(OUTDATED) Hell Let Loose Guide: How to Play Spotter Right
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ธ.ค. 2022
- The recon class is a very underrated class and in some cases it's a very underplayed class. Everyone wants to be the sniper but not as many people want to be the more important spotter class. The spotter is an officer that can report to command and has the ability to go behind enemy lines and do a lot to hurt the other team's war effort. A good spotter can make or break games. And this is what this guide is for. How to play spotter right.
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-1/25/23 edit: Holy crap, 10K views, thank you guys it’s appreciated!
Here’s a link to the updated guide, not a lot overall has changed but it’s still moderated to 2024: • Hell Let Loose Guide: ...
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Hot tip: to make your spotter a sniper for a stationary target, just use your binoculars to aim at the head then swap to rifle without moving the directional input. The rifle will be automatically aimed where the binoculars were so you can headshot. Perfect for kar98 with the flare gun
I forgot that was a thing I’ll be honest, I don’t use that but I do know what you are talking about, i appreciate that little tip!
I abuse the shit out of this playing officer
Its funny how this works the exact same way in MW2022 regardless of game mode, 6v6, Warzone or DMZ. Spotter scope swap and boom headshot lol.
Whaaaaat? About to go try this
Not anymore. The little movement doesn’t make it as accurate as before.
Addition tips:
Get a Jeep to go fast to enemy line.
Drop ammo with the jeep on 2 places you can reach later in the round.
Use the Jeep ammo supply to get more flares for leader more AP mines for sniper.
Place the jeep so can pick it up later (not next to the op) for quickly go Arty or Place garrison's for commander if far away locations.
Can also follow enemy Supply truck with the jeep, but that is more luck than skill.
Jeeps aren’t bad to use after the first 10 minutes or so if you get destroyed trying to get around, and are very fast and fun to drive. it’s unfortunate you can’t get them at the start, also I’m surprised they aren’t used more, might need to look into that, the new jeeps are fun though
Love going spotter, get behind Enemy Lines spot tanks, enemy's, destroy garrisons n nodes supplies also make garrisons at the next point ready to take it quickly
Indeed it is, fast capping the next point is a great feeling, even if you can’t hold it long it buys time for your team
Great video!
As a new player who always plays rifleman, the second role I like to play is recon either as spotter or sniper and this helped a lot.
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Thank you bud, it’s appreciated!!! Glad this video helped you!
Great video guide man. Hope this will spread around and players will learn from that. Love it when I am in a game and I can coordinate with commander and other recon team to get offensive garrisons up, spot for vehicles, infantry and mainly their garrisons. Hope that this channel grows, I got over 400 hours in this game and still I got some new tips for my next game. Keep it up champ. See ya on the battlefield!!!
I appreciate bud, it means a lot! I’ve got stuff planned for the future and I’m hoping for the best, I appreciate your time!
Hello, How can I build thoose garrisons for all the team? I mean a garrison on enemy lines, not only for the recon team. PLEASE, I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO OPEN AIR SUPPLY
I just started playing this about two weeks ago. I was a bit timid to jump into another class like this but glad I found your video. Thanks for the advice :)
I’m glad it was of some help, i appreciate the feedback! Best of luck out there!
The Recon unit is also helpful in building garrisons on suppliers dropped behind the lines. Maps such as Remagen are a pain for the infantry to push across but if recon is on the other side, they could make a garrison and make a 2 prong assault on the bridge.
Nice one! Renewed my knowledge a bit. Keep up the good work!
I’ll do my best, glad it was of some help, thank you!
Great video! Only thing I would add is that you should always request supply drops from your commander for building red zone garrisions. They can change the tide of the game real quick if done right
Very true, another reason why recon can make or break games with those flanking garrisons. Although those supply drops can give away your position, at times, but more often than not, you can get a flanking garrisons at least up and not destroyed within 10 seconds lol. This video looking bak was not perfect and I appreciate the feedback!
Hello, How can I build thoose garrisons for all the team? I mean a garrison on enemy lines, not only for the recon team. PLEASE, I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO OPEN AIR SUPPLY @@ChaoticHammer_
@@josemanuelbabugia8377 As a spotter, you equip your watch and bring up the garrison outline, once you are near the 100 supplies (within 50 meters) it should allow you to place a garrison in the red zone, provided you aren’t playing offensive as the DEFENDING team as it won’t let you place red zone garrisons during that particular game mode and team.
Love the clip at the end, of gramps. Nice touch there was pretty funny.
Hot tip though, don’t play spotter when you’re new to the game, I made that mistake. Personally I think that playing the regular officer and learning how the unit officer works first helps learning how to become a great spotter because then you would’ve already learned how to make call outs, communicate with command and place down OP’s in ways to attack arty and also search for enemy garrisons closer to your own lines. Although I don’t have many chances to play spotter when you do make sure to always communicate your movements with your sniper and let command know what your course of action is
Great advice!
Personally I drop my OP somewhere between enemy left or right HQ and the middle HQ. That way you can get back to Arty quickly if needed, it's usually safe if sighted correctly you loose your op quickly if you attack arty from the same direction constantly. If you're killed start at the OP again and work back to the points via a differnt route trying to find garries, nodes etc really effective.
OP placement is a bit of a gray area and depends on what you are trying to accomplish/what approach you wish to take, and since every match is different, i agree with what you are saying, if the enemy team is paying attention, they might find you if you are moving recklessly/doing the same attack pattern.
Killing the commander doesn't stop him from using abilities unless you headshot him or grenade him. He can still call things in when down but not out.
Yeah after I made the video I realized this was wrong, I just tested it because I actually originally thought you couldn’t deploy stuff when down. I think at some point it was that but I think it has changed in the current state of the game (that or I thought on PC it was different because of the difference between the console version and PC version and I wish I did better overall knowing the differences when I made the video) and I apologize for the wrong info on that and i appreciate you bringing that to my attention
Did not know that wow
I started like 2 days ago and out of all the different classes I've tried. The spotter class was my favorite.
Dang, I had no idea this video would blow up as much as it has, i appreciate it a lot, this video blew away my expectations. If you like this video, I have more up on the channel with more on the way soon, thank you guys for watching, I appreciate your time!
Spotter is my favorite class in the game. Too bad I got to Level 10 too quickly and now I need to work on other classes 🤣
Tip: A good place to find nodes is along the border between the first and second sector
I play spotter a lot as well and it’s my favorite. I’m in the same boat, I got to level 10 really quick lol. Now, my usual sniper and I switch off and I play sniper and he plays spotter. The fact that spotter can make such an impact including the autonomy you get for the class is very enjoyable.
Hello, How can I build thoose garrisons for all the team? I mean a garrison on enemy lines, not only for the recon team. PLEASE, I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO OPEN AIR SUPPLY
@@josemanuelbabugia8377 you don’t open it. Just build a garrison within 50 meters of 100 Supplies
Good video
Pretty decent video concerning Recon 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you!
I love to play as recon in this game. I finally found the destined role for me play with. You can sneak behind enemy lines, pass information to your whole team and cause as much damage to the enemy by destroying garrisons or advanced posts.
Proper recon play wins games, glad you found a role for you
@@ChaoticHammer_ This game is like chess. Every move by each role might influence in a match's results.
@@wolvesgabemaster5385 it’s a RTS and shooter at the same time which I love. Every little thing can matter
This background music reminds me so much of my youth watching LA Beast
You're missing one of the most important spotter functions, especially if the next objective is known - get behind lines and request a supply drop a safe distance away. Put your OP down near the drop and move to a 2nd position and request a 2nd drop...typically N & S or E & W of the point. When your team caps the current objective put a garry down, redeploy and put a 2nd garry down. When done correctly, your team comes in from 2 rear positions often taking the defense by surprise and overwhelming them.
Another good tip for spotters in Offensive mode - once you take the middle position and get to the back of the map, check all 3 enemy HQs. If you see a supply crate there, (or to a lesser extent, nodes) then it is a given that their final objective is not in front of that HQ (since you cannot drop crates in the 4 squares surrounding the final objective). If 2 of the 3 HQs have nodes, after taking them down you can pretty much assume where the final objective is, and then get your supply requests in accordingly.
Tip for Defensive mode - at the start of the game spawn on the default garry that is in front of your 2nd objective and immediately run behind lines to the square opposite your 2nd defensive point. Once the first point is lost, you can stay behind lines. Stay hidden and there is a really good chance that at some point the enemy will build a garrison in that square to attack. Come from behind and take the garry out. As long as you stay within that one single square, you won't get timed out.
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I appreciate the comment and i appreciate the respectfulness of it, I wanted to say that up front.
Overall I agree with the principle you have stated, the garrisons you can place behind the lines and preparing for the next point is a big one and I should have mentioned it more. Only thing I have to this is that you have to walk a fine line between preparing for the next point and helping the team advance or defend (scenario permitting) airdrops are the easy way to get supplies to you and have them ready for garrisons but you have to hope that no one is paying attention to the air. But a counter to that argument would be to sneak a supply truck behind the lines. I’m someone who isn’t afraid to backcap the enemy objective knowing they have no garrison in or around the point, but the success to that is varied and there are debates about that. But overall I see your point and I should try that a bit more in my games.
The HQ bit I think I just forgot to mention, I already employ that in my tactics on offensive mode and i appreciate that it was brought to my attention.
The defensive one is a mixed bag, I think are are numerous ways you could handle that, I think it would be better to simply play flank control, that itself can vary. But usually teams try to hit the sides of an objective with airheads hitting the back, I see your point in going behind the lines to wait for the enemy to head towards you but I feel like that can be too passive at times compared to hunting down garrisons elsewhere as they come up and using their own airdrops against them. (I might have missed the point you had on this one though, as I think you mean to go into the read zone? Problem with that is after awhile it will push you out or kill you after couple of minutes. At least on console)
Looking back at this video it wasn’t perfect in both an editing sense and information sense, which I plan to revamp in a year or so for potential new features. I also wanted to keep it under 15 minutes. At the time I was very new to video making and didn’t know much, at least to now but I still have a lot to learn. This is a long-winded response but i appreciate your time and and your respectful comment and I’ll look to do a better job with my info and take more things into consideration. I hope you enjoyed the video though.
@@ChaoticHammer_ No, it was a great video with lots of good points, I just wanted to add some :)
The point I was making about defense is that you can't get behind lines until the 2nd objective is lost. For instance, on an E/W map, columns A and B...once they turn red you can't get back there because you'll time out. However, if you're back there before the first objective is lost, (while it's still friendly territory) then you can stay back there as long as you stay in the one single square you're in when the objective is lost. On console, you don't time out until you leave whatever 200 X 200m square you're in. So, I'll run opposite my team's 2nd objective and sit in that square until the enemy builds a garrison, then take it out from behind. I agree; starting with the 3rd objective you should just flank wide and work your way into the red zone. Running to the 2nd column before losing the first objective is just a quick trick to get around normally not being able to access the first 2 columns. It can be especially effective because the enemy is not expecting anyone to be able to access that area.
I too drive supply trucks behind lines when I can, but the downside of that is the noise the trucks make and that you only get the 2 crates. Add to that, it's much quicker to leave your OP by one set of supplies and lie waiting by the next and just redeploy as opposed to driving. What I've found, is that if you're back far enough, (typically 4 squares) the enemy is often too focused on defending the current point and they usually don't see supplies coming down, especially if you're a good 200-300M from the point. Besides, if they do see them, you're usually too far away and they typically won't be able to zero in on where exactly they landed. Plus, once you take the next objective, those "behind lines" garrisons become front line garrisons for the next objective.
Been playing HLL since October 2021 when it first came out. I think it's one of the best games I've every played and I never grow tired of it. I'm at level 230something right now and I still pick up new strategies and techniques all the time.
I hear ya, I greatly appreciate, I wanted to make sure you got something out of it. I appreciate these comments greatly for a multitude of reasons. I see what you mean now on both bits and I’m glad we got the defense one cleared up. I see what you mean being ready for when they finally move in before they take the first point and using that to destroy a garrison that they wouldn’t expect to lose. The truck bit I understand but the noise I don’t think is as noticeable as an airdrop but if you are behind the lines that far very few will notice. I’ve been playing since around Dec. 2021 and I enjoy the game a crap ton, I wish I got more time to enjoy it overall but it’s a great game and love to play it
Great video, but nice if folks drops the background music ( my opp:-))
Your video guides are some of the best around for HLL and I really appreciate the work you do. If I could suggest one thing that would elevate your content even further, it would be to follow a written script for your commentary. I say this because you tend to go on asides after touching on a major point; and while that isn't a bad thing and can provide useful information, it is distracting and can take away from the main idea you're trying to get across. Running a "first draft" video through a transcribing program and then simply reading it aloud for the second take is a technique I find useful to both organize my thoughts and get rid of verbal chaff. I feel this could go a long way to adding some additional professionalism to your guides while retaining the personality and the obvious love for the game that makes your guides so enjoyable to watch.
I appreciate the feedback, I had a script I did make but it wasn’t as detailed as I wanted I found myself constantly changing words, and it never did get finished, and due to my over-explaining nature, it got frustrating when it came time to do voice over bits. I’m still working on kinks and what I can do better. I’ll work on that in the future and I really appreciate the constructive feedback and praise, it means a lot!
I totally understand bro, and I'm the exact same way so I just figured I'd share what helps me. If you're interested, another technique I use is to set a time goal for myself, ie if the first draft is 5 minutes long, the second should attempt 4 and a half. Though often easier said than done, I find it helps me really focus in on the point I'm trying to make.
@@logan.horning understood, it’s very appreciated!
This is the best spotter video on YT still in 2023
I was hoping it would be good with what the new updates have lately, thank you for the feedback!
Good shit.
Thank you!
Small critique but the ding sound effects at the beginning should probably be accompanied by something on screen like check marks or something. good vid 😄
The way I had them originally was supposed to be for when I named off the different topics to cover, I had to make some last second editing after the video was made and they got messed up in the process. I was curious when someone would mention that lol. Thank you for the feedback though it’s appreciated
13:12 historical footage right here, straight from a documentary
Mark felton would be proud lol
Another important spotter role is building garrisons. You can often get them where others can't.
Yeah looking back on this video there’s a bit I would change, (also being my first guide was an experiment lol) I wish I talked the garrison aspect about setting up garrisons more, and I think I will probably revamp this video in the future. I appreciate the feedback
I like to alternate between charging the enemy artillery and flare-redeploying-flare cycling to give wall hax to our team.
You do you😊
Ok, I'm missing something. What is that quick pop-up menu you keep using, looks like maybe 4 selections, one to the right being something like ??Leadership Radio?? I know the regular menu for marking Out Posts, Garrys, Infantry, Requesting Supplies, etc.
So the four selections that I think you are talking about is for the different voice channels (blue being proximity chat, green being squad chat, white being party chat, aka: the people you party up with before you get in game if you have a party, if not the white chat will not show up at all, and the red option is for command/officer chat)
@@ChaoticHammer_ That menu must be a Xbox/Console thing? I've never seen it for PC.
@@swampfox72 it might be, I’m still trying to get all of the differences between console and Pc down, i know overall there isn’t a lot of differences besides the vote for certain maps, the “kick player” ability, and other small things like that but overall the games are the same, the voice chat wheel is probably the simplest they could do for the console version due to less buttons/keys available
I have a question, when I throw the flare in the air, everything it spots I'm the only one seeing the targets enemies in the radar or other people's see it too in the map tha red dot ecc..?
Everyone can see the red dots from flares, it’s recon planes that the commander calls in that only certain classes can see
@@ChaoticHammer_ thank you bro much appreciated ♥️
I’m often stuck with a scout that never talks
how to play recon - 300 iq tactical gameplay
how to play infantry - press w and left mouse button
Yeah-at least when it’s done properly! (… and sadly not the way most amateurish and self-centred “snipe-snipe” recon squads play 🤦🏻♂️)
it's hard to take out supply trucks with just a rifle though, it's easier to kill the the driver of a moving vehicle with an SMG than a bolt action rifle
Yeah, it is a bit hard but it is possible, and if you stop a truck it can make a difference so its kind of why I mentioned also mostly so people understand to use stealth and at least a time it’s good to fire your weapon, just giving my thought process on why I included that
Ik the spotter of our server, job is to fuck around behind neemt lines haha
In a very simple way, pretty much lol
I pick spotter only for the automatic gun lol
How can the spotter be underplayed when every game has 2x 2/2 recon squads
Most people usually want to be sniper more than spotter, that’s what I talking about, I know there are a decent amount of fully filled recon teams at times, but there are also plenty of matches that recon squads won’t have a spotter but will have a lone sniper, for any reason.
@@ChaoticHammer_ in 700hrs played I've noticed some lone sniper without spotter a handful of times. I've seen more squads without officers than I have recon without a spotter.
It's also the first type of squad to get filled in any match.
I know what you're trying to say but underplayed isn't true.. but the glory is in the sniper role, I'll admit that.
@@TheSometimeAfter with the officer bit, or any commander type role, people tend to not play or simply avoid for varying reasons, I’ll give you that, there’s just many times while I have played over the year and half that I’ve had the game, every other game or every third lobby, there’s usually one lone sniper by themselves, and at the start of games spotters will leave when they figure out they can’t play sniper. Idk if you are on console or PC, me being in console it’s a noticeable issue in my personal experience, but it might not be as bad as maybe I thought and or made it out to be and I apologize if I was making in wrong statement and I appreciate the feedback
@@ChaoticHammer_ I guess the situation is very different on PC compared to consoles.
Hopefully people see your video and understand the great benefit the spotter role plays.
A good recon team can help take a point without being on the point themselves.
@@TheSometimeAfter i appreciate the points you brought up, if there’s ways to improve my videos with better info it’s appreciated, also to get different perspectives.
I appreciate the respect for video and hoping people see it, I’m surprised this video has gotten this many views and still going.
And true with that last bit, the amount of times my sniper and I have solo capped…it’s such a great feeling. A great recon team makes or breaks games
holy crap people on xbox are so bad it makes me wnat to play on xbox just for that 😫
Do it. Ide love to see ur prodigy gamer genes rock a joystick
@@FuhzyLiquids ok 🥺
@@fatdoggolovespizza ok like ur putting money were mouth is? Ide tune into a stream to watch you fumble around like a toddler on console
@@FuhzyLiquids I actually played COD with my cousin on console the other day and I was doing well, consistently 3rd or so on my team with 2.5 KD. Guess I'm not too bad with a controller even though I suck with it /:
@@FuhzyLiquids unfortunately I don't care enough about you to do a stream for you ):
omfg the amount of map checking makes it distractingggg
It’s a good habit and one well worth learning if you want to excel at this game. Most veteran players have developed an intractable map-checking ‘tic’ every 5-10 seconds!
Wrong, def recon is meta. hunting down enemy garrisons in your bluezone and being, you know a spotter, providing the team with intel with flares or binos While your sniper is doing nothing besides trying to top frag the game getting the most kills. Against good teams when you are in the back and are taking down locked garrisons you will get strafed and a squad will counter you and wipe your op. A 2 man inf squad with AT is 100% better to take out these garrisons, can also harrass new tanks and trucks coming from hq and satchel nodes.
In offensive and being the defending team this can be more true, in warfare, not as much unless your team digs in at a point. hunting down enemy blue zone garrisons and preventing an angle of attack that they may be using is big to helping the team, but you can still hunt down red zone garrisons as well as they are sometimes more important to destroy, as commanders and officers for the other team will try to place them there for the slower destroy time and the 15 meter radius they take to block them compared to 100 meters if they build garrisons in the blue (the other teams red zone) zone. I don’t think it’s necessarily wrong to hunt down red zone “buildings” especially to help your team in both offense and defense depending on game mode.
In regards to getting strafed and things being guarded by squads that want to guard and or hunt me down, that’s men and resources they are wasting to kill one or two guys that they might need on the front line to stop the main army, and they aren’t always successful. If squads want to hunt me down, fine, I’ll keep moving the outpost, if I have to I’ll disengage and move to another area, there are many important areas for a behind the lines recon can hit and if they want to guard them, cool, they won’t have as many guys to hold the front line and it’ll cost them. Also with a sniper (a lot of the vid is more for if you have a sniper that isn’t talking, cooperative, etc) you can do so much more with the new update in regards to hunting red zone garry’s and nodes.
Regular infantry squads with AT can destroy any garrison easily, I’ll give you that but sometimes using a rocket isn’t ideal especially if the other team has a crap ton of tanks. Hopefully this addressed most of your points if I understood what all was being said and i appreciate the feedback
@@ChaoticHammer_ What ever mate I'm lvl 500 on Pc and have played commander in multiple comp games, dont take my advice and give people bad advice see if I care. At a point you will realize I am right.
I just was addressing your points bud, I’m fine hearing a different viewpoints as there are numerous ways to play the game and potentially debate them with my counterpoints, that’s what this comment section is for, you do you at the end of the day.
@@ChaoticHammer_ Its a TH-cam comment section I aint going to write 4 essays to prove that you are wrong. Just be assured you a 3 levels of thinking behind the current meta. With some more xp you will gain a better perspective.
Cool, have a nice day, enjoy new years!