This is awesome. I’ve been following since the beginning. We’d love to see the street legal “go cart” at Cars and Coffee in Wichita. Next Saturday is the first event of the year.
Search "cars and coffee Wichita" on Facebook. I think its always the 3rd Saturday at The Alley. Many of the Wichita TH-camrs are there, depending on schedules.
Very cool! We designed small engine dynos my 2nd year of Mechanical Engineering classes. Our group used a recirculating hydraulic pump and motor setup to eliminate brake pad wear. We varied flow restriction and measured the hydraulic pressure to determine power.
Good for you on studying mechanical engineering. There is such a wide range of topics for that pursuit. I wonder how you were able to vary flow restriction? This Robot Cantina has the imagination to carry on a wide variety of testing.. I can't wait to see the next one.. How did you manage to measure the hydraulic pressure, if I may ask??🧐🧐🤓
A few years ago I built a much larger hydraulic dyno (google B3 dyno) Unfortunately when I was finished with it I sold it . I think I will look into building another. The little Prony dyno I show in this video works but is only good for little engines.
@@robotcantina8957 Do you have a detailed build video for this dyno and the software? Cant find anything even remotely similar or useful for a diy prony dyno on google.
Thanks, I was wondering how your dyno worked, good stuff 👍. Years ago when I was teaching small engines I rigged up an electric dyno using ammeters, voltmetes, and oven elements for resistance. I'm sure it wasn't very accurate but it gave the students some idea as to the changes in horsepower with different modes. This was before computers, and I didn't have your level of ingenuity. 👍
The data on the dyno is really well done. I have to hand it to Robot Cantina. The charts and graphs are well done indeed. The level of ingenuity in Jimbo is phenomenal. I have been watching this since the first videos and it really should be shown in schools.. This would really be more practical than some stuff in the curriculum now days. Who doesnt want a go - cart like that?
@@kansasrose2909 Yes I do, but not like Jimbo. I use OBDII scanner for my cars. Keeps me from getting ripped off if I have to take it in to get fixed. I at least know what the codes mean and I can usually fix it myself if it isn't too complicated.
It's interesting how you optimized the layout of the video to reach as many people as possible by putting the results at the beginning and the more "tech" stuff at the end for those really interested. Great video I love your content! :)
I believe the audience should always watch to the very end. There are always some surprises worth waiting for. So happy to have Jimbo of Robot Cantina in residence here in Kansas.
Great explanation! I knew the theory behind how a dyno works, but it's another thing to see a practical implementation with a thorough explanation of how all the parts work together. Fascinating!
This channel is sooo great. I had the idea to make a small engine dyno like that a while back but I figured I was missing a detail that I couldn't reproduce at home. Turns out, its just like I thought, though you did it way more professionally than I would have
You are an absolute GENIUS. I enjoy your videos so much. The editing, the content, the music. They are a real pleasure to watch. I subscribed recently when I saw one of the Saturn S Series videos. I cannot believe you don't have more subscribers!
Now that is a really neat suggestion. One of the best I have heard yet.. Hold the quasi constant load to help with tuning.. I learn so much from comments on this channel.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. I also learn a lot from watching Robot Cantina. Do you know if Kansas has any other you - tubers like this. Do you subscribe to this channel??🚙🚙🚙
I've been jetting single cylinder, 4 stroke dirtbikes in the 250-650cc range quite some time. In my experience event a small de-restriction of the exhaust system requires a re-jetting to become efficient. So your assumption seems valid.
Great stuff! Just found your channel by accident. Loved the supercharged 459 story. Your garage is pretty much a power lab - impressive. Perhaps you could turn your attention to running these conversions on alternative fuels as these are around the corner for sure. When I 1st started @ work we were researching H2 storage (early 80's). We had a small side valve engine running on H2 (bottle) driving car alternator & battery, just to demo the idea of H2 as a fuel. Mistake.The chairman came round to see what we were up to. Hot summer day - 3 or 4 test starts (to be sure) - no problem....... Failed to start when required after much pulling on the starter cord by sweaty technician. It had got hot from tests & ambient temp and the mixture in the propane jetted carbide (already lean for H2) just wouldn't fire in hot carb-engine. He left immediately but as he got to the corner of the main building the H2 collecting in the exhaust ducting outside the lab fired & blew the lot into the carpark....they shut us down the following year & we moved onto batteries & EVs - too early in that too! Keep doing crazy stuff please.
I'd love to see you put the hot predator 212 in a road legal motorcycle of some variety. maybe something streetbike adjacent? With valve springs and that billet flywheel, those things rev REALLY high. Does Cars&Cameras know about your channel?
@@modelnutty6503 the "splasher' on the performance rods has a little oil hole in it that squirts oil up through the rod to lube the wrist pin and bottom end bearing
I'm sure cars and cameras are aware of this channel, They focus mostly on Karts, bikes and engines, Great channel for learning mods for these little engines. We do things a little different.
Happy you're back! Been following along since the beginning. Just wanted to chime in and say I really enjoyed the breakdown and calibration of the dyno itself. Nice level of detail.
Hey, the gnomes caught up with you Jim. There goes the neiberhood for the better with things blowing up as they keep stealing the go kart and now go out and tip clans and get drunk.... Thanks for showing off the dyno. Very cool to have it explained what you did and how. Need to take this to a autocross or a drag strip to get reactions from people in a video now also since you moving up in the world to the middle of nowhere.
I have a similar feeling about the gnomes.. They seem to pop up frequently . Some of this goes over my head also. Robot Cantina has a sense of humor also.. What else would you like to see on the videos?
As always: thank you for sharing this epic journey. Funny, smart, entaining, clever, odd, different. But wait... Those little guys looks horribly very much like the infamous Garden Troll Gnome Gang thieves from the deep woods of Norway. Better watch out for those... How the heck did they end up in Kansas??
You could use a large alternator, with a adjustable power supply on the brushes to regulate the load, and short the output through a lot ohm resistor, like a few 12v heating coils in water, with a TQ arm on the engine, or alternator, but it is more complex, but ... Nice work
That is an interesting point.. The data and experiments on Robot Cantina keep me coming back. This channel has a lot to offer. Cant wait for more videos.
@@kansasrose2909 I am also interested in this issue.. The experiments keep me coming back for more Robot Cantina.. Have you subscribed to this channel?
Hello to our friend in Egypt. More content seems to be where Robot is headed.. Many viewers subscribe to this channel Sending good wishes your way.🌍🌎🌍🧭
That you so much for this expertise.. I enjoy watching Robot Cantina. I always learn something from the comment interchange here. I need to brush up on my metric... It should be taught in schools more extensively. I agree to use N m stands for newton metre== never the joule. There is a wide range of interest for this channel Many viewers find it advantageous to subscribe. 🤓🤓
When Gnomes Go Bad 2: Revenge Of The Gnomes. They found you 😀Thanks for the interesting video, your dyno setup is very neat indeed. The amount of effort you have invested in what may seem to some as a frivolous exercise is very impressive!
So wonderful! Thank you with all of my heart, and since your work is of such good quality, the metric crowd forgives you. Just this time though;). Be well. Alicia from Sweden.
Greetings to our friend in Sweden Yes Robot Cantina has good quality work.. The schools here would do well to have some of this in their curriculum.. We need to brush up on our metric. Thank you so much for your kind words. 💝💖
Affirmative.. I would watch Robot Cantina all week and twice on Sundays! This was a fantastic episode. The diagrams and data keep me glued to the screen. I guess because I am a tech geek. The theme song is really catchy too. Many viewers become subscribers and I can see why.. Robot Cantina is one of my favorite car you tubers. Do you have any other fav car you - tubers?🤔🤨
Those little gnomes popped up again. Can't wait to see more mischief. They hitched a ride to Kansas. They have been working their way to Kansas for a while.
Lovely rig, maybe you could do a video going full instead depth about the dyno, also polycarbonate window would be sweet for the dyno as you’d be able to do visual inspections at the same time
I hope you compound a turbo and a twin screw somewhere down the road. The twin screw effectively bumps your displacement up so you can actually spin a small turbo and get some efficient work out of it
@@kansasrose2909 meh, nuke for everything and then we can make synthetic fuels without as much concern for emissions. Or better yet, Vulcanol (look it up if you're not familiar with it)
@@kansasrose2909 It surely is, and yes he does a great job indeed! I love the channel because I'm an electronics and tech nerd AND a gearhead all in one! 😎
very cool little dyno you whipped up. decades ago a buddy built a Datsun 1200 fastback on a diet (all dumb weight possible was removed), the A-12 engine replaced with a built A-15. very quick little beast when it was done, I don't know how it'd compare to the Honda you're playing with regarding weight, both are unibody tuna cans.
Wow this is a great entry.. I learn so much from comments into this channel.. I get what you mean by all dumb weight was removed I bet that was quick . Yes --- unibody tuna cans.. In the present environment this could be looked at for efficiency also. Great concept thanks for that entry. 🚗🚗🚘🚘🚙🛻🛻🚜🚗
@@kansasrose2909 it was another "had to be there" to appreciate things we tinkered up. Russian River area Sonoma County coastal range roads all narrow+twisted, the focus was acceleration and handling not top speed. "faster" cars didn't stand a chance in our playground. Pocket Canyon! from Forestville to Guerneville or opposite, 5.5 miles with 76 corners. to get through in under 5 minutes doesn't sound so bad, until ya try it (oh shit!)
I've always known you can power anything with the right gearing clutches a torque converter to ge rims high e nough to have enough torque to engage . love the dyno
Please consider putting steel between you and the motor. That plywood won't stop shrapnel from a blow up like a flywheel loss. More likely send splinters into you. I would recommend 1/4 inch at least. Other than that, great video on the dyno. Never thought of that and it is a great idea for small engine testing.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, just one more comment.. Those little gnomes like to play inside and outside that garage.. What do you think they will do next??🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️🚙🚙
Hey Jimbo! Could you put a gear reduction between the engine and the drive pulley on your CVT instead of playing with weights? Like a 2:1 jackshaft driving the CVT to allow the engine to rev closer to 4000 before it engages
Yes, I agree here.. I think these kind of films should be shown in schools. I would prefer kids to learn something practical and worthwhile instead of some of the stuff nowadays. The curriculum could stand with some tweeking. This is didactic without being too technical.. Who doesn't want a go cart like this?? 🤗🤗
@@kansasrose2909 I agree these videos should be shown in schools. The curriculum now a days needs something like this.. What do you mean by didactic??😘😘
Loosen the front converter clutch springs LESS whined up time and lower rpm engagement. Tighter springs up front more whined up for higher rpm engagement.
The cheaper the better I say.. Thank you for that comment.. In the current environment with gas prices the way they are we need to go cheap.. Go cheap or go home I say.. YES this channel is Great stuff!! Many viewers favor the content and subscribe
Yeah, that's pretty much what we should have done. As I recall, when we tested the engine in the car we didn't let it wind out enough in each gear. I reckon if we dyno tested the engine first, we would have known its profile.
This would provide a certain synergy that would he hard to duplicate, but in this particular energy climate any boost to engine power would be valuable. I hope Robot Cantina sees this and weighs in with his expertise.
please note that aluminium connecting rods have a set shelf life steel rods have the ability to last forver technically but aluminums fatigue strength decreases this will be fine for many many years to come just look out love these videos sort of thing i love making the smallest thing go fast
I find that fascinating -- water heater elements to put a load on the engine.. That is a genius idea. In this environment we can use all good ideas for economical energy.
Thanks for the video Jimbo, was nice to see the dyno in more details. Do you think a combo "big brushless motor, 3-phase bridge rectifier and a couple of big resistor" could also give a good value, if we have the efficiency of all components?
Hi Ben, I'm not sure you could rely on efficiency numbers to determine the actual load, The best you could hope for is an educated guess. In episode 24 we show our other dyno, and its just a Cadillac alternator. We pull 100 amps at 12V DC and dump it into a resistor load bank. In theory our electric dyno only absorbs 2 hp, however in reality it absorbs quite a bit more. Generally, whatever is used for a power absorber unit has to be mounted in a way that the torque it absorbs can be measured with a strain gauge.
Is there no need to measure the deceleration of the engine? I would guess that your current setup overestimates the engines power, because (angular deceleration)*(moment of inertia) provides an additional source of torque applied to your measuring system. I love your content, thank you for showing the projects!
Hi, looks great. Could you share the schematic of the data logger with me? I would like to build it also for tunning small Engines. Kind regards, Maurice
Hi Maurice, Hopefully you watched the whole video. At the end of the video I show how the dyno was constructed including an overview of the electronics. I don't have a schematic for the dyno . The wiring was very simple if you are familiar with electronics. The dyno used a DATAQ DL-1100 which is obsolete and no longer available. You would need to check the DATAQ website to see what they currently offer in the form of dataloggers. There may be other dataloggers available from other venders. Keep in mind the magneto ignition on a lot of small engines throw a lot of EMI/RFI and whatever datalogger you use has to be able to tolerate the "noise" Arduino based dataloggers cant handle electrical noise.
I extrapolated those horsepower and torque results to a 2.3L volvo engine from the 80's, that's be 160 horsepower and 170 torques. Out of the factory, it was 136 torques and 114 horsepowers. Those are big numbers, hot damn.
Love the show, but I gotta ask. I'm in tech training and we are always told that oil (wd40) will contaminate the brake pads. Is there some kind of gnome magic at work that makes the dyno brake pad immune?
You don't want it on your brakes on your car, but the dyno isn't meant to stop a heavy car, it's meant to load the engine. He says in the video that the WD40 "smooths the engagement" of the brakes. My interpretation is that it prevents a large spike in braking force during engagement, which might kill the engine rather than generate useful data. Therefore, the WD40 helps the brakes work "less well" in a desirable way for this application.
I'm curious to see the Dyno results with the air filter on and muffler off I gotta feeling it would make more power with that setup but I'm probably wrong but I would still like to see that test Mr. Cantina.
The Mikuni of Japan is indeed very interesting... Robot Cantina may see this comment and respond. I hope to see more interesting content. Did you see season one??
@@robotcantina8957 was going by what I recalled reading in a Sudco catalog I got *many* years ago. Sudco was/is a major importer of Mikuni carbs, and the round-slide VM series was standard wear for a lot of two-strokes in years past.
Somewhat unrelated, this got me to thinking about power/weight ratios. I believe the go kart, when it was a car, used 50bhp to maintain a cruise. I suspect with the current weight that about 30bhp is the optimal. I also suspect it won't get worse mpg, once efficiency is optimized. That would probably take a 400cc motorbike engine, maybe out of a DRZ. Or maybe the Big Block can get there, eventually. I think getting to 60 in 20 seconds, like a beetle, would be a reasonable goal so you can at least avoid getting rear-ended.
The best part of the hillbilly proving grounds is no traffic. This car is too slow for most roads. I think we pretty much reached the limits of the Bigblock and the supercharger will take it to the next level.
The funny thing about the freedom units, is that back in the old days Canadian racing video games used imperial units instead of metrics because they only made one version for both USA and Canada. So I am more used to horsepower than kilowatt as engine power measure.
@@mikescudder4621 I am going to refer to wikipedia: Horsepower (hp) is a unit of measurement of power, or the rate at which work is done, usually in reference to the output of engines or motors. There are many different standards and types of horsepower. Two common definitions used today are the mechanical horsepower (or imperial horsepower), which is about 745.7 watts and the metric horsepower, which is approximately 735.5 watts. Keyword here is imperal horsepower. Same thing for watt The watt (symbol: W) is a unit of power or radiant flux. In the International System of Units (SI), it is defined as a derived unit of (in SI base units)[1][2] 1 kg⋅m2⋅s−3 or, equivalently,[3] 1 joule per second. It is used to quantify the rate of energy transfer. The watt is named after James Watt (1736-1819), an 18th-century Scottish inventor. The SI is the metric system that I am referring to. That watt is SI the horsepower is not.[Edit] put both in same comment
@@Hailtothebreak The keyword is metric HP. You thought that the metric equivalent of HP was Kilowatt, which is understandable. I'm just pointing out that HP is both a metric and imperial unit.
@@mikescudder4621 I completely miss read your comment and I look like a fool lol. Yes you are correct the term horse power do refer to both HP and PS and yes there is almost no difference. I understood the unit horespower PS has little to no difference to KW when reading your comment hence the confusion. I owe you an apology. Comments when half asleep is a bad idea. [Edit] One thing however the metric equivalent of HP is Kilowatt. The SI one at least. Australia uses KW for engines and metric horsepower is not officially SI (ie not officially a metric measurement).
Wow, that was an excellent overview of the dyno. Nicely done too. One question, why would you not use an electric generator as the load and measure the power out...wait, that will be much more complex and big.
You would also need to calibrate that. The amount of power produced by the generator would be less than the amount of power delivered to it by the engine, since there are losses in converting the mechanical energy to electrical energy and they are quite substantial. By measuring torque and speed separately, you can more easily calibrate each of those independently, rather than measuring power directly which requires a known source of power.
Very good videos. Kind of hard to believe you didn't put a brace/bracket/support on that carburetor hanging off of that vibrating ass engine. Just ask anyone that's ever owned an old Harley. I think you inaccurately blamed the intake because the result you got was inevitable. Still you're doing good keep up the good work.
Nice description of the dyno. Will the gnomes be wreaking havoc on our favorite go kart? Now.....let's talk future power options! Drum roll please......😁
This is awesome. I’ve been following since the beginning. We’d love to see the street legal “go cart” at Cars and Coffee in Wichita. Next Saturday is the first event of the year.
That would make a neat video. I guess it would have to be shot in between tear downs, ha.
I have also followed since the beginning. What are some details of Cars and Coffee in Wichita. Do they have
other car you tubers there?
Search "cars and coffee Wichita" on Facebook. I think its always the 3rd Saturday at The Alley. Many of the Wichita TH-camrs are there, depending on schedules.
@@YesThatColin Thank you so much for this information.. I hope Jimbo of Robot Cantina can see this
and go from there. I do appreciate this.
That would be really cool
Any plans to try the new 459cc Predator?
It has an oil pump! Oil cooler anyone? Maybe a turbo? :D
Never mind, I see one in the background 👀
@@WyFoster Many viewers find it advantageous to subscribe to the channel.
@@kansasrose2909 Yes Kansas, I do subscribe.. I am looking forward to seeing those garden gnomes🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️
@@mommapanda5736 Momma, I don't know about gnomes but I did see a train racing by
ROBOT CANTINA'S property 🚝🚝🚝
Very cool! We designed small engine dynos my 2nd year of Mechanical Engineering classes. Our group used a recirculating hydraulic pump and motor setup to eliminate brake pad wear. We varied flow restriction and measured the hydraulic pressure to determine power.
Good for you on studying mechanical engineering. There is such a wide range of topics for that pursuit. I wonder how you were
able to vary flow restriction? This Robot Cantina has the imagination to carry on a wide variety of testing.. I can't wait to
see the next one.. How did you manage to measure the hydraulic pressure, if I may ask??🧐🧐🤓
A few years ago I built a much larger hydraulic dyno (google B3 dyno) Unfortunately when I was finished with it I sold it . I think I will look into building another. The little Prony dyno I show in this video works but is only good for little engines.
@@kansasrose2909 KANSAS..Yes Robot Cantina has the imagination
I can't wait to see more of this..
@@robotcantina8957 Do you have a detailed build video for this dyno and the software? Cant find anything even remotely similar or useful for a diy prony dyno on google.
@@jonpippen6998 A video and plans for the for the small engine dyno will be a great contribution to your to
Very cool dyno explanation. I can't wait to see what kind of "vehicle" the 212 ends up in!
Yes.. good question.. Kansas is the proud home to Robot Cantina of DYNO fame. Can't wait to see... 🚗🚗🚗🚛🏍🚗
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. What is it about Kansas that you like?
DYNO... did you see those gnomes?🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️🔧🔧 They may have some mischief I suspect😜😜
@@mommapanda5736 Still trying to wrap my head around the gnomes?!? Need to watch season 1 still....
Thanks, I was wondering how your dyno worked, good stuff 👍. Years ago when I was teaching small engines I rigged up an electric dyno using ammeters, voltmetes, and oven elements for resistance. I'm sure it wasn't very accurate but it gave the students some idea as to the changes in horsepower with different modes. This was before computers, and I didn't have your level of ingenuity. 👍
The data on the dyno is really well done. I have to hand it to Robot Cantina. The charts and graphs are well done indeed.
The level of ingenuity in Jimbo is phenomenal. I have been watching this since the first videos and it really should be
shown in schools.. This would really be more practical than some stuff in the curriculum now days.
Who doesnt want a go - cart like that?
@@kansasrose2909 I agree!
@@dangerousdave5915 Dangerous. Do you like using computers for car data?
@@kansasrose2909 Yes I do, but not like Jimbo. I use OBDII scanner for my cars. Keeps me from getting ripped off if I have to take it in to get fixed. I at least know what the codes mean and I can usually fix it myself if it isn't too complicated.
@@dangerousdave5915 Dangerous. Complicated?? I am not sure you would find much to be complicated
Just found this channel. Nice job. Well explained. Your simple dyno is a thing of beauty
It's interesting how you optimized the layout of the video to reach as many people as possible by putting the results at the beginning and the more "tech" stuff at the end for those really interested. Great video I love your content! :)
I believe the audience should always watch to the very end. There are always some surprises worth waiting for.
So happy to have Jimbo of Robot Cantina in residence here in Kansas.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, when you say surprises do you mean those little gnomes??🧸🧸
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. I would like to see a little more tech stuff.. Does he show that at the end??
Great explanation! I knew the theory behind how a dyno works, but it's another thing to see a practical implementation with a thorough explanation of how all the parts work together. Fascinating!
Loved the dyno explanation at the end. I wish more channels showed how things work!
That is a good comment. It is well worth watching to the end.
@@mommapanda5736 Momma.. I sometimes don't watch till the end.. I surf the channels.
This channel is sooo great. I had the idea to make a small engine dyno like that a while back but I figured I was missing a detail that I couldn't reproduce at home. Turns out, its just like I thought, though you did it way more professionally than I would have
Glad your back! I've watched from the beginning. Thks!
I like the educational and fun content... Just found this..
You are an absolute GENIUS. I enjoy your videos so much. The editing, the content, the music. They are a real pleasure to watch. I subscribed recently when I saw one of the Saturn S Series videos. I cannot believe you don't have more subscribers!
Those dyno numbers truly show that tuning is not just about swapping or adding parts, but rather how said parts work together.
🤓
So glad you’re back!!!
So glad to have you back. I was pleasantly surprised to see a new video this morning I got used the wait. Keep ‘em coming and stay safe bro.
I'm going to try and release one per week if possible, Of course some projects take a bit more time.
@@robotcantina8957 My Sunday coffees looks forward to it.
The little ones are back too. Keep it up.
Those little gnomes did pop up again! We will see what mischief develops in the future
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, I really like those emoji, but they don't look like gnomes to me. they look like cats.
@@mommapanda5736 Did you say cats??🐱🐱🐱😺😺😺
so glad your back!! watched the last episode as soon as it came out. glad you had a safe trip!!
Robot Cantina will have many great episodes. Kansas is proud to have him in residence
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas... What do you like about Kansas??
@@mommapanda5736 Momma,, I think Kansas is known for the Wizard of Oz🌈Somewhere
over the rainbow...
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas is home to Wizard of Oz 🌈🌈🌈 and
Robot Cantina🚙🚙🚙
It would be neat to have digital control of the brake so you could hold quasi constant load to help with tuning
Now that is a really neat suggestion. One of the best I have heard yet.. Hold the quasi constant load to help
with tuning.. I learn so much from comments on this channel.
The open source "simple dyno" software allows you to automate this, given suitable interfaces to the hardware, and does all the data processing.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. I also learn a lot from watching Robot Cantina. Do you know if Kansas
has any other you - tubers like this. Do you subscribe to this channel??🚙🚙🚙
Just another comment on this.. I believe those gnomes may pop up again🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️
Does Kansas have a lot of gnomes??☺️☺️☺️☺️
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas,,,, I like the split screen Jimbo does at the beginning..
Splendid dyno. Love the way you apply the load. Pragmatism is your strong suit sir. Keep on keepin’ on.
In this energy conscious environment.. Pragmatism is the way to go.. Love the way he applies the load as well.
Hope he keeps on keepin' on 🚌🚐🚕🚗🚗🚙⛽⛽⛽
Much appreciated
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, I am glad you are a practical gal.. Don't even ask me about the price of gas😲😲😲
@@mommapanda5736 Momma.. did you say the price of gas??⛽⛽⛽ woo boy😜😜
That was interesting, I really didn't know how a dyno worked, but honestly the way you explained it made it make sense!
The explanations that Jimbo offers are great.. Robot Cantina loves Kansas and Kansas love the channel 🪁🪁🪁♥♥
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas what is it you like about Kansas?
@@mommapanda5736 Momma, I do like the train that races by ROBOT CANTINA'S property🚝🚝🚝
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. You are famous for the Wizard of Oz
and ROBOT CANTINA
I somehow missed your last upload, but now im twice as happy being able to watch two back to back!
So glad you got to enjoy two back to back.. I binge watch the channel on Sundays myself.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas,, you mention Sunday.. I believe that is the day another video comes out.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, I am new to this Channel but I like what I see so far.
Is WD-40 also good if you have a ex that needs brake work in the mountain switchbacks?
It burns off pretty quick, so plan accordingly.
@@robotcantina8957 I'll go with lithium grease & teflon brake pads then. Thanks for your help!
I've been jetting single cylinder, 4 stroke dirtbikes in the 250-650cc range quite some time. In my experience event a small de-restriction of the exhaust system requires a re-jetting to become efficient. So your assumption seems valid.
Very well setup dyno man... keep up the clever work and cool content, thank you!
Nice episode Jimbo! You really go deep on your explanations. Thanks!
Yes to this comment. Jimbo of Robot Cantina goes into the data and explains things. I find that
I learn alot from each episode.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas Did you watch Robot Cantina season one??
@@kansasrose2909 Yes agree with you.. I would like to see more of the Kansas prairie on the channel.
Great stuff! Just found your channel by accident. Loved the supercharged 459 story. Your garage is pretty much a power lab - impressive. Perhaps you could turn your attention to running these conversions on alternative fuels as these are around the corner for sure. When I 1st started @ work we were researching H2 storage (early 80's). We had a small side valve engine running on H2 (bottle) driving car alternator & battery, just to demo the idea of H2 as a fuel. Mistake.The chairman came round to see what we were up to. Hot summer day - 3 or 4 test starts (to be sure) - no problem....... Failed to start when required after much pulling on the starter cord by sweaty technician. It had got hot from tests & ambient temp and the mixture in the propane jetted carbide (already lean for H2) just wouldn't fire in hot carb-engine. He left immediately but as he got to the corner of the main building the H2 collecting in the exhaust ducting outside the lab fired & blew the lot into the carpark....they shut us down the following year & we moved onto batteries & EVs - too early in that too! Keep doing crazy stuff please.
Happy to see you back! Lets see this channel hit a 100k!
Yes indeed.. many viewers like it and subscribe as well
Working on it!
@@kansasrose2909 Yes indeed, I not only subscribe but view each episode as well. ☺️☺️☺️
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, Have you watched all of season one??
I don’t think you have ever made a disappointing episode. As always keep up the good work 👍
I appreciate that!
I'd love to see you put the hot predator 212 in a road legal motorcycle of some variety. maybe something streetbike adjacent? With valve springs and that billet flywheel, those things rev REALLY high.
Does Cars&Cameras know about your channel?
on the downside, at high revs the little oil splasher can't keep things lubed.
@@modelnutty6503 the "splasher' on the performance rods has a little oil hole in it that squirts oil up through the rod to lube the wrist pin and bottom end bearing
I'm sure cars and cameras are aware of this channel, They focus mostly on Karts, bikes and engines, Great channel for learning mods for these little engines. We do things a little different.
It would make a mini-bike pretty exciting to ride!
The new Honda Navi needs this
Happy you're back! Been following along since the beginning.
Just wanted to chime in and say I really enjoyed the breakdown and calibration of the dyno itself. Nice level of detail.
Yes to more power.. Dyno all the way.. Robot Cantina is technical and fun to watch. I believe another
video is out this weekend.
Thanks for that!
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. DId you see the train that races by 🚝🚝 ROBOT CANTINA'S property🚙🚙??
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. When you say more power, are you talking about the price of gas??⛽⛽⛽
Hey, the gnomes caught up with you Jim. There goes the neiberhood for the better with things blowing up as they keep stealing the go kart and now go out and tip clans and get drunk....
Thanks for showing off the dyno. Very cool to have it explained what you did and how. Need to take this to a autocross or a drag strip to get reactions from people in a video now also since you moving up in the world to the middle of nowhere.
Yes, Those gnomes🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️🔧🔧🚙🚙 caught up to him! The have fun inside and outside the garage😄😄
@@mommapanda5736 yes they do.
@@mommapanda5736 Momma, I don't know about gnomes but a train🚝🚝🚝 goes by his
garage frequently.. Is that a plus or minus??
WOW puts a new spin on "Mad Scientist Laboratory" great share - looking forward to the next reveal.
The gnomes are cute. Some of this goes over my head, but I really like the delivery. Keep up the good work!
I have a similar feeling about the gnomes.. They seem to pop up frequently . Some of this goes over my
head also. Robot Cantina has a sense of humor also.. What else would you like to see on the videos?
Momma, It looks like you are conversing with yourself?
@@mommapanda5736 Mama, I do that myself sometimes. 😂😂
Sometimes I answer myself and we both laugh and laugh 🥰🥰🥰
@@ocdman202 Here are some colleges to consider.
Thanks for showing the dyno. Also a big thanks for mot using the _ _ _ _ metric system.
Yes to this. I like freedom units. This is a fun channel to watch.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, Have you seen season one of Robot Cantina?
As always: thank you for sharing this epic journey. Funny, smart, entaining, clever, odd, different. But wait... Those little guys looks horribly very much like the infamous Garden Troll Gnome Gang thieves from the deep woods of Norway. Better watch out for those... How the heck did they end up in Kansas??
Glad you came back
I will give a little advice for the Robot. He should have a replacement while he is away. . and now I am glad he is back.
@@kansasrose2909 Yes to this.. Robot Cantina has quite a good channel. I find myself watching these videos
often. 🚙🚙🚙🚙🚙
@@mommapanda5736 Momma, I am new to this channel , but I like what I see so far.
@@kansasrose2909 🤓
That's a really neat setup!
Hope that the garden gnomes had a great vacation.
Garden gnomes... They may pop up again We shall see what mischief ensues.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas,, What mischief do you think will happen in a garage?
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas just one more comment Those garden gnomes like to play inside
and outside the garage🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️🚙
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. are those gnomes anything like munchkin??🧸🧸🧸
You could use a large alternator, with a adjustable power supply on the brushes to regulate the load, and short the output through a lot ohm resistor, like a few 12v heating coils in water, with a TQ arm on the engine, or alternator, but it is more complex, but ...
Nice work
This is cool. Now im interested to see the difference torque converter makes to the torque curve.
That is an interesting point.. The data and experiments on Robot Cantina keep me coming back.
This channel has a lot to offer. Cant wait for more videos.
@@kansasrose2909 I am also interested in this issue.. The experiments keep me coming back
for more Robot Cantina.. Have you subscribed to this channel?
@@mommapanda5736 I may subscribe, however I would like to see more humor on this channel
More content please!
Loving your content from Egypt.
Hello to our friend in Egypt. More content seems to be where Robot is headed.. Many viewers subscribe to this channel
Sending good wishes your way.🌍🌎🌍🧭
More to come!
How does this engine stay cool? Just a mixture of oil in the gas?
Hp, rpm are the same in metric, altho Hp is sometimes replaced by KW but Hp is a higher number so everybody use it.
For torque we use Nm
That you so much for this expertise.. I enjoy watching Robot Cantina. I always learn something from the comment
interchange here. I need to brush up on my metric... It should be taught in schools more extensively. I agree
to use N m stands for newton metre== never the joule. There is a wide range of interest for this channel
Many viewers find it advantageous to subscribe. 🤓🤓
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. There is quite a wide range of interest in this channel. I not only subscribe but
enjoy viewing the new videos as well. 🚙🚙☺️
When Gnomes Go Bad 2: Revenge Of The Gnomes. They found you 😀Thanks for the interesting video, your dyno setup is very neat indeed. The amount of effort you have invested in what may seem to some as a frivolous exercise is very impressive!
Effort? Yes, it seems that Jimbo is one of the hardest working you - tubers out there. Can't wait to see more
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas did you see those little gnomes.?? Now that he is in the new garage we may see
more of them.
@@mommapanda5736 Momma, What do gnomes have to do with a garage??
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. I think that Jimbo does put a lot of effort into these videos.
I leave them on while I am working in my garage..
Very nice, and I'm seconding about the 459cc. Don't worry, Jimbo, most of us in the audience only have one kind of PhD, and that's Projects half Done!
Love that PhD.. Great ---- half done.. So fun ! Jimbo has a lot of fun with this also.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas... Did you see those garden gnomes??🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️⛲🔧🔧☺️
@@mommapanda5736 Momma what do garden gnomes have to do with a garage??
@@kansasrose2909 🤓
So wonderful! Thank you with all of my heart, and since your work is of such good quality, the metric crowd forgives you. Just this time though;).
Be well.
Alicia from Sweden.
Greetings to our friend in Sweden Yes Robot Cantina has good quality work.. The schools here would do well to
have some of this in their curriculum.. We need to brush up on our metric. Thank you so much for your kind words. 💝💖
Thank you very much!
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, Did you study the metric system in school??📋📋
I just love your videos. Great ingenuity! You do great work! 👍🏼
Totally affirmative to this. The channel is well worth watching.. Did you see he season one?😄
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. How is the weather in Kansas.. I hear it can be exciting in the spring. 😀
@@mommapanda5736 Momma, I just started watching this channel and I like what I see so far...
Fantastic episode! I watched it twice. Can't get enough of Robot Cantina. Does anyone else whistle the theme song all day long?
Affirmative.. I would watch Robot Cantina all week and twice on Sundays! This was a fantastic episode. The diagrams
and data keep me glued to the screen. I guess because I am a tech geek. The theme song is really catchy too.
Many viewers become subscribers and I can see why.. Robot Cantina is one of my favorite car you tubers. Do you have
any other fav car you - tubers?🤔🤨
@@kansasrose2909 yes me I do videos on my cars however not as good as these.
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@@DIYWilly I think I will check you out.. Thanks
@@kansasrose2909 I appreciate that thank you. 🙏
@@kansasrose2909 I agree with you -- it was a fantastic episode.. I like the split screens at the beginning.
Looks like those little buggers hitched a ride! 😆
Those little gnomes popped up again. Can't wait to see more mischief. They hitched a ride to Kansas.
They have been working their way to Kansas for a while.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, I really like you emoji but they look like cats popping up to me.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas... What kind of mischief could gnomes get into??😉😉
Lovely rig, maybe you could do a video going full instead depth about the dyno, also polycarbonate window would be sweet for the dyno as you’d be able to do visual inspections at the same time
I hope you compound a turbo and a twin screw somewhere down the road. The twin screw effectively bumps your displacement up so you can actually spin a small turbo and get some efficient work out of it
This comment is so important in the present energy environment. We all need efficient work out of every vehicle.
@@kansasrose2909 meh, nuke for everything and then we can make synthetic fuels without as much concern for emissions. Or better yet, Vulcanol (look it up if you're not familiar with it)
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas,, Yes efficiency is what we need.. We need to lighten the load ...
@@mommapanda5736 Momma, Don't even talk about the price of gas⛽⛽⛽!!
Interesting and amusing update. Always a pleasure to watch your videos :-)
Yes to this.. I would watch this channel every day of the week and twice on Sundays.. Well worth the time.
@@kansasrose2909 Agree 🙂
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. When you mention Sunday, I think that is when a new video comes out.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, I agree, I just found this channel and find it well worth the time..
This guy is super smart!
Great vid once again, bud! Loved the Dyno setup and explanation especially!! 😎
Fascinating to see something on paper then see it put into practice. Robot Cantina does a great job.
@@kansasrose2909 It surely is, and yes he does a great job indeed! I love the channel because I'm an electronics and tech nerd AND a gearhead all in one! 😎
Thanks! 👍
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. I would like to see more of Kansas Prairie on these videos 🏡🏡🏕🏕
I was always rooting for that 212. Thanks for the update.
I liked the 212 also. Especially pull starting the car was a hoot!
@@dangerousdave5915 Dangerous Yes.. pull starting the car was a hoot.. What did you like about the 212??🚙🚙🚙🚙
@@dangerousdave5915 dangerous.. Pull starting was a hoot.. I would like to see more humor on this channel
I was laughing my ass off at the post hole digger joke. You've earned the sub.
Yes to that... Some PhD's are not humble at all... Jimbo is so funny. 😊😊
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas do you have a Phd??🤓
@@mommapanda5736 Momma, being a PhD is no laughing matter.. 👍👍
less go im early im sad to see you leave Michigan but rooting for your project bud
Don't worry we'll take good care of him :)
Thanks!
Thanks for taking time to make us an video
Yes to Robot Cantina. Many viewers like to subscribe to the channel.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas Rose did you watch season one of the video series?? It is great🚙🚙🚕🚕🚕🚕👍
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, I am new to this channel, but I like what I see so far.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. I would like to see more of the Kansas prairie for test drives.
very cool little dyno you whipped up. decades ago a buddy built a Datsun 1200 fastback on a diet (all dumb weight possible was removed), the A-12 engine replaced with a built A-15. very quick little beast when it was done, I don't know how it'd compare to the Honda you're playing with regarding weight, both are unibody tuna cans.
Wow this is a great entry.. I learn so much from comments into this channel.. I get what you mean by all dumb weight was removed
I bet that was quick . Yes --- unibody tuna cans.. In the present environment this could be looked at for efficiency also.
Great concept thanks for that entry. 🚗🚗🚘🚘🚙🛻🛻🚜🚗
@@kansasrose2909 it was another "had to be there" to appreciate things we tinkered up. Russian River area Sonoma County coastal range roads all narrow+twisted, the focus was acceleration and handling not top speed.
"faster" cars didn't stand a chance in our playground. Pocket Canyon!
from Forestville to Guerneville or opposite, 5.5 miles with 76 corners. to get through in under 5 minutes doesn't sound so bad, until ya try it (oh shit!)
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. When you talk about efficiency are you talking about gas??⛽⛽⛽
I've always known you can power anything with the right gearing clutches a torque converter to ge rims high e nough to have enough torque to engage . love the dyno
Please consider putting steel between you and the motor. That plywood won't stop shrapnel from a blow up like a flywheel loss. More likely send splinters into you. I would recommend 1/4 inch at least. Other than that, great video on the dyno. Never thought of that and it is a great idea for small engine testing.
Thank you so much for mentioning safety features for Jimbo of Robot Cantina. I hope Jimbo sees this. Your concern is
appreciated. 😊
Glad to see you are back
Back? I am so sorry that he was away so long too, Kansas is so happy to have Robot Cantina in residence.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. Have you been watching since the beginning of Robot Cantina.
what is your favorite episode??🧙♂️🔧
Kansas, Just one more comment. Those little gnomes🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️ like tools🔧🔧🔧☺️☺️
@@mommapanda5736 Momma, I just started watching this channel and I like it so far.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey this is sooo awesome 👏 thanks and the last moments just topped it.
Affirmative And those cute little gnomes popped up again we can't wait to see what happens next
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, What type of mischief do expect to see in a garage?
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, just one more comment.. Those little gnomes like to play inside and outside
that garage.. What do you think they will do next??🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️🚙🚙
The weight of the train was 1.75KG? Was it Hornby, Bachmann, Heljan, or a mixed selection put together?
Hey Jimbo! Could you put a gear reduction between the engine and the drive pulley on your CVT instead of playing with weights? Like a 2:1 jackshaft driving the CVT to allow the engine to rev closer to 4000 before it engages
Very interesting. Great video.
You should upgrade the transmission on your street legal go-kart.
Jimbo succeeds where most others fail, he makes learning fun
Yes, I agree here.. I think these kind of films should be shown in schools. I would prefer kids to learn something
practical and worthwhile instead of some of the stuff nowadays. The curriculum could stand with some tweeking.
This is didactic without being too technical.. Who doesn't want a go cart like this?? 🤗🤗
@@kansasrose2909 I agree these videos should be shown in schools. The curriculum now a days
needs something like this.. What do you mean by didactic??😘😘
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. I would like a go - cart like this🚗🚗 Do you have enough didactic learning
to have a PhD. 😇??
Loosen the front converter clutch springs LESS whined up time and lower rpm engagement. Tighter springs up front more whined up for higher rpm engagement.
Great stuff! Yep those Amazon carbs and intakes are cheap and it shows. My VM22 had a pilot jet big enough to drive a semi truck thru!
The cheaper the better I say.. Thank you for that comment.. In the current environment with gas prices the way they are
we need to go cheap.. Go cheap or go home I say.. YES this channel is Great stuff!! Many viewers favor the content and
subscribe
@@kansasrose2909 Yep I know what you mean. I've been subscribed to Robot Cantina since the beginning.
@@kansasrose2909 Don't even mention the price of gas!😜
@@mommapanda5736 Momma Price of gas??⛽⛽⛽⛽ woo boy!!
Can you guys dyno the new Wildcat 223cc engines? They are amazing on my boat so powerful!
Thanks for the dyno details, have to wonder how the 212 would've gone staring a gear or two lower seeing as it has no bottom end torque...
Yeah, that's pretty much what we should have done. As I recall, when we tested the engine in the car we didn't let it wind out enough in each gear. I reckon if we dyno tested the engine first, we would have known its profile.
@@robotcantina8957 this really is fascinating stuff, I like the methodology and the humour added in, it's a nice balance! Beware the gnomes...
@@IJ-E36 I am new to this channel, I like the humour as well.
Will you be putting the 670cc engine when done testing with the 420cc?? That would be interesting to see the difference
Love the mouse pad!
Love it also.. Robot Cantina has so many neat things in the studio/garage.🐁🐀🐁
Thanks! It was really hard to get.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas did you see those little gnomes?🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️🔧🔧🔧☺️☺️☺️
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. Did you see that red door inside his studio.. 🟥🟥 I wonder where
it leads??
PHD... 🤣 I'm so using this dad joke at the earliest opportunity.
Those gnomes knew your new address before you did!
Yes-- Those little gnomes popped upagain.. We shall see what mischief ensues.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, What kind of mischief do you think will happen in a garage?
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, those emoji look like cats to me..
I wonder, could you use the small engine in conjunction with the big one in something like a Adkinson cycle ore a mild pre stage compression 🤔
This would provide a certain synergy that would he hard to duplicate, but in this particular energy climate any boost
to engine power would be valuable. I hope Robot Cantina sees this and weighs in with his expertise.
@@kansasrose2909 Robot Cantina often replies to the comments on this channel.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. When you say... this energy climate are you talking about the
price of gas??⛽⛽⛽⛽ woo boy😲😲
@@mommapanda5736 Momma, That was one of my complaints.. now I'll have to find another complaint. 😜
My engine has 26lb springs, flat top piston - but no small chamber head, and .309" cam, what kind of power does that make
please note that aluminium connecting rods have a set shelf life steel rods have the ability to last forver technically but aluminums fatigue strength decreases
this will be fine for many many years to come just look out
love these videos sort of thing i love making the smallest thing go fast
Could you use a electric motor connected as a generator and use water heater elements to put a load on the engine for a more accurate power out put ?
I find that fascinating -- water heater elements to put a load on the engine.. That is a genius idea. In this environment
we can use all good ideas for economical energy.
@@kansasrose2909 each element is rated for a certain wattage. The more heater elements the more power it would take to power each one.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, Don't even mention the price of gas!🚕🚙🚕🚙
@@mommapanda5736 Momma, Price of gas== woo boy😆😆
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas. are you referring to the price of gas??⛽⛽⛽
Can you try a scoop intake? It should help a little at top speed, might be good for an extra MPH or two.
This entry is very thoughtful.. What do you mean by scoop intake? Anything to help increase MPH is
helpful in the present energy environment. 😜😏
@@kansasrose2909 By price of gas, I hear you. What can be done in this energy environment??
@@mommapanda5736 Momma, Price of gas??⛽⛽⛽⛽ woo boy !!!
Thanks for the video Jimbo, was nice to see the dyno in more details.
Do you think a combo "big brushless motor, 3-phase bridge rectifier and a couple of big resistor" could also give a good value, if we have the efficiency of all components?
Hi Ben,
I'm not sure you could rely on efficiency numbers to determine the actual load, The best you could hope for is an educated guess. In episode 24 we show our other dyno, and its just a Cadillac alternator. We pull 100 amps at 12V DC and dump it into a resistor load bank. In theory our electric dyno only absorbs 2 hp, however in reality it absorbs quite a bit more. Generally, whatever is used for a power absorber unit has to be mounted in a way that the torque it absorbs can be measured with a strain gauge.
Is there no need to measure the deceleration of the engine?
I would guess that your current setup overestimates the engines power, because (angular deceleration)*(moment of inertia) provides an additional source of torque applied to your measuring system.
I love your content, thank you for showing the projects!
🤓
The gnomes got a ride! Yahooo! 🙌🏼👏🏼
Those little gnomes popped up again.. We shall see what mischief ensues.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. What type of mischief could possibly happen in a garage?
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas,just one more comment.. Those gnomes like to
play inside and outside the garage.. 🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️
I still say you should bring this thing up to the car show in St.Ignace. I would love to check it out in person.
That is a very enticing thought. Do you have any details on that? I hope Jimbo sees this entry.
Unfortunately St Ignance would be a log ride, I have recently moved from Michigan to Kansas, however I bet the car would make the journey no problem.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, I have noticed that Robot Cantina does answer some of these comments.
@@mommapanda5736 Momma that was my only complaint.. now I'll have to find other criticism 😜
Hi, looks great. Could you share the schematic of the data logger with me? I would like to build it also for tunning small Engines. Kind regards, Maurice
Hi Maurice, Hopefully you watched the whole video. At the end of the video I show how the dyno was constructed including an overview of the electronics. I don't have a schematic for the dyno . The wiring was very simple if you are familiar with electronics. The dyno used a DATAQ DL-1100 which is obsolete and no longer available. You would need to check the DATAQ website to see what they currently offer in the form of dataloggers. There may be other dataloggers available from other venders. Keep in mind the magneto ignition on a lot of small engines throw a lot of EMI/RFI and whatever datalogger you use has to be able to tolerate the "noise" Arduino based dataloggers cant handle electrical noise.
I extrapolated those horsepower and torque results to a 2.3L volvo engine from the 80's, that's be 160 horsepower and 170 torques. Out of the factory, it was 136 torques and 114 horsepowers. Those are big numbers, hot damn.
Sounds like a B230
@@135tvyeah2 The B23F/B230F specifically.
Love the show, but I gotta ask. I'm in tech training and we are always told that oil (wd40) will contaminate the brake pads.
Is there some kind of gnome magic at work that makes the dyno brake pad immune?
You don't want it on your brakes on your car, but the dyno isn't meant to stop a heavy car, it's meant to load the engine. He says in the video that the WD40 "smooths the engagement" of the brakes. My interpretation is that it prevents a large spike in braking force during engagement, which might kill the engine rather than generate useful data. Therefore, the WD40 helps the brakes work "less well" in a desirable way for this application.
I'm curious to see the Dyno results with the air filter on and muffler off I gotta feeling it would make more power with that setup but I'm probably wrong but I would still like to see that test Mr. Cantina.
Me too, I hope to see this test on ROBOT CANTINA. Hopefully another video comes out this weekend. ☺☺
Hmmm... Kansas, eh?
Kansas is proud to be home to Robot Cantina.. You can see that little go-cart on our back roads... SO Proud
Hey Jake!
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, You can be proud of Wizard of Oz🌈🌈 and
Robot Cantina 🚗🚗🚗!!
Funny that the dyno is almost a «oh btw here's the rudimentary dyno I made». Its goddamn awesome
Thanks for the comment. More videos to come from Robot Cantina.
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. What would you like to see in future video??
@@mommapanda5736 Momma, I would like to see more of the split screens from Robot Cantina.
VM22? Normally with a sho’nuff Mikuni, that would be 22mm. Are the copies bigger?
The Mikuni of Japan is indeed very interesting... Robot Cantina may see this comment and respond. I hope to see
more interesting content. Did you see season one??
I think you are correct, the VM22 I used was purchased from amazon and its listed as a 26mm, however others have indicated that its a 22mm.
@@robotcantina8957 was going by what I recalled reading in a Sudco catalog I got *many* years ago. Sudco was/is a major importer of Mikuni carbs, and the round-slide VM series was standard wear for a lot of two-strokes in years past.
@@kansasrose2909 I do believe that Robot Cantina does respond to these comments. We love his input and expertise.
@@kansasrose2909 Talk about interesting content?? I would like to see more car stuff on this channel
Somewhat unrelated, this got me to thinking about power/weight ratios. I believe the go kart, when it was a car, used 50bhp to maintain a cruise. I suspect with the current weight that about 30bhp is the optimal. I also suspect it won't get worse mpg, once efficiency is optimized. That would probably take a 400cc motorbike engine, maybe out of a DRZ. Or maybe the Big Block can get there, eventually. I think getting to 60 in 20 seconds, like a beetle, would be a reasonable goal so you can at least avoid getting rear-ended.
The best part of the hillbilly proving grounds is no traffic. This car is too slow for most roads. I think we pretty much reached the limits of the Bigblock and the supercharger will take it to the next level.
I doubt the Insight ever needed 50 HP to cruise, the original engine only made 67 HP. The weight isn't really a factor when cruising on flat ground.
@@gasolinefumes Thank you for this thoughtful comment. In the current energy environment, we all should be
cruising on flat ground. 📈📉📈📉🚙🚙🚗🛻⛽⛽⛽
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas. Don't even talk about the price of gas⛽⛽⛽😛
You handle pressure extremely well Jimbo. 😄
Yes this is very thoughtful.. We know that the pressure of gas is directly proportional to its temperature.
Gas is so important to this channel
I try
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, I just started watching this channel. It does seem educational
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas.. Don't even ask about the price of gas.. ⛽⛽⛽!!
The funny thing about the freedom units, is that back in the old days Canadian racing video games used imperial units instead of metrics because they only made one version for both USA and Canada. So I am more used to horsepower than kilowatt as engine power measure.
The term horsepower is also metric, theres very little difference between the two.
@@mikescudder4621 I am going to refer to wikipedia:
Horsepower (hp) is a unit of measurement of power, or the rate at which work is done, usually in reference to the output of engines or motors. There are many different standards and types of horsepower. Two common definitions used today are the mechanical horsepower (or imperial horsepower), which is about 745.7 watts and the metric horsepower, which is approximately 735.5 watts.
Keyword here is imperal horsepower.
Same thing for watt
The watt (symbol: W) is a unit of power or radiant flux. In the International System of Units (SI), it is defined as a derived unit of (in SI base units)[1][2] 1 kg⋅m2⋅s−3 or, equivalently,[3] 1 joule per second. It is used to quantify the rate of energy transfer. The watt is named after James Watt (1736-1819), an 18th-century Scottish inventor.
The SI is the metric system that I am referring to. That watt is SI the horsepower is not.[Edit] put both in same comment
@@Hailtothebreak The keyword is metric HP. You thought that the metric equivalent of HP was Kilowatt, which is understandable. I'm just pointing out that HP is both a metric and imperial unit.
@@mikescudder4621 I completely miss read your comment and I look like a fool lol. Yes you are correct the term horse power do refer to both HP and PS and yes there is almost no difference. I understood the unit horespower PS has little to no difference to KW when reading your comment hence the confusion. I owe you an apology. Comments when half asleep is a bad idea.
[Edit] One thing however the metric equivalent of HP is Kilowatt. The SI one at least. Australia uses KW for engines and metric horsepower is not officially SI (ie not officially a metric measurement).
@@Hailtothebreak No worries mate, it happens to all of us.
Wow, that was an excellent overview of the dyno. Nicely done too. One question, why would you not use an electric generator as the load and measure the power out...wait, that will be much more complex and big.
Good question! Finding an electric generator that can adsorb 15 or more hp and can spin at 8000 RPM is quite difficult.
@@robotcantina8957 :Ahh, yes 8000rpm/15hp...another fine reason to go the way you did. :) thanks for replying.
You would also need to calibrate that. The amount of power produced by the generator would be less than the amount of power delivered to it by the engine, since there are losses in converting the mechanical energy to electrical energy and they are quite substantial. By measuring torque and speed separately, you can more easily calibrate each of those independently, rather than measuring power directly which requires a known source of power.
@@reverse_engineered I'm really beginning to like the torque approach! Thanks for pointing out further difficulties with my hair brained idea. :)
How do you adjust slip between the torque arm and engine shaft?
2:21 I like how you put beavis uh uh voices
Don't forget buthead
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, Have you seen season one of this series? It is well worth watching for the humor alone😜😜😅
Kansas, just one more thing, In addition to Beavis and Buthead, this channel also has gnomes🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️
Wow. Rather brilliant!
Very good videos. Kind of hard to believe you didn't put a brace/bracket/support on that carburetor hanging off of that vibrating ass engine. Just ask anyone that's ever owned an old Harley. I think you inaccurately blamed the intake because the result you got was inevitable. Still you're doing good keep up the good work.
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Nice description of the dyno. Will the gnomes be wreaking havoc on our favorite go kart? Now.....let's talk future power options! Drum roll please......😁
Those little gnomes popped up again! Can't wait to see more mischief from them. YES to future power options.
What do you have in mind?
@@kansasrose2909 V twin. Twice the cylinders means twice the fun!
We shall see
@@robotcantina8957 We hope and pray for all things to work out. It isn't nice to toy with our emotions! 😁
@@kansasrose2909 Kansas, those little gnomes seem to have found Jimbo. 🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️🧙♂️