$5000 PRICE DIFFERENCE! KUBOTA L3560 VS JOHN DEERE 3039R
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- Let's look at the John Deere 3039R in comparison to the Kubota Grand L3560, because a customer is trying to choose between them. We'll do some spec comparison and a price comparison and I'll tell you what I recommended to him at the end.
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Owning both JD and Kubota right now, love my JD 2210 that I’ve owned for 18 years. It’s been awesome. However, what steered me into Kubota for my farm tractor that I just bought, knowing that JD still has a ton of litigation about right to repair and back end costs of service/parts. My family farms with JD for the last 30 years. What they have to pay for parts for the simplest of things is just crazy high. Thankfully, they are able to do a majority of their own work or have non-JD shops that are able to handle things they aren’t able to.
Frankly, I was put off by 3 different JD dealers who couldn’t even be bothered to give me an understandable quote and there was no dealing on price. Kubota dealer, on the other hand, sat down with me over lunch on his dime for over 4 hours to get me into a tractor that could cover my immediate, mid-term, and long term needs. Plus the deal was more than fair and you can’t beat their terms and insurance.
Really it’s what your viewer is comfortable with. I’d sacrifice a few small things to buy from a trustworthy dealer who is open, honest, trustworthy and available for after the sale support.
The whole right to repair thing with Deere was a deal breaker for me and I worked for green and yellow Deere dealerships.
I do believe the Right to repair thing has been settled and won by consumers. However like many others I’m sure, it’s left a bad taste in my mouth for anything Deere. Just goes to show you how far they are willing to go for profits only! It’s about the principle in the whole thing to me win or loose! I won’t buy another new deere anything ever! I’d rather Buy Red or Blue or even a TYM
I have a stake of ownership in my family’s farm. There are a lot of places like where my family farm is at where the local JD dealer is literally the only brand available within 70-100 miles. Using strong arm tactics when you also have a monopoly in areas like that is just sickening. Especially when you have a crop that needs to be harvested NOW but have broken equipment.
It is absolutely crazy how much those big ag machines cost these days. We buy them used with warranty and swap them out once they hit around 3000 hours.
When I was a farm kid in the 80s, everyone had Allis Chalmers in my area and repairs were handled by the farmers. It’s crazy how quickly things got so locked down and proprietary with John Deere.
I’m actually a Software Engineer for a living and in my younger days did plenty of ECU flashing/tuning (among other things) on cars I owned. There’s just no good reason for JD to lock down everything other than absolute greed.
@@bearkawiboy6246 there was actually a ruling last week in US District court in Illinois that ruled against JD’s motion to toss the suite with the judge allowing the suit to continue. It has not been resolved at all and there are several suits still pending in several state courts across the country arguing against JD’s proprietary issues against state laws on warranties, repairs ect.
It will probably be another few years before things are truly settled.
For me they are both great. As you mentioned, dealer service (and friendliness) is everything!
i got the L3560 limited for about 39k new in 2023. very happy with it. biggest difference that took me that way was the cab seemed a lot wider. i really like the 6 speed with the hi/low to be able to shift on the fly. doing chores around the neighborhood, lifting and moving 1000 pound logs up and down the road, you dont want to have to come to a complete stop to shift. personal story……i live in kentucky, almost no salt or snow. i was up in northern Michigan almost up to the UP. every cherry farm had a kubota. it wasn’t even close. probably 10 to 1. i dont know if the extra 300 pounds of steel means they last longer with salt or they handle cold weather better or better reliably or but if your going to only have 1 tractor, it seems to be a lot of orange out there.
How is the kubota loader controls vs the 3R cab series? I’ve had (2) 3046R’s and the loader controls are not smooth.
I have a question i know you sell ssqa to jdqa adapter but do they make one that goes the other way. When you have more attachments the more it makes sense to stick with the same color
I have a JD, but if I could find a Kubota in as good condition and at as great of a price, I'd -almost- trade, but would probably try to buy the Kubota and keep the JD too My first tractor was a compact Kubota, and they're built like tanks. I really like my little JD and don't want to part w/it either. So, probably no help from me, lol, but I Ibelieve you gave him the right advice.
I was waiting for you to do the Tim Allen grunt after the “more power” comment! 😂Those versa-forks are calling me but I have a set of Deere forks. 😢
The dealer is the key
Thanks for the video
Actual pricing depends greatly on the dealer. When I was looking last spring (2022), no Kubota dealer I visited (at least six) was giving ANY discount off of list price at all. Nothing. Nada. To a person, they insisted that the Kubota rebate was the "discount." I was ready to buy an L3901 under those conditions from a dealer about an hour away, who had a new one with 0.9 hours on the clock. Then my wife suggested, just for "completeness", we check out the Deere dealer near where we live. We did, and they quoted a 3038E and a 3039R with about a 12% discount off of list, in addition to whatever Deere itself was giving (0% financing, rebates, etc.). I then called a Deere dealer further away, and they quoted the same machines at list. Ended up with a 3039R newly delivered off the factory truck. For me, the lesson was not to restrict yourself to one brand only, and visit as many dealers as is feasible.
What to you think of kioti tractors? There is a dealership a couple miles from my house. To my uneducated eye they look ok
Good choice Courtney! A slam dunk no- brainer this time.
Have both JD & Kubota dealer support nearby. I used to want a JD but for the price and the fact that Kubota has the skid steer quick attach makes me think I could deal with their improved treadle pedal.
Comparing specs they are virtually the same with some small wins going both ways.
3 items I would look at are drive them both to sense comfort and ergonomics. (Like the hydro pedals). Then I would look at price, lastly I would look at quick attach system. It’s a lot easier to find or rent standard skid steer quick attach than it is jd ones
I didnt know they made tractors in other colors but green.
It is time to get out into and see the world around you
Think Safety when you see Orange people can see it better
Are they both made in the USA.
The fact that Kabota does not make a belly mower for the L series tractor is what steered me towards the deer. It’s nice being able to mow and use your box. Great without having to swap stuff around.
I just think the 3R and Grand L are too heavy to mow with a belly mower. Especially if you weight tires with ballast. You can get a mid mount PTO on the Grand L, but i figured it is for people that will use a front end snow blower.
That’s a big tractor to use a belly mower, how big is the mower deck?
It’s a 72 inch mower deck and I don’t have a nice yard. It’s primarily used for cleaning up leaves and knocking down weeds quickly.
When my father was looking for a 1025r one dealer just 30 mins away was $1500 cheaper and the other dealer was closer but wouldn't budge on price even knowing "I can drive 30 mins away and get the same tractor for$1500 less" and the cheaper dealer threw in a weight box, does definitely help shopping around. Just watched an Auction with tractor time with Tim and Deere 4720 with 8000hrs just went for $20,000 and a Kubota 5740 with 2000hrs went for $23,000. $3000 difference for a few less horsepower and 6000 less hrs seems insane. My grandfather had a Deere for the farm and my dad currently has a 1023 that has been great but people see that green and are willing to shell out the extra green. Just can see that much of a price difference for a name or brand.
Two good, comfortable machines. The next generations are going to need to step the game up, however; Kioti is right there, and TYM/Branson, and LS have really put a lot into ergonomics in the last decade. They're going to need project a strong image of superior confort and luxury if they want to stay at their price points.
I like going to the forums specifically for what I'm wanting to buy. Read, research and ask questions. You still have to learn to sift through the fan boy information. But as far as quickly getting to know intimately a product or activity you won't find better information in my opinion.
I agree, lots of good info on forums
I should have said youtube videos like yours are great also. Sorry about that. There really are great youtube channels.
We have one of each on our little cattle ranch and there’s no comparison. The Kabota is way better.
Personally, it’s just easier to drive, feels like it has a little bit more power, and is far easier to do repairs. We’ve had John Deere tractors, most of my life, and I’ve always loved them, but this Kabota is just awesome! Way cheaper to get replacement parts too.
Interesting, are those dealer quoted prices, when I cross shopped them the list price of the John Deere was certainly more but they also discounted much more than Kubota would and then ended up being very similar in price.
This will greatly vary by dealer...if I recall, I mention in this video trying to get multiple quotes from various dealers. It can be surprising how much the same tractor will vary in price. Geographic location matters too.
@@GoodWorksTractors Yes certainly helps in my area where they are near each other and almost everyone shops both so they are very competitive with each other and you really end up buying on feature differences and how much you like the dealer.
For me I do not want a direct injection with a ecu on my 40 to 50 hp tractor, it’s bad enough that they have a particulate filter. It’s going to be a Branson 20 series for me.
Kubota all the way!
Thinking a lot about Kiot trators
Can’t do the treadle pedal. It’s a hard no!
Gimme the Kubota and the $6k!
I have A 2007( bought new) L3240 with loader and its been a great little all around tractor. I compered it to jd during my selection process and wasn't impressed and still not. Its all steel and solid. The Deeres just feel flimsy. Now im even more shocked at the current model tractors including Kubota with all that plastic. But I would still go Orange.
If considering a 39hp JD, then compare it to the Kubota Grand L 4060 instead of the 3560. Exact same tractor just a more even HP comparison. Then the Kubota wins almost across the board spec wise
I do have 1 Caveat, on this. If he is looking for a PTO Generator, then the JD, will be the winner. You need right around 32 PTO HP, to run one. So, if that is one of the things he's looking for.
is the GrandL3560 comparable to the Kioti 3520CK?
If you aren't colour blind going into the purchase process, the 'right' tractor will always become evident.
We are deere for everything.
Dealer is great as well just minutes for us.
Our farm equipment was deere and now our construction equipment is deere.
When we need parts we never have to wait more than a day.
On our 4066r i really like the cruise control feature.
Deere all the way.
I have owned a L 3560 for 7 years, 1700 hrs, grins every time I use it.
Yes you should use Kioti tractors in these opinions..... 😮😅😅
And that’s why I went with TYM. 400 hours on it now and haven’t had an issue.
Deer only
The one thing you did not mention was a dealer comparison...distance, reputation etc. I purchased a JD because of the dealer service and location to my farm. That was in 2007 and I have been pleased with the performance and amazed at the current value of my tractor.
I’d go with that 3039R. It’s a better cab, easier loader removal, that 3rd function is super useful. You can flip the rims on the 3039R and it will be substantially wider. The only big problem with the 3039R ….is that damn cable to valve system on their loader. It’s terrible. That JDQA is way better than SSQA. It’s simple and requires zero maintenance. The JD also has split pedals. So much better. It’s really no contest for this match up imo.
The difference is like a Harley vs Indian.
KUBOTA is the best. Try it and see..........
Thanks for the Bible Verse.
5 Grand is 5 Grand, i
Kubota is headquartered in Japan. John Deere is headquartered in Illinois. End of story
Grand L3560 limited edition owner here with rear blade (snow plowing) land plane, pallet forks, LA555 with Q/A, 1860 rotary cutter, roto tiller, seed bed roller, pto chipper,
600 foot gravel driveway, 20 acre property, property mant. and deer habitat hobby.
Only "con" is i have to put a weight on the seat while running the chipper.... yes i could install a better switch for that. My property is mostly flat.... so the lower H.P. is fine. HST plus trans is awesome, love the 2 ranges inside of L-M-H. Yes I would recomend this tractor.
You can flip the seat up onto the steering wheel to run your chipper. I also have a Grand L3560 with a Wallenstein Chipper.
@@mttrapper thanks for the tip.
@@juleswinnfield826 I also found my 800 lb chipper is a great counter weight if I'm moving heavy loads of logs with my LA805 loader.
I have a Kioti 2610 and it out does both of those tractors , for less money
Im not sure about the new Grand L"s but my 3830 has adjustable width rear 2 peice wheels. You can swap the front tires side to side to get a wider or narrower frontend.
Pros on kubota 1. Skidsteer quick attach because if you swap to a different brand later most other use the same quick attach system. 2. Don't have to deal with right to repair. 3. Kubota makes their own tractors.
Cons on kubota they are a Japanese company.
John deere I really don't see any pros personally.
Cons on John deere 1. Right to repair. 2. John deere quick attach only works on John deere. 3. John deere don't make their own small tractors.
In today's market I would also look at kioti and tym tractors. Dependable, parts availability, dealer availability for your area and price. I feel like these 2 will also be around for a long time.
John Deere does make their own small tractors and have for years now! They source the engines from Yanmar only.
JD pros : 1 = ergonomics and easy-to-hook-unhook implements such as backhoe, autoconnect mower etc.
2 = best resale value in the market
3 = parts availability for decades
4 = aftermarket options and upgrades
JD make their own tractors except the engine which is Yanmar, one the best engine makers in the world. What's wrong with that?
Right to repair isn't really and issue here, almost all customers repair themselves.
@@jean-philippegagnon9189 except for the farmers that feed America. They get stuck with having to have a dealer come out and reset computers because a sensor went out and they replaced it. If they are lucky enough to get the john deere computer program it cost them dearly. It's just like the democrats in office don't care about you or this country as long as there getting rich and telling you what to do their happy.
Kioti is better then both tractors
I love my Grand L and for the Deere tractors they seem to be very cheaply made. Buckets bending very easily, think quality is very poor in the last ten years.
We have a 3039R and it isn’t cheaply made at all
Anything less than 100hp isn't even a JD. Mostly yanmar, but maybe other foreign engines also. Maybe it's time that JD go out of business. There's many reasons why Kubota is now a widely known name. When my local JD went from family owned to corporate owned, they finally lost my interest in doing business.
You are spewing false statements that you know nothing about. JD compact tractors have not been mainly Yanmar tractors for decades. The 100hp statement is not true either. The most 4720’s used a Deere engine. Sure most Deere compacts use a Yanmar engine that has been a riven engine. No different than Dodgecfiesel trucks using a Cummins engine. Do your research before running your fingers….
When I know next to nothing about something, i don't speak. You should learn to do the same
They only use Yanmar engines. John Deere literally works with Yanmar to design the engines. Plus, the 4 series and up all use John Deere engines. John Deere makes their own tractors in Georgia
If you buy John Deere you buy American and support American workers. If you buy Kubota you are supporting Japan and Japan workers
John Deere is made all over the world with the cheapest labor they can find. They use engines from Cummins, Yanmar, Kawasaki and any other Japanese engines they can find and spray green paint on it. Being color blind can be expensive.
@@charliehargrave7458 not in the US they use union labor. They have several plants in the United States for the tractors they sell here. The reason the have plants all over the world is because John Deere is sold all over the world. Born American, Buy American, Be American
Hopefully you understand that Kubota actually built a really big plant in the United States in Georgia? They are union as well. I went past it for the last couple of years headed to hunting camp.
Just pointing this out. JD has also chosen to build with lesser materials on their sub compact and compact lines too. My 2210 has a cast iron rear end from 2005. However, what they are using now - it ain’t cast iron.
Yanmar and Kawasaki are among the best engines out there. What's wrong with using them? @@charliehargrave7458
I wont support any american union. Unions are for demorats.