I have Baja Boss A/T on my Ram 1500. They are the 34" tire. I just drove on I80 in Wyoming in a snow storm. The highway was closed but Highway Patrol let us go to Laramie from Cheyenne. For some distance it was not plowed and had six inches of snow on top of ice. They were phenomenal. Zero slipping. We had to drive around some semi's in deeper snow and a soft shoulder. Zero issue. I have also used them up in the mountain on bigger rocks. I absolutely would buy these tires again. I have had them for about 12000 miles and they are wearing great.
I have been selling tires for over 35 years, I love tire reviews and I try to test as many tires as I can so I can recommend good tires to my customers. My favorite tire of all time is the Mickey Thompson Baja A/T, it excels in snow, eats mud for breakfast and is reasonably quiet. My last set was on a 2017 Chevy 3500 Diesel in 295/70R18 and I loved the tire. It is a heavy tire, but there is a lot of rubber on the ground. I ran numerous sets of Goodyear Duratracs and frankly I didn't think it was that great in the mud, and it seemed to wear quickly towing heavy on a diesel truck. When the tire got to about 50% wear, traction was poor. I am testing some Toyo R/T Trails on my current GMC 3500 Dually and so far they are doing well. I have pulled heavy trailers for over 1000 miles and the last trip was 300 miles of snow packed roads and the tire excelled in places where the snow was a little deeper on the highway. Hard pack snow and ice was about what you could expect, reasonable. I have always been a fan of the General Grabber ATX with studs for snow use and I agree with your conclusions about them. I have several sets of Toyo A/TIII on the road on customers vehicles right now and so far they like them. I also have many sets of BFG KO2's out there and some love them and some don't. As for mud tires, one of my favorites is the Mickey Thompson MTZ, I just put another set of 35-12.50-15's on my Jeep TJ and they set the bar in the mud especially when driven at around 10 psi.
First of all thanks for this comment and putting in all the effort. I think comments like this are super helpful for people trying to figure out what tires to consider… I really appreciate it.
Thanks for info I am looking for new tyres for my Prado (I think in the US your equivalent is a GX ?) 2:52 and this info is very helpful Cheers (from Oz)
How much heavier is heavy Most tyres wheight about the same for size? If you go 35" the standard Dana 35 might be overwhelmed, a 44 can take it if you don't go crazzy, Push it to the limit get a Dana 60, Personaly for camping normal offroading a 33 Dia tire will get you everywhere(Reinforced sidewalls and biters a Plus, Rocks and roots will punture a sidewall) .And a standard engine will still be powerfull enough. Anyway if you need traction/power remember you have 4 Low with large tyres. Regearing isn't a priority, but if you only got 1 car for everything a 4.11 gear might help with 33" and mileage. Ups forgot to mention Get a STANDARD 5 Spd Tranny@@mlife2
I love my Toyo A/T3s and you are absolutely correct about their pros and cons. However I will say they are absolutely perfect in the sand and very good in unplowed snow. Wet is surprisingly bad. Your reviews are unbiased, subbed
I really don't have a favorite manufacturer... they all are pretty much competing and constantly leap frogging each other... makes it easy to be unbiased
I have had the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss since 2021 on my f150 and have about 45,000 miles on them and they still have a good amount of tread. They have been amazing. I’ve done deep sand, mountain snow roads, desert hard pack, and mild mountain rock climbing and have never had issues. Even pull a 7,000 lb toy hauler and they are very stable
Of all of the videos I watch about overlanding gear and equipment, I truly believe you do the best reviews. You don't give any indication of your preference, while just providing an honest, straight forward assessment of any product you're discussing. I've been watching tire videos for the past 12 months and I'm about to buy a set. The two videos you did on AT tires are the best. You've helped me make my decision. Thanks for the work you put into your videos!
This makes my day… I really have never been a “brand preference” person. No one company can dominate at everything… so it really comes down to personal use. Lots of good tires out there just need to pick the one that matches your use. Trying to help people figure that out… not doing it perfectly… but trying 🤷♂️
Don't haul heavy loads with them. Had two them come apart on me carrying 6 tons. One went an hour after the first one did. Lad range E less at 70 psi. Less then 10, 000 miles rough back to installer who in turn contacted Mickey Thompson. Basically told to go fly a kite. So I took the other two off sold them on Facebook and Bought the Toyo A/T 3 and have run them and have been thrilled to death by them.
I bought Toyo AT3s with the help of this video. You said be honest with your use. I’m a 90% road guy and a weekend fire road explorer. Previous tire was Toyo MT and absolutely hated them. Loved the look but I hated them once the weather turned bad in Reno. I literally would drive my minivan before my 4x4 truck in the winter. To be fair I bought the MTs used for half price so it was a money thing lol. Learned a lot.
@@TacoRancher I live in Reno so I had the opportunity to experience them last winter when it rained and snowed all over the Reno Tahoe Carson City area. They handled very well in both rain and snow. I’m guessing it because the new tread pattern has much more sipping and the block pattern is tighter than the mud terrains. Snow needs to stick to the treads to make them any good. That’s why my mud terrains absolutely sucked prior to these ATs.
I was a huge KO2 fan boy for a long time and decided to make the switch to the Baja Boss AT after seeing how aggressive they looked. I could'nt be happier, they ride super smooth and are still quiet on the highway. I get tons of compliments on them.
@alexs825 got mine from a local shop. They also have 80k miles on them with 10/32 left. Had 18/32. 7000 pound yukon denali from the added weight and I also tow often.
Recently bought thr Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T and theyve been very quiet, aggressive during a trip to the most remote town in the lower 48, Jarbidge, Nevada. Miles and miles of dirt track/forest service road, up and down some steep sections, and switchbacks. Very sure footed and no drama. Now we've had a bit of snow, and it crunched over snow and crusty ice without any delay. Just drive with reasonable prudence and you won't have any problems.
@ms.annthrope415 Any update on how the MTs are still doing? These are probably my next tire, I live in the PNW and spend a lot of time all over remote areas in the PNW, SW and everywhere in between sand, snow, rocks, washboards, washouts etc. and this tire seems like it checks all the boxes for me.
Still love the Baja Boss ATs, but haven't had many chances to go off thr paved roads. It has killed my mileage by about 2.5 mpg on my F250 diesel. I can accept then trade off if I drove much more off road or exploring more this year. But I've been more house bound 2024 so I'm not able to go out and play.
Just to be clear about the Baja Boss and tire rotations, as long as they are mounted to the rim with the outside out, they will rotate to any corner of the vehicle. Excellent Video!
Your last comment when ending your video: "I hope this was helpful". Well, it was very helpful and probably one of the best reviews on any of the 4 tires you covered that I've watched on TH-cam and I've watched a quite a few videos. Very thorough and well done. Thanks!
I bought a set of the baja boss AT's back in April of 2022, and they've been great for me, they're surprisingly quiet and smooth on the road, I put 500 miles a week on them consistently and they have done very well in the snow, ice, wet roads, slush, puddles, and off road. I will be getting another pair!
How many miles did you get out of them? Considering those as well as R/T Trails and not sure which route to go with. I drive 20k miles a year and need 40k from my tires.
@camaroboi13 I'm a little over 42,000 miles on them and they are just about at the end of their life they've got a little less than 3/32" of tread above the "wear marks" on the tire. So I'd say they've made it to their 50k mile warranty. It's been almost 2 years since I've got them. My truck is a 2011 Toyota tacoma. The tire size is 265 70 17's load E
Any sort of suspension upgrade on your taco to make them fit? I have 2012 taco with bilstein 5100s/OME 885 springs and AAL in the rear but stock UCAs. I just ordered the MT Bajas in the same size and was just curious. My wildpeaks rub at full lock.
Falken Wildpeak AT3W has my vote. I live out in the country and you have to drive through dirt and gravel road to get to the black top. Don't think there's a better well balanced tire than that.
I bought my MT BB AT 37's in Aug of 22 for my 18 2Dr JK daily driver & after 25K, I've been to Ouray (alpine loop), Moab, Hot Springs twice, Smores, Krocks, Tuttle & I have 0 complaints, but the one thing you mentioned is true with mine, lots of weights.
I did 37s as well, but I knew with the weight of the tire I was going straight to balancing beads. Saved me time of balancing them at work when mounting and rotations. I’ve had them up to 80mph with no vibrations.
I was able to find a set of 285/33/16 MT Baja Boss tires for my 22 Bronco. Best AT tire I ever had! Great road manners, quiet and will dig through anything. I did NOT have balancing issues with my set.
Thanks for all the info and experience. Very reassuring after i bought the Mickey Thompson At’s in a 37 for my tundra. The sidewall tread sold me along with all of the great reviews. I can say that they are very quiet for how aggressive they look
I run the Toyo AT3 (E's) on my truck and tow a boat. With that said, I'm mostly highway but appreciate the aggressive tread when i get to my destination since many lake roads are often steep gravel / dirt / tree roots, etc. mix. It seems to do fairly well in heavy rain since the AT3's are fully siped (full lug depth) as opposed to the prior set of Toyo AT2's I ran.
Great review. But I have some constructive criticism. When talking about a tire, instead of saying "this tire" all the time, say the name of the tire. Also, when putting up your pros and cons on the screen, put the name of the tire at the top of the list. Hope you can understand how doing this will enable people to know "which tire" your talking about. Especially people who like to fast fwd thru the video to get to the tire your going to review that they want to hear about. Thanks for understanding.
It would certainly be helpful if you are the type to listen to the video more than watching it. Pair those two together and you will have no problem at all🤟🤟
@@Sungie264 so my comment got 3 agrees, and 1 stupid comment saying to listen. Well, thats the problem, he does not speak enough as to what tire he is reviewing. It is "this tire that, this tire that." So listening will do no good if the info is lacking from the start. Your out voted, so keep scrolling.
I recently bought the Baja Boss AT and so far love them. Great ride, quiet and excellent traction everywhere and that’s on a 3/4 dodge diesel. I will definitely buy again if they last the 50k.
This was so helpful! Thank you very much. I currently have the MT ATZ and am looking for my next tyres. It was between the Wildpeaks, KO2 and MT Baja Boss. Now I will buy the Baja Boss’s with some conviction. Thanks again!
First video I've watched of yours....... great job dude! I just installed a set of the Toyo Open Country's on my Tacoma, Pizza Cutter 235/85/R16. I could not be happier with them in the snow of Northern Wisconsin! Keep the vids coming! Cheers
Awesome video! Thanks for pointing out that you had a second video (I had commented on your first one) Can you answer a couple questions out of ALL the tires you tested? 1. What would be your best pick for snow & ice 2. What would your top 3 picks be, based on the best all-around average? Personally I bought the Baja Boss, I'm mostly on road with lots of winter, but it gets sloppy in spring as well. So far EXTREMELY happy, after coming off years of mud tires. Also I like that you put the Duratrac guys in their place, all the construction guys run them around here "because they always have" Thanks again. Awesome content!
I'm going on my third year on the Mickey Thompson Bsja Boss ATs. Amazing off road. Very comparable to my old BFG mud terrains but with a 50k warranty. On the road they are comfortable and not real loud. Best tires I've owned so far on any of my rigs.
On my second set of the ATx, got 96.000 kilometers on the first set. I could have left them on for at least 2000 kms more. I live in a wet winter area and are great in the rain. The snow is not a problem at all. !! I run a 10 ply. I don't find a noise issue either.
I bought a set of the General Grabber Atx and im loving them. I drive a 07 Sahara on 33s and they are great for the weekend warrior like me. I only run moderate rated trails and they've handled great!
I have the Toyo OC AT3 on my lifted 05 Subaru WRX in 215/75/15 in northern Michigan and it was fabulous in winter and never left me feeling like I couldn’t travel even in the worst snowstorm. For my application, they felt far superior to the Michelin X Ice I had on for a winter season. I Just yesterday installed some 255/80/17 (33x10.5) Load E Toyo OC AT3 on my 2005 Sequoia and I’m really looking forward to seeing how they do this winter. I’ll hopefully come back to this comment and update my findings.
I should also say, on my Subaru they made 0 road noise, even at 100+ mph and handled incredibly well at these high speeds surprisingly. The 33’s I just put on my sequoia have about 10k miles on them since I bought them used, but even at 80mph there’s some noise but it’s just as much as the Goodyear Wrangler ATS I had on before. AND each tire balanced out with less than 2oz per tire even after 10k miles on the rear of a dually.
Thanks for your comment. Did you have any problems with your at3 because of the Standard load rating (rather than 'E')? I'm looking into buying the same size but the info in this video holds me back atm.
Brilliant review! In a world of AI generated garbage and thinly disguised advertising, I found this to be both interesting and lively. I'd like to see more. I'm a 95%er, mostly highway though not by choice. It's good to see you define which characteristics I should look for. Do some Tire Rack style driving comparisons, and you will be the best reviewer out there.
MY wife's F150 has the 275/55R20 ATX Grabbers. We've had similar experience. Great in the snow and great tread wear. The road noise has been fine. A little louder than normal touring tires but not much from our experience.
I have 70k on my MT Baja Boss ATs, and at 5/32 down the center and 8/32 on my 2015 Duramax running 295/70/18s, that's pulling a trailer 70% of its life, owning an RV rental company and taking long road trips from Texas to California once a year. These tires are the best all-around tires I have ever owned, hands down. Rain,Mud, Snow, Sand, it just eats it all up. I even pull my 32' RV trailer on the beach in Texas to camp with no problems; it never gets stuck. Those sidewalls are so amazing in sand and mud. Facts they take alot of weights to balance, and have them turn tire on rim and re-balance them. And are heavy tires and lost MPG from prior tires about 1-2 mpg. I'll take the lost to have such a amazing performance tire with 129 load index rating
Have a set of toyo at3s on my chevy 1500 overlander. They are the best all around tires if everd had in 30 years of wheeling. They have 30k miles on them and still have plenty of tread left, they are quite, and they have great traction offroad. My truck doesnt have lockers, but I rarely find myself loosing traction enough to need them. I'll probably be throwing a set of these on my gmc 2500 when its nitos wear out.
I have a 4Runner and have had both the General Grabbers 265/70/17 and the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss 285/70/17 (3" lift required). The Generals were great on road and in snow but not great off-road or in mud. They were on my vehicle when I bought it. I put 18,000 miles on them and they wore well (some minor cupping) with 5000 mile rotation. I sold them (still plenty of tread left) when I added the lift and bought the Baja Boss. I have had the Baja Boss about 17,000 miles so far. They are larger and much heavier so I lost about 2MPG. They are surprisingly good on road and in rain/snow. Only slightly louder than the Generals and they were pretty quiet. They are far better off road and I feel very confident with their toughness. I don't do a lot of rock crawling, mostly camping and Overlanding but I have had them in rocks, sand, mud, snow and many dirt/gravel rutted roads. The tread isn't cut or damaged and seems to be wearing well without much increase in noise. It seems my experience is similar to yours. I haven't used the others but have heard good things about the Wildpeaks from people in my 4Wheeling groups. Nice to see an actual long term test on tires without the corporate spin. Keep up the good work! Maybe we will see each other on the trails someday...Traveling Man.
For the M/T are you running a E-rated tire or the Standard Load? Wondering if I can get away with SL to compensate for some of that weight (49 lbs for the SL vs 65 lbs per tire for the E). I currently have E-rated KO2 275/70/17 weighing about 55 lbs a piece so hesitant on further degrading the mileage and straining other components with an additional 40 lbs weight all around. Thanks in advance.
I have a 2011 GMC 1500 and currently run General AT W and it has been a good tire. I buy 8 or 10 ply’s for my half ton because I have had 50 cent piece sized holes punch through Light Truck tires. Have not had a flat since going to 8 or 10s. Previous to this I had Cooper AT/W and found them to handle significantly better on road than the General (very spongy on road) and do better off-road as well, especially in deep snow. I can’t really speak to mud performance as I don’t do a lot of mud wheeling. The Generals were about $300 less per tire than the Cooper, so there is that. Got similar mileage out of both, but due for a new pair. Great video, might be going to the Mickey Thompson for my next set.
Awesome vid! I'm running the Goodyear MTs (35s) that are the OEM bronco tire on my f150. I get people asking why did I choose that tire when there are better off-road tires, but it does what I need. 85% road, 15% hold my beverage, and it is light for a 35. If I kick up the off-road usage, then I'll be looking at those Mickey Ts!
I have a 2020 ZR2 and I'm thinking about switching to the MT Baja Boss AT from KO2s. I've had good performance with the KO2s in every category except tread wear. Please let me know if you have any experience with KO2s in comparison to the MT's.
@jaimebrown1746 For a long time, KO2s were my go-to. One of my biggest complaints with them was definitely wear. The other thing that bothered me with them was the wet roads. They seem to break free more than I tend to want unless I'm trying to break free. I did get better mpg's with them though. I live in Colorado, so one annoyance is the clay mud. It doesn't shed from the KO2s and they end up being slicks, which can be sketchy. With the MT Baja, I'm about 45k with this set and have ~20-30% tread left. It is significantly better in wet conditions and honestly most other situations other than slightly a bit more noise, which is minimal. Only debate I have with myself is running these E rated again for the extra protection in the sidewall or going with the STD ( Standard Load) for significant weight savings. That would definitely gain me some MPGs and some acceleration. The part that worries me with that is we have a lot of sharp square edge, shaley rock. And the MT Baja boss look so tough on our trucks lol
@jaimebrown1746 Forgot to mention, our trucks definitely kick mud and everything else out all over the sides of them. That being said, the MT Bajas don't help that a single bit lol. I'm running the Rokblokz mud flap and they help but.... still 🤷♂️. Lastly, I'm running the kibbetech ucs, which are beefy and have more material at the Knuckle. To clear that I had to run spacer to clear the extra sidewall meat on the E rated version. 1.25 borla spacer. So shit gets dirty quick 😒
@@colorado-sam7638 Thanks for the info! I live in CO too, and I'm moving from the Springs to about 8700 in elevation. I have a Bison ZR2 and it came with 33" KO2s from the previous owner. I had to do some minor trimming and it definitely slings shit everywhere: packed door handles and slung mud over the cab on a ranch up in Northern CO! I do some wheeling with a Rubicon and an FJ so I'm glad these are E rated. I share your concern on the rocks. I've been looking at KO3s, but can only get them C rated in my size. That should be plenty durable enough on our little trucks, but I'll only try them if BFG honors the milage warranty and I get them cheap. Otherwise I think I'll try the MT Baja Bosses. Thank again!
Been using General Grabber AT2s on my Subaru Forester in northern new mexico where I drive in the snow for 4 months a year. Put them on over 40k miles ago and they have at least half of the tread left. I got stuck in the snow one with generic tires and said no thank you. Got these and now its hard to break loose doing donuts in the snow =/ however, cruising up the mountain in questionable conditions is fun instead of scary. I have to try to slide (for fun) and its not easy. However, i watched this video for advice on what AT tires to get for my f250 slide in truck camper weighing 10k lbs. I need tires that WILL NOT POP cause I never want to try changing a tire alone in the forest without cell service. Any advice for a high weight capacity AT tire? I really just drive to the forest in that thing but drive on muddy, snowy, rocky, gnarly roads. Thanks.
Currently running General Grabber ATX 255/70/R18. 3000 mi on it so far. Love it. Tread still good as new. I am looking forward to playing in the snow with it.
Mickey Thompson Baja boss at. They are amazing tires, in the dry, rain, winter, mud and soft ground. Not much road noise either. They perform way better than you would think for the tread design. Personally will by them again. And highly recommend them.
Good review. Honest stuff, I've only ran the ko2 amd toyo at3. The toyo is the best I've ever ran, my 2011Ram sport 4x4 is a highway runner runner mostly because of work all over. I got 60k plus miles on my current toyos at3 and drive hard and corner hard, and have 3 winters on them, like the video. Good stuff.
@milesruby3271 they work great in the rain. Seem to have great grip in all season's and conditions. Best tire I've ran. I got 70k on my first pair . A person might be able to get 75k out of them if rotated and drove easy. I drive them a bit hard , pull a boat. And are quite for what they are.
@Humborg1 thats good to hear, ive got a frontier pro4x that i need to get a new set on. Primarily road use, i live on a gravel road and will do some light off road stuff but main issues would be rain and occasional southern Ohio snow. So they seem like i cant go wrong with them. There s just so many damn options
I am really surprised why the Nokian Outpost AT is not included in this tire test? They are really good AT tires with kevlar on all 3 sides and I'm sure they can compete with any of the tires in your tire review videos.
Nokias is famous for amazing snow tires… their AT is still very snow and wet focused… I am sure it is amazing at that… trad wise it isn’t very aggressive for off-road… so probably a killer winter ski adventure tire, great road tire, great mileage warranty… mid to low aggressive for pure off-road. My guess is it’s probably a great tire… just not for my use out in the west.
@OutdoorAuto No the Outpost AT is not a winter tire. I use them as a summer tire (3 season tire) on my overland rigged Land Cruiser. I have been driving them on absolutely all kinds of surfaces and conditions and they've been great. I love the peace of mind with the kevlar on all 3 sides. The Outpost tread pattern has the same level of aggression as the KO2s so they should perform and compete at the same level. Actually when AT tires are sold here in Northern Scandinavian countries, they are described as "Not suitable for winter driving in Nordic countries", even those with the snowflake three peak mountain marking example the Outpost AT, KO2s and more. No AT tire can perform on winter roads as dedicated winter tires. As winter tires I use the "Nokian Hakkapeliitta 10 SUV". Check them out....
I think the Cooper at3 is a ok for occasional of road and very good on road especially in wet and exceptionally good for towing and hauling. I think it is one of the most underrated at tires. I think they also build the Mickey Thompson tires?
I put the 31.5" Baja Boss A/T in an SL rating on my Tacoma and could not be happier. I am mostly on-road and these tires are very impressive. They come in at 42# and unlike most SL rated tires these still have 3 ply sidewalls.
@OutdoorAuto does the rating matter that much? I need tires for my mail delivery rav4 but all the D rated tires are stupid high, and the last set only lasted 20k miles. Would an SL or XL last at 50% rough dirt roads?
Hey guys, great channel. Recently bought new tires for my nissan armada. Tire pickings were slim, and i had to go from Salt Lake to Reno and back the following monday. Lol. Got notified Saturday morning. So i went with the Big O A/T 2. My previous firestone A/T's. Were done. I've tried to find reviews about the Big O Bigfoot AT 2's. But there's not a lot out there. I got to say the tires did great drove really nice and seems to do well in the snow and rain.. But did i make a bad choice? Thank you!!
I love the cooper AT3’s great traction over a wide range quiet on the highway. Only tire iv ever got over 30,000 miles out of my last set i got 50,000 miles and im hard on tires.
I had the Grabber ATx on my RAM 1500. I found that they wore VERY quickly. They were OK in mud. Wet performance lacked and got a lot worse as the tires wore. They were loud. And I didn't find they soaked up the bumps, as you mentioned. *shrug* Now I am looking for a new set of tires for my new truck. I have street Dueler H/L Alenza which just look so whimpy on a truck. LOL
Currently running the Mickey Thompson A/T’s and they’re great tires. Great wet pavement traction, sand, mud, and snow. Couple things I don’t like is they’re heavy so fuel mileage and performance is down and they throw rocks otherwise I love them!
Agree with your review as I've ran them for close to a year now myself. I'll add to your review if I may that when it comes to hauling a load they have zero issues I've found so far. As far as in the mud, well they are Micky Thompson's. What does one expect but to do as they please and not need a wench or anything else to pull you out because your tire couldn't clear itself or dig hard enough. I've had a 16 foot car trailer along with my truck bed loaded down with big oak tree. We had an 8 in snow a few days prior that melted off sloppong up a real nice field of soft mud. I found myself being 16 again vs the 40 plus year old I'm suppose to be lol. Best tire I've ever owned and pretty sure they will be same tire I buy again.
Interesting about the Falken Wildpeaks. We run the A/T Trails on our Subaru Ascent. We've done numerous offroad trips (thousands of miles now?), including part of the BDR trails in Utah (through Moab as well) and Washington state. We've taken them through mud, dirt, rock, gravel, dry and wet, everything in between and they have been absolutely amazing. Performed far better than I ever expected, until..... last weekend, we took them with a group up into the fresh powder (about 18" fresh and actively snowing). A Toyota Tacoma was lead vehicle (we were first on the trail, so the Tacoma was plowing), we were 8th out of 9 vehicles and we were the only vehicle to get stuck (3 times!), had to get a pull out each time. Everyone else had zero issues. So in the snow, these were very underwhelming. However, I am about to buy the Wildpeak AT3W within a day or two for another deeper snow run (probably closer to 2ft deep). I'm expecting a lot (of snow performance) out of the AT3W, we are also going from 245/60R18 to 265/60R18, so more sidewall and about 1" taller overall (29.6" up to 30.5"). Not huge tires by any means, but much deeper tread, slightly wider and taller. I think this will allow us to air down a bit more than usual too and also help us float on top of the snow a bit better. We plan on continuing to put miles on our A/T Trails (spring/summer/fall) and use the AT3W for winters until the A/T Trails are used up, then just run the AT3W year-round.
Sounds like a solid plan... snows is tricky because it can present itself so many ways... I was just out in over 2 feet of snow that was pure unpackable dust... it was sub zero so nothing would stick... it was like driving in moon dust and pretty much no tire had traction... aired down to 2 PSI and just had to try to float as long as I could. We got stuck a lot...
I had a set of these and try were awesome! No matter the weather or terrain conditions, they never had any surprises. They just performed and rode really nice.
Toyo A/T 3 .vs MT Baja Boss A/T ? I have a stock F-250 supercrew currently running Toyo A/T 2, 275/65/20. 80% highway driving, 20% off-road gravel and 2 track dirt roads. Also I live in the Sierra Nevada foothills and do a fair amount of winter snow and ice driving throughout Northern Cal. In addition I have a 28’ travel trailer I tow. Thoughts and insight appreciated.
I have ran duratrac tires on my trucks since 2010 and i have never had a problem with them, i run them on half tons that don’t haul much and I also run them on my duramaxes that very often pull 10000-25000lbs and they last very well
I also run Sailun terramax AT’s and they have been amazing tire’s especially for their price point, great on ice, snow and in mud. Dry conditions I have never seen an issue with them either especially running 10ply
I have 84,000 miles on my 285/70/17 ko/2's and am ordering a new set today (5th set ive owned, and i am 100% never changing to a different tire) The ONLY thing better than these is the original BFG all-terrain's i use to buy for my tacoma, that they no longer make! Ive pulled bolts, nails, screws out of the tread without having to repair them, no leaks. Ive scuffed the sidewalls on extreme trail rides and never had a gash/roll off/cut that caused concern. I run these on 2 vehicles: 2000 jeep xj and a 2003 toyota sequoia, both are modified for off-road use.
Very interesting and well done video. Have you thought about rating the tires on a 1-10 score with respect to the different categories (wet, snow, ice, mud, wear, sidewall, etc.) in any future tests? That may help your viewers decide which tire will be best for specific application. Keep up the good work!
I've tried a handful of AT tires. Nitto Ridge Grapplers, Terra Grapplers, Cooper ATP II, Dick Cepek Trail Country EXP, and recently have General Grabber ATX. The Coopers were my favorite AT road tire, the Dick Cepek were my favorite AT/Hybrid tire for off-road. I have just shy of 4k miles on the General Grabber ATX that I got because I moved to the PNW from CA. They may be my favorite tires, we'll see once I can start off-roading with them.
Love your reviews. Always well reasoned and informative! I am running load range E Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT's on my Tundra. I wanted solid road performance, a snowflake rating, and the ability to do the occasional Backcountry Discovery Route or similar type off highway driving. I was between the Coopers and ATx's and went with the Coopers based on my local tire prices. I am very satisfied for my use case but would consider going with a more aggressive tire if I spent more time off road or in rougher conditions than I have faced so far.
I ran Coopers on an S-10 late 90’s early 2000’s. Excellent mileage for tires that didn’t come with a mileage warranty at the time. I now have a set of STT Pros for the winter primarily during hunting season. Decent on the road, minimal noise and only notice the lugs at low speeds. Hope to try them out in the snow this winter. On a 03 Duramax.
@@OutdoorAuto I have a set of the Cooper Discoverer AT3 4s on my 2021 Ram. 275/55R20 I like them so far, but haven't had a chance to run them in snow yet.. (soon) Only had them for a month now, and only on dry/wet pavement so far. Shop around on those, Most places were $260-300 per tire, but I found them for $200 on sale online, and my local tire shop price matched it with no questions.
I like the Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT on my first gen Tacoma, which are great on road with low noise, and have been awesome for me in dirt, wet, and snow. Siping is excellent. Wear is OK but I neglect them and don’t rotate as often as I should. Still got 40k out of them before two of them got worn all the way down (my truck cannot keep alignment). Haven’t tried many other AT options so curious how they stack up against the ones he’s reviewed.
@@JohnDough-d6o hey , I’m in Manitoba where it’s like -30 to -40 with 5ths of snow for months at a time and was wondering how you made out with your tires once the snow came ? I am also looking at buying these same tires. Thanks
I run the Micky's Baja Boss 's on my F250. Love them. Quite for what it is, handles really good on the road. They shine offroad. We have to drive down gravel caliche roads which chew up regular tires but these are holding up well. I can with these tires run 60mph down them no problem. Offroad on the ranch with the cactus and the mesquite thorns, and mud, rocks, and general bad road conditions they have held up and perform well. Only negative is the weight and reduced fuel miles but its worth it.
So far my favorites have been the KO2s I’ve only had 3 sets of tires in my driving life. Getting close to having to choose a number 4. Thank you so much for sharing all the detailed information and personal experience. My current Rankings are: 1.KO2 (Favorite) 2. Maxis (what I have currently) 3. Cooper AT3s (Would never buy again)
Firestone XT are hands down the best Street AT tire. In mud they do amazing and one of the only tires where the tire sipes go all the way through the tread. I have had them all!!! JMO
Great video as usual. The honest comparisons are really helpful. Its almost time for me to get some new tires. Ive been a KO2 fan for a couple years but it looks like there may be better options out there now for my uses.
That general grabber was absolutely terrible in water and snow on my f150. It was near new under5k tire on the vehicle when i bought it and i was constantly finding the tire loose traction on highway with any amount of water.
The MT Baja Boss A/T has the exact same carcass and sidewall as the Baja Boss M/T. Hands down the BB A/T is the toughest all terrain out there. I have them and they are phenomenal!
I agree. I got them last summer and they are really a jack of all trades. They are better off road, as well as wet and snow than my KO2’s. The BFG’s are still better on road in dry conditions IMO. The MPG hit is noticeable due to the weight but I’m never going to get great mileage regardless so I that wasn’t a dealbreaker for me. I did get 2 punctures despite their durability, both were huge screws/bolts that would have punctured any passenger vehicle tire and were repaired and have been fine since. I’d say the only downside is that they are difficult to balance as I had to take them back to the tire shop a 2nd time. That being said I can’t recommend them enough. One other thing to note is that in the 285/70/17 size they are true 33” tires where as the KO2 and some others are 32.6” which may matter to some.
@@sevendewey yeah the screw punctures are unavoidable. They are heavy but with that it’s a trade off for durability. Mine had no issues with balancing.
Got a good chuckle when you mentioned that you have to pay attention to the inside of the tire in the new Mickey Thompsons. Unless you are removing the tire from the rim, the tire will always be on the inside, regardless of where the tire is on the vehicle. Good review my man.
One thing I have found is that generally aggressive tread serves me well in the winter since when I am driving through a ditch or field in the snow as soon as I spin I am in dirt or mud.
I'm really interested in the Milestar XT. But I've been growing more and more interested in the new baja boss as well. I've got some time still to decide.
I have been using the Grabber ATX as my dedicated winter tire set in the Northeast. It performs great on my 1/2 ton truck getting me to work and back during these brutal winter storms we get. 5 winters of wear on them now and they still have 87.5 percent tread left so is using only 2.5% tread life up per winter which is pretty good.
I greatly appreciate your knowledge and attention to detail when explaining the tech behind these tires. I've been building my rig for the past year now and Im getting close to being ready for new tires and thanks to your video, I believe I see a set of Mickey Thompsons in my future
If you’re watching this video wondering what tires to buy…get the Mickey thompsons. You won’t regret it. I’ve got them on my F-150 and will put them on again when this first set wears out. They’re a Great all around tire. Snow, Mud, Sand, wet roads etc. BUY the Mickey thompsons!
I didn't know a new Duratrac is coming, can't wait. The thing with the original Duratrac is that it's such an awesome tire DESPITE there being better performing tires out there. I'd like to try out a different tire next but the problem is that it's a gamble. Duratracs are a safe bet and readily available (at least where I live). That's why I'm on my second set. I'll most likely try the new version next.
I have worked in the oil patch in Alberta for 35 years, so about 60% off pavement in the summer and a lot of ice roads in the winter, and driving in deep snow. I switched from the BF s ATs to the Duratrac's about 8 years ago. I find them better in the snow and ice, they suck in the mud just like the BFs. I run E rated tires and have not had a blow out yet. They are the best all round tire I have run. It is better though to have two sets of rims and tires and run mud tires in the summer and a good winter tire for the ice roads.
@@riverratt8626 That's interesting. In my experience their weakness is slippery conditions (i.e. ice, thin slush, rain). I don't do a lot of mudding but they've been fine in the mud that I've taken them through. Most likely differences in our geography. Agree two sets of tires is always better but Duratrac is a great all-rounder.
Just finished up a set of Wildpeaks, running KO2’s on the wife’s rig, but had to give the Baja Boss AT’s a shot this time around. so far really impressed with road manners for how aggressive the tire is. Looking forward to see how they handle snow.
GOODYEAR WRANGLER ULTRATERRAIN A/T 265 /70 R16 112S SL SBL I put these on my 2000 4runner when I first got it and they do great on and offroad. Super quiet, have avoided many accidents from other stupid drivers. Grippy offroad. Would recommend.
Baja boss MT 60k miles in 2 years takes on every weather situation with confidence and no cupping or irregular wear! Will buy again and again and again.
After 4 years of the Nitto Recon Grapplers, I decided to step up to the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss cause of everything good I’ve heard about the tire. Just received them yesterday and I must say they are quite a bit taller than the ones coming off and they are the same size. I’m getting rid of the Nittos cause of the problem with them dry rotting and my truck is garage kept a lot. Known problem of Nittos. I hope I made the right choice.
Regarding the sand comment. I have a set of General Grabber ATX 265/70/17 115s on a 2009 GMC Canyon Z71 4x4. I took this set up thru some very deep, long and steep sandy areas at a desert lake in Mew Mexico. The area is notoriously known for getting peoples vehicles stuck in the sand. Tires were a little over a year old with about 15k miles on them, so fairly newish still. They did really well the entire time. While I did feel myself digging in and bogging down some on the steep uphill slopes, I never got stopped or stuck, I just kept on the gas, and it kept pulling thru. It was worth noting that the truck was in 4x4 hi, and the truck was equipped with 4.10 gearing, a g80 rear locker, and a 5.3L V8 engine with 320 ft lbs torque. Somewhat aggressive drive train for a small/midsized compact pickup. Side note that the tires overall have been great in all conditions off and on road from mud, snow, ice, rocks, wet and dry and desert sand. They have been very quiet overall as well. However, started getting noisy just this month with about 35k miles on them. I did, however, go double time on my rotation the last 10k and did experience some minor cupping. Very minimal, however, considering not rotating them. Also, since the truck has a solid rear axle, once I rotated them they immediately started to even out on the back eliminating the minor cupping. Road noise has been improving as the cupping evens out.
Sand is really tough to talk about because there are so many factors, like how course the sand is... but also Humidity and moisture content is absolutely a game changer. Down in Hurricane, Utah (Matts Off-Road Recovery area) a spot can go from easy to impossible just based on heat and humidity.
As soon as you stated that the Toyo was better in wet weather than the KO2 you lost me. My experience have been exactly opposite. And the Toyo is much, much noisier than the KO2.
100% I had a set of toyos and they where terrible in wet and litterally unusable in the snow spent 2k on em n sold em after 1 snow they where that bad. Went to the ko2s n will never go back
I really want the 255/85R17 Baja Boss for my 23 GMC Dually, buttttt, they won't fit without spacers on the rear because the sidewall lugs stick out so far that the tires will rub. At 34.5 inches tall, they would be cool!
Great video, I'm running the toyo at3 37x12.5r18 on my 3500 at4, so far they've worked awsome. I had the bfg at ko2 on before but were toast in 10k miles. I live off a rough dirt road and constantly deal with thick mud and snow, the bfg works better in the mud but everywhere else the toyo is far better, especially when towing. Gonna put the falken on the wife's yukon next week and see how they work over the up comming winter. Used the bfgs for years but considering how fast they dissolved on my truck and almost similar on my yukon I'm finally trying new stuff and I'm liking it.
I really do like the Toyo AT3 for the heavy duty "Job site" trucks... some of the best off-road AT tires I think are so off-road focused they cant hold up on the heavy duty trucks sometimes... but that is a bit of a blind spot for me... I don't have anything bigger then a 1/2 ton.
I live in Michigan and I regularly go off road in some pretty tough mud and clay, to get back to my hunting and fishing spots in northern Michigan. I do no rock climbing and I have never driven off road in a desert. I air down from 33psi (paved roads) to 20psi for my off-road excursions in Michigan. I have noticed that airing down any lower risks getting sand in the bead from the tires rocking side to side while in rough, heavily rutted muddy/watery terrain, causing bead leaks (mostly on my heavier Chevy truck). I also travel a lot on snowy roads in the winter. I am on my 4th set of Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs (2 different 4x4s), purchasing the latest in October 2023 -- 2 sets on my old '04 Chevy Tahoe Z71 4x4 (w/ G80 rear locker), and 2 sets on my 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Diesel (w/ Offroad Adventure II II/Quadra-Drive II). Have crashed offroad, and even once broke a rear axle on the Chevy getting back to my hunting spot, but I have never had a sidewall issue with any of the Duratracs (so far), and they stay remarkably quiet until about 40,000 miles after which I notice they do get louder on dry pavement at highway speeds. I change them out by 50K or a little sooner. For my type of off road/on road travel, I have yet to find a year-around all-terrain tire that (would appear to) perform as well -- warm weather/snowy winter/muddy off-road -- as the Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs actually do for me. My local tire shop still recommends the Duratracs over the other all-terrain tires for my type of driving on the relatively "light" vehicles that I am driving -- no "super heavy-duty" pickup trucks.
Great review. Im going to be putting some 33's on my Tacoma and anything i can do to save weight is huge. The toyo open ct 3 are 54 pounds load E while the ko3's are 56 pounds load range C. That alone has me leaning to the Toyos to try to keep my mpg up as much as possible.
I liked your presentation. I watched because I am looking for a tire for my 99 wrangler. I mostly drive on the road but, in the summer I do a lot of beach driving. I bought it used with cooper discovers on it. These tires are hard and bouncy on the road and dig into the sand. Would 2 ply be better for airing down. Any suggestions? What do you think about Federal Explora line of tires.
Loved the video. Great mix of information and entertainment/production value to keep me engauged and interested the entire time. Probably one of the best tire review videos on TH-cam that didn't feel like a tire "sales" video. One part that I found very interesting was that you placed the Gen. Grabber ATX above the Wildpeak AT3W for snow performance, given how popular and widely regarded the AT3W is for its wet/snow performance, that's a pretty big achievement to be had for the Grabber ATX. I was just surprised by this, because in my opinion the General Grabbers appearance is very unasumming and I didn't expect it to have as outstanding snow performance as you state that it does in the video.
I have the BF Goodrich trail terrains and love them they are great on road off road and especially in the snow I have 50 k on mime and they still have a lot of tread on them
Nokian makes fantastic tires. I have run their snow tires on several cars in the past. The Outpost nAT looks like an aggressive all weather tire. I don't see it as a major competitor to true off-road focused tires but it is a solid tire for the occasional weekend warrior that deals with a lot of Inclement weather driving conditions... I may need to take another look at them if I could ever get solid information on their sidewalls... Nokian's website doesn't list a lot of important stats like that.
I would love to hear what you have to say about the Nitto Recon Grapplers. I have a Ram 2500 with 37s on a Carli lift and while I do love my General ATX’s currently on the truck, I’ve had a HORRIBLE experience with vibrations and balancing, I had them before the lift and 37s and had an issue with a broken belt as well. Looking for an all terrain that’s balanced for like 85% on road, 15% moderate off road and very little to no winter driving. Recon Grapplers especially grabbed my attention because the offer 37x11.5R17, no one else seems to offer an 11.5 wide at the moment.
I have Goodyear Duratracs, I have really beat those tires up, from several trails in Colorado including Black bear pass to Moab and I’ve had no complaints. My next set will probably be Wildpeaks though, I like what I’ve heard about them
My grabber ATX's have been wonderful. I have 265-70-17s (e rated) on my 4runner. I have pulled trailers, hauled my dual sport on my hitch, been up and down miles of logging roads and put 78k miles on them. Probably had another 15k on them but my shocks went out and they started cupping really bad. I found them to be quiet and comfortable, but they are also the first AT tire I've run. I know comfort is subjective so for reference, my daily driver is a 2500HD work van on e rated tires, and my better half has a mustang with the track package. None of our vehicles are "soft" riding.
I was going to buy the Toyo at3 until I watched this video. So thanks for all the information, first of all. Unfortunately, the at3 comes with different specifications for each size and my required size (215/75r15) doesn't have the load E rating and therefore without reinforced sides. Can you recommend any other tire in that size apart from the overly expensive bf Goodrich t/a ko2? Thanks in advance
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I have Baja Boss A/T on my Ram 1500. They are the 34" tire. I just drove on I80 in Wyoming in a snow storm. The highway was closed but Highway Patrol let us go to Laramie from Cheyenne. For some distance it was not plowed and had six inches of snow on top of ice. They were phenomenal. Zero slipping. We had to drive around some semi's in deeper snow and a soft shoulder. Zero issue. I have also used them up in the mountain on bigger rocks. I absolutely would buy these tires again. I have had them for about 12000 miles and they are wearing great.
@jeffallen9729
Thanks for posting your experience, they sound like a great tire. Did you have any of the issues with balancing I have heard about?
How about fuel mileage?
I have been selling tires for over 35 years, I love tire reviews and I try to test as many tires as I can so I can recommend good tires to my customers. My favorite tire of all time is the Mickey Thompson Baja A/T, it excels in snow, eats mud for breakfast and is reasonably quiet. My last set was on a 2017 Chevy 3500 Diesel in 295/70R18 and I loved the tire. It is a heavy tire, but there is a lot of rubber on the ground. I ran numerous sets of Goodyear Duratracs and frankly I didn't think it was that great in the mud, and it seemed to wear quickly towing heavy on a diesel truck. When the tire got to about 50% wear, traction was poor. I am testing some Toyo R/T Trails on my current GMC 3500 Dually and so far they are doing well. I have pulled heavy trailers for over 1000 miles and the last trip was 300 miles of snow packed roads and the tire excelled in places where the snow was a little deeper on the highway. Hard pack snow and ice was about what you could expect, reasonable. I have always been a fan of the General Grabber ATX with studs for snow use and I agree with your conclusions about them. I have several sets of Toyo A/TIII on the road on customers vehicles right now and so far they like them. I also have many sets of BFG KO2's out there and some love them and some don't. As for mud tires, one of my favorites is the Mickey Thompson MTZ, I just put another set of 35-12.50-15's on my Jeep TJ and they set the bar in the mud especially when driven at around 10 psi.
First of all thanks for this comment and putting in all the effort. I think comments like this are super helpful for people trying to figure out what tires to consider… I really appreciate it.
Thanks for info
I am looking for new tyres for my Prado (I think in the US your equivalent is a GX ?) 2:52 and this info is very helpful
Cheers (from Oz)
How does your TJ handle those heavy tires? Regeared?
How much heavier is heavy Most tyres wheight about the same for size? If you go 35" the standard Dana 35 might be overwhelmed, a 44 can take it if you don't go crazzy, Push it to the limit get a Dana 60, Personaly for camping normal offroading a 33 Dia tire will get you everywhere(Reinforced sidewalls and biters a Plus, Rocks and roots will punture a sidewall) .And a standard engine will still be powerfull enough. Anyway if you need traction/power remember you have 4 Low with large tyres. Regearing isn't a priority, but if you only got 1 car for everything a 4.11 gear might help with 33" and mileage. Ups forgot to mention Get a STANDARD 5 Spd Tranny@@mlife2
How many miles did the Bajas last?
I love my Toyo A/T3s and you are absolutely correct about their pros and cons. However I will say they are absolutely perfect in the sand and very good in unplowed snow. Wet is surprisingly bad.
Your reviews are unbiased, subbed
I really don't have a favorite manufacturer... they all are pretty much competing and constantly leap frogging each other... makes it easy to be unbiased
Wet weather is only thing holding me back in Toyo. Love the lighter weight
I have had the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss since 2021 on my f150 and have about 45,000 miles on them and they still have a good amount of tread. They have been amazing. I’ve done deep sand, mountain snow roads, desert hard pack, and mild mountain rock climbing and have never had issues. Even pull a 7,000 lb toy hauler and they are very stable
Of all of the videos I watch about overlanding gear and equipment, I truly believe you do the best reviews. You don't give any indication of your preference, while just providing an honest, straight forward assessment of any product you're discussing. I've been watching tire videos for the past 12 months and I'm about to buy a set. The two videos you did on AT tires are the best. You've helped me make my decision. Thanks for the work you put into your videos!
This makes my day… I really have never been a “brand preference” person. No one company can dominate at everything… so it really comes down to personal use. Lots of good tires out there just need to pick the one that matches your use. Trying to help people figure that out… not doing it perfectly… but trying 🤷♂️
Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT. Hands downs the best tire. Made in America on top of that 🇺🇸. Can’t go wrong with a set of these.
I'm getting some
Don't haul heavy loads with them. Had two them come apart on me carrying 6 tons. One went an hour after the first one did. Lad range E less at 70 psi. Less then 10, 000 miles rough back to installer who in turn contacted Mickey Thompson. Basically told to go fly a kite. So I took the other two off sold them on Facebook and Bought the Toyo A/T 3 and have run them and have been thrilled to death by them.
I bought Toyo AT3s with the help of this video. You said be honest with your use. I’m a 90% road guy and a weekend fire road explorer. Previous tire was Toyo MT and absolutely hated them. Loved the look but I hated them once the weather turned bad in Reno. I literally would drive my minivan before my 4x4 truck in the winter. To be fair I bought the MTs used for half price so it was a money thing lol. Learned a lot.
How are the AT3s in wet weather? Road noise? Handling / comfort? E load?
@@TacoRancher I live in Reno so I had the opportunity to experience them last winter when it rained and snowed all over the Reno Tahoe Carson City area. They handled very well in both rain and snow. I’m guessing it because the new tread pattern has much more sipping and the block pattern is tighter than the mud terrains. Snow needs to stick to the treads to make them any good. That’s why my mud terrains absolutely sucked prior to these ATs.
I was a huge KO2 fan boy for a long time and decided to make the switch to the Baja Boss AT after seeing how aggressive they looked. I could'nt be happier, they ride super smooth and are still quiet on the highway. I get tons of compliments on them.
I know people love to argue about tires... but it seems like almost everyone can agree they are awesome looking tire.
How are they in wet snow? My wildpeaks fishtailed pretty bad last weekend but might just be because how big the tires are on a light truck
@alexs825 they've been truly impressive in everything. I'm extremely impressed. Ima try out new ko3 next and stick whichever I like best.
@@jwatt95 yea I woulda had the Baja boss but they didn’t know how to produce them when I was buying. Gave up after 3 months
@alexs825 got mine from a local shop. They also have 80k miles on them with 10/32 left. Had 18/32. 7000 pound yukon denali from the added weight and I also tow often.
Mickey Thompson ride is smooth on the road and aggressive off-road ride and appeal
Recently bought thr Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T and theyve been very quiet, aggressive during a trip to the most remote town in the lower 48, Jarbidge, Nevada. Miles and miles of dirt track/forest service road, up and down some steep sections, and switchbacks. Very sure footed and no drama. Now we've had a bit of snow, and it crunched over snow and crusty ice without any delay. Just drive with reasonable prudence and you won't have any problems.
@ms.annthrope415
Any update on how the MTs are still doing?
These are probably my next tire, I live in the PNW and spend a lot of time all over remote areas in the PNW, SW and everywhere in between sand, snow, rocks, washboards, washouts etc. and this tire seems like it checks all the boxes for me.
Still love the Baja Boss ATs, but haven't had many chances to go off thr paved roads. It has killed my mileage by about 2.5 mpg on my F250 diesel. I can accept then trade off if I drove much more off road or exploring more this year. But I've been more house bound 2024 so I'm not able to go out and play.
@@travisbeckett578 mine only last 38k miles and I need to replace them. Rotated about every 10k miles (should’ve done more) and got uneven wear.
Just to be clear about the Baja Boss and tire rotations, as long as they are mounted to the rim with the outside out, they will rotate to any corner of the vehicle. Excellent Video!
Yup… they aren’t directional… just a designated inside
Falken wild peak, great off road, great on ice and snow, city of hwy. Gas milage is pretty good aswell
Theyve been discontinued for some reason, of course right as i was going to get a set
@@milesruby3271it's been replaced with the AT4W
At4 was a balance issue going on right now
Also so heavy
I run General ATX in the mountains of NH. Lots of snow and forest service roads. Love it!
Love them too, I run a 10 ply. no issues in snow either. Great in the wet too.
I'm a Toyo / Falken guy. I hate the BFG KO2 due to seeing them stuck in wet grass way to many times. I have to say those Mickey Thompsons interest me.
Hands-down, this is some of the best off-road tire content that I’ve ever seen. Well done guys, keep up the good work.
Your last comment when ending your video: "I hope this was helpful". Well, it was very helpful and probably one of the best reviews on any of the 4 tires you covered that I've watched on TH-cam and I've watched a quite a few videos. Very thorough and well done. Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback... glad it helped someone 🙏 Thanks for watching.
I bought a set of the baja boss AT's back in April of 2022, and they've been great for me, they're surprisingly quiet and smooth on the road, I put 500 miles a week on them consistently and they have done very well in the snow, ice, wet roads, slush, puddles, and off road. I will be getting another pair!
How many miles did you get out of them? Considering those as well as R/T Trails and not sure which route to go with. I drive 20k miles a year and need 40k from my tires.
@camaroboi13 I'm a little over 42,000 miles on them and they are just about at the end of their life they've got a little less than 3/32" of tread above the "wear marks" on the tire. So I'd say they've made it to their 50k mile warranty. It's been almost 2 years since I've got them. My truck is a 2011 Toyota tacoma. The tire size is 265 70 17's load E
Any sort of suspension upgrade on your taco to make them fit? I have 2012 taco with bilstein 5100s/OME 885 springs and AAL in the rear but stock UCAs. I just ordered the MT Bajas in the same size and was just curious. My wildpeaks rub at full lock.
@willdembik688 no sir! I just have stock suspention they're just barely shy of 32" tall
@@trevorj.8401 thank you for your input 👍
Falken Wildpeak AT3W has my vote. I live out in the country and you have to drive through dirt and gravel road to get to the black top. Don't think there's a better well balanced tire than that.
I can't get enough of tire comparisons. Mfr's keep upgrading their products, and it's hard to keep up without videos like this!
its so true... the designers/engineers that make these things are pretty brilliant
The more I watch these tyre reviews, the more confused I am. Totally incapable of making any decisions 😊
I bought my MT BB AT 37's in Aug of 22 for my 18 2Dr JK daily driver & after 25K, I've been to Ouray (alpine loop), Moab, Hot Springs twice, Smores, Krocks, Tuttle & I have 0 complaints, but the one thing you mentioned is true with mine, lots of weights.
I did 37s as well, but I knew with the weight of the tire I was going straight to balancing beads. Saved me time of balancing them at work when mounting and rotations. I’ve had them up to 80mph with no vibrations.
I was able to find a set of 285/33/16 MT Baja Boss tires for my 22 Bronco. Best AT tire I ever had! Great road manners, quiet and will dig through anything. I did NOT have balancing issues with my set.
Thanks!
Thank you so much.. I really appreciate this.
Thanks for all the info and experience. Very reassuring after i bought the Mickey Thompson At’s in a 37 for my tundra. The sidewall tread sold me along with all of the great reviews. I can say that they are very quiet for how aggressive they look
I’m wasn’t kidding when I said they kind of blew me away… I didn’t think a tire could cover as many bases as this tire did.
I run the Toyo AT3 (E's) on my truck and tow a boat. With that said, I'm mostly highway but appreciate the aggressive tread when i get to my destination since many lake roads are often steep gravel / dirt / tree roots, etc. mix. It seems to do fairly well in heavy rain since the AT3's are fully siped (full lug depth) as opposed to the prior set of Toyo AT2's I ran.
Great review. But I have some constructive criticism. When talking about a tire, instead of saying "this tire" all the time, say the name of the tire. Also, when putting up your pros and cons on the screen, put the name of the tire at the top of the list. Hope you can understand how doing this will enable people to know "which tire" your talking about. Especially people who like to fast fwd thru the video to get to the tire your going to review that they want to hear about. Thanks for understanding.
I agree
Agreed.
Agree
It would certainly be helpful if you are the type to listen to the video more than watching it. Pair those two together and you will have no problem at all🤟🤟
@@Sungie264 so my comment got 3 agrees, and 1 stupid comment saying to listen. Well, thats the problem, he does not speak enough as to what tire he is reviewing. It is "this tire that, this tire that." So listening will do no good if the info is lacking from the start. Your out voted, so keep scrolling.
I have 33inch toyo at3's right now and gonna upgrade in the near future to 35's im in between baja boss and the toyo rt
I recently bought the Baja Boss AT and so far love them. Great ride, quiet and excellent traction everywhere and that’s on a 3/4 dodge diesel. I will definitely buy again if they last the 50k.
This was so helpful! Thank you very much. I currently have the MT ATZ and am looking for my next tyres. It was between the Wildpeaks, KO2 and MT Baja Boss. Now I will buy the Baja Boss’s with some conviction. Thanks again!
First video I've watched of yours....... great job dude! I just installed a set of the Toyo Open Country's on my Tacoma, Pizza Cutter 235/85/R16. I could not be happier with them in the snow of Northern Wisconsin! Keep the vids coming! Cheers
Thats a good tire, ran those on both a 4runner and a Jeep for a while.
I have the Toyo AT3 on my f350 dually. I love um. Ive never had a traction problem on any kind of surface or towing.
Awesome video! Thanks for pointing out that you had a second video (I had commented on your first one)
Can you answer a couple questions out of ALL the tires you tested?
1. What would be your best pick for snow & ice
2. What would your top 3 picks be, based on the best all-around average?
Personally I bought the Baja Boss, I'm mostly on road with lots of winter, but it gets sloppy in spring as well. So far EXTREMELY happy, after coming off years of mud tires.
Also I like that you put the Duratrac guys in their place, all the construction guys run them around here "because they always have"
Thanks again. Awesome content!
I'm going on my third year on the Mickey Thompson Bsja Boss ATs. Amazing off road. Very comparable to my old BFG mud terrains but with a 50k warranty. On the road they are comfortable and not real loud. Best tires I've owned so far on any of my rigs.
I love my General Grabber AT2/ATx. (I'm on my second set) the first set I put 45k miles and still had 40% tread. Definitely recommend.
On my second set of the ATx, got 96.000 kilometers on the first set. I could have left them on for at least 2000 kms more. I live in a wet winter area and are great in the rain. The snow is not a problem at all. !! I run a 10 ply. I don't find a noise issue either.
I bought a set of the General Grabber Atx and im loving them. I drive a 07 Sahara on 33s and they are great for the weekend warrior like me. I only run moderate rated trails and they've handled great!
I have the Toyo OC AT3 on my lifted 05 Subaru WRX in 215/75/15 in northern Michigan and it was fabulous in winter and never left me feeling like I couldn’t travel even in the worst snowstorm. For my application, they felt far superior to the Michelin X Ice I had on for a winter season.
I Just yesterday installed some 255/80/17 (33x10.5) Load E Toyo OC AT3 on my 2005 Sequoia and I’m really looking forward to seeing how they do this winter. I’ll hopefully come back to this comment and update my findings.
I should also say, on my Subaru they made 0 road noise, even at 100+ mph and handled incredibly well at these high speeds surprisingly. The 33’s I just put on my sequoia have about 10k miles on them since I bought them used, but even at 80mph there’s some noise but it’s just as much as the Goodyear Wrangler ATS I had on before. AND each tire balanced out with less than 2oz per tire even after 10k miles on the rear of a dually.
Thanks for your comment. Did you have any problems with your at3 because of the Standard load rating (rather than 'E')? I'm looking into buying the same size but the info in this video holds me back atm.
Brilliant review!
In a world of AI generated garbage and thinly disguised advertising, I found this to be both interesting and lively. I'd like to see more.
I'm a 95%er, mostly highway though not by choice. It's good to see you define which characteristics I should look for.
Do some Tire Rack style driving comparisons, and you will be the best reviewer out there.
I recently bought Toyo Open Country AT 3’s,, FANTASTIC tires ! Like my General Grabber ATX’s but Toyo hands down is the better choice
MY wife's F150 has the 275/55R20 ATX Grabbers. We've had similar experience. Great in the snow and great tread wear. The road noise has been fine. A little louder than normal touring tires but not much from our experience.
I have 70k on my MT Baja Boss ATs, and at 5/32 down the center and 8/32 on my 2015 Duramax running 295/70/18s, that's pulling a trailer 70% of its life, owning an RV rental company and taking long road trips from Texas to California once a year. These tires are the best all-around tires I have ever owned, hands down. Rain,Mud, Snow, Sand, it just eats it all up. I even pull my 32' RV trailer on the beach in Texas to camp with no problems; it never gets stuck. Those sidewalls are so amazing in sand and mud.
Facts they take alot of weights to balance, and have them turn tire on rim and re-balance them. And are heavy tires and lost MPG from prior tires about 1-2 mpg. I'll take the lost to have such a amazing performance tire with 129 load index rating
This was THE BEST tire review video that I’ve ever seen. Thanks!
Wow, thanks 🙏 - it took 6 months to test and make... so I am pretty glad it turned out ok.
@@OutdoorAuto I don’t know how you’ve learned everything along the way but your expertise is really high in all things over landing. Keep it up.
Have a set of toyo at3s on my chevy 1500 overlander. They are the best all around tires if everd had in 30 years of wheeling. They have 30k miles on them and still have plenty of tread left, they are quite, and they have great traction offroad. My truck doesnt have lockers, but I rarely find myself loosing traction enough to need them. I'll probably be throwing a set of these on my gmc 2500 when its nitos wear out.
I have a 4Runner and have had both the General Grabbers 265/70/17 and the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss 285/70/17 (3" lift required). The Generals were great on road and in snow but not great off-road or in mud. They were on my vehicle when I bought it. I put 18,000 miles on them and they wore well (some minor cupping) with 5000 mile rotation. I sold them (still plenty of tread left) when I added the lift and bought the Baja Boss. I have had the Baja Boss about 17,000 miles so far. They are larger and much heavier so I lost about 2MPG. They are surprisingly good on road and in rain/snow. Only slightly louder than the Generals and they were pretty quiet. They are far better off road and I feel very confident with their toughness. I don't do a lot of rock crawling, mostly camping and Overlanding but I have had them in rocks, sand, mud, snow and many dirt/gravel rutted roads. The tread isn't cut or damaged and seems to be wearing well without much increase in noise. It seems my experience is similar to yours. I haven't used the others but have heard good things about the Wildpeaks from people in my 4Wheeling groups. Nice to see an actual long term test on tires without the corporate spin. Keep up the good work! Maybe we will see each other on the trails someday...Traveling Man.
For the M/T are you running a E-rated tire or the Standard Load? Wondering if I can get away with SL to compensate for some of that weight (49 lbs for the SL vs 65 lbs per tire for the E). I currently have E-rated KO2 275/70/17 weighing about 55 lbs a piece so hesitant on further degrading the mileage and straining other components with an additional 40 lbs weight all around. Thanks in advance.
I would go with SL rated. I have E rated and they are heavy and overkill for a 4Runner
I have a 2011 GMC 1500 and currently run General AT W and it has been a good tire. I buy 8 or 10 ply’s for my half ton because I have had 50 cent piece sized holes punch through Light Truck tires. Have not had a flat since going to 8 or 10s. Previous to this I had Cooper AT/W and found them to handle significantly better on road than the General (very spongy on road) and do better off-road as well, especially in deep snow. I can’t really speak to mud performance as I don’t do a lot of mud wheeling. The Generals were about $300 less per tire than the Cooper, so there is that. Got similar mileage out of both, but due for a new pair. Great video, might be going to the Mickey Thompson for my next set.
Awesome vid! I'm running the Goodyear MTs (35s) that are the OEM bronco tire on my f150. I get people asking why did I choose that tire when there are better off-road tires, but it does what I need. 85% road, 15% hold my beverage, and it is light for a 35.
If I kick up the off-road usage, then I'll be looking at those Mickey Ts!
Been running the MT Baja Boss ATs for a couple years now on my ZR2. They are my favorite AT tires I've ever run!
I'm really impressed so far... like I said... they are kinda blowing me away...
I have a 2020 ZR2 and I'm thinking about switching to the MT Baja Boss AT from KO2s. I've had good performance with the KO2s in every category except tread wear. Please let me know if you have any experience with KO2s in comparison to the MT's.
@jaimebrown1746 For a long time, KO2s were my go-to. One of my biggest complaints with them was definitely wear. The other thing that bothered me with them was the wet roads. They seem to break free more than I tend to want unless I'm trying to break free. I did get better mpg's with them though. I live in Colorado, so one annoyance is the clay mud. It doesn't shed from the KO2s and they end up being slicks, which can be sketchy.
With the MT Baja, I'm about 45k with this set and have ~20-30% tread left. It is significantly better in wet conditions and honestly most other situations other than slightly a bit more noise, which is minimal. Only debate I have with myself is running these E rated again for the extra protection in the sidewall or going with the STD ( Standard Load) for significant weight savings. That would definitely gain me some MPGs and some acceleration. The part that worries me with that is we have a lot of sharp square edge, shaley rock.
And the MT Baja boss look so tough on our trucks lol
@jaimebrown1746 Forgot to mention, our trucks definitely kick mud and everything else out all over the sides of them. That being said, the MT Bajas don't help that a single bit lol. I'm running the Rokblokz mud flap and they help but.... still 🤷♂️. Lastly, I'm running the kibbetech ucs, which are beefy and have more material at the Knuckle. To clear that I had to run spacer to clear the extra sidewall meat on the E rated version. 1.25 borla spacer. So shit gets dirty quick 😒
@@colorado-sam7638 Thanks for the info! I live in CO too, and I'm moving from the Springs to about 8700 in elevation. I have a Bison ZR2 and it came with 33" KO2s from the previous owner. I had to do some minor trimming and it definitely slings shit everywhere: packed door handles and slung mud over the cab on a ranch up in Northern CO! I do some wheeling with a Rubicon and an FJ so I'm glad these are E rated. I share your concern on the rocks. I've been looking at KO3s, but can only get them C rated in my size. That should be plenty durable enough on our little trucks, but I'll only try them if BFG honors the milage warranty and I get them cheap. Otherwise I think I'll try the MT Baja Bosses. Thank again!
Been using General Grabber AT2s on my Subaru Forester in northern new mexico where I drive in the snow for 4 months a year. Put them on over 40k miles ago and they have at least half of the tread left. I got stuck in the snow one with generic tires and said no thank you. Got these and now its hard to break loose doing donuts in the snow =/ however, cruising up the mountain in questionable conditions is fun instead of scary. I have to try to slide (for fun) and its not easy. However, i watched this video for advice on what AT tires to get for my f250 slide in truck camper weighing 10k lbs. I need tires that WILL NOT POP cause I never want to try changing a tire alone in the forest without cell service. Any advice for a high weight capacity AT tire? I really just drive to the forest in that thing but drive on muddy, snowy, rocky, gnarly roads. Thanks.
Currently running General Grabber ATX 255/70/R18. 3000 mi on it so far. Love it. Tread still good as new. I am looking forward to playing in the snow with it.
I love those tires on snow... so good.
How did the atx do in the snow?
My Tundra is a 2wd. Did pretty well with weights on the back. Best used on packed snow. I would imagine using it with 4wd would make you into a tank.
Mickey Thompson Baja boss at. They are amazing tires, in the dry, rain, winter, mud and soft ground. Not much road noise either. They perform way better than you would think for the tread design. Personally will by them again. And highly recommend them.
Good review. Honest stuff, I've only ran the ko2 amd toyo at3. The toyo is the best I've ever ran, my 2011Ram sport 4x4 is a highway runner runner mostly because of work all over. I got 60k plus miles on my current toyos at3 and drive hard and corner hard, and have 3 winters on them, like the video. Good stuff.
Yeah the Toyo is probably perfect for how you use your truck. Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it 🙏
How are the toyos in the rain?
@milesruby3271 they work great in the rain. Seem to have great grip in all season's and conditions. Best tire I've ran. I got 70k on my first pair . A person might be able to get 75k out of them if rotated and drove easy. I drive them a bit hard , pull a boat. And are quite for what they are.
@Humborg1 thats good to hear, ive got a frontier pro4x that i need to get a new set on. Primarily road use, i live on a gravel road and will do some light off road stuff but main issues would be rain and occasional southern Ohio snow. So they seem like i cant go wrong with them. There s just so many damn options
Just bought my second pair. Got about 7k on new second set. Awesome tire. Even wear too
I am really surprised why the Nokian Outpost AT is not included in this tire test? They are really good AT tires with kevlar on all 3 sides and I'm sure they can compete with any of the tires in your tire review videos.
Nokias is famous for amazing snow tires… their AT is still very snow and wet focused… I am sure it is amazing at that… trad wise it isn’t very aggressive for off-road… so probably a killer winter ski adventure tire, great road tire, great mileage warranty… mid to low aggressive for pure off-road. My guess is it’s probably a great tire… just not for my use out in the west.
@OutdoorAuto No the Outpost AT is not a winter tire. I use them as a summer tire (3 season tire) on my overland rigged Land Cruiser. I have been driving them on absolutely all kinds of surfaces and conditions and they've been great. I love the peace of mind with the kevlar on all 3 sides. The Outpost tread pattern has the same level of aggression as the KO2s so they should perform and compete at the same level.
Actually when AT tires are sold here in Northern Scandinavian countries, they are described as "Not suitable for winter driving in Nordic countries", even those with the snowflake three peak mountain marking example the Outpost AT, KO2s and more. No AT tire can perform on winter roads as dedicated winter tires.
As winter tires I use the "Nokian Hakkapeliitta 10 SUV". Check them out....
I think the Cooper at3 is a ok for occasional of road and very good on road especially in wet and exceptionally good for towing and hauling. I think it is one of the most underrated at tires. I think they also build the Mickey Thompson tires?
Thanks for confirming my reasoning for my purchase.
MT AT boss to fit inside my chains, for plowing.
I put the 31.5" Baja Boss A/T in an SL rating on my Tacoma and could not be happier. I am mostly on-road and these tires are very impressive. They come in at 42# and unlike most SL rated tires these still have 3 ply sidewalls.
I really liked how they carried the 3 ply sidewall down to a lot of different ratings.
@OutdoorAuto does the rating matter that much? I need tires for my mail delivery rav4 but all the D rated tires are stupid high, and the last set only lasted 20k miles. Would an SL or XL last at 50% rough dirt roads?
According to the website, only LT sizes have the 3 ply sidewall
Hey guys, great channel. Recently bought new tires for my nissan armada. Tire pickings were slim, and i had to go from Salt Lake to Reno and back the following monday. Lol. Got notified Saturday morning. So i went with the Big O A/T 2. My previous firestone A/T's. Were done. I've tried to find reviews about the Big O Bigfoot AT 2's. But there's not a lot out there. I got to say the tires did great drove really nice and seems to do well in the snow and rain.. But did i make a bad choice? Thank you!!
I love the cooper AT3’s great traction over a wide range quiet on the highway. Only tire iv ever got over 30,000 miles out of my last set i got 50,000 miles and im hard on tires.
65000 miles on my AT3 4S. Lost some performance last 5000 miles although not dangerous. Ready for same set
I had the Grabber ATx on my RAM 1500. I found that they wore VERY quickly. They were OK in mud. Wet performance lacked and got a lot worse as the tires wore. They were loud. And I didn't find they soaked up the bumps, as you mentioned. *shrug* Now I am looking for a new set of tires for my new truck. I have street Dueler H/L Alenza which just look so whimpy on a truck. LOL
Currently running the Mickey Thompson A/T’s and they’re great tires. Great wet pavement traction, sand, mud, and snow. Couple things I don’t like is they’re heavy so fuel mileage and performance is down and they throw rocks otherwise I love them!
Agree with your review as I've ran them for close to a year now myself. I'll add to your review if I may that when it comes to hauling a load they have zero issues I've found so far. As far as in the mud, well they are Micky Thompson's. What does one expect but to do as they please and not need a wench or anything else to pull you out because your tire couldn't clear itself or dig hard enough. I've had a 16 foot car trailer along with my truck bed loaded down with big oak tree. We had an 8 in snow a few days prior that melted off sloppong up a real nice field of soft mud. I found myself being 16 again vs the 40 plus year old I'm suppose to be lol. Best tire I've ever owned and pretty sure they will be same tire I buy again.
Interesting about the Falken Wildpeaks. We run the A/T Trails on our Subaru Ascent. We've done numerous offroad trips (thousands of miles now?), including part of the BDR trails in Utah (through Moab as well) and Washington state. We've taken them through mud, dirt, rock, gravel, dry and wet, everything in between and they have been absolutely amazing. Performed far better than I ever expected, until..... last weekend, we took them with a group up into the fresh powder (about 18" fresh and actively snowing). A Toyota Tacoma was lead vehicle (we were first on the trail, so the Tacoma was plowing), we were 8th out of 9 vehicles and we were the only vehicle to get stuck (3 times!), had to get a pull out each time. Everyone else had zero issues. So in the snow, these were very underwhelming.
However, I am about to buy the Wildpeak AT3W within a day or two for another deeper snow run (probably closer to 2ft deep). I'm expecting a lot (of snow performance) out of the AT3W, we are also going from 245/60R18 to 265/60R18, so more sidewall and about 1" taller overall (29.6" up to 30.5"). Not huge tires by any means, but much deeper tread, slightly wider and taller. I think this will allow us to air down a bit more than usual too and also help us float on top of the snow a bit better.
We plan on continuing to put miles on our A/T Trails (spring/summer/fall) and use the AT3W for winters until the A/T Trails are used up, then just run the AT3W year-round.
Sounds like a solid plan... snows is tricky because it can present itself so many ways... I was just out in over 2 feet of snow that was pure unpackable dust... it was sub zero so nothing would stick... it was like driving in moon dust and pretty much no tire had traction... aired down to 2 PSI and just had to try to float as long as I could. We got stuck a lot...
You forgot some tire brands. The one most don't consider are the Falken Wildpeak A3TW.
Great tires.
I had a set of these and try were awesome! No matter the weather or terrain conditions, they never had any surprises. They just performed and rode really nice.
Toyo A/T 3 .vs MT Baja Boss A/T ? I have a stock F-250 supercrew currently running Toyo A/T 2, 275/65/20. 80% highway driving, 20% off-road gravel and 2 track dirt roads. Also I live in the Sierra Nevada foothills and do a fair amount of winter snow and ice driving throughout Northern Cal. In addition I have a 28’ travel trailer I tow. Thoughts and insight appreciated.
I have ran duratrac tires on my trucks since 2010 and i have never had a problem with them, i run them on half tons that don’t haul much and I also run them on my duramaxes that very often pull 10000-25000lbs and they last very well
I also run Sailun terramax AT’s and they have been amazing tire’s especially for their price point, great on ice, snow and in mud. Dry conditions I have never seen an issue with them either especially running 10ply
I have 84,000 miles on my 285/70/17 ko/2's and am ordering a new set today (5th set ive owned, and i am 100% never changing to a different tire)
The ONLY thing better than these is the original BFG all-terrain's i use to buy for my tacoma, that they no longer make!
Ive pulled bolts, nails, screws out of the tread without having to repair them, no leaks.
Ive scuffed the sidewalls on extreme trail rides and never had a gash/roll off/cut that caused concern.
I run these on 2 vehicles: 2000 jeep xj and a 2003 toyota sequoia, both are modified for off-road use.
Have had KO2, Wildpeakes, and the Grabbers. Grabbers were best for my road, snow, rain, and forest roads.
That makes sense… see I love comments like this cause you fit a tire to your actual use.
Very interesting and well done video. Have you thought about rating the tires on a 1-10 score with respect to the different categories (wet, snow, ice, mud, wear, sidewall, etc.) in any future tests? That may help your viewers decide which tire will be best for specific application. Keep up the good work!
Good idea.. it is hard because of the amount of variables… but I may try this in the future.
I've tried a handful of AT tires. Nitto Ridge Grapplers, Terra Grapplers, Cooper ATP II, Dick Cepek Trail Country EXP, and recently have General Grabber ATX.
The Coopers were my favorite AT road tire, the Dick Cepek were my favorite AT/Hybrid tire for off-road. I have just shy of 4k miles on the General Grabber ATX that I got because I moved to the PNW from CA. They may be my favorite tires, we'll see once I can start off-roading with them.
Love your reviews. Always well reasoned and informative! I am running load range E Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT's on my Tundra. I wanted solid road performance, a snowflake rating, and the ability to do the occasional Backcountry Discovery Route or similar type off highway driving. I was between the Coopers and ATx's and went with the Coopers based on my local tire prices. I am very satisfied for my use case but would consider going with a more aggressive tire if I spent more time off road or in rougher conditions than I have faced so far.
The Coopers are honestly probably next on my list to try… tires are just so expensive I can only test so many at a time.
I ran Coopers on an S-10 late 90’s early 2000’s. Excellent mileage for tires that didn’t come with a mileage warranty at the time. I now have a set of STT Pros for the winter primarily during hunting season. Decent on the road, minimal noise and only notice the lugs at low speeds. Hope to try them out in the snow this winter. On a 03 Duramax.
@@OutdoorAuto
I have a set of the Cooper Discoverer AT3 4s on my 2021 Ram. 275/55R20
I like them so far, but haven't had a chance to run them in snow yet.. (soon) Only had them for a month now, and only on dry/wet pavement so far.
Shop around on those, Most places were $260-300 per tire, but I found them for $200 on sale online, and my local tire shop price matched it with no questions.
I like the Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT on my first gen Tacoma, which are great on road with low noise, and have been awesome for me in dirt, wet, and snow. Siping is excellent. Wear is OK but I neglect them and don’t rotate as often as I should. Still got 40k out of them before two of them got worn all the way down (my truck cannot keep alignment). Haven’t tried many other AT options so curious how they stack up against the ones he’s reviewed.
@@JohnDough-d6o hey , I’m in Manitoba where it’s like -30 to -40 with 5ths of snow for months at a time and was wondering how you made out with your tires once the snow came ? I am also looking at buying these same tires.
Thanks
I run the Micky's Baja Boss 's on my F250. Love them. Quite for what it is, handles really good on the road. They shine offroad. We have to drive down gravel caliche roads which chew up regular tires but these are holding up well. I can with these tires run 60mph down them no problem. Offroad on the ranch with the cactus and the mesquite thorns, and mud, rocks, and general bad road conditions they have held up and perform well. Only negative is the weight and reduced fuel miles but its worth it.
So far my favorites have been the KO2s I’ve only had 3 sets of tires in my driving life. Getting close to having to choose a number 4.
Thank you so much for sharing all the detailed information and personal experience.
My current Rankings are:
1.KO2 (Favorite)
2. Maxis (what I have currently)
3. Cooper AT3s (Would never buy again)
I covered the K02s in the round one video... they are definitely solid tires.
Firestone XT are hands down the best Street AT tire. In mud they do amazing and one of the only tires where the tire sipes go all the way through the tread. I have had them all!!! JMO
I agree- they perform very well.
Great video as usual. The honest comparisons are really helpful. Its almost time for me to get some new tires. Ive been a KO2 fan for a couple years but it looks like there may be better options out there now for my uses.
Well don't forget... sometime this month the K03's will be out... I still need to go test those.
So far one of the best at tires test!
That general grabber was absolutely terrible in water and snow on my f150. It was near new under5k tire on the vehicle when i bought it and i was constantly finding the tire loose traction on highway with any amount of water.
The MT Baja Boss A/T has the exact same carcass and sidewall as the Baja Boss M/T. Hands down the BB A/T is the toughest all terrain out there. I have them and they are phenomenal!
I agree. I got them last summer and they are really a jack of all trades. They are better off road, as well as wet and snow than my KO2’s. The BFG’s are still better on road in dry conditions IMO. The MPG hit is noticeable due to the weight but I’m never going to get great mileage regardless so I that wasn’t a dealbreaker for me.
I did get 2 punctures despite their durability, both were huge screws/bolts that would have punctured any passenger vehicle tire and were repaired and have been fine since.
I’d say the only downside is that they are difficult to balance as I had to take them back to the tire shop a 2nd time.
That being said I can’t recommend them enough.
One other thing to note is that in the 285/70/17 size they are true 33” tires where as the KO2 and some others are 32.6” which may matter to some.
@@sevendewey yeah the screw punctures are unavoidable. They are heavy but with that it’s a trade off for durability. Mine had no issues with balancing.
Got a good chuckle when you mentioned that you have to pay attention to the inside of the tire in the new Mickey Thompsons. Unless you are removing the tire from the rim, the tire will always be on the inside, regardless of where the tire is on the vehicle. Good review my man.
Yeah I probably needed to explain that better… I switch tire and rims a lot… those have already been changed twice… testing tires is a lot of work
Super informative video mahn!!! loved it!!! Great efforts!!!
6 months in the making… hopefully it is helpful
One thing I have found is that generally aggressive tread serves me well in the winter since when I am driving through a ditch or field in the snow as soon as I spin I am in dirt or mud.
I'm really interested in the Milestar XT. But I've been growing more and more interested in the new baja boss as well. I've got some time still to decide.
I have been using the Grabber ATX as my dedicated winter tire set in the Northeast. It performs great on my 1/2 ton truck getting me to work and back during these brutal winter storms we get. 5 winters of wear on them now and they still have 87.5 percent tread left so is using only 2.5% tread life up per winter which is pretty good.
I greatly appreciate your knowledge and attention to detail when explaining the tech behind these tires. I've been building my rig for the past year now and Im getting close to being ready for new tires and thanks to your video, I believe I see a set of Mickey Thompsons in my future
If you’re watching this video wondering what tires to buy…get the Mickey thompsons. You won’t regret it. I’ve got them on my F-150 and will put them on again when this first set wears out. They’re a Great all around tire. Snow, Mud, Sand, wet roads etc. BUY the Mickey thompsons!
I didn't know a new Duratrac is coming, can't wait. The thing with the original Duratrac is that it's such an awesome tire DESPITE there being better performing tires out there. I'd like to try out a different tire next but the problem is that it's a gamble.
Duratracs are a safe bet and readily available (at least where I live). That's why I'm on my second set. I'll most likely try the new version next.
I bet you will love the new ones... the specs look solid.
I have worked in the oil patch in Alberta for 35 years, so about 60% off pavement in the summer and a lot of ice roads in the winter, and driving in deep snow. I switched from the BF s ATs to the Duratrac's about 8 years ago. I find them better in the snow and ice, they suck in the mud just like the BFs. I run E rated tires and have not had a blow out yet. They are the best all round tire I have run. It is better though to have two sets of rims and tires and run mud tires in the summer and a good winter tire for the ice roads.
@@riverratt8626 That's interesting. In my experience their weakness is slippery conditions (i.e. ice, thin slush, rain). I don't do a lot of mudding but they've been fine in the mud that I've taken them through. Most likely differences in our geography. Agree two sets of tires is always better but Duratrac is a great all-rounder.
I have had great success with the Firestone ATs on my hunting truck.
WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE TIRE... AND WHY?
Just finished up a set of Wildpeaks, running KO2’s on the wife’s rig, but had to give the Baja Boss AT’s a shot this time around. so far really impressed with road manners for how aggressive the tire is. Looking forward to see how they handle snow.
I like it...you clearly experiment with different tires.
GOODYEAR WRANGLER ULTRATERRAIN A/T
265 /70 R16 112S SL SBL
I put these on my 2000 4runner when I first got it and they do great on and offroad. Super quiet, have avoided many accidents from other stupid drivers. Grippy offroad. Would recommend.
Baja boss MT 60k miles in 2 years takes on every weather situation with confidence and no cupping or irregular wear! Will buy again and again and again.
Maxxis Razr AT811. Half the price of BFG AT and arguably better overall, low road noise, 3 peak, 60k warranty, not everyone has them.
After 4 years of the Nitto Recon Grapplers, I decided to step up to the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss cause of everything good I’ve heard about the tire. Just received them yesterday and I must say they are quite a bit taller than the ones coming off and they are the same size. I’m getting rid of the Nittos cause of the problem with them dry rotting and my truck is garage kept a lot. Known problem of Nittos. I hope I made the right choice.
Regarding the sand comment. I have a set of General Grabber ATX 265/70/17 115s on a 2009 GMC Canyon Z71 4x4. I took this set up thru some very deep, long and steep sandy areas at a desert lake in Mew Mexico. The area is notoriously known for getting peoples vehicles stuck in the sand. Tires were a little over a year old with about 15k miles on them, so fairly newish still. They did really well the entire time. While I did feel myself digging in and bogging down some on the steep uphill slopes, I never got stopped or stuck, I just kept on the gas, and it kept pulling thru. It was worth noting that the truck was in 4x4 hi, and the truck was equipped with 4.10 gearing, a g80 rear locker, and a 5.3L V8 engine with 320 ft lbs torque. Somewhat aggressive drive train for a small/midsized compact pickup. Side note that the tires overall have been great in all conditions off and on road from mud, snow, ice, rocks, wet and dry and desert sand. They have been very quiet overall as well. However, started getting noisy just this month with about 35k miles on them. I did, however, go double time on my rotation the last 10k and did experience some minor cupping. Very minimal, however, considering not rotating them. Also, since the truck has a solid rear axle, once I rotated them they immediately started to even out on the back eliminating the minor cupping. Road noise has been improving as the cupping evens out.
Sand is really tough to talk about because there are so many factors, like how course the sand is... but also Humidity and moisture content is absolutely a game changer. Down in Hurricane, Utah (Matts Off-Road Recovery area) a spot can go from easy to impossible just based on heat and humidity.
As soon as you stated that the Toyo was better in wet weather than the KO2 you lost me. My experience have been exactly opposite. And the Toyo is much, much noisier than the KO2.
100% I had a set of toyos and they where terrible in wet and litterally unusable in the snow spent 2k on em n sold em after 1 snow they where that bad. Went to the ko2s n will never go back
@@333fux8 My experience was exactly that too
255/85/17 In the Baja Boss makes them the only AT for me. Pizza cutter 34" that no one else makes. Nicely done
I really want the 255/85R17 Baja Boss for my 23 GMC Dually, buttttt, they won't fit without spacers on the rear because the sidewall lugs stick out so far that the tires will rub. At 34.5 inches tall, they would be cool!
Great video,
I'm running the toyo at3 37x12.5r18 on my 3500 at4, so far they've worked awsome. I had the bfg at ko2 on before but were toast in 10k miles. I live off a rough dirt road and constantly deal with thick mud and snow, the bfg works better in the mud but everywhere else the toyo is far better, especially when towing. Gonna put the falken on the wife's yukon next week and see how they work over the up comming winter. Used the bfgs for years but considering how fast they dissolved on my truck and almost similar on my yukon I'm finally trying new stuff and I'm liking it.
I really do like the Toyo AT3 for the heavy duty "Job site" trucks... some of the best off-road AT tires I think are so off-road focused they cant hold up on the heavy duty trucks sometimes... but that is a bit of a blind spot for me... I don't have anything bigger then a 1/2 ton.
I live in Michigan and I regularly go off road in some pretty tough mud and clay, to get back to my hunting and fishing spots in northern Michigan. I do no rock climbing and I have never driven off road in a desert. I air down from 33psi (paved roads) to 20psi for my off-road excursions in Michigan. I have noticed that airing down any lower risks getting sand in the bead from the tires rocking side to side while in rough, heavily rutted muddy/watery terrain, causing bead leaks (mostly on my heavier Chevy truck). I also travel a lot on snowy roads in the winter. I am on my 4th set of Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs (2 different 4x4s), purchasing the latest in October 2023 -- 2 sets on my old '04 Chevy Tahoe Z71 4x4 (w/ G80 rear locker), and 2 sets on my 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Diesel (w/ Offroad Adventure II II/Quadra-Drive II). Have crashed offroad, and even once broke a rear axle on the Chevy getting back to my hunting spot, but I have never had a sidewall issue with any of the Duratracs (so far), and they stay remarkably quiet until about 40,000 miles after which I notice they do get louder on dry pavement at highway speeds. I change them out by 50K or a little sooner. For my type of off road/on road travel, I have yet to find a year-around all-terrain tire that (would appear to) perform as well -- warm weather/snowy winter/muddy off-road -- as the Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs actually do for me. My local tire shop still recommends the Duratracs over the other all-terrain tires for my type of driving on the relatively "light" vehicles that I am driving -- no "super heavy-duty" pickup trucks.
Great review. Im going to be putting some 33's on my Tacoma and anything i can do to save weight is huge. The toyo open ct 3 are 54 pounds load E while the ko3's are 56 pounds load range C. That alone has me leaning to the Toyos to try to keep my mpg up as much as possible.
I liked your presentation. I watched because I am looking for a tire for my 99 wrangler. I mostly drive on the road but, in the summer I do a lot of beach driving. I bought it used with cooper discovers on it. These tires are hard and bouncy on the road and dig into the sand. Would 2 ply be better for airing down. Any suggestions? What do you think about Federal Explora line of tires.
Loved the video. Great mix of information and entertainment/production value to keep me engauged and interested the entire time. Probably one of the best tire review videos on TH-cam that didn't feel like a tire "sales" video. One part that I found very interesting was that you placed the Gen. Grabber ATX above the Wildpeak AT3W for snow performance, given how popular and widely regarded the AT3W is for its wet/snow performance, that's a pretty big achievement to be had for the Grabber ATX. I was just surprised by this, because in my opinion the General Grabbers appearance is very unasumming and I didn't expect it to have as outstanding snow performance as you state that it does in the video.
I have the BF Goodrich trail terrains and love them they are great on road off road and especially in the snow I have 50 k on mime and they still have a lot of tread on them
Would love to hear your opinion on the Nokian Outpost nAT as well as how it compares to other ATs
Nokian makes fantastic tires. I have run their snow tires on several cars in the past. The Outpost nAT looks like an aggressive all weather tire. I don't see it as a major competitor to true off-road focused tires but it is a solid tire for the occasional weekend warrior that deals with a lot of Inclement weather driving conditions... I may need to take another look at them if I could ever get solid information on their sidewalls... Nokian's website doesn't list a lot of important stats like that.
I would love to hear what you have to say about the Nitto Recon Grapplers. I have a Ram 2500 with 37s on a Carli lift and while I do love my General ATX’s currently on the truck, I’ve had a HORRIBLE experience with vibrations and balancing, I had them before the lift and 37s and had an issue with a broken belt as well. Looking for an all terrain that’s balanced for like 85% on road, 15% moderate off road and very little to no winter driving. Recon Grapplers especially grabbed my attention because the offer 37x11.5R17, no one else seems to offer an 11.5 wide at the moment.
I have Goodyear Duratracs, I have really beat those tires up, from several trails in Colorado including Black bear pass to Moab and I’ve had no complaints. My next set will probably be Wildpeaks though, I like what I’ve heard about them
My grabber ATX's have been wonderful. I have 265-70-17s (e rated) on my 4runner. I have pulled trailers, hauled my dual sport on my hitch, been up and down miles of logging roads and put 78k miles on them. Probably had another 15k on them but my shocks went out and they started cupping really bad.
I found them to be quiet and comfortable, but they are also the first AT tire I've run. I know comfort is subjective so for reference, my daily driver is a 2500HD work van on e rated tires, and my better half has a mustang with the track package. None of our vehicles are "soft" riding.
I was going to buy the Toyo at3 until I watched this video. So thanks for all the information, first of all.
Unfortunately, the at3 comes with different specifications for each size and my required size (215/75r15) doesn't have the load E rating and therefore without reinforced sides.
Can you recommend any other tire in that size apart from the overly expensive bf Goodrich t/a ko2?
Thanks in advance
Looking for the best A/T pavement princess tire for ride comfort and fuel economy, but will be fine on gravel roads rarely though.