I just bought a larger property and need to graduate from a BX to a larger tractor. Yesterday I just test drive Kioti, Massey and Kubota. Unfortunately, none of the sales persons were able to describe all the features/buttons on the machines. This is very frustrating and I don't understand why this is prevalent in the tractor industry, car industry, etc. Neil, you always know all the facts about the equipment and do a fantastic job of conveying critical data to help inform you viewers. Your walk thru of the HST Plus in this video, coupled with your related Grand L videos, have helped drive my decision to Kubota L6060. Thank you very much for all of your help!
Again thank you Neil for a very informative video. I love my Grand L4760 after a very small learning curve with the computerized dash I can quickly make my transmission adjustments for my current application wether it be picking up logs with the grapple claw, loading gravel, using the box scraper or blowing snow. The HST is great I don’t see a need or desire to ever go back to a tractor with a manual transmission. I always learn something new watching!
Definitely one of the best videos out there explaining Kubota’s transmission. I am looking to purchase a tractor within the next year, the tractor will be a Kubota. Thanks for the great video!
I love the trans features on these tractors, they really help a lot once you understand how to use them all. The four L4060's we have in our rental fleet are approaching 1000hrs run time with very little problems......zero issues with the engines or smog gear. BTW, these are not exactly new features. The anti stall, HDS, auto throttle and HST response knob are present on our old beat up L3540 and 3940's from almost ten years ago, just in case anyone is shopping for a used tractor(non smog) and like these features.
Great information! There are plenty of people hocking equipment, but being able to show your customer how to use all the features properly is probably just as important as selling them the right machine in the first place. You should always read the manual, but actual demonstrations make it much easier to remember. I'd like to see some videos on responsible usage of 4WD, and why it's important to use enough RPMs and not lug your engine.
Here it is 2021, Is Kubota still the only one with these features? I would say it is the #2 reason I am getting one. #1 is the price, there is a much better ROI with a Kubota than say a John Deere. The only downside of Kubota is how poorly the paint holds up to the sun. I can see that tractor you are on has a lot of paint fade. My 20 YO B2410 has been barn kept so the paint is still orange and matches all over. If I didn't have a barn to store it in, I would be constantly trying to keep it polished and waxed to prevent paint fade.
What I could really use is a lower gear than the low gear on my 38 horsepower Kubota. What would also be useful is a permanent differential lock rather than having to keep your heel on the lever.
I'm looking at a L4760 with hst plus to replace my current gear tractor. This hst plus transmission seems very gadgety to me. I also run a skidsteer, set the rpm and work away and never have any problems stalling the engine. Watching this video makes me think I should look at a different machine
@@MessicksEquip thanks for the note. The dealer also has an mx5800 that briefly looked at . Has that tractor been discontinued and would thst be a suitable alternative?
Love the Grand L4060HST we have and your video showed me a lot of great information that'll help me tailor it to my needs. Thank you Sir. I would like to know if you can change the display km/h to mp/h?
Why do you need 3 transmissions in series? The hst should be fine in any range as long as you throttle up and back off the swash for lower displacement and higher pressure.
I have a 2007 New Holland TC35DA. It’s an HST with only 2 ranges instead of 3, but each range has a high and low. How is the high and low any different then what I have? Or is it just a matter of it being controlled by a computer?
Messick Farm Equipment can the dpf be deleted? isf you just take it off will the tractor come up with a bunch of codes and not start, without some sort of "tune"
+S Winn I've never heard of anyone who's done it. Nor can I think of a situation where it would actually be a good idea. We simply don't have problems with these things very often.
Would like a video that shows you how to change the display on grand 60 models to display gal and mph vs litters and kilometres per hr i figured it out from another video but didn't explain what other letters where to change settings and why i would want to change them if you could explain that in a video that would be great
2 reasons. 1. Traditionally the brakes are always been on the right, so if you are used to using your right foot to stop, you'll still find the brakes in time. 2. The real reason some tractors, especially the older ones with a non-independant pto, either still have a real transmission clutch or come available with a gear transmission with a clutch so for simplicity in manufacturing, the brake pedals remain on the right side. If you notice, those tractors that are HST (BX, B, Grand L) only, have the left side brake pedals where those that have additional transmission options (L & MX) will have right side brakes.
Response control looks really dangerous. Should just have an adjustable damper on the pedal so that youcan force a stop by pushing the treadle to the center position. Personally, I'd rather have a shuttle selector on the loader stick and a foot throttle and inching pedal.
Seem like going through all the functions is very cumbersome you'd think they would have come up with a more simpler way like buttons to push to turn the features on and of
I have the 3540 version of this with a cab. Going to replace it with the same version. Maybe go into the upper 40 hp range. Ordered mine in 2008 and has 570 hrs on it. Has been flawless. Very little seems to have changed. Apparently they are sticking with what works. Good to see that.
I own a 35 year old hydro Linde forklift, ive been having hydraulic problems for the last 5 years, lots of leaks too, I really wonder about the longevity of these hydro tractors, I'll stick with my geared machinery.
Fascinating from a tech perspective, but not on a practical one. 1. Instead of working, the operator has his head buried in a menu trying to figure out what he wants. Low productivity. 2. Great if the tractor is stored in a hermetically sealed barn, but more likely it will spend time in a shed or even outdoors. All tractors become home to rodents. All these features require electronics, which require cabling. Mice (and rats and squirrels) love to chew cabling. As an electronics troubleshooter I would dread having to diagnose rodent-chewed cables, or have to pay the hourly rate to do the same. K.I.S.S.
To a point, your right. This system has been out for ten years now and proven to be super reliable. All the doodads ate usually a set and forgot thing.. except maybe auto throttle.
Love it on my 6060. No auto throttle when doing pto work like bush hogging. I mow steep hills and the stall guard is priceless. Nothing like the engine shutting off when you need it. Stallguard diverts power to keep control within limits.
Not needed, but really nice. Although HST+ is technically even more complications layered on top of an already "remote" (compared mechanical gears) hydrostatic, in use it feels like you are getting a tiny bit of the "mechanicalness" back, compared to standard hydros. It's currently confined to the Grand Ls and TLBs as far as I know. Would be really nice if Kubota would offer it on some deluxe version of Ls and Bs as well.
Also, as an older operator, these functions add to safety. I hated to give up my gear driven trusty Ford 1920 but as my reaction time diminishes, having these features gives me many more years of safe operation!
I just bought a larger property and need to graduate from a BX to a larger tractor. Yesterday I just test drive Kioti, Massey and Kubota. Unfortunately, none of the sales persons were able to describe all the features/buttons on the machines. This is very frustrating and I don't understand why this is prevalent in the tractor industry, car industry, etc. Neil, you always know all the facts about the equipment and do a fantastic job of conveying critical data to help inform you viewers. Your walk thru of the HST Plus in this video, coupled with your related Grand L videos, have helped drive my decision to Kubota L6060. Thank you very much for all of your help!
Again thank you Neil for a very informative video. I love my Grand L4760 after a very small learning curve with the computerized dash I can quickly make my transmission adjustments for my current application wether it be picking up logs with the grapple claw, loading gravel, using the box scraper or blowing snow. The HST is great I don’t see a need or desire to ever go back to a tractor with a manual transmission. I always learn something new watching!
Definitely one of the best videos out there explaining Kubota’s transmission. I am looking to purchase a tractor within the next year, the tractor will be a Kubota. Thanks for the great video!
man this is very extra credit had no idea kubota was that intuitive about tractor life. thanks Neil.
I love the trans features on these tractors, they really help a lot once you understand how to use them all. The four L4060's we have in our rental fleet are approaching 1000hrs run time with very little problems......zero issues with the engines or smog gear. BTW, these are not exactly new features. The anti stall, HDS, auto throttle and HST response knob are present on our old beat up L3540 and 3940's from almost ten years ago, just in case anyone is shopping for a used tractor(non smog) and like these features.
Great information! There are plenty of people hocking equipment, but being able to show your customer how to use all the features properly is probably just as important as selling them the right machine in the first place. You should always read the manual, but actual demonstrations make it much easier to remember. I'd like to see some videos on responsible usage of 4WD, and why it's important to use enough RPMs and not lug your engine.
Just drove an HST and MX 60 HP series and this explains the differences we saw when driving.
Thanks Neil - I find your videos very helpful - great job as always.
Terrific presentation. Kudos.
Fantastic video, thank you.
Great presentation thanks Neil
Here it is 2021, Is Kubota still the only one with these features? I would say it is the #2 reason I am getting one. #1 is the price, there is a much better ROI with a Kubota than say a John Deere. The only downside of Kubota is how poorly the paint holds up to the sun. I can see that tractor you are on has a lot of paint fade. My 20 YO B2410 has been barn kept so the paint is still orange and matches all over. If I didn't have a barn to store it in, I would be constantly trying to keep it polished and waxed to prevent paint fade.
I'm not aware that "Mean Green" has all or any of these features. One reason I bought "Orange"! What great technology!
What I could really use is a lower gear than the low gear on my 38 horsepower Kubota.
What would also be useful is a permanent differential lock rather than having to keep your heel on the lever.
I'm looking at a L4760 with hst plus to replace my current gear tractor. This hst plus transmission seems very gadgety to me.
I also run a skidsteer, set the rpm and work away and never have any problems stalling the engine.
Watching this video makes me think I should look at a different machine
If you don't want the gadgets, the L4701 or MX5400 are the same size tractor without the gizmo's. Drive them both, see what you think.
@@MessicksEquip thanks for the note.
The dealer also has an mx5800 that briefly looked at . Has that tractor been discontinued and would thst be a suitable alternative?
@@spyderyates4587 The current new model is MX5400 or MX6000
Love the Grand L4060HST we have and your video showed me a lot of great information that'll help me tailor it to my needs. Thank you Sir. I would like to know if you can change the display km/h to mp/h?
Mitchell Hahn you have to hold button on dash and turn key to on position go to J and select it will change it to gal and mph
Are all of these settings a set and forget? Or do you have to reprogram any or all of these settings each time the tractor is started?
+JJ Hanson for the most part, set and forget
Probably default if the battery is disconnected
That’s awesome I want one now
I have a question. This tractor have a auto pilot o Cruise. Control
Why do you need 3 transmissions in series? The hst should be fine in any range as long as you throttle up and back off the swash for lower displacement and higher pressure.
Different people have different preferences. Also some applications it's not ideal for.
Does stalling a tractor like that cause damage over time to the transmission?
Maybe it was a bad demo but it seemed like the tractor just sat there for like 5 seconds before doing the auto shift. That would drive me nuts.
It probably has to build up some hydraulic pressure before the auto shift engages
Nice !
NEAIL
YOU WANNA SELL THAT OLD FORD CAB AND CHASSIS IN THE BACKGROUND?
How do you turn on and off Stall Guard?
The current models there is no button. It's always on.
Great video!
I have a 2007 New Holland TC35DA. It’s an HST with only 2 ranges instead of 3, but each range has a high and low. How is the high and low any different then what I have? Or is it just a matter of it being controlled by a computer?
Its very much like your New Holland. That's a feature that only this series Kubota, and that older servies New Holland have had.
Black smoke? Is this machine equipped with a DPF?
Ben k might be deleted.
FishFind3000 I don't think a dealer would do that
+Ben k yea. Kinda a funny statement in retrospect
Messick Farm Equipment can the dpf be deleted? isf you just take it off will the tractor come up with a bunch of codes and not start, without some sort of "tune"
+S Winn I've never heard of anyone who's done it. Nor can I think of a situation where it would actually be a good idea. We simply don't have problems with these things very often.
Would like a video that shows you how to change the display on grand 60 models to display gal and mph vs litters and kilometres per hr i figured it out from another video but didn't explain what other letters where to change settings and why i would want to change them if you could explain that in a video that would be great
how did you do it?
Did anyone se the falling star at 1:35?
It actually takes a curved path.
With time I think I would enjoy these features. One of the things I never understood was why is the brakes on the right side on some of the tractors.
2 reasons. 1. Traditionally the brakes are always been on the right, so if you are used to using your right foot to stop, you'll still find the brakes in time.
2. The real reason some tractors, especially the older ones with a non-independant pto, either still have a real transmission clutch or come available with a gear transmission with a clutch so for simplicity in manufacturing, the brake pedals remain on the right side. If you notice, those tractors that are HST (BX, B, Grand L) only, have the left side brake pedals where those that have additional transmission options (L & MX) will have right side brakes.
Response control looks really dangerous. Should just have an adjustable damper on the pedal so that youcan force a stop by pushing the treadle to the center position. Personally, I'd rather have a shuttle selector on the loader stick and a foot throttle and inching pedal.
It has brakes 👍
Seem like going through all the functions is very cumbersome you'd think they would have come up with a more simpler way like buttons to push to turn the features on and of
They had buttons on some older models, but as more buttons were added these were rolled into the dash.
that's alot, give me simplicity.
It is a lot. Really a lot. Sure is cool, though.
Simplicity hydrostatics are pretty good
I have the 3540 version of this with a cab. Going to replace it with the same version. Maybe go into the upper 40 hp range. Ordered mine in 2008 and has 570 hrs on it. Has been flawless. Very little seems to have changed. Apparently they are sticking with what works. Good to see that.
I own a 35 year old hydro Linde forklift, ive been having hydraulic problems for the last 5 years, lots of leaks too, I really wonder about the longevity of these hydro tractors, I'll stick with my geared machinery.
... as you may guess, things have improved in the last 4 decades 😉
wow so much stuff unreal
Seems like something else to tear up.
Which models have this?
+Camaro Love grand L series
Is that for any tractor that starts with L ? any year or just 2016 ?
+Camaro Love lxx40 and lxx60
Found it Thanks ,
www.kubota.com/product/LSeries/L60.aspx
Fascinating from a tech perspective, but not on a practical one.
1. Instead of working, the operator has his head buried in a menu trying to figure out what he wants. Low productivity.
2. Great if the tractor is stored in a hermetically sealed barn, but more likely it will spend time in a shed or even outdoors. All tractors become home to rodents. All these features require electronics, which require cabling. Mice (and rats and squirrels) love to chew cabling. As an electronics troubleshooter I would dread having to diagnose rodent-chewed cables, or have to pay the hourly rate to do the same. K.I.S.S.
To a point, your right. This system has been out for ten years now and proven to be super reliable. All the doodads ate usually a set and forgot thing.. except maybe auto throttle.
They should be using rodent guard insulation on the wiring. The soy based insulation typically used is tastefully attractive to rodents.
Love it on my 6060. No auto throttle when doing pto work like bush hogging. I mow steep hills and the stall guard is priceless. Nothing like the engine shutting off when you need it. Stallguard diverts power to keep control within limits.
I got a john deere from the 1970s with hydraulic split gears
How much is this transmission option?
+John Cotton not optional. It's standard.
Messick Farm Equipment does it come with a manual transmission (non-HST)
+S Winn it's an option yes
To much going on and to much to break down! Just give me the basic HST with Low Medium and high level.
thats available in other models.
dpf sucks, also anti stall used to be how good of an operator you where and how fast you could hit the clutch
Modern common rail engines have no torque at low revs. My diesel car is useless at low revs.
Man, that is a clunky interface to control those features. Get a software guy to redesign it.
It is made to be simple, work outside, and work well for many many years. A fancy iphone interface seems nice, but the test of time reveals all.
For sure. Too much computer bs to put on a tractor
What a bunch of electronic BS.
Why is all this crap on a tractor? None of it is needed. The engineers at kubota are OVERthinking things.
Not needed, but really nice. Although HST+ is technically even more complications layered on top of an already "remote" (compared mechanical gears) hydrostatic, in use it feels like you are getting a tiny bit of the "mechanicalness" back, compared to standard hydros. It's currently confined to the Grand Ls and TLBs as far as I know. Would be really nice if Kubota would offer it on some deluxe version of Ls and Bs as well.
Also, as an older operator, these functions add to safety. I hated to give up my gear driven trusty Ford 1920 but as my reaction time diminishes, having these features gives me many more years of safe operation!
If you're doing contract work with it, you may think differently