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Primož Roglič GOES DOWN (Again...)

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  • @Zek_Ken
    @Zek_Ken 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Between the abandons, crashes & knuckleheads in the sprint, this stage was just dreadful. The only saving grace is that Girmay is a stand up guy who just radiates positivity. I can't stay mad.

  • @autobus45
    @autobus45 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I always knew Chris was being held back on NBC. If I can't watch the TDF on TV this is the next best show. Thanks Chris for the great highlight show!!

  • @Sportsloverandrew
    @Sportsloverandrew 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

    I know his positioning wasnt great but damn the chaos always finds him in the tdf. A fan with a sign. A moto hitting a bail on the road. A guy crashing on the otherside of the road with a concrete divider and goes right into Rogs side of the road. Ut just always finds him.

    • @tacodiegoburrito9926
      @tacodiegoburrito9926 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      Agreed. Roglic can be blamed for a lot of his crashes but man, his bad luck in the tour is unreal.

    • @yelapa999
      @yelapa999 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Bad luck might improve a scosh if he rode more towards the front.

  • @johnauvil9664
    @johnauvil9664 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +93

    I look forward to your stage review more than any other channel.

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      Thanks John. I like to find the details that everyone else misses, throw in some coaching, a little story time here and there, and analyze what went wrong and what went right during the stage. Never hurts to call out a couple knuckleheads along the way, or the brilliant ones. 😜👊🦋

    • @MrTbayles2
      @MrTbayles2 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ChrisHornerCyclingI am upset to see Roglic go down today. Throughout the tour I have rarely seen any of his team mates, what are they doing all day? Also, why is Redbull Bora Hansgrohe not at the front? Is it because they are not as strong and cant stay up there? Or that they dont need to be because they are lower on classification?

    • @user-en9qd5nx8w
      @user-en9qd5nx8w 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I truly miss Chris being on the NBC show to give his outstanding analysis of all aspects of cycle racing. I loved when he and Christian were on the show together and would often differ in opinion, both giving excellent takes on how they see things. I used to always look forward to those pre and post race segments. Alas Chris moved on and Christian went motorcycling. I am however very happy however to be able to tune into the Butterfly Effect and get Chris's fantastic post race break downs. Thank you as always Chris.

    • @scherzo0o
      @scherzo0o 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ChrisHornerCycling My son is into cycling, both MTB and road. I'm a chesterfieldian, and your channel is a brilliant resource for me to understand what he is going through, in his road races.

    • @ExplorinDoranRBrown
      @ExplorinDoranRBrown 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I enjoy Chris’ stories! And especially his experience as a rider and the insights that brings!
      Also his stage summaries are getting funnier and funnier!❤❤❤

  • @keyboard_g
    @keyboard_g 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +73

    Wout has to be so frustrated getting cut off day after day.

    • @jaysondulay5968
      @jaysondulay5968 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      ya, and even though the ones who are cutting him are being relegated... its still not enough coz theyre impending wout's chance to win the stage, he was so close on this stage

    • @Dieterdde
      @Dieterdde 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Yea I think he would have won. Quite amazing given the fall he took the day before.

    • @huwleonard9261
      @huwleonard9261 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Slut needs to change his taktik and especially his chice of line. Always the fight against the barriers. Not much room there and dangerous for him.

    • @S0ulinth3machin3
      @S0ulinth3machin3 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      that's sprinting. Sometimes things go your way and sometimes they don't. Doubtful that Wout is getting too frustrated, he knows it's part of the game.

    • @MrLeovdmeer
      @MrLeovdmeer 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He was just in a bad position

  • @savagepro9060
    @savagepro9060 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    Biniam . . . Looking nice in green and will be Green in Nice

    • @J-cz7yv
      @J-cz7yv 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Bot

    • @thart6103
      @thart6103 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It’s going to get WILD in the live chat when that happens!

    • @user-fb3yf2xb2z
      @user-fb3yf2xb2z 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I see what you did there....nice.....

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yep. 👊🦋

    • @toshmarley72
      @toshmarley72 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Bini movement in full force. Very talented .

  • @dmoore4520
    @dmoore4520 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    Man Chris, we're getting a superstar here with Biniam Girmay!!!! Love to see it from the young guy!!!! Incredibly talented, powerful, fast, and great in interviews. Has it all.

    • @nt78stonewobble
      @nt78stonewobble 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      He's kicking ass. :D And as far as I can see a super likeable guy as well.

  • @steverowley1869
    @steverowley1869 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I'm a Brit and have a choice of Eurosport and ITV coverage; both have ex-pros on their commentary teams and both do a decent, if sometimes over hysterical, job. I know they are working in real time and you have the benefit of looking back. Having said that I think your analysis, insight, understanding and delivery are second to none.
    Chapeau 🎩 and if I'm ever in Oregon there will be a drink waiting for you at the bar, cheers 🍻
    Thank you.

  • @papajustus
    @papajustus 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So sorry for Primos Roglic! That was not his fault. I hope he will recover soon and find back to old strength and win in the upcoming races. Keep my fingers crossed for one of the best contemporary pro riders. I would have loved to see him battling for the podium till the end this year.

  • @johnwalsh9285
    @johnwalsh9285 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    Thank you Chris and Garrett for all your time and work on the show

    • @mattmuyres7720
      @mattmuyres7720 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do you like his hand gyrations ?

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      John 👊🦋🦋👊👊

  • @dropatrain
    @dropatrain 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Hoping Roglic pulls a Landis this weekend feel bad for the man!

    • @makafuniruni
      @makafuniruni 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Lets hope he doesn't😆

  • @TedDagnese
    @TedDagnese 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    The number 2 rule on the butterfly effect: true Chesterfieldians never comment before having watched the entire video.
    And for GC interest, the mountain stages can’t come soon enough.

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Unless you are first to comment. 😂🦋🛋️👊🦋👊

  • @slayer6936
    @slayer6936 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    1 place in the sprint. I loved seeing Jasper getting smoked again by B.G. the strongest sprinter in the tour this year so far. Prizmo was so unlucky today. But he should have been up front. Great take on today's stage Chris. 🤜🤛👍

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thanks Slayer 👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋

    • @epincion
      @epincion 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Bini is not the strongest sprinter in the peloton but by far and away this year he is the luckiest.
      As Napoleon Bonaparte once remarked he looked for a general who was not only a competent fighter but also a lucky fighter.

    • @S0ulinth3machin3
      @S0ulinth3machin3 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@epincion naw, he's winning the slightly uphill sprints which suit him and still scoring well (although not winning) on the flat run ins which suit other sprinters (Phillipsen). It's not an accident. A sprinter doesn't just go out and race and get lucky and win, he/she has to make it happen.

  • @adepanko1289
    @adepanko1289 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    It's tough being a Roglic fan

    • @TheFlyingDogFish
      @TheFlyingDogFish 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      No, it's easy, barely an inconvenience.

    • @Lapsontheboy
      @Lapsontheboy 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheFlyingDogFish Vuelta is hes,srcasm mouch-ey

    • @ptbot3294
      @ptbot3294 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@TheFlyingDogFishoh thats tight!

  • @wildly_heather
    @wildly_heather 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Wout needs to stop taking the lane right next to the barriers! :)

  • @yohannesaradom8656
    @yohannesaradom8656 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Dear Chris,
    This reporting is just simply the best. I wish you are on Television in USA or UK.

  • @milliongebrehiwet6949
    @milliongebrehiwet6949 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    We love you Chris from Eritrea

  • @gobears6487
    @gobears6487 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Excellent job on today's arrows, Garrett! 👍🦋👊 Great analysis Chris. Of course 😊

  • @scherzo0o
    @scherzo0o 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Your number one Chesterfieldian here: how come that you didn't comment on Cavendish's relegation?
    Keep on! The first thing I'm watching after watching the stage is you and Lanterne Rouge...

  • @swisstopia
    @swisstopia 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Rule number one in bicycle racing: Keep the rubber side down. 🦋👊🇨🇭

  • @user-jk8wn5rl8x
    @user-jk8wn5rl8x 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    PR got screwed, that rider who made a huge mistake and curbed it. Blew it , and took out roglich, sucks

  • @xander0901
    @xander0901 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I don’t 100% blame this one on Primoz, but he was once again positioned the furthest back of the big 4 GC contenders. I’m not going to say that he was guaranteed to avoid crashing if he was positioned closer to the front, but it’s certainly safe to say that he could have improved his chances significantly.

    • @cartermoth6447
      @cartermoth6447 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The front row was taken by GC teams and sprinter teams. Rog didn't have the rouleurs to position him in that lot without causing more friction.

    • @xander0901
      @xander0901 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cartermoth6447Roglic had teammates in the first 3 rows, and video footage shows them looking around for him before the crash. Roglic does this all the time. He believes it is better to race from at least 5-7 rows back so he can see how people attack in front of him.

  • @angelamacchi977
    @angelamacchi977 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Roglic! 😢❤

  • @iacobogallus2110
    @iacobogallus2110 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    RBH did not do their job...last week they were well on the front of the peloton...so no crash for Primož...but yesterday they were too behind.
    I am reall upset because of another crash 😢😢😢

  • @onemad.targaryen.rages.respect
    @onemad.targaryen.rages.respect 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Bini vidi Vici that’s 3🙆🏻‍♂️

  • @Gowalkabout
    @Gowalkabout 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watching professional sprinters move through the peloton, fighting for position for the sprint, is like watching a work of art in motion.

  • @charlesmcclellan9970
    @charlesmcclellan9970 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thank you for the great analysis!!

  • @MikeCappiello
    @MikeCappiello 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Excellent coverage again... thanks Chris. I still don't understand why these lead out riders do not have some kind of rear view mirror.

  • @fatifleur4428
    @fatifleur4428 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Thank you chris from morroco

  • @01FozzyS
    @01FozzyS 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Amazing Bini. That was a pretty bad crash with that road furniture involved. Horrible route planning !

  • @ahwinds9256
    @ahwinds9256 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    The outcome would have been different if Wout Van Aert didn’t get blocked.

    • @petertheore668
      @petertheore668 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      great observation . Also if Bini had not competed or if the Ichthyostega had never crawled out of the seas, or had a stadium-sized meteor struck planet earth yesterday things would have gone differently

    • @simoncbr900rr
      @simoncbr900rr 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂😂

  • @silentowlscribe
    @silentowlscribe 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Roglic just keeps on falling down. Not his own doing, but every time that you fall down, you just anticipate falling down in the next instance like this.

  • @jerrycornelius4534
    @jerrycornelius4534 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Arrow work is 🔥as usual Garrett!

  • @gaspi91
    @gaspi91 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Roglič was holding nicely, was really sad when I saw he fell.
    Maybe he can go on vuelta and win there 🤞

    • @joebriggs8422
      @joebriggs8422 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      👍Primož vs Sepp

    • @gaspi91
      @gaspi91 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@joebriggs8422that would be epic

    • @Lapsontheboy
      @Lapsontheboy 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joebriggs8422 Epic stuff,but Rogla takes it

  • @jeiyo660
    @jeiyo660 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I know it's been quite a lot since, but based on Vingegaard's performance; it seems he heard your video about lunge perforation recovery. Great video that was!

  • @timliscum2861
    @timliscum2861 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Abrahanson should do the Olympics or Worlds, the kid is a Beast

    • @carlbonthuys3550
      @carlbonthuys3550 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      World tour teams will be fighting to sign him up

    • @ExplorinDoranRBrown
      @ExplorinDoranRBrown 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Kind of sad no one has really been challenging him , but maybe that’s because he’s so good. I loved how he has just been so selfish and was gobbling up all the points, sprint and KOM! lol

    • @mulinanr
      @mulinanr 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What is there to challenge? Almost nobody is after the KOM jersey and the sprint points. Plus while it is somewhat exciting to see him have a go, I am not sure how significant it is in terms of getting contracts? He is going off to breakaways that are doomed to be caught and in the high mountains he is understandably dropped. I don't see him as any better than any other guy in the peloton in terms of capability but he is having fun :)

    • @2730kasper
      @2730kasper 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's Abrahamsen.

    • @swissbiggy
      @swissbiggy 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Have you seen the profiles of the Olympics and Worlds this year ?? With all respect for what Abrahamsen does this Tour, but these parcourses are not made for him... The Olympics will be won by a Alaphilippe, van der Poel kind of guy and the Worlds by a pure climber..... Abrahamsen does grab with both hands the free publicity he can get in stages where nobody else does even want to go in the breakaway, let's not pretend that he's all of the sudden become a world class rider... He spends energy where others (Not even the smallest participating teams) don't want to waste their breath....
      I love it tbh.... But we all know that he will gain shit from it... The polka dot jersey will in the end be won by a pure climber, and Abrahamsen will not even be in the top five of that ranking... All the big mountains still have to come, and on a number of them the same amount of points can be won, that Abrahamsen did earn in twelve days. Neither (Although I do hope that he can prove me wrong) is he gonna win a stage.....
      Thus the only thing he does is grabbing points that nobody cares about anyway. And let me say again that I love it, we need more guys like him !!
      But bringing a 80 kilo guy (Abrahamsen) to the Olympics for Norway, while they have riders that are better suited for that kind of parcours.... 🤔 And since Norway can take only two guys to the Olympic road race (Waerenskjold and Johannessen probably) there is no room for Abrahamsen.... But we'll see..... Maybe that they will give him a selection for the Worlds, but that title is going to the pure climbers/puncheurs. With this and next season we will have two World Championships that are tailor made for the climbers. Certainly next year when we will have almost 6 thousand meter of elevation at the first World Championship ever in Africa. (This years edition is in Switzerland, environment Zürich where we used to have a great classic in the past. The Zürich Metzgete.. A classic that was always won by climbers or super, super strong puncheurs like Bettini, Di Luca etc etc etc. )

  • @mikeoc217
    @mikeoc217 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I feel horrible for Primos he's a great cyclist. That Booby Trap left in the middle of the road is inexcusable! How could they not at least stick saw horses with arrows up or something. Totally unnecessary loss of a great cyclist. It was getting epic in the mountains. This one's gotta be a heart breaker for Primos.. Give the race director responsible the boot! 😡🚵🏽‍♀️🇸🇮💯🇨🇵

  • @matthewstrauts5427
    @matthewstrauts5427 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Chris, have you ever seen a top tier rider crash as much as Primoz? And moreso, crashes that take him out while contending in a grand tour? Love your show here.

  • @stephenmagee3766
    @stephenmagee3766 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I don't think Red Bull- Boro were going all out to bring Rog back. He looked like he was limping in.

    • @jernejp7579
      @jernejp7579 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Something was not right there, they just rode him in. 😢

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yep. I agree with you 100%. I meant to go back to the Rogic topic later and adjust what I said but then I forgot to. Certainly Bora wasn’t blowing the team up or they would have been losing riders all the way into the finish. Good eyes and ears. 👂 👀 👊🦋

    • @mariusmanoiu2228
      @mariusmanoiu2228 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think he is done he will abandon and focus on Vuelta

  • @epincion
    @epincion 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks Chris for the forensic review of the last 3 km. It is great that the race commissars relegated Arnaud Demare - he left his racing line and pushed WVA into the boards.
    Up to that point WVA had ridden a great race and was well positioned to have a realistic punt at winning. Bini’s win was almost all due to the fact that WVA had to slow and move to reset his run
    Don’t rule out a final podium from Roglic as there are many big mountain climbs ahead where times can change by many minutes

    • @Foxtrottangoabc
      @Foxtrottangoabc 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes he was completely boxed in by bollards and rider yet only half a bike behind at the finish . Maybe a stage 13 for him today

  • @charlestoddsullivanforpres6628
    @charlestoddsullivanforpres6628 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Looking for updates to see if Roglic abandons. He is cursed at the TDF.

    • @Sportsloverandrew
      @Sportsloverandrew 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      At this point I totally agree. People talk about bike handling and all that. But He's got 4 GT's in his bag plus a bunch of 1 weekers. Dude has terrible luck in this race.

    • @mariusmanoiu2228
      @mariusmanoiu2228 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@Sportsloverandrewa bunch?that is a huge understatement The guy is the king of 1 week races only lost when he fell otherwise he even beat Pogi multiple time in races like Dauphinee or Paris Nice

  • @johndidier7849
    @johndidier7849 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Saw You take the San Francisco Gran Prix with Saturn.....You busted them up that day‼️

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      That was a really good day. When we left the team meeting in the morning at our hotel after the all the riders walked out but me. I look at our team manager and he said we got to win. I said, no one can guarantee the win but, I guarantee you that I’m going to put on show today. 😜😂👊🦋

    • @maryhallisey1016
      @maryhallisey1016 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I was there too! I got to ride on back of moto for one circuit up Fillmore scared the crap out of me. Seems like half the field didn't finish. Great day!

    • @johndidier7849
      @johndidier7849 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@maryhallisey1016 Armstrong only took a couple laps then dropped out

  • @hynekjanousek7887
    @hynekjanousek7887 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Bora was not fully chasing. They tried but Roglic lost the wheel immediatelly. They had to slow down to go as fast as he could go. The peloton did not go that crazy fast for a moment and Bora was still loosing time. Roglic was shaken more than it seemed from the pictures.

  • @onemad.targaryen.rages.respect
    @onemad.targaryen.rages.respect 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    Terrible road furniture, communication, warning ⚠️ signs, on the route this year. Poorly organized and dangerous.

    • @DDai-qd8uk
      @DDai-qd8uk 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Obstacles. Such a stupid term road furniture.

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Those little center curbs are seriously the worst of all of them. You never predict they are coming because they uncommon on most roads and you can’t see them at all. 😱☠️🦋⚰️🦋

    • @LABoyko
      @LABoyko 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It's the perfect term actually.

    • @epincion
      @epincion 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s always a compromise on the issue of road furniture. To move all of it and then replace all of it is not feasible and risks disrupting public support for the race. In this instance it should have been much better signed and the gaps between the blocks of road furniture seamlessly filled in with temporary barriers so that no rider can ever be in that space.

  • @vivekrbs
    @vivekrbs 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Awesome review as always. Very disappointed for Roglic. I was hoping he will have one good day in the mountains to make the race interesting. Not sure if he will even continue. The TDF folks need to do better with these obstacles.

  • @guillermoavendanogarcia3101
    @guillermoavendanogarcia3101 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Sad day for every fan, especially for Primoz's fans like me. The race was very much on :(:(:(:(

  • @patrickwong4824
    @patrickwong4824 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Best damn coverage of this, pardon my French, cluster fuck of a sprint. No wonder Démare and Cav get relegated. Wout got screwed out of the win but that sprinting.
    As for the Roglic crash, Bora Red Bull as a team should be riding closer to the front.

    • @LABoyko
      @LABoyko 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @patrickwong4824. HEY, watch your language.

    • @joebriggs8422
      @joebriggs8422 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      All these years, unbeknownst to me, I've been speaking some French 😉

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I couldn’t believe that Roglic never had his big boys on the front. Today was the day for them to at the front during this final. Crazy. 🤔🦋😱

    • @patrickwong4824
      @patrickwong4824 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LABoykoone little f-word🙄. If you watch other cycling podcast the f-word is constantly used.

  • @user-fb3yf2xb2z
    @user-fb3yf2xb2z 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Is it that he's subconsciously repeatedly acting out his PTSD from the downhill ski crash, or is it because he didn't get chance to learn race-craft when it's easiest to learn i.e. when we was young still and still growing up.... two possibilities or a bit of both. such a great athlete, an unfortunate achilles heel (and painful!). Hope he makes it to Nice. Hopefully in top 10.

    • @taxi9554
      @taxi9554 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think the first….learning it when young

  • @jonjust7796
    @jonjust7796 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I was sitting in the Chesterfield being a bit of a knucklehead and thougt to myself: It would be a shame if GC is decided by Covid.

  • @danglybit1
    @danglybit1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Poor Roga ...

  • @robertcheng7735
    @robertcheng7735 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    If either Almeida, Yates or Ayuso attacked yesterday wouldn't that break butterfly effect rule number 1 of never abandoning your leader?

    • @erichgerber251
      @erichgerber251 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Right, if Pogi had gone all the way, the review would have looked differently…

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      😜 Every rule as I have said before can be broken. If they know when to break it, and exactly how to break. If they don’t know, then it’s much easier to just not break it and bring Pogi into the finish to grab bonus seconds and win the stage. But remember uAE were already officially breaking the #1 rule when Pogi attacked and his teammates still had more left. So they broke rule #1 anyways, UAE just didn’t break it correctly. 😂🤔🦋👊😂😂😂😂😂😂#1🦋

    • @erichgerber251
      @erichgerber251 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ChrisHornerCycling How do you know before you make a knucklehead move? They were trying to decide the Tour right there and then. I applaud them for trying.

    • @carlbonthuys3550
      @carlbonthuys3550 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@erichgerber251medium mountains stage won't be the place to decide the tour

  • @krist370
    @krist370 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    From all the riders, they allways hit Roglič😢. It looks like his tour de france bad luck just continues😢

  • @sicknorenson
    @sicknorenson 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    How does Cav get so low when he sprints? It’s insane, his chin is almost on the bars!

  • @ZENmud
    @ZENmud 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Eric Heiden was the World Champion Speed Skater of the 1980s, who quixotically was jinxed in several consecutive Winter Olympics, falling in every event, until his 3rd or fourth Olys.
    Primoz is to the TdF as Eric was to the Olympics. (sadly)😢

  • @ericvonhellens8822
    @ericvonhellens8822 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Top 10
    Thanks for talking about how UAE could've riden yesterday.
    Friday will be a day for the break racing into Pau. Just my 2 cents.

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      After the sprint teams are losing riders left and right it just maybe a break away stage. Little bumpy out there for stage 13. It will take some organization if the sprinter teams want to control the peloton all day and some serious attacking to break the sprint trains. 🚂 👊🦋🔥

  • @CapeCodPhilip
    @CapeCodPhilip 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Cavendish 5th! Nope. He got relegated for his crazy moves in the final straight.

  • @gobears6487
    @gobears6487 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    At last yay!🎉

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bam 💥🧸🦋🦋👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋

    • @thart6103
      @thart6103 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      💥 💥 get on this podium! 🙋🏻‍♀️

  • @user-lb2xv4ci6n
    @user-lb2xv4ci6n 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Who is here after roglic has left the tour

  • @Kahscho
    @Kahscho 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I thought there was an unwritten rule about holding the peloton to a pace where riders can catch up after a crash? I remember Movistar being criticized for attacking after Roglic crashed in the Vuelta a few years back. It’s a shame that the peloton didn’t give the riders impacted by the crash the same courtesy today.
    I always viewed Roglic as a longshot for GC, but it is a shame to see any GC contender lose time this way.

    • @oscarw1060
      @oscarw1060 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't think it mattered in this instance, Roglic looked really bad and could barely hold his team's wheel. Visma did ride very hard but in their defence if they didn't someone else would and they would just lose their position.

    • @wildly_heather
      @wildly_heather 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It’s really only for the yellow jersey that they do that. BUT, it’s different when it is so close to the end and it’s a sprint stage -- the teams are already starting getting ready for their sprints. VLAB was riding for Wout to with the stage at that point.

    • @scherzo0o
      @scherzo0o 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      not when you're in the last 5km of a sprint finish... when it's mid-stage, like previously, when Pogy crashed, yes!

    • @sasopalma4993
      @sasopalma4993 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm a big Roglic's fan, but unfortunately everything was ok.
      They actually didn't push as much for first few kilometers and Roglic stayed at around 1:15 for a while.
      If Roglic was fine, he'd get close or in the peloton during this time, but it was seen he slowed down his team cause he couldn't keep the pace up.
      At around 7km to go the race just blew up and it is all good. There is no way for peloton to completely wait for 4th in the GC, I think even yellow jersey wouldn't be wait for in the same position.

  • @joehopfield
    @joehopfield 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    How'd you leave out Cav's triple deserved relegation? Teunissen & Girmay had to dodge his unclipped(!) Bahrain victim (had to unclip!), then C tried to take out Binny, then went for Coquard. Relegation isn't enough.

  • @stroso83
    @stroso83 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Bini makes that jersey look gooooood.

    • @loveelroi4453
      @loveelroi4453 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😅😅💚💚💚💃💃💃💃🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷

  • @johndoiron9615
    @johndoiron9615 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I hate to say it because I love Roglic, but I think he should pull out of the tour so he can focus on the Olympics. He's not going to make the podium now, and even stage wins will be very difficult to come by even with good form.

    • @nakawesiabia6311
      @nakawesiabia6311 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Olympics ooh please he isn’t even selected and if he stays in tour he has a chance to beat remco and almeida

    • @Foxtrottangoabc
      @Foxtrottangoabc 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe he should stay in tdf to maintain fitness and confidence but just not challenge for GC . Perhaps just sit back now and maybe challenge for a stage win when he's 10 minutes down on gc or something

    • @Lapsontheboy
      @Lapsontheboy 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@nakawesiabia6311 Rogla is out of tour+he sad that we will see about olympics meaning he was selected

    • @johndoiron9615
      @johndoiron9615 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nakawesiabia6311He dropped out.

    • @johndoiron9615
      @johndoiron9615 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@FoxtrottangoabcHe dropped out.

  • @sldulin
    @sldulin 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Team Visma crash-a-bike is doing an heroic job of keeping good team cohesion in spite of all the 'bad luck'. My pre-race predictions in terms of individual riders was way off but my assessment of the team collective is proving right- Team Visma works well collectively, UAE is slightly dysfunctional with too many chefs in the kitchen or too many chiefs, not enough Indians, whatever metaphor you want to use... Bora is good team for Roglic on paper but too thin, and Soudal is kind of hopeless, but I guess when you have balls the size of RE, who needs a team? At any rate there is enough strength in that UAE squad, and enough strength in TP that they can overcome a dysfunctional team dynamic. This year.

  • @BienvenidoEspinal
    @BienvenidoEspinal 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Finally looked up what a Chesterfield looks like, gonna have to upgrade 😂😂

  • @elizabethhunter5182
    @elizabethhunter5182 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great breakdown of the race. Looking for a little more love for IPT as they have been consistently up in top 10 and even top 5 in many stages

  • @charliedillon1400
    @charliedillon1400 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Anyone else think Roglic may have some level of CTE from so many crashes, not to mention his skiing career before cycling? He seems punch drunk sometimes. They used to say his late start to the sport gave him bike handling challlenges, but it's been years now. If it was football, they'd be doing serious protocols by now, I think.

    • @LABoyko
      @LABoyko 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @charliedillon1400. You guys are killing Primoz. The crash yesterday occurred on a wet, narrow road with sharp turns; the crash today occurred when another rider crashed in front of him.
      He's going to be alright and a podium finish, while unlikely, is still possible.

    • @charliedillon1400
      @charliedillon1400 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LABoyko He didn't start today. Hope he's okay.

  • @zerog4261
    @zerog4261 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ive started watching Lance' channel as well this tour.
    More of a boys chewing the fat about the race but quite enjoyable.
    You get a good few insights from him, George Hincapie and Bradly Wiggens also just now.

  • @baffinsansterre
    @baffinsansterre 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    A legend is born.

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🦋🇪🇷👊

    • @loveelroi4453
      @loveelroi4453 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ChrisHornerCyclingyessss 💚💚💚💚💃💃💃💃💃🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷

  • @onemad.targaryen.rages.respect
    @onemad.targaryen.rages.respect 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    WVA and primoz just so unlucky so far this tour. They look good but crashes and pushed into fences.

  • @torontocycling
    @torontocycling 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hey Chris. Great video but I was hoping for more analysis over commentary, especially with Primoz crashing and the GC battle reshaped. Maybe an added feature to the future videos? Thanks

  • @mylittlepitbull3143
    @mylittlepitbull3143 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I lined up for a criterium in super week one year. It was like a 60 mile criterium.
    Anyway at the starting line I was talking to this one guy and it was pretty friendly and the race went on.
    In the middle of the race I saw him go down hard.
    Felt kind of bad, but it happens.
    Super week was the month of racing with two races a day and you could race all over Wisconsin.
    So I saw this guy the next day, at the start line, and he was all cut up and we were talking and I was saying wow dude you went down that's too bad because he had his bandages.
    Well, he crashes again.
    The third day he rolls up to me at the start line he's like hey what's going on and I just moved to the other side of the peloton because I didn't want to be next to him.
    Sure enough he crashed again and again. Four times he had crashes.
    I didn't crash much in my bike racing career because I was very good at not crashing.
    But some guys just can't stay off the ground.
    I watch primos lead the peloton around a corner and he just rode right off the course into that dirt patch where he went down couple days ago.
    Damn buddy keep it the rubber side down.

    • @joebriggs8422
      @joebriggs8422 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      "moved to the other side of the peloton" 👍smart move

    • @draconianTL
      @draconianTL 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Haha, I have a similar story about a guy who comes to our training rides. He’s the only guy I know to crash while on a hill climb and if I ever find myself on his wheel, I’ll move out. Stay well away! Can’t tell if it’s his bike/tire setup, handling, or spatial awareness because he’s been cycling for years and is very fast rider just a complete liability.

    • @LABoyko
      @LABoyko 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @draconianTL. Pretty sure Lance crashed on a climb in the TDF.

    • @mylittlepitbull3143
      @mylittlepitbull3143 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LABoyko yeah everybody does crash at some point or another. And you just made me remember my friend Jeff Wyatt. He was a crashing machine. He was going to quit bike racing and then he won the state criterium championship in Utah.
      A lot of category 1's in that state.

    • @mylittlepitbull3143
      @mylittlepitbull3143 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joebriggs8422 Thanks for reading my story. I know it was long. I remember it like yesterday and it was about 35 years ago.

  • @selfreliance8999
    @selfreliance8999 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bini is a beast. Probably the best sprinter right now.

    • @loveelroi4453
      @loveelroi4453 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree 🇪🇷🇪🇷💃💃💃💚💚💚💚

  • @userfromtheuk8648
    @userfromtheuk8648 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Chirs ❤ 🚴

  • @nzmarty
    @nzmarty 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I see Cav also relegated for that crazy sweep move.

  • @jmhilgers
    @jmhilgers 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hopefully, Laporte can give Van Aert a solid lead out tomorrow.

  • @michaelbergfeld8751
    @michaelbergfeld8751 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Roglič didn't fall, he was standing in between usual inactivity.

  • @satyrcreekergang4985
    @satyrcreekergang4985 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The Danish riders need some Luck from now on. 50% of the Danish riders are gone. 25% of them today. 😢 Casper P. Mads P. Mørkøv, Søren K.A. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
    Stay safe 🤘🇺🇲🇩🇰🤘

    • @LABoyko
      @LABoyko 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @satycreekergang4985. "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark." -- Bill Shakespeare.

  • @simoncbr900rr
    @simoncbr900rr 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Chris,
    This is the first time i have heard someone say Jonas has come into Tour fully rested (yes he had a crash but that also means he had lots of rest)
    Nobody is saying Pogi may be getting tired because he did the Giro.
    As far as i'm concerned winning the Giro/Tour is harder than coming back from his crash.

  • @reflectionsdetail
    @reflectionsdetail 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nura Fig.......Burkę Swindlehurst, Ron Schmeer.....

  • @FrankDeleo-ve5uy
    @FrankDeleo-ve5uy 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Chris, given the drab pre-stage show on Peacock, were you invited to be part of the show or not? When you were part of the show in the past, it was far more informative and entertaining! Hell, your commentary as part of the live stage commentary would make a dramatic improvement. Keep up the good work with your TH-cam Videos. Top notch content!

  • @dickieblench5001
    @dickieblench5001 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm beginning to think Rogla is addicted to liniment oil

  • @captainclavicle
    @captainclavicle 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'll be keen to see some other footage or stills, but based on a brief highlight video i watched earlier and now Chris' analysis, my take is that Demare was hard done by in being relegated. To me, at the point he and Wout were both launching, it looks like the barrier is out slightly further into the road than the preceding barriers. I'm not sure that Demare really came across as far as it might seem.

    • @wildly_heather
      @wildly_heather 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I thought it was blatantly obvious from the overhead shots. He did exactly what Jasper did when Jasper got relegated; Wout had plenty of room, and then he didn’t and had to stop pedaling as Demare cut him off.

  • @wm.b.bowman2634
    @wm.b.bowman2634 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    1994 or 1995 St. Valentine’s Day Massacre crit you won by lapping the field…no sprinting skills needed. How do I know? I was there. I did the Cat 4 race earlier and as we usually did…my wife and I hung out all day watching races!

  • @CowneloAlvaroid
    @CowneloAlvaroid 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Poor Rog stays on deck😤

  • @joespinder9093
    @joespinder9093 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Holistic bicycle racing knowledge 👊🦋🙌 grateful. Was Cav relegated, too?

    • @thart6103
      @thart6103 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep. Cav got the boot also. It chaos every where. 🥾👢😱👊🦋🔥⚰️

  • @EMC2Scotia
    @EMC2Scotia 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On the question of form rising, stabilizing or dropping, and how UAE could've played it on stage 11, on The Move episode with Wiggins they said something similar, in short: "Pogacar is riding like it is him that is 1:15 behind". Precisely. Power matters, but it can also lead you to ride less intelligently.

  • @cracked229
    @cracked229 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fall number 78 for Roglic. Dude has zwift bike handling skills.

    • @margaritastoyanova9253
      @margaritastoyanova9253 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What the bike handling skills have to do when someone take you down, mr YT expert?

  • @onemad.targaryen.rages.respect
    @onemad.targaryen.rages.respect 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    There’s so many motos and autos like they can’t put some of those drivers on the traffic islands with a whistle and flag? 🤦‍♂️

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      12.3 k to go and no warning whistle. Yikes. I hated those little curb. Absolutely the worse. 😱 ⚠️ 🦋

  • @tonyvanderstraaten1040
    @tonyvanderstraaten1040 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was expecting Cavendish to win but it didn't happen. Thanks Chris. Have a great day.

  • @concernedcitizen939
    @concernedcitizen939 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The next tour-watching game - take a drink every time Roglic crashes.

  • @wazzup105
    @wazzup105 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Was this the third or fourth time already that Wout is getting boxed in and cut off at the boarding?

  • @cotejnfrs
    @cotejnfrs 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I cannot wait for Today's stage 13th review. The knuckleheads are gonna fly everywhere if I've been a good student. over th epast few years :-)

  • @davefoc
    @davefoc 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The third significant crash over the last few days after the width of the peloton is narrowed by road furniture. Is this OK? Are the race officials unwilling to do something about this?

    • @Foxtrottangoabc
      @Foxtrottangoabc 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      All the crashes take their toll on the riders and spoil the tdf by week three . It's been criminal in recent years how race officials don't make the riding safer

  • @Mgoblagulkablong
    @Mgoblagulkablong 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I saw someone else calling Roglic a "ground magnet"

  • @Maestrodeluniverso
    @Maestrodeluniverso 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Chris, you should comment about Pocagar killing any option from Yates, Audi and Almeida to threaten the yellow jersey. The UAE loss any change to send those guys in front to force Visma to chase them while Pocagar is pulled by Visma.

  • @rulifaller8474
    @rulifaller8474 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I agree it could help Pogi if UAE would be a bit more savvy in their tactics. But I doubt that either the car or Pogi are able to think of anything other than the big balls tactics. Also, by now it is quite clear that Yates, Almeida and Ayuso are not a real threat to Jonas, they will loose minutes every time Jonas and Pogi go seriously on a climb. So they will only finish ahead of Jonas if he collapses. Visma are smart enough to understand that they do not have to panic when any of these guys attacks.

  • @wesb123
    @wesb123 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🦋

  • @Mybrother53
    @Mybrother53 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I have never seen a pro rider crash this often in my recollection...at some point you'd think he'd learn to position and handle his bike better if simply for self preservation!!

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I was super impressed yesterday during the descent on stage 11 how quickly Roglic goes down hill after so many hard crashes. 🤔🦋⛰️

  • @jameswitte5676
    @jameswitte5676 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    JONAS ABRAHAMSEN is everywhere during this TdF. He gets my vote for most combative for the Tour.

  • @joebriggs8422
    @joebriggs8422 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Really a bummer to see Primož crash again. It seems like seeing him riding bloodied with torn up kit is as common as not. Primož reacting late, IMHO, it goes to Chris’ comment in an earlier video about the need for situational awareness, looking past the rider immediately in front.