Makita 18v Oil Impulse Impact Driver VS The BEST 18v Makita Impact Driver
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- I finally got around to getting the 18v Makita Oil Impulse Impact Driver. So here are my thoughts on it, as well as a comparison to the 'top of the line' Makita Impact Driver
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@Tools & Stuff Audio tech here. If you want to give your audience an idea of the different soundlevels of those tools, set your mic gain to manual. Set it, so it's just shy of clipping when using the louder one of the two tools. If you now film booth tools in direct succession, people will hear the de facto difference in level (right now they can't since the camera is using an automatic level compensation, so it will turn up and down the gain constantly to match the level of the incoming sounds). Greetings from Germany!
Actually, I don't mind the sound of my noisy impact driver. it gives the wife a greater impression that i'm actually doing some work out in the shed, rather than watching the footy or the cricket wile enjoying a beer.
you and any tradesman out there... PMSL
@@wim0104 you mean you don't take a cigarette break and start screwing screws into the foundation blocks in and out for 10 minutes to seem like your busy?
The oil impact its my favourite too, and in real life the noise difference is much more significant than we can hear in the video. 👌
I was gonna say I honestly cant tell
Any signs of a version 2 yet? or are makita too busy trying to build a 40v microwave and simply don’t care about damaged ear drums.
@Tools & Stuff. Thanks for the review of that new Makita oil impulse impact driver. Very nice.
Hope you and your family stay safe and well.
I’ve had one for over a year with zero issues. It’s especially great when fastening into mental or using a step bit in electrical panels.
I have one of these and it’s great. It’s always the first impact I reach for. You really have to use it in person to understand how quiet it is - all the videos I’ve seen don’t seem to quite capture that.
oil impact makes a big difference when installing cabinets. Not as loud in the boxes.
Love the good honest Kiwi reviews, keep them up! (ex-pat tuning in from UK).
I have owned the Milwaukee version of the Soft Impact since its inception in 2016 (The Surge). I love it! It is the best tool that I own. I immediately sold my impact driver and haven't looked back. I think it hasn't taken off because these hydraulic drivers don't have the impressive specs of the traditional impact drivers do. Also, I haven't noticed any durability issues over the past 4.5 years.
Love my m12 surge. Had an m18 gen 4 standard impact driver before, but it had too much power for hvac service work.
Had mine ~2 years. Love it & will not go back to the std hammer types
TD172, it's only a few mm shorter, they adjusted the angle of the head a tiny bit, & it apparently has even less bit slip now.
I don’t think it’s significant enough to upgrade yet thanks for the video!
Hello mate quick question what would you buy m12 surge vs Makita I have the aeg stealth it’s not great on small fasteners
I believe the issue is that many people pick up a standard impact driver if they pick up an impact driver at all when power drills are sold with every kit that the average DIY person uses and the noise factor of an impulse/impact driver is substantially more so it can dissuade many people who lack confidence and skill with their tools. Many times "Large noise" from a tool means you are doing something wrong so this particular tool requires some knowledge base the average person doesn't have. I personally was looking at a new replacement for my Makita Commercial Power Drill that I have used for years on everything from putting in closets to horse fences to helping people with IKEA furniture in 10 minutes (IDK how people can't put it together), but I wanted a longer battery life and would be working regularly with 6 X 6 pressure treated wood on a larger build I had planned and I wanted to see what newer options with a longer battery life than a many year old model were available and I have found that I may keep my old Makita Drill for pilot holes and smalls jobs but I may add an Impact driver to my collection to broaden my set instead of replacing the driver I have and keep it for those smaller jobs as no one wants the noise level when I come to help them with a simple furniture build.
We also have the weight issue and as weird as this sounds, for many years heavier tools meant metal workings instead of plastic as the years went on and tools became "cheaper" and more powerful motor and tool you have so the idea that this small impact driver could do the jobs it does it a little off putting to those who have used power tools for 25+ years and change like this is hard to be open to for many, even everyday construction workers or home DIYer's who have brand loyalty like Dewalt or Milwaukee.
Planning on likely purchasing one of these for next years Barn Build for our Horses and Sheep. Outdoors I don't really care how loud it is.
I love my oil impact, it is also my go to for smaller fasteners.
I have the makita and milwaukee. Love them for different reasons. Milwaukee is stronger overall in my opinion, and the makita is definitely better for finessing things. I usually go for my milwaukee, but only because I don’t do much fine work anymore. Either way you go, you get use to them. The lower noise was the biggest reason I changed from a regular impact. I haven’t regretted it at all for what I do.
@@benfowler2127 I also have both platforms but I chose the Makita because of the Japanese made lable, that does not mean that it will last longer under the same usage, its more of a head thing I guess, that and I try not to buy Chinese made anymore if I don't have too but pretty much everything is made in China these days and not everything that is made in China is bad, I just wish they would place importance on human rights, Meng Wanzhou is being housed in a multi million dollar mansion on house arrest here in Canada while Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor are in a China jail as political pawns, that kind of stuff pisses me off.
@@benfowler2127 as I understand for the small accurate screws is the makita oil better than milka but not much powerful like surge?
@@user-fo2vr5qz2l Makita has good power, but I use my surge for everything. I have gotten use to using it. The makita just doesn’t have the power to do the nuts and bolts I work with at times. It’s my opinion anyway. It feels like it kinda quits before things are as tight as I like to make them, so I primarily use the milwaukee since it means carrying 1 impact instead of multiples. I know I can be an oddball about that too, so it might be just right for some.
Another great video! Idk why people are always complaining about your methods of testing, they seem to work, and you’ve been doing this for years. If you want my advice don’t even bother listening to the people who criticize your testing let them get pissed off, it’s your channel and you don’t even have to acknowledge them.
What would you say is better between the Makita oil pulse impact or the Milwaukee m18 fuel surge?
This video made me subscribe. I like to have a couple before I fuck around in my shop.
What’s the thing called on your purple DTD172? To put the bit on
My go-to impact is the Milwaukee M12 brushless surge oil impulse driver. From the specs, it's even quieter than this 18V makita. It's also very compact, and I've used it plenty of times when I'm driving a screw in a tight/awkward spot.
My go-to drill is my subcompact 18V Makita. It has great balance and ergonomics, and it's very compact.
I'm not a pro. I don't care if it takes me an extra 1/3 of a second to drive each screw. I prefer to use my M12 surge driver on the lowest setting that will drive my screw without struggling. I feel like it gives me better depth control to go a little slower, and I just hate noise. If I'm driving fewer than 10 screws then I won't bother with hearing protection, but when I built a deck this past summer and drove screws with my M12 surge for hours at a time, I wore hearing protection.
So I could be wrong about makita but I believe the one you have there is technically a second gen and they had an old nimh battery powered one back in the day and I know that hitachi had an old nimh one and now hikoki is releasing a new one. A big reason why these haven't gone anywhere is most people don't even really look past the torque figures before they move on and the people that do often look at the size and weight and just write them off. As far as durability I've had mine for over two years now using it right along side my xdt16 every day and love both of them. They each def have their strengths but are a perfect pair when matched up with each other in my opinion
Right? I’d love to see a the two impacts compared on a dynamometer with a torque/time graph.
Just like peak torque alone can’t tell you how fast a race car accelerates, peak torque alone can’t tell you how fast or powerful an impact driver actually is.
If such a test were performed, I suspect we’d see a traditional impact making an instantaneous burst of torque that falls to nothing almost as quickly as it hit.
The hydraulic impact would likely show a lower peak, but whatever burst of torque would last much longer, hence a similar amount of work getting done per uga-duga.
It depends not only on peak torque, but also how long torque is sustained as it’s delivered to the fastener.
Great video thanks , should film some of your jobs..........stay safe
Why can't we get corded portable band saws in nz?!?
We all do it, using the impact driver as a hammer. I’m with AvE in that why don’t they just build a tool that you can actually use as a hammer? Just put a metal plate on the back or something.
You're not thinking about the big picture. The profit from the cheap rubber over molded plastic for 12$ +s&h is all lost the second you make a more durable product.
@@TheVdog12 I don't think it's technically rubber, or plastic... or cheap. I mean, you drive a car over these things and they won't crack
@@histguy101 the sarcasm is lost on you friend.
Please give me your opinion on the 171 (made in China) vs 148 (made in Japan). I'm looking for reliability and longevity, not so much the latest tech in them. Thanks.
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Hey mate, can you try the bang good 125mm circular saw? Or even get your hands on the genuine makita 125mm saw from japan. Hikoki have one in Australia and it's bloody great.
It's kinda on my list. Although getting 125mm saw blades here is a tricky one. Might try and get the XGT one. I have the 185mm BG saw coming. How is the chilli bin going?
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL yea the hikoki rep told me to just order blades online.
How do you order tools from japan?
And the chillibin is great! Its been at home running on ac for 5 weeks now. Will run it on batteries when I use my tinny!
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Makita brushless multitool is in australia, the reps are testing it now 👌
Is the makita logo white plastic on the oil impulse like on the 171/172?
No.
I do residential hvac and always start early in the morning at tenants places and want a quieter drill any recommendations, I don’t mind prices
Drill or impact driver? Drills are all pretty similar and aren't very loud, it's the drilling that's loud.
Hah, I didn't know the word "dear" was used to say the same as "expensive". This goes pretty well to the Dutch word "duur". And even more to the West-Flemish pronunciation of it, where we pronounce the "uu" sound mostly as "ea".
8:03 Who doesn't?!
Well, me I guess. Mine's old.
But have been doing so since it was new. So I can attest to it apparently being made for it..
Chur! Good info , humour is good too
I thought about purchasing the oil one but couldn't justify the price of it. i can buy 2 good quality brushless makita impacts and still have change compared to the oil impact
and i don't think the noise difference etc is enough for the price difference
93 dB vs 87 dB so 1 TD171 vs 4 DTS141. Anyway, in France, from 80 dB of noise exposure, Wearing Hearing Protection is strongly recommended. *And from 85 dB, it is obligatory.*
Vibration Rate is much more interesting 13.5 m/s² vs 7 m/s² 😍
What?
@@____MC____ What?
@@RegisG. you'll have to talk into my good ear
Are you planning on making a video on the makita td172d?
Yes
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL nice I'll hold of the purchase till then
When will you have the new impact? Be interesting to see what’s changed
Not sure. I don't think much has changed power-wise. I think they have just brought the control panel and features in line with the 40v XGT model.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I only just bought the 171 so the less improvement the better for me 😂, my wish list is a makpac designed radio, that would be a win in my book
It will not be worth upgrading from the 171 to the 172 I wouldn't think. Unless of course you have an impact driver fetish like I do.
Would a drill/driver not work for things like this? I’m a noob so I have no idea. Just don’t know why we need an impact?
Impact has less torque on your arm
Oh I see. Never used any of the big fasteners yet. Figured I could turn it in slower with the variable trigger. I just bought a new Milwaukee kit. Appreciate the reply.
Can definitively see this to be worth the price for certain applications like assembly work or driving small screws all day.
Seems underpowered for stuff like lag bolts or concrete anchors.
I I like this model 🔥🔥🔥
I have an 18v milwaukee surge that's pretty quiet too. Someday looking forward to get a td171...
The 172 is out now th-cam.com/video/IhPQqWyKrNA/w-d-xo.html
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL thanks I watched that video of yours but I'm hesitant about td172's heating issue, on the other hand its new trigger is a good feature too. Enjoying your channel, keep up the good work!
People get too hung up on specs. I have the M12 Surge. Rated 400in lbs. I swear that thing will run right with any other driver I have on most things, and way more satisfying to use, and so quiet. Triple Hammer, dcf850, XTR, xdt16...surge provides the precision I want in 1, and will pull lugnuts in 3. I don't ask it to do that, but it will. The range is insane. Love it. My favorite tool!
Will they go to 21700 cells?
Xgt 4ah and 5ah batteries are.
@@kizzjd9578 but not the 18v LXT batteries available for the Oil Impulse drivers, right?
The only Makita battery with 21700 cells is the 40v 4Ah. The 40v 5Ah is 18650. All 18v are 18650
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL is the 40v max 5ah actually 18650 cells? That would mean there's 20 cells in there
Yep 20 cells.
Ten bucks on 50%!
Euhm, what's 50% in decibels again? Every 3 dB is double, right? So 3 dB less and I win?? I believe this is also where that "log" button comes in..
Sod it, just tell me it's noticeable and I'll buy one!
if testing Nm you need to tighten nuts with torque wrench and see which is capable to undo,
As you stated at the beginning 180Nm and other 40 Nm seeing which one puts them in faster or driving wall bolts into a wall is not showing Nm their true scale,
The oil impact you showing in the video is I believe is a second gen. As far as I know, AEG BSS18OP is a first generation oil impact. Makita and Milwaukee both are second gen. Interestingly, the first generation oil impact are bigger and heavier but more quiet comparing to second gen. At least this was the case for the ones I did use.
Its because they cost a lot...they are good....to damn expensive
My camera is broken, see a purple makita...
You will see double in this one th-cam.com/video/uXi1JxSUEXc/w-d-xo.html
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL very nice. In germany i only see the green/blue, black and the pink one. The purple never 😅
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Every 10 decibels is 10x so 30 decibels is actually 1000x. Roughly 3 dB is about 2x
Only of you start at 0. In my example I started at 10.
Milwaukee would "of" been way more oily dude. 😉
Certainly more surgey
How'd you know my real name was Sergey?
why use earmuffs with an impact driver?
they aren't that loud....
So your hearing's already stuffed.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL doubt it
My tinnitus actually was worse when I was little
but I'm questioning if what I'm hearing now actually is tinnitus because my phone picks up something in the 20khz range
it's faint, but it's there(I moved to the city just a few years ago)
All the exposed white plastic on the front looks cheap like a toy. Milwaukee Surge looks much more solid.
2 billion dollars!!!! Mwahhhahah
I think the females will prefer the standard purple one.
It vibrates more and bangs harder :)