Best Review of the Tenere 700 out there. No bullshit talk, just straight , usable infos . Thank you very much for your good work. Greetings from Germany.
Black/grey/yellow version - high fender kit - black soft bags - camping gear - black bark buster hand guards - after market exhaust - and I’m off into the sun set.
@@carlosandleon Increased wheel travel needs increased space for the wheel to move. If you're referring to the front fender, usually it's to prevent the occasional mud caked from tearing it off, or locking up the tire from moving.
@@exothermal.sprocket Yeah, i meant the front, but considering you can heighten the low fender on the tenere i think a high beak fender is not necessary on the tenere 700. Dakar bikes have also sported low fenders so beak fenders really aren't necessary at all.
@@carlosandleon Whatever it takes to keep dirt from damaging the radiator, caking up on the tire and ripping the fender off or stopping the wheel, or zinging into the air and blowing up all over the rider....
So unusual: you found some aspects of the bike that aren't perfect. The other reviewers should be embarrassed. Thanks. The detail that you went into was incredibly valuable.
So great to see a straight to the point and unbiased review! So many "reviewers" these days seem to be afraid of pointing out any compromises or anything remotely negative out of fear of not being invited to future events.
Many so called reviewers these days are just free loaders with their own agenda of self promotion in this ' look at me, look at me' generation and no real reviewing skills or ability to dissect and verbalise a bike's pros and cons. Brake magazine is the exact opposite of this, by far and away the most professional, unbiased, articulate and accurate reviews I have come across. As someone else already mentioned in the comments, you can almost feel the way the bike rides from listening to the review. Well done Brake Magazine.
I think the Yamaha team was very smart to offer the Tenere 700 in this foundational package to start with an eye towards adding S and R models in the future. As you've noted, the bike is going to appeal to a lot riders and encourage them to ride farther. And feel great about what they've accomplished - which is what it's all about!
You set the bar for detailed in depth brutally honest journalism. I will only look at buying based solely on Your evaluations ! What a great channel you have. Thank You so much.
Great to hear and see a review by someone who knows what they’re talking about, and is honest in their opinions. So practical and real. Thank you. It really did make me wonder if this would be ‘my bike’... Les
The 2020 Yamaha T700 (Tenere) is a good basic bike. *_I strongly suggest_* you avoid the temptations by the industry & dealers making their videos on the T700. Never, ever buy a brand new design i.e. 1.0. WAIT about two to three years for the: - fixes to the design bugs & issues - improvements/modernizations like on the Honda Africa Twin & now Adventure Sport version - aftermarket parts & accessories to be available - for other folks not wise enough to wait, to buy it and spend their money not yours Something to think about that I am sure the video maker agrees with.
I just sat on one....and fired it up here in Alberta. Motor so smooth compared to the KTMs. Souns just like a stock MT07. 12k Canadian Bike felt nice....looks good. If I didn't have a 1190 in garage I would have put the deposit down,for summer delivery. Sadly there was no riding involved.
Just placed my deposit (Feb. '20) and am torturing myself watching vids like this until it arrives in June. Having fun shopping for and buying accessories for it: HEED crash bars, Tusk MOLLE rackless luggage over an SW Motech tail rack, SW Motech center stand, HEED crash bars, Adventure Spec skid plate, GIVI S310 auxiliary lights, Pivot Pegs. Seems like many North American manufacturers/retailers are not building/stocking many accessories for these bikes yet. Most are European sourced. They better get with the program in the US and Canada, because Yamaha is going to sell a gazillion of these bikes here.
Great review. Loved your straight talk. No flowery language and no sugar coating. Gives a very good idea of the bike. And it seems like a terrific buy for the money and will give the far more expensive mid weights a real run. Glad to hear you can do long motorway days too as that’s a necessary evil that any adv bike needs to cater to. Top bike overall.
The story isn’t merely the price, but that mid range adventure bikes are coming into their own. The 1200 monster bikes have had their moment. Please devote some future discussion to this new market and the driving forces behind it. In many ways, you are the demographic behind its rising popularity.
Well done, very thorough and straightforward, no sugarcoating. I just got a T7 and don’t have a ton of miles on it yet, but I agree with all your input. Subscribed!
Like the review below I have watched most if not all of the Tenery reviews by journos and owners and I found yours to be very professional and extremely informative. I’m heading into the dealer to put my deposit down in the morning. Will certainly be keen to watch more of Brake Magazine reviews. Subscribed. 🙋🏼♂️👍
Excellent review! I’ve been really excited for this bike. A nice bike without all the electronic nonsense. Wish it had a lot more fuel range. Can’t wait to see them loaded with gear.
The engine was definitely destined to be in this bike. They took a super ten engine, made it a 700, tested it out in a roadster for a few years, and put it where it belongs. In an adv.
I remember dual sport/ adv use to be the cheaper intros into the motorcycle world. Now it's a title a brand. More sophisticated and technologically advanced motorcycles for the street costs thousands less... $10k+ for this "barebones" adv bike. These bike dealers are making a killing on profits these days.
My favorite type of ADV riding is long-distance trips to third world countries, and this is the bike we've been waiting for: capable, comfortable, forgiving to ride, simple and cheap! Complicated electronics are a liability in countries where you might have to truck your bike to the capital and wait three weeks for your part to be shipped in. Simple is so much better. Yamaha have shown they really understand the adventure traveler biker.
Forgot to say...great review. Very helpful, covered all the important things, and unlike most reviewers you have credibility with your opinion on offroad capability (whereas a lot of journos who review ADV bikes are, by their own admission, hopeless offroad)
Very nice and professional review.! I had a test ride of the new tenere 700 and maybe this is the best review so far for tenere 700. covered all the important things about this bike!! Well done!
Best review of the Tenere, i wish i saw that before buying one...5:54 - is spot on! It's not a adrenalin pump bike, if you after one don't fool yourself - you won't be happy with it. It's not ready to race - it's ready to plod along, and God forbid dropping it offroad - plastics are not even enduro type - they are same as on road bikes and they cracking very quickly. They are also painted (not colour molded) so they will scratch badly offroaad, and as they are matte finish you wont be able to polish out scratches :-/
I think they did the fuel cap that way as a crude means to get more fuel capacity out of the tank. A cap with a hinge sits inside the tank meaning less fuel.
I love my T7 only thing I wish it had is cruise control, mostly because I have had a bike with it and it is just amazing, but I still love the simplicity easy to do maintenance.
The husqvarna nuda has a similar fuelcap system, the key remains on the cap while you have to take it completely of. Never encountered struggle or difficulties with it...
Good review - I like that it's not all gushing. I ride a 700GS and would seriously consider switching due to the better off-road handling of the Tenere (700 struggles to be honest). That price-point too!
Looks like a good bike. What I like is that the Japanese are just plain sensible. If you want to rip at 10/10 all the time buy a KTM if you want to enjoy the ride without any major drama go Japanese....
Can't believe it's been four years since I watched this for the first time already - time flies! Also very excited for your Tuareg 660 review, saw you responded in a comment that it will air in January.
Thanks for noticing. Would need 200 pages to describe how it was being away and how much better everything is now that I'm fully analog (logging on to wifes computer to do YT stuff), but in short it's a much healthier and stress free approach. You know probably better than anyone how tough TH-cam can be on your mind with the constant thinking, planning and pondering. Can't wait for the review man, been waiting for a year!
Hehe, well, I'm kinda trying to not mix too much personal stuff with YT, I just don't think people are that interested. If you think my experiment could be somewhat helpful to you I'd love to do a Skype talk. Let me know, I'd be honored to!
That could be cool. I wouldn't under estimate making your TH-cam personal man. It's a slowish burn but I wish I'd done that more at the start. It's tricky to transition back into.
Superb review and extremely informative from someone who is properly clued up and a proper off road rider. It sounds like the perfect lightweight do everything bike and a big improvement on the 660.
Thanks for doing such a great job of communicating the character of the ride; I’ve been looking on Patreon for the Dialled-In series on the T7 but haven’t been able to find it; is it still in the works?
Thank you for this review, best review of the Tenere ti date, totally honest with pros and cons. When you say it was good at highway speeds, what rpms are we talking about at 100-120km/h? Nobody seems to be able to answer that question.
Sounds like it needs hill topping .Nice review guys it looks like Yamaha, KTM et all are all going down the road of stripping a bike back to basics making the rider the ultimate controller.
@mld sorry mate, I believe i missunderstood your first comment. I thought you were saying KTM is going down the "simplicity" path! Same as Yamaha! It seems we both agree that KTM is looking more like an spaceship and that Yamaha is looking cool and simple (and cheap, and reliable). Ride safe!!
Good review, cheers. In my view we are getting carried away by fancy electronics a bit too much, going back to basic motorcycles improves skills and fun to ride as opposed to playing with electronics.
another big difference between the t7 and ktm 790 is for us that are not big gear heads. ktm requires a very particular oil, frequent valve checks etc... The t7 uses whatever oil you want to give it, 25k mile valve checks and generally doesnt need much pampering to run well and maintain a warranty
Well done review Thank You i think most modern bikes with foul injection suffers from jerky throttle when you start do to the lean mixture mapping of the engine it is extreme on big singles like the Yamaha XT 660ZA Ténéré but it can be helped a lot by simply mounting a booster plug in series with the intake temp censor.
They were problematic but slowly people are figuring it out. For a lot of more recent bikes, electronic throttles have helped. The biggest problem is the emissions.
A 600cc (sub 1000cc) class bike with a low(er) weight and a bias towards off road/ adventure riding and cheaper than all other bikes in the class, but not unique now that the AJP PR7 is available for the same price with a substantially lower weight by about 30kg(?), more fuel, lower CofG (Under seat tank) and branded suspension that should be better. It would be great to see a comparison, especially a Brake magazine comparison, with real world ’how it works’ comparisons from someone that knows how to ride these sort of bikes rather than just a comparison of the numbers as is often the case in other reviews. Anyone can do a brochure numbers comparison review but Brake magazine say what it’s really like to ride and that makes a refreshing change, 👍 one thing missing from this review is how well it crashes. The old Tenere 600 was renowned to be resilient to the occasional unintended dismount and iirc even had replaceable sliders. No sign of them here. Considering the launch was in Spain there are loads of more challenging off road routes than the gravel roads shown in the release videos. I’m guessing Yamaha set. The routes. It would be great to see how it rides these as that’s where the real benefit of lighter weight will be felt.
@mld category usually covers intended use not technical specification. By your measure the tenere 660 and tenere 700 are different categories and Duke 690 and Duke 790 are different categories which they clearly are not. PR7 is marketed 'for whichever path you choose', tenere 700 is marketed as 'go anywhere' so in marketing terms they are looking to fulfill a similar need. Counting cylinders is just judging a bike by the numbers on the spec sheet which is pointless.
We'd like to compare the T7 and PR7. It's be interesting. I think the biggest issue with the comparison is the historical reputation AJP have. Having a decent set of components doesn't help if the bike doesn't have the quality control. That's tough for us to test because only miles show it, but AJP's reputation isn't great. In terms of crashability, one bike went down in out group twice at slow speed. Amit suffered some scratches and nothing else. It's tough to know because it quite naked, but other than the gear linkage things seem well tucked away. Yamaha did set the routes and they have to cater to a broad spectrum of abilities, not just experienced off road people. From the little playing about I did, I think the Yamaha would be pretty good in more technical going.
@mld Reading a spec sheet really doesn't let you know about what a bike is like to ride. The only way you will know if it's comfy for your body shape, if it's well balanced, top heavy or low cofg, if the wind directed from the screen hits you straight in the head and if you can confidently get your feet down is to ride the bike. Although most will say that power, gadgets and specs are the reasons they choose a bike the above reasons are why people CHANGE their bikes so should arguably be the reasons you choose a bike in the first place. None of these are things you'll find on a spec sheet.
You mentioned that the Yamaha is simple and gentle. But it isn't intense. Most aggressive bikes are gentle when you ride them gently, especially with today's electronics.
Larger LED projectors, should do well. My MT-09 has 4 LED projectors, but the lens diameters are smaller. I bet this T7 lights up the night pretty good.
It sounds like it’s performance is in line with its pricing...middle of the road. There should be a good market for this at the price, and a lack of electronics makes it more repairable on the road. I like the price, but I’d be bored with this after my KTM.
Thank you for a very helpful review. One comment is that another reviewer pointed out that their (a couple with 2 T7s) bikes leaked fuel from that ugly cap when tipped over. And one question about the ABS: you commented that the ABS was not as functional off-road under some circumstances. But I understand that the system is switchable (at least the rear??). So how does your observation align itself with the ability to turn off the ABS? Thanks again. This was a truly in-depth and practical review.
Hi Llel, really helpful channel thanks for doing all these great riding tips & really thorough reviews. Would be a great addition to the reviews if you could add some video with the sound of the engine in different circumstances, including tick over & what it sounds like in real time when it rides by the camera & perhaps at slower speeds on off road trails? Remember, life's better when you're hearing! ;) Cheers mate :)
So, we had to wait decades to have a dual-sport from the 80s finally back! We need more bike like this, IMO ( I like the Guzzi V85TT also). No more crossover pleaseeee!
A very well edited, thoughtful and considered review, well done. It will be interesting to see how it compares to the KTM 790 R. The Yamaha certainly beats it on price :)
Some Tenere 700 riders and owners report that there is a jerkiness when opening the throttle from totally closed position. Have you experienced the same? Thank you for your unbiased reviews.
@@BrakeMagazine Is it an issue riding at slow speeds fethering the clutch if you start from closed throttle? The tip is not to close the throttle while riding at slow speeds? Never owned a Yamaha, only BMWs and Ducatis...No Tenere 700 in the horizon for test ride here. Thank you.
Excellent review with a lot of details and - remarkably - lack of overwhelming excitement about the event in Tortosa which probably leads to extremely biased reviews because of its awesomeness in itself. The people there felt again what and how great riding a motorbike actually is. It might not have taken a Tenere700 to feel that. ;)
Precociously. It's important to keep that in check, because it was exactly that. A super fun place, with great riding and great people. In isolation, I think it's still a great bike.
14:37 its funny because im only at my 2nd bike , both of em were yamahas , and they both have that, so does my friends yamaha atv , now that you've said it i can notice the other few bikes i've tried didnt had that , glad to see my next bike will still have it , i got so used to it i kinda like it to be honest.
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Best Review of the Tenere 700 out there. No bullshit talk, just straight , usable infos . Thank you very much for your good work. Greetings from Germany.
Thanks for the positive review!
Came here to say the same thing
Exactly! No fluff, just straight talk!
+1
+1
I love it simplicity is the way to go
No good breaking a tiny little sensor and being 2,000 kms away from a work shop
Black/grey/yellow version - high fender kit - black soft bags - camping gear - black bark buster hand guards - after market exhaust - and I’m off into the sun set.
Giant Loop bag should cover it.
what's the point of a high fender other than aesthetics?
@@carlosandleon Increased wheel travel needs increased space for the wheel to move. If you're referring to the front fender, usually it's to prevent the occasional mud caked from tearing it off, or locking up the tire from moving.
@@exothermal.sprocket Yeah, i meant the front, but considering you can heighten the low fender on the tenere i think a high beak fender is not necessary on the tenere 700.
Dakar bikes have also sported low fenders so beak fenders really aren't necessary at all.
@@carlosandleon Whatever it takes to keep dirt from damaging the radiator, caking up on the tire and ripping the fender off or stopping the wheel, or zinging into the air and blowing up all over the rider....
The most thoughtful, interesting Tenere 700 review I've seen and I think I've seen them all. Subscribed!
Thanks George! A much appreciated comment.
@@BrakeMagazine Agree with George. Seemed like a good, honest review. Also subscribed.
Yes, Brake Magazine does the best bike reviews in the internet.
Ditto
So unusual: you found some aspects of the bike that aren't perfect. The other reviewers should be embarrassed. Thanks. The detail that you went into was incredibly valuable.
So great to see a straight to the point and unbiased review! So many "reviewers" these days seem to be afraid of pointing out any compromises or anything remotely negative out of fear of not being invited to future events.
Many so called reviewers these days are just free loaders with their own agenda of self promotion in this ' look at me, look at me' generation and no real reviewing skills or ability to dissect and verbalise a bike's pros and cons.
Brake magazine is the exact opposite of this, by far and away the most professional, unbiased, articulate and accurate reviews I have come across.
As someone else already mentioned in the comments, you can almost feel the way the bike rides from listening to the review.
Well done Brake Magazine.
I think the Yamaha team was very smart to offer the Tenere 700 in this foundational package to start with an eye towards adding S and R models in the future. As you've noted, the bike is going to appeal to a lot riders and encourage them to ride farther. And feel great about what they've accomplished - which is what it's all about!
You set the bar for detailed in depth brutally honest journalism. I will only look at buying based solely on
Your evaluations ! What a great channel you have. Thank
You so much.
Thanks Dave. High praise!
No crazy looking beak. Symmetrical front end. Overall a handsome bike. Well done Yamaha.
I live vicariously thru TH-cam vids. Had to sell my bike a couple years ago ( hard times) this bike looks perfect for me.
i'm too young to own a motorcycle still so I have to live vicariously through youtube videos as well :(
Brilliant in depth technical review, the best done by anyone on this long awaited bike so far. Congratulations.
Thank you very much for the kind words!
Great to hear and see a review by someone who knows what they’re talking about, and is honest in their opinions. So practical and real. Thank you. It really did make me wonder if this would be ‘my bike’... Les
I don't think you'll be upset with your purchase if you did buy one. It's great value.
14:00 Turn the ABS off in Off Road terrain, then it theys on display Off Road Mode.
The 2020 Yamaha T700 (Tenere) is a good basic bike. *_I strongly suggest_* you avoid the temptations by the industry &
dealers making their videos on the T700. Never, ever buy a brand new design i.e. 1.0. WAIT about two to three years for the:
- fixes to the design bugs & issues
- improvements/modernizations like on the Honda Africa Twin & now Adventure Sport version
- aftermarket parts & accessories to be available
- for other folks not wise enough to wait, to buy it and spend their money not yours
Something to think about that I am sure the video maker agrees with.
I have watched dozens of supposed T7 reviews, but this is easily and by far the best. Thank you Lel
Your reviews are most unbiased and informative of all available. Thank you
I'm glad you like them!
Yamaha, bring this bike to Canada! Love how simple it is. Should come in at a very good price.
I started looking at videos of it wondering how much it will sell for in canada
@@spforsupergringo1980 www.yamaha-motor.ca/products/details-build-price.php?model=5374&group=MC&catId=94
I just sat on one....and fired it up here in Alberta.
Motor so smooth compared to the KTMs.
Souns just like a stock MT07.
12k Canadian
Bike felt nice....looks good.
If I didn't have a 1190 in garage I would have put the deposit down,for summer delivery.
Sadly there was no riding involved.
Best review I have seen on any bike.No BS,tell it as it is.Very good on the details.
Thanks you!
“Almost Japanese...” I wonder how they pulled that off?
All ribbing aside, great thoughts on the T-7.
Haha I thought that but it’s designed in Italy and made in France so I’ll cut him some slack.
Just placed my deposit (Feb. '20) and am torturing myself watching vids like this until it arrives in June. Having fun shopping for and buying accessories for it: HEED crash bars, Tusk MOLLE rackless luggage over an SW Motech tail rack, SW Motech center stand, HEED crash bars, Adventure Spec skid plate, GIVI S310 auxiliary lights, Pivot Pegs. Seems like many North American manufacturers/retailers are not building/stocking many accessories for these bikes yet. Most are European sourced. They better get with the program in the US and Canada, because Yamaha is going to sell a gazillion of these bikes here.
Just watched it again. Now in Nov. First watched it in June. Subscribed.
Great review. Loved your straight talk. No flowery language and no sugar coating. Gives a very good idea of the bike. And it seems like a terrific buy for the money and will give the far more expensive mid weights a real run. Glad to hear you can do long motorway days too as that’s a necessary evil that any adv bike needs to cater to. Top bike overall.
The story isn’t merely the price, but that mid range adventure bikes are coming into their own. The 1200 monster bikes have had their moment. Please devote some future discussion to this new market and the driving forces behind it. In many ways, you are the demographic behind its rising popularity.
I've seen many reviews with the same background, but this is the best one worded for sure
Thanks!
Great review.
Most journo’s seem to read of the specsheets nowadays.
This is the best review of the 700 to date me thinks😄👍🏻
Watch the 44t review
Thanks!
Well of course that's good, I'm in it 😏😏
Brake Magazine
I knew that😉
That was the best review until yours was uploaded.
Well done, very thorough and straightforward, no sugarcoating. I just got a T7 and don’t have a ton of miles on it yet, but I agree with all your input. Subscribed!
I just got one too... we're filming an awesome project on it 😍
Most honest and straightforward review of this bike! Thank you!
You're welcome.
Yes, best Tenere review out there. Gonna have to wait for mine here in the US! Monday mini tips again, please.
Soon! Thanks for watching.
Like the review below I have watched most if not all of the Tenery reviews by journos and owners and I found yours to be very professional and extremely informative. I’m heading into the dealer to put my deposit down in the morning. Will certainly be keen to watch more of Brake Magazine reviews. Subscribed. 🙋🏼♂️👍
Thanks John hugely appreciated.
Bring this to the states, I will love you long time Yamaha
😂😂
That was Vietnam, not Japan.
Excellent review! I’ve been really excited for this bike. A nice bike without all the electronic nonsense. Wish it had a lot more fuel range. Can’t wait to see them loaded with gear.
Definitely eyeing this to replace my Klr in a few years. Tired of waiting for kawi to make a versys 650 powered klr revamp.
Get this. You won't regret it.
The engine was definitely destined to be in this bike. They took a super ten engine, made it a 700, tested it out in a roadster for a few years, and put it where it belongs. In an adv.
I remember dual sport/ adv use to be the cheaper intros into the motorcycle world. Now it's a title a brand. More sophisticated and technologically advanced motorcycles for the street costs thousands less... $10k+ for this "barebones" adv bike. These bike dealers are making a killing on profits these days.
They really aren't. They've actually never had it tougher.
Top review, picking mine up in 2 weeks can't wait.
We are in USA- no delivery timeline! Where are you?
Picking mine up tomorrow
My favorite type of ADV riding is long-distance trips to third world countries, and this is the bike we've been waiting for: capable, comfortable, forgiving to ride, simple and cheap! Complicated electronics are a liability in countries where you might have to truck your bike to the capital and wait three weeks for your part to be shipped in. Simple is so much better. Yamaha have shown they really understand the adventure traveler biker.
It rides like that 😊
Forgot to say...great review. Very helpful, covered all the important things, and unlike most reviewers you have credibility with your opinion on offroad capability (whereas a lot of journos who review ADV bikes are, by their own admission, hopeless offroad)
best video l've seen so far. love how detailed you explain the riding experience! great job!!
Very good review! Thanks. A few days I exchanged my old tenere 660 for the T7 ... my tears dried up quickly ... great pleasure!
Very nice and professional review.! I had a test ride of the new tenere 700 and maybe this is the best review so far for tenere 700. covered all the important things about this bike!! Well done!
Thanks!
top review, thank you. i like how you are going from point to point and explain everything. thumbs up from Germany!
Thanks for the nice comment!
What a fabulously thorough, objective review. Bravo boys.
Thank you!
Best review of the Tenere, i wish i saw that before buying one...5:54 - is spot on! It's not a adrenalin pump bike, if you after one don't fool yourself - you won't be happy with it. It's not ready to race - it's ready to plod along, and God forbid dropping it offroad - plastics are not even enduro type - they are same as on road bikes and they cracking very quickly. They are also painted (not colour molded) so they will scratch badly offroaad, and as they are matte finish you wont be able to polish out scratches :-/
Yes! Been waiting for this! Liked your cameo on 44Teeth also
Thanks Mathew! Those guys are awesome 😂
I think they did the fuel cap that way as a crude means to get more fuel capacity out of the tank. A cap with a hinge sits inside the tank meaning less fuel.
I think you're probably correct.
great review! definitely a honest review of a bike. This guy is my new favorite . Gives great advice for new adventure riders like me.
Much appreciated!
What an awesome job Yamaha did on this bike! Nice review too!
First I've heard of this channel. This review was well done. Subbed
Thanks!
AMAZING review!!, Well done, the best I've seen so far about this bike. Would love to see 1 with luggage when possible!! Keep it up!!
It's a very rare thing nowadays for a big manufacture to release a bad bike. There all getting so good.
Mostly. There a few average ones in the mix.
I love my T7 only thing I wish it had is cruise control, mostly because I have had a bike with it and it is just amazing, but I still love the simplicity easy to do maintenance.
The husqvarna nuda has a similar fuelcap system, the key remains on the cap while you have to take it completely of. Never encountered struggle or difficulties with it...
Until the fuel cap breaks off. It's rare, but I've seen it happen.
In Canada a past year but new Vstrom 650 was 4,600 pounds. That is aggressive pricing. Like the 700 though.
Very good description of the bike........... great job . Waiting for a tiger XCa 800 Review !!!!!!!
Good review - I like that it's not all gushing. I ride a 700GS and would seriously consider switching due to the better off-road handling of the Tenere (700 struggles to be honest). That price-point too!
I think this is probably a better all roind bike that the 700. The weight difference would be nice too.
@@BrakeMagazine Front suspension on the 700 is terrible off-road - I mean, nasty - biggest complaint I have about the bike.
Looks like a good bike. What I like is that the Japanese are just plain sensible. If you want to rip at 10/10 all the time buy a KTM if you want to enjoy the ride without any major drama go Japanese....
😂😂 Seems pretty accurate!
Except the bit when he said that the Japanese don't do anything weird...
The peeps who can go 10/10 on a 475 pound bike represent about 5% of the overall market. The Tenere is the bike for the rest of us;)
@@johnswanson6994 And the rest of us to ride well, ride far, and have a great time doing it.
@Grenherb Fuel range is the only wrinkle.
Best review on this bike I've seen yet!
Solid honest review, I enjoyed it, thanks 👍🏼
Thanks for watching!
Can't believe it's been four years since I watched this for the first time already - time flies!
Also very excited for your Tuareg 660 review, saw you responded in a comment that it will air in January.
Welcome back to TH-cam btw man! How was the time without social media?
Yes, coming soon for sure. Scheduled for the end of Jan.
Thanks for noticing. Would need 200 pages to describe how it was being away and how much better everything is now that I'm fully analog (logging on to wifes computer to do YT stuff), but in short it's a much healthier and stress free approach. You know probably better than anyone how tough TH-cam can be on your mind with the constant thinking, planning and pondering.
Can't wait for the review man, been waiting for a year!
I’d love to hear more about it man. You should make a video about it! I’d love to know how you make videos, YT and so one now.
Hehe, well, I'm kinda trying to not mix too much personal stuff with YT, I just don't think people are that interested.
If you think my experiment could be somewhat helpful to you I'd love to do a Skype talk. Let me know, I'd be honored to!
That could be cool. I wouldn't under estimate making your TH-cam personal man. It's a slowish burn but I wish I'd done that more at the start. It's tricky to transition back into.
Superb review and extremely informative from someone who is properly clued up and a proper off road rider. It sounds like the perfect lightweight do everything bike and a big improvement on the 660.
Thanks for the positive feedback. It's definitely a big improvement. 😊
Brake Magazine thanks for a great review. You got my subscription and I’ll be taking one for a test ride very soon!
Sounds like Suzuki needs to bring out the Big DR to compete in the market now.
As long as it doesn't look like a DR big! 😂
Brake Magazine whaaaat!? The DR Big is pure sex
I was about to sell my tiger 800 for an africa twin but now I will wait and get this baby!
I agree, and I am pro honda.
You can basicly feel the bike just from this review. Reference! I subscribe
Thanks!
Surely this is a job well done, you want info just watch brake magazine,
Appreciate the matter-of-fact review of this lovely Best-Value ADV ride - Really does seem like a worthy addition to my ADV harem! Nice jacket BTW!
It would be. And thanks! I like it too!
You guys should definitely have more subs. Good review, no sunshine out the arse but positive on the good points
Great vid! It's been awesome watching the production quality of your vids get better and better. Can't wait to see the next one!
Thanks Harrison!
Thanks for doing such a great job of communicating the character of the ride;
I’ve been looking on Patreon for the Dialled-In series on the T7 but haven’t been able to find it; is it still in the works?
good review, intelligently delivered, stands out from most with good useful/truthful/relevant detail....
Awesome review! Best i seen so far on this bike.
Thanks!
OMG..the channel is really advancing..thank you for this honest awesome review..dumn so good..👍💥💫👀✌🌐✋🙏you nail it man..
The best review I ever watched on youtube. Well done😎. But for price tag here in Indonesia this bike is very Expensive close to $20.000
Thank you for this review, best review of the Tenere ti date, totally honest with pros and cons. When you say it was good at highway speeds, what rpms are we talking about at 100-120km/h? Nobody seems to be able to answer that question.
Good question. I tried it at everything from 100 to 180. It seemed really comfortable at 130km/h cruising. No vibration, not reving hard.
Brake Magazine whats the topspeed of this Beautiful bike on the road?
Sounds like it needs hill topping .Nice review guys it looks like Yamaha, KTM et all are all going down the road of stripping a bike back to basics making the rider the ultimate controller.
Ktm stripping bike to basics? 790?
@mld sorry mate, I believe i missunderstood your first comment. I thought you were saying KTM is going down the "simplicity" path! Same as Yamaha! It seems we both agree that KTM is looking more like an spaceship and that Yamaha is looking cool and simple (and cheap, and reliable). Ride safe!!
Good review, cheers. In my view we are getting carried away by fancy electronics a bit too much, going back to basic motorcycles improves skills and fun to ride as opposed to playing with electronics.
another big difference between the t7 and ktm 790 is for us that are not big gear heads. ktm requires a very particular oil, frequent valve checks etc... The t7 uses whatever oil you want to give it, 25k mile valve checks and generally doesnt need much pampering to run well and maintain a warranty
Interesting!
Well done review Thank You i think most modern bikes with foul injection suffers from jerky throttle when you start do to the lean mixture mapping of the engine
it is extreme on big singles like the Yamaha XT 660ZA Ténéré but it can be helped a lot by simply mounting a booster plug in series with the intake temp censor.
They were problematic but slowly people are figuring it out. For a lot of more recent bikes, electronic throttles have helped.
The biggest problem is the emissions.
Sounds like you were subtly calling it kind of a boring bike. Like, everything is 'nice' , but nothing (aside from price) is particularly exceptional.
Great review. My only question... an I fit a high front mudguard?!!
A 600cc (sub 1000cc) class bike with a low(er) weight and a bias towards off road/ adventure riding and cheaper than all other bikes in the class, but not unique now that the AJP PR7 is available for the same price with a substantially lower weight by about 30kg(?), more fuel, lower CofG (Under seat tank) and branded suspension that should be better. It would be great to see a comparison, especially a Brake magazine comparison, with real world ’how it works’ comparisons from someone that knows how to ride these sort of bikes rather than just a comparison of the numbers as is often the case in other reviews. Anyone can do a brochure numbers comparison review but Brake magazine say what it’s really like to ride and that makes a refreshing change, 👍 one thing missing from this review is how well it crashes. The old Tenere 600 was renowned to be resilient to the occasional unintended dismount and iirc even had replaceable sliders. No sign of them here. Considering the launch was in Spain there are loads of more challenging off road routes than the gravel roads shown in the release videos. I’m guessing Yamaha set. The routes. It would be great to see how it rides these as that’s where the real benefit of lighter weight will be felt.
@mld category usually covers intended use not technical specification. By your measure the tenere 660 and tenere 700 are different categories and Duke 690 and Duke 790 are different categories which they clearly are not. PR7 is marketed 'for whichever path you choose', tenere 700 is marketed as 'go anywhere' so in marketing terms they are looking to fulfill a similar need. Counting cylinders is just judging a bike by the numbers on the spec sheet which is pointless.
We'd like to compare the T7 and PR7. It's be interesting. I think the biggest issue with the comparison is the historical reputation AJP have.
Having a decent set of components doesn't help if the bike doesn't have the quality control. That's tough for us to test because only miles show it, but AJP's reputation isn't great.
In terms of crashability, one bike went down in out group twice at slow speed. Amit suffered some scratches and nothing else. It's tough to know because it quite naked, but other than the gear linkage things seem well tucked away.
Yamaha did set the routes and they have to cater to a broad spectrum of abilities, not just experienced off road people. From the little playing about I did, I think the Yamaha would be pretty good in more technical going.
@mld Reading a spec sheet really doesn't let you know about what a bike is like to ride. The only way you will know if it's comfy for your body shape, if it's well balanced, top heavy or low cofg, if the wind directed from the screen hits you straight in the head and if you can confidently get your feet down is to ride the bike. Although most will say that power, gadgets and specs are the reasons they choose a bike the above reasons are why people CHANGE their bikes so should arguably be the reasons you choose a bike in the first place. None of these are things you'll find on a spec sheet.
Very nice job!! T7 seems a target to go to... For sure!
You mentioned that the Yamaha is simple and gentle. But it isn't intense. Most aggressive bikes are gentle when you ride them gently, especially with today's electronics.
You’re good at this.
Thanks Alex!
Excellent review, did you talk about the headlamp's performance?
No, We didn't get to ride at night. It does seem very bright however.
Larger LED projectors, should do well. My MT-09 has 4 LED projectors, but the lens diameters are smaller. I bet this T7 lights up the night pretty good.
It sounds like it’s performance is in line with its pricing...middle of the road.
There should be a good market for this at the price, and a lack of electronics makes it more repairable on the road. I like the price, but I’d be bored with this after my KTM.
Thank you for a very helpful review.
One comment is that another reviewer pointed out that their (a couple with 2 T7s) bikes leaked fuel from that ugly cap when tipped over.
And one question about the ABS: you commented that the ABS was not as functional off-road under some circumstances. But I understand that the system is switchable (at least the rear??). So how does your observation align itself with the ability to turn off the ABS?
Thanks again. This was a truly in-depth and practical review.
Our comment was that the ABS isn't great off-road. If you turn it off the brakes are fine.
I didn't crash one to test the fuel cap sorry.
Awesome review 👌🏼 really nice job ! Might even rethink my AT purchase now...
Thank you!
Another brilliant test, thanks Llew, and well ridden . What tyres you got there?.
Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR. A gem on the road and dry dirt. Not the best on wet dirt.
Hi Llel, really helpful channel thanks for doing all these great riding tips & really thorough reviews.
Would be a great addition to the reviews if you could add some video with the sound of the engine in different circumstances, including tick over & what it sounds like in real time when it rides by the camera & perhaps at slower speeds on off road trails?
Remember, life's better when you're hearing! ;)
Cheers mate :)
So, we had to wait decades to have a dual-sport from the 80s finally back!
We need more bike like this, IMO ( I like the Guzzi V85TT also). No more crossover pleaseeee!
I was thinking about the V85TT was well. Different focus than the 700, but great to see lighter and more approachable options.
Shame it looks like Noddy' s Car...
A very well edited, thoughtful and considered review, well done. It will be interesting to see how it compares to the KTM 790 R. The Yamaha certainly beats it on price :)
Thank you. Our 790 R review is next 😏
I like that the bike is simple. I want to ride a motorcycles. Not a space ship.
Some Tenere 700 riders and owners report that there is a jerkiness when opening the throttle from totally closed position. Have you experienced the same? Thank you for your unbiased reviews.
Yes. Initial opening is abrupt. Every Yamaha has this.
@@BrakeMagazine Is it an issue riding at slow speeds fethering the clutch if you start from closed throttle? The tip is not to close the throttle while riding at slow speeds? Never owned a Yamaha, only BMWs and Ducatis...No Tenere 700 in the horizon for test ride here. Thank you.
very good review mate.if i buy a new bike in the future,this will be the one.i need 5000 euros more.right now i have to stay with the xt600.
Please make Monday tips videos again
Okay!
Excellent review with a lot of details and - remarkably - lack of overwhelming excitement about the event in Tortosa which probably leads to extremely biased reviews because of its awesomeness in itself. The people there felt again what and how great riding a motorbike actually is. It might not have taken a Tenere700 to feel that. ;)
Precociously. It's important to keep that in check, because it was exactly that. A super fun place, with great riding and great people.
In isolation, I think it's still a great bike.
usual quality spot on for a short review ta
Thanks!
Great review. It is time for Honda to bring back their famous Transalp to compete with this awesome machine. Interesting times ahead for sure.
Or make the AT better...
Informative, entertaining, comprehensive, and informative again; what else can you ask for…? ¡Gracias amigo!
14:37 its funny because im only at my 2nd bike , both of em were yamahas , and they both have that, so does my friends yamaha atv , now that you've said it i can notice the other few bikes i've tried didnt had that , glad to see my next bike will still have it , i got so used to it i kinda like it to be honest.
THIS WAS A FANTANSTIC REVIEW! THANK YOU!
Thank you!