Hey Thomas, I started doing these by hand back about 2004. High flow TB's weren't available back then. For getting the screws out just mill/grind the peened end of the threads off. The screws will come right out. Then, you can red locktite and a center punch to flair the end of the same screw again. Also, JMHO. Leave some of the tab at the top of the bore. It keeps the airhat/filter assembly centered. Good job man! I like your ambition! I think I sold somewhere close to 175 of these on ebay back then.
Good to know thanks man. I may have to check out the ebay route. But I don't want to cover myself up just need to make some extra money to fund the projects.
Very nice work! I did mine a couple of years ago with a band saw (NOT RECOMMENDED) and a die grinder. I did notice a small gain in power and a huge improvement in throttle response. I am sure with some other engine mods the power would be better.
Are you essentially making the hole the same size from top to bottom. I was wondering when you said about not damaging where the throttle blade sits if you were leaving a lip for it to rest on .
After you grind the expansion off holding the throttle lever how do you re-attach the lever? Are you drilling and threading the end of the shaft? Spot welding? I started to flip mine and the thought of drilling and tapping the hardened shaft made me think twice. I have a lathe even. Riding the bike to work in march doesn’t sound appealing should anything snap. The shaft or tooling. I agree with a previous comment and had already ground the expansion off the screws and dimpled the screw upon installation. Without the mention of the screws stripping I probably would have done exactly that with at least one of them. Thank you for that. I got a crazy idea while punching the screw dimples about how intake systems benifit like a golf ball from dimples. I have no idea if it works any better since I never ran it in between stock and this. ⬇️
Grind the expansion off. knock the shaft out with a punch. rotate shaft press back together and then blast it with the welder and quickly into a bucket of water before the plastic starts to melt.
Whats the turn around time. Ive got a v8 tb that i modified to fit my truck when it was still a v6 with the linkage rod. The modified one is the only i have that will work with my truck and cant have it down for too long as it's my daily. Also have complete good v8 off a 97 motor. Would you be willing to take money off the work in exchange for the 97 tb?
You can also: before loosening the screw. take a Dremel and cut the end of the screw off flush. Then with a burbit or drill bit grind a little more of the screw end out. This usually allows the screw to come out without damaging the threads. However I will say the vise grip idea is also a good one. I am just suggesting another option.
IV done it that way and it does work but it's way faster snapping them off. Also IV had them make it out and when putting it back together the screws are so soft it stripped out when I got a tad too aggressive tightening it and then it wouldn't back out after lol. The new screws are much harder.
Hey Thomas it's Brevin, about the supercharged jeep. After looking through online I can't find any MPVI2s that aren't from sketch websites, which I'm pretty sure is the only HP tuners that works for JTEC. Mines a 98 so it falls under that category. Is there any other route that you know of for "tuning" for my setup? I saw the Split Second Fuel Timing controller that's used in these 4L applications, the FTC-1. I believe it has a fuel enrichment setting where I can hook it up to the upstream O2, to where it adjusts the air/fuel going to the computer, richens under lean, conditions. With that and the Honda map sensor, does that sound like a possible way to go?
Hey buddy. I know your a good bit away but is bringing it to me something that's possible? The split seconds seem to work I do not have personal experience with them tho. Some people say they are great and some blame them for why their jeep blew up.
@thomasbeyer definitely isn't, im in FL, uninsured no tag kinda just a backyard project. Ill look into some other options for fuel management. Considering you got yours running with just the map sensor and the big injectors, I think it'll ultimately end up running without a tune, and the only thing I'd be worried about is running lean. I'm not at the point of tuning yet either just figuring everything out a little before I get to it. I think ill end up trying the split second in the end, hoping to get everything as close to plug and play as possible. I ended up getting those injector caps to make them longer too, super happy with them. I'll let you know what I come up with once I get to that point. Still waiting on some parts but it's getting closer 👌
Yes iv had someone put one on a V6. The throttle cable has to be changed to the V8 style or the V6 throttle lever needs swapped onto the V8 throttle body. Last time I did one the guy sent me his V6 and a V8 throttle to do the job. No I won't accept the V6 throttle body as a core.
It will help for sure. I will drop a link to my Facebook page in the description. I use PayPal, cash app, and Facebook pay. I'll add my email.too. whatever is easiest for you.
Hey I am unable to go get another throttle body to send in for a core and I drive my truck daily I'm wondering if you can get one and do it and we can work out something and then we will have to get the money to you I have cash app but never used it and I'm not sure what to do ( not to good with this new age stuff yet lol
I'm not even mad and thank you for making a good detail video keep up the good work and I'm definitely going to stay tuned in hopefully I can get my 2001 Dodge Durango RT back on the road learning a lot off your videos Man definitely appreciate you
Thomas, I've got 1 ready to send out to you. Please contact me for sending my core to You. Also can you port match a 2 inch aluminum spacer plate to the base of the TB? Best Regards.
Nice work, very well done! The price is right too!
Отличная работа!!! Молодец!!! Спасибо!!!
Hey Thomas, I started doing these by hand back about 2004. High flow TB's weren't available back then. For getting the screws out just mill/grind the peened end of the threads off. The screws will come right out. Then, you can red locktite and a center punch to flair the end of the same screw again. Also, JMHO. Leave some of the tab at the top of the bore. It keeps the airhat/filter assembly centered. Good job man! I like your ambition! I think I sold somewhere close to 175 of these on ebay back then.
Good to know thanks man. I may have to check out the ebay route. But I don't want to cover myself up just need to make some extra money to fund the projects.
It's good to see someone else is actively working on the classic
I did mine, major difference in throttle response. 👍
Well worth it
NICE!!!! Amazing job, we love it!
Thank you
Looks awesome all said & done.
Thanks man
nice setup and nice work! Thanks for the video!
Thank you
Badass video man! Keep em coming
Thank you
@@thomasbeyer 🤙
Thanks!
Very nice work! I did mine a couple of years ago with a band saw (NOT RECOMMENDED) and a die grinder. I did notice a small gain in power and a huge improvement in throttle response. I am sure with some other engine mods the power would be better.
Nothing wrong with getting it done with the tools you have. It's definitely a worthwhile mod.
Killer!! I have some cores ready, already replaced them with aftermarkets years ago. May get a '92 and '00 done by you!
Not a problem I can handle it. Do you have a Facebook account?
@@thomasbeyer Yep. "Rodney Byrd" with a pickle sandwich for a profile picture. LOL
Nice job buddy.
Thanks man
Are you essentially making the hole the same size from top to bottom. I was wondering when you said about not damaging where the throttle blade sits if you were leaving a lip for it to rest on .
After you grind the expansion off holding the throttle lever how do you re-attach the lever? Are you drilling and threading the end of the shaft? Spot welding? I started to flip mine and the thought of drilling and tapping the hardened shaft made me think twice. I have a lathe even. Riding the bike to work in march doesn’t sound appealing should anything snap. The shaft or tooling. I agree with a previous comment and had already ground the expansion off the screws and dimpled the screw upon installation. Without the mention of the screws stripping I probably would have done exactly that with at least one of them. Thank you for that. I got a crazy idea while punching the screw dimples about how intake systems benifit like a golf ball from dimples. I have no idea if it works any better since I never ran it in between stock and this. ⬇️
Grind the expansion off. knock the shaft out with a punch. rotate shaft press back together and then blast it with the welder and quickly into a bucket of water before the plastic starts to melt.
Whats the turn around time. Ive got a v8 tb that i modified to fit my truck when it was still a v6 with the linkage rod. The modified one is the only i have that will work with my truck and cant have it down for too long as it's my daily. Also have complete good v8 off a 97 motor. Would you be willing to take money off the work in exchange for the 97 tb?
You can also: before loosening the screw. take a Dremel and cut the end of the screw off flush. Then with a burbit or drill bit grind a little more of the screw end out. This usually allows the screw to come out without damaging the threads.
However I will say the vise grip idea is also a good one. I am just suggesting another option.
IV done it that way and it does work but it's way faster snapping them off. Also IV had them make it out and when putting it back together the screws are so soft it stripped out when I got a tad too aggressive tightening it and then it wouldn't back out after lol. The new screws are much harder.
Nice. Can you post a link for the tapered router bit ?
What kind of bit did you use to make the tapered edge on the top
What about something crazy like milling the center out and making it mono blade
In my opinion way too much time for very little gain. But it has been done.
Awesome job. I would imagine on a stock motor its atleast gonna feel better
Thank you
Hey Thomas it's Brevin, about the supercharged jeep.
After looking through online I can't find any MPVI2s that aren't from sketch websites, which I'm pretty sure is the only HP tuners that works for JTEC. Mines a 98 so it falls under that category. Is there any other route that you know of for "tuning" for my setup? I saw the Split Second Fuel Timing controller that's used in these 4L applications, the FTC-1. I believe it has a fuel enrichment setting where I can hook it up to the upstream O2, to where it adjusts the air/fuel going to the computer, richens under lean, conditions. With that and the Honda map sensor, does that sound like a possible way to go?
Hey buddy. I know your a good bit away but is bringing it to me something that's possible? The split seconds seem to work I do not have personal experience with them tho. Some people say they are great and some blame them for why their jeep blew up.
@thomasbeyer definitely isn't, im in FL, uninsured no tag kinda just a backyard project. Ill look into some other options for fuel management. Considering you got yours running with just the map sensor and the big injectors, I think it'll ultimately end up running without a tune, and the only thing I'd be worried about is running lean. I'm not at the point of tuning yet either just figuring everything out a little before I get to it. I think ill end up trying the split second in the end, hoping to get everything as close to plug and play as possible. I ended up getting those injector caps to make them longer too, super happy with them. I'll let you know what I come up with once I get to that point. Still waiting on some parts but it's getting closer 👌
Full price of all done to it please willing to send one out to you
175 to do the work to a good core you send to me or 245 for one that's ready to go.
Hey love the videos
I really want to get a TB done by you but I have a 1995 so it’s the two year odd ball TB
Do you happen to have one?
I don't but there were plenty of OBD1 throttle bodies at the pull your part when I was there yesterday. I can get one.
Have you had someone put one on a 3.9? Would you accept a 3.9 core?
Yes iv had someone put one on a V6. The throttle cable has to be changed to the V8 style or the V6 throttle lever needs swapped onto the V8 throttle body. Last time I did one the guy sent me his V6 and a V8 throttle to do the job. No I won't accept the V6 throttle body as a core.
Nice job, what kind of mill do you have?
IV got a little machine shop mill
Will it really help with a stock engine or just a waste of time or will it help drivablity
I'm really interested in it being done I have a 1996 with the 318 and I'm not sure how I would get money to you
It will help for sure. I will drop a link to my Facebook page in the description. I use PayPal, cash app, and Facebook pay. I'll add my email.too. whatever is easiest for you.
Hey I am unable to go get another throttle body to send in for a core and I drive my truck daily I'm wondering if you can get one and do it and we can work out something and then we will have to get the money to you I have cash app but never used it and I'm not sure what to do ( not to good with this new age stuff yet lol
@@timrosanna596 yeah I can get you a throttle body from pull a part for $60.
@Thomas Beyer ok tell me how mush I need to send you and I'll get it to you
So would it be more for throttle response
It's a small bump over the stock throttle body like 5-10hp but no gains going larger than that. At least that's my experience
I'm not even mad and thank you for making a good detail video keep up the good work and I'm definitely going to stay tuned in hopefully I can get my 2001 Dodge Durango RT back on the road learning a lot off your videos Man definitely appreciate you
@@jferrell-6667 thanks man I appreciate it. Get that thing back on the road!
You still making these bro?
Yeah man I'm still doing them. I charge 175 to do the work to a good core or 250 for one I've already got done and ready
@@thomasbeyer Awesome, I'm going to give my hand at it and if that falls through I'll definitely be shooting ya a message
@@Chippy363636 sounds good buddy
Would you do a throttle body for me?
Yeah it's 175 to do the work to a good core sent to me or 250 for one iv got ready. Iv got one OBD2 ready
Where you located ?
East TN
Thomas, I've got 1 ready to send out to you.
Please contact me for sending my core to You.
Also can you port match a 2 inch aluminum spacer plate to the base of the TB? Best Regards.
Yeah I can do that. Do you have Facebook?
@@thomasbeyer sorry I don't. Do you PayPal account?
@@colbyjarrett925 yes I have PayPal thomas_beyer@ymail is my email
@@thomasbeyer Thomas, sent you my email address, and if it's not there, check your spam folder.
Thanks.
@@colbyjarrett925 not seeing anything did you put ymail? Sometimes people change it to Gmail but it's ymail
Glass bead instead of sand.
🤔 hmmmmmmm.
I want this done how do i contact u