imagine someone living in a dump, rooms all messy and cluttered, in pjs and haven't showered, they just wear these and VR the entire room, now they're living in their dream house. I can see humanity going there. Sounds like the perfect plot for a dystopian sci fi film 🍿
Been done. Look for the movie "Virtual Revolution" renamed "2047: Virtual Revolution". Mid film but the subject is VR and how everyone spends their time there instead of IRL.
Or if you could connect into their virtual space, like walking into their house and it’s just open apps lying around everywhere half finished movie sitting open with another one overlapping it. Virtual clutter
Wouldn’t they be tripping over stuff? Could be an end to endlessly buying breakable things that will end up in landfill by replacing them with virtual goods (can’t stop buying stuff, what would happen to capitalism…?)
Am I the only one who thinks about mental health worsening? When you take this thing off and it is kinda silent... and empty in your house and you feel bored and have to retrospect a little and watch your thoughts a little... feel the frustration passing through... and use a book for your recipes... that's what's keeping us sane!
That's why people get addicted to VRChat app. People literally live their life on VRChat, as it slowly subsitutes their 'real' life. It has been an old topic in VR community
Yes, all tech like this has a potential for poor side effects. Look no further than smart phones and young peoples inability to focus or hold an intelligent in person conversation using full sentences.
I think all tech has adverse effects on mental health to some degree or another. The song "The Sound of Silence" is about the very thing you're describing-- how people become lost in a digital world and stop talking to one another. But we also forget how much tech has enabled communication. There are benefits and downsides.
I was reading a book called Accelerando. It's a sci fi book about the rapid acceleration of technology. This book released in 2005 but the protagonist in 2010/2020 walks around with smart glasses getting a constant barrage of notifications. I found the book to be mid and DNFd it. But then a week later Apple released their thing and people started to walk around with th3 giant apple vision on their face. I was like .. guess I'm finishing Accelerando anyway
@@psilynt1 Yeah, I think Pamela, the "conservative Dominatrix" character kinda grinded my gears. I mean at one point she even SA's the main character. Also felt like the book should have started one or two decades in the future. But it is competently written. At some points it almost reminds me of William Gibson, (It's clearly written to be cool) although the prose is nowhere near as good and the tech mumbo jumbo is actually real for the most part. In fact in parts it's quite brilliant talking about the importance of Neural Networks, rise of small drones etc things which were far before its time. It's clear that Charles Stross knows his technology
I wish they would apologise for the apologies! “I recorded on a sub woofer amp low resonance wavelength while syncing with a hi amp feedback blah blah “ Don’t hear anything wrong and dunno wtf they’re on about 😂
As a low level creator, I never point out when my audio is clipping. No one will notice an error until I point it out, at which point, everyone will notice ;)
In terms of connection, I am a 56 year old woman, not your average vr enthusiast, but I have a quest 3 and both my kids have a quest 2. We are in three different states and regularly play games together (including Walkabout Minigolf). I am also a chronic pain patient and have found exercising in VR fun enough to distract me from the pain of exercising. But on disability I will probably never be able to afford the Apple stuff, so there’s that.
They should give you a massive discount (or us?) if we are disabled in any way in which it would actually help those who could really benefit from it. iunno I'm naive. lool
The main difference for me between vr sets and smartphones is that smartphones did what at the time only pc's could but in a more convenient way with a few more features, while vr sets do what pcs and smartphones do but in a less convenient way with mostly novelties. The only way it could be majorly adopted as a regular everyday device is if it could be reduced to the size of a pair of glasses, which not only sounds almost impossible but also the cables would definetely not go away, so for me it would be mostly a novelty.
@@Blankult Sure! The wireless part isn’t the hardest part when you are talking about a format similar to regular glasses. The lenses are the hard part.
Totally agree. It's a fun novelty sure sure, but just not something I'm going to use all the time. I kinda like not having things on my head. Even my glasses annoy me.
You can go ahead and put me in the dragging, kicking, and screaming club! I saw an add where someone was learning piano on one. And I think being able to be deeply submersed in a learning experience is really a strong selling point. Deeper learning without distractions. Other than that, I don’t think I’ll ever need one for anything!
@joescott Oh yea I see what you mean. But that just adds more weight to my orignal comment. Being so Texas you try for an Australian accent but the state says "We're gonna go ahead and override that..." As a lifelong Midwesterner I had to stop myself from starting my comment with Ope. Keep on keeping on...
i worry that this will be too much for our society that is already inundated with advertising and algorithms at all hours of the day. I can just see the reality of a world inundated with more and more ads and its scary.
Agreed. I’ll do fine with hiking as usual. But every day reveals to me how easily controlled human beings are. Walk them to hell while wearing a a ‘swimsuit’ and they’ll walk right into it, with a VR headset on.
@@Godspeedysick people are gullible and always have been. You promise them something they want or feel like they need, and you already got them by the balls. I won't deny I am any different though, it's just human nature is unable to deal with lies and grifts
imagine yourself perfectly decorating your living space ,living in harmony and then one day your Something Glasses brake and you realise your apartment looks like a junkie's place, with one box(read closet) for "stuff" and a neat matrace on the floor
How about an NFC collection of real digital 3D art? Could you Imagine getting something like that for your Vision Pro? Asking for a relative Professional painter...
Joe has some of the best thumbnails out there. It's clickbait but it's often an accurate depiction of the video so it's not clickbait. The video titled "...And then 1700 people died" is a good example.
The problem is full head tracking consumer VR headsets have been around for over 25 years, the same old problem exists on the latest iterations, most people do NOT want to wear them for many hours every day, there is simply no getting around it.
@@Battleneter I honestly think that the weight of it has to be intentional. If it didn’t get to a point of discomfort then people would instantly find ways to never have to leave it and want to live their entire lives through the thing. Battery life and heavy shit are the only things saving us from ourselves right now lol 😄
Possible use: Quadriplegics and people will ALS disease. When my sister was alive last year we wanted to put my son's VR headset on her but her BiPAP mask (that she needed to breathe 24/7) got in the way. But this, with eye tracking, might improve quality of life for certain disabled people. BTW this is AR not VR, said my son who's an expert in XR tech.
I think there's a use case there. Of course if you can't use your hands that could cause an issue. They do have some accessibility options that might make it possible.
Indeed, quadriplegics are one of the use cases. I am one and I have been using my iPad using nothing but my voice. The accessibility feature Voice Control has been a godsend. I was really excited about the Apple Vision Pro and what I can do with it using the accessibility aids... that is, right until I saw a video by Brian Tong which makes a deep dive into the accessibility tab. And I was disappointed. They have not thought of alternate voice commands to replace the hand gestures. Hopefully, future versions would incorporate that and allow me to use them as well as I use my iPad currently. And not to be argumentative but the device is indeed XR since it does incorporate elements of VR especially when you are in the immersive environments or watching a movie in theatre mode. But your son is right; right now, AVP is primarily AR.
Anyone remember the film Strange days from the 90's? It was a dystopian type movie about VR addiction. In the movie you could buy memories, ranging from homicide to secs and the reason it was so addictive is because you basically lived and felt everything that the person who originally experienced it did.This is what I think about when I ponder the connection between virtually reality headsets and neural link. Sure we are very far away from anything resembling that but once we get there, what we will do with that possibility? On a more realistic note, military drones and ground based platforms that can be controlled remotely but viewed in first person doesn't seem very far away.
When we look at societies around the world it appears people are having a difficult time dealing with life as it actually exists. I wonder what adding a layer - the augmented reality - on top of an already fraught, difficult reality. Does it make life simpler? For whom? What demographic is served by these devices? What problems is it solving or attempting to? Does it extend our presence and engagement with each other and our surroundings? How? I'm a sociologist and I have many questions about the technology and its contexts and impacts.
Right, and we haven't even discussed the fragmentation of reality and choosing to live in one's own echo chamber, which is already happening due to populist politics and selective media consumption.
This kind of tech (most probably not this iteration) definitely has the potential of making life much easier in multiple scenarios, for example in anything that requires designing something with human scale in mind, be it exhibitions, buildings, events, renovations, interior design, set dressing, etc. Someone else in the comments talked about piping, that's actually a great idea, imagine having a blueprint of your house that you can see through on top of the real thing, it would prevent many accidents and make repairs easier, not to mention the fact that you could have a tutorial playing right beside you. Or imagine being at a conference or convention and having contacts in real time (ideally by willing users), or having the possibility to record and transcribe in real time what the relator is saying on stage. I could also see this being useful in medicine or other scenarios where having your hands free but still being able to quickly access information might be crucial. I mean, there are many possible uses for a layer of information added on top of reality, it's a bit like asking "what is a computer/internet useful for". Unless you where asking about life in a broader sense, like finding meaning or something like that, but that won't be solved by any particular technological gadget so it would be a pointless - and I would say unfair - question to ask, just because it doesn't solve all of humanity's problems it doesn't mean it's without merit or applications (nor does this mean it won't create issues, just like computers, Internet and the smartphone have).
Same could be said for any technology. Had smart phones really made life better.. Did laptops and tablets make life better? When I was young we would sit together as a family watching TV. It brought the family together with a shared experience. Now it's easy to stream anything but something is lost. It seems technology makes life better but was life so bad without it? The years before mobile phones you would go out more, interact more in person. I think it was a better time
As a sociologist, you'll be very much aware that the forum to answer the questions you ask does not exist. There is no "public forum", "national conversation" or other such bollocks that can't possibly exist beyond the local level. Nobody is in control of this.
In the end I only used my Quest 2 for flight sims. Now it has been at a friend's house for the past 3 months. I would probably never buy a VR headset again. It was an interesting oddity, but once I had the experience I no longer desired it.
Eh it depends on the types of games you play. I play a lot of flat screen games ported to VR personally and with those it improves the experience. (No Man's Sky, Skyrim, Lethal Company, Phasmophobia etc) If you only play the big expensive AAA/AA titles then Yee you're probably wasting money on your VR headset because they're few and far between.
I've gotta be honest, the novelty is powerful but it does wear off over time. I think that's why people struggle to maintain their VR habit. (having said that, I know some people who are real enthusiasts and never get tired of it. Different strokes, I guess)
I found a loophole in our health insurance that let me basically get a free Fitbit. Half my coworkers ended up jumping on it as well, since the terms were pretty generous. I lost it like two weeks later.
“I just look, like… embalmed” lmao 😂 That was actually the most accurate description of these ‘persona’ things I’ve seen yet because I could never quite put my finger on it, but now that’s all I’m ever going to see haha 😆🤦🏻♂️
As someone will many mental health issues, the timers for certain actions around the house seems phenomenal. I hate doing any house work because I feel like I am just waiting for laundry machines to finish or not knowing what to do next. I can imagine a life where I put on the head set with nice music and pleasant backyard so that I could focus on tidying up the house. Truly revolutionary technology for many uses but especially people who have trouble doing things around the house and focusing. Having a TH-cam video in the background but still in focus can be a hinderance for many people but that’s how I can complete tasks. I don’t know the cost but might be worth it as an investment into quality of life
The reason I follow you because you are real Joe. You are human… you make mistakes just like everyone does but you don’t hide it… you just go with it… you just look someone really cool to hang out with.. keep up the good videos.
One thing I feel like is missing is having shared experiences. Like, there’s games where we can have social conversations (like Rec Room) but nothing that helps us have the optional shared experience like watching a movie together or even browsing the web. It would be nice to be able to converse with others and have those experiences together.
Exactly. Me and my buddies resort to just hanging out in Wander. We jump around place to place around the world and use that as conversation starters. But it would be so cool if we could just come to our own immersive virtual living rooms and hang out
I’ve been anticipating this, and have actually been working on a spatial object communication protocol for the past few years that would allow multiple goggle wearers to see and interact with the same virtual objects. Kind of like TCP/IP for AR.
Joe you do NOT suck. You are amazing. Thank you for being transparent about any glitches in your videos. We all just want to see one each week, but realize how much work it is to make this happen! Positive self talk Joe!
Again, I love how you went about this The way you use humor to retain perspective Knowing the pitfalls of introducing new technologies, I feel threaded the needle pretty well I never regret watching your stuff
Since my parents' generation is becoming elderly, and even late middle-age issues with mobility, I hope this gadget (or one like it) will be available for people who want to keep learning, traveling, interacting; long after the ability to walk, or see clearly, or hear clearly. I'd hope they would make a version for older people who won't be walking around much, but still want to see parts of the world they didn't get a chance to when they were healthier. Or be in the audience of a theater, opera, or rock concert (can you imagine seeing the Beatles live, in front of you?). That's my hope for this tech, anyway.
Can't wait till someone creates an holonovel, deck/Suite app. With generative ai 3d models and backgrounds, people create 3d novels to explore and experience. Any novel becomes a 3d world generated in real time, like a holodeck
While this is no doubt a cool piece of technology, my biggest question is whether we really want it to happen and become mainstream. We're already getting bombarded by hundreds of notifications a day on our phones to a point where notification fatigue is a thing. Now instead of a small vibration in your pocket, all the tiring notifications, chats, ads and tens of apps will be there in your view, all the time. Sounds kind of dystopian to me but i guess we'll see how this goes.
"We're already getting bombarded by hundreds of notifications a day on our phones to a point where notification fatigue is a thing." Err, nope. Got rid of my last smartphone a few years ago and don't miss having one.......:)
i mean, you can just turn notifications off? Wait for this to become cheap and nerds have developed open operating systems for it, then it's absolutely fine. Like i recently got a google pixel of all things, which you can easily install lineageos-microg on, and then you have all the comforts of a modern phone with basically none of the drawbacks. Donate to the open source nerds if you want the future to not be dystopian.
05:28- NICE use of the cloth on the scale! As JerryRigEverything pointed out, THAT black 'Glass' front cover scratches at level 2 with deeper grooves at level 3! 😏😉 😎🇬🇧
I haven't seen a lot of comments mentioning the game Heavy Rain, which released in 2010. One of the playable characters, an FBI agent named Norman Jayden, used an AR headset to solve crimes. They called it ARI - Added Reality Interface - and it looked like a beefy pair of sunglasses which required a special glove to operate via gestures. ARI was a more capable Apple Vision Pro, only 14 years ago. They nailed the whole AR aspect as well as having the ability to dive into a fully immersive environment. My favorite ARI moment was Norman bouncing a virtual ball against a wall and catching it. I found the introduction of ARI unusual; it seemed reasonable that tech would eventually get there, but it made me wonder which decade Heavy Rain was set in. Incidentally, ARI made Norman very sick and played a role in his death depending on your choices.
I like the idea of comparing the vision to the iphone in opening, because if the trajectory is the same, that means you should ignore it until the 4th one comes out.
Lol. It already has good military applications. The coolest ones turn opaque in less than a microsecond? Classified ; to prevent nuclear bomb flash blindness beginning in f16 fighter jet pilots
Yeah, but isn't this VR thing going on for a decade now? Mobile phones were already a success when apple took the next step with the iPhone. VR has never been a success for the 3 decades it's been around.
What's interesting to me about augmented reality is we all know what the end game is: something that looks like traditional reading glasses. But we are so far away. Whereas with smartphones, the iPhone was truly revolutionary in providing a new control scheme. The apple vision pro provides a novel control scheme but people are wishing for a smaller form factor. I'm not sure it will make the same cultural impact
@@tedarcher9120Exactly. We had the technology for the iPhone, apple just decided to come up with that game changing form factor. The technology for AR glasses does not exist, only the technology to strap a phone to your face does, and that can only get so good.
They really should have put the computer into the battery brick. The future of smart-glasses is going to be much like the current smart-watches. The accessory device is simply a screen/camera with minimal processing power, the main processor is your phone/home computer. This will minimize the size and weight of the accessory, making it more acceptable to wear. I suppose the Vision-pro can link up to your Mac and use it as an AR screen. But it still didn't need to put the processing of the vision on your head.
That's sort of exactly why I'll never get into the augmented reality thing. Even if they're not just using it as a vector to deliver ads straight into your eyeballs from every angle _today_ - recent history suggests they'll do it _soon_ . So, no thanks.
I saw the robot with the lady jamming out and thought "RUN! RUN! NOW! GO, GO, GO! WHATS WRONG WITH YOU LADY?!?!" Just like in bad horror movies! Lol! 😄
The thing is though, I kinda don’t want a layer on top of my reality. I applaud you for being so tech positive, but for me this feels like where I wanna draw the line.
As a person with motion sickness, 2 minutes after putting it on. I would be down for the count for at least 2 days after using for 10 minutes. It’s why my VR is collecting dust.
20:14 this made me laugh so hard - the old joe scott humor I know and love - that keeps me coming back. So relatable. I haven't laughed this hard in years from this channel.
You do not suck! Please, don't let those negative comments seep in, they'll only reinforce those feelings and snowball. Try to be kinder to yourself. Try to think of positive phrasing when talking or thinking to/about yourself. It's not always easy, but, it's worth it, you are worth it. And yes, I know his chances of seeing this are slim, but just in case, he or anyone else who needs it, does see it. I put it here. Hell, I needed the reminder myself, somehow it's so much easier to be kind to others and not yourself and it's such a bad habit. I wish anyone reading this a wonderful day and many to come.
It's another dog....take your mind out of the gutter🤣 in all honesty, I went back to rewatch that part when I read your comment saying it was a cat to confirm
the whole make it glasses sized, that's been tried for more than a decade at this point. Same with the consumer price, somehow, VR/AR doesn't really get much cheaper, atleast it hasn't for a while
In ten years, because you clicked the notification icon, Joe will walk into your living room to show you his new "video." He will sit on the couch, taking the place of the cat. After all this time the cat still thinks you want her to come over when you look towards her and start talking. Your next cat will probably be virtual. Through a mix of narration, screens, and immersion, Joe will show you his content. Afterwards he looks to you waiting for approval.
10:00 if you took pictures of your rooms downstairs and put those pictures layered overtop of the wall and went upstairs it would look like you're looking through the floor.
Just a reminder, google glass came out 10 years ago and people said all the same things about how it was the start of a new big thing. We have a long long ways to go before "wearing a computer on your face" is a viable thing.
How long did it take to go from Computers to Computers in our pockets? The Star Trek Communicator was in the middle of the 1960's. -- We were Nokias and Motorollas were still the BEST selling phones in the early 2000's. A "long way before viable" is still a hazy glimpse into the future.
I don't entirely disagree with you, but this is Apple we're talking about. They have a way of making things 'cool' and pushing tech forward. Google, on the other hand, is notorious for starting projects and abandoning them in their infancy.
Here's my design tweakage brainstorm: Maybe a good middle step between these bulky, clumsy, ski visor-looking things and the ultimate goal of to miniaturize the hardware down to true eyeglass-scale might be to compress the headset down to something that would resemble a baseball hat. If smart-battery technology takes that leap forward with nanocarbons (be my guest to correct me if I'm horribly mangling the terminology), then perhaps the batteries for such a device could be scaled-down enough to be wafer-thin and fit inside the hat's bill so as to be practically non-invasive. Speaking of that bill, borrowing a design feature from some actual baseball player hats, maybe the lens(-es) could be hinged on the bill so that they could be flipped into and out of use with ease -- no fuss, no muss. Or, you could also just turn the hat backwards, and that action would tell the device to turn itself off or go to sleep, until you turn it back around to your face
and,,,remove the computer from the wearers head. Like a smart watch, The wearable should not contain the main processing unit. You could use your Phone in your pocket to run the device. Or a dedicated brick in your pocket, or your home PC/smart-home device. I'm sure the battery brick that's attached to the vision could have accommodated the computer without much size increase. They need to minimize the size and weight of the wearable before anyone is going to wear these around. The glasses should only run the (screen, cameras, IMU), nothing else. For now, a wire running to your smart phone in your pocket is fine (or more powerful dedicated device). Maybe in the future it would wirelessly run form your PC/smart-home devices while you walk around house. and only need the pocket device when you take it outside.
Or make it passive....include the least silicon possible in the headset and use it tethered to a macbook and/iphone where all the required silicon for the headset are, with the benefit they can share the battery. But I guess Apple wants it to be a "computer" despite the fact that it still requires another device to work.
I think they should remove the outside screen, takes space, weights, costs, its fragileyou name it only for a gimmik. Use an led to let people know cameras are on if that is important.. now for removing the silicon would be hard due to latency of wireless connection. Smartwatch has very small dependency on latency but this is visual wearable you would feel so much the latency...
Just wear the battery, and hardware somewhere else. Only having the display/cameras on the glasses. I would rather wear a phanny pack with some regular glasses or smaller goggles/visor then this. They already have you wear the battery on the belt. So I see no reason why you can't have the hardware there.
I like it, but maybe make it something that fits inside a hat. That way you can change up which hat you wear that day. A ball cap is cool for guys, though I do wear ball caps frequently, most women wanting to be fashionable, don't. You could put it in a sun hat or whatever. Or maybe make the unit stylish in other ways if we can't have a dedicated pair of regular looking glasses. Honestly we're probably not there yet either. Our present isn't sci-fi enough to be wearing technological crowns as fashion.
Hello Joe and greetings from Down-Under. You need to look at how Soldiers set up their Night Vision Goggles (NVG). For the most part, they are attached to the front of a helmet by a mounting arm that allows them to be adjusted to fit the individual wearer, then attached to back of the helmet is a pouch which contains the Counter Weight which is usually about ½ a dozen or so separate metal weights so the correct balance can be achieved, further to this, many of these systems also utilise an external Battery Pack, which again is generally mounted on the back of the helmet, and is connected to the NVG unit via a power cable. For those not needing a helmet, there are various "Skull Crusher" caps, basically a fabric mesh skull cap to which is incorporated an adjustable head band with mounting points similar to those used on helmets, to which all of the aforementioned NVG hardware is attached. It may seem counter intuitive to add weight, but by balancing the set-up, it provides a measure of comfort to the user. In conclusion, here you have the answers to making these new fangled contraptions nicer to use. Congratulations if you made it this far!
Yeh, my sense of touch is so overdeveloped because of these headsets. I cannot believe how my sense of smell has also reached a new level not to mention my heightened sense of taste. My ability to react to unpredictable situations has also increased. Yeh, these headphones are definitely the answer to enjoying a full, happy and complete life. Oh..and my social interaction with strangers is off the charts. The biggest benefit is when I take them off and I have a renewed sense of isolationism and loneliness. I couldn’t be more complete.
The version that WIll on Startrek TNG used that was 'addictive', is the version that we really want to! All these VR glasses need to be not just inexpensive but a killer app. I have no clue what it will be, but it will be a 'must have' for life in the future.
Literally the best review I have seen of the Vision Pro (and I have actually watched several others, I promise). You made clear all of the things the others lacked. Also, it's exactly what I expected, but you were the only one to clarify it. Keep up the good work, sir.
Had to buy a couch the other day and while waiting for the salesperson I sat in one of those huge, electric massage chairs. Full body massage, feet to the top of my head, with heating and cooling. I imagine that's where we'll all end up eventually, in the massage chair with the VR headset on. The only movement necessary will be extracting an arm from the massage sleeve to bring the beer to your mouth.
Why am I envisioning a room full of massage chairs, each occupied by someone wearing a VR headset, and a beer manifold running along the ceiling? Each chair has its own beer feedline from the manifold. Every now and then a pump feeds each person a metered quantity of beer. No effort or movement needed, save for swallowing.
Honestly the feeling of disconnection doesn't surprise me. If you pay attention to a lot of marketing that highlights new/high tech features, it almost always boils down to the removal of a certain experience for convenience. Obviously the fact that it's a vr headset means it should be more focused on adding experiences, but it still sounds like a decent portion of it's features revolve around isolating and controlling the end user's surroundings.
joe your way of making videos makes me coming back, just the way you explain without a filter. i hope you give us an update when the devices and apps improve. love your work keep it up man 😄
I want something like this but not for entertainment. I want an app that detects motion when driving so you can see that sneaky pedestrian walking behind a vehicle, or a car that starts inching out of a drive way you may not notice yet. Maybe it detects debris on the road, or can even analyze reflections and tell the difference between water and ice? You could even have one where it has cameras in the back too so if you're walking home at night it could warn you if someone is about to mug or rob you.
Sounds like you want the Iron Man helmet. Unless Joe is playing the getting ouf of the car and walking around town as a gag, actually my first thought is "When will they adjust the driving laws to class these as distractions like cell phones?" "Hands free" won't be the defining rule to wether you can use this while driving. This is like having a driver able to see a TV while driving.
@@cynvision I'm sure even if the wording of the laws doesn't explicitly cover these, any sane cop would stop someone doing that, and any sane judge would back up that charge. HOPEFULLY. lol
I’ve thought of that actually around a decade or slightly more ago when I was a young teen. My idea is an actual smart glass windshield, instead of just something you must wear, say smart glasses or a VR headset; whereas the windshield on the car itself is actually the screen (2 way view so you could still see out of it like normal glass. Essentially, it would work like an advanced H.U.D. for driving/traveling with obvious safety features and restrictions. It would provide road conditions, directions, temperature, a compass, GPS based location, etc. And most importantly to your comment; it would use advanced A.I. to highlight (with differently colored outlines for example or target boxes/rectangles similar to a digital camera or video camera) other vehicles traveling on the road with you, pedestrians, parked cars, etc. and possible threats/possible dangers to your vehicle with chimed or blinking alerts or even automated avoidance emergency maneuvers. How cool would this be?!
I just leased a 2023 Subaru Ascent, and it and many other new vehicles have a version of this. It's not in the form of video, but in the form of lights or beeps.
As a person who only uses my computer for photoshop, text documents, youtube videos, and to google cooking stuff, and never have enough screen space, this is 100% useful to me. I don't care about gaming. My issue however- and this is a big one, I don't have the money for something like this and no interest in wearing a brick on my face. I hope that the cost and wearability are what come down in the future.
Just get a few extra monitors. It really helps. Just having a second monitor I got from the thrift store for $30 has made it so much easier for me to multitask on the computer when I need to have multiple things open to look back and fourth between them.
I like the idea of the cooking assistance, having the recipe float around with me while my hands are engaged and being able to listen to something like a podcast while I'm doing that. And the timers over the food looked pretty cool. But yeah, no one is buying any hardware to help them with cooking, even when they are fairly A.D.D.
Yea to be honest I’m getting sick of the internet.Cookies,ads,pop ups and error messages constantly. Two factor authentication bullshit with codes and shit for my local garden centre now 😮 Might go back to books and radio….. next week 😂
1.I can see useful applications like "Learn Guitar" successfully developed for the Vision Pro. 2. When I was 5 my family visited Expo 67 in Montreal, I watch videos of Expo 67 on TH-cam and it will bring back vivid memories I have of when I was a child. Eventually I can see a virtual visit to Expo 67 that would give you a spacial experience of the Montreal 67 Expo or say, being at your favorite Grateful Dead concert. Not only would it be entertaining but it could also be used as a memory tool - it could be used to as a Synaptic Plasticity tool for depression and anxiety the way ketamin is being used.
HoloLens is still available but is being targeted at Profesional uses. For example, to be used to allow "experts" to help troubleshooting complex industrial or scientific equipment remotely. The idea being a local technician could wear the HoloLens and the "experts" would see what they see and be able to bring up relevant technical information directly in the field of view of the technician. In a simpler implementation, a technician could see an overlay on top of some equipment that would highlight parts or show the next step in a procedure (say, point out which screw to undo or when putting things back together, it would show the torque setting of a bolt). I got to try one briefly, with just the bare OS running and it looked very similar to the Apple product. Without an application running, I just saw the configuration panel (pretty much Windows 11) floating in a fixed spot in front of me.
@@dwegmull I know all about it, been following it since it's inception. I just wished they stuck with the original plan of eventually bringing it to the retail market. MS is always ahead of the curve, then out of nowhere abandon support
Just like Microsofts PDAs and XDAs before the iPhone. They made smart phones before apple. But they were cool, before their time, and had some big compromises. Hololens field of view is awful. Projection AR is better conceptually, as get to just see really world. but it's incredibly hard to improve it. The virtual items are always going to be translucent, its never going to be able to do decent VR mode, Passthrough AR atleast for foreseeable future going to be the practical AR choice.
Not just Microsoft....it's just the Holo Lens like the other more advanced headsets were meant for businesses/defense bc they were very expensive to be a consumer product. Meta and Apple are just trying to make a headset that can be bought at stores.
Regarding weight... I have an original Vive. It was *very* uncomfortable to wear for more than 20 minutes or so. Specifically the sinus pressure was unbearable. The fix was to actually *add* weight. Specifically about a 6" bar of steel (wrapped in neoprene) to the back of the headset. The counterweight makes it *much* more comfortable for long term use. The very fact that I was able to buy the thing on Amazon (half a decade ago!) meant that it was an issue that needed to be fixed. In my experience, weight distribution is far more important than overall weight. YMMV of course.
It could help you find your keys. I thought about this before: hook an AI to a camera and teach it to remember where things were the last time you saw them. Then you ask "Where are my keys?" The AI would point to the last seen location. Could also help with distinguishing whose are things in a common household with a big family (7+ people, like us) and where things belong (sorting dishes from the dishwasher). These are essentially simple tasks. I believe AI handling will be a norm in the future. I studied AI at uni.
@@zorktxandnand3774 "I will not talk to someone on their phone." Lots of people are doing that, even if you aren't, so be prepared for this probable inevitability, if in or closer to the form of smart glasses.
Eh. If people want to use it, they should use it. Performative mockery is tedious, and very middle school. Headset users shouldn't (and probably won't) care about it.
It seems to me it should be perfectly possible to enter your prescription into the VR glasses and have it make the necessary correction automatically, without you needing to buy extra clip-in lenses. Once that happens, I presume it could also adjust for near or distance vision, which might be a big selling point for those of us over 50. (My eye doctor tells me that's about when all of us lose auto-focus.)
That's creepy that they have spatial space memory.. that means they got all the data wherever you use it.. They remember where or what inside your private space..
Yeah but Apple has a good privacy track record, that's why you're not hearing stuff about the crazy amount of cameras on it. They are also notorious for doing processing on device instead of the cloud. Think of TouchID and FaceID, everything is on device never sent to Apple servers.
Anybody else already kind of overwhelmed by the number of screens surrounding us at any given time? The idea of throwing up virtual screens all over my house sounds kind of horrifying to me lol
Honestly, I think a helmet would probably have more esthetic appeal and also more room for batteries, cooling etc. And less pressure directly on your face. thanks for being a tester for us all
Saw a guy with one of these in the mall today. Avoided him like the plague. If you don't pull into my (and the rest of our) reality i won't bother with you. Honestly it feels rude! Not looking a person in the eye, immersed in your own world while only acknowledging those outside when convenient.
@@hugoponders This particular specimen was in everybody's faces, trying to engage and soft forcing people to take notice. I didn't stroke his ego, he wants to treat me like an NPC to his own personal RPG game.
@@diegobarna Here in South Africa, the growing nickname is "Gatvlieg". Translated from Afrikaans it means arse fly. Two reasons: 1. The very few people here with one always wants you to take notice and they're making B-lines to anyone who just glanced at them. Forcing you to interact with them through those goggles, you have to be assertive to get rid of them. You literally have to tell them to f@$& off. 2. The design of the headset is rather reminiscent of the eyes of a housefly.
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My brother pointed out a missed opportunity for apple a long time ago. Make a heads up display that covers one eye, call it the iPatch.
Or PirateEye.
iPatch is brilliant 😂😂
So like the failed google glass?
😂
So you can remember The Silence? 😉
Gotta love little dogs living their best lives. Even if they're getting things wrong. They'll figure it out. Or not. But they'll have fun doing it.
Looked like they were getting it right 🔥
looks like the guy on top was missing the "endzone" by about 3 inches@@ontheruntonowhere
Lol
Going by the #DoggySutra we just saw, things are going to get mighty weird when they get to explore #DoggyLifestyleWithVRGlasses
"You think that is fun? Now this is how you have fun!" -The Dogs
imagine someone living in a dump, rooms all messy and cluttered, in pjs and haven't showered, they just wear these and VR the entire room, now they're living in their dream house.
I can see humanity going there. Sounds like the perfect plot for a dystopian sci fi film 🍿
That's the future... ewww.
Been done. Look for the movie "Virtual Revolution" renamed "2047: Virtual Revolution". Mid film but the subject is VR and how everyone spends their time there instead of IRL.
That’s funny because their entire screen would most likely be filled with clutters like on a desktop computer. As above so below.
Or if you could connect into their virtual space, like walking into their house and it’s just open apps lying around everywhere half finished movie sitting open with another one overlapping it. Virtual clutter
Wouldn’t they be tripping over stuff? Could be an end to endlessly buying breakable things that will end up in landfill by replacing them with virtual goods (can’t stop buying stuff, what would happen to capitalism…?)
Am I the only one who thinks about mental health worsening? When you take this thing off and it is kinda silent... and empty in your house and you feel bored and have to retrospect a little and watch your thoughts a little... feel the frustration passing through... and use a book for your recipes... that's what's keeping us sane!
Isn't that what would be in your house without the headset also? Except for longer and with a lot more boredom?
@@notreallydaedalusyeah i hope so because boredem and inrospection is healthy.
That's why people get addicted to VRChat app. People literally live their life on VRChat, as it slowly subsitutes their 'real' life. It has been an old topic in VR community
Yes, all tech like this has a potential for poor side effects. Look no further than smart phones and young peoples inability to focus or hold an intelligent in person conversation using full sentences.
I think all tech has adverse effects on mental health to some degree or another. The song "The Sound of Silence" is about the very thing you're describing-- how people become lost in a digital world and stop talking to one another. But we also forget how much tech has enabled communication. There are benefits and downsides.
"... my open casket would look like this." is the best description of Apple's Personas I have heard so far.👌
iCoffin™
I made this comment 100 likes 😆
@@fyaerwe With a cracked lid.
Wearing this thing you are dead to the world, so why not?
The psychological impact that this is going to have on people that are inside it for 6 hours a day cannot even begin to be understood
Yeah they can, look at the terminally online. That but now its everyone.
“Tax write-o…” :D Okay, that’s all I needed to know. 😂
Hilarious yet serious. I love green sleeves and Fleetwood Mac
What a great way to start it. Honest humor.
How can you write it off?
Since he bought the device, used it for his "work" (making videos)....
Also a really good accountant can write off your tooth brush if you want.
My question is why did he buy a tax write off in the 1st fiscal quarter?
WHHHHYYYY is nobody talking about the dogs!!😭🤣🤣🤣
its a completely normal life event, no need to question
Don't look, but wash that pillow later. Haha 😆
Haha, came here looking for comments on it. I actually laughed out loud for reals, def caught me off guard.
@@joshjones6072 aint no pillow bud
I came here looking for this!! 🤣
I was reading a book called Accelerando. It's a sci fi book about the rapid acceleration of technology. This book released in 2005 but the protagonist in 2010/2020 walks around with smart glasses getting a constant barrage of notifications. I found the book to be mid and DNFd it. But then a week later Apple released their thing and people started to walk around with th3 giant apple vision on their face. I was like .. guess I'm finishing Accelerando anyway
I'm a fan of Charles Stross' Accelerando. It's a weird read for sure.
Mid comment
@@conduit242 Is that you Charles?
@@psilynt1 Yeah, I think Pamela, the "conservative Dominatrix" character kinda grinded my gears. I mean at one point she even SA's the main character. Also felt like the book should have started one or two decades in the future. But it is competently written. At some points it almost reminds me of William Gibson, (It's clearly written to be cool) although the prose is nowhere near as good and the tech mumbo jumbo is actually real for the most part. In fact in parts it's quite brilliant talking about the importance of Neural Networks, rise of small drones etc things which were far before its time. It's clear that Charles Stross knows his technology
Having a giant corp scanning everything in my house sounds like a fantastic idea. I'll never lose anything!
Or you'll lose everything and... be happy?
And what about the seeing through walls part?!
Any phone these days could realistically do it if they really want to.
@@ReaderLin You can't see through walls, you can just tell where your screens in other rooms are.
@@dariustaefreeman2171 Alright thanks. But the tech to decode RF signals is out there. And becoming more accessible.
Creators always apologizing for the sound when I can barely tell the difference and it makes me wonder what I’m not hearing
I wish they would apologise for the apologies! “I recorded on a sub woofer amp low resonance wavelength while syncing with a hi amp feedback blah blah “
Don’t hear anything wrong and dunno wtf they’re on about 😂
You’re just used to hearing videos with terribly recorded sound.
The second part is REALLY rough, maybe if you don't use headphones you won't notice, but for me it's really bad, just not unwatchable bad.
The apology is FAR more annoying than the sound quality 🤷🏽♂️
As a low level creator, I never point out when my audio is clipping. No one will notice an error until I point it out, at which point, everyone will notice ;)
Just wait until everyone of those windows is playing an ad from 20 locations in your house.
As someone that cannot use the internet without adblock... from the bottom of my heart:
_F*ck that._
In terms of connection, I am a 56 year old woman, not your average vr enthusiast, but I have a quest 3 and both my kids have a quest 2. We are in three different states and regularly play games together (including Walkabout Minigolf). I am also a chronic pain patient and have found exercising in VR fun enough to distract me from the pain of exercising. But on disability I will probably never be able to afford the Apple stuff, so there’s that.
That's super cute 😊
All the best to you! I hope you find comfort from your pain :)
To be fair technology like this tends to get significantly cheaper as they try to make it more accessible even if it is apple
They should give you a massive discount (or us?) if we are disabled in any way in which it would actually help those who could really benefit from it. iunno I'm naive. lool
Heart warming. I would absolutely play some game with my parents or grandparents if I had any.
The main difference for me between vr sets and smartphones is that smartphones did what at the time only pc's could but in a more convenient way with a few more features, while vr sets do what pcs and smartphones do but in a less convenient way with mostly novelties. The only way it could be majorly adopted as a regular everyday device is if it could be reduced to the size of a pair of glasses, which not only sounds almost impossible but also the cables would definetely not go away, so for me it would be mostly a novelty.
The cables will absolutely go away at some point. That's part of why the Quest devices are so popular.
@@arthurdent9281 In a way that is as convenient or slightly less so than regular glasses?
@@Blankult Sure! The wireless part isn’t the hardest part when you are talking about a format similar to regular glasses. The lenses are the hard part.
Totally agree. It's a fun novelty sure sure, but just not something I'm going to use all the time. I kinda like not having things on my head. Even my glasses annoy me.
@@arthurdent9281 Idk, i guess we'll have to wait and see
You can go ahead and put me in the dragging, kicking, and screaming club! I saw an add where someone was learning piano on one. And I think being able to be deeply submersed in a learning experience is really a strong selling point. Deeper learning without distractions. Other than that, I don’t think I’ll ever need one for anything!
"They really hit the uncanny valley...I just look kind of embalmed."
I snorted my drink at that sir. Very funny.
and dead on
Everyone laughed at the Meta thing but these avatars look just as ridiculous. The rest seems fine though
@@paulm2206I see what you did there
Hmmm... sounds to me like Joe has committed an ACTIONABLE OFFENSE. I'd consult an attorney.
"Little baby dinosaur!" He says in absolute Texas
Ha I caught that too! The accent came through very strong all of a sudden!
I was mostly doing the DNA guy from Jurassic Park.
The "You gonna bite mah feener?" was 100% Texas though.
@joescott Oh yea I see what you mean. But that just adds more weight to my orignal comment.
Being so Texas you try for an Australian accent but the state says "We're gonna go ahead and override that..."
As a lifelong Midwesterner I had to stop myself from starting my comment with Ope.
Keep on keeping on...
What they need is another version with all the crazy wildlife from Australia.
I loved that xD
i worry that this will be too much for our society that is already inundated with advertising and algorithms at all hours of the day. I can just see the reality of a world inundated with more and more ads and its scary.
Agreed. I’ll do fine with hiking as usual. But every day reveals to me how easily controlled human beings are. Walk them to hell while wearing a a ‘swimsuit’ and they’ll walk right into it, with a VR headset on.
@@Godspeedysick people are gullible and always have been. You promise them something they want or feel like they need, and you already got them by the balls. I won't deny I am any different though, it's just human nature is unable to deal with lies and grifts
The vast majority of people think this VR stuff is a joke. This crap is for the chronic online
"Why do you people follow me?" Because you remind me of people I"m actually friends with and I enjoy your presentation style. Keep it up.
I follow him because he sometimes wears cool t shirts 🤷🏼♂️
imagine yourself perfectly decorating your living space ,living in harmony and then one day your Something Glasses brake and you realise your apartment looks like a junkie's place, with one box(read closet) for "stuff" and a neat matrace on the floor
Imagine waking up to the latest software update and all your apps have been replaced with ads
There's a sketch in that somewhere!
@@joescott A Full Monty sketch, for sure.
How about an NFC collection of real digital 3D art?
Could you Imagine getting something like that for your Vision Pro?
Asking for a relative Professional painter...
@@jonasrohrer5013 does he also paint mattreses? asking for a friend
Just the thumbnail and the caption
"I feel so connected"
had me laughing so hard.😅
Joe has some of the best thumbnails out there. It's clickbait but it's often an accurate depiction of the video so it's not clickbait.
The video titled
"...And then 1700 people died" is a good example.
You had me at the opening, Joe.
MATT! how cute you guys watch each other :3 also lmao i know your name but i thought for one second your name was " Im one undecided mother f****r"
Hehe, I saw your video as I was putting this together. Hope I didn't step on your toes. :)
@@joescott best bromance on youtube
The problem is full head tracking consumer VR headsets have been around for over 25 years, the same old problem exists on the latest iterations, most people do NOT want to wear them for many hours every day, there is simply no getting around it.
@@Battleneter I honestly think that the weight of it has to be intentional. If it didn’t get to a point of discomfort then people would instantly find ways to never have to leave it and want to live their entire lives through the thing.
Battery life and heavy shit are the only things saving us from ourselves right now lol 😄
Possible use: Quadriplegics and people will ALS disease. When my sister was alive last year we wanted to put my son's VR headset on her but her BiPAP mask (that she needed to breathe 24/7) got in the way. But this, with eye tracking, might improve quality of life for certain disabled people.
BTW this is AR not VR, said my son who's an expert in XR tech.
I think there's a use case there.
Of course if you can't use your hands that could cause an issue. They do have some accessibility options that might make it possible.
Indeed, quadriplegics are one of the use cases. I am one and I have been using my iPad using nothing but my voice. The accessibility feature Voice Control has been a godsend. I was really excited about the Apple Vision Pro and what I can do with it using the accessibility aids... that is, right until I saw a video by Brian Tong which makes a deep dive into the accessibility tab. And I was disappointed. They have not thought of alternate voice commands to replace the hand gestures. Hopefully, future versions would incorporate that and allow me to use them as well as I use my iPad currently. And not to be argumentative but the device is indeed XR since it does incorporate elements of VR especially when you are in the immersive environments or watching a movie in theatre mode. But your son is right; right now, AVP is primarily AR.
Anyone remember the film Strange days from the 90's?
It was a dystopian type movie about VR addiction. In the movie you could buy memories, ranging from homicide to secs and the reason it was so addictive is because you basically lived and felt everything that the person who originally experienced it did.This is what I think about when I ponder the connection between virtually reality headsets and neural link.
Sure we are very far away from anything resembling that but once we get there, what we will do with that possibility?
On a more realistic note, military drones and ground based platforms that can be controlled remotely but viewed in first person doesn't seem very far away.
You don't have to go to the 90s to watch that, you go and play Cyberpunk 2077, watch edgerunners and check out the CyPu universe
When we look at societies around the world it appears people are having a difficult time dealing with life as it actually exists. I wonder what adding a layer - the augmented reality - on top of an already fraught, difficult reality. Does it make life simpler? For whom? What demographic is served by these devices? What problems is it solving or attempting to? Does it extend our presence and engagement with each other and our surroundings? How? I'm a sociologist and I have many questions about the technology and its contexts and impacts.
Right, and we haven't even discussed the fragmentation of reality and choosing to live in one's own echo chamber, which is already happening due to populist politics and selective media consumption.
This kind of tech (most probably not this iteration) definitely has the potential of making life much easier in multiple scenarios, for example in anything that requires designing something with human scale in mind, be it exhibitions, buildings, events, renovations, interior design, set dressing, etc. Someone else in the comments talked about piping, that's actually a great idea, imagine having a blueprint of your house that you can see through on top of the real thing, it would prevent many accidents and make repairs easier, not to mention the fact that you could have a tutorial playing right beside you. Or imagine being at a conference or convention and having contacts in real time (ideally by willing users), or having the possibility to record and transcribe in real time what the relator is saying on stage. I could also see this being useful in medicine or other scenarios where having your hands free but still being able to quickly access information might be crucial. I mean, there are many possible uses for a layer of information added on top of reality, it's a bit like asking "what is a computer/internet useful for".
Unless you where asking about life in a broader sense, like finding meaning or something like that, but that won't be solved by any particular technological gadget so it would be a pointless - and I would say unfair - question to ask, just because it doesn't solve all of humanity's problems it doesn't mean it's without merit or applications (nor does this mean it won't create issues, just like computers, Internet and the smartphone have).
Same could be said for any technology. Had smart phones really made life better.. Did laptops and tablets make life better?
When I was young we would sit together as a family watching TV. It brought the family together with a shared experience. Now it's easy to stream anything but something is lost.
It seems technology makes life better but was life so bad without it? The years before mobile phones you would go out more, interact more in person. I think it was a better time
Ya. Isolation in society has been a growing thing since 2000. Ever since the start of smart phones.😢
As a sociologist, you'll be very much aware that the forum to answer the questions you ask does not exist. There is no "public forum", "national conversation" or other such bollocks that can't possibly exist beyond the local level. Nobody is in control of this.
I did the same thing with my Quest 2 until my nephew found it. I said he could have it, and now he is the one who never uses the thing.
In the end I only used my Quest 2 for flight sims. Now it has been at a friend's house for the past 3 months.
I would probably never buy a VR headset again. It was an interesting oddity, but once I had the experience I no longer desired it.
Eh it depends on the types of games you play.
I play a lot of flat screen games ported to VR personally and with those it improves the experience. (No Man's Sky, Skyrim, Lethal Company, Phasmophobia etc)
If you only play the big expensive AAA/AA titles then Yee you're probably wasting money on your VR headset because they're few and far between.
I've gotta be honest, the novelty is powerful but it does wear off over time. I think that's why people struggle to maintain their VR habit.
(having said that, I know some people who are real enthusiasts and never get tired of it. Different strokes, I guess)
@@joescottIt depends on if people are social or asocial.
19:05 Correct, get used to the cable. Battery life will always be the issue.
"Honey, do you know, where did I leave my fitness app?" ... "Did you put it next to the fireplace again?"
😂😂😂 the number of divorces skyrocketing haha
@@shalabazertheboltstruck8645 where did I put my incognito window?😅
I found a loophole in our health insurance that let me basically get a free Fitbit. Half my coworkers ended up jumping on it as well, since the terms were pretty generous.
I lost it like two weeks later.
I think I piled that laundry on top of it last week
I hate it when I leave my email in my fridge…
“I just look, like… embalmed” lmao 😂
That was actually the most accurate description of these ‘persona’ things I’ve seen yet because I could never quite put my finger on it, but now that’s all I’m ever going to see haha 😆🤦🏻♂️
As someone will many mental health issues, the timers for certain actions around the house seems phenomenal. I hate doing any house work because I feel like I am just waiting for laundry machines to finish or not knowing what to do next. I can imagine a life where I put on the head set with nice music and pleasant backyard so that I could focus on tidying up the house. Truly revolutionary technology for many uses but especially people who have trouble doing things around the house and focusing. Having a TH-cam video in the background but still in focus can be a hinderance for many people but that’s how I can complete tasks. I don’t know the cost but might be worth it as an investment into quality of life
The reason I follow you because you are real Joe. You are human… you make mistakes just like everyone does but you don’t hide it… you just go with it… you just look someone really cool to hang out with.. keep up the good videos.
He's real until Apple embalms him 😂
One thing I feel like is missing is having shared experiences. Like, there’s games where we can have social conversations (like Rec Room) but nothing that helps us have the optional shared experience like watching a movie together or even browsing the web. It would be nice to be able to converse with others and have those experiences together.
Described it like a undercover cultured gentleman and thought qe wouldn't notice 👀👀
Exactly. Me and my buddies resort to just hanging out in Wander. We jump around place to place around the world and use that as conversation starters. But it would be so cool if we could just come to our own immersive virtual living rooms and hang out
Discord has a watch party option in its chat rooms
I’ve been anticipating this, and have actually been working on a spatial object communication protocol for the past few years that would allow multiple goggle wearers to see and interact with the same virtual objects. Kind of like TCP/IP for AR.
Have you tried... the real world?
“Embalmed” totally nails that look! 😂😂😅
7:57 I didn't expect that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Literally laughed out loud!!!
Right to the comments to see who else........
I expected way more comments on this scene
That is THE best part!!
I wasn't sure if that was real or virtual.
To answer your question....
.... I follow you because you're humble, human and curious. We all have technical difficulties... you do great work man.
Joe you do NOT suck. You are amazing. Thank you for being transparent about any glitches in your videos. We all just want to see one each week, but realize how much work it is to make this happen! Positive self talk Joe!
It was weird. I thought it was going to be a bit with a payoff later - like, this is what using VR headsets does to your self-confidence!
Again, I love how you went about this
The way you use humor to retain perspective
Knowing the pitfalls of introducing new technologies, I feel threaded the needle pretty well
I never regret watching your stuff
☺️ Thanks for saying that.
Since my parents' generation is becoming elderly, and even late middle-age issues with mobility, I hope this gadget (or one like it) will be available for people who want to keep learning, traveling, interacting; long after the ability to walk, or see clearly, or hear clearly. I'd hope they would make a version for older people who won't be walking around much, but still want to see parts of the world they didn't get a chance to when they were healthier. Or be in the audience of a theater, opera, or rock concert (can you imagine seeing the Beatles live, in front of you?). That's my hope for this tech, anyway.
Can't wait till someone creates an holonovel, deck/Suite app.
With generative ai 3d models and backgrounds, people create 3d novels to explore and experience.
Any novel becomes a 3d world generated in real time, like a holodeck
That moment when you realize even Joe gets veritasium's Blue LED video recommended lol
TH-cam harassed me mercilessly on that one until I watched it.
While this is no doubt a cool piece of technology, my biggest question is whether we really want it to happen and become mainstream. We're already getting bombarded by hundreds of notifications a day on our phones to a point where notification fatigue is a thing. Now instead of a small vibration in your pocket, all the tiring notifications, chats, ads and tens of apps will be there in your view, all the time. Sounds kind of dystopian to me but i guess we'll see how this goes.
I can't imagine they are wearable for long periods of time though.
Exactly!
"We're already getting bombarded by hundreds of notifications a day on our phones to a point where notification fatigue is a thing." Err, nope. Got rid of my last smartphone a few years ago and don't miss having one.......:)
i mean, you can just turn notifications off? Wait for this to become cheap and nerds have developed open operating systems for it, then it's absolutely fine.
Like i recently got a google pixel of all things, which you can easily install lineageos-microg on, and then you have all the comforts of a modern phone with basically none of the drawbacks.
Donate to the open source nerds if you want the future to not be dystopian.
This. Plus advertising. You think billboard and flashing neon signs are annoying in the real world, wait until they can pop into your face
05:28- NICE use of the cloth on the scale! As JerryRigEverything pointed out, THAT black 'Glass' front cover scratches at level 2 with deeper grooves at level 3! 😏😉
😎🇬🇧
I haven't seen a lot of comments mentioning the game Heavy Rain, which released in 2010. One of the playable characters, an FBI agent named Norman Jayden, used an AR headset to solve crimes. They called it ARI - Added Reality Interface - and it looked like a beefy pair of sunglasses which required a special glove to operate via gestures.
ARI was a more capable Apple Vision Pro, only 14 years ago. They nailed the whole AR aspect as well as having the ability to dive into a fully immersive environment. My favorite ARI moment was Norman bouncing a virtual ball against a wall and catching it. I found the introduction of ARI unusual; it seemed reasonable that tech would eventually get there, but it made me wonder which decade Heavy Rain was set in.
Incidentally, ARI made Norman very sick and played a role in his death depending on your choices.
I like the idea of comparing the vision to the iphone in opening, because if the trajectory is the same, that means you should ignore it until the 4th one comes out.
Lol. It already has good military applications. The coolest ones turn opaque in less than a microsecond? Classified ; to prevent nuclear bomb flash blindness beginning in f16 fighter jet pilots
I am absolutely excited for that fourth one though. This product shows that the future is coming and not just something to imagine
@@JC012732 the future is now
@@drsbutler the military has had this tech in the F-35 for over a decade now.
Yeah, but isn't this VR thing going on for a decade now? Mobile phones were already a success when apple took the next step with the iPhone. VR has never been a success for the 3 decades it's been around.
just found ur channel abt 3-4 weeks ago, so this is the first vid of urs im viewing in "real time". aw i feel community!
What's interesting to me about augmented reality is we all know what the end game is: something that looks like traditional reading glasses. But we are so far away. Whereas with smartphones, the iPhone was truly revolutionary in providing a new control scheme. The apple vision pro provides a novel control scheme but people are wishing for a smaller form factor. I'm not sure it will make the same cultural impact
Smartphones existed for 10 years before Iphone
@@tedarcher9120Exactly. We had the technology for the iPhone, apple just decided to come up with that game changing form factor. The technology for AR glasses does not exist, only the technology to strap a phone to your face does, and that can only get so good.
They really should have put the computer into the battery brick. The future of smart-glasses is going to be much like the current smart-watches. The accessory device is simply a screen/camera with minimal processing power, the main processor is your phone/home computer. This will minimize the size and weight of the accessory, making it more acceptable to wear.
I suppose the Vision-pro can link up to your Mac and use it as an AR screen. But it still didn't need to put the processing of the vision on your head.
@@ZimaCyberia mostly fan of feature phones here - apple made touchscreen phones accessible, which is a revolution in on itself
it's not as far away as you think
It could be worse. They could be rebranding everything you see.
Imagine the Kindle Fire glasses, where you have to pay a subscription to remove ads.
That's sort of exactly why I'll never get into the augmented reality thing. Even if they're not just using it as a vector to deliver ads straight into your eyeballs from every angle _today_ - recent history suggests they'll do it _soon_ . So, no thanks.
yeah but the kindle fire glasses would probably cost $300 instead of $3500 lol
You know that IS going to happen for real, don't you?
I love the utter confusion and general disturbed feeling with that random stock footage. 😂
That robot was gonna get some
I saw the robot with the lady jamming out and thought "RUN! RUN! NOW! GO, GO, GO! WHATS WRONG WITH YOU LADY?!?!" Just like in bad horror movies! Lol! 😄
the target market is known as "beta testers."
This is the most first gen product that Apple has release since the Apple I
Like every 1st gen (& 2nd) product from anyone?
You always wait till 3rd gen b4 you splash cash 💵
Or those with more money than sense.
The target market are the youtubers.
The target market is Social Media Influencers
The thing is though, I kinda don’t want a layer on top of my reality. I applaud you for being so tech positive, but for me this feels like where I wanna draw the line.
As a person with motion sickness, 2 minutes after putting it on. I would be down for the count for at least 2 days after using for 10 minutes. It’s why my VR is collecting dust.
Vision Pro only has stationary content. Their microOLEDs do have a lot of motion blur when you look around though.
In this video: Joe needs a hug.
You are good and valid, Joe.
20:14 this made me laugh so hard - the old joe scott humor I know and love - that keeps me coming back. So relatable. I haven't laughed this hard in years from this channel.
The surprise shot of the couch had me laughing so hard. I love your videos, Scott.
how long until augmented ads start showing up, I wonder.
They’re already ready to go. Apple just has to approve their implementation.
Ads on a device that costs as much as a vison pro? That alone is enough of a reason for me to avoid it.
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And yes, I know his chances of seeing this are slim, but just in case, he or anyone else who needs it, does see it. I put it here. Hell, I needed the reminder myself, somehow it's so much easier to be kind to others and not yourself and it's such a bad habit.
I wish anyone reading this a wonderful day and many to come.
I saw nothing past the dog humping the cat, I was laughing to myself every 45 seconds and couldn't stop.
It's another dog....take your mind out of the gutter🤣 in all honesty, I went back to rewatch that part when I read your comment saying it was a cat to confirm
@@aromaticsnail ah, I stand corrected! Here's my official apology to the respective dog and cat communities for the error. But... MADE YA LOOK! 😀
Noooooo i thought it was a pillow
Nice, now we cant even escape our screens when we get up from our desk/couch and take a walk lol
"i such, i f*ck*n suck, why do you people follow me?" had me hollering quite suddenly lol its because we love your content and humor Joe, thats why :)
This reminds me of the first time encyclopedias became digital. I was mind blown that I could access all this info on a computer 😂🤓
I still prefer the feel of books.
Make it glasses sized, priced for consumers, and available to utilize multiple platforms like windows, and you've got a real game-changing product.
the whole make it glasses sized, that's been tried for more than a decade at this point. Same with the consumer price, somehow, VR/AR doesn't really get much cheaper, atleast it hasn't for a while
Just 10 more years.
And invent fusion while you're at it
And room temperature supercoductors as well
As a sci-fi writer, I absolutely love this kind of video. It is not about what the tech is right now, it is the potential it has for the future.
Definitely 😁
Yep!
In ten years, because you clicked the notification icon, Joe will walk into your living room to show you his new "video." He will sit on the couch, taking the place of the cat. After all this time the cat still thinks you want her to come over when you look towards her and start talking. Your next cat will probably be virtual. Through a mix of narration, screens, and immersion, Joe will show you his content. Afterwards he looks to you waiting for approval.
This is a solution looking for a problem😂
@@realGBx64 that's every tech product of the last 15 years
10:00 if you took pictures of your rooms downstairs and put those pictures layered overtop of the wall and went upstairs it would look like you're looking through the floor.
Just a reminder, google glass came out 10 years ago and people said all the same things about how it was the start of a new big thing.
We have a long long ways to go before "wearing a computer on your face" is a viable thing.
How long did it take to go from Computers to Computers in our pockets? The Star Trek Communicator was in the middle of the 1960's. --
We were Nokias and Motorollas were still the BEST selling phones in the early 2000's. A "long way before viable" is still a hazy glimpse into the future.
I don't entirely disagree with you, but this is Apple we're talking about. They have a way of making things 'cool' and pushing tech forward. Google, on the other hand, is notorious for starting projects and abandoning them in their infancy.
@@joelverrierTIL google is like my dad
honestly google was ahead of its time there. we didnt have the tech or the reason for it. but we're here now
Google glass felt like a cool prototype to me. Great idea that was ready to be played with and made into this functionality.
Ok, give me my wood stove and typewriter. It's too much for me. I'm forever thinking of going unplugged.
7:59 The pan here is great lmao
Here's my design tweakage brainstorm: Maybe a good middle step between these bulky, clumsy, ski visor-looking things and the ultimate goal of to miniaturize the hardware down to true eyeglass-scale might be to compress the headset down to something that would resemble a baseball hat. If smart-battery technology takes that leap forward with nanocarbons (be my guest to correct me if I'm horribly mangling the terminology), then perhaps the batteries for such a device could be scaled-down enough to be wafer-thin and fit inside the hat's bill so as to be practically non-invasive. Speaking of that bill, borrowing a design feature from some actual baseball player hats, maybe the lens(-es) could be hinged on the bill so that they could be flipped into and out of use with ease -- no fuss, no muss. Or, you could also just turn the hat backwards, and that action would tell the device to turn itself off or go to sleep, until you turn it back around to your face
and,,,remove the computer from the wearers head. Like a smart watch, The wearable should not contain the main processing unit.
You could use your Phone in your pocket to run the device. Or a dedicated brick in your pocket, or your home PC/smart-home device.
I'm sure the battery brick that's attached to the vision could have accommodated the computer without much size increase. They need to minimize the size and weight of the wearable before anyone is going to wear these around.
The glasses should only run the (screen, cameras, IMU), nothing else. For now, a wire running to your smart phone in your pocket is fine (or more powerful dedicated device). Maybe in the future it would wirelessly run form your PC/smart-home devices while you walk around house. and only need the pocket device when you take it outside.
Or make it passive....include the least silicon possible in the headset and use it tethered to a macbook and/iphone where all the required silicon for the headset are, with the benefit they can share the battery. But I guess Apple wants it to be a "computer" despite the fact that it still requires another device to work.
I think they should remove the outside screen, takes space, weights, costs, its fragileyou name it only for a gimmik. Use an led to let people know cameras are on if that is important.. now for removing the silicon would be hard due to latency of wireless connection. Smartwatch has very small dependency on latency but this is visual wearable you would feel so much the latency...
Just wear the battery, and hardware somewhere else. Only having the display/cameras on the glasses.
I would rather wear a phanny pack with some regular glasses or smaller goggles/visor then this.
They already have you wear the battery on the belt. So I see no reason why you can't have the hardware there.
I like it, but maybe make it something that fits inside a hat. That way you can change up which hat you wear that day. A ball cap is cool for guys, though I do wear ball caps frequently, most women wanting to be fashionable, don't. You could put it in a sun hat or whatever. Or maybe make the unit stylish in other ways if we can't have a dedicated pair of regular looking glasses. Honestly we're probably not there yet either. Our present isn't sci-fi enough to be wearing technological crowns as fashion.
Hello Joe and greetings from Down-Under.
You need to look at how Soldiers set up their Night Vision Goggles (NVG).
For the most part, they are attached to the front of a helmet by a mounting arm that allows them to be adjusted to fit the individual wearer, then attached to back of the helmet is a pouch which contains the Counter Weight which is usually about ½ a dozen or so separate metal weights so the correct balance can be achieved, further to this, many of these systems also utilise an external Battery Pack, which again is generally mounted on the back of the helmet, and is connected to the NVG unit via a power cable.
For those not needing a helmet, there are various "Skull Crusher" caps, basically a fabric mesh skull cap to which is incorporated an adjustable head band with mounting points similar to those used on helmets, to which all of the aforementioned NVG hardware is attached.
It may seem counter intuitive to add weight, but by balancing the set-up, it provides a measure of comfort to the user.
In conclusion, here you have the answers to making these new fangled contraptions nicer to use.
Congratulations if you made it this far!
Joe doesn't need to look. The companies making the HMD's need to look. Instead they are trying to reinvent the wheel, all of them, on their own.
Yeh, my sense of touch is so overdeveloped because of these headsets. I cannot believe how my sense of smell has also reached a new level not to mention my heightened sense of taste. My ability to react to unpredictable situations has also increased. Yeh, these headphones are definitely the answer to enjoying a full, happy and complete life. Oh..and my social interaction with strangers is off the charts. The biggest benefit is when I take them off and I have a renewed sense of isolationism and loneliness. I couldn’t be more complete.
Couldn’t agree more.
When the price drops below a thousand, i'll give this a chance. 3500 is INSANE.
Remember this is the ‘Pro’.
No doubt an ‘Air’, standard & ‘Ultra’ will be coming in the future.
$3500 is insane. Here in sweden I saw a used one for $5500...
That's what Apple does. They overcharge and over hype MILDLY interesting and SLIGHTLY innovative products as though they're the holy grail.
@@jbmp1390 the mac pro wheels for $700 is Balenciaga level stupid-tax
Insane inexpensive . The f16 military versions were in the $millions .
Honestly the sound issues make it better it sounds like one of those old infomercials
The version that WIll on Startrek TNG used that was 'addictive', is the version that we really want to!
All these VR glasses need to be not just inexpensive but a killer app. I have no clue what it will be, but it will be a 'must have' for life in the future.
the tech side will have to come first with downsizing this heavy monster mask
The 'killer app' might need to come with other attachments to strap around your waist area 🙈
Get me a Matrix plug in the back of my head. Won't need the glasses.
"Whoa, I can cook a casserole!" -Neo
“Whoa, I know Fondue”
"Whoa, I have a girlfriend"
@@andymouse I could finally download some game.
Literally the best review I have seen of the Vision Pro (and I have actually watched several others, I promise). You made clear all of the things the others lacked. Also, it's exactly what I expected, but you were the only one to clarify it. Keep up the good work, sir.
Had to buy a couch the other day and while waiting for the salesperson I sat in one of those huge, electric massage chairs. Full body massage, feet to the top of my head, with heating and cooling. I imagine that's where we'll all end up eventually, in the massage chair with the VR headset on. The only movement necessary will be extracting an arm from the massage sleeve to bring the beer to your mouth.
Why am I envisioning a room full of massage chairs, each occupied by someone wearing a VR headset, and a beer manifold running along the ceiling? Each chair has its own beer feedline from the manifold. Every now and then a pump feeds each person a metered quantity of beer. No effort or movement needed, save for swallowing.
@@johnopalko5223 if that is the new office job I'm all for it :)
Wall-E will clean up your mess...
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand... that's the last generation of humans.
Wall-E 😂
Honestly the feeling of disconnection doesn't surprise me. If you pay attention to a lot of marketing that highlights new/high tech features, it almost always boils down to the removal of a certain experience for convenience.
Obviously the fact that it's a vr headset means it should be more focused on adding experiences, but it still sounds like a decent portion of it's features revolve around isolating and controlling the end user's surroundings.
joe your way of making videos makes me coming back, just the way you explain without a filter. i hope you give us an update when the devices and apps improve. love your work keep it up man 😄
I want something like this but not for entertainment. I want an app that detects motion when driving so you can see that sneaky pedestrian walking behind a vehicle, or a car that starts inching out of a drive way you may not notice yet. Maybe it detects debris on the road, or can even analyze reflections and tell the difference between water and ice? You could even have one where it has cameras in the back too so if you're walking home at night it could warn you if someone is about to mug or rob you.
I now want this, too.😮😂
Sounds like you want the Iron Man helmet. Unless Joe is playing the getting ouf of the car and walking around town as a gag, actually my first thought is "When will they adjust the driving laws to class these as distractions like cell phones?" "Hands free" won't be the defining rule to wether you can use this while driving. This is like having a driver able to see a TV while driving.
@@cynvision I'm sure even if the wording of the laws doesn't explicitly cover these, any sane cop would stop someone doing that, and any sane judge would back up that charge. HOPEFULLY. lol
I’ve thought of that actually around a decade or slightly more ago when I was a young teen. My idea is an actual smart glass windshield, instead of just something you must wear, say smart glasses or a VR headset; whereas the windshield on the car itself is actually the screen (2 way view so you could still see out of it like normal glass. Essentially, it would work like an advanced H.U.D. for driving/traveling with obvious safety features and restrictions. It would provide road conditions, directions, temperature, a compass, GPS based location, etc. And most importantly to your comment; it would use advanced A.I. to highlight (with differently colored outlines for example or target boxes/rectangles similar to a digital camera or video camera) other vehicles traveling on the road with you, pedestrians, parked cars, etc. and possible threats/possible dangers to your vehicle with chimed or blinking alerts or even automated avoidance emergency maneuvers. How cool would this be?!
I just leased a 2023 Subaru Ascent, and it and many other new vehicles have a version of this. It's not in the form of video, but in the form of lights or beeps.
As a person who only uses my computer for photoshop, text documents, youtube videos, and to google cooking stuff, and never have enough screen space, this is 100% useful to me. I don't care about gaming. My issue however- and this is a big one, I don't have the money for something like this and no interest in wearing a brick on my face. I hope that the cost and wearability are what come down in the future.
Just get a few extra monitors. It really helps. Just having a second monitor I got from the thrift store for $30 has made it so much easier for me to multitask on the computer when I need to have multiple things open to look back and fourth between them.
I like the idea of the cooking assistance, having the recipe float around with me while my hands are engaged and being able to listen to something like a podcast while I'm doing that. And the timers over the food looked pretty cool. But yeah, no one is buying any hardware to help them with cooking, even when they are fairly A.D.D.
Do we really need to be surrounded by screens and apps 24/7 no matter where we go?
Yea to be honest I’m getting sick of the internet.Cookies,ads,pop ups and error messages constantly.
Two factor authentication bullshit with codes and shit for my local garden centre now 😮
Might go back to books and radio….. next week 😂
@@Gos1234567 We have brains and societies optimized what? 10,000 years ago? This is not what we were designed to do/be.
1.I can see useful applications like "Learn Guitar" successfully developed for the Vision Pro.
2. When I was 5 my family visited Expo 67 in Montreal, I watch videos of Expo 67 on TH-cam and it will bring back vivid memories I have of when I was a child. Eventually I can see a virtual visit to Expo 67 that would give you a spacial experience of the Montreal 67 Expo or say, being at your favorite Grateful Dead concert. Not only would it be entertaining but it could also be used as a memory tool - it could be used to as a Synaptic Plasticity tool for depression and anxiety the way ketamin is being used.
Apple Vision Pro combined with the failed technology of the old google glass smart-glasses would be revolutionary
I wish Microsoft stuck with the HoloLens, they had this tech years ago
Yup. 💯
HoloLens is still available but is being targeted at Profesional uses. For example, to be used to allow "experts" to help troubleshooting complex industrial or scientific equipment remotely. The idea being a local technician could wear the HoloLens and the "experts" would see what they see and be able to bring up relevant technical information directly in the field of view of the technician. In a simpler implementation, a technician could see an overlay on top of some equipment that would highlight parts or show the next step in a procedure (say, point out which screw to undo or when putting things back together, it would show the torque setting of a bolt). I got to try one briefly, with just the bare OS running and it looked very similar to the Apple product. Without an application running, I just saw the configuration panel (pretty much Windows 11) floating in a fixed spot in front of me.
@@dwegmull I know all about it, been following it since it's inception. I just wished they stuck with the original plan of eventually bringing it to the retail market.
MS is always ahead of the curve, then out of nowhere abandon support
Just like Microsofts PDAs and XDAs before the iPhone. They made smart phones before apple. But they were cool, before their time, and had some big compromises.
Hololens field of view is awful. Projection AR is better conceptually, as get to just see really world. but it's incredibly hard to improve it. The virtual items are always going to be translucent, its never going to be able to do decent VR mode, Passthrough AR atleast for foreseeable future going to be the practical AR choice.
Not just Microsoft....it's just the Holo Lens like the other more advanced headsets were meant for businesses/defense bc they were very expensive to be a consumer product. Meta and Apple are just trying to make a headset that can be bought at stores.
Synth Riders is an existing VR game that's been on Quest for years. It's actually awesome with actual controllers.
11:40 this bit was so relatable it prompted me to like the video
Your editors do great work btw so an occasional audio glitch isn't a big deal.
the dog humping the pillow was a good comedy bonus
edit. ok it wasnt a pillow. uugh.
That was not a pillow 😭
That.... Was another dog 😂
oh geepers. yeah it was infact another dog. i didnt want to look that closely. lol
Regarding weight... I have an original Vive. It was *very* uncomfortable to wear for more than 20 minutes or so. Specifically the sinus pressure was unbearable. The fix was to actually *add* weight. Specifically about a 6" bar of steel (wrapped in neoprene) to the back of the headset. The counterweight makes it *much* more comfortable for long term use. The very fact that I was able to buy the thing on Amazon (half a decade ago!) meant that it was an issue that needed to be fixed.
In my experience, weight distribution is far more important than overall weight. YMMV of course.
It could help you find your keys.
I thought about this before: hook an AI to a camera and teach it to remember where things were the last time you saw them. Then you ask "Where are my keys?" The AI would point to the last seen location. Could also help with distinguishing whose are things in a common household with a big family (7+ people, like us) and where things belong (sorting dishes from the dishwasher).
These are essentially simple tasks. I believe AI handling will be a norm in the future.
I studied AI at uni.
It's still normal to mock people with phones glued on hand and will be normal to mock people with this eyesore trying to look normal outside.
I will not talk to someone wearing this. Take off the scuba gear first.
Someone will come up with an app that will make them invisible to anyone with one of these on and walking around. That will be Fun!
@@zorktxandnand3774 "I will not talk to someone on their phone." Lots of people are doing that, even if you aren't, so be prepared for this probable inevitability, if in or closer to the form of smart glasses.
You mean chronic neck pain and eyesore
Eh. If people want to use it, they should use it. Performative mockery is tedious, and very middle school. Headset users shouldn't (and probably won't) care about it.
It seems to me it should be perfectly possible to enter your prescription into the VR glasses and have it make the necessary correction automatically, without you needing to buy extra clip-in lenses. Once that happens, I presume it could also adjust for near or distance vision, which might be a big selling point for those of us over 50. (My eye doctor tells me that's about when all of us lose auto-focus.)
That's creepy that they have spatial space memory.. that means they got all the data wherever you use it.. They remember where or what inside your private space..
Yeah but Apple has a good privacy track record, that's why you're not hearing stuff about the crazy amount of cameras on it. They are also notorious for doing processing on device instead of the cloud. Think of TouchID and FaceID, everything is on device never sent to Apple servers.
"Yew gon bite mah finger?"
I just want to compliment the editor on the jump cut at 17:39. That was chef's kiss for me!
Anybody else already kind of overwhelmed by the number of screens surrounding us at any given time? The idea of throwing up virtual screens all over my house sounds kind of horrifying to me lol
Honestly, I think a helmet would probably have more esthetic appeal and also more room for batteries, cooling etc. And less pressure directly on your face. thanks for being a tester for us all
I follow you because there is so much comfort in seeing people I look up to suck every now and then too.
Big luv from Norway Joe!
Saw a guy with one of these in the mall today.
Avoided him like the plague. If you don't pull into my (and the rest of our) reality i won't bother with you.
Honestly it feels rude! Not looking a person in the eye, immersed in your own world while only acknowledging those outside when convenient.
We are already calling them GlassHoles or VisionBros, depending on everyone's politeness.
I somehow don't think you were likely to engage with them, anyway?
@@hugoponders This particular specimen was in everybody's faces, trying to engage and soft forcing people to take notice. I didn't stroke his ego, he wants to treat me like an NPC to his own personal RPG game.
@@diegobarna Here in South Africa, the growing nickname is "Gatvlieg". Translated from Afrikaans it means arse fly. Two reasons:
1. The very few people here with one always wants you to take notice and they're making B-lines to anyone who just glanced at them. Forcing you to interact with them through those goggles, you have to be assertive to get rid of them. You literally have to tell them to f@$& off.
2. The design of the headset is rather reminiscent of the eyes of a housefly.