Hey Paul! Great to see the mystery solved. There is something about these small British single machines. So much that I bought a 1966 BSA C15. It has been on constant use and no problems with the electrics, but we'll see how it works with me.
the war of attrition was worth it paul, am chuffed for you !! so you must be delighted with that result ,brilliant job !😇 and the patience of job too 😊
What an amazing place you live, Wales is so amazing even when it’s raining. What a great test track you have at your feet, always a pleasure watching you ride the lanes 👍 Enjoy it always Paul.
Wonderful! I owned my 69 thunderbolt since I was 18 years old about 40 something years ago. The forks always clanked and bottomed but I put up with it finally about three years ago I went to my local guy and we rebuilt the forks and he turned the plastic piece the other way around. The clanking stopped and I was about as happy as you were at the end of your ride today 😅
Wow, that went like s*** off a shovel, as far as I could tell! I don't think you've ever sounded happier with a result. For such a small engine, it really has a lot of get up and go. Well done!
One of the ways capacitors fail is to develop an intermittent short or leak. Sometimes it only comes when the cap is warm or cold. It can be quite difficult to diagnose, since it isn’t consistent. All in all, the battery is probably the better idea, if a bit heavier. Sounds quite willing by now. Nicely done.
Hello Paul, another entertaining video from you. Congratulations on successfully defeating the Gremlins. Now you can fix up the Tiger Cub and polish it up a bit.
Hi Paul, any chance you could do a video on setting the timing on your older Tiger Cub (with the top mounted points)? I’m struggling with my Tiger Cub rebuild and can’t find any good guidance. Thank you!
I fast forwarded so I didn’t get too wet 🙈. My best friend at school was fined for speeding , and I’ve loved cubs ever since. I have 2 cubs, a plunger frame basket case , and a trailing arm cub. I’m a Brexit casualty but when I can , I’ll bring them home from France so I can enjoy…..the rain. And my Superdream, and my MZ, and my …….
Well done mate it is exactly as I suspected Your coil and condenser has been having a rough time off it and condenser obviously could not cope with the voltage spikes , would be like guy faukes night in the points unit I was hoping it would get the famous Welsh up and over and land in North Cumbria at a very good price , Lol. Looking forward to seeing its little runs , what you need now is a nip of whisky
Hi William - the points weren't arcing as you might expect and a check with the strobe showed there were no rogue sparks as first expected. Something was making the alternator itself 'grab' against the engine, but fitting the battery has cured it, although I can't explain exactly why that should be. I am just happy it is finally sorted!
Lovely little bike! I am not a Triumph expert by any stretch of imagination so am I to understand that these bikes didn't have a battery? Only a capacitor as a buffer?
Most had coil and battery ignition, while some competition machines had energy transfer systems without batteries. This has a very old, home brewed 12 volt batteryless conversion, but fitting a battery put it right.
Was the bike designed for a capacitor, or was it a conversion to eliminate using a battery? If it was a conversion I'd get rid of it and build a battery box. I'm not sure if the rectifiers that are available anymore, are designed for a non-battery setup, especially with an old capacitor. 🤔😎 (good fork seal test)
@@paulhenshaw4514 I’d be inclined to make the batt holder a neat permanent job, maybe try the solid state unit again and redo the whole loom, bespoke to the new set up. I bought a proper Lucas bullet crimper. Not cheap but I redid my series two Landrover wireing entirely with Lucas bullets and all the wires going exactly where I wanted them to go and earth busbars front middle and rear. Perfect. And nice thick wire too. Earth from headlamp to battery, no power through headstock, thick wires and better lights. That’s a lovely bike and a thoughtful rewire would add the reliability you want. Keep up the good work. Very happy for your successful battery mod!
It's the capacitor surely, if thats the only thing you've changed. l do hope a knowledgable person chimes in with a plausible explanation of what the battery is doing that the capacitor is incapable of. Probably captr. wasnt working properly and the points were arcing causing weak spark at the plug and sparks produced at the wrong time?
If it was allowing to much voltage which I'm sure it was then the condenser which is there to soak any over voltage up would not be able to cope be sparks all over the place . Thats my simple understanding battery wins everything for smoothing voltage out
The voltage was stable without the battery, as the lights were steady at anything above tick over and there was no rogue spark according to my strobe, but whatever it was, the battery fixed it.
What kind of tires are you running on that thing? If you notice it's also decel popping a LOT less now. I can't help but notice how low the camera is, you're not very tall are you? (yes I know it's on your chest)
@@paulhenshaw4514 my dad was 6'2 at his best.. but then I had a grandma and two great grandmas that were 6'.. and an uncle that's 6'6... my other grandma was 5'3. My mom at her best was 5'9 1/2. BTW I didn't mean to offend you. I'm autistic and I don't always word things the best. Sorry if I did.
@@paulhenshaw4514 I paid £30 for mine in 1971, when I was 16. Big end didn't last long, though. Taught me a lot about stripping and rebuilding engines.
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I use to ride my brother's 1957 tiger cub to work when I was 18, that was 1977. Your ride brought back some great memories. Great sound. Thanks.
Hey Paul! Great to see the mystery solved. There is something about these small British single machines. So much that I bought a 1966 BSA C15. It has been on constant use and no problems with the electrics, but we'll see how it works with me.
Getting on for 50 years and the answer was: A battery! Well done, mate. Great little bike.
I couldn't resist, I went and bought one from a guy in South Wales last week. Just getting it registered with DVLD so I can get it on the road.
Wow! What a contrast from first run. You were right, the rain did ease up, it’s just that you were climbing into the clouds 👍👌👏
the war of attrition was worth it paul, am chuffed for you !!
so you must be delighted with that result ,brilliant job !😇
and the patience of job too 😊
What an amazing place you live, Wales is so amazing even when it’s raining.
What a great test track you have at your feet, always a pleasure watching you ride the lanes 👍
Enjoy it always Paul.
Many thanks
Wonderful! I owned my 69 thunderbolt since I was 18 years old about 40 something years ago. The forks always clanked and bottomed but I put up with it finally about three years ago I went to my local guy and we rebuilt the forks and he turned the plastic piece the other way around. The clanking stopped and I was about as happy as you were at the end of your ride today 😅
Wow, that went like s*** off a shovel, as far as I could tell! I don't think you've ever sounded happier with a result. For such a small engine, it really has a lot of get up and go. Well done!
Very good! Go down the pub!
That's a cobby little charger. Glad you got the electrics sorted.
Were happy to. Thanks.
One of the ways capacitors fail is to develop an intermittent short or leak. Sometimes it only comes when the cap is warm or cold. It can be quite difficult to diagnose, since it isn’t consistent. All in all, the battery is probably the better idea, if a bit heavier. Sounds quite willing by now. Nicely done.
Hello Paul, another entertaining video from you. Congratulations on successfully defeating the Gremlins. Now you can fix up the Tiger Cub and polish it up a bit.
nice one Paul av ad a tin on that cheers for your hard work been with u all the way thanks
Thanks 👍
Great to see the transformation, I guess you’ll be enjoying many more miles on this charming machine.
Hi Paul, glad to see you have got to the bottom of it.
You and me both!
Hi Paul, any chance you could do a video on setting the timing on your older Tiger Cub (with the top mounted points)? I’m struggling with my Tiger Cub rebuild and can’t find any good guidance. Thank you!
hi Paul well done now go have a pint or two.
Ah ha!.
I never liked the capacitor ignition systems either.
Maybe the battery is providing the right conditions for a stable spark.
I fast forwarded so I didn’t get too wet 🙈. My best friend at school was fined for speeding , and I’ve loved cubs ever since. I have 2 cubs, a plunger frame basket case , and a trailing arm cub. I’m a Brexit casualty but when I can , I’ll bring them home from France so I can enjoy…..the rain. And my Superdream, and my MZ, and my …….
Great little cub, great problem solved
With time, all problems can be solved.
Well done mate it is exactly as I suspected
Your coil and condenser has been having a rough time off it and condenser obviously could not cope with the voltage spikes , would be like guy faukes night in the points unit
I was hoping it would get the famous Welsh up and over and land in North Cumbria at a very good price ,
Lol.
Looking forward to seeing its little runs , what you need now is a nip of whisky
Hi William - the points weren't arcing as you might expect and a check with the strobe showed there were no rogue sparks as first expected. Something was making the alternator itself 'grab' against the engine, but fitting the battery has cured it, although I can't explain exactly why that should be. I am just happy it is finally sorted!
Congrats!
If you want to get in touch I can get you to contact my eldest just had a lecture on various capacitors and fault finding more than happy great video
Lovely little bike! I am not a Triumph expert by any stretch of imagination so am I to understand that these bikes didn't have a battery? Only a capacitor as a buffer?
Most had coil and battery ignition, while some competition machines had energy transfer systems without batteries. This has a very old, home brewed 12 volt batteryless conversion, but fitting a battery put it right.
@@paulhenshaw4514 Yes, I should imagine so! Thank you
Great
DEFINITELY MY Sachs Sprite left YA BEHIND ..😅
I would still prefer the Cub.
@@paulhenshaw4514 your choice Paul
Yes, great when an issue is fixed. Are you going to keep as is or restore it to show room condition. Me personally likes it as it is.
Thanks. I will probably try and tidy things like the seat up a bit, but overall it will stay largely as it is.
@@paulhenshaw4514 well done. Right answer!
Great set of films today.realy enjoyable...looking forward to more runs out on this bike to
Will you give another capacitor a try? It would bug me to not know exactly where the problem lay.
No - after all these years, the battery wins!
Was the bike designed for a capacitor, or was it a conversion to eliminate using a battery? If it was a conversion I'd get rid of it and build a battery box. I'm not sure if the rectifiers that are available anymore, are designed for a non-battery setup, especially with an old capacitor. 🤔😎 (good fork seal test)
The wiring is a home brewed set up, done by a previous owner, a long time ago.
@@paulhenshaw4514 I’d be inclined to make the batt holder a neat permanent job, maybe try the solid state unit again and redo the whole loom, bespoke to the new set up. I bought a proper Lucas bullet crimper. Not cheap but I redid my series two Landrover wireing entirely with Lucas bullets and all the wires going exactly where I wanted them to go and earth busbars front middle and rear. Perfect. And nice thick wire too. Earth from headlamp to battery, no power through headstock, thick wires and better lights. That’s a lovely bike and a thoughtful rewire would add the reliability you want.
Keep up the good work. Very happy for your successful battery mod!
are you going to tidy the paintwork up at some point or just keep as is
I might tidy the tank up, but the rest of the paint isn't too bad.
ps runs like a top
It's the capacitor surely, if thats the only thing you've changed. l do hope a knowledgable person chimes in with a plausible explanation of what the battery is doing that the capacitor is incapable of. Probably captr. wasnt working properly and the points were arcing causing weak spark at the plug and sparks produced at the wrong time?
Me too!
If it was allowing to much voltage which I'm sure it was then the condenser which is there to soak any over voltage up would not be able to cope be sparks all over the place .
Thats my simple understanding battery wins everything for smoothing voltage out
The voltage was stable without the battery, as the lights were steady at anything above tick over and there was no rogue spark according to my strobe, but whatever it was, the battery fixed it.
Was it a factory built trials bike
No, it is a replica.
What kind of tires are you running on that thing? If you notice it's also decel popping a LOT less now. I can't help but notice how low the camera is, you're not very tall are you? (yes I know it's on your chest)
Old tyres. 'That thing' is a Triumph. Not very tall? I am nearly 6 foot. Next 'pop' ...
@@paulhenshaw4514 well I' 6'10 so... :P
Clearly it's a case that you are not very short then.
@@paulhenshaw4514 my dad was 6'2 at his best.. but then I had a grandma and two great grandmas that were 6'.. and an uncle that's 6'6... my other grandma was 5'3. My mom at her best was 5'9 1/2.
BTW I didn't mean to offend you. I'm autistic and I don't always word things the best. Sorry if I did.
Thanks for explaining that - not hearing the tone of someone's voice in these comments does not help. No offence taken, now I understand.
Now make me cry, how much did you pay for it 40+ years ago? 🤔😢
£80.
@@paulhenshaw4514 Well that was two weeks wages for me back in 1980.
Wonder what it's worth now?
@@paulhenshaw4514 I paid £30 for mine in 1971, when I was 16. Big end didn't last long, though. Taught me a lot about stripping and rebuilding engines.
engine sounded realy sweet icould not hear any knock this time