Congratulations Larry on the upgrade. Watched your old vidios & commented on how the "supp-up" B2650 was never going to make it. Looks like it did a lot of work any how. This new rig the 3560 should serve you Guys well. M&R fixed me up with a couple of backhoe buckets for my BH92 as of lately--they are a Good Bunch. Thanks for the great Video Sir and happy safe tractoring.
Hey Larry, Welcome to the club! Purchased my Grand 3650 LE 450 hours ago. You might be interested in what I found in my front end oil change at 400 hours. Seeing what I did scared me. I have installed a single 150ft driveway (removing top soil and laying crusher run). Moving and cutting into rounds logs or trees, and filling/moving IBC totes with the firewood we split. I just started mowing with a used 72” king kutter mower I rebuilt. So overall, based on what I thought I was buying when I moved up from a 2501/4801 open station (initial choice until I sat in the L3560), I’m disappointed that the front end has such dark metal powder wear in it at 400 hours. We’re i to do it again, I would change out the oil in the front end at 200 hours, and at each 200 hours after that. I can’t understand how that much wear can be generated from a 400 hour machine in a single year since new. I opted for about the same items as you. Bringing the total to $52,000 for BH92, 3rd function, SC1072 grapple, defrost side/rear, rubber pads on bh, mechanical thumb, HD round back LA805 Bucket, front/rear lights, right side step/handle, rear wiper. I also got ripped off by my dealer of choice (Whites Farm Supply in central NY) when they dented the hood….. then instead of replacing the hood with a factory hood as agreed, repainted it with a nice orange peel finish (with finger prints to boot) that my L3560 now sports! Incredible…. They replaced the front frame of the tractor because the front right tire would hit the front lower edge of the right FEL support bracket when under load and turning. Apparently there was a boss that was incorrectly machined on that portion of the frame that allowed the axle on that side to move up more than the left side allowing the rubber of the tire to hit the front of the FEL support bracket at the rear of the tire. When they did that they had to disassemble the entire front end of the tractor, including a/c, axel, all components on the front of the engine including cooling/radiator, battery, hood, electrical, FEL, failure to properly reassemble the BH92 when replacing the top end seals in the valve body at 2 hours- I doubt it needed it but they got paid by Kubota to do it so they did) that broke a flex link in the control panel at the valve body at 50 hours from improper assembly…. and much more. I’m still finding things awry loose connections, leaking hydraulic hose connections, belts improperly mounted/tensioned, missing a bolt in the front axle (thank god there are supposed to be 8… I was only missing 1 for 250 hours of use) , a volt that just flips around on the engine withou a clue where it goes or where it came from, paint overspray on internal engine components that the dealer now says I painted myself because the orange peel finish on the hood they replaced was a factory hood, and much much more. It’s amazing how a dealer like that can be Kubota authorized…. All I can say is if it isn’t totally broken, it’s NOT always better to have it fixed. I can say however, that for being a newbie, this machine has performed exceptional well other than those 20 or so issues generated by the dealers inept performance the 3 or 4 times I returned it to them before I realized they were hacks and Kubota didn’t care other than to say take it to a different dealer, we aren’t responsible for issues generated at any given dealership other than warranty issues. I suppose it’s “let the buyer beware”, even if it’s a Kubota Product. Don
I do a full service at 50 hours. This is my 3rd kubota, I do not believe in the modern manuals that suggest a Limited service at 50 hours. In the old days, 50 hours was always to be considered the most critical service done. I do not feel that this has changed, but these manufacturers want to show buyers a lower cost of ownership by eliminating doing a total drain down of the HST, not doing the (very cheap and easy) front axle and differential... so you saved a couple hundred dollars at the 50 hour service. At what cost to long term reliability? Nope, if it can be drained or changed, do it at 50 hours. I'll try to do a video on my 50 hour service this fall/winter and I'm sure I'll make comment if I see anything unusual. Let's both hope for a life long if great reliable service from these machines. These are not inexpensive products, not what I would consider home owner grade or starter units. These are at the small end of what may be used in agricultural settings for profit where the 8N once would have been the go to. Look around today and you 70 year old 8N machines still being bought and sold today and still clicking off hours. I would hope that these may still be clicking off hours decades from now as well.
Wowwwwww Larry! That is a NICE upgrade!!! I like it ALOT! Wish i could upgrade, but its just not in the cards. I see the BOSS (Angel) is out there taken care of things to make sure its done right, lol. You take care brother, and you and your whole family have a very Merry Christmas!
Absolutely it does. It is set in the dash computer, and you simply hit the button to ramp up the RPMs, but hitting the button performs some black magic and does not effect the HST wheel speed. It is a cool feature.
Thank you. I didn't use any computer or fancy camera.... just my Samsung Note 20 phone. I even edited the video, stitched in the still images, added second video, over layer of music and added text boxes in the phone. That pretty much amazed me that Samsung has that much ability packed into your pocket. Imagine 20 years from now....
Don't know who's running that tractor in that pile of rubble but. He sure wouldn't run any of my stuff. Just wondering how long he was going to spin the wheels until he realize nothing was going on. Why do people that have never ran a tractor tried to run a tractor?
I don't know. LE3560 $31,500 LX3310 $29,750 Is this tractor *REALLY* worth $1,750 more? I'm not seeing it. Uglier tractor (over-all appearance) No lights. Cab looks too big. Has that blind spot pillar. RK 37 hp $24,500 longer warrantee. 2 more hp. $7,000 less. Plus loader, brush hog, box scraper, blade= #31,400 Still less
Well... this one gets the front and rear lights, the front and rear wipers, the rear view mirrors, the stereo, the cruise control, the BH92 backhoe, the LA805, 3 point top and tilt, Piranha bar on the light material bucket, 3rd function out front for a grapple and thumb on the backhoe..... and weighs 4200 lbs bare. It's bigger, badder, heavier and more capable in every measurable way than the tiny little LX3310. The 3310 is the same as the B2650 but with a higher pto power output. Comparing the LX3310/B2650 to this is like comparing a 2.7L F150 to a F250 with the 7.3L gas Godzilla engine. If you could actually use one of each, you would laugh at this version of your opinion... they are so insanely different that it's hard to describe. By the way, this one is not $31500.... all done and it the door is $54000 plus another $5900 for 84 months of KTAC. So call it $60k.
@@LarryMusgrave I went off Kubota's website (tractor alone) LE 3560 Limited Edition $31,500 Kubota claims "Limited Edition" (usually means deluxe) on this means LIMITED. As in less. Cheap version stripped of all the shit you claim it has. Not calling you a liar, but you or Kubota ain't being straight. A loader, 3rd valve, grapple, bush hog, finish mower, probably a blade, lights, wipes, and bigger tires (looks like) costs $22,500 more? Cause the tractor Limited Edition is $31,500. Look it up yourself. You wanted bigger, and obviously Kubota. Did you consider MX5400 with cab 54 hp. $37,050???? apps.kubotausa.com/configurator/BuildMyKubota.aspx?pgId=1&bmId=1215&sId=126
@@raymond3803 Okay.... the LE or limited edition in Kubota terms is a cut back model with a $2500 price cut. Neil Messick covers the reality of this, they removed around 800 dollars of simple to replace items and yet reduced the cost by 2500 dollars. My dealer simply ordered the lights, mirrors, cruise switch and rear wiper. The rest of my list is items not in the non LE model, but optional upgrades. So while your correct that an LE doesn't have the lights, mirrors, cruise and whatever.... they are easily ordered. All wiring and computer programming is already there waiting. Plug and play. So mine is equal to a non LE with every luxury, comfort and convenience option added to it as well.
@@LarryMusgrave Second thought/look your tractor is much better looking in the video. Build it on Kubota website, The rear tires are much smaller dia. & narrower. Big gap between fender. Makes whole tractor look out-of-proportion. On website, the little LX's look better. But not in the flesh. You did well. I'm envious. I should have bought this used Kubota B3030 last year. Heat & Air. 2008 (I think) Farmer friend talked me out of it. Never once used PTO or 3-point-hitch (farmer said that was a bad thing) All it ever did was draw-bar pull full dumpsters down hill and empty dumpsters up hill @ KC Royals Kauffman Stadium and KC Chiefs Arrowhead Stadium (both stadiums next door to each other) It never did any playing field work. Just dumpster duty. A hydraulic garbage truck would lift full dumpsters up. Dump them in the hopper. Set empty dumpsters down. Little tractor would tow empty dumpsters back up to each concession stand in the stadiums. Never left outside. Paint was hardly faded. Nice indoor maintenance shed. Tractor was 15 miles from home. Went to take a look. Tractor story was legit. A brand new B2650 was already there as it's replacement. Tractor sold for $6,200. And my farmer friend died last month. Can't even blame him anymore.
Congratulations Larry on the upgrade. Watched your old vidios & commented on how the "supp-up" B2650 was never going to make it. Looks like it did a lot of work any how. This new rig the 3560 should serve you Guys well. M&R fixed me up with a couple of backhoe buckets for my BH92 as of lately--they are a Good Bunch. Thanks for the great Video Sir and happy safe tractoring.
I love kubotas products, and the representatives are very professional. Very nice machine!
Hi Larry and Larry Sr.! Cool piece of equipment.
Hey Larry,
Welcome to the club!
Purchased my Grand 3650 LE 450 hours ago.
You might be interested in what I found in my front end oil change at 400 hours. Seeing what I did scared me. I have installed a single 150ft driveway (removing top soil and laying crusher run). Moving and cutting into rounds logs or trees, and filling/moving IBC totes with the firewood we split.
I just started mowing with a used 72” king kutter mower I rebuilt.
So overall, based on what I thought I was buying when I moved up from a 2501/4801 open station (initial choice until I sat in the L3560), I’m disappointed that the front end has such dark metal powder wear in it at 400 hours.
We’re i to do it again, I would change out the oil in the front end at 200 hours, and at each 200 hours after that. I can’t understand how that much wear can be generated from a 400 hour machine in a single year since new.
I opted for about the same items as you. Bringing the total to $52,000 for BH92, 3rd function, SC1072 grapple, defrost side/rear, rubber pads on bh, mechanical thumb, HD round back LA805 Bucket, front/rear lights, right side step/handle, rear wiper.
I also got ripped off by my dealer of choice (Whites Farm Supply in central NY) when they dented the hood….. then instead of replacing the hood with a factory hood as agreed, repainted it with a nice orange peel finish (with finger prints to boot) that my L3560 now sports!
Incredible…. They replaced the front frame of the tractor because the front right tire would hit the front lower edge of the right FEL support bracket when under load and turning.
Apparently there was a boss that was incorrectly machined on that portion of the frame that allowed the axle on that side to move up more than the left side allowing the rubber of the tire to hit the front of the FEL support bracket at the rear of the tire.
When they did that they had to disassemble the entire front end of the tractor, including a/c, axel, all components on the front of the engine including cooling/radiator, battery, hood, electrical, FEL, failure to properly reassemble the BH92 when replacing the top end seals in the valve body at 2 hours- I doubt it needed it but they got paid by Kubota to do it so they did) that broke a flex link in the control panel at the valve body at 50 hours from improper assembly…. and much more.
I’m still finding things awry loose connections, leaking hydraulic hose connections, belts improperly mounted/tensioned, missing a bolt in the front axle (thank god there are supposed to be 8… I was only missing 1 for 250 hours of use) , a volt that just flips around on the engine withou a clue where it goes or where it came from, paint overspray on internal engine components that the dealer now says I painted myself because the orange peel finish on the hood they replaced was a factory hood, and much much more.
It’s amazing how a dealer like that can be Kubota authorized…. All I can say is if it isn’t totally broken, it’s NOT always better to have it fixed.
I can say however, that for being a newbie, this machine has performed exceptional well other than those 20 or so issues generated by the dealers inept performance the 3 or 4 times I returned it to them before I realized they were hacks and Kubota didn’t care other than to say take it to a different dealer, we aren’t responsible for issues generated at any given dealership other than warranty issues. I suppose it’s “let the buyer beware”, even if it’s a Kubota Product.
Don
I do a full service at 50 hours. This is my 3rd kubota, I do not believe in the modern manuals that suggest a Limited service at 50 hours. In the old days, 50 hours was always to be considered the most critical service done. I do not feel that this has changed, but these manufacturers want to show buyers a lower cost of ownership by eliminating doing a total drain down of the HST, not doing the (very cheap and easy) front axle and differential... so you saved a couple hundred dollars at the 50 hour service. At what cost to long term reliability?
Nope, if it can be drained or changed, do it at 50 hours. I'll try to do a video on my 50 hour service this fall/winter and I'm sure I'll make comment if I see anything unusual.
Let's both hope for a life long if great reliable service from these machines. These are not inexpensive products, not what I would consider home owner grade or starter units. These are at the small end of what may be used in agricultural settings for profit where the 8N once would have been the go to. Look around today and you 70 year old 8N machines still being bought and sold today and still clicking off hours. I would hope that these may still be clicking off hours decades from now as well.
I just bought one but won’t use it much until spring.
Wowwwwww Larry!
That is a NICE upgrade!!! I like it ALOT! Wish i could upgrade, but its just not in the cards.
I see the BOSS (Angel) is out there taken care of things to make sure its done right, lol.
You take care brother, and you and your whole family have a very Merry Christmas!
Thank you very much, and Merry Christmas to you and yours as well!
Does the le come with the throttle up function on the loader handle
Absolutely it does. It is set in the dash computer, and you simply hit the button to ramp up the RPMs, but hitting the button performs some black magic and does not effect the HST wheel speed. It is a cool feature.
Nice video
Thank you. I didn't use any computer or fancy camera.... just my Samsung Note 20 phone. I even edited the video, stitched in the still images, added second video, over layer of music and added text boxes in the phone. That pretty much amazed me that Samsung has that much ability packed into your pocket. Imagine 20 years from now....
Don't know who's running that tractor in that pile of rubble but. He sure wouldn't run any of my stuff. Just wondering how long he was going to spin the wheels until he realize nothing was going on. Why do people that have never ran a tractor tried to run a tractor?
I don't know. LE3560 $31,500 LX3310 $29,750
Is this tractor *REALLY* worth $1,750 more? I'm not seeing it.
Uglier tractor (over-all appearance) No lights. Cab looks too big. Has that blind spot pillar.
RK 37 hp $24,500 longer warrantee. 2 more hp. $7,000 less. Plus loader, brush hog, box scraper, blade= #31,400 Still less
Well... this one gets the front and rear lights, the front and rear wipers, the rear view mirrors, the stereo, the cruise control, the BH92 backhoe, the LA805, 3 point top and tilt, Piranha bar on the light material bucket, 3rd function out front for a grapple and thumb on the backhoe..... and weighs 4200 lbs bare.
It's bigger, badder, heavier and more capable in every measurable way than the tiny little LX3310. The 3310 is the same as the B2650 but with a higher pto power output. Comparing the LX3310/B2650 to this is like comparing a 2.7L F150 to a F250 with the 7.3L gas Godzilla engine. If you could actually use one of each, you would laugh at this version of your opinion... they are so insanely different that it's hard to describe.
By the way, this one is not $31500.... all done and it the door is $54000 plus another $5900 for 84 months of KTAC. So call it $60k.
@@LarryMusgrave I went off Kubota's website (tractor alone) LE 3560 Limited Edition $31,500
Kubota claims "Limited Edition" (usually means deluxe) on this means LIMITED. As in less. Cheap version stripped of all the shit you claim it has. Not calling you a liar, but you or Kubota ain't being straight.
A loader, 3rd valve, grapple, bush hog, finish mower, probably a blade, lights, wipes, and bigger tires (looks like) costs $22,500 more? Cause the tractor Limited Edition is $31,500. Look it up yourself.
You wanted bigger, and obviously Kubota. Did you consider MX5400 with cab 54 hp. $37,050????
apps.kubotausa.com/configurator/BuildMyKubota.aspx?pgId=1&bmId=1215&sId=126
@@raymond3803
Okay.... the LE or limited edition in Kubota terms is a cut back model with a $2500 price cut. Neil Messick covers the reality of this, they removed around 800 dollars of simple to replace items and yet reduced the cost by 2500 dollars. My dealer simply ordered the lights, mirrors, cruise switch and rear wiper.
The rest of my list is items not in the non LE model, but optional upgrades. So while your correct that an LE doesn't have the lights, mirrors, cruise and whatever.... they are easily ordered. All wiring and computer programming is already there waiting. Plug and play.
So mine is equal to a non LE with every luxury, comfort and convenience option added to it as well.
@@LarryMusgrave Second thought/look your tractor is much better looking in the video.
Build it on Kubota website, The rear tires are much smaller dia. & narrower. Big gap between fender. Makes whole tractor look out-of-proportion. On website, the little LX's look better. But not in the flesh. You did well. I'm envious.
I should have bought this used Kubota B3030 last year. Heat & Air. 2008 (I think) Farmer friend talked me out of it. Never once used PTO or 3-point-hitch (farmer said that was a bad thing) All it ever did was draw-bar pull full dumpsters down hill and empty dumpsters up hill @ KC Royals Kauffman Stadium and KC Chiefs Arrowhead Stadium (both stadiums next door to each other) It never did any playing field work. Just dumpster duty. A hydraulic garbage truck would lift full dumpsters up. Dump them in the hopper. Set empty dumpsters down. Little tractor would tow empty dumpsters back up to each concession stand in the stadiums. Never left outside. Paint was hardly faded. Nice indoor maintenance shed. Tractor was 15 miles from home. Went to take a look. Tractor story was legit. A brand new B2650 was already there as it's replacement. Tractor sold for $6,200. And my farmer friend died last month. Can't even blame him anymore.