This "podcast" type idea you are doing is super. I think many will relate to your experiences and journeys in reenactment. Gefeliciteerd to Tom, by the way! I'm ever-evolving and learning - as one should in this hobby. I got into it similarly to Tom in that I did amateur archaeology as a kid on our property in NY. I am of Dutch descent (we are still here!) and gravitated to the hobby in that way. Anyway, cheers to you both. I enjoy your channel and the passion and knowledge you share!
Oh lads, I'm still in contact with one of the Jamestown fellows, since they were partially encamped with us. Spoke quite a lot with them. Excellent folks, for sure!
Good video lads. I hope more is to come. I remember the bekkesnijden video. I am curious to know if you have come across any detailed techniques, especially with the use of the offhand that either held a cap or a coat to parry the opponents cuts, or if you plan on making any videos that may demonstrate your thoughts on how it may have been done? If I recall from Blanes' book he does not get very specific concerning the techniques, I suppose it was not written down. I also recall he mentioned that the Dutch during that time also used small one-handed clubs. Are you aware of any sources for how those were used? Thanks. Keep up the good work.
Since this episode has beem recived realy positive we are going to make a second. As far i know there are no specific sources describing techniques. Tom and i have tried it using fencing masks and training knives. The book does remain a bit vague but there are hints given that sometimes contradict eatch other. An yes there also seems to have been a tradition of stickfighting mainly in the east of the Netherlands that later evolved into a folk dance.
But i suspect that for sticks the techniques would not differ mutch from dussack. But thats speculative There is proof for dussack sport fencing in the lowcountries
@@AllemansendRe-enactment Thanks for the info. Do you know specifically which dances they are. I would be curious to see if there are any videos of these dances. You mentioned that stickfighting was done mainly in the east, is that in any specific location(s) or was it pretty widespread? Thanks for the help.
@@AllemansendRe-enactment Thanks for the recommendation. I will look online for some techniques. If I am not mistaken this channel has some videos as well that I will need to revisit. I recall from the series you did on weapons of the 80 years war you mentioned that hangers were a commonly used weapon. I have an interest in hangers as they were also used in the American Revolution and the wars that preceded it. I am from the USA, but my mother was Dutch so I am interested in the history of both nations. Would the dussack be a good approach to learning the hanger, or were there specific systems to that weapon? Thanks again for the help and keep up the good work.
There are a few videos of different types of "stokkendans" Blanes also talks about this in his boos Stavasr - knife fighting in the Netherlands- the forbidden art of bekkensnijden. I think it was Twenten and Drenten. Using knives or sharpend coins seemed to have been more popular in holland and brabant. There are depictions in the rijksmuseum that depict men fighting with short stocks with a hat in the other hand.
Leuk om te kijken/luisteren. Lekkere behind the scenes zin en onzin. Ik hoop over 3 jaar ergens mee te kunnen doen in Grol 😅
This was a lot fun to watch. More please. 🧡
This "podcast" type idea you are doing is super. I think many will relate to your experiences and journeys in reenactment. Gefeliciteerd to Tom, by the way! I'm ever-evolving and learning - as one should in this hobby. I got into it similarly to Tom in that I did amateur archaeology as a kid on our property in NY. I am of Dutch descent (we are still here!) and gravitated to the hobby in that way. Anyway, cheers to you both. I enjoy your channel and the passion and knowledge you share!
Oh lads, I'm still in contact with one of the Jamestown fellows, since they were partially encamped with us. Spoke quite a lot with them. Excellent folks, for sure!
Love the video, guys! Yo kept chasing us out of the trenches on Saturday and Sunday! :)
Im trying to convince tom that if he wants to fight more at Groll he should let his block join the Spanish side.
I'm glad to see you doing this. I've reenacted for 53 years, and it still amazes me what reenactors come up with.
We want more! ❤
Good video lads. I hope more is to come. I remember the bekkesnijden video. I am curious to know if you have come across any detailed techniques, especially with the use of the offhand that either held a cap or a coat to parry the opponents cuts, or if you plan on making any videos that may demonstrate your thoughts on how it may have been done? If I recall from Blanes' book he does not get very specific concerning the techniques, I suppose it was not written down. I also recall he mentioned that the Dutch during that time also used small one-handed clubs. Are you aware of any sources for how those were used? Thanks. Keep up the good work.
Since this episode has beem recived realy positive we are going to make a second.
As far i know there are no specific sources describing techniques.
Tom and i have tried it using fencing masks and training knives.
The book does remain a bit vague but there are hints given that sometimes contradict eatch other.
An yes there also seems to have been a tradition of stickfighting mainly in the east of the Netherlands that later evolved into a folk dance.
But i suspect that for sticks the techniques would not differ mutch from dussack.
But thats speculative
There is proof for dussack sport fencing in the lowcountries
@@AllemansendRe-enactment Thanks for the info. Do you know specifically which dances they are. I would be curious to see if there are any videos of these dances. You mentioned that stickfighting was done mainly in the east, is that in any specific location(s) or was it pretty widespread? Thanks for the help.
@@AllemansendRe-enactment Thanks for the recommendation. I will look online for some techniques. If I am not mistaken this channel has some videos as well that I will need to revisit. I recall from the series you did on weapons of the 80 years war you mentioned that hangers were a commonly used weapon. I have an interest in hangers as they were also used in the American Revolution and the wars that preceded it. I am from the USA, but my mother was Dutch so I am interested in the history of both nations. Would the dussack be a good approach to learning the hanger, or were there specific systems to that weapon? Thanks again for the help and keep up the good work.
There are a few videos of different types of "stokkendans"
Blanes also talks about this in his boos Stavasr - knife fighting in the Netherlands- the forbidden art of bekkensnijden.
I think it was Twenten and Drenten.
Using knives or sharpend coins seemed to have been more popular in holland and brabant.
There are depictions in the rijksmuseum that depict men fighting with short stocks with a hat in the other hand.
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