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On the subject of ROI. I bought a 3250.00 fish finder setup. There is no justification for that except I am 60 I have the funds and that's what I wanted. My wife asked how are you going to catch enough fish to justify that. I told her I won't but they will taste better. She is still with me that's true love.
With that set up you could find spying subs. To help your country to. Tell her it's better to find lost ship wrecks hunt for lost treasure 😆 There is nothing like a good fish finder wish I could afford one like that I hope your enjoying it.
It’s already brought you $3,250.00 in enjoyment. You wanted it, and you’re happy. That’s what’s important. It makes you happy. Sometimes you can’t put a price tag on happiness....especially these days when there is too much to be unhappy about. I have memories of my very first fly Rod and reel I bought 34 years ago, i spent over $1k on it and I still own it....I have decades of memories attached to that Hardy Rod setup. Now if I could only say I didn’t buy any other tackle...well.
Higher-end doesn't mean expensive. Try the IM8 Rods from Lew's and tell me it's not just as sensitive and powerful as other "High-End" rods. They range from about $70-$130
Having a good rod is definitely a must, but one of my favorite rods is a $40 Ugly Stik. I started tournament fishing when I was 15 and am 35 now. My Ugly Stik rod has won me and placed me into the money in a ton of local tournaments. But it is a technique specific rod for me and I only use it for one thing and it is always tied on.
Can’t beat a ugly stick. I use it for everything. I love to get some of the better pretty rods but I will by good bait caster and jus throw it on a ugly stick
I have a 50 dollar rod and a 30 dollar reel. I'm 17 and I use to binge alot rods then broken down. Now I just keep the same 80 buck setup that I love, I thank Jesus for everything!! 😊
My fishing gear philosophy “good ain’t cheap, cheap ain’t good” - I really liked your point on breaking the cost down by the expected use over the year. When you think of it that way, a dollar a day is nothing. Totally worth it, quality gear that will last those 200 days each year is always worth it. Again great points and vid man!!
Totally agree with you on this topic. I'm pretty new at fishing but over the last year I have noticed the difference between cheap rods and the more expensive ones. Great video keep up the good work.
Absolutely explained, you don't have to build the arsenal at one time. Buy it piece by piece, great advice. I'm 47, it took my nearly 5 years to build mine.
My fishing buddy bought me a Quantum Pulse Bait caster reel. I have never used a baitcaster reel before. It was a great cheap reel to start with $34.00. I then bought a Ugly Stick medium heavy baitcaster rod. To complete the combo. Fished all 2019 with this combo. Started out with 12 pd test. Then switched to 20 pound braid. Learning to fish a baitcaster was really fun. Caught 4 and a 5 pounder Largemouth Bass on two casts back to back with a Green Pumpkin Senko Texas rigged. So I guess this combo was $75.00. Shawn
BINGO!!! The most important thing when it comes to fishing is knowing how to present lures and knowing how and when to set the hook. I started fishing with my uncle when I was about 7 and we used soda can with mono wrapped around and pre-rigged plastic worm setups and we'd catch fish. Once I graduated to a Rod & Reel all the knowledge I'd amassed made it easier for me to catch fish.
@@theINQBS I started with a can also. Then to a Zebco 202 reel and rod to a short handled Ugly Stick medium heavy with a Zebco 33. Spin rod and reel to a Quantum Pulse Bait caster rod and reel. To a Quantum ACCURIST PT S3 and Berkely Cherry wood medium heavy. Just this week. Shawn
Thanks Chad for your insight. I’m new to the sport and it can be overwhelming the cost of everything to get started in kayak fishing, from the kayak to the depth finder to all the gear you need. Then you see anglers who are taking 12-14 $400 dollar rod setups with them. I’m hoping to start with 3 decent rods and hopefully build from there as I gain experience. Thanks again for your insight.
This was a perfect video and perfect timing. Fellas and ladies show this video to who ever you giving your Christmas list too and they ask why the Rod & Reel or any fishing equipment you asking for is so expensive. And why you need it. Just showed my wife this video and was thr easiest break down and even better then I tried to explain to her why I need a 300 combo. Thank you @Chadhoover great timing, great video
Beginners should always start cheap so they know what they want in their upgraded gear. Too many kids these days are suckered into dropping $200 on something they know nothing about.
100% agree, After starting fishing KBF tournaments, I started to see everything differently, and in a year I had to upgrade all my entire arsenal to a little expensive equipments, now I see things differently according to the needs that have emerged on the way. And thanks to the KBF community in debates about this topic I find brands that I didn't even know and finally help me to take decisions in this matter. Thanks Chad 👍
Thank you for the instructional video's. These are helpful. I feel that the longer I fish the more there is to learn. Please keep these type of video's coming!
I was introduced to JB custom rods and can never go back. They don't break the bank for me at 200 bucks and up but my god, the sensitivity is out of this world!
Great advice and insight. I agree with the return on investment principle. Does a person need expensive equipment to have fishing sucess or enjoyment, no, absolutely not. However, like anything a person is passionate about, they ultimately put a price on their own gear, meaning how much they want to spend and what that is worth to them. Really enjoying this mini series of rod / reel vidoes you have put together. Appreciate your time and effort.
I personally believe in fishing you really do get what you pay for. I’m never gonna chastise anybody for spending their hard earned money on something they want. My favorite rod in my arsenal is my G Loomis NRX. Yeah it’s really expensive but as far as the advantages I think they outweigh the cons. Sensitivity, action and the most underrated part of a rod, the lightness of it aiding arm fatigue
I agree 100 man. I've got an nrx paired with a shimano stradic FL and that rod is in my hand 80% of the time because the drop shot flat out catches fish on the Guadalupe river I fish. I tell people to try a 100 rod then put my nrx in their hand and the difference is night and day. I find myself trying to set the hook alot because of all the ticking on the end of the line lol
TEXAS RIGGED Mine too. That NRX seriously feels like a feather in your hands and the sensitivity there isn’t a rod on the market IMO that competes. I live in Georgia and everybody down here loves Duckett rods but I’m telling you I let people use my G Loomis rods and they make those white rods look like Walmart rods lol
For most setups my threshold is 130-200 for a reel and same for a rod, But now having 15 casting and 3 spinning setups im going to save up and get a dedicated big swimbait setup to throw baits up to 4-6 oz. Have one for smaller 1-3.5 baits but need to upgrade so i can start throwing 8" hudds and big jig hook baits. I figure a lews superduty wide and a 200-300$ rod should get the job done effectively.
Just got back from my seventh Amazon trip with a Lews SD Wide Speed Spool that is used for big woodchoppers to save the more expensive reels from the abuse. It's a brute, the only thing I don't like is the round grips.
Nice coverage. Makes a lot of sense in how you described it. Like the theory of if you can pay for it in a year with how many times you us it. I spend a lot on my frog rods because I fish frogs a lot.
Yes, if you fish enough the rods more worth it then the expensive reel.. but both are nicer. For the most part you what you pay for. The 200 is the good price point before going higher while keeping good quality and performance! Great vid chad
Awesome point about your rod/reel in regard to fishing technique. I've got a few nice rod/reel setups totaling $250 but I also have a Cabela's Whopping Stick I use for topwater.
Just wanted to say thanks to Chad Hoover for the great videos and keep them coming. 2019 was my first year fishing in the KBF and I only did a few state challenges but I learned so much already from that experience, your videos, and also the KBF community in general. I plan on fishing a lot more KBF events in 2020 and was able to use the sales on black Friday to stock up on a lot of gear I needed both to outfit my new Bonafide kayak and to get rods and reels. I look at the purchases I made as investments because I plan on taking kayak bass fishing pretty seriously starting in 2020 so although I spent a lot of money particularly on rods and reels recently I believe it was a worthwhile investment.
Just use something that performs and is comfortable to fish with. I'm just as satisfied with my chinese rods (they were selected craefully, I don't buy crap just because it's cheap) as with the more expensive ones from local fishing stores. I believe your after all the tackle that brings the fish, other than that, buy rods you can execute your techniques with.
I have a $20 price limit on my entire setup. I don't ever get bites anymore because I don't have access. Bank fishing crappy spots is my mo and I love fishing either way., and when I do get a hit, it's really exciting.
I really like what you had to say. Makes perfect sense. I personally would rather get the best I can afford without being in debt. If that means saving up for 6 months to get that $3-400 combo then it is what it is, quality over quantity, but spend it where it's best suited for you and your fishing style.
I agree with what you saying. I also used to fish tournaments alot and the prices were different. I'm 59 now and I have gone through the brands like most. Here's what I found out over the years. I'm a Daiwa angler and I also have Abu Garcia and Lew's. Here's where I make my decision... If the brand stands behind their product, they are worth my purchase. I love Shimano too but I can't afford those for the fishing I do now. People do that whistle down effect even now. But I do watch for what I want & when Gander mountain went under, I hit the closet one as fast as I could. That's when I was able to get what I have now. But what I was going to say is... with Daiwa they still make models that are made the same but with different features such as handles, ferrels, and more wrapping with a nicer pattern. Their Leguna is $25 and their Steez are$190. Both are IM6 blanks but set up differently. Are the expensive better? Maybe. But if you are out there making money fishing tournaments, I want to set for the situation. Not have to worry about it being"able"to land the fish hooked. Professional anglers are sponsored and they are set. So if they need something, they just let them know. Good video Chad! I like how you explained it.
Good video. I’ve been using a med heavy 100 dollar rod flipping n pitching for 4 years now and still hold up strong. Bank fishing flipping 1-5 pounders over tullies n still hold strong. It’s a personal preference and your point is right too but as long as it works for me then it’s good.
The last few years Maxcuatro is the only braid I buy, 25% thinner and haven't had any issues. The Slick is a lot quieter when you don't need the extra capacity but on some of my reels (Metaniums and Antares come to mind) if you use 40# and the reel isn't fully loaded you can just about spool on a long cast.
I've always considered my fishing equipment "tools". From the rods & reels to terminal tackle. i.e. everything I own fishing related- are tools. Why? If you were a reputable auto mechanic you'd want to use the best tool(s) to get a job done right. A high quality, durable-dependable tool. The right tool for the job. Your skill and tools are what you depend on to fix customer's autos & have returning customers. Your angling (mechanics) skills, knowledge and "fishing tool kit" are key to the return on your investment. So ask yourself- What quality of "tools" would you want if it's all about having a pleasant, trouble free day on the water fishing with your family- or the same question if you are fishing in a tournament for $175,000?
I am definitely a low budget fishermen. I also fish multi species. I have mostly spinning rods. I spend more on the reels for mainly durability. I do try to get a mid range rod.
I always go high end with my contact techniques and moderate price on moving baits. Either way I never go cheap. Like you said, you get what you pay for.
I'll spend at least 50% more on finesse and specialty gear. General reaction bait gear, I'll stick with $200-$250 on a rod and reel combo. You do get what you pay for.
I only spend big money on my worm rods where you need to really feel the bite. I gave g-Loomis for that. Just got a pacemaker from tackle warehouse for 99.00 and they are usually 189.00 rods. If you buy things here and there and not feel like you have to have everything at once you really build up your arsenal. For the people who fish twice or three times a year, cheap rods and reels serve them fine. It takes an enthusiast fisherman to understand why good equipment is worth it.
I agree it depends on how much you fish. If you go once every 3 months for a couple of hours then you will be ok with a 30 combo form Walmart. Now of you go two or three times a month for 6 or 7 hrs then I would recommend mid level gear any thing more that that got with the high end stuff
Can’t beat a ugly stick. I use it for everything. I love to get some of the better pretty rods but I will by good bait caster and jus throw it on a ugly stick
If you fish inshore saltwater cheap gear will only last one season, trust me I know. Also you dont have to go crazy to get quality. Just because its Mercedes doesnt mean its gonna outlast a well made Toyota Camry, but *remember* a Camry is not "cheap gear".
I recently upgraded all my rods from the $30-$75 range to the $100-&175 range. I’ve fished with them for a full season and I must admit there is a tremendous difference. Sensitivity being the biggest difference, I’m noticing bites I never did before and can determine what cover I’m in contact with. The other biggest difference has been how many fewer fish I lose from hookset to landing. Trust me, if you really enjoy fishing you should step into that $100 range if you haven’t already. One more thing, if you got $150 to spend on a combo, spend $100 on the rod and $50 on the reel. Rods are a MUCH more important part of that partnership.
@@anthonycapo1998 I chose a brand that had several technique specific rods at my price point. I chose Dobyns Rods but there alot of other brands with a range of options. I noticed a big difference in sensitivity, hooking and landing more fish.
If you fish a lot yes you want the best. Rod and reel t get r done. But you can get r done in mid range to. So I agree with your thinking. Get what will last. Plus you can hand it down to your kids.
If you can capitalize on black friday or Memorial Day sales, you can get yourself set up with a nice combo for around $100. Just gotta keep an eye out for good deals.
I'm curious to see Chad's answer let me tell you a funny story about me my Xfinity is green with green braid my Mach crush is orange I have orange mono and my mach smash is red I have Crimson fluorocarbon I guess that's the OCD in me everything to match
Kevin Sandells I like to use dark braid and fluorocarbon leaders, darker colors reflect less light and therefore aren’t as easily seen by fish and don’t cause as much “flash” when the sun is high or bright
Chad, Your hilarious #WhistleDamnEffect, my thoughts on this topic is expensive is relative to the how good the product is made and how dependable it is. I agree if the set-up is something that you have in your hand all day it's definitely worth paying more for lighter, durable and more sensitive gear.
My personal best smallmouth (20 inch, no scale but fattie) was on a $10 shakesphere Durango and Abu Blackmax reel. I prefer the better rods I have bought since, but haven't had better luck with them. They just cast better, and feel better overall.
There is a certain tactile pleasure to using well balanced, nice gear. IME, this is especially so in fly fishing where a light , well balanced outfit will improve casting accuracy and consistency. It will not necessarily lead to significantly higher catch rates. Though you may hookup an extra fish here and there, catch rate is much more a function of fishing skill and experience.
I buy usually fifty dollar spinning rod and reel combos i shore fish ninety nine percent of the time sticking the butt of the pole in the mud they get dropped in rocks etc can’t stomach four hundred dollar combos I still get usually two or three years out of a combo and I fish three of four times a week the one thing I don’t skimp on is line if you can’t cast worth a crap because of line twist etc doesn’t matter how much the rod or reel cost
I tend to go for action, feel, and accuracy. I mostly fly fish and Albright were the most accurate rods I ever used they quit making them but were around 60 bucks. Action is very important depends upon which type of fish you are after. Fresh water is generally medium action, saltwater is fast action and carp or catfish would be slow to medium action. Feel is drastically important if you have to bump the end of the rod to feel it it's way to hard. I have a 1000 dollar spay rig that you would have to hook the bumper of a Simi to tell if you had a hit, needless to say I don't use it much. Where I also have a 200 dollar 12 weight I can catch sun fish with. So feel is very important. Line reels rods etc.. are very important so just don't take someone's word for it do the research find the best rod reel line etc that you personally feel will improve your game and help you put more fish in the bag, because when you buy junk to make it work is when you're going to lose the biggest fish of your life. If a 20lb spool of ande,a 20la reel and a 45lb star rod are what makes you confident that's what you get. If it's a 65 dollar combo from walmart that's it. The confidence in the equipment and that it was operator error and not the equipment is what a person is looking for. If you're serious about fishing be serious about fishing and get the equipment that makes you confident. Also if you are fishing with pros and doctors and lawyers and people who own fishing stores and your wearing those beat up tshirts and holy Jean's you might want to upgrade your equipment based on the people you are impressing you never know where that may lead.
It’s a medium heavy Power, not action. The action is Extra Fast, Fast, Moderate, Moderate Slow or Slow. Many people mix these up, but the power and action are two different functions of the rod design and purpose.
@@ChadHooverFishing im sorry that was my mistake... yeah its a medium heavy power, The rod is very nice but the reel doesn't looks strong enough, So I changed the reel for my PENN lll 5000
I was just wondering about rod length from a kayak. I pretty much stopped fishing in the early 2000's and since returning to fishing and hoping to get into kayak fishing, I have noticed the trend to longer rods across the board. Early 2000's, probably due to materials, common rod lengths were 6-7 ft. Now rods are on the longer side with 7 ft a good average length. Why the change in kayak fishing? To me it makes sense to stick with slightly shorter rods being closer to the water versus standing on the deck of a bass boat? Good video as I am updating my rods from my 20 year old dinosaurs. Thanks.
I hate to say but I have both price points from a Berkeley Lightening rod 35.00 from Bass Pro all the way up to the Loomis $249.00 I catch fish both. It’s what you can afford. Take the names off of all of them and use a blank and you would be surprised. As far as reels. Any Lews reel is with the money. Again my opinion and I fish a lot.
Two hundred days of fishing to make it worth while so for me since I can only manage to go 5, 6 times of fishing a year I should buy a six dollar rod and a six dollar reel...Where is the nearest Dollar Store? Fishing equipment is a lot like Golf equipment every company wants you to buy the latest gimmick and yet there are tons of guys fishing with their Ugly Sticks and having just as much fun..."It's not the gun it's the gunner"
Hey brother, I’m in Nashville for the next couple weeks over the holidays. I’d love to fish with you for an episode of my fishing show if you’ve got some time after Christmas. Let me know!
For me a $250.00 Rod is expensive. My favorite rod is an Ugly Stick that I use for worms and baits where I need to feel the bottom. May change my mind if I live long enough but so far I'm happier with less expensive rods.
I'm a hobby fisherman I only fish a couple times a month I only use spinning gear I have a Mach Crush $150 a Lews Xfinity $70 and just purchase a Lew's Mach smash spinning combo with shipping and everything was around a hundred and trust me, to me those are expensive rods LOL
Deps, Nories, Olympic, Evergreen, Tenryu, Yamaga, G craft, Ares (Nissin), Souls, Tict, Xesta, M Aire, Artex, Daiwa, M&N, Gamaktsu (JDM), Ivy Line, Smith, Rodeo Craft, Taper and Shape, Supremo... Life is too short :DDDD
Where does lews get their blanks from? I got low end to top end rods from all different makers and brands. I mostly try stick with American rod makers specially limited lifetime warranty companies. st.croix mojo bass- legend series, g.loomis which I don't know if it's usa made since shamino bought them, edge rods black widows and first strike. I really been buying custom cajun rods over the last couple years, specially the atled series. Atled non-signature $230, it gives my high end st. Croix, g.loomis and edge run for their money. I rather give my money to a really good American company over import company any day.
I have always heard, "Its not the arrow, its the indian"! Well, what if the indian is a little better than the average indian? The average indian will use average arrows. The above average indian, well, he will use above average arrows! It doesn't mean he cant use average arrows. Great video, Chad!
I'm going to call BS on most of this… My aunt worked in a Rod factory for MANY years and many expensive "Brand Name" rods are are made using the exact same blanks as nominally priced ones. You might not believe it but some $50-$80 rods are identical in construction to many $200+ "Name Brand" rods. This is nothing new however and it's quite a common practice in many industries. For instance sunglasses… Luxotica makes about 80% of the premium brand sunglasses you know of, but many of those exact same units sell for hundreds less at gas stations and private vendors. Ever see sunglasses that look exactly like Oakleys, Ray Bans, DKNY, and many other name brands eye wear? Well usually that's because it's the exact same product without the logo. Apparently a brand logo increases manufacturing costs some 400%. LOL Most reels today are made in one of 3 manufacturing facilities and many utilize the same body in order to save costs and the differences are mostly cosmetic, though the appearances don't vary all that much. I've been fishing with Baitcasters since Bill Dance's very first Diawa Reel, the PT33P and I have tried them all and currently I'm using a Lew's Mach 2 and Lew's Custom XP reel and both reels will perform just as good as ANY quality baitcaster, including the infamous Shimano Reels which cost north of an arm AND a leg, and maybe one of your kidneys. I started tournament fishing as a kid and the way my buddy & I earned the money to do so was by mowing lawns for $15 so we'd have to mow quite a few yards in order to be able to afford to buy gear. As such that Diawa PT33P was the first "quality" reel we both bought at a whopping $34.99 and the rods we used were $20 6'6" Shakespears from a drug store, and we won consistently. And while I agree better quality is always going to allow you to do better, there is a point where there literally isn't anything better quality and performance wise and after that point you're just parting with your hard earned money foolishly. Carbon Fiber, fiberglass and other similar composites used today have reached a limit in terms of technology and manufacturing processes and NO ONE COMPANY has better materials or building practices than everyone else so they're all quite similar, with differences so minute you need ultra expensive equipment to be able to register these differences. THAT is how minute they are. Why? Because the raw materials are the same for everyone and the only difference a manufacturer can make is by how they mix their resins and how they cure them, but in the end, eventually as resins tend to do, they reach a point where they completely dry out and the tensile strength, flex and resistance end up being the same. And while some believe that manufacturer A uses X number of plies more than manufacturers B, C, and D, every manufacturer is looking to make the same level product, only a hair better/different to edge out the competition, and in order to do that, you must build to the same specifications. To put that into perspective, raw materials and resins weigh what they weight and you cannot change that, so if Manufacturer A is going to match a rod that Manufacturer D made and want to produce something that produces near identical results, then they're going to have to figure out how much material is required to achieve the same strength, while weighing the same, AND they have to consider the flexibility, speed, and quickness of the blank in order to choose the right combination of materials that will provide all of that similarly or the result will be a rod that's too stiff, too flexible, too light/weak, or too heavy. We getting the picture yet? So Kids… a quality combo should run you between $120-$160 max, and anything after that is up to you to spend. And FYI the Bass Pro Shops/Johnny Morris Signature series rods and reels are identical copies of other, MORE EXPENSIVE name brand models and perform just the same for significantly less. I've always preferred Quantum (the originator of the modern baitcast reel) but decided to try Lew's stuff and although I had an issue with my Mach 2, their customer service was phenomenal and they took care of me in record speed and that has me sold. I'm going to get another Quantum soon though because I love them so much and I need a third rod. The only thing you don't buy from them are Mako or Ranger Boats! They've ruined those brands by skimping out on construction and and raw materials. So many compartment doors crack in no time and the reason is that no resin was ever mixed with the fiberglass so the only thing allowing those doors to maintain their shape and finish is the gelcoat!!!
spread the word my friend, the kids out there must learn the truth. We spend to much of our money, that represent time of our life away from the family. Every cent that you work for, represent a rent on your life, don't trow them on non sense.
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On the subject of ROI. I bought a 3250.00 fish finder setup. There is no justification for that except I am 60 I have the funds and that's what I wanted. My wife asked how are you going to catch enough fish to justify that. I told her I won't but they will taste better. She is still with me that's true love.
With that set up you could find spying subs. To help your country to. Tell her it's better to find lost ship wrecks hunt for lost treasure 😆 There is nothing like a good fish finder wish I could afford one like that I hope your enjoying it.
It’s already brought you $3,250.00 in enjoyment. You wanted it, and you’re happy. That’s what’s important. It makes you happy. Sometimes you can’t put a price tag on happiness....especially these days when there is too much to be unhappy about. I have memories of my very first fly Rod and reel I bought 34 years ago, i spent over $1k on it and I still own it....I have decades of memories attached to that Hardy Rod setup. Now if I could only say I didn’t buy any other tackle...well.
No amount of money has ever bought a Second of Time, time Fishing is wonderful and priceless lol.!!
I use higher end rods for bottom contact,finesse and big swimbaits. To me that’s where the money is best spent.
Higher-end doesn't mean expensive. Try the IM8 Rods from Lew's and tell me it's not just as sensitive and powerful as other "High-End" rods. They range from about $70-$130
^?^ Who knows high end setups 30 dollars won tournament?...well (I have)
Having a good rod is definitely a must, but one of my favorite rods is a $40 Ugly Stik. I started tournament fishing when I was 15 and am 35 now. My Ugly Stik rod has won me and placed me into the money in a ton of local tournaments. But it is a technique specific rod for me and I only use it for one thing and it is always tied on.
Whats the one thing you use it for?
Can’t beat a ugly stick. I use it for everything. I love to get some of the better pretty rods but I will by good bait caster and jus throw it on a ugly stick
I have a 50 dollar rod and a 30 dollar reel. I'm 17 and I use to binge alot rods then broken down. Now I just keep the same 80 buck setup that I love, I thank Jesus for everything!! 😊
Just picked up a $48 spinning ugly stick at Bass Pro. Love it.
@@eclecticmusica those are good
My fishing gear philosophy “good ain’t cheap, cheap ain’t good” - I really liked your point on breaking the cost down by the expected use over the year. When you think of it that way, a dollar a day is nothing. Totally worth it, quality gear that will last those 200 days each year is always worth it. Again great points and vid man!!
Thank you sir. It’s a good sales pitch for convincing wives too. “Now, how many times do you plan to wear those shoes this year?” 😂😂😂😂😂
Totally agree with you on this topic. I'm pretty new at fishing but over the last year I have noticed the difference between cheap rods and the more expensive ones. Great video keep up the good work.
Steve Salcido 👊🏻
Absolutely explained, you don't have to build the arsenal at one time. Buy it piece by piece, great advice. I'm 47, it took my nearly 5 years to build mine.
Thanks for the insight! I mostly fly fish but this info goes across the board for all types of fishing
My fishing buddy bought me a Quantum Pulse Bait caster reel. I have never used a baitcaster reel before. It was a great cheap reel to start with $34.00. I then bought a Ugly Stick medium heavy baitcaster rod. To complete the combo. Fished all 2019 with this combo. Started out with 12 pd test. Then switched to 20 pound braid. Learning to fish a baitcaster was really fun. Caught 4 and a 5 pounder Largemouth Bass on two casts back to back with a Green Pumpkin Senko Texas rigged. So I guess this combo was $75.00. Shawn
BINGO!!! The most important thing when it comes to fishing is knowing how to present lures and knowing how and when to set the hook.
I started fishing with my uncle when I was about 7 and we used soda can with mono wrapped around and pre-rigged plastic worm setups and we'd catch fish. Once I graduated to a Rod & Reel all the knowledge I'd amassed made it easier for me to catch fish.
@@theINQBS I started with a can also. Then to a Zebco 202 reel and rod to a short handled Ugly Stick medium heavy with a Zebco 33. Spin rod and reel to a Quantum Pulse Bait caster rod and reel. To a Quantum ACCURIST PT S3 and Berkely Cherry wood medium heavy. Just this week. Shawn
Really great way to lay this all out in a logical and reasonable way. Seriously really appreciated this. Subscribed
Thanks Chad for your insight. I’m new to the sport and it can be overwhelming the cost of everything to get started in kayak fishing, from the kayak to the depth finder to all the gear you need. Then you see anglers who are taking 12-14 $400 dollar rod setups with them. I’m hoping to start with 3 decent rods and hopefully build from there as I gain experience. Thanks again for your insight.
This was a perfect video and perfect timing. Fellas and ladies show this video to who ever you giving your Christmas list too and they ask why the Rod & Reel or any fishing equipment you asking for is so expensive. And why you need it. Just showed my wife this video and was thr easiest break down and even better then I tried to explain to her why I need a 300 combo. Thank you @Chadhoover great timing, great video
Beginners should always start cheap so they know what they want in their upgraded gear. Too many kids these days are suckered into dropping $200 on something they know nothing about.
Now that's keeping realistic 💪🏽
100% agree, After starting fishing KBF tournaments, I started to see everything differently, and in a year I had to upgrade all my entire arsenal to a little expensive equipments, now I see things differently according to the needs that have emerged on the way. And thanks to the KBF community in debates about this topic I find brands that I didn't even know and finally help me to take decisions in this matter. Thanks Chad 👍
uplink serial that’s awesome. Thanks for the great feedback and hope to see you at a KBF event in 2020
I love my expensive rods, but I learned everything I know and caught my pb smallmouth on a 5 ft. cheapo combo.
Sound philosophy, spoken well!!! Keep on KEEPING ON!
SUPER Fish 👊🏻
Thank you for the instructional video's. These are helpful. I feel that the longer I fish the more there is to learn. Please keep these type of video's coming!
I was introduced to JB custom rods and can never go back. They don't break the bank for me at 200 bucks and up but my god, the sensitivity is out of this world!
What a well versed, informed man. Subbed
Great advice and insight. I agree with the return on investment principle.
Does a person need expensive equipment to have fishing sucess or enjoyment, no, absolutely not. However, like anything a person is passionate about, they ultimately put a price on their own gear, meaning how much they want to spend and what that is worth to them.
Really enjoying this mini series of rod / reel vidoes you have put together. Appreciate your time and effort.
Christopher Pettersen thank you.
I personally believe in fishing you really do get what you pay for. I’m never gonna chastise anybody for spending their hard earned money on something they want. My favorite rod in my arsenal is my G Loomis NRX. Yeah it’s really expensive but as far as the advantages I think they outweigh the cons. Sensitivity, action and the most underrated part of a rod, the lightness of it aiding arm fatigue
I agree 100 man. I've got an nrx paired with a shimano stradic FL and that rod is in my hand 80% of the time because the drop shot flat out catches fish on the Guadalupe river I fish. I tell people to try a 100 rod then put my nrx in their hand and the difference is night and day. I find myself trying to set the hook alot because of all the ticking on the end of the line lol
TEXAS RIGGED Mine too. That NRX seriously feels like a feather in your hands and the sensitivity there isn’t a rod on the market IMO that competes. I live in Georgia and everybody down here loves Duckett rods but I’m telling you I let people use my G Loomis rods and they make those white rods look like Walmart rods lol
Great rod series
Hunter Nixon really no cons to an nrx. They're just expensive
@@hunternixonfishing2500 dont say that too fast though.. a lot of good brands have comparable rods in their lineup.. atabout the same pricepoint..
For most setups my threshold is 130-200 for a reel and same for a rod, But now having 15 casting and 3 spinning setups im going to save up and get a dedicated big swimbait setup to throw baits up to 4-6 oz. Have one for smaller 1-3.5 baits but need to upgrade so i can start throwing 8" hudds and big jig hook baits. I figure a lews superduty wide and a 200-300$ rod should get the job done effectively.
Just got back from my seventh Amazon trip with a Lews SD Wide Speed Spool that is used for big woodchoppers to save the more expensive reels from the abuse. It's a brute, the only thing I don't like is the round grips.
Really good explanation regarding your purchasing strategies. I loved it when I heard ROI. Nicely done.
Good video Chad. I like that your sponsored because you use them and don’t use because your sponsored. Legit.
Nice coverage. Makes a lot of sense in how you described it. Like the theory of if you can pay for it in a year with how many times you us it. I spend a lot on my frog rods because I fish frogs a lot.
Yes, if you fish enough the rods more worth it then the expensive reel.. but both are nicer. For the most part you what you pay for. The 200 is the good price point before going higher while keeping good quality and performance! Great vid chad
Zee Bait Co Amen. Thanks!
Well said Chad ‘ couldn’t agree more” love your channel. !
Anthony Moraitis thank you sir
Awesome point about your rod/reel in regard to fishing technique. I've got a few nice rod/reel setups totaling $250 but I also have a Cabela's Whopping Stick I use for topwater.
Just wanted to say thanks to Chad Hoover for the great videos and keep them coming. 2019 was my first year fishing in the KBF and I only did a few state challenges but I learned so much already from that experience, your videos, and also the KBF community in general. I plan on fishing a lot more KBF events in 2020 and was able to use the sales on black Friday to stock up on a lot of gear I needed both to outfit my new Bonafide kayak and to get rods and reels. I look at the purchases I made as investments because I plan on taking kayak bass fishing pretty seriously starting in 2020 so although I spent a lot of money particularly on rods and reels recently I believe it was a worthwhile investment.
Man I have been trying to explain this to my wife, so I turned this video up load so she could hear it lol.
Easy, just use cheap makeup vs expensive make problem solved.
Good luck with that lol. She will turn around and yell at you, ARE U MAKING MONEY OFF FISHING!? That's what mine says at least lol.
Grasshopper you have much to learn. You always tell the wife your fishing and hunting gear costs half of what it really costs.
Just use something that performs and is comfortable to fish with. I'm just as satisfied with my chinese rods (they were selected craefully, I don't buy crap just because it's cheap) as with the more expensive ones from local fishing stores. I believe your after all the tackle that brings the fish, other than that, buy rods you can execute your techniques with.
I have a $20 price limit on my entire setup. I don't ever get bites anymore because I don't have access. Bank fishing crappy spots is my mo and I love fishing either way., and when I do get a hit, it's really exciting.
Excellent Brother!! You break this down perfectly!!
FullArmorBassin thank you sir
I really like what you had to say. Makes perfect sense. I personally would rather get the best I can afford without being in debt. If that means saving up for 6 months to get that $3-400 combo then it is what it is, quality over quantity, but spend it where it's best suited for you and your fishing style.
Thanks, glad you liked it.
Great video. Nice explanation of how to look 👀 cost of gear
I agree with what you saying. I also used to fish tournaments alot and the prices were different. I'm 59 now and I have gone through the brands like most. Here's what I found out over the years. I'm a Daiwa angler and I also have Abu Garcia and Lew's. Here's where I make my decision... If the brand stands behind their product, they are worth my purchase. I love Shimano too but I can't afford those for the fishing I do now. People do that whistle down effect even now. But I do watch for what I want & when Gander mountain went under, I hit the closet one as fast as I could. That's when I was able to get what I have now. But what I was going to say is... with Daiwa they still make models that are made the same but with different features such as handles, ferrels, and more wrapping with a nicer pattern. Their Leguna is $25 and their Steez are$190. Both are IM6 blanks but set up differently. Are the expensive better? Maybe. But if you are out there making money fishing tournaments, I want to set for the situation. Not have to worry about it being"able"to land the fish hooked. Professional anglers are sponsored and they are set. So if they need something, they just let them know. Good video Chad! I like how you explained it.
Good video. I’ve been using a med heavy 100 dollar rod flipping n pitching for 4 years now and still hold up strong. Bank fishing flipping 1-5 pounders over tullies n still hold strong. It’s a personal preference and your point is right too but as long as it works for me then it’s good.
Great video Chad! I agree 100%!
Thank you.
Chad Hoover You’re welcome man!
Now that's some straight talk without walking on eggshells while doing it.
Thanks! I spent 20 years in the Navy. My egg shell walking sensibilities are broken 😂😂😂😂
Hey man you should try powerpro maxcuatro and powerpro slick. I think you would like it.
The last few years Maxcuatro is the only braid I buy, 25% thinner and haven't had any issues. The Slick is a lot quieter when you don't need the extra capacity but on some of my reels (Metaniums and Antares come to mind) if you use 40# and the reel isn't fully loaded you can just about spool on a long cast.
That is the best advice I have ever heard
Thank you and I am glad you appreciated it
As i began to fish more often and target different species i am now beginning to upgrade my setups for quality and certain techniques
I've always considered my fishing equipment "tools". From the rods & reels to terminal tackle. i.e. everything I own fishing related- are tools. Why? If you were a reputable auto mechanic you'd want to use the best tool(s) to get a job done right. A high quality, durable-dependable tool. The right tool for the job. Your skill and tools are what you depend on to fix customer's autos & have returning customers. Your angling (mechanics) skills, knowledge and "fishing tool kit" are key to the return on your investment. So ask yourself- What quality of "tools" would you want if it's all about having a pleasant, trouble free day on the water fishing with your family- or the same question if you are fishing in a tournament for $175,000?
I am definitely a low budget fishermen. I also fish multi species. I have mostly spinning rods. I spend more on the reels for mainly durability. I do try to get a mid range rod.
Thanks for the info. I wouldn't know because, I usually buy lightning rods for bass fishing and ugly sticks for catfishing. 🙏🇺🇸
Love these type of videos
Brian Sacha thank you
I always go high end with my contact techniques and moderate price on moving baits. Either way I never go cheap. Like you said, you get what you pay for.
The last year or two I've changed my mind on how much a good rod means. $100 is a good starting point for a good rod You get what you pay for
I'll spend at least 50% more on finesse and specialty gear. General reaction bait gear, I'll stick with $200-$250 on a rod and reel combo. You do get what you pay for.
At this point in my life I tried to spend $100 to $150 on either a rod or a real. I've lost $600 rod reel combos in the river and cried for days.
That's a hard subject to "TACKLE". Lol. But that's about the best response I've heard.
Joel Davis ha! Thanks
I only spend big money on my worm rods where you need to really feel the bite. I gave g-Loomis for that. Just got a pacemaker from tackle warehouse for 99.00 and they are usually 189.00 rods. If you buy things here and there and not feel like you have to have everything at once you really build up your arsenal. For the people who fish twice or three times a year, cheap rods and reels serve them fine. It takes an enthusiast fisherman to understand why good equipment is worth it.
I agree it depends on how much you fish. If you go once every 3 months for a couple of hours then you will be ok with a 30 combo form Walmart. Now of you go two or three times a month for 6 or 7 hrs then I would recommend mid level gear any thing more that that got with the high end stuff
Love the St Croix Avid Series great stuff
Can you make a video about why lines are more expensive than others and explain the differences
Can’t beat a ugly stick. I use it for everything. I love to get some of the better pretty rods but I will by good bait caster and jus throw it on a ugly stick
just used your code at fishusa .... thanks CHAD10 ... another great explanation video
Adventures101 awesome. Thanks for the support
If you fish inshore saltwater cheap gear will only last one season, trust me I know. Also you dont have to go crazy to get quality. Just because its Mercedes doesnt mean its gonna outlast a well made Toyota Camry, but *remember* a Camry is not "cheap gear".
Yessir, and in many cases it will only last one season in freshwater as well.
Exact same here. I cheap out on my spinning combo vs my casting combo which are way more expensive.
I recently upgraded all my rods from the $30-$75 range to the $100-&175 range. I’ve fished with them for a full season and I must admit there is a tremendous difference. Sensitivity being the biggest difference, I’m noticing bites I never did before and can determine what cover I’m in contact with. The other biggest difference has been how many fewer fish I lose from hookset to landing. Trust me, if you really enjoy fishing you should step into that $100 range if you haven’t already. One more thing, if you got $150 to spend on a combo, spend $100 on the rod and $50 on the reel. Rods are a MUCH more important part of that partnership.
what rods did you get? did you stick with one series or brand?
@@anthonycapo1998 I chose a brand that had several technique specific rods at my price point. I chose Dobyns Rods but there alot of other brands with a range of options. I noticed a big difference in sensitivity, hooking and landing more fish.
If you fish a lot yes you want the best. Rod and reel t get r done. But you can get r done in mid range to. So I agree with your thinking. Get what will last. Plus you can hand it down to your kids.
Best bang for the buck is my motto... that and "buy once, cry once"... Lol
Best explanation and logic I’ve heard.
Thanks. And thanks for watching
You was saying a moderate fast action would that be like a medium action
If you can capitalize on black friday or Memorial Day sales, you can get yourself set up with a nice combo for around $100. Just gotta keep an eye out for good deals.
Hernan's Reel Game yessir. Be sure to check FishUSA for deals too. Some of the best in the industry
I have a couple of duckett rods and they are awesome. Got a question. What is your fishing line color preference Chad. Thanks
I'm curious to see Chad's answer let me tell you a funny story about me my Xfinity is green with green braid my Mach crush is orange I have orange mono and my mach smash is red I have Crimson fluorocarbon I guess that's the OCD in me everything to match
Kevin Sandells I like to use dark braid and fluorocarbon leaders, darker colors reflect less light and therefore aren’t as easily seen by fish and don’t cause as much “flash” when the sun is high or bright
Very wise words right there.
Excellent video!
Chad,
Your hilarious #WhistleDamnEffect, my thoughts on this topic is expensive is relative to the how good the product is made and how dependable it is. I agree if the set-up is something that you have in your hand all day it's definitely worth paying more for lighter, durable and more sensitive gear.
acnjshink thanks brother. I actually forgot that I said that
My personal best smallmouth (20 inch, no scale but fattie) was on a $10 shakesphere Durango and Abu Blackmax reel. I prefer the better rods I have bought since, but haven't had better luck with them. They just cast better, and feel better overall.
Well put Hoover
Let me tell you. Ark rods Makes some of the best rods I’ve used. Very light and affordable
I think it depends on purpose and technique. Most of my rods are in the $120 range.
A expensive rod breaks the same as a cheap rod when you close that tailgate so...lol
You nailed it!
Just don’t do that then 🤷🏻♂️ you could say the same thing about miss-using anything
There is a certain tactile pleasure to using well balanced, nice gear. IME, this is especially so in fly fishing where a light , well balanced outfit will improve casting accuracy and consistency. It will not necessarily lead to significantly higher catch rates. Though you may hookup an extra fish here and there, catch rate is much more a function of fishing skill and experience.
Master braid is really good braid.
It really is and I was skeptical at first.
I thought, “how much better could it really be?” Well, it’s that much better. 👊🏻
What made you switch to Shimano and gloomis?
I buy usually fifty dollar spinning rod and reel combos i shore fish ninety nine percent of the time sticking the butt of the pole in the mud they get dropped in rocks etc can’t stomach four hundred dollar combos I still get usually two or three years out of a combo and I fish three of four times a week the one thing I don’t skimp on is line if you can’t cast worth a crap because of line twist etc doesn’t matter how much the rod or reel cost
Great video
I always have tried to go with quality over savings
I tend to go for action, feel, and accuracy. I mostly fly fish and Albright were the most accurate rods I ever used they quit making them but were around 60 bucks. Action is very important depends upon which type of fish you are after. Fresh water is generally medium action, saltwater is fast action and carp or catfish would be slow to medium action. Feel is drastically important if you have to bump the end of the rod to feel it it's way to hard. I have a 1000 dollar spay rig that you would have to hook the bumper of a Simi to tell if you had a hit, needless to say I don't use it much. Where I also have a 200 dollar 12 weight I can catch sun fish with. So feel is very important. Line reels rods etc.. are very important so just don't take someone's word for it do the research find the best rod reel line etc that you personally feel will improve your game and help you put more fish in the bag, because when you buy junk to make it work is when you're going to lose the biggest fish of your life. If a 20lb spool of ande,a 20la reel and a 45lb star rod are what makes you confident that's what you get. If it's a 65 dollar combo from walmart that's it. The confidence in the equipment and that it was operator error and not the equipment is what a person is looking for. If you're serious about fishing be serious about fishing and get the equipment that makes you confident. Also if you are fishing with pros and doctors and lawyers and people who own fishing stores and your wearing those beat up tshirts and holy Jean's you might want to upgrade your equipment based on the people you are impressing you never know where that may lead.
I got a spinning rod combo for $80 medium heavy .
And my more expensive setup is $70 rod and $60 spinning reel
It’s a medium heavy Power, not action. The action is Extra Fast, Fast, Moderate, Moderate Slow or Slow. Many people mix these up, but the power and action are two different functions of the rod design and purpose.
@@ChadHooverFishing im sorry that was my mistake... yeah its a medium heavy power,
The rod is very nice but the reel doesn't looks strong enough,
So I changed the reel for my PENN lll 5000
Nice video! I usually try going on the medium high or high end when posible.
I was just wondering about rod length from a kayak. I pretty much stopped fishing in the early 2000's and since returning to fishing and hoping to get into kayak fishing, I have noticed the trend to longer rods across the board. Early 2000's, probably due to materials, common rod lengths were 6-7 ft. Now rods are on the longer side with 7 ft a good average length. Why the change in kayak fishing? To me it makes sense to stick with slightly shorter rods being closer to the water versus standing on the deck of a bass boat? Good video as I am updating my rods from my 20 year old dinosaurs. Thanks.
Love fishing no matter the cost sooo. Relaxing!!
I hate to say but I have both price points from a Berkeley Lightening rod 35.00 from Bass Pro all the way up to the Loomis $249.00 I catch fish both. It’s what you can afford. Take the names off of all of them and use a blank and you would be surprised. As far as reels. Any Lews reel is with the money. Again my opinion and I fish a lot.
Chad: $200 dollar rod and $200 reel
Me: only!? That's cheap!
Chad:....um...( whistle )
Two hundred days of fishing to make it worth while so for me since I can only manage to go 5, 6 times of fishing a year I should buy a six dollar rod and a six dollar reel...Where is the nearest Dollar Store? Fishing equipment is a lot like Golf equipment every company wants you to buy the latest gimmick and yet there are tons of guys fishing with their Ugly Sticks and having just as much fun..."It's not the gun it's the gunner"
@@Nostrafatu 😂
I love my high end stuff. I'm pretty hard core tho. I bought my spiral wrapped rod and cant go back to standard guides.
Hey brother, I’m in Nashville for the next couple weeks over the holidays. I’d love to fish with you for an episode of my fishing show if you’ve got some time after Christmas. Let me know!
For me a $250.00 Rod is expensive. My favorite rod is an Ugly Stick that I use for worms and baits where I need to feel the bottom. May change my mind if I live long enough but so far I'm happier with less expensive rods.
good point . but you still have to get that bait in front of the fish in order for them to bite
I'm a hobby fisherman I only fish a couple times a month I only use spinning gear I have a Mach Crush $150 a Lews Xfinity $70 and just purchase a Lew's Mach smash spinning combo with shipping and everything was around a hundred and trust me, to me those are expensive rods LOL
Mike Big Show Showalter yessir. that’s why it’s all relative
If you choose where do you put more money in rod or reel?
Always reel a rod is just a rod and a better reel will make you enjoy it a bit more
Depends on the technique, if you're predominantly cranking the reel, jigs and such definitely the rod
Great Presentation, investing time spent watching your videos always has good return on investment!
For whistle effect that's funny
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Shimano Megabass so yea 🤙🏽
Deps, Nories, Olympic, Evergreen, Tenryu, Yamaga, G craft, Ares (Nissin), Souls, Tict, Xesta, M Aire, Artex, Daiwa, M&N, Gamaktsu (JDM), Ivy Line, Smith, Rodeo Craft, Taper and Shape, Supremo... Life is too short :DDDD
Where does lews get their blanks from? I got low end to top end rods from all different makers and brands. I mostly try stick with American rod makers specially limited lifetime warranty companies. st.croix mojo bass- legend series, g.loomis which I don't know if it's usa made since shamino bought them, edge rods black widows and first strike. I really been buying custom cajun rods over the last couple years, specially the atled series. Atled non-signature $230, it gives my high end st. Croix, g.loomis and edge run for their money. I rather give my money to a really good American company over import company any day.
Kyle Downy I’m not 100% sure on Lew’s but I do know that they are imported
Right On!!
I have always heard, "Its not the arrow, its the indian"! Well, what if the indian is a little better than the average indian? The average indian will use average arrows. The above average indian, well, he will use above average arrows! It doesn't mean he cant use average arrows. Great video, Chad!
What coast 1 pcs rod kbf
I'm going to call BS on most of this… My aunt worked in a Rod factory for MANY years and many expensive "Brand Name" rods are are made using the exact same blanks as nominally priced ones. You might not believe it but some $50-$80 rods are identical in construction to many $200+ "Name Brand" rods. This is nothing new however and it's quite a common practice in many industries. For instance sunglasses… Luxotica makes about 80% of the premium brand sunglasses you know of, but many of those exact same units sell for hundreds less at gas stations and private vendors.
Ever see sunglasses that look exactly like Oakleys, Ray Bans, DKNY, and many other name brands eye wear? Well usually that's because it's the exact same product without the logo.
Apparently a brand logo increases manufacturing costs some 400%. LOL
Most reels today are made in one of 3 manufacturing facilities and many utilize the same body in order to save costs and the differences are mostly cosmetic, though the appearances don't vary all that much.
I've been fishing with Baitcasters since Bill Dance's very first Diawa Reel, the PT33P and I have tried them all and currently I'm using a Lew's Mach 2 and Lew's Custom XP reel and both reels will perform just as good as ANY quality baitcaster, including the infamous Shimano Reels which cost north of an arm AND a leg, and maybe one of your kidneys. I started tournament fishing as a kid and the way my buddy & I earned the money to do so was by mowing lawns for $15 so we'd have to mow quite a few yards in order to be able to afford to buy gear. As such that Diawa PT33P was the first "quality" reel we both bought at a whopping $34.99 and the rods we used were $20 6'6" Shakespears from a drug store, and we won consistently. And while I agree better quality is always going to allow you to do better, there is a point where there literally isn't anything better quality and performance wise and after that point you're just parting with your hard earned money foolishly.
Carbon Fiber, fiberglass and other similar composites used today have reached a limit in terms of technology and manufacturing processes and NO ONE COMPANY has better materials or building practices than everyone else so they're all quite similar, with differences so minute you need ultra expensive equipment to be able to register these differences. THAT is how minute they are. Why? Because the raw materials are the same for everyone and the only difference a manufacturer can make is by how they mix their resins and how they cure them, but in the end, eventually as resins tend to do, they reach a point where they completely dry out and the tensile strength, flex and resistance end up being the same. And while some believe that manufacturer A uses X number of plies more than manufacturers B, C, and D, every manufacturer is looking to make the same level product, only a hair better/different to edge out the competition, and in order to do that, you must build to the same specifications. To put that into perspective, raw materials and resins weigh what they weight and you cannot change that, so if Manufacturer A is going to match a rod that Manufacturer D made and want to produce something that produces near identical results, then they're going to have to figure out how much material is required to achieve the same strength, while weighing the same, AND they have to consider the flexibility, speed, and quickness of the blank in order to choose the right combination of materials that will provide all of that similarly or the result will be a rod that's too stiff, too flexible, too light/weak, or too heavy.
We getting the picture yet?
So Kids… a quality combo should run you between $120-$160 max, and anything after that is up to you to spend. And FYI the Bass Pro Shops/Johnny Morris Signature series rods and reels are identical copies of other, MORE EXPENSIVE name brand models and perform just the same for significantly less. I've always preferred Quantum (the originator of the modern baitcast reel) but decided to try Lew's stuff and although I had an issue with my Mach 2, their customer service was phenomenal and they took care of me in record speed and that has me sold. I'm going to get another Quantum soon though because I love them so much and I need a third rod.
The only thing you don't buy from them are Mako or Ranger Boats! They've ruined those brands by skimping out on construction and and raw materials. So many compartment doors crack in no time and the reason is that no resin was ever mixed with the fiberglass so the only thing allowing those doors to maintain their shape and finish is the gelcoat!!!
spread the word my friend, the kids out there must learn the truth. We spend to much of our money, that represent time of our life away from the family. Every cent that you work for, represent a rent on your life, don't trow them on non sense.