check with Denon.
Hi @Subwoofer 101 Are you still active? I have questions. Do you have in the front up on the wall Atmos Anable speakers? The one you "fire to the ceiling? If so, Do you still get the sound from above? Like choppers, rain etc? Mys is on top of my front towers shooting up... Wondering if with the conb of the back hights Sp will be better .. Lot of question sorry ... Let me know sir
You have to give them a lot of gain and properly measure your sitting position to it reflects off ceiling to your seat. I would go with height speakers my self
@@gufiaito69able Thank you my friend. This is what i want to do.. I want to put the Atmos Enable Speakers as Rear height and then add 2 up top front In-Ceiling speakers This way I will have L&R front, center L&R sound-round and L & R Rear height + Sub. I think this is 5.1.2. What do you think? .. God Bless
@@irgproductions I would sell the up firing speakers and with all 4 height channels, gives you a more balanced sound stage
Sorry, I'm Brazilian and my English is not so good, do you like to leave at 200hz LPF for LFE?
Your English is great, I've just been out of sorts lately, sorry for not getting back sooner. I set it to 250 hertz, even though there is no real difference. 120 hertz is the "correct" setting in the Speakers/Manual/Bass" menu.
Just wondering about setting the subwoofer distances. I'm not able to set mine any further then a couple of feet from the pre-assigned distance (using wireless sub connection). When I do try to it gives me that error that you showed in your video. Is there any work around to that? I haven't seen it in the comments here I'm not sure if you captured it in another video.
Wireless adds a lot of delay, so I only use wireless when I absolutely MUST. You could try adjusting phase, run room correction, and then go back to 0. Haven't tried this personally, but if you have time to kill it might work.
Hmm. Good thought. I'm also going to try to add an extended RCA cable on to the wireless receiver and move it even further from the current location hopefully increasing the distance that gets measured. Then referencing the initial sub distance measurement I may have a few feet of play for adjustment. We'll see. Thanks.
Hi there, question, once you setup your receiver with audessey and manual setup, you can switch settings anytime, like from the audessey to manual settings?
+neker rivera You can restore the Audyssey settings to go back to the way Audyssey set it up, but I don't know of a way to toggle between the user settings and Audyssey. That would be a great feature, but after using restore, to go back to your settings you have to do everything manually again. I could be missing something, but I'm not aware of a way to toggle.
Hi, I feel like my Denon AVR-X520BT may be faulty. During the auto setup, it does not go past Test 1 of 5. It keeps testing front left, front right, centre, rear left, rear right and subwoofer continuously. It keeps doing them again and again and it stays on Test 1 of 5.
Also, the pink noise coming out of the speakers is not loud at all. Does you know how many dB the pink noise should be?
Side note: My setup is a 2.1
If you're trying to run 2.1, try changing the settings in the Amp Assign section, it could be "looking" for the the rest of the speakers. If that's not it, SVS offers free support chat to my viewers, even if if you aren't their customer. sub101.link/SVS
Very informative video. Thanks
I appreciate the feedback!
What's the difference between the subwoofer tone level and the Subwoofer level adjust in the audio section ?
The Subwoofer adjustment in the "Audio" section is what I use.
Hello how to connect cervin vega cvp 118 passive woofer 18 inch to denon avr 3310. pls help
Your dogs are too cute!!
Thanks, we are very fortunate to have them!
When I do my calibration, it seems like there's only one sub is doing its test tones. Shouldn't both subs have tones coming out from them during calibration?
They should. Which AVR?
I did a sub crawl and realized both are working (test tones). However, it still doesn't show two subwoofers on screen display (YPAO). Should I just call Yamaha and ask them why? Thanks.
Have you test the denon 6200 with 4 dolby atmos speakers..?
Or is it better to go with the 6300 with 4 dolby atmos speakers..?
I have the avr-x7200wa and a store in Sweden told me if im going for Dolby Atmos is better to change to the 6300 or 6400 what do you Think about that or what have heard or think about that..?
The 6300 and 6400 are more up to date since they are more recent models. You also get 11 on board channels.
I run 5.2.4 on my 6200, so 5 ear level, 2 subs, and 4 Elevation/height effect/Atmos speakers. I'm happy with the performance, but the 6300 added 2 more channels. If I add an external amplifier, I could do 7.2.4 but with a 6300 or 6400 I wouldn't need an external amplifier to run that configuration.
Subwoofer 101
Ok
Strange that the stor here in Sweden told me that with dolby atmos the performance is better with the New models.. but probloby youst want to sell..;-)
Thanks for respons.
Peter J It could be. I haven't heard the newer ones.
Finally bought a new sub thanks for the videos your review of the svs subs and Z-Reviews (zeos pantera) if you know him got my to get a svs sub. I bought the nsd-12 sb because my room is not that big and i wanted a 12" driver with some power behind it and wanted to try a sealed sub, for it's size this sub is a real monster and i got it " cheap" at the svs store where i live because it's a limited edition or a refreshed version of tge nsd 12sb of it. Keep the videos coming like this one today good work the other videos helped me a lot for what sub i should buy.
What did you pay for it? Amazon has them for $399 amzn.to/2gmwF3P (affiliate link) which is what I imagine is close to what you paid. You may want to get another before they are gone, it's a limited run as I understand it. Duals will be even better if you can believe it. I won't run a single unless I have no other choice, you end up missing bass. The reason I say to grab another is because you want your subs as matched as possible. An SB-2000 would probably do just fine with an SB12-NSD, but for an extra $300. The SB12-NSD is a screaming deal right now.
Z-Reviews is a great channel, we've never spoken, but I dig his style. Cool cat too!
I paid 449€ at the svs dealer in germany if the sub was 399€ i would go dual but one sub makes me happy for now its enough rumble for me i don't get that swiss cheese bass i did the subwoofer crawl and put the sub in the spot where it sounded the best and it sounds clean and tight the only thing is i put the sub on 0,0db it was measured in at -4,5 but with that it was getting hold back and very quiet with music the sub is at 12'o clock volume .
Swiss Cheese Bass is pretty hard to avoid with a single sub unless you have towers with powered subs. Are all of your speakers set to Small?
Subwoofer 101 I have canton 490.2 tower speakers they can handle that
so i just bought the x6200w for $2000AU. original Australian price $4400. Wasn't going to go this high in the model range but could not resist the price. Still not setup. Deciding on speaker placement.ATMOS vs AURA3d speaker layout. i decided to set up for 5.1 in the interim until i decide. My son says there is very little AURA3d content out there but the manual claims it upscales signals to A3D. I want to do the speaker placement (beyond 5.1) as a once off project. Since i have never experienced ATMOS or A3D i'm not sure which way to go.. any suggestions would be appreciated.
If you set it up for Auro 3D, that should also be an Atmos topology, less the voice of God channel.
That's pretty much how I have mine set up, I just haven't paid for the Auro 3D upgrade. No voice of God for me yet.
I just put an elevated channel directly above the fronts and directly above the side surrounds, which should be good for all 3 immersive formats.
Auro 3D should upscale any format, but Atmos is trying to stop that on newer AVR's. Not sure about the older ones.
Set up as I described, it shouldn't be an issue either way. If you have the voice of God speaker, it would probably be silent in Atmos mode.
Subwoofer 101
Thank you so much.. That's the way I'll go.. Now for some overtime to buy great speakers to match the x6200.
My jamo speakers may not be enough. Though the 2 jamo subwoofers are superb I would have to give up one for the voice of good channel..later
I know SVS products are spendy in Australia, but if you could find a place that would let you try it with return policy, it would be worth checking out. Dual PB-1000's or PB-2000's would be game changers.
Fortunately, just using a simple splitter is all you need to run duals, so no need to put away the second subwoofer!
At Auto setup Audissey they Set the sub to - 7.5 DB. The sub Level stand on 10 o clock ( 30%). Are this ok?
Probably not enough bass for my tastes, also depends on which subs you're running. See my Bass Hack series, particularly the "gain hack" and "adjusting subs by ear".
what do they consider the slope on crossovers to be 12db?18db?
For the sub, the slope is 24 db, but for the speakers it's 12 db. I think this explains it pretty well:www.subwoofer101.com/setting-up-your-gear/large-vs-small-lfe-main-double-bass-etc/
Just changed the theme on the site, so it might be a little off.
hy the subwoofer wireless it is worth it...
My receiver won't let me change the volume of the center speaker, anyone know how to change it?
On a Denon, Setup/Speakers/Manual setup/Levels/Test tone start/Center
Subwoofer 101 does it have to be by the tv or can I change it on the receiver itself
+The Successor Not sure I understand your question. What is your setup?
Dear Subwoofer 101, Could you please do me a favour? I know you are a busy man but need some information concerning the crossover response of my fronts ProAc Studio 150( -3DB RATING OF 55HZ) and center Klipsch RP 440C (59-25KHZ). Which crossover settings in my Denon denon avr x4300H do you recommend me? I really appreciate your help!! My sub will be the Klipsch r-10sw. Thanks a lot and keep up the good work!
It's tough because the subwoofers I recommend react a little differently to a higher crossover. My recommendations might cause a boomy sound, since most subs get quieter as they go deeper. In contrast, the subs I recommend tend to get a little louder as you go deeper, until you reach the limits of your hearing. www.subwoofer101.com/best-subwoofers/
A pair of PB-1000's would give you a more impressive presentation. Duals are super important, and the difference in depth would be undeniable.
At that point I would comfortably recommend a crossover of 80-90 hertz. That may work with the sub you are getting, but you may have to adjust the gain.
This can help you understand the crossover settings: www.subwoofer101.com/setting-up-your-gear/large-vs-small-lfe-main-double-bass-etc/
I can be slow responding to comments, I have Fibromyalgia and it limits me. Sorry about that, it's nothing personal.
I'm the worlds first SVS affiliate, so if you follow my links it can support this channel. They have a much quicker response and they do free tech support for my viewers, even if they aren't customers. On their webpage, the chat window is on the right. sub101.link/SVS
I appreciate your quick reply SUBWOOFER 101, very useful information, thank you so much! Take care also for your lovely dogs. Kind Regards. Gerard
Front speakers set large and for sub do lfe+main?
I use Small myself. Large with LFE+Main would be the next choice, but it taxes your AVR, usually making it run hotter. If you have external amplification, this is less of a problem. I you have books for fronts, you should run small regardless.
How setup 2 subwoofer
Can these setup be applied to a van/car?
I put it in an RV, but to do so without shore power would require a pure sine inverter. A modified sine inverter will be noisy as can be. th-cam.com/video/4QOtMr9kqjY/w-d-xo.html
Black tower where you gone hommie
What is your amp assign set up to?
Floor layout 5 channel, 4 channel height (front and rear height) assign mode 9.1ch
Unless you have an identical layout, your layout should match your setup. Also, each time you change your layout, you will have to run room correction again.
Love the 2 doggies....
Thanks, we're very fortunate to have them!
One thing is clear from the looks of the speakers and reciever....The dogs wont be sitting there when the sound plays........
Common assumption, but my dogs and I have similar thresholds of noise tolerance. Angel (the white Tibetan Mastiff) doesn't like saxophone ("I'm Gonna Move to the Outskirts of Town" by Eric Clapton in particular), but otherwise if it's too loud for her, it's too loud for me as well. I rarely "blast" it. The potential is certainly there, but I listen at very comfortable levels.
Nice audiophile dogs!!!
Subwoofer 101 - Stupid nonstop
We have no idea what the size of his room is
We have no idea what speakers he has
There is no explanation for anything
Everything was how he sounded in his very fat ears
Brain confusion regardless of reality
My yamaha 2080 surround efect slow please tips tellme sir