Pogačar CLOBBERS Vingegaard on Summit Finish

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  • @nilsvahlenkamp9107
    @nilsvahlenkamp9107 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    What an effort by Nils Politt.
    He is doing so much work for UAE. Not only on this Stage.

    • @christianb.1028
      @christianb.1028 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's insane. He's basically always on the front. I hope he gets to do something for himself at some point in this tour.

    • @CharlesOffdensen
      @CharlesOffdensen หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      They should have an award for the hardest-working cyclist. They should name it the Politt award.

    • @misterxya8465
      @misterxya8465 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Na its not the first and not the last machine on the flat for a guy in yellow.
      He is fabulous no doubt.​@CharlesOffdensen

  • @PelicanIslandLabs
    @PelicanIslandLabs หลายเดือนก่อน +211

    The biggest knucklehead is the guy tossing chips into the face of Pogi and Vini.

    • @or9481
      @or9481 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Grrrrr.

    • @ghtaboma
      @ghtaboma หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Lardass chip thrower should be arrested!

    • @swazi5
      @swazi5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolute jackass

    • @bazadam6635
      @bazadam6635 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Isn't this guy going to be arrested or something?

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Exactly 😱🦋

  • @tonycrabtree3416
    @tonycrabtree3416 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    When crossing the finish line, Tadej looked like he ended a good saturday club ride whilst Jonas looked like death warmed over.

    • @out_spocken
      @out_spocken หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Winning makes the pain seem less. Doesn't mean he didn't sink lots of energy. And not suggesting it didn't hurt Jonas too or more. Just that winning can change the demeanor of a rider

    • @abikeesclerosada
      @abikeesclerosada หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree 100%

    • @shema02
      @shema02 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@out_spocken go watch “le super planche de belle filles " stage where pogacar won in front of Jonas on the gravel climb in tdf 2022
      You can see he was completely cooked unlike today (also on another stage where there was a steep rise in the final climb where he outsprinted Jonas too where he was even more completely cooked)

  • @davids1033
    @davids1033 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    I hope the chips guy gets arrested.

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Exactly. 🤔🦋👍

    • @timliscum2861
      @timliscum2861 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I saw one article that they are seeking legal action against him.. what ever that means. over there.

  • @adamkuenzel1878
    @adamkuenzel1878 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Marc Soler is riding smart and for his team. Not too many “Solerisms” lately.

    • @TalleyrandsPuppet
      @TalleyrandsPuppet หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      UAE is doing a great job of managing Soler. They give him one simple assignment and he gets it done.

    • @roberthotter7008
      @roberthotter7008 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He got an important part of rhe team.

  • @SweetLike
    @SweetLike หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Victor Campanaerts is the only guy in the peloton who always looks like he’s having fun, even if he’s drilling it. He just loves racing that much

    • @erichgerber251
      @erichgerber251 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Him and Jonas Abrahamsen

    • @SweetLike
      @SweetLike หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@erichgerber251 truth! Although abrahamson feels like a bull in a China shop- just rampaging every mile he can. It’s admirable. I was sad that a lot of my favorites aren’t doing the tour this year, but these two make it exciting.

  • @willavinou1507
    @willavinou1507 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    Remco doing better than most expected, and at least trying to sit on Jonas' wheel; the kid's getting smarter too!✊️😂🦋

    • @swisstopia
      @swisstopia หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      The two things that I’m most surprised about: Remco’s improvement as a climber, and Jonas’ recovery from injuries. 🦋👊

    • @aciesunga5652
      @aciesunga5652 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Few stages ago Remco was saying Jonas has no b*lls, now he has no choice but to sit behind his wheels in the mountain stages

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@aciesunga5652And your point is? Because nobody expected him to be that close.

    • @African_Ambition
      @African_Ambition หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't understand your point. Remco was always expected to be dropped on the mountain stages and his aim was top 5. It's his first TDF so I'm not sure why you keep focusing on something he said when he was attacking on his terrain@@aciesunga5652

    • @bossg2817
      @bossg2817 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Remco shrinking his balls rn

  • @charlestoddsullivanforpres6628
    @charlestoddsullivanforpres6628 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

    They have to start arresting fans that interfere with the riders. No fines, no citations - prison time. It's just ridiculous.

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      Today was worse than the lady with her sign that took done the whole peloton a few years back I think because at least she didn’t mean to it. She just didn’t realize how fast and how wide the peloton of riders are. That guy today did it on purpose. 👊🦋

    • @kristianclemensen9107
      @kristianclemensen9107 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      He did get arrested few minutes later. A french police officer was there to witness it. His friend said in a interview that he was drunk, but thats no excuse!

    • @stephenmagee3766
      @stephenmagee3766 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Not "a fan" fans do not behave this way

    • @Sy-es4zi
      @Sy-es4zi หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was drunk that means he's allowed to do whatever he wants​@@kristianclemensen9107

    • @birdofprey108
      @birdofprey108 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He spent night in jail and going to face charges.

  • @CycoWarriorx
    @CycoWarriorx หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Pogi launched that attack with a vengeance… he’s been on a mission this entire TdF… 🍻

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He is incredibly competitive guy and he hates losing and he always gets his revenge.

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      💪🦋👊

  • @todd.goslin6190
    @todd.goslin6190 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    So many experts were so wrong after Wednesday's stage. Now everyone is scrambling back to team Pogačar.

    • @erichgerber251
      @erichgerber251 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So much about these experts …

    • @gurraglad
      @gurraglad หลายเดือนก่อน

      it is almost like they can't read the future

    • @Knofris
      @Knofris หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ⁠​⁠@@gurragladIt’s almost like they’re jumping to conclusions too quickly pretending like they know the future.

    • @gurraglad
      @gurraglad หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Knofris lol imagine if sport commentators aren't allowed to make guesses

    • @Knofris
      @Knofris หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@gurraglad Sure, they are allowed to make guesses for whoever listens to these self-proclaimed experts. I’m talking about those who jumped to conclusions about a three week grand tour because someone lost a sprint after a mountain stage.

  • @jakefr5150
    @jakefr5150 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    All I know is that Victor Campenaerts is the man. That’s all that matters.

  • @robbchastain3036
    @robbchastain3036 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I like that Tadej is attacking and making his rivals answer the bell. And I like that Jonas and Remco are putting up a fight and forcing Tadej to earn his wins and GC lead. Thanks, Chris, for telling us the story of each stage after you've kicked back on the Chesterfield with your snacks and notebook. 😀

  • @johnkolacz6231
    @johnkolacz6231 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Miss Roglic already. His participation would be the only thing that could've made today better. Post crash Vingegaard is amazing. So is Evenepoel. Mr. V always gets his nutrition correct, no bonk. Pogacar got the teammates right today. Will he stay fueled up tomorrow and in the Alps?

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Time will tell. 👊🦋🔥🇫🇷

    • @McGregis
      @McGregis หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lets see what happens, sugar overload 4 sure. Visma will not burn UAE today till the final climb. One day before day off...Pogacar can probably go all out, but bonk is a threat on long climbs. It also depends on temperatures today. Too hot and Vingegard could do some time. Cold water and sugar strategy 😅

    • @MarkBaldone
      @MarkBaldone หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He did in fact not bonk 😹

    • @McGregis
      @McGregis หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MarkBaldone right ? 💪💪

  • @jjashik7
    @jjashik7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Nils Politt is Die Deutsche Traktor

    • @counselor5286
      @counselor5286 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      German tractor no doubt --super diesel model

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Nils Politt is the mountain version of Tim Declerq. He goes at the front of the peloton, the peloton goes F*CK! 😂😂

    • @FoxyFox9186
      @FoxyFox9186 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Der!

  • @willavinou1507
    @willavinou1507 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Finally, strength AND 'smarts' from UAE!🙏
    Pogi masterclass, and it's his to lose now; honestly don't see Vingo getting that much stronger for the remainder, nor does he have the team to help him~

    • @swisstopia
      @swisstopia หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Pogi will put at least another minute on Jonas, before the last TT. The battle is for second place. 🦋👊🇨🇭

    • @mattpotter8725
      @mattpotter8725 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I'm not sure we can say this yet. It was a masterclass today, but how much energy did UAE, Pog included, expend getting 40 more seconds? We'll know more after tomorrow's stage. If Pog gets more time then I think you're right, but I think Vingegaard will go on the attack, if he can, and if Pog can stay with him and jump him on the final climb again then I think he's got it in the bag. It only takes one stage for a rider to crack and lose a lot of time and whilst I don't expect this to happen to Pog we've seen it before and even seen him crack even whilst ahead in this race so we just don't know. I wouldn't count your chickens!!! There's a lot of racing still to go before Nice.

    • @leyu138
      @leyu138 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@mattpotter8725just look at that face of Vinngo at the finish line. I think he is tired.

    • @lionscircle4700
      @lionscircle4700 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mattpotter8725 I think the times when Johan's has beat out Tadej, the bonk has been an issue. If Tadej just rides Johan's back wheel all the way up the last climb, the tour will look out of Visma Lease a bikes hands. Tomorrow is the day, if Johans doesn't have it tomorrow to pull away, lack of conditioning will catch up last week and we will begin to see Johan fade from 2nd to 3rd place in the TT. Lots of questions for tomorrow, enjoying this year's race. Shame about Primoz. Probably be back for Tour de Espana.

    • @user-so3zx9pg7n
      @user-so3zx9pg7n หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not happy to beat a man from ICU ..the tour is in the 2nd half still many things or surprises to come..

  • @methylmike
    @methylmike หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    Did i just hear, " *my man* victor campenaerts"??

    • @methylmike
      @methylmike หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂

    • @camozot
      @camozot หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's been a thing for a while haha

    • @travisla1217
      @travisla1217 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      New around here? It’s become a classic Hornerism 😂

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Just once or twice 😂🦋👊

    • @swisstopia
      @swisstopia หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Merci, team Horner! 👊🇨🇭🦋

  • @jerrychicken967
    @jerrychicken967 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just heard the chap with the crisps was arrested and he'll be charged. Not sure what the penalty is for throwing crisps these days??

  • @dizyaster7700
    @dizyaster7700 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Pogi said, that he put special effort in training for long climbs this season.

  • @bihlygoat
    @bihlygoat หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    “My only motivation for not screwing up is I have to hear about it from five different people.” (Office Space, or could be Abrahamson today 😊)

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Hehehe. And Jonas thought it was over after Alberto Bettiol yelled at him. Only to hear he made it on T🦋E also. 😱😂🦋👊

  • @DavidStacey-tx7on
    @DavidStacey-tx7on หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    How is this channel on got 86k subs???? Best race breakdown period

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      👊🦋

    • @alaefarmestatesllc
      @alaefarmestatesllc หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Needs some video clips. Not just pictures

    • @DavidStacey-tx7on
      @DavidStacey-tx7on หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alaefarmestatesllc copyright

    • @Mike01129
      @Mike01129 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@alaefarmestatesllc Could be a copyright thing that is not worth paying the rights to.

    • @alaefarmestatesllc
      @alaefarmestatesllc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mike01129 rights aren’t that expensive. Every other channel does video clips. He makes enough off of this channel to easily afford the rights

  • @nt78stonewobble
    @nt78stonewobble หลายเดือนก่อน

    In 1997 my family and I followed the tour around in a camper van.
    Regarding sports and France, it was an amazing experience. Regarding spending 3 weeks in a small space with people you don't necessarily mix with (slightly extended family), it was a... challenge. :D
    There was actually a picture in the local news papers of my mothers hand trying to hand water to Riis the day he cracked on alpe d'huez.
    Our experience with fans are that, by far, most people behave quite well. Not unlike concerts... most people behave well, but there's always a few knuckle heads.
    Now we had our great local French wine, in the evenings, after the stage, but we did notice eg. some fresh young boys from our own country, who had just jumped in any old car and driven there (we doubted they had more than 1 or 2 sets of clothes with), who started on the alcohol quite early.
    As far as we could see, even they mostly behaved, yelled louder than most, but behaved.
    On the other hand, we also saw eg. a French lady steal the free kids toys from the advertisement caravan out of the hands of Spanish fan... much to his consternation.
    And I will never understand why people keep stepping closer to the riders on mountain stages. If everybody stayed at the side of the road, everybody would be able to see.
    Human group nature I guess... but that's probably just a reflex by most people.
    But throwing things at people is just inexcusable.

  • @Chiller11
    @Chiller11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great analysis again. This has been an exciting Tour so far. Glad I found this channel to give a knowledgeable analysis of racing tactics and the mysterious workings of the peloton.

  • @stolirosa
    @stolirosa หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    AWESOME analysis!! This stage was 🔥🔥🔥

  • @01FozzyS
    @01FozzyS หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Pogi and his team with some good tactics today! Chip guy,get lost! lol

  • @timliscum2861
    @timliscum2861 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    More chaos tomorrow with the uphill start and a Hellacious Stage and Bastille Day

  • @qingyuhu
    @qingyuhu หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What a awesome stage! One of the best TDF ever!

  • @emclesaittout3634
    @emclesaittout3634 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    All the NBC Cycling Clowns were questioning my boy, Tadej. He shut them the hell up today!! I truly appreciate Tadej’s aggression as opposed to years past where there might be two stages at most where one of the two favorite teams attacked one another.

  • @adamcurpier
    @adamcurpier หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Good stuff Chris, will be interesting tomorrow! Looking forward what Visma can do ... just seems UAE is too strong. Pogi, so strong!

  • @claytonmuller21
    @claytonmuller21 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I assume it will be very hard to beat a smart and on form Pogi without the likes of Sepp and climbing WVA. Let’s see if Jonas can bring some time back tomorrow, otherwise it will be hard to get the 2 minutes back, because Pogi is on fire

    • @cristianhadar3265
      @cristianhadar3265 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, and I assume it's hard to beat Jonas without an all star team around Pogi. That goes the other way around, doesn't it?

    • @simoncbr900rr
      @simoncbr900rr หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Jumbo had 2 leaders the last 2 years that could win so Pogi was having to cover 2 potential attackers that could win.
      That would kill anyone

    • @cristianhadar3265
      @cristianhadar3265 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That was only true for 22 when Roglic was there. Sepp Kuss never had any GC ambitious, same like Yates and Almeida, they are up in contention but really only super domestiques.

    • @Knofris
      @Knofris หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@simoncbr900rrWhich rider besides Jonas was able to win the Tour last year?

    • @claytonmuller21
      @claytonmuller21 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cristianhadar3265 yes I was being specific about this tour, in which Pogacar has a strong team and Jonas doesn’t.

  • @VKMore-o5c
    @VKMore-o5c หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kudos Chris, the shoulder's the way you fight to maintain a position or keep from being pushed into the barriers. Amateur as I am, but I was taught and used this technique many times on the track and on the lead-up to a sprint... esp when someone wants to move you out of someone's wheel...

  • @gnosis6452
    @gnosis6452 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    When Adam attacked, Visma Radio said "We dont care about Adam" but Jorgenson in front pulling Pog..🤦

    • @hoogabooga9736
      @hoogabooga9736 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      yes.....why? Everyone knew Pogacar was going to attack and I'm thinking Jorgenson's job is to bridge Vino to him when he does.....

    • @gnosis6452
      @gnosis6452 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@hoogabooga9736 he cant bridge because he was in the front already eating wind.. when pog attacked, Jorgenson did not help jonas bridge to pog. 🤦

    • @samlin8089
      @samlin8089 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      i agree. why did visma have to put jorgensen in the front at that time?

    • @Phlakaton88
      @Phlakaton88 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Visma and Jonas should have gone with Yates. They didn’t have the legs. So Tadej sensed it and jumped on it. My theory.

    • @AlexAtterbury
      @AlexAtterbury หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I came here just to ask this, or find an answer - why does Visma need Jorgensen to chase Yates? Why not just let him go?

  • @stevenappelget3564
    @stevenappelget3564 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Knucklehead count: 4
    Chips fan earned about a million knuckleheads.

    • @jackspeed650
      @jackspeed650 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "..double, triple, quadruple knucklehead " :)

    • @mjbruyere
      @mjbruyere หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for keeping count daily. Perhaps the "quadruple knucklehead" could've counted for 4 knuckleheads, but it's the scorekeeper's (i.e. your) decision.

  • @yelapa999
    @yelapa999 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I thought the exact opposite about the Canpios kerfuffle. Your expanded take on the incident is case in point as to why I watch. Thanks.

  • @phacharawut
    @phacharawut หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Go Pogi. Go Remco.

  • @jjashik7
    @jjashik7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Correction : the two monster climbs were HC (hors catégorie, or above classification), not cat 1 as you stated. I suspect you were thinking correctly (as in top category), but given that there are cat 1 climbs, I think it was worth pointing out. Thanks for the analysis Chris.

    • @fatman1198
      @fatman1198 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you step out of the shower to take a piss?

  • @wesleydeng71
    @wesleydeng71 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    After stage 11, I read someone here that said Tadej would never try to attack again. 🤣

  • @RainCityRoadie
    @RainCityRoadie หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great content my man Chris!

  • @MarkKanaster-ev6pq
    @MarkKanaster-ev6pq หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Beat Lance record up the climb by two minutes

    • @DavidStacey-tx7on
      @DavidStacey-tx7on หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      💉💉💊💊

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      💨🔥🦋👍

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@MarkKanaster-ev6pq Lance had a physique of a triathlete. Pog is a living statue of road cyclist.

  • @srikrishnamurthy
    @srikrishnamurthy หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    That was a tactical attack. It is Pogacar's Tour to lose-easier to defend than gain time

    • @flexkikr
      @flexkikr หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sometimes you gotta race like a knucklehead to win a stage/tour just like Tadej been wasting energy from the last 2-3 stages 😂😅

    • @srikrishnamurthy
      @srikrishnamurthy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@flexkikr That's true-a classic way to bonk later on. He did mention in one of his interviews that hopefully he doesn't bonk. Pogi is folllowing his Vingegaard blueprint from last year who went all in the first few stages to gain time

    • @joerenner8334
      @joerenner8334 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@srikrishnamurthyExcept this year Pog has a stronger team than Jonas.

    • @srikrishnamurthy
      @srikrishnamurthy หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joerenner8334 That's true. Absence of Kuss and Kruijswijk is hurting Visma the most

    • @bozidarsicel3884
      @bozidarsicel3884 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      What hurts Anchovy the most is Tadej's strength and joy of riding for fun.

  • @h20s8804
    @h20s8804 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I wonder if Campenaerts knows that he is Chris Horner's man?

  • @eljeferaider
    @eljeferaider หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    UAE is just the stronger team this year. Today they were just hammering the front

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yep. But the back to back mountain stages are coming. So there’s hope still for Jonas. He’s lighter so that may make the difference. Maybe 😜🦋🤞👊⛰️

    • @DavidStacey-tx7on
      @DavidStacey-tx7on หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ChrisHornerCycling first few mountains in week 1 they and Pog seem to be testing Jonas and where he is at, once they realised this tuff kid is in good shape they are racing more defensive and smart. My take on it

  • @ZBicyclist
    @ZBicyclist หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Phil and Roll kept saying how good Sean Quinn was doing up the Tourmalet, probably just because he's American. I can understand Quinn taking all the EF turns, but a breakaway where nobody else rotates through with dozens of km to go is doomed.

    • @hoogabooga9736
      @hoogabooga9736 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they're paying him for those awful TDF diary videos.

  • @lightw1thoutheat
    @lightw1thoutheat หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Not sure how accurate they are, but the folks that estimate power numbers show this as Tadej’s best climb ever and also very good numbers for Jonas (which matches Jonas saying he was very happy with his numbers). If that’s accurate, I think this means that with the stronger team and finally seeming to be a bit more smart tactically, unless he bonks, Tadej will extend his lead into Nice. Tomorrow will be a huge day given that it’s going to be a longer climb and hotter-which have typically been more suited Jonas. Can’t wait!

    • @jackspeed650
      @jackspeed650 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It leaked from Visma that Jonas has even bigger numbers this year than last year,

    • @DusanCeferin
      @DusanCeferin หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jackspeed650 Chances are this is all smoke and mirrors just like the yesterday's stage VLAB radio message about how the pace set by UAE suits Jonas just fine. It seems in both cases that these bits of information are totally unnecessary, redundant and forced. Namely, had the the Jonas numbers really been that great, every/any smart tactitian would have kept them secret and confidently and patiently wait for the race to play out. By the same token, had the pace set by UAE really suited Jonas, you can be pretty sure they would have not announced it on the radio and that they would have just prayed that UAE keeps doing their thing. There are other bits of psychological warfare waged by VLAB sprinkled all over the information space (like Jonas' moderately upbeat post stage statements, lack of reliable information about Jonas' real health condition regarding the april crash and that totally ridiiculous tactics van idea), just to confuse evrybody and stop focusing on what really matters. All these bits make one think VLAB are forced to resort to these kinds of means because they lack what it takes to achieve their objective.

  • @cebuanongXtaiwan
    @cebuanongXtaiwan หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lesson to all of the GC teams, you should care for anyone.. When Adam Yates attacked, Visma and Soudal doesn't care. Few minutes later, Tadej attacked and bridges to Yates for recovery. We've already seen that glimpse before. Like for example 2022 Giro when Hindley attacks Carapaz for a few hundred meters and bridges to Kamna who was part of the breakaway and waited in the right moment. When Hindley finally on his teammates wheel, Kamna hammered it down and Carapaz cracked.

  • @lorendieu9806
    @lorendieu9806 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Marc soler was looking very good today! Glad to see it. Good call.

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes 🦋👊

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lorendieu9806 The Solerism is strong with that one! 😂 He is turning into a world-class team player. Wonder if they will award him with sending him to the Vuelta with Adam Yates and Almeida-to chase some glory for themselves.

    • @lorendieu9806
      @lorendieu9806 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tonyg3091 He is definatly going. Well if not sick or such. He has been on fine form and perhaps they are all inspired by the chance to win it all. Hopfully he will have some chances at a state in the Vuelta, and with the others for the win as well. Good times for my Catalan friend.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lorendieu9806 Yeah, I hope he will shine at the Vuelta. One of my favorite riders-batshit crazy at times, love him

  • @desertgamers6065
    @desertgamers6065 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was a fun Episode Chris, I enjoyed that one. Your coming into your form. Thanks

  • @flexkikr
    @flexkikr หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Jonas should’ve stopped too and stand next to Tadej while having a nature break! 😅

    • @mracer8
      @mracer8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He did, but he is standing right behind Tadej :P

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😜🦋

  • @hazarddavid6987
    @hazarddavid6987 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As usual, good analysis boss....you made my day...
    Keep up the good work...❤❤from KL Msia

  • @bsidhom
    @bsidhom หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They had a westerly wind (i.e., tailwind) going up the relatively steep Tourmalet, which partly explains why neither group could get much of a draft benefit. I wouldn’t fault anybody for this.
    You still seem to be unconvinced of Pogacar’s form, which is somewhat surprising to me. Guess we’ll see in Nice. 🙂
    I’d say the only real knucklehead today was the chip thrower.

  • @baffinsansterre
    @baffinsansterre หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    You can close the book, we have a tdf winner. We see why Jonas need a Simon Yates in his team.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Pig doesn’t have one either. Simon Yates I mean. 😂

    • @paulflory3532
      @paulflory3532 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly why VIsma had Sepp Kuss on their team originally.

  • @tonilauge5786
    @tonilauge5786 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Vingegaard and subscribers miss Primoz 😷

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yep. Primoz may have helped with that chase. 🥲🦋

  • @ericvonhellens8822
    @ericvonhellens8822 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Top 10, 9th.
    The Solerism did good today.
    I remember in 1986, Andy attacked and after a few k, Greg went after him, caught him and left him to win the stage and get yellow. 👍🏻

  • @fraserjudd9483
    @fraserjudd9483 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for the analysis Chris. I went for a gravel ride today with a pair of your Bontrager shoes I got in bend 8 years ago! Good stuff for us Knuckleheads.

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hope you enjoyed your ride. 👊🦋👞

  • @JamesSpooner-p9z
    @JamesSpooner-p9z หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome analysis! Thanks.

  • @noternunstoned
    @noternunstoned หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Pog is showing JV's weakness, his lack of training time, oh well, next year.

  • @gideonmthembu8693
    @gideonmthembu8693 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pogy remains a moster and it's now looking certain he is bagging both grand tours. Remco still has balls and doing way better than expected. As for man of the tour Ving, he is amazing. This rider is coming from a life threatening crash with a recovery of less than a 100 days. He is giving us the entertainment far better than what we saw at the giro where Pogy toyed with everyone. He has to be careful and a calculating Pogy here or else he would be smoked up. Nice 🦋 CH.😊

    • @roberthotter7008
      @roberthotter7008 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True
      All of them are great and to be admired for one or the other reason hope to see Vingegaard back on steeper climbs as he is the Mr. 1 climber in the bunch .
      But there can be onl, one BOSS, SirTadej, the best Cyclist of the last 30 years ( at least) imho

  • @tonypapay
    @tonypapay หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Great race! Had to turn Peacock off post race as those commentators were tongue tied.

    • @timliscum2861
      @timliscum2861 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      TJ so pissed his boys got brought back.. haha.. cant figure out why they have such a bias guy on the show... I cant watch it either

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน

      🦚🦋🤣👊

    • @VeloWeaponry
      @VeloWeaponry หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Peacock coverage is horrible.

    • @mracer8
      @mracer8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VeloWeaponry just watch the race! you don't have to listen to before the race bahbah! the video feed is worldwide feed! so it won't be any more or less horrible then the rest of the world!

    • @dorseykindler9544
      @dorseykindler9544 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VeloWeaponryIt really is

  • @mjcohnmd
    @mjcohnmd หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Also go back to stage 12 where Cav was relegated. The reason Cav had to swerve off his line was similarly because an Arkéa lead out rider was again inattentively peeling away nearly taking out Cav in full sprint the same way an Arkéa rider today took out the Lotto rider. I don’t think it was malicious but to me it was lackadaisical and negligent. And in both cases, it seems to me that the victim got penalized.

  • @todd.goslin6190
    @todd.goslin6190 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I had to feel for Dovy Day Go Du!

  • @natebusch2266
    @natebusch2266 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Something about that stage reminds me of the time I was in the early breakaway of the 2001 Saturn cycling classic and I got got by a counter attack move that included Chris Horner. Chris Horner attacked at the bottom of Guanella pass and destroyed me and everyone else in that group. Then I got caught and passed by the John Vaughters group near the last part of the climb… yup being in the early break is cool for fun and publicity til you get caught and then not so much …

  • @gahbahjj
    @gahbahjj หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'll add my support for you to do a quick vid on the next stage & tactics the teams can make the best use of their people. if utube gives you revenues for your posts - all the better for you and us. i always watch you for analysis after the hilites - thanks

  •  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At 11:45 Soler(ism) is the one who taps Politt, not Sivakov, although Pavel takes it later from Marc

  • @fishandfloral
    @fishandfloral หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why aren’t the organizers placing barriers on the steepest parts of the climbs, where throngs of fans generally act like a**holes, blocking the roadway, touching the riders and tossing stuff at them? It happens every single mountain stage.

  • @hernanhernandez3861
    @hernanhernandez3861 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Matteo is like another racer this year. Never would have thought he would be pacing JV in the final kilometers in a mountain stage in the TdF.

  • @sianb1260
    @sianb1260 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had to check when you said "bonking" as it meant something else to me. Luckily urban dictionary confirmed your definition 🚴😂

  • @painterQjensen
    @painterQjensen หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sending up a teammate to jump to is a classic, and pogi clearly has the power to create a gap even to vingegaard.

  • @themusette5894
    @themusette5894 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That guy is Pringles Roglic. Ok, I'll close the door behind me.

  • @joehopfield
    @joehopfield หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    If the shoulder goes into the elbow, they'll crash every time.

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True that. 😱🦋

    • @craighamley3669
      @craighamley3669 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Damned right... That's why camping out at the tightest corner before the prime line in Cat 3-5 crits is so popular with the spectators 🙄

  • @TheGotoGeek
    @TheGotoGeek หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Politt is starting to look like Declercq.

    • @mumblerapkilla5406
      @mumblerapkilla5406 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Politt makes Declerq look like the toy tractor my brother liked to ride when he was 4

  • @eljeferaider
    @eljeferaider หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really thought healey had it but pogatron blew up 🆙 the race😮‍💨

  • @luizmcmesquita
    @luizmcmesquita หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I still don't know why UAE isn't letting Visma pull. Last year, Visma (Jumbo, back then) had the yellow jersey and let UEA pull and just kept on their wheel, and it worked.
    This year, UAE have the jersey but they're still pulling.
    Don't understand.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@luizmcmesquita UAE are moving at the exact tempo that suits Pog, no more no less. And this tempo is one that kills Visma riders one by one until only Jorgenson and Jonas remain. And then Pog kills them. This is in a nutshell.

  • @djexidor4670
    @djexidor4670 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My man!

  • @ranisharoni75
    @ranisharoni75 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can Pogacar break Pantani's 98 record today up to Plateau de Beille?

  • @Muldoon111
    @Muldoon111 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chip man should get Knucklehead of the year.

  • @SWells679
    @SWells679 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chris, i gotcha with the use of sprinters / trains using shoulders to make room & such. But, c'mon. I don't believe Van Gils tried to wreck, but that was an over the top kinda shoulder check.

  • @tonyg3091
    @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am only here to hear about UAE and Pog knucklehead tactics and the Solerism. 😂😂😂

  • @petedog9581
    @petedog9581 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    UAE works as a team better w/o Ayuso. He was reluctant to take his turn pulling for Tadej.

  • @jerrychicken967
    @jerrychicken967 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just heard Pog beat LA's climb record of Le Pla d'Adet by 2 minutes?? Ooh! Naughty Naughty! ;)

  • @Maestrodeluniverso
    @Maestrodeluniverso หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Chris, what would be the Visma strategy? What would be the UAE estrategy to protect Pogacar?

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Visma only real strategy would be to hope Jonas gets a tad better. Then anything could happen as we saw last year. There is small hope that Pogi’s legs fade after such a long time being at the top. Covid is around and could hit anyone. But visma do not have a two rider option in the race, so they cannot put any real pressure on UAE unless Jonas level goes up or Pogi’s goes down. But with only a 1:57 lead Pogi, certainly any change in fitness could make that happen very quickly still. 🤔🦋🔥👍

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Round #2.
      Let’s see how the big climbs go and see if Jonas’ lighter weight helps him to bridge the gap in fitness to Pogi. The important thing for now is that Jonas always stays with Pogi and does not try to win the race tomorrow or on the next couple of mountain stages, unless Jonas feels the legs have improved greatly. So Visma strategy is to wait patiently and hope time helps Jonas improve. 👊🦋🤔

    • @mracer8
      @mracer8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I am not Chris and Visma don't have enough mountain goat to do damage to UAE unless I am mistaken! just keep Pogi safe and fuel and this thing is a done deal! I have yet to see Jonas make a attack in 14 days of racing so is hard to believe they can put the hurt in with the team they have left! maybe tomorrow Jonas can do a 197km solo breakaway and win by 8 min!! just like Floyd Landis did back in 2006 with that 120km ride! hahahha!!!

    • @user-wd8mn8sf1j
      @user-wd8mn8sf1j หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChrisHornerCycling what if Jonas had latched onto Yates before Pogi made his move?

  • @counselor5286
    @counselor5286 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yes you were right CH power trumps strategy.

  • @johntrumbull2910
    @johntrumbull2910 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wasn’t Vinegaatd able to match Pogacar accelerations last year? I seem to remember Pog appearing a bit frustrated to see Vin on his wheel. The point being, Vin performance is impressive but not the same. It takes a long time for the body to heal

  • @mattpotter8725
    @mattpotter8725 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chris, i was waiting patiently here in the UK for your analysis of the stage because watching this i thought, like you, perfectly executed plan on the final climb by UAE, but there's still a nagging thought in the back of my head that says was this necessary, and we'll only know after tomorrow's stage if this was wise.
    Now it's perfectly possible that it was the best way to go and Pog either rides tempo tomorrow, or even does the same thing again, but surely he's burnt some matches today by doing this and he, and his super domestiques, may pay for this effort tomorrow?
    Great analysis as usual but i was hoping to hear some thoughts on what Visma could have done to try to combat this. Maybe there wasn't anything, as you say this Visma team ain't the same one as last year, maybe Jorgenson just doesn't have it in his legs, but i felt he needed to go all in to bring back Yates, even if it meant his team leader being left exposed later up the climb, but all Visma riders drop away so this happens anyway the moment the peace is increased.
    I have to say I've been very disappointed with Jorgenson. I know it's easy to criticise and he's young and maybe it's too much to expect for him to perform consistently day in day out in a 3 week race like the Tour, but after his form in the Dauphiné i expected more.
    I wonder if Pog (and UAE in general) lured Visma into a false sense of security by saying they didn't need to attack today, but unlike the stage a few days ago where Pog attacked on an earlier climb only to be brought back and ultimately beaten by Jonas he went on the final climb where i think he knew he wouldn't get into the same difficulties, there was just no time to be able to respond and once it flattened off towards the top Pog could time trial his way to the line taking even more time.
    Is there any way to combat this? Thinking a bit more if Jorgenson didn't have the legs couldn't Vingegaard have put in a burst before Pog attacked? Sure Pog gets on his wheel but it just looked far too easy for Adam Yates to sprint away and then for Pog to do the same minutes later.

  • @gabors1154
    @gabors1154 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Landa became Landis 😁

  • @subtropicalken1362
    @subtropicalken1362 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s a shame Sepp’s not in the race. Presumably he would have followed Yeats up the road to support Jonas and make it more competitive. But I think UAE has be listening to your tactics. 😏

  • @dorianwaller8796
    @dorianwaller8796 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Let’s go!!!

  • @bg147
    @bg147 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The chip guy should probably lay off the chips and pursue a low cal diet.

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂🦋👊

    • @MC-vd5kp
      @MC-vd5kp หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It was disgusting that he wasn't wearing a shirt, to make it all worse.

  • @GOLTEB
    @GOLTEB หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Igniting those smoke is such a knucklehead behavior by the audience, imagine climbing with all you've got, gasping for air and some knucklhead ignites those smoke effects

    • @swazi5
      @swazi5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Been thinking for years they should ban the smoke bombs, so stupid

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🔥😱🦋

  • @mokasusa
    @mokasusa หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey Cris...you think you could hold Pogs wheel there?

  • @stuartwalker6786
    @stuartwalker6786 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    The rider most dangerous to Pogacar on GC is Pogacar! Unless he starts NOW riding 'defensively' In terms of stop trying to put more time into the other 2 (bonus seconds at the finish apart) he increases his chances of sabotaging his own TDF win!, there is NO WAY he should lose 2 mins if he follows JV and RE wheels and allow them to absorb ALL the stress of trying to find a way to get that time back. He can repeat the tactic in todays stage of shooting AY or even JA (a bit more difficult given his position and sure to result in a reaction from at least CR/Ineos) off the front on the last climb and then leave it to the other teams to pull it back and sit on them (not bridging), let them do all the work and hopefully Yates stays away for another win for UAE or if brought back, Pogacar will be the fresher, save energy for that massive last week, possibly gain bonus seconds or at the very worst doesn't lose time.
    ALSO....They should Identify the idiot who threw Cheesy Wotsits into Pogacar's face and out him!! They don't belong anywhere near a bike race!

    • @nigelstead8424
      @nigelstead8424 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He leads by 1.57 atm I think. Pogi won his first TDF by overturning Roglic’s lead of 1.56 on the TT. His lead is not decisive and it would be risky for him to simply try and defend it with so far to go and a big TT at the end. Besides he is at his best when he tries to win races.

    • @mracer8
      @mracer8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wow, how negative racing can you get! if you can't gain time but only ride so defensively even with the strongest team, the fastest rider in the mountain! maybe you shouldn't bother with racing!! nobody tell Pogi to go Kamikaze and do a 80km breakaway! but keeping the pace high and attack close to the finish shouldn't be a issue or risk as long as UAE keep a rider near by with pocket full of GEL and Drink for Pogi!! You can not go into the final tt stage with just a 1-2 min advantage where a bike issue or small mishaps will ruined your whole year of preparation!!

    • @ChrisHornerCycling
      @ChrisHornerCycling  หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I can’t wait to see if the back to back climbing helps out Jonas any. Jonas is lighter but pogi is flying. Yes pogi has to not let big balls over ride smart defensive riding. And Yep. Throw that chip guy out. 🤔👊🦋😱

    • @tonycrabtree3416
      @tonycrabtree3416 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@mracer8Jonas did ride defensively for two straight tour victories.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nigelstead8424Correct. He needs to enter the last stage with about 3 minutes on Jonas AND Remco (very important) so he can feel a winner. 2 minutes is not enough so I guess they will repeat the same tactics over and over-grind Visma on the climbs until only Jonas is left and then attack in the last km-try to put 15-20 seconds in him every mountain stage/
      But we will see of course, this situation is still very unpredictable

  • @Michael00000001
    @Michael00000001 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shoulder at sprint: you're looking to the wrong pictures. You need to watch the camera from behind. He overtook at a place where there was not space enough to overtake and it was a dangerous turn. I don't think they fined him for the shoulder check.

  • @stephenmagee3766
    @stephenmagee3766 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Landa I just cant do it!!!

  • @robanderson9565
    @robanderson9565 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you reap what you sow

  • @mjock392
    @mjock392 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everyone talking about the chips guy, but nobody talks a bout the GUY WITH A LFARE IN TADEJ AND JONAS FACE?!?! Pushing max HR on a climb and someone throws smoke and fumes in your lungs is much worse than some chips!

  • @mamar20000
    @mamar20000 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stage 15: I can't believe Pogacar is not doping. The superiority on the other top riders is so big that it doesn't seem human. Chris, do you care to comment? Best

    • @debasishnayak8610
      @debasishnayak8610 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think that's with jonas as well

  • @foreshow1
    @foreshow1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    lol Got a bike thousand bucks!!

  • @simonwarmer8777
    @simonwarmer8777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ‘My man Campenaerts’ a man who doesn’t need sunglasses.

  • @visionaryfirearmsllc9999
    @visionaryfirearmsllc9999 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Chris starts having special guest editions, Victor should be the first.

  • @morganconey4814
    @morganconey4814 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Potentially if Roglic was still in the race he might have responded to Yates attack... So many what ifs 🤔

  • @BevoBill31
    @BevoBill31 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its called a cyclocross hand-up😂

  • @ItsMinarmy
    @ItsMinarmy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gaudu is Italian on this channel